Flying To SC, Communication Pet Peeves

[@BaronPilot]

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[@michaelwilder9395]

As a controller, I always appreciated when a pilot reported leaving their altitude for their crossing restriction or PD descent. We are human and do make mistakes. It gave me a chance to scan once more just in case I missed something. Or maybe a VFR popped up between the time I issued the clearance and the time you started your descent.

[@avfan967]

You’re probably in a league of your own for the most part. Can’t tell you how many times I’m given a crossing restriction, I calculate the TOD and BOD, then at TOD report vacating and a good percentage of the time the controller doesn’t even respond, other times they seem totally annoyed, and a few guys, perhaps you, acknowledge it with a “Roger”

[@michaelwilder9395]

@@avfan967 Regardless of the controller’s reaction, I guarantee you, he or she did another traffic scan. That’s what you want.

[@avfan967]

@@michaelwilder9395 Yes sir, I agree with that well maybe I should say, I hope so! :-)

[@scottromanos7483]

It is also a recommended practice in the AIM (5-3-3.a.1.a - Additional reports). Has been as long as I’ve been flying, which is 37 years. Personally, I agree it’s mostly unnecessary in a radar environment and I hear the occasional tone from the annoyed controller, but it’s still a recommendation, so…

[@kylethorne9363]

I'm waiting for Kim to pull out a turkey leg and a gallon of tea for snack. I can hear her telling ATC to hold on, she's having a snack. LOL

[@MartyBecker]

At non-controlled airports, saying, “Any aircraft in the area, please advise.”

[@timsterns490]

I recently heard a Citation at an uncontrolled airport, holding short for departure make the “any traffic” call. If you think about a fast mover blasting up through an uncontrolled pattern, this call might make some sense. What do you think?

[@gtm624]

OMG YES! because If there’s multiple aircraft that respond at the same time you hear one or nothing. Excellent point!

[@joshparkey2018]

I’m guilty of that one. I started my flight training at an uncontrolled FBO and they said it so naturally I carried it with me.

[@gtm624]

Omg I heard someone say this yesterday. I wanted to key in and say something like “I advise you to not say any area in the aircraft please advise”. But I felt that was out of line so I didn’t. They sounded young too. Who is teaching this???? Please stop. What’s anyones thoughts. Is that out of line to say something like that to someone when you hear it?

[@PDLiggett]

Awesome flight...Downtown Greenville is really great. My wife and I just had a weekend at the Grand Bohemian on the river downtown. Beautiful hotel close to all that excellent downtown food. Hope y'all enjoyed! ~Pete (Columbia, SC)

[@mark6121]

Aaaaaaaaaaaand, got him on the fish finder, here’s your flash, 4776 in the box, 29.92 on the meter, and any traffic please advise. Glad I got that off my chest 😂

[@flyingsic]

Lol

[@nicolasbilal8769]

In the box is fine, all the others tho, I hate those

[@avfan967]

I hear ya brah!! All true!

[@JeremyMyersmusic]

Number one radio communication pet peeve. "all traffic in the area please advise"

[@knndyskful]

My niece lives near Greenville, I’ve seen those water falls, it’s a neat town/city

[@akinnyz]

“Last call” is top of my list along with “please advise”

[@andrewhostetter8349]

Isn’t last call advised in the AIM? I didn’t used to do it then read online somewhere that it was recommended so I started doing it ha

[@jcburleigh]

@@andrewhostetter8349 Seems to be controversial. Decided to do it because I read (also online) that it's helpful for area traffic to know to not expect further position reports. Not sure HOW helpful, but it's two extra words, so....

[@ScottGarrison715]

Hey Guys! Glad to see you visit my hometown. Sorry it was so windy that day. Usually pretty calm here. Hope you enjoyed Greenville.

[@kevincollins8014]

I totally agree with you on not ripping on someone for a minor flaw because I know I'm FAR from perfect and room for growth and learning. Before ripping on someone i always try to put myself in their shoes. Maybe they are on their first solo and extremely nervous or just a new pilot. Love the videos guys thanks as always for bringing us along with you.

[@eagle2019]

Have you added the weight of that "Rock" on the W&B!!! Congratulations!!!

[@danielbasovitch5087]

I was just in GREER SC, I picked up an RV and we took it to SC00 for the Joe Nall Week of R/C Giant Scale Fly In. It was GREAT !

[@winky32174]

Kim is getting really competent in the cockpit! She'll make a fantastic pilot!!!

[@spelldaddy5386]

I'd say my two biggest ones are when reading back an altimeter saying "06" instead of "3006", and leaving info like callsign or runway out of readback

[@MichaelLloyd]

I really enjoyed the In the Hangar video. The spring winds up here (KFMN) have been brutal. Between that and moderate turbulence that never seems to go away it's been hard to find a good day to fly. If I was going somewhere, I'd fly (if safe) but it's hard to get motivated to fly in a bounce house just for fun. I'm moving back to TX in another week. I'll miss the C172RG that I've been flying. The rate for a C172 in TX is the same as the C172RG here :/ and it's an hour plus drive to get to an airport that has rentals vs 30m here. Oh well, it's better than being stuck on the ground.

[@tommytownsend6716]

Greenville is where I soloed way back in 1979….and my hometown……love the video

[@bradolsen8629]

There is the sweet little cutie again lol she makes my heart job with joy

[@KellyBradyPilot]

Love Greenville. Next time go to Downtown KGMU, Great cafe located at the South Ramp, UBER into downtown. GREAT PLACE indeed!!!

[@perrybpilot]

My new comms favorite......... "its a push-to-talk button NOT a push-to-think button" !!!!!!!LOL Thanks for consistently leading us to improve by example! I was hoping to catch you guys at the Beech Bash in the Bluegrass last weekend. Maybe at the next Beech gathering.......

[@tucksmith8300]

That’s a nice little flight

[@er1ce]

My pet peeve is not so much a radio call, but using the term "yaw dampener." The correct term is "yaw damper." Dampen means to make something wet -- damp is to stop the oscillation or vibration.

[@thomaslyens7981]

I believe the AIM used to require pilots to report leaving altitudes which would include crossing restrictions or pilot discretion descents. These reports made more sense back when there was more controlled airspace that included non-radar environments.

[@avfan967]

You are correct sir, anytime you vacate an altitude on an IFR flight you are required

[@scottromanos7483]

The AIM still recommends that.

[@marty7935]

Love the flyingsic’s travel mug 😀. I want one. Lol

[@patrickheavirland3599]

Hello from Minnesota! Just saw you guys on Taking Off! This was my first video. I'm a fan!

[@BaronPilot]

Hi Patrick! Welcome to the channel. We are glad you enjoyed it. 🍻

[@navycranes]

I took about a 10 year break from flying and some time during those 10 years "with you" became this taboo phrase. I swear, 10 years ago EVERYONE said it. Maybe pilots that flew that whole time didn't notice the gradual discontinuation but I definitely noticed.

[@bigalbbq4597]

I'm right there....with you. lol Hard habit to break, for me anyway.

[@geraldturner9764]

Bro lives in Anderson SC. That is a great area.

[@andrewbainton4139]

Enjoying the series and all your videos in general as always! Had to put my shades on with the glare from Kim's bling though...nice rock! love moose

[@whale75]

Always good way to push through a Friday, thanks to you both for the great content

[@mikeschultze3135]

My biggest pet peeves is at uncontrolled airports and the pilot reports 7 mile straight in when people are in the traffic pattern. Then reports 6 more times on final expecting people to get out of the way.

[@jcheck6]

Disagree Mike. 6 or more times might be overdoing it but I am adjusting my pattern entry/speed/base turn based on the straight in's position.

[@allensang1267]

It is great when ATC knows who you are cuz friends in high places can’t hurt. Regarding the nomenclature of “checking in” not sure I agree. Suggestion, why don’t you get with 310 pilot who is ATC and do a discussion about that ? That would be a great v log.

[@alexmikhael5061]

19:40 hey, have you ever asked if the MILITARY aircraft needs to do a ''excersize'' and need your assissasstance??? :) I mean if they needed to vector in to formation to get physical visual verification of pilot (hold up a card with number nummeroftheday on it) for the excersize... ?? LOL wait, eh... just would be fun sittin there and having 2 F16s come alongsides for ''inspection'' lol

[@cessna177flyer3]

I used to get “intercepted” by Dutch Air Force F-16s when I flew C-5s in the USAF. Always fun. I’ve got some great videos.

[@greghall9141]

Just bought 2004 Baron 58. KLQK.

[@MikeJamesMedia]

Things that get old fast: Introducing every radio call with "And..."

[@nicolasbilal8769]

I do this, I gotta stop

[@MikeJamesMedia]

@@nicolasbilal8769 No offense. :) I recently watched a live ATC episode where this was happening over and over, and I admit, it bugged me.

[@mikeschultze3135]

I use to add "Ok" at the start of readbacks alot. This was because typically when you key the mic, the first word is cut out in transmission. I tend to do this under high workload environment.

[@MikeJamesMedia]

@@mikeschultze3135 Don't feel bad... I was only ever a low-time private pilot.(abandoned flying for skydiving) You should have heard some of the totally horrible things I screwed up on the radio... mostly due to nerves, around large airports. I think we've all done some of that. :)

[@michaelmanbeck9159]

Outstanding video today as always..Stay safe out there....

[@johnsauer9067]

Always look forward to the next Notification. Excited to see today's latest video. I enjoyed it, as always. Thanks.

[@garylavieri2402]

Nice flight. My airplane is over at KCEU(Clemson) just west of GSP. Hope you enjoyed Greenville. Drives me NUTS when a pilot asks what the Active runway is on CTAF, especially when he’s 3 miles out and after I was just reporting my position in the pattern! Obviously wasn’t monitoring CTAF further out!. The other one is when a pilot asks ATC what the active runway is at a Non towered airport !! Yes , I’ve hear that multiple times.

[@jeffdo9195]

Atc calls traffic stupid guy day " I have him on the box" ATC doesn't care they want to know if you see them with your eyes

[@GHRiz]

LOL Note there was /no/ video backup for the alpha bravo... so we know how that one ended ROFL. The only comms thing that I even remotely care about is "for", but not the "5000 for 9000" kind, that's obviously fine for all the reasons you said, but the "127.52 for seven five whiskey" kind, where the for can be slurred into the call sign. Kris said he's changed his comms a lot over the years, and that's definitely one that if you go back a few years, you'll obviously see Kim doing that a bit when she first started, but even Kris used to do it quite a bit too, and both of you have pretty much completely cleaned that one up, so great job on that one!

[@rickyretic]

Kim, is that an engagement ring I've noticed on your finger?? Congratulations , you two have such a great relationship. Many years of happiness, my wife and I are coming up on our 45th anniversary. I have no clue where that time went. lol.

[@dougvinduska9593]

Elaine check the autopilot its starting to fail on the belt line is the tube to inflate it. Ok Striker if you bring this down we will forget about Much Grande, your coming in to hot sound your alarm bell!

[@chrisc161]

Great flight. Always educational. Thank you for sharing.

[@OV1Aviator]

Has this changed? I enjoyed meeting you and Kim at Sun 'n Fun. 5-3-3 Additional Reports a. The following reports should be made to ATC or FSS facilities without a specific ATC request: 1. At all times. (a) When vacating any previously assigned altitude or flight level for a newly assigned altitude or flight level.

[@ronhatcher7734]

well done...good topic.

[@neillmccraw895]

Are you going to be in town for the 2022 Ladies US Open on June 2-5?

[@mikehines4576]

Our daughter is starting a new job in Greenville. We’re moving her over there in the next month. Hopefully we’ll see y’all over there sometime. I really enjoy the videos! Thanks!

[@flyingsic]

Nice! Do you know which area you’re staying in yet?

[@mikehines4576]

@@flyingsic Not yet. Her office is really close to GMU but she’s trying to decide what her best option is, whether to be be downtown and convenient or have the house/yard/dog area… Any advice or opinions would be wonderful! The area is completely new to us.

[@BaronPilot]

Email Kim at [e-mail] and she will give you some feedback.

[@danielbasovitch5087]

Hello Kris, Understand that your son goes to school in SC. Have you been to SC00 (Triple Tree Aerodrome ) for their Fun fly?

[@kirkkephart6615]

We're waiting for the propsal/engagement story you two crazy kids...... Did ya ask while enroute on a trip?

[@gabrielzeifman]

Real pro, start your read back with your call sign. That way we know the right plane took the instruction then can focus on the read back, happens all the time that the wrong plane takes an instruction.

[@coreymcdonald7745]

Kim’s comms are amazing.

[@brucegoldberg3750]

Enjoy the channel, you flew over Chandelle, We met at Pats house. If you get up this way again stop in. If you need contact info, I’ll get in touch. #yeahthatGreenvillle

[@kf8679]

Hi Kris and Kim..great video...on the take off looked like front wheel was light in air?? Heck of a landing wind sheer pushing you good..Kris can we get more of the bad habits pilots make that was informative..Kim was killing those nuts or whatever in the bag of munchies lol 😀👍..Take Care u two..and also your son ...🙏

[@avfan967]

While we’re at all the specifics about radio communications, also keep in mind when you’re given a barometric setting, you don’t need to repeat that setting back to ATC. You’re doing it all the time and it’s completely unnecessary. If you feel the urge to talk, simply say thank you or Roger

[@scottromanos7483]

The ICAO requirement over most of the world is to read back the altimeter setting. In Europe, if you do not, the controllers will continue to give it to you until you read it back. The US is part of ICAO but is not always in lockstep with ICAO in a regulatory sense. In this case, while ICAO requires a read back of the altimeter setting, the US does not. Hence, you will find many pilots who follow the ICAO standard just to keep it consistent.

[@badgermike1231]

I wonder if those F-16's were newly built at the Lockheed plant at GYH.

[@zacharybyers]

I don’t think they’ve completed any at Donaldson yet but I look forward to seeing them buzz around

[@seagullsbtn]

GSP. You flew over me! Basically under four miles from threshold 04.

[@anthonycarter7509]

great video guys

[@May2024-]

WOW F-16! Burdda or Sista at 12:15 noon to 1:00pm if you flying over the Kansas Oklahoma Dallas air messaging saying hey DUFAST it lunchtime justwonderin for a friend no worries nicknamed my forklift FRED “AKA”FIN READY EVERY DAY THEN LUNCHTIME JUSTJOKIN . HAVE A NICE DAY.

[@bigalbbq4597]

My biggest pet peeve is someone else with a similar number. Was nice to say, "niner bravo", until some jerk had to fly with a similar number. The nerve of those people. LOL! Also, very guilty of "with you". Hard for me to break for some reason....possibly cause I should fly more! smh

[@denniscarew2955]

Any traffic in the area please advise at Non tower airport

[@kbalch]

One of my radio call hot buttons is that, on initial contact, the first words spoken should be the name of the facility. In other words, say “Jax center, good morning, 3175W, level at 6,000 (or simply “6,000”),” NOT “Good morning, Jax center, blah, blah, blah.” Perhaps paradoxically, I don’t mind a cordial signoff spoken last, as saying the N-number last has always sounded awkward to me. That is, say “124.56 for 75W. Good day.” NOT “124.56. Good day. 75W” Smoothly delivered, professional comms are a hallmark of competent piloting and will go a long way toward assuring the best possible treatment from ATC.

[@richardkschmidt7436]

A couple more radio pet peeves: * Prefixing a single-digit US runway number with a zero (“runway zero-two, runway zero-five” etc.). There are no leading zeros on US runway numbers. Look at the big numbers painted on the runway, or listen to what ATC uses. * Appending “Last call” when leaving an uncontrolled airport traffic area.

[@johntempleton265]

Some runway directions are ambiguous if you're not paying attention: RWY 20 is opposite RWY 2. I prefer to emphasize what runway I'm intending to use - particularly in calm wind at non controlled airports with a lot of training activity.

[@richardkschmidt7436]

@@johntempleton265 Aeronautical Information Manual 4-3-6. Use of Runways/Declared Distances. Runways are identified by numbers which indicate the nearest 10-degree increment of the azimuth of the runway centerline. For example, where the magnetic azimuth is 183 degrees, the runway designation would be 18; for a magnetic azimuth of 87 degrees, the runway designation would be 9. Note, NOT zero-nine.

[@andyc6914]

I learned at a non controlled airport with runway 20/2 config….common use of runway “02” - no harm, not a lot of extra verbiage, and provides immense clarification - what’s the issue? It’s not overly wordy….

[@richardkschmidt7436]

@@andyc6914 It's non-standard and conflicts with the obvious runway markings and ATC communications. But, I guess it makes you sound extra cool.

[@andyc6914]

@@richardkschmidt7436 nothing about adding a zero sounds cool. My experience is that many folks state runway 20 as 2….it’s very common. Key word - uncontrolled airports. This is not adding a 0 to a ATC read back. This is a minor addition that clarifies a lot. People take the AIM as gospel. I don’t believe it’s perfect. There is a reason it’s stated in the AIM and not a FAR.

[@yellowdeer7163]

I almost lost my Enchiladas on that take off. I'm ok now.....9000 feels good.

[@flysport_tedder]

5:40 sort of the reverse of asking you to copy a phone number.

[@rickkennerly2379]

I always thought “with you” or “checking-in” was mostly to confirm to the pilot that he had dialed in the right frequency. I’ve heard the scramble to contact a pilot who accidentally dialed in the wrong freq before. it wasn’t pretty.

[@jcburleigh]

It's just those extra two words; the checkin still happens, it's just about who am I calling (e.g. JAX CTR), what am I flying (tail number), and at what altitude. That's the checkin. But I hear the extra "with you" or occasionally "checking in", and nobody seems to mind, takes only about one extra second. (One of my CFIIs "encouraged" me to become more concise in my comms with ATC last week; so, while those particular phrases aren't in my comms vocabulary, I'm working on dropping other unnecessary redundant extra phrases.)

[@backswing7221]

AHHHHHHHH or UMMMMMMMM are my favourites bad communication habits.

[@jakecostello8400]

My two Got ‘em in the box, and any traffic in the area please advise

[@stana2z]

I get the "pet peeves" on radio COMMs. Had to learn same on USN Vessels... There's definitely a "grammar" to it... Like another language. Siera Tango Alpha November... OUT

[@chcr8150]

Just checking in with you, down to 3,000. 🤓

[@sidlambert3105]

My biggest is “citation 123 can I get an airport advisory”. Listen to automated weather and listen to CTAF. You and Steve say “you have a Baron…” at uncontrolled often. Must be a south Florida thing.

[@chcr8150]

Nothing wrong with requesting an advisory if the field has a unicom, can actually be quite helpful for runway in use, etc.

[@billfarnham1592]

Some sporty wind on your landing there!

[@DanielAviles2595]

Love that shirt

[@Th0rity]

Was this recent? Pretty sure you flew over my house close to GSP.

[@davidjackson7405]

Liked the discussion of the words “for” and “to”. These are unfortunately also used with runway numbers, “entering downwind for 3”. That is not runway 43.

[@andyc6914]

Never heard anyone use “to” and also no such thing as a runway that has two digits beginning with 4…

[@godlydevil1]

At a non-towered field. If you say blah, blah, blah and then you say "All other traffic please report" or something similar. My biggest pet peeve.

[@tommytownsend6716]

You guys should have stopped in for lunch…..I told you I’m buying here on SSI.

[@jetdoctn]

I'm guilty myself of when given a crossing restriction of calling atc when I'm starting to descend, it may be clear as you stated but I don't see letting them know I'm vacating an altitude as a bad thing and I have had atc on several occasions when calling them like this delete the restriction and just give me a hard altitude. Likewise saying Comanche xxxxxx climbing through 3000 for 5000 heading xxx is bad on an initial call up especially if I'm still turning. I do my best to stay away from the "with you and checking in". This is really nit picky but my grrr call is when someone says they are "taking the active or taking runway xx for departure." Are you going to bring it back? How long are you taking it for? Ya know some other folks might really want to use while your gone :). Pretty childish I know and my wife reminds me of what an idiot I'am daily. God only knows how often I sound like a bumbling moron on the radio but I do my best not to be "that guy".

[@JohnWilson-ql8ks]

I have not seen you guys for a long while. Is that a wedding ring on Kum's finger??

[@t2green374]

Nice ring. Have you set a date?

[@michaelasavino]

Are you a little right wing heavy? Cause that rock is enormous!!!!

[@gcarter1062]

Next time you’re up this way give me a heads up. I’ll take you guys to dinner.

[@jackthompson8560]

I wish ATC would say tail # and wait for me to respond before just spitting all the freq and squawk at me. I never seem to have my pen in hand. I try to be ahead of the freq #s but it never fails to give one that I didn't write down ahead. I new ppl so over time I will get better but ugh for now.

[@wturn5354]

Unfortunately this procedure would greatly increase the number of ATC transmissions, and when busy the frequency would become saturated and could be a safety hazard.

[@jackthompson8560]

@@wturn5354 I know, I'm new and haven't figured out how to get ahead. Any tips would be great.

[@av8or971]

In uncontrolled airspace saying you have a baron on downwind.. or leerjet during base.. Make the call like taught, airport traffic baron 456hb turning leftdown wind runway 15. Airport name

[@cessna177flyer3]

Slight correction. Don’t make the call “like taught”. You may have been taught wrong, or sometimes, things change. Make the call per the current regs. Consult AC 90-66B. It says to use your N number, not just type. And never aircraft color.

[@av8or971]

@@cessna177flyer3 right, so saying " you have a baron on final" is not correct.

[@fredhorsman]

What are your thoughts on not announcing the specific ATC sector name when you first change frequencies? Rather than saying, "LA Center, Twin Diamond 290AV, 8000" you simply say, "Twin Diamond 290AV, 8000". I hear that approach used by commercial pilots often in busy sectors and ATC seems fine with it. Would love to hear from any controllers on this.

[@BaronPilot]

As my buddy would say, they know who they are, they don’t need you telling them 😂

[@georgew.5639]

Some people don’t keep their transmissions short. Or give too many unnecessary details.

[@tomdyer1446]

Taking runway 16 - why don't you simply depart, and leave the runway there for others to use?

[@jwschrag]

“Departing 16, Southbound”. In the event my departure is delayed, I “Line up and wait runway 16.” Then the departure call when able to roll for takeoff.

[@michaelwilder9395]

Well one time I was on final to Rwy 15 and a king air came over advised they were taking rwy 33 for departure. Glad they made that call.

[@tybarlow100]

What’s the song at the first of the video?

[@avfan967]

“You’re showing your age” touché

[@robertmaza4272]

You Mean you need Greg's jet??? Or Looking at your Lear???? Would Love to hear your " LOVE TO HEAR YOUR "LOVEJET"!!!!!!!

[@timthesandman454]

People not recognizing the push to talk switch isn't the push to think switch. Figure out what you're going to say or request before hitting that button to avoid tying up the frequency unnecessarily. People who go on with a lengthy, rambling monolog when the frequency is busy, whether to a controller or over CTAF.

[@nicolasbilal8769]

I’m usually pretty good on this one, it bothers me too. But I have found myself keying the mic out of habit and blanking and I just wanna fall out of the sky after it happens lol

[@stevejarocki3340]

At uncontrolled airport I think it's annoying when pilots informed on the C taf "last call" .

[@GopherM]

Have you looked for all the hidden mice in Greenville?

[@HyperSpaceProphet]

Some of us piston folks do get into the lower flight levels.... I hate the lack of brevity when people are reporting in at first contact, especially at an uncontrolled airport with shared (and often congested) frequencies. And the ever irritating "Any traffic please advise" at uncontrolled airports. Fer chrissake, take a minute and listen.

[@petet968]

I feel like the 1 is redundant in the radio frequencies. That's gets annoying.

[@larrybair8074]

Why do you use “Sam-bow-ski” ?

[@eagle2019]

Sorry I can't just give you one! "With You" "Fishfinder" and lately "Flash"

[@nicolasbilal8769]

What’s flash supposed to mean? Ident?

[@eagle2019]

@@nicolasbilal8769 Yes, and I don't know why anyone would change it to Flash. I guess Ident is not trendy enough!!

[@mikeschultze3135]

With you I do depending on workload but never ever Fish Finder or Flash.

[@michaelfoster7673]

Hi watch a lot of videos I watch your videos quite a bit I’m a mechanic and I&A watching your videos and watching other peoples videos and I’m a pilot but what I don’t understand is everybody says my air speeds alive ?? I wish somebody could explain that to me ?? I’m old-school I had a very good instructor and then I had another kid friend teach me how to fly we never did use an air speed indicator can y’all not fly a plane by using feel ??

[@aviatortrevor]

My ATC pet peeves: 1) reading back advisory information 2) using your call sign when ATC just asks you a question like "seven five whiskey, where are you parking?"

[@morganghetti]

Are you saying atc shouldn't use your call sign when asking you a question?

[@wturn5354]

@@morganghetti Every transmission should include your call sign! To start leaving it off is a very sloppy practice.

[@avfan967]

You are wrong about the descending crossing restriction and not reporting vacating of an altitude. I realize hardly anybody does it but technically you are required to do it. I think it’s wrong to make a statement of what “you think” the “controller is thinking”. Sorry, This might be nitpicky but it is a technicality!

[@BaronPilot]

It’s not what they are thinking. They can’t give you a crossing restriction if there is conflicting traffic. Now I have had a controller chime in that he doesn’t mind them to make sure a VFR target didn’t pop up.

[@avfan967]

@@BaronPilot I’m sorry I must’ve misunderstood your comment. I thought you were commenting on radio phraseology and whether it was appropriate or not to announce vacating an altitude when given a crossing restriction, keeping in mind given a crossing restriction (not descend Via) is another form of pilot discretion According to the AIM paragraph 5-3-3, you should make a report to ATC "When vacating any previously assigned altitude or flight level for a newly assigned altitude or flight level." There's a fair amount of debate among pilots and controllers whether you should report leaving an altitude on a PD clearance, but according to the AIM, you should. And as long as the frequency isn't jammed up with controllers giving clearances, it's typically better to over-inform, than to under-inform, when you're talking to ATC. I prefer to follow the AIM than to listen to a controller‘s opinion, frankly.

[@f.n.schlub]

ATIS : " Say on initial contact you have information ____". Really. What will it take 4 pilots 2 hear the "what's with CFIs these days!" in the Clearance/Ground Controller's voice as they have to say for the tree thousandth time this week, "Please confirm you have information ____". Does it take a 5-n-drum corps ? " Niner times Mrs. Bueller. Niner times. "

[@flyboycpa]

Pet Peeve Comment #1: "Belchfire 123AB is departing, LAST CALL" [Why do I care? Just say departing on the downwind, departing to the east, etc.] Pet Peeve Comment #2: "Any traffic in the area please advise." [self-explanatory]