Bart Starr Was a Moron

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5 күн бұрын

Bart Starr is one of the greatest quarterbacks in the history of the NFL, and that goes without saying. He was also an idiot and had no business being a head coach. Case in point- what transpired with a Green Bay Press-Gazette reporter during the 1980 offseason, where he blasted a reporter for, I kid you not, the dumbest reason imaginable
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@zrwz66
@zrwz66 3 күн бұрын
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@OfficialJaguarGator9
@OfficialJaguarGator9 3 күн бұрын
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@zrwz66
@zrwz66 3 күн бұрын
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@coilmanjoe
@coilmanjoe 3 күн бұрын
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@notoriousLSGshow
@notoriousLSGshow Күн бұрын
​@@coilmanjoeunderrated AF comment
@kevinramsey417
@kevinramsey417 3 күн бұрын
As a head coach, Starr was one hell of a quarterback.
@BillMorganChannel
@BillMorganChannel 2 күн бұрын
What was the new guy's record at Utah? Was it mentioned?
@stuartdollar9912
@stuartdollar9912 2 күн бұрын
@@BillMorganChannelI'm an alumnus of ASU, which was in the WAC during the years mentioned. Utah was pretty uniformly terrible at football in the 1970s. Their basketball program was great, but they were terrible at footbal. Lovat's record of 5-28 was probably right in line with Utah's coaches both before and after.
@BillMorganChannel
@BillMorganChannel 2 күн бұрын
@@stuartdollar9912 My sister went to ASU in the late 70's. Is Tempe hotter now that it was then? I recall they were alarmed the temperature hit 100 F back then.
@broski89
@broski89 3 күн бұрын
If there's one thing i learned from this video it is that Tom Lovat went 5-28 as a head coach at Utah
@msarzo
@msarzo 3 күн бұрын
Incidentally, Tom Lovat went 5-28 in three seasons at Utah and he got fired
@danielhresko4900
@danielhresko4900 3 күн бұрын
Where did you hear that?
@5295jk
@5295jk 3 күн бұрын
I thought he went 15-18 for some reason, didn't get the message.
@derekbrown2215
@derekbrown2215 2 күн бұрын
Really? The video was pretty unclear about it.
@danielhresko4900
@danielhresko4900 2 күн бұрын
@@derekbrown2215 you need to read between the lines, so to speak.
@derekbrown2215
@derekbrown2215 2 күн бұрын
@@danielhresko4900 Right gotcha! 😉
@wolftwinrockyviking
@wolftwinrockyviking 5 күн бұрын
I love how all your Bart Starr HC videos start exactly the same: “one of the greatest QBs of all time but one of the worst HC’s ever especially with the long leash he had!”
@stuartdollar9912
@stuartdollar9912 2 күн бұрын
I'm too young to remember Starr's QB career. Boy, do I remember Starr's head coaching career. If he wasn't a legendary player for Green Bay, he would have lasted no more than three seasons as a coach.
@Saltiren
@Saltiren 2 күн бұрын
@@stuartdollar9912 I don't remember either. It seems like people drudging up his failures is just justifying how the Packers are a bad franchise filled with bad players and bad people.
@CuntryRebel
@CuntryRebel Күн бұрын
And Bart’s IQ was 145
@paulpolichio6514
@paulpolichio6514 Күн бұрын
Nice guy. Maybe in top 50 or 60 qbs. Great talented team. Great coach. Great running game. Humble.
@Jetman41
@Jetman41 19 сағат бұрын
@@paulpolichio6514Really going out on a limb saying Bart Starr is a top 50-60 quarterback of all time lol
@BarryMaple
@BarryMaple 3 күн бұрын
Tom Lovat went 5-28 as head coach at Utah. Got it.
@82dorrin
@82dorrin 3 күн бұрын
I don't think JG9 mentioned this in the video, but Tom Lovat went 5-28 as Head Coach at Utah.
@MichaelPiz
@MichaelPiz 3 күн бұрын
Really? I thought it was 5-28.
@jeremydobbs5578
@jeremydobbs5578 3 күн бұрын
How dare you, sir?
@iAintSayDat
@iAintSayDat 4 күн бұрын
Just because you can bake a cake doesn't mean you can run a bakery. There's nothing like the blinding lights of nostalgia to get people off base.
@humanipulationnation
@humanipulationnation 16 сағат бұрын
If you run a bakery, it doesn’t make you a good quarterback either if u know what I mean
@markphelt6395
@markphelt6395 3 күн бұрын
Although I was 4 yrs old and still living in England and didn’t know anything about football. I too remember that he went 5-28 coaching for Utah.
@miscellaneousetc.4280
@miscellaneousetc.4280 3 күн бұрын
You shouldn't call Bart Starr a moron. No matter what
@mitchbrown6652
@mitchbrown6652 3 күн бұрын
He apparently had a whip to motivate black players? Yes, he is indeed a moron. and even worse......
@patrickgrove3469
@patrickgrove3469 Күн бұрын
No respect for the dead
@mitchbrown6652
@mitchbrown6652 Күн бұрын
@@patrickgrove3469 He was clearly a racist. Why would he deserve respect? The world is a better place without him
@bocagoodtimes1460
@bocagoodtimes1460 19 сағат бұрын
Yeah……what the actual…..
@chip2854
@chip2854 15 сағат бұрын
There’s a book about the Civil War titled Gods and Generals. I think about that title a lot when thinking about football head coaches.
@MichaelBurmy
@MichaelBurmy 3 күн бұрын
Crazily enough, Bart Starr was the best coach the Packers ever had in the post-Lombardi but pre-Holmgren era.
@MichaelPiz
@MichaelPiz 3 күн бұрын
Ugh. As a Packers fan since age 5 in 1966, thanks for bringing that up. 😐
@marcus813
@marcus813 3 күн бұрын
No wonder they were so awful until the early '90s. I grew up in the '80s and I saw no evidence of the Pack's past glory when I started watching the NFL in the middle of that decade.
@zztv15
@zztv15 3 күн бұрын
They was so so with Greg Forest and Don Magic Majkowski Tim Harris Sterling Sharpe James lofton
@DemonKingBadger
@DemonKingBadger 3 күн бұрын
​@@zztv15 Lynn dickey was a good QB for a couple years, but he always seemed to need to put up 40 to win.
@erickennedy8534
@erickennedy8534 3 күн бұрын
​@@DemonKingBadgerLynn Dickey was the man!! Also had John Jefferson and James Lofton
@clintholmes2061
@clintholmes2061 3 күн бұрын
I'm a packer fan. And when I was like 11 years old I was playing in a baseball tourney in a wisconsin town. Bart was staying at the same hotel my team was. Most of the team went to meet him and get his autograph in his room. I didn't go thinking it would be kinda "rude" to intrude. Everyone came back saying he was awesome and gave him autographs. I regret not going myself. So anyways I like the guy and... I object to your title. It's rude. Something akin to bart starr was a terrible head coach or something that doesn't paint his entire intellect poorly would be better.
@SladeBling
@SladeBling 3 күн бұрын
Bart Starr would have won a lot more games as head coach if he would've ordered his QB to spike the ball on every down.
@stuartdollar9912
@stuartdollar9912 2 күн бұрын
They'd have won even more if the QB had spiked Bart Starr on every down.
@Jason_Maier
@Jason_Maier 5 күн бұрын
Who were the morons running the Packers back then who thought Bart Starr and Dan Devine would make good NFL head coaches? And another dumb decision Bart did was in Week 16 of 1983 against the Bears. Bears were in the Red Zone with 1 minute/17 seconds left and the Packers had all 3 timeouts. Bart Starr didn't use any of them, and the Bears kicked a go ahead field goal with 10 seconds left. Packers fumbled the kickoff and lost 23-21, finishing at 8-8. Had the Packers won, they would've gotten the 2nd Wild Card spot over the Rams (Packers owned the tie breaker with a H2H win).
@kylemarzion2814
@kylemarzion2814 3 күн бұрын
Its just so hard for to badmouth Bart. I just respect him so much. Gm bad. Coach. Not very good. Probably kept him to long ido admit. If today someone asked the number 1 packer jersey of all time. 15# He did draft Lofton. Lol.
@Jason_Maier
@Jason_Maier 3 күн бұрын
@kylemarzion2814 In addition to James Lofton, the Packers also got linebacker John Jefferson (a dozen years and on the all 80s NFL team) in the 1978 draft. Plus, they picked up the future 3 time pro bowler TE Paul Coffman as an undrafted free agent. So the old metaphor "a broken clock is still right twice" makes sense here. Now that 1982 Packers team, if division standings counted; they would've won the NFC Central.
@tobyresch4189
@tobyresch4189 3 күн бұрын
​@@Jason_MaierJohn Jefferson was actually a wide receiver who was acquired by trade from the Chargers.
@darrellmayberry7784
@darrellmayberry7784 2 күн бұрын
Starr was fired after this game now I see why stupidity.
@responsiblejerk2328
@responsiblejerk2328 2 күн бұрын
@@tobyresch4189 I think he means John Anderson
@stevewarren4813
@stevewarren4813 3 күн бұрын
Tom Lovat went 5-28, huh...
@bradford9129
@bradford9129 2 күн бұрын
Title: "Bart Starr was a moron" Me: "Hey now, mister..."
@MichaelPiz
@MichaelPiz 3 күн бұрын
How _DARE_ you mention Bart Starr's losing record as a head coach! 😉
@therealAZLN
@therealAZLN 3 күн бұрын
Guys, I dunno if JG9 made it clear. Did Tom Lovat go 5-28 at Utah? You know, it was really unclear.
@RedElephantStampede
@RedElephantStampede 2 күн бұрын
Back when the media reported the truth, I miss those days.
@zip1717
@zip1717 3 күн бұрын
This video could be improved with some references to Tom Lovat's head coaching record at Utah.
@Bruce12867
@Bruce12867 3 күн бұрын
He had a .152 winning percentage at Utah.
@mikemeds2323
@mikemeds2323 3 күн бұрын
@@Bruce12867did you know that in a sample of 33 games tom lovat won 1 more than 4 games at Utah?
@SladeBling
@SladeBling 3 күн бұрын
What was Lovat's HC record at Utah? Please somebody fill me in!
@arizonawrestlinginterviews1040
@arizonawrestlinginterviews1040 3 күн бұрын
Now I'm dying to know who this mediocre head coach was that almost got our guy JG9 fired.
@MichaelBurmy
@MichaelBurmy 3 күн бұрын
I'm sorry...what was Tom Lovat's head coaching record and where did he coach at again?
@CTubeMan
@CTubeMan 3 күн бұрын
JG9 only mentioned it approximately 39.6 times.
@CTubeMan
@CTubeMan 3 күн бұрын
So wait, what was Tom Lovat’s record at Utah?
@chewydewok
@chewydewok 3 күн бұрын
It would have been a non-story if Bart Star hadn't raised such a stink about it.
@NotFadeAway522
@NotFadeAway522 3 күн бұрын
I might have missed it, but did JG9 ever mention Tom Lovat's record as the coach of Utah?
@MichaelPiz
@MichaelPiz 3 күн бұрын
Might have been 5-28 but I'm not sure.
@rhgamecock1
@rhgamecock1 21 сағат бұрын
I am thinking Bart Starr had a lowkey drinking problem. Calling that reporter at home after hours about that story sounds like something someone would do while half drunk.
@humanipulationnation
@humanipulationnation 16 сағат бұрын
He was zooted off of greenies and pain meds too
@humanipulationnation
@humanipulationnation 16 сағат бұрын
…allegedly
@beast1160
@beast1160 3 күн бұрын
Saying Tom Lovat record at Utah a lot of times is so funny!!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂
@Metalthrashingnate
@Metalthrashingnate 3 күн бұрын
So let me get this straight... Tom Lovat went 5-28 as head coach at Utah?
@reygarciaiv484
@reygarciaiv484 3 күн бұрын
Should've had a drinking gameon this one.
@OfficialJaguarGator9
@OfficialJaguarGator9 3 күн бұрын
I didn’t want everyone to die
@user-dr4mv9wm9r
@user-dr4mv9wm9r Күн бұрын
We live in a world where everybody has an opinion……especially against the dead……
@michaelwilson2340
@michaelwilson2340 3 күн бұрын
I recently bought a stack of old Football Digest magazines from the years 1978, 1979, and 1980 and found out what a terrible coach Starr was. But I didn't know about his anger management issues or his use of a whip. Great Quarterback but what an idiot.
@marcus813
@marcus813 3 күн бұрын
Getting on that reporter's case by calling his house phone is wild. What the hell was that reporter supposed to do? Tom Lovat's 5-28 record as Utah's head coach wasn't something that someone in the WAC made up to make him look bad. Maybe we should've called the Streisand effect the Starr effect given that Starr pulled this stunt 23 years earlier! 😁
@tomcollins5112
@tomcollins5112 3 күн бұрын
Well, the Packers hired Lovat to be an assistant offensive line coach, not as a head coach. It was embarrassing to bring up his past failure in that article and the reporter should have exercised better judgement. I wouldn't call Starr a "moron" for being upset about the Packers organization getting embarrassed like that.
@mitchbrown6652
@mitchbrown6652 3 күн бұрын
"A whip to motivate the black players" What in the fuckk????
@derekbrown2215
@derekbrown2215 2 күн бұрын
He was from Alabama. 😉
@mitchbrown6652
@mitchbrown6652 2 күн бұрын
@@derekbrown2215 Yaaaa that about explains a lot. Inbreeding will do crazy things to peoples minds
@christopherb.8465
@christopherb.8465 Күн бұрын
I could have severe dementia in 30 years but will still remember Tom Lovat went 5-28 at Utah.
@waluigithemaster6864
@waluigithemaster6864 3 күн бұрын
Tom Lovat may have been 5-28 as the head coach of Utah, but nothing beats 1-31 through 2 seasons (Hue Jackson)
@ericluchinski
@ericluchinski 3 күн бұрын
Actually, the Green Bay Sweep made the Packers in the 60's
@SokemRokemRobot
@SokemRokemRobot Күн бұрын
Why are there not more "thumbs down" on this video? No one should call B. Starr a "moron", regardless of his coaching. The person who hired him as a head coach, and then kept him as a head coach, was the moron.
@rockforehead3022
@rockforehead3022 Күн бұрын
I believe that Tom Lovat went five and 28 as the head coach of Utah...
@barbaracaroll
@barbaracaroll 2 күн бұрын
Bart Starr made Lynn dickey decent but the Packers roster was awful due to bad drafting so that part is not on Starr
@rngfootball759
@rngfootball759 3 күн бұрын
Another example of hall of fame player who didnt pan out as head coach. Bart Starr Mike Singletary and Norm Van Brocklin for football, Ted Williams as a baseball example, Gretzky hc tenure with the coyotes was bad and Isiah Thomas (Pistons hof not former Celtics player in late 2010s) not only was bad hc but awful GM.
@4392amtrak
@4392amtrak 2 күн бұрын
Same with Magic and MJ
@xxcelr8rs
@xxcelr8rs 2 күн бұрын
Coach Dan Devine traded away a ton of Picks for John Hadl. Then he ran away to Notre Dame in the middle of the night. Starr should have gotten another year or two.So close and some one would fumble at the worst time. Never heard the whip story. Kinda doubt it. Media lies are the norm. Rawhide Boys camp was huge. Helped a lot of troubled kids learn a real skill. Car repair. Criticize in private. Praise in public. Don't say bad shit about Bart Starr in Wisconsin. Every one else has always said he was a great man. He always had time for the fans.
@pauljohnston2008
@pauljohnston2008 3 күн бұрын
My dad was boyhood friends with Bart Starr. Dad said he taught Bart how to throw a football. I'm not kidding
@mitchbrown6652
@mitchbrown6652 3 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 and you believe him?????
@jcsoxx
@jcsoxx 19 сағат бұрын
Is your dad Tom Lovat?
@joshuabelmonte12
@joshuabelmonte12 Күн бұрын
Everytime theres a Coach Starr video it keeps reminding me of the time Creed Braton ran Dunder Mifflin briefly
@classicrockbeagle
@classicrockbeagle 3 күн бұрын
For you yunguns, JG9 isn't exaggerating about Starr as a QB. For all his flaws as a coach, at least you can say his players would go to battle for him
@mitchbrown6652
@mitchbrown6652 3 күн бұрын
What about the whip to motivate black players? Is that true or not? Because I doubt a black man would go to battle for him
@classicrockbeagle
@classicrockbeagle 2 күн бұрын
@@mitchbrown6652 Against a fact, there is no argument. If you weren't there, read about it. I'll wait for you to provide a list of the athletes who demanded a trade from Green Bay while he was there. In the smallest market and coldest climate (other than Minnesota) in the NFL. That changed when Forrest Gregg became coach. Explain this to his players who went through walls for him.
@mitchbrown6652
@mitchbrown6652 2 күн бұрын
@@classicrockbeagle So is this a fact? The whip thing? From 1975-1983... If it is a fact how in tf do you believe that ALL of his players went through walls....for HIM. Not for the love of the game, Not for self respect in playing hard, not the pay check. But for him. Clearly a small and racist POS....But you really believe that they were playing for him? Be honest. I really am curious. Is that what you really think?
@RurbanWalker
@RurbanWalker Күн бұрын
Dude the "comments by members" section here is hilarious. It feels like it's a bunch of the youtuber's friends mocking him for phrases he repeats a lot. I love this channel, but I also love how he's got these go to phrases that his audience has picked up on.
@notoriousLSGshow
@notoriousLSGshow Күн бұрын
Appreciate the chanel- you bring up interesting slices of nfl history that havent been publicized - good stuff as a lifelong NFL fan Edit - like the content, not cresy bout the tittle - im not a fan of kicking more dirt on a mans grave ( unless he was a violent homicidal dictator and/or criminal) but ill look beyond the tittle & once again appreciate the little known coaching history w/ BS
@Iamhungey
@Iamhungey 2 күн бұрын
Bart just wasn't a Starr as a coach.
@kurtcrowley9372
@kurtcrowley9372 3 күн бұрын
Look up Starr's years-long feud with Milwaukee writer Dave Begel. When Starr was stripped of his GM duties and held a presser, he saw Begel in and ordered 'Get that ass out of here...' He also went off on long-time Milwaukee sports writer Bud Lea after a loss to Tampa Bay in 1979. Lea asked Starr if he suggested benching David Whitehurst for Lynn Dickey. Said that he felt Dickey had better 'comeback ability'. Starr shot back saying he resents Lea's take on Whitehurst and added 'In fact I resent the hell out of it' Next question from another reporter - 'You are 1-2 now...' Starr interrupts and explodes on Lea - WHAT THE HELL DO YOU KNOW ABOUT COMEBACK ABILITY...' OH, and Lynn Dickey, his leg broke in two places on last play of the game in 1977 with his team losing 24-6. And in his last game in 1983 against the Bears with a playoff spot on the line, he let the clock run down before Bob Thomas kicked winning field goal, Starr had at least one (if not two time outs in his pocket. When asked about it post-game Starr snapped 'That's our business'.
@darrellmayberry7784
@darrellmayberry7784 2 күн бұрын
One of the reasons I love this channel is the tell it like is style that you have and Bart Starr was really bad as a head coach with this and the whip incident and to this day why the Packers let this man coach for eight years when they ran a better coach Dan Devine out for only three years.
@madtownangler
@madtownangler 2 күн бұрын
A joke from elementary school when he was coach for the Packers. What happened when Bart Starr unzipped his pants? Lynn Dickey popped out That is the only Packers joke I have ever heard
@dustylover100
@dustylover100 3 күн бұрын
I wonder what Lombardi would have thought of Starr the coach.
@CTubeMan
@CTubeMan 3 күн бұрын
“That Guy Alert”: In your video about the bull whip incident you said Starr brought it out for a different reason, a reason related to this video. You pointed out in the video all the ways Starr was not a racist.
@OfficialJaguarGator9
@OfficialJaguarGator9 3 күн бұрын
Yep. Starr had no racist intent there whatsoever, but the optics of it looked horrendous
@erickennedy8534
@erickennedy8534 2 күн бұрын
​@@OfficialJaguarGator9As a Blackman I ? That one!! Buddy!!
@CaseyBoles-bc2yk
@CaseyBoles-bc2yk Күн бұрын
Tom Lovat rocked
@timothykoenig3174
@timothykoenig3174 3 күн бұрын
He was also one of the worst GM's ever. Terrible drafts and trades
@kylemarzion2814
@kylemarzion2814 3 күн бұрын
He did draft. Lofton. 😊
@timothykoenig3174
@timothykoenig3174 21 сағат бұрын
@@kylemarzion2814 True. 1978 was probably his best draft. He also drafted Rich Campbell and passed on Ronnie Lott. After Clark went to Canada he was scared another player would do that so he took a guy he knew would come to GB. Terrible trades and terrible drafts. 81-83 drafts were awful
@kylemarzion2814
@kylemarzion2814 20 сағат бұрын
@@timothykoenig3174 He got John Anderson in the second round that year too. The Clark draft. He told everyone he wasn't going to play in green bay. They drafted him any way. Scouts were screaming for him to draft Montana. I know one ended up walking out after they passed on him again in the 3rd. I think drafted Charles Johnson nose tackle. How about the mossy cade trade. Guys going to prison. They give San Diego a first and another pick.
@timothykoenig3174
@timothykoenig3174 20 сағат бұрын
@@kylemarzion2814 Yes just bad choices. Gave up so much for Jefferson. If they had just drafted a Cris Collinsworth they wouldn't have had to give so much for Jefferson who only played 4 years. I still tell people that was Starr's worst mistake. Changing from the 4-3 to the 3-4. Butler and Johnson weren't made for the 3-4. Clark said he didn't want to play nose tackle...took him anyway. If they had stayed 4-3 he would have come. Cumby was another strange pick...1st round for a 215 pound linebacker...an inside linebacker. Then wonder why they never had a good defense.
@dumisatonyjohnson8145
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 Күн бұрын
Most all pro players/hof football players suck at coaching Bart Starr was one of them
@Wildcat_Media
@Wildcat_Media 18 сағат бұрын
Utah fan here. Even though Lovat’s stint with the Utes was before my time, I *wish* we could forget that he went 5-28.
@humanipulationnation
@humanipulationnation 16 сағат бұрын
A Utah fan? Hmmm never knew they existed
@jeremyfox1511
@jeremyfox1511 22 сағат бұрын
Starr, what a jabroni 😂😂
@jonathanjaghammer2.0willia88
@jonathanjaghammer2.0willia88 2 күн бұрын
I don't know if y'all know, but Tom Lovat went 5-28 as coach at Utah.
@jimh3595
@jimh3595 Күн бұрын
He should have printed the press release verbatim. If he wanted to write a separate story, fine, but punching up the release in the way he did, made it appear that the packers included his coaching record. Clearly, they did not want to do that. Also, Starr's relationship with Judge Paris was rocky, at best. Parins was a hateful clown that set the team back for years (Mike Butler anyone?). Thankfully, Bob Harlan changed all that.
@Bruce12867
@Bruce12867 3 күн бұрын
Around seven months later, assistant coach Fred Von Appen resigned after an incident involving a player eating a hot dog on the sidelines during the last preseason game.
@SouthernGreyShark
@SouthernGreyShark 3 күн бұрын
Starr wasn't a good HC but as a NFL QB he was pretty awesome. He carried the GB offense from 1965 - 1967, as the once great Packer running game was very average by those years. And Starr wasn't exactly throwing to Alworth and Warfield either. He did have a great O-line however.
@mrmoose6619
@mrmoose6619 Күн бұрын
Facts are facts. Tom Lovat has 5 more wins as a collegiate head coach than I do.
@chrisconsorte7893
@chrisconsorte7893 Күн бұрын
Who cares if he went 5-28 at Utah??
@bigjared8946
@bigjared8946 23 сағат бұрын
Bart was one of the coaches of all time.
@andyvega5584
@andyvega5584 Күн бұрын
I lost brain cells watching this video. Luckily i didn't finish watching it.
@user-dr4mv9wm9r
@user-dr4mv9wm9r Күн бұрын
Can’t live without racism can you?
@williambutler3103
@williambutler3103 3 күн бұрын
I believe at his post-firing press conference, Starr said, and I'm paraphrasing, that he met all his objectives. And, I'm thinking, you never made the playoffs, yet you made all your objectives! Please correct me if I'm mixing up fired head coaches.
@Tatorterminator66
@Tatorterminator66 3 күн бұрын
The Packers have had some crazy luck with their quarterbacks.
@clintholmes2061
@clintholmes2061 3 күн бұрын
And too many of the fans want to call it all skill. But you are correct... they have had lots of luck too.
@redmustangredmustang
@redmustangredmustang 3 күн бұрын
The crazy thing was Bart Starr was the ONLY coach to win a playoff game before the Holmgren era. Yeah the Devine 1972 playoffs was the other postseason, but other than that the Packers were just a mediocre team. The Packers had great offensive talent in Lynn Dickey, James Lofton, Eddie Lee Ivory. It was also the Packers just had a terrible terrible defense.
@erickennedy8534
@erickennedy8534 3 күн бұрын
Bart Starr use a whip movtaited black players. That be a First Take Classic that happen today.
@jerrymauro8873
@jerrymauro8873 2 күн бұрын
What was Tom Lovat’s record at Utah ??? 🤔🤔 I didn’t catch that 😳
@lonewolfjedi493osswfan
@lonewolfjedi493osswfan 3 күн бұрын
Proof positive, being a quarterback doesn’t mean you’re going to be a decent HC, unless your name is Harbaugh
@SladeBling
@SladeBling 3 күн бұрын
Bart Starr was a lot different person without Lombardi as his guide.
@krl97a
@krl97a 2 күн бұрын
In fairness, you surely know that you can slant stories with the right cherry-picked "true" facts and omissions. Countless things are true. Only a few facts end up in articles. My guess (since we didn't get Starr's side of the story) is that he thought the announcement about his new hire wasn't the time to paint the guy as a loser at a different job, and that the reporter was taking a snarky shot. I'm not saying he's right. From what I heard I tend to agree with you that Starr overreacted and acted stupidly, as did the coach at y'all's opponents' school. But the extreme emphasis on the fact being true seems like a straw man. Obviously these men weren't denying the public records' accuracy. The question apparently is whether that fact was appropriate for the occasion.
@lionsfan7500
@lionsfan7500 2 күн бұрын
He was a GREAT QB but wasn't that good of a head coach
Күн бұрын
I'm laughing my ass off at these comments. 😄😄
@dclaff3790
@dclaff3790 2 күн бұрын
This is normally a good channel. However there is no need to call the man an idiot and a moron! Try to have a little class!
@rhgamecock1
@rhgamecock1 21 сағат бұрын
What was Tom Lovat's record at Utah? Lol
@theycallhimwoods
@theycallhimwoods 3 күн бұрын
the word "fired" contains a stigma - the correct way to say it is "dismissed" or " moved on"
@CTubeMan
@CTubeMan 3 күн бұрын
Or, “Don’t let the door hit you…”
@clintholmes2061
@clintholmes2061 3 күн бұрын
"moved on" is what you might say if you you want to do propaganda... not journalism.
@andypritchard9644
@andypritchard9644 3 күн бұрын
PC bullshit. If you're fired, you're fired. It's on the listener if he or she thinks that means the fired coach/manager sucked at a given place. Sometimes people get let go for things besides poor performance but at the end of the day, they're still fired.
@ronsmac
@ronsmac 3 күн бұрын
When I was a little kid it was a given that gb, both ny teams, det,kc, no, were going to suck every year
@BillMorganChannel
@BillMorganChannel 2 күн бұрын
I love 3:09 ... there are 3 Packer receivers next to each other!
@baxatakbaxatak2014
@baxatakbaxatak2014 3 күн бұрын
Just like John Elway the GM or Wayne Gretzky the HC.
@erickennedy8534
@erickennedy8534 2 күн бұрын
Elway won a ring , and went to two Super Bowls. Drafted few future Hall of Famers. Go Broncos!!
@s.tavares3257
@s.tavares3257 Күн бұрын
So are you a Packers fan or Jaguars fan??
@OfficialJaguarGator9
@OfficialJaguarGator9 Күн бұрын
Jaguars If you’re wondering about the helmets in the background… I have those for every team and swap them out based on the video subject
@humanipulationnation
@humanipulationnation 16 сағат бұрын
@@OfficialJaguarGator9so for the bears you use a Chicago helmet? Cool very creative ❤
@Saltiren
@Saltiren 2 күн бұрын
Do you hate the Green Bay Packers organization, or only the players that've played for them?
@1212Jiggz
@1212Jiggz 3 күн бұрын
Seems to be a correlation between former Green Bay QB's and being a moron.
@alexbroadbent5313
@alexbroadbent5313 2 күн бұрын
Is that also a reference to Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers?
@billyhill7630
@billyhill7630 Күн бұрын
Bill Curry was also terrible.
@jonlohrenz5446
@jonlohrenz5446 2 күн бұрын
Great players rarely make great coaches. The only one I can think of that was great at both was Larry Bird (basketball I know). And he didn’t coach very long.
@glenray335
@glenray335 Күн бұрын
Jerry West did okay
@blakesir4279
@blakesir4279 Күн бұрын
Terrrible watch. Just constantly repeating his record. No real story and could have been told in a minute. No flow at all. Alll of a sudden it goes to bull curry to Georgia tech out of the blue etc
@frenchfrey65
@frenchfrey65 18 сағат бұрын
I can understand why Starr was upset, it's still silly, but mentioning an abysmal record of a coach's history can be seen as a red flag by readers and thus can be misconstrued as a smear, even if it's 100% the reporter's job to mention, and no the report on the paper was not unprofessional by any means, it was by the books normal as you OP said. Starr wanted his coach to look good as possible, what person wouldn't want their hire to look good? I'm surprised McCarthy didn't get mad at reporters mentioning Dom Caper's dubious coaching history and numerous red flags before the Packers hired him (and kept him at DC WAY too long!), Capers was HC of the Panthers and Texans with only 1 winning season iirc between the 2, and was a 1 year DC for the Miami Dolphins the year of which they went 1-15. Mike Pettine was a HC for 2 years for the Browns in which his 2nd year was awful (it's the Browns, no HoF coach can get that team to be good!), but outside of that, his stints as DC or DB coach were fantastic! But people kept pointing at his 2 year stint with the Browns as a red flag. It's the same thing with Jeff Hafley right now, dude was HC of Boston College for 3 years and has a losing record, is that a red flag? I don't think so, it's BC they're middle of the road. Outside of that he doesn't have really any red flags as a possible poor choice at DC. Then there's Joe Barry who had quite a few red flags, his stints with Detroit and Washington should've been heeded, and they weren't, and then people wonder why his defense was horrid for the Packers! I think Starr was hoping to set the record straight to prove that Lovat was a good hire and that his head coaching stint should be ignored. Is it still silly? Yes, is it understandable? Imo, also yes.
@humanipulationnation
@humanipulationnation 16 сағат бұрын
Tell us how you really feel
@ronanderson7598
@ronanderson7598 2 күн бұрын
LMAO 5-28 LMAO😂
@randytracy1742
@randytracy1742 3 күн бұрын
How many times did jg9 say that Tom lovat was 5 and 28 at Utah? A lot! Bart Starr was a good quarterback at Green Bay-not so great as a head coach and general manager-ai although he drafted lofton! 😮😮😮😮
@CTubeMan
@CTubeMan 3 күн бұрын
About 39.6 times.
@rushbroussard5399
@rushbroussard5399 3 күн бұрын
Bart Star Was A Good Player With The Greenbay Packers But He Was Not A Coach Of The Greenbay Packers, Jerry Stovall Was A Good Player With The Lsu Tigers But He Was Not Good A Good Coach Of The Lsu Tigers.
@orbyfan
@orbyfan 3 күн бұрын
Why do you capitalize every word?
@johnbrandt7024
@johnbrandt7024 2 күн бұрын
To be fair, please change the title of this segment to "Official JaguarGator9 is a Moron."
@MrZyxxtl
@MrZyxxtl 3 күн бұрын
Your "click bait" title is disgraceful. His family should not have to see garbage like this.
@82dorrin
@82dorrin 3 күн бұрын
Okay Boomer.
@clintholmes2061
@clintholmes2061 3 күн бұрын
@@82dorrin It's a bad title.
@danielhresko4900
@danielhresko4900 2 күн бұрын
Great video, but man, he crapped the bed with the title. JG9 really should change it. Starr was awful as a coach, but to make a blanket statement that he is a moron is going way too far. JG9 is better than that, and should correct this.
@darrellmayberry7784
@darrellmayberry7784 Күн бұрын
Well I call a spade a spade and with this and the whip episode and his overall coaching record Bart Starr who was a HOF player and seemed to be a good man was a moron as a coach.
@danielhresko4900
@danielhresko4900 Күн бұрын
@@darrellmayberry7784 Ah, but that's the difference! You added "as a coach". I don't think anyone would be complaining if JG9 had added those words as well. I know I would've been fine with it. But just saying he was "a moron" is an ugly and incorrect statement. Starr wouldn't have had the playing career he had if he were "a moron".
@e93sports80
@e93sports80 3 күн бұрын
Nice!
@christopherb.8465
@christopherb.8465 Күн бұрын
CTE
@paulmagruder376
@paulmagruder376 3 күн бұрын
Your absolutely correct! He should've called his house. However the reporter didn't have to disrespect Lovat. By implying that Greenbay hired a loser coach.
@ebonyknight5
@ebonyknight5 3 күн бұрын
Starr spent up his entire privilege card after his playing days were over. Those black players should’ve kicked his arse for the whip stunt.
@notoriousLSGshow
@notoriousLSGshow Күн бұрын
Wasn't the whip brought out for diff reasons not to be racist ? Lol def couldn't be done in today's society - hell even math & saying good morning are racist
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