Chicago's Infamous Brown's Chicken Massacre

[@zerocool4169]

I’ll always remember waking up on that cold snowy Saturday morning. It was on every channel. I lived 7min roughly away from the location. I remember my sister freaking out because her best friends brother worked there. Turns out, he had switched shifts that night to go catch a Palatine Pirates HS game. I was 11yrs old when it all went down and I’ll never forget it

[@markconiglio7769]

I was going to write the same thing.

[@Haroldcarroll-eh9fu]

I never knew this But it is very sad I was 16 17 scary shit

[@joeyguss4931]

my grandma was actually mayor of palatine throughout the entirety of the case and has told me tons of stories about it over the years. when she got the call about the massacre my mom was 8 months pregnant with my older sister living 2 blocks away from that browns location and had eaten there a couple of days earlier

[@CubsWin2012]

This is an inaccurate description of what happened. Luna was known to the owners because he had worked there. The owners let them in at closing time. They ordered a four-piece chicken and sat down for awhile. They did not slip in unnoticed and immediately kill everyone.

[@theinvisiblegirlmh]

Right, they left DNA on that chicken which helped convict them.

[@alexlindsey6446]

AND they didn't shoot them "one by one and then move the bodies into those walk in cooler/freezer things" lol...embelishing and mistating the facts. I have lived in Palatine for 43 years.

[@stu383838]

These two have no clue what they are talking about. Agreed.

[@mattt.8097]

Best Barstool content comes out of Chicago.

[@cameronjones4493]

Won ton don has entered the chat

[@mattt2226]

I'm a big Donnie guy also. But as a collective Chicago puts out a lot and I'll listen to all of it.

[@valerieschoen7494]

1929 Valentine’s Day Massacre…kind of a big deal. Probably better known worldwide.

[@davidknell8831]

lol yeah I thought same thing

[@smithandsuperdeadeyeofthew823]

Yep its was one of the biggest murders in Illinois history

[@michaelcrawford4077]

What the hell does "gruesive" mean?

[@kimberH1005]

Lived a mile away. Drove right past when it was happening. Didn't see a thing. But I was driving my cousin home so we were probably talking. So horrifying especially for all of us that have worked fast food.

[@richardandbuddy2676]

😢hey pal you drove past it I walked through the parking lot to go home I lived in the apartments behind it I worked at the McDonald's across the street is video gave me goosebumps just thinking about it again 30 years later...

[@trumpwonandyouknowit]

Yes. I worked mornings at a Burger King and one time on the evening shift there, some unpleasant customer went after a manager.

[@mirandarichards3239]

I was 11 when this happened and then I worked at the Browns new location for a short time when I was 16

[@zacharybiddle853]

The Valentine’s Day massacre is certainly the most notorious massacre in Chicago’s history

[@jameswillard1]

The NIU incident?

[@zmoney9]

My dad worked at the gas station next to this place, he worked the graveyard shift and he said one night a bunch of detectives came in

[@chuckfnbr769]

I remember my Spanish teacher, who teaches at the closest junior high to the Browns Chicken, (now a Chase bank) knew one of the killers. James Degorski. My Spanish teacher knew him Elementary, Junior High, and High School. She said “He was the weird kid, he was the one to stay away from”. I live about a minute away from the Brown’s Chicken. Very sad that seven people passed away this day. Edit: There is still a Brown’s Chicken in Palatine, about 3 minutes away from the location. It’s in the 2nd closest plaza there.

[@TKittymom]

I graduated from high school with these guys the year before. I didn't know them. It was on the news everyday for about a year. Most of the suspects went to my high school. They were arrested just before the 10 year reunion.

[@AG-iu9lv]

I was a freshman at FHS the year after you graduated. Degorski lived on my street for years. I don't remember him well, but I remember my mom frequently telling my brother and I to stay away from him.

[@stu383838]

another Fremd 1993 Grad here... I'm in the yearbooks. Rode the bus with James, we had the back two seats. And just say Hoffman Estates. Also, I believe both went to Fremd. Don't make me get my yearbook.

[@TKittymom]

@@stu383838 I graduated in 1992.

[@jameswillard1]

Wouldn’t Digorski have graduated in like 1990. So he wouldn’t have been arrested before his 10 year reunion?

[@chrissullivan4496]

I worked with kevin Degorski Kevin knew about the murders and was hiding his brother out in his home in Indianapolis

[@rafaellopez1690]

True Dime Allie

[@Dan_Sterling]

I dont get it….

[@KuKuMcKuFace]

I thought Allie's story-telling tone and flow was to evoke a sense of tension - But actually she's just crap at it and basically incoherently scrambling words together...Similar to WSD lol

[@kylelalonde9256]

She is just absolutely horrible at telling stories.

[@AG-iu9lv]

I lived on the same street as Degorski. I was 5 years behind him in school, so I was in 2nd grade when he was in 6th and that would have been our last year spent in the same school. Our block was dynamic and diverse, and most of us hung out as kids. I didn't cross paths with Degorski much, but I clearly remember my mom telling my brother and I to keep our distance from him. We were long gone by the time it came out that he was involved, but neither my family nor the neighbor family with whom we are still best friends was surprised.

[@TasteTestTitan]

We heard you the 1st time, guy. How many times are you going to repeat yourself?

[@malcriadamedina5358]

Degorski is claiming he is innocent. I dk he kind of has a convincing case.

[@flpaintman71]

CCTV was prevalent in fast food chains back to the 70s and 80s. One of my first jobs was at a fast food chain only a town away from Palatine and we had cameras all over the store and exits and I’m talking 1986. Of course it was not high definition and there was no sound. What was not mentioned was the fact that the gas station across the street had cctv but did not mention they had cctv until a week or so later at which time the VHS tapes had been overwritten.

[@AG-iu9lv]

I know, that was so tragic.

[@chrissullivan5752]

James Degorski his brother was hiding him out in his house in Indianapolis he also knew about the murders. After James was arrested kevin would brag about the murders

[@keithgorczyca278]

How does she say things that are so patently untrue with such confidence. “Security cameras and CCTV didn’t even exist back then” hahaha

[@ElDiabloBlanco31]

They weren't mainstream in buildings and businesses until the late 90's, therefore in 1993 they werent in restaurants, so her statement was correct hahahaha

[@AG-iu9lv]

They existed. They were not common in such an establishment due to the price tag, which doesn't make much sense to me, as the owner of the Sonic I worked at in school made over six figures, in 1996 dollars, and security systems are a write off. They could be claimed as capital expense, and she might have dropped down a tax bracket in the year she bought them, depending on the package.

[@LubomirGeorgiev]

I think she meant unlike today, not every establishment had CCTV. Nowadays basically every place does

[@luisgeluna2787]

The show cold blooded on discovery investigation does better job. The episode is called “7 in the freezer “ . You didn’t even mention the video tape they recorded. And the owners wife was killed different than everyone else. They didn’t didn’t do for the money the had done just to see how it felt like. They missed a lot of important facts.

[@trueblu8]

Got a link?

[@aw1078]

It was the 30 year anniversary of the murders last night. I’m from Chicago & remember watching this on the news. I was 13 at the time just a few years younger than the youngest victims. RIP

[@megacide84]

As a kid growing up in the outskirts of Chicago during the late 1980s' - early 90s'. My father and I would often frequent the Brown's Chicken in the nearby suburb of Burbank. Hands down, that was our favorite spot when we went on our daily outings. The food was much better than KFC and Church's. We were regulars in that spot. Unfortunately... After the horrific events of Palatine. The chain took a massive nosedive. Business really went bad after all the negative publicity. My father and I saw the decline afterwards in the few times we went back to our regular Brown's Chicken. Shame really. Had those events never happened along with the barrage of bad press. I truly believe Brown's could've flourished in the 2000s and given Popeye's and KFC stiff competition.

[@rayscheff]

I remember that all to well I worked in Mount Prospect Browns Chicken I was one of the managers that trained that franchise owner I worked that night it was a Friday I was doing inventory til 1am the next morning when I went to bank before I got to work the teller was telling me to turn on the radio my stomach sank when I had gotten to my restaurant there were cops and news crew all over Jim Flattery I believe his name was started interviewing me they wanted to go inside and film because we had the same setup but Frank Portillo called me and said don’t let them in we were so busy that Saturday. I heard them here doing the show but they are wrong not Dick Portillo owned Browns but Frank Portillo was President, Tom Kenifick was vice President I had quit about 6 months later I felt the company was going down in sales a lot. I remember I used to think it was a mob hit because when I was training the franchise buyer I always heard him on the phone in back of store yelling on phone not good choice words about money and forgive me I don’t remember his name because that was over thirty years ago, I worked for Browns Chicken for many year since I was 16 years old up until around 32-33 years old

[@trueblu8]

I thought the same about a mob hit.

[@justinhicks306]

Allie is very easy to look at, but very hard to listen to. She could get her point across much more effectively with about 10% as many words.

[@ccardp.i.1403]

a lot like marriage😊

[@bournrich3353]

Definitely not the most famous massacre in Chicago’s history… ever heard of Valentine’s Day massacre

[@TasteTestTitan]

This lady is not good at storytelling whatsoever.

[@MrSADFART]

I grew up in the town this happened, literally 3 minutes from my house, I used to go to the same browns when I was younger

[@ranguloriveraelsal]

U should have been invited :)

[@MrSADFART]

@@ranguloriveraelsal ik I felt so left out of the party

[@isabelaguirre2256]

This girl is not good at telling stories. Annoying tbh

[@Ben18786]

Loved this one! You both have to one on Brian Shaffer soon. Still missing and making national headlines 15 years later

[@JewellOsco]

My parents went to school with all of these people. Grew up right next to it. Fucking wild

[@matttrembley8584]

I grew up in palatine. Born two years after this happened. Still a nice place to raise a family.

[@joshc8918]

Allie and Eddie are definitely bumpin uglies after the show

[@VMathisEntertainment]

Yes, it's scary, 7 people lost their lives for $2k! I am from Chicago, and even though I had never been to Palatine, I still remember all these years later the event, and where it happened...RIP x 7🙏🏼

[@AlexGFilms]

Sorry but not even close to the biggest massacre, ever heard of valentines day 1929? Do some research

[@TomandAmyinthePI]

Frank Portillo was the majority owner.....That's why they also had hot dogs....lol

[@trumpwonandyouknowit]

Hi. The Palatine Police initially tried pinning this case on employees or former employees except they had alibies.

[@willback8513]

You guys gotta do an episode on Jason Derek Brown, he’s been missing since 2004

[@lauraweiss7875]

I know what “thaw” means; not sure about “de-thaw”.

[@hiramnoone]

freeze maybe?

[@flodeez1065]

The police knew it would still take some time before DNA testing could be used to determine court cases but the technology was there. Cc tv existed in 1993 you just wouldnt have found it in a restaurant.

[@dtobias77]

Sidebar....she said dethaw 2x. I remember this when it happened, seeing it on the news

[@ShirleySerious]

This is an interesting story that is criminally undercovered on KZbin, but it's almost painful listening to Allie. Maybe have her read the script a couple times before recording. Pretty jarring listening to a story at 1 word a second.

[@charlie1832]

Pretty sure there was alarms and cctv around in 1993

[@ElDiabloBlanco31]

Cctv's didnt become mainstream in businesses and other places until the late 90's. They were obviously invented but not a common thing installed until late 90s

[@flpaintman71]

CCTV was prevalent in fast food chains back to the 70s and 80s. One of my first jobs was at a fast food chain only a town away from Palatine and we had cameras all over the stores and exits and I’m talking 1986. Of course it was not high definition and there was no sound. What was not mentioned was the fact that the gas station across the street had cctv but did not mention they had cctv until a week or so later at which time the VHS tapes had been overwritten.

[@CubsWin2012]

Nationwide manhunt, lol. Without any suspects.

[@CindyGwoman]

it's thaw or defrost, there is no dethaw.

[@homeroom101]

apparently jack in the box is banned from illinois cuz some kids died from salmonella you guys should do one about that

[@pharaohstiller5423]

Do a enzos please.!🙏

[@goatalert]

Good story choice for sure

[@shirleyredd6107]

Who were the victims of the chicken restraint murders ❤

[@jamesbowers7531]

Nice info but this gal is not a public speaker. Jeez.

[@charlie1832]

Nothing scarier than a scorned woman

[@trumpwonandyouknowit]

I remember the day ABC 07 Chicago claimed a break in the case. It gave me immediate hair-raising chills that there finally were real suspects.

[@cosmickeys5766]

I remember the day this happened. At grade school for months, maybe years, the too soon jokes were prevalent. Nobody wanted to go eat there. Horrible tragedy.

[@user-zx8de8op9l]

I was a senior in high school when it happened. Their chicken is still the best, and the breaded mushrooms are to die for.

[@wanakone33]

Yum Brown's chicken, the best potato salad and so is the chicken which is really juicy

[@longingsphere21]

I drove past the building today, it was converted to a different company but it’s still there, it’s creepy and run down but so are most of the buildings near tbh

[@RunNRumbleComedy]

That's completely false. The restaurant was torn down and now a Chase bank is in that location. The other buildings in the area look like normal strip malls.

[@diamondhumphrey9383]

I was only 7 months old when this happened

[@jimstultz3345]

One of the reasons my uncle called it Palestine.

[@guimaraesrosa100]

The Yak from Thursday, November 18th, 2021, is missing. Why has Barstool suppressed the truth? Lil Sas did not show up because of Dave's betrayal; Fat Cat sided with Dave as he always does (licks his hole every way possible); and Roen shows up to confront those in power for betraying Sas and for Roen being accused of stealing Jersey Jerry's tshirts. What the hell is going on? Is this the fall of Rome?

[@ranguloriveraelsal]

Holy sh... Wrong pod... This is not tinfoil tuesday

[@philliphaag55]

If you want a real perspective and story about the Browns massacre, from someone who was there and knows what actually happened, reach out. You can “vet” me all you need. I just want to set the record straight. I’ve been wanting to do this for over 30 years. I can send you a DM contact. I was the guy that sold Martin the car that my brother under hypnosis by the cops, who pushed carts at the Eagle grocery that night, “saw” that night. Stories… just want the real stuff out there. It’s 30 years now… I was there the night Luna was first interviewed. In the waiting room in Palatine. I can tell you stories and I stop here… if you want the real story, I’ll send u contact info.