‘Barbie’ Was Not Snubbed…

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3 ай бұрын

barbie, you’ve had kenough.
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@danderson8431
@danderson8431 3 ай бұрын
The fact that America had to release a statement in support of Margot, while Margot did NOT release a statement in celebration of America is telling. The fact that America’s nomination is barely mentioned despite her being in The Barbie Movie is even more telling. The fact that the fans of The Barbie Movie hasn’t celebrated America’s nomination despite claiming to love that movie is most telling of all.
@tylerhackner9731
@tylerhackner9731 3 ай бұрын
Very true
@foreverantistudio
@foreverantistudio 3 ай бұрын
Yup giving they wanted a white girl to be nominated which isn’t the point of the Barbie movie at all
@MoMo-rx4zr
@MoMo-rx4zr 3 ай бұрын
@@foreverantistudiolet’s be honest, it is the point of the barbie movie. The lack of intersectional feminism in barbie and the idea that poc women and white women suffer the same struggle is telling
@foreverantistudio
@foreverantistudio 3 ай бұрын
@@MoMo-rx4zr and let’s be honest there were POC women in that movie if you wanted them to talk about intersectional feminism this movie isn’t it Barbie was a feminism 101 not deeper level stuff learn the difference once you realize that then you’ll know that it isn’t the point of the movie
@infamous0113
@infamous0113 3 ай бұрын
That's not true at all. Margot really cares about America. You would know this if you've seen interviews of Margot excited for America. She presented her the SeeHer award and brought America to tears with her speech. Y'all just want to paint Margot in a bad light. She's gonna be at those Oscars supporting America And Ryan.
@monovatherealest
@monovatherealest 3 ай бұрын
Hilary Clinton coming out to make a statement about BARBIE of all things is genuinely on point for American politicians 👍🏾 I can't bring myself to tell her to 'go to hell' bc i fear we're already there 😭
@Capturedbeauty777
@Capturedbeauty777 3 ай бұрын
Lol 😅
@SarahG-vz3ki
@SarahG-vz3ki 3 ай бұрын
Didn’t she give Pete Davidson head
@tylerhackner9731
@tylerhackner9731 3 ай бұрын
Who the hell wanted to hear anything she said lol especially when women are suffering in Gaza, and she’s supporting Israel
@cocolove9916
@cocolove9916 3 ай бұрын
that was just cringe
@angelinaoliver5587
@angelinaoliver5587 3 ай бұрын
Dang 😂😂😂
@gleek6446
@gleek6446 3 ай бұрын
People saying Margot not being nominated is misogyny when she lost against other women ?? This pity party for a white woman overshadowing the nomination of women of color also doesn't sit right with me like why is Hilary Clinton even talking about it ?
@chrissis1944
@chrissis1944 3 ай бұрын
The white feminist came out of the woods to defend their icons. I’m not surprised and it’s sad !
@PeterGriffin11
@PeterGriffin11 3 ай бұрын
Throwing pity parties for anyone that isn't a white heterosexual man is pretty much the standard for Hollywood and politics in America now. That being said you'd think the people or I guess feminists who liked the Barbie movie would be happy that a woman of color got nominated sense their the most oppressed group according to them.
@Olivia-bl8ez
@Olivia-bl8ez 3 ай бұрын
Right? Like Ryan didn’t get nominated over Margot. It was a different category. Also I’m impressed by Margot’s involvement in Barbie. But as far as acting goes, Ken was a more complex character and Ryan Gosling did stand out.
@danielbuddenmusic1502
@danielbuddenmusic1502 3 ай бұрын
Oh f**k off. You start off making a good point, but then you have to be radical in another way. It has nothing to do with race.
@marniekilbourne608
@marniekilbourne608 3 ай бұрын
Well, Barbie has always been white so they had to cast a blonde white woman. I also don't think her performance was Oscar worthy.
@reannagordon
@reannagordon 3 ай бұрын
That speech America gave about being a woman in the movie and the way she delivered it, is when I knew she likely had a shot at getting nominated for supporting actress. The Academy loves those types of performances and dialogue.
@niabelizaire3596
@niabelizaire3596 3 ай бұрын
Don’t get me wrong, the monologue was beautiful and America did a good job but in my opinion (and I’m not just saying this because I’m a Barbie fan), I feel like Margot and Greta should’ve been nominated for an Oscar. And Ryan was good too, but it would’ve made more sense if both Margot and Greta were nominated for an Academy Award.
@reannagordon
@reannagordon 3 ай бұрын
@@niabelizaire3596 the competition was steep
@tylerhackner9731
@tylerhackner9731 3 ай бұрын
It was a good monologue tbf
@Hannah-nm6bn
@Hannah-nm6bn 3 ай бұрын
It was the only interesting scene to me.
@kingkiller5325
@kingkiller5325 3 ай бұрын
​@@niabelizaire3596Margot Robbie probably could have and should have gotten a Nomination over Annette Benning from Nyad. But Greta Gerwig did not have much of a chance. The competition was very tough this year. Honestly if you say Greta Gerwig should have been nominated then you also have to say which other movie which was nominated should have been snubbed. Because Honestly of the movies that are nominated for Best Director I can't imagine a single one that's less deserving than Barbie.
@icedoatmilklatte910
@icedoatmilklatte910 3 ай бұрын
I agree with you. Barbie was fun but I wouldn’t say it was Oscar-worthy. Also Margot and Greta still got nominations! All this outrage is ridiculous
@lexis4490
@lexis4490 3 ай бұрын
But are the other actress nominations worthy? Are the other director nominations worthy? That's the question. People are saying well Barbie didn't deserve like the other directors and actresses did. Barbie still got Best Picture guys.
@krisj827
@krisj827 3 ай бұрын
I agree
@icedoatmilklatte910
@icedoatmilklatte910 3 ай бұрын
@@lexis4490 I have seen them and yes they are. Like Honest said, the actresses and directors that were nominated were simply better than Greta and Margot. And if you really believe they were “snubbed” who would you replace in favor of them? Because there are other actresses that gave better performances than Margot that were “snubbed” (i.e., Fantasia in The Color Purple or Greta Lee in Past Lives).
@MoMo-rx4zr
@MoMo-rx4zr 3 ай бұрын
@@lexis4490 did you actually watch the other nomination because the answer is yes. The other nominations are even better directorial films and performances.
@chay2033
@chay2033 3 ай бұрын
To me the fact that this move got not 1 not 2 not 4 not 7 but 8 , HEIGHT Oscar nominations and some ppl still found a way to complain is baffling to me . Imo Barbie isn’t even an Oscar worthy movie except for the costumes and decor . This movie is nothing more than a regular summer blockbuster movie . It’s like saying that avengers endgame got snobbed . That’s ridiculous. I can’t imagine how all those people will act after the ceremony …because imo Barbie will most likely get the same treatment it got at the Golden Globes . I think Barbie will get nothing more than one or two statuette here and there that nobody will remember of , while openheinmer will absolutely grab every if not many of the most prestigious prices .
@kylewilliamson5672
@kylewilliamson5672 3 ай бұрын
Barbie's story wasn't the same quality as the other nominations. It was the most popular movie, sure, but that's all. It also had incredible sets, costumes and performances, alongside the creativity for filmmaking that has been missing in Hollywood.
@briannalee1998
@briannalee1998 3 ай бұрын
Exactly
@madebyCharlene
@madebyCharlene 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@MichellaneousMe
@MichellaneousMe 3 ай бұрын
From the interviews I have watched it seemed like Margot wasn’t even trying to campaign for the actress category. The way she expressed herself about her role in producing the Barbie movie it was pretty clear she was campaigning for the producer nomination. Tbh I’m a little disappointed Celine Song, Greta Lee, Justine Triet and Charles Melton got snubbed.
@gleewhoseline198
@gleewhoseline198 3 ай бұрын
Hey just so you know Justine Tried did get nominated for directing. So one victory at least lol
@user-zw2hn9eu1l
@user-zw2hn9eu1l 3 ай бұрын
I agree. As talented as Margot Robbie is, I don’t think she cares that much if she was nominated or not. I don’t think that’s why she took on the role. She liked the idea of the movie, she wanted to work with Greta and she liked the script.
@the-berries-and-cream-dude
@the-berries-and-cream-dude 3 ай бұрын
the fact that Barbie was even nominated was the real surprise, blockbuster movies RARELY get nominated for the Oscars
@4deleDaz33m
@4deleDaz33m 3 ай бұрын
Directors like Greta Gerwig, Denis Villeneuve, James Cameron, Christopher Nolan are somewhat Academy favourites for a nomination. If they make a blockbuster movie, whatever it is, their movies will likely be nominated for their artistic vision
@kingbacon6563
@kingbacon6563 3 ай бұрын
I think the funniest part is how neither Margot nor Greta have said anything (likely because they don't care). Barbie was really fun, and certainly one of my favorite movies of the year, but it is neither of their best works. Margot Robbie also got a nominee as a producer for the film and I think that's probably way bigger for her. We got the first ever Native American woman nominated for best actress, that's a far bigger win the cultural landscape.
@Yoest.1
@Yoest.1 3 ай бұрын
Exactly! All this outrage is just so embarrassing and people are just forcing themselves to get upset about it
@Pink_pr1ncess
@Pink_pr1ncess 3 ай бұрын
@@Yoest.1white women victimizing themselves as usual 🙄 what’s knew?
@samash7302
@samash7302 3 ай бұрын
You know what was the bigger snub? Jack Black’s “Peaches” didn’t get a nomination for Best Original Song 😭 That song slapped!
@jeanetteramirez3292
@jeanetteramirez3292 3 ай бұрын
btw Yalitza Aparicio is the first indigenous woman to receive a best actress nomination. I, Tonya was def Margot’s win imo
@shaina8947
@shaina8947 3 ай бұрын
true, i think lily was the first indigenous woman from the US though
@slayingmorin3171
@slayingmorin3171 3 ай бұрын
@@shaina8947true but it’s annoying how people who exclude mid and south america :/
@shaina8947
@shaina8947 3 ай бұрын
@@slayingmorin3171 i agree lol
@susanafuentes8673
@susanafuentes8673 3 ай бұрын
​@@slayingmorin3171 Mexico is part of North America 😅
@slayingmorin3171
@slayingmorin3171 3 ай бұрын
@@susanafuentes8673 I’m aware lol I was just trying to say Mexico and Central American countries
@sreehari3389
@sreehari3389 3 ай бұрын
People really still think that a movie getting a billion dollars means it's the best of the year that's like saying Avengers Endgame should've gotten an Oscar for Best Picture
@crystalsnow1138
@crystalsnow1138 3 ай бұрын
Yep, didn't people use that same argument when Black Panther was nominated for Best Picture?
@friedchicken4735
@friedchicken4735 3 ай бұрын
Smooth brains are offended no one cares it wasn't nominated congrats to the people who got nominated
@user-st7yp6ix2s
@user-st7yp6ix2s 3 ай бұрын
i dont think yall understand coming from an actual female why were mad bc im not like a crazy feminist and i dont think barbie was the greatest movie ever made, i can recognize that there were others who also deserved it like oppenheimer but this movie was all about how hard it is to be a women. then its this whole situation + the golden globes sexist , im just ken winning against what was i made for, and alot of other things just in the 6 months this movie has been out
@user-st7yp6ix2s
@user-st7yp6ix2s 3 ай бұрын
@@friedchicken4735 plus it was nominated for other stuff so idk what youre talking abt
@kingkiller5325
@kingkiller5325 3 ай бұрын
​@@user-st7yp6ix2sJust because a movie is about How hard it is to be a woman doesn't mean every single woman from the film have to be nominated. Even though 3 woman from the film were indeed nominated. I'm just Ken only won the Critics Choice Award. It probably won't win the Oscar. And even then I'm just Ken only won the award because of it's sheer cultural impact which is undeniable.
@--Paws--
@--Paws-- 3 ай бұрын
I amazed not many talked about Ferrera's nomination.
@justjoannak
@justjoannak 3 ай бұрын
This I agree with tbh
@DrT0705
@DrT0705 3 ай бұрын
White feminists showing their true colours...
@4deleDaz33m
@4deleDaz33m 3 ай бұрын
Most people talked about it on Twitter. Some were dissapointed that Ferrera got nominated over a better ones like Julianne Moore in May December, Rosamund Pike in Saltburn or Rachel McAdams in Are You There God It's Me Margaret
@Allgloss312
@Allgloss312 3 ай бұрын
@@4deleDaz33mall this discourse just seems like hot air. The grammys gonna grammy and the oscars are gonna oscar. There really isnt a consistent framework to determine who gets nominated and who wins, and thus everyone is going to have opinion on who should or shouldnt have got some award, but i like i said the academy is gonna do what the academy does either way and so all this arguing over who deserved what seems so meaningless because its not gonna keep peoples fave from getting snubbed next year. I mean have your feelings but i feel people get way too lost in the sauce of the grammy and oscars discourse.
@Mtv20O1
@Mtv20O1 3 ай бұрын
Barbie was a great introduction to basic feminism, it was feminism 101. But, if we're being honest it was not as revolutionary as people make it out to be. It didn't add anything new to the table that has not already been discussed. I think if you're young or you have no prior knowledge about feminism then this is a good movie to help you understand it. Other than that, Margot’s performance doesn't compare to other actresses this year. I do have to say though that I do think Greta was snubbed for best director. Also, it's crazy how their co-stars have to essentially “apologize” for even being nominated. We have a woman of color making a statement about it in her post instead of just being thrilled about being nominated. Margot wanted to be seen as a producer and she was nominated just for that which is what she wanted. Edit: I'm seeing more discussion surrounding this topic and it's crazy how many people have been overshadowing America’s nomination simply because Margot didn't get nominated. If you were truly a fan of this movie you would also be thrilled she got nominated yet it's crickets because everyone is so preoccupied with being upset Margot didn't get nominated (even though she did in other categories). If we are being honest, Barbie really only showed one depiction of feminism. The reality of the matter is that women of color and white women don't share the same struggles.
@dropletsonbardi
@dropletsonbardi 3 ай бұрын
This!!!
@chitrinitandon8353
@chitrinitandon8353 3 ай бұрын
100% agree
@tylerhackner9731
@tylerhackner9731 3 ай бұрын
💯
@cocolove9916
@cocolove9916 3 ай бұрын
exactly..
@potato_salad_sandwhiches
@potato_salad_sandwhiches 3 ай бұрын
I’ve been trying to say this but scared this would go over people heads😭 when I watched I wasn’t shocked as others bc it was a redundant message like yes we know this. The end scene did make me cry, but the plot and message was definitely predictable considering it was directed by Greta gerwig.
@Barbinheimer-ke6fl
@Barbinheimer-ke6fl 3 ай бұрын
Melissa McCarthy got a nomination for Bridesmaids. No one else did, and really her performance was the one that stood out and took a lot of guts and talent to pull off. Also, Tom Hiddleston in the Thor movies has been widely praised for his performance in those movies. This is NOTHING against Margot, Kristen, or Chris because they are all incredible and committed performers but sometimes an actor really hits in out of the park in the project. As much as I loved the movie Barbie, Ryan really made the movie extra special because you could have easily hated “Ken” and think he’s a stalky loser, but there was this childishness that you still wanted to see him have a win somewhere. He wasn’t malicious, he was a forgotten toy that had only one job, being in love in with Barbie, and he failed at the assignment since she didn’t love him, and she never had to because she had to. I’m actually glad Barbie didn’t fall for him at the end since the story would have lost something.
@TheBabyGemz
@TheBabyGemz 3 ай бұрын
I agree. Me, too. I am kind of glad that she didn’t fall for him in the end, as well. With that being said, I would like to add another example to your point: Jennifer Hudson (who is NOW AN EGOT) got an Oscar nomination for her performance of her role in DreamGirls. She was basically THE ONLY ONE besides Eddie to get nominated and THE ONLY ONE TO WIN!!! The crazy thing is: She wasn’t the one that was even mentioned nor promoted in the initial promotional trailers like how her cast mates such as Jamie Fox or Eddie Murphy or Beyoncé were but in the end of the movie both audiences and critics were invested or interested in her. There was NO DENYING THAT THEY WERE DRAWN TO HER - due to her compelling performance.
@jazzyjaz9108
@jazzyjaz9108 3 ай бұрын
What are you talking about lol Chris overshadows Tom to me.
@ECKohns
@ECKohns 3 ай бұрын
@@TheBabyGemzJennifer Hudson being nominated for best supporting actress instead of best lead actress was ridiculous as she was clearly the main character in that movie.
@TheBabyGemz
@TheBabyGemz 3 ай бұрын
@@ECKohns That was a difficult situation because people forget that Beyoncé and Anika were present. Beyoncé in particular was supposed to be the breakout star of the film anyway. So…. 👀😬
@dontrelate465
@dontrelate465 3 ай бұрын
@@TheBabyGemzwell Beyoncé can’t act. This is common knowledge.
@MichellaneousMe
@MichellaneousMe 3 ай бұрын
Hillary’s post took years off my lifespan. What a terrible time to be literate
@IsaacNormanProductionz
@IsaacNormanProductionz 3 ай бұрын
I have to agree 100% on this. Barbie was good but we have to stop acting Barbie was some sort of American masterpiece, most of the movies on that got nominations were just better, plus Barbie has enough noms.
@latinoburger123
@latinoburger123 3 ай бұрын
Barbie seems to have collapsed under its own hubris; it TOLD everyone how great & groundbreaking it was
@Allgloss312
@Allgloss312 3 ай бұрын
Oh my god this was articulated so perfectly!!! This exactly!!! And this is coming from someone who really liked the movie.
@lyramusica4485
@lyramusica4485 3 ай бұрын
Happy to see someone agrees with me. I'm a woman and I believe that a lot of the online discourse regarding this situation has been overblown. Yes, Barbie was a cultural phenomenon but there were far better films that came out this year, and it had stiff competition. Margot's performance as Tonya Harding was far superior as well imo. Also, I think Ryan Gosling's nod was deserved. He definitely gave the best performance of the film out of all the actors (men or women) imo. Lol. That Hillary Clinton post made me cringe 😂
@niabelizaire3596
@niabelizaire3596 3 ай бұрын
There are better movies than Barbie and I've never seen I, Tonya. I wanna watch it tho!
@teriverse
@teriverse 3 ай бұрын
Margot slayed as Tonya in "I, Tonya" !!!
@angelaalfaro6905
@angelaalfaro6905 3 ай бұрын
It’s ironic because initial reactions to Gosling being casted as Ken was met with people not believing he would play a good Ken, yet he, again, ironically was a lot of the audience’s favorite part in the whole film. It’s not surprising he would be nominated given how well he acted and how well received it was.
@chrissis1944
@chrissis1944 3 ай бұрын
Barbie was a good movie but not oscar-worthy in my opinion. Also the way white women were outraged at Margot Robbie and Gerta Gerwig not being nominated but having no acknowledgement for the POC/Black women who were nominated (America Ferrera, Lily Gladstone,….) and the ones who win at the Emmy for example (Ayo Edebiri, Ali Wong, Niecy Nash, Storm Reid) is INSANE to me. It was an amazing year for all women. But I guess when a women of color wins they see this as a win for their community not for all women.
@ifyouwantoreplyjustclickth5063
@ifyouwantoreplyjustclickth5063 25 күн бұрын
This is y i cant get on board with identifying as a feminist. No matter what i do, i will always been seen as my race first, far beyond being a woman. I will never be able to relate to white women or have their support or even support from other non black females.if u look at the audience of most non white females, its usually the women of their own race, but white womwn get support from everyone. But white women go HARD on cheering for other white women where as woc are quick to tear each other down. If u notice, never see woc fangirling over women in their own race unless shes someone that is mainstream (rihanna, zendaya, jenna ortega, selena gomez). I never see non mixed woc being celebrated and fangirled over by white girls
@ahmarindungu9010
@ahmarindungu9010 3 ай бұрын
The pink honest is cute 💖
@brielle0808
@brielle0808 3 ай бұрын
I know this is off topic, but Lily Gladstone deserves that Oscar. When she let out that cry at the bottom of the stairs, it was heart wrenching. She embodied her role as Mollie. I was and still am amazed on how good her acting was. She was definitely the highlight of the film. People may say Robert DeNiro’s acting was the highlight, but for me Lily stole the show. For those who haven’t watched Killers of the Flower Moon, I recommend you watch. It’s a long runtime, but it’s a movie that makes you want to research more about the events that were written about in the book that inspired the movie.
@cashewdepressed
@cashewdepressed 3 ай бұрын
I think the whole "women vs. men grrrrr!" thing needs to be put aside to consider OTHER factors in play here. There are some people who take the "I hate men" narrative too far and apply it to every little thing. People arguing for the "snubbed" side also pointed out the "irony" of sexism and painting Ken/men as the villain. I think he is an antagonist to some extent, but the movie was to teach us how society's expectations are harmful to EVERYONE. Ken's song was about toxic masculinity. For some people to say" Ken was insignificant! His song didn't mean anything! He was supposed to be Barbie's accessory!" just further proves how a lot of misguided people saw the Barbie movie as an excuse to pit women and men further from each other instead of bringing that gap closer.
@coraliecadet90
@coraliecadet90 3 ай бұрын
It’s sad how Hollywood now thinks basic blockbusters movies equates to automatic Oscar nominations which is weird .. if anything the only thing they should have been nominated for is production design that’s it
@MoMo-rx4zr
@MoMo-rx4zr 3 ай бұрын
i think that’s the opposite of what they think, but this backlash proves why they do it. it got 8 oscar nominations and that still wasn’t enough for the masses
@goldenrod444
@goldenrod444 3 ай бұрын
Lily Gladstone got Best Actress nomination and Leonardo DiCaprio did not get nominated for Best Actor for KOTFM... Is that "sexist"?
@Inthem0mentt
@Inthem0mentt 3 ай бұрын
Cause his overacting is not it, no way he'd get nominated
@sabrachael
@sabrachael 3 ай бұрын
I was nervous to say this but yeah, I LOVED Barbie and had a great time watching the film but I don't know if it was anything groundbreaking or new besides being related to the Barbie doll franchise. It was a fun movie though and had a lot of notable moments like America's speech (I am happy she was nominated for her performance!), the Ken song LOL, and the scene with Barbie and the founder (so beautifulll). But I think it was a competitive year for movies and I don't know if I would call Barbie a cinematic masterpiece. Also, I agree that it does seem like people are forgetting women like America F and Lily G were nominated... And of course, a movie doesn't need an Oscar nomination chosen by a subjective panel to be considered a good movie.
@cakt1991
@cakt1991 3 ай бұрын
I think there’s a difference between a general snub and the Oppression Olympics that’s being pulled here. I think Greta and Margot did great jobs in the directing and acting categories respectively, but it’s weird it’s being spun into a sexism argument, especially on Margot’s part, especially since both are still nominated in other categories, and the Best Actress category in particular is *for* women. You might be able to make an argument for Greta being snubbed in the director category, and how female directors are both uncommon in the industry and aren’t well-represented in the Best Director category, but that can only take you so far, especially when as far as I know, this isn’t even Greta’s best outing as director, just as you said this isn’t Margot’s best as an actress. And while it is a tad ironic Ryan got nominated, the film focused *a lot* on him, and he arguably gave one of the best performances. And ignoring or even trying to downplay the role America Ferrera played in the film and questioning *her* nomination really makes it clear that when people yell about feminism in the context of this film, it’s rarely intersectional.
@dynamict4722
@dynamict4722 3 ай бұрын
Not the pink background lol♥️
@Chaco-leon
@Chaco-leon 3 ай бұрын
Yalitza Aparicio, an indigenous woman from Oaxaca, Mexico, won a best leading actress Oscar in 2018 btw
@zen_m24
@zen_m24 3 ай бұрын
She didn't win but she was nominated
@somewherelongago
@somewherelongago 3 ай бұрын
She wasn't even the frontrunner that year, her nomination comes as a surprised for most who was following the race
@Chaco-leon
@Chaco-leon 3 ай бұрын
My bad I remembered she won, but the movie did, not her.
@reannagordon
@reannagordon 3 ай бұрын
Margot should’ve won an Oscar for I, Tonya
@genesissmg
@genesissmg 3 ай бұрын
for real!!!
@ashleeshenanigans
@ashleeshenanigans 3 ай бұрын
Yesss and her role in Babylon!!
@Kompatainment
@Kompatainment 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! I get why a lot of people want Greta Gerwig to be nominated for best director. And i personally wouldn't mind that. But in the end she wouldn't win against her competitors anyway. I hope she wins adapted screenplay (altough it's an original screenplay but whatever...). As for Margot Robbie: She played the character perfectly fine. But the script itself didn't really allow an Oscar-worthy performance, no matter what actress played the role. The role of Ken just was more complex because he had to be the comic relief, the villain and the underdog all at the same time while Barbie was "just good".
@oolongtea4013
@oolongtea4013 3 ай бұрын
Barbie is a serviceable blockbuster and nothing more. Corny spoonfed feminism isn’t better than anything that was nominated for director.
@gxyzxne
@gxyzxne 3 ай бұрын
People just get offended over everything these days
@tasheve3015
@tasheve3015 3 ай бұрын
this was the first nuanced take i’ve seen about the nominations and i appreciate it you made me look at it from a different perspective. i agree with everything you said
@MoMo-rx4zr
@MoMo-rx4zr 3 ай бұрын
@yarazayhd makes incredible videos on film and tv and she did a great breakdown of this
@edreid7872
@edreid7872 3 ай бұрын
The Barbie fandom is insane, and reminds me of the Beehive and Swifties.. When I commented that I didn't particularly care for the movie, I was called sexist and an idiot for not supporting the messaging.. It's a film about a doll for God’s sake, and 8 nominations is extremely generous..
@reginamoura2239
@reginamoura2239 3 ай бұрын
Feminists doing what they do best Dragging other women when they don't blindly follow their cult.
@anyaaa2801
@anyaaa2801 3 ай бұрын
That’s so stupid jesus.
@GLamoRousCooKie
@GLamoRousCooKie 3 ай бұрын
It's not a film about a doll. It's a film about women's eperiences in a patriarchal, misogynistic society. The fact that you'd say that either points to the fact that a) you haven't watched it (so why do you have an opinion on it?) b) you're an agent of patriarchy yourself (and probably a male one at that). You're most likely guilty of both points. So kindly, shut it.
@leonoraprenga4465
@leonoraprenga4465 3 ай бұрын
I hate HATE when people who know NOTHING about cinema decide they have a right to talk about “snubs”. The general public (especially those who live their lives vicariously through social media) made it seem like the Academy was making some kind of sexist statement when that is obviously not the case. Margot’s performance was good. That’s it. It was not a performance that made her standout among all the other performances these year. On the contrary the other nominees for best actress had incredible performances that totally earned them that nomination. What enrages me the most are precisely these people who think they are making the most intelligent and thought out statement just because they compare it to the movie. So sad. People lack so much critical thinking.
@joelanthonyalvarado6947
@joelanthonyalvarado6947 3 ай бұрын
Barbie was fun but not a great overall movie. Please don’t attack me for being a man lmao
@caitlynsult2685
@caitlynsult2685 3 ай бұрын
i’m a girl and i agree with you, barbie was alright, but people are making it about gender just because it lost, it’s just a movie it’s not a big deal. worse things are happening in the world then a movie losing at an awards show
@zontzooit2415
@zontzooit2415 3 ай бұрын
This is how I feel about the Grammys… people say midnights deserves album of the year based on its popularity but truely the award deserves to go to Lana, or sza or even Olivia
@anyaaa2801
@anyaaa2801 3 ай бұрын
Yup. The swifties are hella annoying. I don’t even want to call myself anymore 😭.
@zontzooit2415
@zontzooit2415 3 ай бұрын
@@anyaaa2801 SAME!!!! they attacked that one swiftie who said midnights doesn’t desecrate AOTY in his video about it, u should watch it’s a good video and he made FAIR and good points nothing he said was mean or deserving of being called a “pick me” or f slur by his own community (gays)… swifties are insufferable
@Tam...
@Tam... 3 ай бұрын
It's ridiculous that it made so much, let alone getting Oscars🙄
@AzeemKhan-oz5cq
@AzeemKhan-oz5cq 3 ай бұрын
"Scor-see-yay" honest, honey....
@blakecox2179
@blakecox2179 3 ай бұрын
Like it’s not that deep. Greta Gerwig Received the nomination for best Director years ago for Lady Bird
@robsgamingchannel2077
@robsgamingchannel2077 3 ай бұрын
Gladstone is the first American* Indigenous woman nominated, lets not forget Yalitza Aparicio
@michaelnealis1926
@michaelnealis1926 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! It seems like everyone claiming sexism are forgetting that America was nominated for an Oscar.
@traiday28
@traiday28 3 ай бұрын
I wanna take this time to acknowledge American Fiction which has been nominated a lot too and was so good. It perfectly summed up and gave light to a different type of black story while calling out Americas love for the black struggle story…
@kalenharley8297
@kalenharley8297 3 ай бұрын
I understand why ken got a nomination instead of Barbie, because Ken literally had a story arc the Oscar’s likes when an actor has distinctive changing points with adversity, he had a villain arc and everything. They like more nuance. Margot Robbie didn’t have that she was just a victim.
@MVPMVE
@MVPMVE 3 ай бұрын
This might be a spicy take, but I think people aren't talking about America Ferrera's nomination because it's clear Oscar bait. I mean, Ferrera's "moment" is delivering an on-the-nose speech about the already obvious premise of the movie in a practically meta address to the audience, but not even in a unique, interesting, subtle, or nuanced way that would at least set her apart from any other similarly talented actress given the same material.
@piratealligator1319
@piratealligator1319 3 ай бұрын
I love that your opinions have common sense, unlike a big part of the internet.
@nohere112
@nohere112 3 ай бұрын
theyre just complaining bc barbie was the only movie they watched lol
@jasminekubi8147
@jasminekubi8147 3 ай бұрын
hey honest, can you please do a video on The Color Purple cast drama. It’s like one news story after another. On top of that I think the drama was why it wasn’t doing so well in the box office. I wanted to hear your take on it and it reminded me so much of the Don’t Worry Darling drama
@jasminekubi8147
@jasminekubi8147 3 ай бұрын
also to add the trend of how black actress are underpaid in Hollywood.
@olivia-wi3cj
@olivia-wi3cj 3 ай бұрын
barbie was taylor swift buzzfeed feminism if that makes sense
@manuelesecondini9504
@manuelesecondini9504 3 ай бұрын
This is what I was trying to say! Apart from the fact that not having nominations doesn’t mean not being good (it just means others were more outstanding than you this time around), as they said during the ceremony the categories are voted by other actors/directors…that means there has to be a reason why they weren’t chosen based on technical aspects. We can take America Ferrera as an example: her character’s speech during the movie on its own allowed her to gain enough relevance to be nominated.
@michealmahlangu6439
@michealmahlangu6439 3 ай бұрын
I have to agree, yes I get the side abit about the snubbing, but the other movies last year were also very good, Especially Oppenheimer and Poor Things which tackle complex societal and emotional issues. That does not take away from the power Barbie held.
@st3458
@st3458 3 ай бұрын
In my opinion im glad Margot wasn’t nominated for best actress for this movie only because her acting in Barbie was good but it’s was clearly just fun and not to serious and im glad she wasn’t nominated for it cuz she would have been nominated strictly because the hype she got for the movie and Margot has played better characters who are more complexed in other movies that she should have been nominated for Oscar’s for that would be a more deserving nomination then her work in Barbie
@RynsFandomsFun
@RynsFandomsFun 3 ай бұрын
THANK YOU! So many people are getting upset over this, ignoring the great nomination America received! Her monologue is one of my most memorable parts of the movie, with "I'm Just Ken" being the other most memorable part of the movie (for me personally), so seeing their nominations felt well deserved. Heck, I reference most of Ken's lines more than anything else from the film (aside from the class "Hi Barbie/Ken" scene). I know Margot was the lead actress, and she did an incredible job, but I think a lot of the supporting cast around her did a phenomenal job! Heck, Ariana who portrayed America's daughter, Simu Liu as Ken, and Kate Mckinnon as Weird Barbie all also did amazing, and sadly I don't think they got any nominations from any award show. A lot of great talent went into this movie!! And only commenting how two women from one movie didn't get a nomination for an award also kinda defeats the purpose of the movie. Barbie was not the only movie to come out in 2023, and the other women nominated for Best Actress should be congratulated, not (possibly) feel bad cause they "took the spot away" from Margot Robbie. It wasn't like Ryan Gosling took a nomination away from Margot Robbie, OTHER WOMEN were what "took the nomination" away. I will agree though, Greta not getting nominated for Best Director does feel very heartbreaking, but there was just a lot of great talent in 2023.
@AffogatoAnime
@AffogatoAnime 3 ай бұрын
Wow Honest this was a really good take! There's so much buzz of Barbie being snubbed it's hard to have a conversation about what's really the crux of how female centered messaging should be highlighted in cinema. And good on you for pointing out Lily Gladstone, its interesting how the media keeps shifting their outrage for something but p.o.c especially women get left out... (that's my two cents lol)
@futuristic7422
@futuristic7422 3 ай бұрын
Yet another reason why I love KZbin over TikTok… because over here u see a diverse take on situations instead of one main one being forced on u by TikTok
@electric7487
@electric7487 3 ай бұрын
I had the misfortune of watching this thing not too long ago since a bunch of my friends wanted to see it. I walked out 30 minutes in.
@oolongtea4013
@oolongtea4013 3 ай бұрын
I’m sorry do u want a movie with a car commercial in the middle of it to be nominated for director that’s outrageous
@Weezing336
@Weezing336 3 ай бұрын
You're completely right. It wasn't snubbed. Barbie got Best Picture, Margot got producing, Gerwig got writing. Plus the movie was recognized in so many other categories as well. And these nominations were not guaranteed. Barbie wasn't the only movie released in 2023. One thing though, other directors or performances weren't objectively better. Voters were just subjectively more into or impressed by other choices.
@donjai9366
@donjai9366 3 ай бұрын
I Agree w/ Honest. Margot Robbie is a great actress however I do think that there were other actresses w/ better roles in movies. And there's nothing wrong w/ Ryan Gosling getting a nomination for Best Supporting actor because he's good at his job & IMPO (In My Personal Opinion) Ryan Gosling was the highlight of the movie. I thought he was most entertaining & the funniest character in the movie. Margot was good but she's had better roles. I just wish people would shine a light on the other actresses who got nominated & praise Ryan for his work instead of tearing down other women just because Margot did not get nominated. I feel like now whenever a man or more than 1 man is nominated for something whether it's music or acting or producing even screenwriting women always pull the feminism card & say that a man does not deserve his nomination or win for something. Why can't a man just be nominated for something or win award just because he's good. Why does it always have to be about feminism. Whenever a man is nominated or wins an award for something I feel like women always want to say the reason why a ma got nominated or won is because of his gender. Why does it have to be because of gender ? Why can't it just be because the man is good ?
@Sevenninefine
@Sevenninefine 3 ай бұрын
Okaay! Honest with the roll out of videos . He has had ENOUGH! 😂
@BottledBlueOnYouTube
@BottledBlueOnYouTube 2 ай бұрын
‘hungers game’ and the pronunciation of Martin Scorsese is sending me
@nonoyoucant
@nonoyoucant 3 ай бұрын
3:08 wrong. yalitza aparicio is the first ( unless there’s another one before her ) for that category. lily is the first native american though.
@urgstheword
@urgstheword 3 ай бұрын
Oooh you’ve been shaking the table lately 😂
@asuna5701
@asuna5701 3 ай бұрын
I’m loving the consistency with the uploads! Making your background pink for the Barbie topic was a nice touch too!💖
@AngiePhoenix85
@AngiePhoenix85 3 ай бұрын
Anways, PROPS to Lily Gladestone!!! 🎉🎉🎉
@oomay1925
@oomay1925 3 ай бұрын
I was expecting Gerwig to get a nom but I wouldn't have expected her to win anyway even if she did. Like its really not that serious.
@mas4583
@mas4583 3 ай бұрын
2:07 Greta Gerwig received a nomination for screenplay…
@retrogurl.
@retrogurl. 3 ай бұрын
Barbie is overrated. lots of ppl ik said they didn’t understand the movie and wouldn’t watch it more than once. they kinda made ken the star lowkey. he had his own dance number and more of a sense of humor.
@fan7708
@fan7708 3 ай бұрын
I loveeee the pink you should definitely change the background colors more. When Olivia wins album of the year you should do purple 😅
@rachelh1445
@rachelh1445 3 ай бұрын
Yes! And I want her to win too 💜💜💜
@danielapardo9776
@danielapardo9776 3 ай бұрын
Me too I want her to win so so so bad.
@55555gino
@55555gino 2 ай бұрын
You won’t change my mind. Ferrera was Ok but didn’t deserve that nomination. Rosamund pike in Saltburn, or Julianne Moore in May December were incredible and much more deserving
@Alexandra-ew3ep
@Alexandra-ew3ep 3 ай бұрын
Everything you said is on point 👏🏼👏🏼
@shutupandeaturgrass8872
@shutupandeaturgrass8872 3 ай бұрын
I don't get it with American, Barbie is an awful film, cheesy corny, and the men praises Ken, the character Ken wasn't even anywhere near great nor interesting, and his soundtrack is the worst in the movie but won Golden Globe. The movie wasn't funny or comedically worthy. From feminism point, it's even worse, it make feminism looks childish and silly. But on rotten tomatoes, both audiences and critics giving it excellent rates over 80% Idk wtf is wrong with the shitty taste but it shown. Maybe just like the music, American have different taste than the rest of the world, tasteless taste.
@blueberrydreams2178
@blueberrydreams2178 3 ай бұрын
I loved barbie, but i also feel the same way about this oscar nomination case as honest.
@Sanamina119
@Sanamina119 3 ай бұрын
I feel like you've missed the point. The problem isn't that Margot Robbie and Greta Gerwig didn't get nominations. Its the fact that out of this female led feminist movie, the person to receive the greatest critical acclaim is Ryan Gosling. It's just ironic that the main thing people took out of seeing Barbie was how great HE was.
@MorganKing95
@MorganKing95 2 ай бұрын
Feminist logic: - Men have to actually earn their merits - Women are entitled to a nomination, or else it’s sexist
@hoeforxuxi9377
@hoeforxuxi9377 3 ай бұрын
This is why I luv you!!!!
@DeeL3
@DeeL3 3 ай бұрын
Barbie was the most overrated and disappointing movie of last year. America's speech was the best part of the movie.
@queen_makayla
@queen_makayla 3 ай бұрын
Plus they still got eight notmations plus why is it that there's more people getting mad that Margot Robbie (No shade I love Margot)❤ didn't get nominated ,vs just congratulating America Ferrera who did get nominated.
@hajeraa
@hajeraa 3 ай бұрын
omg !!! this here !!! thank you for this amazing point of view.... it's not always about white women winning awards... sometimes we can also cheer for the other side and communities... like women of First Nations who never got a nomination in the history of the Oscar and lily being the first one ever !!!!! I feel these nominations were well organized and nominated. I also do feel that poor things and flower moon where a little more strong, brave and feminist.
@anyaaa2801
@anyaaa2801 3 ай бұрын
Poor Things surprised me. At the beginning, I wasn’t sure about Bella and the story surrounding her but when I reached the end, I realised how much she has grown. lol that is the type of story that deserves awards.
@icebreaker5303
@icebreaker5303 3 ай бұрын
I think you guys expected Margot to do a great job as Barbie so you weren’t surprised neither noticed it when she actually did, Ryan however was absolutely underestimated and the studio bashed for casting him before the movie came out, so his performance seemed way better afterwards since ppl didn’t expect Ken to even play a significant role in the movie in the first place. His performance was great but not over exceptionally better than hers in that sense. Like she was Barbie, Barbie was her. I think Ur points are valid regarding the fact that ferera was still nominated and that other actresses had better opportunities to show off their skills and also did but I need y’all to stop making it seem like Ken was better simply bcs y’all didn’t expect Ryan to go all out
@mermaiiiidddd3121
@mermaiiiidddd3121 3 ай бұрын
I believe the main issue here is that while the movie did receive noms, imo I don’t think the right people got noms. I don’t think Ryan Goslings performance was that profound to get a nom
@DanielOkungbowa
@DanielOkungbowa 3 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree with everything you said!
@theresacottone
@theresacottone 3 ай бұрын
I think your analysis is spot on. I loved the Barbie movie but it was very main stream. Which is great because it’s accessible and its message is going to stick with young viewers for the rest of their lives. The more prestige films with heavier material are going to fill up the big categories. It makes sense that the two supporting characters got nominated. Though Greta not getting nominated stinks. But the category was pretty stacked.
@loto159
@loto159 3 ай бұрын
Hey Honest, do you do the voice for the Burger King ads?
@allys744
@allys744 3 ай бұрын
THANK YOU! I’m so glad someone else is pointing this out! If anything, the Academy is highlighting how talented both Margot and Greta are: Margot is also a producer with her own company that she co runs with her husband and Greta was a pretty good screenwriter long before she became a director. They weren’t snubbed at all. Also, Margot is a great actress, but TBH: her portrayal of Barbie, while memorable, doesn’t exactly compare to the other performances in the categories. Margot’s performances in I Tonya and even Wolf of Wall Street are more Oscar worthy.
@chelskaf
@chelskaf 3 ай бұрын
wtf there are way better movies than barbie idk why people hype it up so much
@juaking04
@juaking04 3 ай бұрын
Finally someone said it🗣
@TadanGirl
@TadanGirl 3 ай бұрын
Barbie isn’t even a good movie. Ironically, the only thing that did make it good was Ken, because Ryan Gosling made the role unique and iconic. Robbie’s performance was great but Barbie was not well-written. If you’ve ever seen a Barbie movie before, you’d understand what I mean.
@luizachagas9398
@luizachagas9398 3 ай бұрын
I live for the way you say Scorsese
@danielleblue266
@danielleblue266 3 ай бұрын
💯 factz!!! X 300
@TheAlexisBrownChannel
@TheAlexisBrownChannel 3 ай бұрын
I completely agree with you. This outrage is so selective, it’s nothing but mostly white women getting mad that their favs didn’t get nominated. I think Greta & Margot were deserving, but they had a lot of stiff competition and I thought those other directors and actresses deserved their nominations more. But this is my opinion. I just hate that people are making this the focus instead all of the women of color getting nominations and the impact that, that has made on the Oscars.
@emomu
@emomu 3 ай бұрын
I loved Margot in Barbie, but it's far from her best role honestly. She's played tons of better characters IMO (Harley Quinn, Naomi from TWOWS, etc.) and I feel like Gosling was the real star of the show in the movie. Plus, major props to Lily for being the first Native American to be nominated for Best Actress!
@QUANTUMJOKER
@QUANTUMJOKER 2 ай бұрын
I had an article published last week in the Star Mail (an Australian local newspaper chain) about the Oscar nominations. I addressed the Barbie controversy, praising Margot Robbie's moving, nuanced performance, suggesting that it would have been fair to nominate both Barbie and Ken, and drawing a parallel between Barbie and Argo (both films were nominated for Best Picture but their directors were not nominated for Best Director), but my article was much more concerned about Saltburn, which wasn't nominated for ANYTHING. I discussed Barry Keoghan's compelling, fearless performance and asserted that Saltburn should have been nominated for Best Cinematography (it's a BEAUTIFUL movie) and Best Original Screenplay for its witty, engrossing, really well-structured narrative. By the way, I didn't include this in the article, but I never thought Gerwig and Robbie not being nominated was sexist in nature.
@briannalee1998
@briannalee1998 3 ай бұрын
I do think the movie should have won best costumes and best set design, but not necessarily best director or best actress. Margot Robbie is a great actress, but the other women nominated had more challenging roles. Her best performance was in I Tonya. Lily Gladstone deserved it for sure! Congrats to her for being rewarded for her hard work and for being the first indigenous woman to get nominated and win! Poor Things and Killers of the Flower Moon deserved it. They are objectively better movies. Anatomy of a Fall and Poor Things were much deeper and had more insightful and organic takes on feminism. Not trying to knock Barbie, the movie was a blast and one f the most anticipated, but I understand why it didn’t win as many rewards against the other films.
@PurpleNoir
@PurpleNoir 3 ай бұрын
Lily Gladstone being nominated for best actress is what we should be celebrating!
@artemisthecatfish5142
@artemisthecatfish5142 3 ай бұрын
At first I was confused but in retrospective this is just an effect of white feminism.
@teriverse
@teriverse 3 ай бұрын
yep!! "barbie" was not snubbed. the film still got nominated - margot for her producing work & greta for her writing work. like, bruhhh 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨 btw, I enjoyed the film! 💞 also, yalitza aparicio was the first indigenous mexican to be nominated for best actress (let's not erase her achievement 😢).
@rhobot75
@rhobot75 3 ай бұрын
Just so THE ZONE OF INTEREST takes that Best Picture win, we are good. What an amazing film.
@MoMo-rx4zr
@MoMo-rx4zr 3 ай бұрын
zone of interest would be controversial because most of the general public only read the description and did t catch the film and it was receiving backlash for being antisemitic because nothing says antisemitism like a jewish director making a film about the indifference nazis felt to jewish suffering (sarcasm). The anglosphere doesn’t watch foreign films, and they would have the audacity to cry about it
@somewherelongago
@somewherelongago 3 ай бұрын
The Zone of Interest getting a nom is a miracle within itself given its extremely odd release plan and the lack of a solid FYC campaign, relying mostly on festival hype that has already been dying down atp. It'll like win Best Foreign Film since France fumbled the bag on not submitting Anatomy of a Fall, but that basically guarantee that it will not be a serious contender in any other category
@Kaylamity_slays
@Kaylamity_slays 3 ай бұрын
It’s not just the golden globes or even the Oscars, Ryan gosling winning over Billie eillish at the people’s choice awards is also ironic. The entire award system has ignored the plot & it’s very ironic. Idk how you can argue otherwise. It’s not a comparison against other nominees, it’s about the films women getting less recognition than the man playing Ken to which I strongly disagree was well played or even a necessary role. There was way too much Ken in a movie about Barbie first & foremost & it’s all laughably ironic.
@smthngtosay
@smthngtosay 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! It was a cute little movie nothing more nothing less! It wasn’t that great, it didn’t shake the table, and it is mostly aesthetic and that okay! Take the cute little movie for what it was and move on!
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