George- Anyone questioning oak chips doesn't have experience. I've been using them successfully for a couple years for whiskey, rum and tequila. I consistently beat store bought liquor with blind taste tests. I've also replicated a charred barrel by using a torch to char a few of the chips. Obviously you have to run your liquor through a coffee filter before you drink it when you use oak chips. I haven't found a problem with over "oaking". The oak chips give up their flavor pretty quickly. Prior to adding the oak chips run it through a water filter. If you need it smoother add a little glycerin. If a large distillery could get the same results as quickly with the volumes they are dealing with they would. Unfortunately they would suffer for Marketing. It's not going to be as effective to say smoother because of glycerin vs. 30 years of aging. Home distillers have an advantage because of the very small volume of liquor. And, then you can tailor it the way you like. The goal is to create a product you enjoy. It's not to replicate a scaled down process of a distillery. If it tastes good in a couple of months why would you let it sit there for years? Skeptics should taste the product before criticising the process.
@wldtrky384 жыл бұрын
My 1st use of oak chips seemed too much to me. I ran it thru a charcoal filter and it was fine ! After that, I used a few less chips and adjusted my time and am having great success 👍👍
@TheOutlawJesseJames4 жыл бұрын
I watch all your videos, going way back! Very grateful for all you do. Folks, I thought I had a stuck fermentation today, called George and he answered right away. It was stupid simple... it was just done super fast. Duh. Thanks George!
@robertwright44203 жыл бұрын
George, you’re truly the “Mad Scientist of Fermentation” in this video! Thanks much, it was very informative.
@georgecolby74884 жыл бұрын
I had to laugh at 25:15, that face when smelling the stressed yeast! Love your videos George. The passion for science is so evident in your presentations, its contagious. If I could like your videos 100 times each I would. Cheers from another George up here in Maine!
@williammarkle32994 жыл бұрын
Love it George. I know the outcomes of yeast experiments. Its good to see you hit this. Yeast and Temperature are the KEYS in a two tumbler lock. Now k knowing the quantities requires experience, where by, you read the instructions on the yeast packet and do what it says. [Love the videos thanks for your work. ]
@KYLE-jm6tr Жыл бұрын
Thak you so much for taking the time to educate us on home distilling. I love your videos. Thank you for showing me the ropes. Look forward to a new video or a farewell sign off.
@chuckdontknowdoya61004 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on breaking 60K George can't wait to see the live streaming show I'm already drooling in anticipation. A couple of years ago I found a O2 concentrator cheap at an estate sale since then I use it with a stainless steel air stone to enrich my mash before I pitch my yeast they really love it and I have to leave enough head space to keep my fermentation in the container and to keep my temperature at 77° sometimes requires ice cubes made from boiled bread yeast which I use for food and might be an idea for the show. As always an excellent video with a lot of very useful information thank you sir and Happy Happy Stillin.
@grayco28534 жыл бұрын
Mr Duncan you produce the best you tube videos that I have ever watched. You are interesting and entertaining. Congratulations on 60k.
@knuckle474 жыл бұрын
Just watching more great videos of yours and I am looking at the comments. 3 months ago you had 60K subscribers so today...you are gaining 10,000 subscribers a month ! Congratulations sir.... your teaching methods are so successful, you should be grinning from ear to ear
@robertbeliveau16924 жыл бұрын
This was a great lesson in yeast stall and kill ! I mentioned a couple months ago that I would love to see you do a comparison of the different types/brands of yeast in order to assess their alcohol percent ability all starting at equal temps time lengths , etc. many folks are seeking the highest % they can reach and of course going too high surpasses the pallet ability and moves on into the fuel category. So in an effort to keep the results practical for what our purposes are, we could probably shoot for a control of 50% . I hope that seems like a worthy experiment for your interest in making an episode on it. Thanx George !
@deezynutz47424 жыл бұрын
Another great vide George, happy distilling
@gatesl30542 жыл бұрын
First attempt today with corn mash and Yeast thanks for all the great videos and info. hope it ferments soon.
@wldtrky384 жыл бұрын
Very interesting results. Thanks George !
@rickmilkovic4 жыл бұрын
Mr.Duncan, congrats on bustin 60k.Looking forward to the live stream.✌
@buggyridge4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations George! I've learned much from you and have had great successes. Thank you.
@pgprentice4 жыл бұрын
Another awesome educational video. How do yeasts effect the flavour of a fermentation? Not only for a wash but beer and wine too? Maybe not a topic for the live show but maybe a separate video? Congrats on the 60K subs! You deserve a million!
@petermcmurtrie4 жыл бұрын
Good work on the explanation for Yeast Starters, I have always made a starter and have never been let down yet. Looking forward to the live stream George 👍 I'll be there. 🙂 Cheers Pete
@camtwo14663 жыл бұрын
I got a new comparison challenge for you George....I found that yeast is very productive with music in both the starter and fermentation phase...I had triple bubble belchers per second going on for 3 straight days maintaining an 86 temp using DADY w/some nutrients. Started one in total silence and put it in total isolation and its bubbling steady but its not as powerful and as steady as the control thats rocking out....Great informational vid...........
@2galsfarmworks4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video George! I always learn soooooo much. Interesting study on yeast and temp. Thanks
@marccampbell3124 жыл бұрын
hey George, what about on your live show you maybe tell us more about "George" ....he seems to have some chemistry back ground and i think i picked up some mention of ex military???? maybe just me, but i'm interested in knowing more about the man behind the awesome vids. I really liked the laid back show of you and the Kiwi and the bearded one did. was nice to see the relaxed down to earth sort of show/chat. you get to know more when u get to see whats behind someone. Keep up the good work mate, a very satisfied "new aussie brewer"
@ThePr8head4 жыл бұрын
Worked like a champ!!! The yeasties were churning and happy when we pitched them. Cheers George!
@wildmanbsteamshovel54654 жыл бұрын
Thanks George really loves your videos one of you biggest Aussie fans
@wldtrky384 жыл бұрын
Happy Distilling George ! I'm hoping to catch your FAVORITE Scotch recipe soon 😉 Congrats on 60k subs. Thanks for all you do !!
@petercatto97954 жыл бұрын
hello George Peter here Australia you're my new best friend on KZbin
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
Cheers mate
@magnificent00784 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Keep up the good work George
@mannye4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Thanks for this!
@mattcero13 жыл бұрын
Hi George. One topic to consider are the different methanol test videos out there. There's an Asian guy burning and getting a yellow flame and saying it's ethanol. I sent you the links and it would be nice to show people there is bad information out there. Thanks George. I'll be distilling my first time this weekend sir thanks to you motivating me in the end.
@ericberardinelli34154 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Congrats in 60k and cant wait for the live stream. Happy distillin' 👍
@dannylee91384 жыл бұрын
Spring and summer is coming how about some fruit moonshine. Congratulations on 60k .Happy Distilling
@doobie32784 жыл бұрын
You knocked it out the park with this one. I’ve struggled for so long just throwing a bunch of sugar in a jar and waiting till the water got to 90° to pitch my yeast. Smdh now I see where I been messing up lol
@stillworksandbrewing4 жыл бұрын
Great vid George congrats on 60k looking forward to live stream
@mikeduffer68584 жыл бұрын
George; Have you ever used a stir plate to build your yeast? I built one from a computer fan, a cigar box and a couple a magnets. Worked great..
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
I don't video that because everyone doesn't have a stir plate and the real benefit is debatable
@chrisbaxter29964 жыл бұрын
Keep em rolling George before you know it I will be edjumicated. love the videos man!
@silver-hy6mi4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on subscriber numbers! Great explanation on temp stats on yeast!
@michaelcastaneda51432 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the information you us
@tedr354 жыл бұрын
Great video.... Since you're asking, I'd like to see your methods for attaining proper PH and ways to control it during fermentation.
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
good idea.
@markal30234 жыл бұрын
Wow another 27 thousand subscribers in 8 weeks. Congratulations.
@bobhope57734 жыл бұрын
Hi George, congratulations on 60K subscribers!!I would like to ask what is the name of the old timer who sings the song about moonshine at the start of your videos and what is the name of the track? Thanks for all your help and information in your videos, I'm working my way through them and I find them very informative and enjoyable! All the best Bob
@TheOutlawJesseJames4 жыл бұрын
Bob Hope it’s George Tucker. Here’s a link: minutesinmedia.pbworks.com/w/page/45695143/Kentucky%20Moonshiner%20Lyrics
@bobhope57734 жыл бұрын
@@TheOutlawJesseJames Cheers and many thanks that really helps! Have yourself a great day :D
@hattrick1974tube3 жыл бұрын
This channel is binge worthy...
@terryankevmiller4704 жыл бұрын
Hi George you explain things so well really enjoy your program
@michaelzecher75224 жыл бұрын
George, Happy Distilling. I have leaned so much from your channel. Love to see a show on how different gains in a grain bill effect the end tastes in moonshine before aging. Thank You for all your hard work teaching everyone the art of distilling.
@patmancrowley85094 жыл бұрын
George, you have taught us, in previous video's, that the temperature and pH affect the flavor of the ethanol because of stressing the yeast. One thing that my mind may have missed is this: Having the optimum environment for the yeast can different yeasts, bakers yeast, sour dough yeast, beer yeast, etc, affect the flavor of the product?
@lilymcalister18254 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed!! Hope this helps.🍻
@ianworden14044 жыл бұрын
George, very good video, i love the information that you provide, but i do have one question, once you take whiskey off the wood or out of a barrel does it continue to age with time.
@byfaithalone35294 жыл бұрын
Your awesome I learn so much from your videos
@larissahough81924 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen a episode on pectin haze yet? A diagram would be nice with what's happening at a molecular level
@lilymcalister18254 жыл бұрын
Pectin haze...is exactly as it sounds. Your product is hazey and not clear at all. When you add your yeast you can also add "pectic enzyme". Like about a half tsp. if your making up a gallon of wash to ferment. It really keeps the drink nice and clear. You can pick it up in any homebrew store or amazon or ebay. I hope this helps. LilyMarlaina 🌷 Happy distilling!! "Bearded & Bored" briefly spoke about it in his "make liquor in your freezer" video (Applejack vid.) He has a great channel too.
@lynleland4 жыл бұрын
Thank you George for that great video
@trinitywinecountrytours99414 жыл бұрын
George, I fell asleep did the yeast come alive ha-ha you are the best teacher. I have made some good whiskey. Thank you
@philiptruitt4 жыл бұрын
Thank you George!
@the69batman694 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you make Honey Shine
@markhenry6816 Жыл бұрын
I love this guy great content funny too
@LestonDr4 жыл бұрын
Little confused. Was the purpose to demonstrate proofing the yeast before pitching or maintaining temperature of the mash while it is percolating?
@jamesaubrey19654 жыл бұрын
Hey just checking to see if you have ever tried to use grass clippings to get alcohol. Especially now with the shortage on hand sanitizer. Thanks
@humanonearth13 жыл бұрын
When you shook them at about 19 min. You could take the lid off for a bit and reintroduce some oxygen. My guess is they are still in the aerobic phase.
@billc37674 жыл бұрын
Mornin' George, have you considered making a magnetic mount for a thermocouple in the thermowell of a fast ferment? That would allow the use of a PID and heating pad to precisely control fermentation temp for beer and wine.
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
Yes I have
@eyetok_alot Жыл бұрын
already more than a year ago that we had our last video, and still 174k subs. i realy hope all is ok with george, and maybe we will get 1 more live stream in the future
@leighhankins68853 жыл бұрын
Will a ferment continue to work in a room at 65 degrees f ? Or should I ad a heater? Or just expect it to take longer, dam few bubbles. First timer ( bucket list ) lol.
@coreybentley69884 жыл бұрын
U do great videos very helpful I have learned alot definitely help my distilling am wanting to know how to hit 20 abv thanks
@lori96564 жыл бұрын
hopefully we are close to 5.2 PH but the metre we purchased only went to 6.4 but add subtract, guesstimate and hope your in the area lol cheers
@realchristopher43343 жыл бұрын
Hello George. About pitching and collecting/harvesting yeast, when is the 'best' time to do so? Some brewers and scientists say it is late lag/exponential phase (or post-diauxic) but before stationary phase. How the heck can I know when that is? My educated guess is when bubbling is slowing to a crawl.
@staysaforever37003 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!!!!!
@robertbeliveau16924 жыл бұрын
Found myself saying out loud, “ better pop them caps George !”
@athomewithzeke50484 жыл бұрын
I found your channel a few days ago and was delighted to find that you're also in Central Texas. I stopped by your shop today but it was closed, have you moved?
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
I sold it years ago. The owners closed a few months back
@nickgiesler99253 жыл бұрын
will I be able to brew in an outdoor environment (uninsulated shed). I would expect temperatures ranging from freezing at the lowest in winter and 80 or 90 degrees in the summer. I want to make a larger volume and don't have space inside.
@jaybirdwolfe2774 жыл бұрын
Hey gang..question.... If I'm starting at 5.2 ph and plan to add a can of tomato paste a) what kind of tomato paste should I use..as in brand type and regular or garlic and herbs ect. And b) how much will my ph change to if I add 1 can and what is the ph differences between each brand of paste? Also wondering what if I then add cracked corn say...7lbs in 5 gallon wash how much will each pound affect ph added to the type of paste and then I add 3/4 of a lemon, what will my final ph be???????? Pls help quick !!!!!
@footstepsinchina2994 жыл бұрын
Have you done any experiments with saving yeast? I am thinking of trying to keep a culture and make my own yeast balls.
@donraffa27734 жыл бұрын
Question : I would like to make grappa from the spent grapes. We pressed 15 cases of grapes and I’m not sure how sugar, water and yeast to re fur ment. Can you help me with this?? Thank you
@evinchester78204 жыл бұрын
So...heating the still...there are like three ways from what I see. Fire aka open flame Heating element inside the still Induction range What are you all's take on these?
@cryptoponics4 жыл бұрын
@Evin Chester Also fully jacketed and coil jacketed are two more types of indirect heating (jacketed) where an oil (typically) is circulated in the jacket and heated and the oil heats the kettle and the contents of the kettle so it's a type of indirect heating. The types you listed are all direct heating examples. +1 :)
@1boortzfan4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on 60K. As a starter how about going back to the beginning on how to make a strong sweet red wine on a budget.
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
May be a good one
@AINewsdigital4 жыл бұрын
Great sir
@ScottHelm4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on 60k! Happy Distilling
@1SGCurt4 жыл бұрын
Why are you heating it to 110 degrees when most of the recipes I've seen say don't pitch the yeast until it drops to 75 degrees?
@dannyboy422234 жыл бұрын
So if I'm listening correctly the room temp didn't get a cake as all the yeast hydrated? Great video btw!
@unicornmit Жыл бұрын
Fermentation will take how many days?
@kellyreed99744 жыл бұрын
60k way to go George, loved the video. Spit my coffee out when you said tastes like ass...to funny
@dannylee91384 жыл бұрын
It would be awesome to make a pid controlled fermenter box to hold 5 gallon buckets
@rocketsroc4 жыл бұрын
Happy Distilling 60K! What is the sense of doing a starter jar of yeast using some of the mash? I just pitch the yeast directly into the mash and let it go while maintaining a constant temperature of 78 degrees F + - a degree. My yeast is never stressed and the odor is pleasant from start to finish. One question: Is there any need to stir the mash once it is fermenting?
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
A very good technique. Thanks
@susanbarbour34314 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I found you
@lori96564 жыл бұрын
so first time off to the races....my hydrometer was 120 more than 1.090 you wre discussing but not a bad thing? Cheers
@user-sr5xp7hv6c4 жыл бұрын
New subscriber. Thank you for doing this it is very educational. And have you ever tried a jalapeño mash?
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
Yes I have
@user-sr5xp7hv6c4 жыл бұрын
Great how did it come out and did you do any flavoring after words. Mine had a jalapeño odor after but no flavor.
@bungie383 жыл бұрын
how long do i need to let my oak chips stay in the jar?
@sarahpalmer74 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@deepblueyonderspage4 жыл бұрын
Odd ball question... not sure you would either need it, or that it would make a discernable difference.. but is there a safe additive you could add to your mash that would act as a natural "surfactant" to aid the yeast along? Keep them from floating in cooler temperatures etc... Just a random thought that came to mind. I'm probably completely over thinking the whole process.
@ShinerShane4 жыл бұрын
I use a space heater...
@williammarkle32994 жыл бұрын
In my beer making days the "surfactant" was temp for a slice of time. Hitting the goals of strike temp, rise temp through ranges in a given period and hold for style. Light body, heavies, darks, clears. This produced the best fermentables for the style of beer yeast chosen to kick in. So I think this is the same. Read the package of yeast do what is described. Hit and hold your Temps. and why not just go on and make a 1/2 gallon starter. Rapid starts and fast ferments never go bad!
@sj-bs2tw4 жыл бұрын
Just added over the shelf lemon juice to reduce water PH and guess what? It had preservatives so there is no bubbling. Is there any way to not to dump it?
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
Don't worry about that. Keep going now that you have the PH adjusted.
@pjquigley70664 жыл бұрын
have looking some barrels is Australia & can you send me the price for 2 your ones
@peterstewart61864 жыл бұрын
At what time does the lids pop on these jars lol
@barryliebenberg82724 жыл бұрын
hi great info, what is the yeast nutrient? you used
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
Fermax
@renejeremiassen27574 жыл бұрын
Hi there from greenland here... Ok, the question is, there's only one type of yeast to buy in Greenland and it's baking yeast, can i use it to make moonshine of it?
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
Yes you can. Temper your expectations for results when using bakers yeast. It sometime stalls early. Sometime it doesn't
@renejeremiassen27574 жыл бұрын
@@BarleyandHopsBrewing and how much yeast should I use for, let's say 10 liter of sugar wash? And thanks for answering my question
@rezganger Жыл бұрын
the yeast dont need extra nutrients right away. just like you and me dont need to eat vitamins every hour,but instead once a day,if at all. the test was designed to fail. no offense. love your channel.i watch videos just to have you in the background,even!
@billcardiff704 жыл бұрын
Do you make a podcast ? Something downloadable to listen on a commute I mean.
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
Did a podcast last night on Homebrewing DIY. It will post on Thursday. I will send the link tot he subscribers of this channel.
@ambrosecampbell69263 жыл бұрын
Smart. Funny. In depth. Tells you how to fix mistakes. Spreading yeast to max but expect slow returns. Nutrient matters. Feed hard fast results. Low temps will slow severely converting sugars. Lots more little tidbits bits....... My Idea: DELUTE IT ALL WAIT 28 DAYS AND DISTILL IT. DISTILL AGAIN. BRITA WATER FILTER 10X.. Add fruit for flavor desired. Freak Nasty Crispiness!
@corygillis31234 жыл бұрын
Will subscribers receive a notification about when the live stream is!?
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Subscribe and click the notification icon and you will be notified. I have been sending out information to subscribers over the past few days.
@jimlove45413 жыл бұрын
George I know this is late to the game but I got to tell You give a kid a Mason jar and some sugar water yeast and heat and my friend you have created a chemist/micobioligist. THANK YOU.
@Tony-i7i4 жыл бұрын
I have a question I am interested in the craft but I am an over the road truck driver so I don’t have much time at home I will be home in two weeks and I was wondering if I could/should buy some everclear alcoholometer and run it through a brita water purifier then cut it with spring water could I accomplish the results in product as a starter to get my feet wet without a huge upfront investment
@robertlewis33364 жыл бұрын
Tony, I have no idea what you just said.
@CP-od7tr4 жыл бұрын
@@robertlewis3336 Yeah, that is out there.
@ShinerShane4 жыл бұрын
The answer is Yes, you could. You would be kinda missing the point of the entire channel though.
@williammarkle32994 жыл бұрын
I had to read your question a few times before I understood its nature. Yes learning how to cut your product is extremely important. Yes buy the meter. Yes play around. Grab some wood chips, jolly ranchers and small jars. Play with it. You can buy flavors a few drops and its like your favorite. Taste it before you filter and after. (you know they already ran it through a few filters right) This is not a simple thing to under take. Loads, truck loads of time are needed to do this. If your are really thinking of trying distilling build a quick down an dirty still for around a hundred bucks. I'll sell you a condensing arm for like $20. Even better I build an apparatus entirely for $150. But you see this channel is about YOU doing it. Heat a sealed container, stack some gasses, condensate, and collect. Read a couple books and build one.
@Tony-i7i4 жыл бұрын
William Markle thank you for your answer William that was very helpful because I travel a lot and I am only home for 6 separated weeks out of a 52 week year. I obviously don’t have the time right now to go through the entire process even though I watch and subscribe to and appreciate this Chanel I was simply wondering if there was a way that I could try some of this with the limited time that I have at home because I always work perhaps one day I’ll be afforded the time to invest in the start to finish but I am currently still in a coddiwomple state of life no happy brewing foreseen in my near future but happy distilling to you
@crazymorales91704 жыл бұрын
George what is your moonshiners intro song called i want to hear the full song
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3LFf6t_a9GWbZY
@barrytipton11794 жыл бұрын
CRAZY MORALES I don’t lol
@lifuranph.d.17164 жыл бұрын
Sugar question: Does cane sugar or beet sugar work equally well for a wash or addition to mash ?
@CP-od7tr4 жыл бұрын
Go to his home page and search sugar.
@ShinerShane4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Cane sugar is great, I use it religiously. Beet sugar is about 85% fermentable. It will leave some residual sweetness, it works out very nice in a brandy.
@lifuranph.d.17164 жыл бұрын
@@ShinerShane Thank you.
@williammarkle32994 жыл бұрын
Sugar, Sugar, you are my candy girl and you've got me wanting you. Why on why is it so sweet as it drips then later,, its just hot.
@cryptoponics4 жыл бұрын
@@williammarkle3299 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKrafJJrl7lrsJI Thanks for the memory. Love this song...... @LI, FU RAN, Ph.D. I will add your question to the factFinders section on the CryptoPonics YT channel for testing / proving since I am curious as well.
@andyharris30844 жыл бұрын
So is it recommended to do a starter before pitching into the fermenter?
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
You can. Many skip this step because they trust that their yeast is viable. A starter is a good way to ensure your yeast is active.
@andyharris30844 жыл бұрын
Thanks George
@andyharris30844 жыл бұрын
@@BarleyandHopsBrewing I assume your use the same amount of yeast and nutrient as you designed for the larger wash even though it is in a smaller container?
@billyclark73414 жыл бұрын
GEORGE I DANCE ALL AROUND THE RIGHT INGREDIENTS IN MY MASH,CAN YOU TELL ME THE AMOUNT OF INGREDIENTS IN A 32GAL RUN PLEASE, THANKYOU IN ADVANCE ,HAPPY BREWING
@billyclark73414 жыл бұрын
O yeah George it's a corn mash,
@kellysmith80354 жыл бұрын
George I am a beginner looking for my first still. I’m looking for a 5 to 8 gal still on a budget lol any suggestions
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
Search on line at places like Brewhaus and Mile Hi
@kellysmith80354 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks
@norwoodgreeneiii12364 жыл бұрын
Shhh, Y'all...class is in session!
@barrytipton11794 жыл бұрын
Can u please add centigrade and more abv in uk we are now in centigrade any views on turbo yeasts and carbon or is it snake oil
@BarleyandHopsBrewing4 жыл бұрын
I use a calculator to convert measurements. You could save yourself some time and do the same thing. In most videos I do both but believe it or not I may get the 4th digit after the decimal and someone from Europe will call me out on it.