S3#43. BIG REVEAL - the CAUSE of the FIRE that destroyed our new Leopard 50!

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[@SailingDarkAngel]

Thank you for this eye-opening information! Most of us use acetone regularly for cleanup and surface prep. Your tale is now a cautionary one for us! So happy for you that this is all behind you now. Fair winds

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

It certainly is - glad it was useful, guys!

[@CuriousHumbleMarie]

As a person who has dealt with back to back heartbreaking losses the last several years, I felt your pain with the initial news of your loss…didn’t know all the details but I could tell how you were hurting. So happy to hear that it’s finally over and it’s been a great inspiration to see how you’ve dealt with everything. Kudos guys and may you both have many years of smooth sailing and happily living your dream! 💙

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hi Marie, sorry to hear about your losses too and hope you are on the road (or yacht) to recovery. Just remember you're not alone and reach out if you feel the need.

[@rodhinds4592]

Very interesting, Magnus from "Nutshell ' almost lost his boat and his life after the fumes from a can of engine degreaser ignited. I carry both Acetone and Degreaser on my boat. Ill take them off . Lesson learnt. Thanks.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for the info about degreaser, Rod - that's news to me so we will need to look into it. I don;t think we carry any but do have some aerosols of cleaners for glue....

[@dickjanschipper9309]

A man was using contact adhesive to glue a new ceiling panel. I saw the boat explode, the man jumped overboard but died of 3rd degee burn wounds in hospital later.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

@@dickjanschipper9309 Wow, scary stuff….

[@paton57]

Fine to carry them on board in a sealed metal container, even WD40

[@MY_SOLACE]

Good information. I also carry these fluids on my boat. Now, need to rethink storage.

[@WillN2Go1]

So happy this has finally been resolved. You lost your beautiful dream home. I know about rags and acetone, solvents, fumes that settle, flammability, etc, etc... And yet! on my boat is a liter of acetone. I'll drive up and get it off. Kind of foolish of me. I even just checked on the can two days ago. Now when I do get it off my boat with no bad result I've also learned that 'no bad outcome' doesn't mean 'It was okay,' 'it was safe,' or I should keep doing it. It's a lesson I used to teach my students. I also need to make sure I have the right information. What else might I have missed....? I'm happy no one died, it all got sorted and I think all of us who are your fans are especially happy that you're building an even more amazing new boat.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for the comment Will and just buy some new acetone if you need it....

[@aytacercen944]

When you were inching the cork off the campagna bottle, I had to pause the video before the bubbly burst, so I could go get a beer and celebrate at the same time as you did because by then I knew you would be going into details from episode title. I knew it was over.. Glad it was settled and finalized. I stopped asking about your insurance because I had a hunch you were limited on what you could say or couldn't. I always hoped one day it would be settled in a favorable way and you would give us the good news and some details. Today was that day. I may have mentioned in my earlier inquiries about my war with insurance companies over an accident that took place at my place of business and it also involved a fire and a night security guard that got injured. I also was woken up by at 3:AM by a phone call. All incidents such as your where property is damaged or lost and individuals hurt, and an insurance company is involved....could be a nightmare. I am very happy that it is done and over with. Looking forward to the next chapter with the new boat.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Lovely that you celebrated the champagne with us, Ayten! Unfortunately our experience is not isolated and sorry you had to go through it too. We will also share in a few weeks how to get a "good" insurance company and the intricacies in the fine print that folk need to watch for...

[@supertom8552]

Glad all involved were ok in the end , of this situation, and the two of you keep on living your dreams ! 🫶🏻

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks you so much Tom! Yes from the day of the fire, we had to focus on the gratitude that there were no deaths and that it did not happen to us in the middle of the ocean!

[@LifeOnTheHulls]

My brother left rags soaked in linseed oil in his brand new LandRover in Sydney.The rags spontaneously combusted and the vehicle was lost.There are a lot of chemicals that will ignite .Thank you for your upfront, professional and honest video.Cheers Rossco

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for sharing, Rossco! Yes, as you say there are other oils will self ignite too - one viewer said I was wrong about acetone self igniting - I may do an experiment to show it happening...

[@patrickjohn2990]

I am happy that you finally got that resolved. Had no idea acetone was that dangerous on boats. I am heading to my boat now to make sure I don’t have any onboard. Thanks for sharing.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Glad it helped, Patrick!

[@philgray3443]

Here is something just as bad. Linseed oil. It will self combust but will take 2-3 hours to do it. Everything looks fine until the smoke starts. Very dangerous stuff.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

@@philgray3443 Yes I had heard that about linseed oil too and some of the other seemingly innocuous oils!

[@LoanwordEggcorn]

Don't listen to the trolls. They're projecting their own problems and/or ignorance. Glad you're doing ok. Look forward to the new boat.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for the support and wise words! Will do exactly that!!!

[@glennburch1081]

Grateful nobody got hurt seriously. Also glad nobodys reputation got destroyed. Just an unfortunate accident. Sorry for the loss of a possession that obviously had so much sentimental value. May your future be bright in rebuilding your sailboat life. Be well, sail safe. Congratulations on moving forward, BOLDLY!!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks so much, Glenn. We certainly see opportunities arose out of the catastrophe and also we stopped taking “No” for the answer on our new design requirements. So we finally got all those unique features.

[@gordonboot]

Thank you for sharing this story, and I am truly touched by the resilience you put on display, because the stress and uncertainty will have been tremendous. This is invaluable educational content! I am currently working towards a similar dream, and whilst doing that, am also watching many sailors to learn from troubles, issues, and challenges that they experience(d) and how they, including yourselves, have over-come these successfully. One of my very old bosses once said to me... learn to rob with your Hands in your Pockets, be observant, watch and evaluate, then apply. So thank you again for sharing your reflections, which is invaluable. Fair Winds, Good Luck & Good Fortune.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

It's a pleasure Gordon and good luck with your dream! And just for the record, it is never anything to do with luck - just persistence and usually quite a lot of work....

[@mikewalker1081]

Wow! What an emotional roller coaster! Looking forward to seeing your new catamaran!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks Mike! Yes getting the P52 on the water will be a very exciting time!!!

[@markbernier8434]

This was inspirational. As soon as you said Acetone my heart dropped. All those lectures from Uni where I listened to later when I expounded made me think maybe I did some good along the way. I'd love to buy you two a drink somewhere and swap stories. All the best.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for sharing!! Would love to catch up. Mark - which part of the world are you in?

[@markbernier8434]

Great White North@@barefootdoctorssailing8567

[@philpaige9770]

Wonderful news. It was curious to me how the fire engulfed the boat from stem to stern all at once.. Now we know why. Happy sails ahead.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for watching Phil and thanks for the support

[@OnTheFlipSide]

Congratulations on finally having some closure on this situation. Everyone is going through something. The deeper the 💩💩💩 the harder you swim. I am going through a personal hell right now, I refuse to let other people's choices bring me down, and every day has been a struggle of late, I will get there, I will succeed, and I will come out of this stronger. I have a list of Pros on my fridge door, no cons, I won't allow any negatives to have a voice. There is nothing I can do to change 2 major hurdles in my situation, I do have the choice of how I cope. Even though the smile on my face is fake, the smiles I receive back are real.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hi Amanda, so sorry to hear about your struggle but with that awesome positive attitude, you are right, you will come out stronger and overcome the hurdles. In life we get thrown some curve balls and in the end it is our attitude that can make or break us, rather than the hurdles... PM us to chat more if you like.

[@markbernier8434]

You have my sincere sympathy.

[@davidcahill3104]

Just Catamarans liability policy would have got a good work out

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

@@davidcahill3104 yes all insurances were fully exercised!!!!

[@johnkosowski3321]

@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 I sure hope Just Catamarans did right by you. I like to do much of my own work because I just can't stand the idea of overpaying for work that might not even be good. Then the idea that you can turn over your catamaran to the professionals, have something like this happen and then put the problems in your lap.

[@thejudge1445]

Glad to hear your ordeal is over. Great service to all of us to be educated about the dangers of Acetone.. Good luck and thanks

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thank you for your support and comments - very much appreciated!

[@RebootTheCatamaran]

Thank you for sharing what happened-I work with solvents as an artist and I have acetone and paint thinner onboard our Lagoon catamaran. Removing both today because although I know how to handle and store them, it’s not worth the risk 😳.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

It’s a shame but might be an alternative out there for you.

[@eddr9172]

Hi guys, Happy to know you solve the problem and things are finishing well :-) Enjoy life !!!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks Ed! We certainly count our blessings every day....

[@ronbeaubien]

Thank you for informing us once you were able to do so. Very sorry to hear about the individuals injured, for all of the harm, and the financial losses suffered.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for your patience Ron, and your support!

[@magnusenamd]

Finally. I understood that nothing in the engine compartment was the cause. So must be something that was added and in an accident. Lucky no one died here. Thanks for letting us all know the reason.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Exactly Magnus - so long to wait and finally we can talk about it and get the facts out...

[@TLJH53]

So sorry for loss and thanks I will properly dispose of my acetone now. Used for fingernail polish removal stored in my bathroom. Just not worth having possible combustion.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Good call!!

[@PatriciaStevens-rv6kn]

So glad you posted this comment! I was just wondering about my nail polish and there was your comment! I’ll get rid of it today!

[@johnmajewski1065]

Thanks for sharing-l fully appreciate your decision to go low key in dealing with this problematic situation. I did the same-In December 2019 l did not have a fire but same experience as my boat was knocked over on the hard stand by the boat next to me that was not tied down probably. It took 4 months with insurance claims and 18 months 12:06 for a total rebuild from top of the mast to the bottom of the keel, striping the mast newrebuilding and repair dented aluminium hull and all it in tailed-plus my management of all the services and trades. Just because the slip management team did not inspect the tie downs on the boat next to me! Now my boat is as good as new! SV Skoiern IV all of this could have been avoided but for one mistake.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Sorry that you had to go through that too, John. So much wasted time, worry and usually stuff that is never covered by insurance even if they do pay…

[@johnmajewski1065]

It is called an uncalled-for life share experiences @@barefootdoctorssailing8567 🌎

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hope neither of us have deal with anything like that again!

[@johnmajewski1065]

Agreed, let's hope while having fun life runs out of left field surprises. @@barefootdoctorssailing8567

[@captainrehab2047]

Great to hear the case is finally resolved. Been waiting to hear the cause. Such a traumatic event! Your resolve is inspiring. Makes our 5 gal diesel leak in the port engine compartment and our black mold destroyed settee cushions both seem minor annoyances. Working with the people who cleaned our cushions and wrapped them up wet, and the one who replaced the fuel pump to fix what they broke. Looking forward to the launch of your dream cat!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Nice to hear from you and we also know that others have lost lives or close ones so we are not the worst off by a long shot! However, everyone going through the struggle has to dig deep. Hopefully you are back out on the water now? And yes, we can't wait for launch date!!!

[@ianh2674]

Hi folks, very pleased for you both that event is now over and you can effectively move on without having to look back over your shoulders all the time.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks very much Ian and, yes there were dark times so now it is so good to get it behind us!

[@glynmatthews2156]

I am ask pleased that this traumatic nightmare is finally over and you have all of the excitement of the Portofino 52 to look forward to. Well done and thanks for the update.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

You and us both, Glynn! Thanks for the regular support!

[@roybeardsworth8860]

Some things to consider prior to engaging a head contractor in the future to manage the works on your yacht. 1- Have they a Safety Management System 2- Can they demonstrate how it is implemented 3 - in respect to the works that were undertaken by both contractors did they have documented Safe Work Method Statements and prior to starting work had they completed a Job Safety Analysis ( risk assessment) 4 - Did the contractor who was using the acetone have the Safety Data Sheet available which would highlight the risks also of using the product. 5 - The Head Contractor is responsible for coordinating works so that they don’t create additional risk .

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hi Roy, thanks for that and you are of course correct! One would always expect the operators to follow the safety procedures but like with air plane accidents, human error is all too common. Fortunately with this one no lives were lost but it was still life changing for many....

[@edwardcassel3789]

I remember watching that boat burn and have wondered what on Earth could have happened. Thanks for the ending of this story. I was in a building on a Saturday working and a worker was stripping war from a floor in the basement. He was using a circular hand held buffer that is used to wax a floor. But he was on that day using Acetone to cut the old wax. The buffer had gotten the old wax and acetone on his pants and at some point it ignited. The poor man was life-flighted to a hospital but later died. So, yes, acetone is a very dangerous chemical and should only be used in open spaces that are well ventilated. So glad you guys came out of this justified. God bless.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Sorry to hear that Edward and obviously confirms the awfulness and danger of acetone....

[@jameslandi4688]

in 1992, an electric fire severely damaged our 52 foot motor boat... I learned, through various sources, that the insurance company had hired a private detective agency to check on us. We did receive compensation for the damage, and over the many years since, I can certainly appreciate the insurance company's investigations, as it is almost impossible to determine the true cause of some fires on boats.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for the insight James. Yes, the insurers will always look to see what they can use to avoid paying out - that is their business and we will cover some of these things in the episode in a few weeks when we discuss the legals of insurance.

[@VINCENTOCONNOR]

Hi Guys, great video, and I am delighted that you have finnaly resolved this problem. Happy sailing.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hey, thanks Vincent!

[@mountaindweller9118]

I absolutely love your positive attitudes in the face of adversity. Very glad this chapter is finally behind you and on to a new exciting chapter. Cheers!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thank you so much for your support and comments!

[@davidnichols147]

Thank you both again for this inspirational episode. We are very fond of your channel and are so Happy the journey will continue. Merry Christmas and enjoy your drink.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thank you so much for your regular support and comments, David!

[@firstdaywithnewbrain2504]

Thank you for sharing your story. My wife and I are currently going through a extremely trying time so you words of encouragement really help. I don’t want to bore you with the details. We’ll get through this and we’ll be stronger in the end. I look forward to your videos every week. Thank you and cheers.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hi Richard, nice to hear from you. Hope you are doing well and her business is progressing well also.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hi there, cheers for your support. I am sorry that you are having a life struggle right now, but if you are both on the same team of working through what is in front of you then you have double the chance of success! There is life after struggle!If you ever feel the need to talk with someone if you are not already, PM us.... We are here for you. Hang in there!!!

[@keithb2338]

What an awesome video! So happy and relieved for you. Bless you both, happy sailing!🙏❤️

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks very much Keith!

[@ahminmabed5166]

All very interesting. Thanks for sharing. Glad it's all over for you

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

So nice of you, Amin!

[@scottschraeger4655]

Thank you for sharing a very difficult situation. You two are so inspirational.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thank you so much, Scott! Very kind!!!

[@erbrock1]

So happy for you that it has been resolved and thank you so much for sharing. I'm wondering if you've put together a video of all the things you have learned from this experience - insurance companies, lawyers, things not to keep on a boat, things to make sure you have on a boat, and the list goes on. Anyway, once again, so happy its over and best wishes to you both.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for the comment Erbrock - we certainly plan to put out a video about those matters separately and the insurance strategies will hopefully be in two weeks. We will try to get the other items covered in different episodes too... Great idea.

[@47714]

I love watching you both on KZbin! I’m so happy for you both!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks very much and very kind of you!

[@papa.mike01]

I love that you have such a beautiful outlook on life and don’t have an attitude of “must blame” which so many in our society have these days. Boats/yachts become a part of your life and even family. The loss is definitely devastating. Merry Christmas and blessings to you.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Yes! Thank you again Prof and Happy Christmas to you too!

[@limericcntelosnet]

I am thrilled for you both.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks Crystal - good to finally be able to release the facts too!

[@MrJerobona]

I am so happy for you that this nightmare is finished! Congratulations! Looking forward to your new adventures! Jerome, from L.A.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks again Jero.

[@gebi4pejo1]

Good news and congratulations. So glad the workers weren’t hurt too badly could’ve been so devastating for you and them. Any way moving on is the best way to go. Enjoying all your travels, yeh spend the kids inheritance we’ve worked to hard enjoy our rewards…❤🇦🇺

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks Geb!

[@greatnorthern3481]

Thank you very much for the full story and for looking after all parties

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Our pleasure - it is in our nature and we want to improve the world with positive support, not divide it with antagonism...

[@martymerkler5472]

Thanks for the update. Great couple, keep sailing.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thank you Mark! Will do and thanks for the support.

[@davebrunson125]

Lesson to be learned, always turn on the blowers before and during working with flammable liquids. If the blowers were on it wouldn't have happen. Sorry for your loss it was a simple mistake

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Absolutely Dave, thanks for your support!

[@nkdave747]

I love your channel! It’s a real eye opener how fast fire on a boat can start and spread. We also own a Leopard 50 and it was so sad to see yours burn up! Way to stay positive! I’m looking forward to your next video on insurance.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Yes, those people that own boats just have horror when they see this sort of thing happening. See you next week then Dave!

[@firstamendment7568]

God Bless You, Both! Thank you for sharing and being an Inspiration!!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

You are very kind, thanks very much!

[@222INFINITY]

Local News had reported workers on your boat when there was an explosion. Had assumed it was thieves stripping out electronics causing a short circuit that caused the fire. To think this was caused by negligence through such poor workmanship, that acetone was allowed to seep into the bilge is beyond belief. Thank goodness no one was killed. The environmental damage in this fire was huge.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Too true, 222!

[@scarletbegonias2359]

I never had any doubts about your innocence from the onset. I felt the loss that must have consumed you both. You two have been so forthcoming and generous throughout your videos and I, like so many others were always wishing you well from the sidelines. It saddens me that you are defending yourselves even now and that only makes the hardship that much worse. Very glad to see the two of you landed on your feet. There's a pun in there somewhere, but suffice to say that I/We take comfort in this outcome.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for your support Scarlet and kind words!

[@Holeysocks464]

Thank you, your attitude is very reassuring. As sailors and skiers ourselves for our over 50 years of marriage it’s refreshing to see your fun attitude and enthusiasm staying strong through thick and thin. Cheers

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Congrats on your 50 years!!! Yes, we value our relationship and take regular steps to keep the fire alive...

[@Holeysocks464]

@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 👍❤️✌️

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

:))

[@sailingpassat]

What a postive video! Glad it all got sorted out as it should have and that the 2 gentlemen are ok too. Keep on staying positive and following your dreams.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thank you! Will do and thanks very much for commenting.

[@reinhardbonelli8762]

Congratulations. And thank you for all the moral encourayements to us.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Our pleasure, Reinhard and thanks for commenting and supporting us through it all!

[@DoubleUThings]

What a story, people! Happy for you it worked out like it did, eventhough it took "some" time. Enjoy! Greetingz, Wim

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thank you very much, Wim!

[@richardmorholt1175]

I'm glad it worked out. This is Richard, we met at Annapolis last year , I was there on behave of my daughter Dr, Michelle Eva Morholt. She was starting up a medical business.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hi Richard, yes I remember! Nice to hear from you and thanks for following and the support.

[@forumshawaii]

Thank you guys!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

It's a pleasure and hope all is settling in Lahaina..... Eli and I are still happy to counsel anyone for free for mental resilience after difficult events as our TUFMINDS processes are very effective for PTSD. If you know anyone still struggling, get them to contact us ([e-mail])

[@graywalker1272]

Wow. Happy that you are happy now and moving forward with your dreams.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Yes! Thank you, Gray!

[@nspctor7729]

A valuable lesson for us ALL. In the construction/renovation industry for over 50 years, the first time I've heard that acetone was heavier than air. How about that for teaching an old dog... Propane (LPG) has similar properties hence the reason propane fueled cars are not allowed in underground parking garages.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Yes its a good thing when we can learn from each other!

[@AndyUK-Corrival]

Kudos for the way you two dealt with this situation. I remember well the videos up to the fire and shortly after and all the speculation by followers. The pressure to say something must have been great but as professionals you held your tongues until it was all sorted. I will listen with interest about the insurance claim as that could be useful for any sailor needing to make a claim. Enjoy the new boat. Andy UK

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks Andy!

[@recgar]

KZbins algorithm god just introduced me to your channel. This is the first I've heard of this. I'm sorry you had to endure such legal turmoil for 2 seemingly very long years I'm sure but first and foremost I'm happy no one was seriously injured. I'm very happy it all worked out for you in the end. I'm happy the idiot trolls didn't stop you from sharing. Most likely they never watched your channel until the accident so good for you not letting them knock you down. Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge so others may learn, especially considering you had nothing to do with what happened. Enjoy each other, you deserve it.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

We really appreciate your kind words and understanding! Thank you so much!!!

[@petenaylor1353]

Thank you for the information in this video. I did not realize the severe volatility of acetone AND I have a pint of it in a locker on my boat AND I am guilty of rag misuse as well. It will be gone ASAP. All the best with your upcoming sailing adventures.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Glad we can all learn from this. I don't think too many people are aware of such a risk.

[@TheDixiechick12]

Happy for you both.Cheers

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks Guys!

[@dgrant2467]

Congratulations! All the best for a wonderful future!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks Grant!

[@jrp616]

Happy that you guys finally got closure on that sad chapter. Thanks for sharing the cause, very important message. Many of us store acetone in our boat and home. Besides the acetone lesson, the other take away is never expect a quick resolution when the US legal system is involved.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for the support and yes, the legal system in the US leads the world in expense, time consumption and illogicality (in my view).

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Yes, we all have learned something valuable out of this, and it is a good thing John and myself are patient people by nature!

[@brandonhawkins3266]

When you’re going thru he’ll don’t stop, keep moving forward. ❤

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Good advice Brandon - I have never thought of it that way but it is good!

[@stevesomerville6944]

Well done. Glad its all worked out. Just shows how a simple thing in life can change everything

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks Steve - that's right but fortunately lives were not lost....

[@constantinealexandrakis]

Congratulations on getting closure. It's so preposterous for anyone to suggest that you would put yourself deliberately through such an ordeal that i can only attribute it to envy and mean spirit. Your magnanimity stands in great contrast! You deserve every happiness. Cheers!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks very much Constantine! It is surprising how malicious people can be but it really does only reflect on themselves.

[@jlb9074]

Thank you so much for sharing this. I had already swore off Just Cats for other reasons, but adding this to my growing list of avoiding them like the plague.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for your comment and support, JLB!

[@fendant123]

This was very eye-opening and informative. Thanks so much.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

You are so welcome, Fen! Yes, acetone is scary stuff...

[@mathewdavis-adventuresandd6643]

Glad I popped in for the update. No doubt you went through a LOT, a whole LOT with a backpedaling insurance company and many backhand comments on the internet from people with little knowledge and a mouth full of opinions. I work a regularly with acetone in my various projects and had no idea just how flammable acetone could be. I'll certainly take far more care when handling and discarding the rags soaked with the stuff. Best wishes to you two and I'm sure you'll have some great adventures on the new vessel.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for the comments Matthew and we have all learnt important stuff out of the catastrophe!!! Thanks for your support.

[@roberthandlon1877]

Thanks for the info, glad no one was seriously injured. I’m concerned about the insurance companies when it comes to boat liability insurance. It seems like I’ve heard many stories about insurance companies drawing out the payout process. I’ve only had auto and homeowner experience with insurance companies and it has always gone smoothly. Anybody have any info on boat insurance, Ellie just said they were going to cover this on the next episode. Thanks

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Hi again Robert, yes the next episode will we will about our journey with this claim and the one after that will be about how get a good insurance policy and the things to watch for...

[@giterdunpete]

You just proved the Aussie spirit is alive.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Good to show the world what Aussies are made of, Pete!!! Aussies have such a good reputation around the world as being nice people and we are glad to reinforce that a bit too.

[@PA96704]

Thank you for sharing and educating.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Glad it was helpful, PA!

[@Phillydrumsimc]

So sorry for you, but glad it all worked out.🎉

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thank you, Phil!

[@wiredgorilla]

Well done guys!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for your support!

[@dgmcginty]

This was the first installment I have watched presented by you two. I am way better off then when I started. I will be around

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Great, enjoy the journey dg!

[@coolhand66]

Thank you for that wonderful video well that's why you have to be so careful with flammables in side of a boat. Most people don't realize how important it is to air your bilges out before you start your engines especially if it's a gasoline engine. That's why it's really important to have good bilge fans in the bilge. When you step on your boat first thing you do is flip on your fans second thing you do is you open up the hatch to your engine Bays 10 minutes a good 10 minutes of that start your engines then you can close your Bays and turn off your fans. Because it's enclosed spaces you're just asking for problems if there's any chemicals down there gasoline especially or other types of combustible accelerates. The other thing it's really important that I have on my boat is a fire system with two fire extinguishers on either side of my bilge that if a fire happens and these things will go off automatically and dump enough extinguisher into the bilge to put out any type of fire

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Very wise advice Coolhand. Thanks very much.

[@geoffreym2769]

Your loss of this lovely boat was one of the final reasons i chose to start building a aluminum boat, So I've started building a Mumby Cyber 48 catamaran. I love the positive outlooks and message you have.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Good on you Geoff! The aluminium also survives so much better if you hit rocks, containers etc... Fibreglass just falls apart! Where are you building your Mumby?

[@geoffreym2769]

@@barefootdoctorssailing8567 I'm building it in New Zealand I plan to sail 6 months of the year, there are many reason for choosing the Mumby design including rock hitting resilience. Speed was one as well, I was lucky enough to sail with two friend's from NZ to Norfolk island and to Gold coast on a Mumby 48, what a lovely boat it is.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Yes its a great design and excellent performance and so many excellent features - shallow draft, beachable etc!

[@gdiup9241]

So glad no one lost life. An accident is usually a couple/few little things adding up to a catastrophe. Good lessons learned, hopefully JC and contractors will change protocols. So many hands in the pot following something like this. Hope insurance paid out to make ppl whole. There's always trolls. I adore your outlook and patience. It wasn't easy mentally for sure. Looking forward to your next episode.

[@gdiup9241]

Also sounds like active air flow in the hull would be good if using chemical with heavy vapors.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Cheers for the positive message , I am sure that all of the parties involved have learned a great deal over this ordeal.... I know we have!

[@jimpeterspeters176]

Long time since i last commentated guys :) i know from my own past how difficult how it can be with insurance companies ! quick to take your money ! but have a claim !! as you have found out ! fact its now sorted ! and you seem happy with the result ? if you have lost ? in your estimate of the real value or things they refused to pay on ! well for me i think i would be chasing the company who its now proven caused the fire ! and who should carry the insuance to cover this event !what ever im so pleased for you that there is at last a result ! congrats guys and fair winds :) as ever love from jolly jimbo from Germany :) look forward to your next adventures once you have thenew boat :) x

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks very much Jimbo for your support and understanding from your own experiences... We will go through the claim process and what we ended up with and what we lost - and the reason we stopped chasing in court.

[@warrenpowell6570]

Awesome episode! I have tremendous respect for both of you. I am glad it is finally resolved. Thanks for sharing this with us ! 😊

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks again, Warren! Thanks for the kind words.

[@outsidethelinessailing]

Love you two! Thank you for sharing! #relentlesslyfollowyourdreams

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Our pleasure and thanks for watching!

[@greatpix]

BTW, VERY good tips on the dangers of using acetone. I can imagine there's many a viewer with a can or two of the stuff not being used in a safe manner nor stored away properly.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Yes, we hope our experience may save several other boats!

[@tonyacerra2329]

Spontanious combustion. I was working with a friend on his house. He left staining rags in a plastic garbage can. We all got a call late that night the beautiful Victorian house we were nearly finished was a blaze. Horrible sight. He was also under investigation for a while and had to fight the insurance company. Place in a metal can with a lid. It’s said also put in a little water.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for sharing Tony! Sorry for your loss and good point about putting water in the can with the rags....

[@ipc1962]

Muchas Felicidades!!!! Happy new year!!!!🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks IPC!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Muchas Felicidades right back to you!!!!

[@nikolaimariaromanov8384]

Wahoo!!! Good, Better, Best, Never let it rest, Until your Good is Better and your Better, Best Love from Us ❤❤❤

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

🤗 Thanks Guys!!! You are the master of survival though....

[@johndewaard8032]

Congrats guys. That's awsom for you

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks very much John

[@kimchipman524]

Words of Barefoot wisdom.. All the best Luv you both. xx

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for your support, Kim!

[@mojopowersports1925]

what a wonderful couple you are. good times coming your way. it's all about spirit

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks Mojo, kind words from you. We appreciate it very much.

[@KylanHurt]

Glad to hear the two individuals' burns were not that serious

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Yes they were very lucky men!

[@BuzzSargent]

🎄 Thanks for a super episode dealing with complicated and vital topics. 🦋 The information here will save many from disaster in the future. ⛄ Bless You, Have a Magical Day 🍀

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks Buzz and yes, we hope that we prevent many fires and disasters from happening! That will make our experience "worthwhile".... (ie That would be a benefit coming out of it)

[@stephenburrows4250]

Wow! Just wow! Those guys are lucky one (or both of them) didn’t die, I trust they are well on the mend by now. What a great lesson on acetone! (I use very small amount for art from time to time), but all the same - the vagaries & potentials of chemical use. So glad to hear you’ve finally been able to put this behind you! 🎉 Onward & upward guys… 🙏

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks Stephen! We kept focussing on the way forward while tidying up the past...

[@johnphillips8088]

👍🏼great to have closer, too bad it took so long.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks John, you're too right!

[@lrmorrison999]

Thanks for sharing 😊👍

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Our pleasure 😊

[@user-hf4sk2vu2o]

Goodluck guys 👍👍 proud of you!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks very much for your support and your comments!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks Juergen - end of this year for the 52....

[@mishafrog8786]

Interesting that they found the cause of the fire and highlights many aspects of both the build and what buyers carry or store on there boat, Do we need more thought on fire prevention from the build upwards to the parts fitted to stop these fires taking hold so fast , Chemicals in simple things like a dropped ladys nail varnish remover smashed on the floor then leaking into the bilges ( its base is the same as what caused your fire ) degreasers/twp pack paints/thinners all carried in the spare s department Fire prevention has to start with the builders to stop raging fires and heavy smoke , nice to see you went for an alloy boat good thinking and glad everyone is alive and safe.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks for the comments Misha! We will be doing a dedicated fire prevention episode at some stage to cover al later aspects that we have learnt over the years and specifically after this fire... We do consider that the builders could add fire retardants into the resin but it seems that the increased cost makes them think that they lose market share and only if the public demand those things will the "usual" production boats change. Rescue boats and planes use non burning resins so it is POSSIBLE but the "people" need to be demanding it and paying a slight premium....

[@gregsnewyt]

Acetone does not spontaneous combust like polymerizing oils. It does have a very low flash point, the point at which it form vapor, -17c. The vapors are highly flammable and can travel along surfaces to an ignition point as you have shown. However, acetone soaked rags will not combust without a source of ignition.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks Greg for that info but I have been told of first hand stories of paint shops that had rags with acetone spontaneously ignite on several occasions but have not tested it myself. Several of those stories are in the comments here and other videos of our channel. Whether it does or does not, we all agree that you need to be really careful with acetone and keep it in open, well ventilated spaces....

[@chrissnaproll26]

Chuffed it’s sorted, congrats.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks Chris!

[@juergenzenner4219]

Congratulations for the good end and a closed chapter of your life. Now it’s time to look forward and concentrate on the new goals. We can’t wait for the new boat. Thanks for the update

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Yes Juergen, we are very pleased to close the door on the legals!!!! Thanks for your regular comments and support!

[@ralphholiman7401]

I have to say, I have been around boats my whole life (we cruised for two years on our sailboat) and I would have never thought of something like that happening (although it makes perfect sense in retrospect). Two harmless activities that when performed alone are fine, but when performed together, were not fine. That was some really bad luck, but overall, very lucky that no one was seriously injured. And, yeah, once a fire gets going on a fiberglass boat, all the fire department is usually able to do, is save the keel!

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Yes , so amazing it can be completely destroyed and sink in minutes. A lesson for all of us.

[@reverands571]

My Hunter is 34 feet long, and I carry four fire extinguishers, and my smoke detector has a 10 year battery. Acetone is often used to clean up from epoxy. Don't use it. Distilled vinegar dissolves non-hardened epoxy. Much better for your skin, too, than acetone. I used gallons of it, building my catamarans.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

That is a really good process to follow to minimise use of acetone and therefore reduce risk...

[@terrykeever9422]

Very happy your ordeal of Ultra Dash's untimely demise is over and you have your insurance settlement. Smooth sails and fair winds as you cruise the world. Also glad there were no serious personal injuries.

[@barefootdoctorssailing8567]

Thanks Terry!