Bartender Vs The Drinkworks Home Bar, who will win?

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

We tried the Bartesian! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHq3iaOspLyij9k We forgot to say in the review, but they have a total of 23 different Pods, including Beck's Beer, Bass Beer and Stella Artois Cidre. Drinkworks Home Bar: amzn.to/2LRsBpS And speaking of Robot rights, we found this video interesting kzbin.info/www/bejne/ennchoydbb1mZ8U

[@rockerteen8300]

I just bought one... You’re fired!

[@alexandre4532]

I think, instead, you should review the Bartesian, Its also a ''pod'' system but its mostly for the flavoring. You actually fill dedicated bottles with different types of alcohol to have the machine make drinks

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

If this is something you guys want us to test out, hit the thumbs up on this

[@JaRhule]

I have the Bartesian. We love it! I see AA meetings in my future... 😂

[@mm0710]

I would think the Bartesian would be better because you fill it with your own liquors, so if you put top shelf liquors in it the drinks should be better, and also you can select the strength from mocktail, light, regular and strong. I would love to see a video review of the Bartesian.

[@167jazmine]

Will the Bartesian video come out soon?

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

Better late than never, right? kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHq3iaOspLyij9k

[@TheLastOneUsaw]

As a bartender I'm not feeling too threatened by this thing lol.

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

Me neither LOL

[@cezarcatalin1406]

The Educated Barfly I am a computer engineer and even I’m not worried about losing human bartenders... YET

[@lowfovx]

As a bartender I’m also not feeling too threatened by this thing... yet

[@homasas4837]

As a bartender too, I'm thinking of having one of these hidden in my pantry when I don't want to work!

[@philiplubduck6107]

Greed does push things forward. Just like do you have a smart watch. Most likely your greedy and to lazy to look at your phone in your pocket. Greed to want ac in homes. Greed to want cheap Walmart prices. Cheap ikea furniture. Greed of the rich only success from the greed of the rest of society. If you don’t want more out of like (greed) than someone from 1950 let alone a earlier time then all or nearly all rich people would stop making money, I want a home bar machine that does much more than this can. So I’m greedy wanting cheap drinks that are not $5-$10 each at a bar.

[@stevencooper3202]

Look, if it's not the cantina droid from Star Wars doing my automated drink making I'll stick with a humanoid bartender.

[@ascendedvegeta]

What about the human like robo bartender from the fifth element? That one even asks if you want some more

[@dew7555]

But the cantina bartender was a human named Wuher... the cantina didnt allow droids.

[@lunamay8537]

new title for this video: bar tender and suspected mint plant murderer makes compelling argument for future robots while drinking a hic double vodka and applying for a job.

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

LOL

[@vitalentertainment1885]

hey, hey. Shut up

[@mikebolton4257]

We don’t want the kids to hear. Shhhhhhh😂😂😂😂

[@jimfererro1493]

Maybe a clue can be found in the fact Kuerig hasn’t yet discovered how to make a decent cup of coffee, so why would we think they can make a cocktail?

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

Amen to that!

[@sparks6177]

To be fair making a good cocktail is slightly easier then a good cup of coffee maybe this is them giving up lmao

[@sparks6177]

To be fair making a good cocktail is slightly easier then a good cup of coffee maybe this is them giving up lmao

[@SciFiGirl007]

Bravo. I guess they gave up on coffee and moved on to alcohol. Maybe after the 1st drink, people will "like" the 2nd Keurig Kocktail

[@amykruse6887]

I'm usually here for drinks, but Asimov style philosophy was a fantastic bonus.

[@austincrawford9604]

ya he really went bicentennial man on us

[@vinniedeo42]

I was just about to stop watching the video to make the same exact comment. HA! Yeah, that really took a turn for a while. Had me thinking of Seth Macfarlane’s sidetracking on Family Guy.

[@Cricket101382]

Does this really MAKE a drink or is it just poking a hole in the cup thing and squirting it into a glass?

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

It adds water and soda as well so it does sort of “make a drink” but a little robot arm isn’t garnishing or anything

[@mikebaker2436]

@@TheEducatedBarfly So its a drunk Keurig.

[@robspecht9550]

The Educated Barfly hmm $200 of soda water or the Drinkworks??

[@Randy_84]

I've had the white Russian, it reminds me of a dive bar. Not bad.. not great. You really taste to alcohol.

[@Samifry]

@@TheEducatedBarfly en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juicero

[@eskimo2k]

I lol'd at "bar quality cocktails if you're at a sports bar". That is such a perfect description.

[@ChadWinters]

So if they advertised it as “Applebee’s quality” sounds like it would be pretty accurate

[@marcus2250]

I’m dead 😂😂😂

[@evanlenn6209]

You can either spend $200 on a drink making machine or you can make them yourself in any sort of jar with fresh ingredients and still get a better result. Tough choice really.

[@vjaceslavsavsjaniks6431]

Good old Whiskey+Cola for end of the day

[@ExtremelyToxic]

Do the bartender and the cameraman hate eachother? Lol

[@werepixie]

Oh joy. Another machine like the kurig creating tons of plastic waste that will be around longer than any of us. Just to make a single glass of a drink that is not nearly as good as doing it the right way.

[@MrazzleDazzle]

I'm surprised that he didn't mention the plastic waste this thing makes, it was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw this

[@prestonsamson3674]

Except a college student recently discovered a type of bacteria that feeds on plastic and turns it into a harmless enzyme.

[@wiljf17]

Not only that, I know the mark up on the alcohol has to be insane.

[@paladonis]

@@prestonsamson3674 I dunno about a college kid, but I do know of multiple scientists that have been testing it. Though plastic eating microbes have been found out in nature naturally, they just don't break down as much as we throw out. We also don't know the ramifications of juicing a microbe so it eats faster. It could start to adapt to breaking down other things or what that might mean for the soil these things are on. There are still alot of of unanswered questions about it to go "Problem fixed! Throw yer plastic everywhere!" Reduction of plastic use is the first and best step that needs to take place. This would give time for those enzymes to break things down if they work, or other methods to be used. How bad is it right now? A recent study shows that more then 1 million plastic bottles are sold every minute, globally. That's a lotta bacteria.

[@calibribody6776]

@@paladonis you wouldn't be able to throw your plastic everywhere anyway. Introducing such a bacteria so that i can eat plastic waste everywhere.... well how would it differentiate between waste plastic and plastic being used? I'd prefer my legos NOT to be eaten by bacteria lmao.

[@stillvisionsmusic]

Marius was mostly looking forward to the “not getting sassed by Leandro” feature this machine offered.

[@burnttacoconspiracy5786]

Old guy at the bar: Ay lad, you ordering a girls drink or something? Me sipping my long island iced tea: Not entirely

[@turnerjazz7872]

LOL. Love the 10 minutes of rambling between the test and when you finally, actually give your opinion of this thing...

[@BrickFilmsCinema]

We know Leandro has had too many drinks before the shoot when he starts talking about paying robots XD

[@kalenberreman8252]

Leandro is a robots rights activist.

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

LOL

[@craiglitchfield791]

Damn, I hate everything about this loveless product. It’s a syrup/booze dispenser for the undiscerning drinker

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaab]

dut dut dut dut

[@benjaminwilliamson4139]

Helen G. Pitts oh wow this is 100% not a bot with a stupid name trying to make an overly complicated unrelated comment on this video

[@diegazo5556]

best bartending video EVER. not ultra fancy cocktail recipe, no expensive and flawless bartools; just basics 101 work ethics and robot/human philosofy. NAILED IT DUDE

[@IronGin201]

I rent my apartment out to Airbnb, it's hotel quality. Reference: The Shining.

[@ernieforni3221]

I checked the web site and there is a good selection of drinks. I do not live in a state that allows you to purchase spirits through the mail, so it is a "no go" until the state ABC stores carry the pods. I see this appealing to the people who pick up the jugs of sours or margarita mixes for making their drinks.

[@lvcsslacker]

also, I'm over this fad of pod based drinks.

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

Me too!!!

[@mikebaker2436]

Keurig was invented in 1998. I've had mine for 14 years. How long do fads last exactly?

[@wolfsden6479]

@@mikebaker2436 its more the last 5 years of literally everything being made into the "k cup of" ________. Honestly coffee is the only thing that you should use pods for.

[@nathanducharme5697]

When he said ''I have 2 kids, I need booze at end of the day'' XD

[@S3b4P]

I need it myself sometimes and I don't have kids lol

[@tarynsandulyak8758]

Same

[@keicoffman1508]

I just love your on-screen/off-screen chemistry.

[@daitokuji8327]

I wonder how much the pods are and how much packaging waste a night of drinks would generate? I am not sold.

[@mildlydazed9608]

I was curious and looked. the pods are 15.99 for 4 pods.

[@mildlydazed9608]

@@user-zy2qo4qs7d to be fair these ones are a lot stronger than what any responsible adult would make for their self.

[@sarahstewart3978]

Dunno why people are hating, your rebuttals are hilarious! I actually did order one (because quarantine) but this will NEVER replace the experience of going to bars :) so much more social while I view this as a more at home “private” thing. Hope all the bartenders and service workers are hanging in there. Be strong everyone

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

lol. We did another review of the Bartesian. We think DrinkWorks is the best machine

[@sarahstewart3978]

@@TheEducatedBarfly just saw it! Made me feel good about my purchase (not that anyone needs validation!) can’t believe something that can’t cool is even more expensive than the drinkworks! If someone made a machine that’s like the baby of the two (choose strength and alcohol brand, co2, and cooling) it would be game over for the home machines!

[@ashleemarcoux2151]

Keurig’s are in almost every office and home, but they didn’t replace baristas or coffee shops.This is no different. This tech is awesome in my opinion. Tasty single serve cocktails with minimal effort, I’m FOR IT...a convenient, at home cocktail option without having to drop a bill or 2 on alcohol and ingredients. Trust me, we still gunna go to the bar to watch Josh shake that shaker for us! This isn’t threatening jobs, it’s just improving the “at-home” drinking experience lol.

[@VideoSlideshow503]

the more important question about robotic bartenders is: can a robot bartender tell if the client has been over served?

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

Mmmmm good question!

[@loriander2]

The Mixo Infinity is the high end cocktail machine. That could be a threat to you profession in the future. 300 cocktails, uses fresh ingredients, can have to up 10 liquor bottles attach and you can program your own cocktails into it. Very expensive thou, but I assume it's made for restaurants and hotels where they might not have a bartender.

[@margefoyle6796]

Lol!! I saw an ad for this and was like "really??" But even though I was not even slightly tempted to buy this, I'm glad you reviewed it. And I agree: your descriptions match a sports bar.

[@LordRunolfrUlfsson]

(18:00) I'm guessing the White Russian would require the super-pasteurized milk that's shelf stable at room temperature, or maybe something like the condensed/evaporated milk you can get in a can. Out of curiosity, does the machine use the same amount of water for every drink? Or is there something on the pod that indicates how much water to add?

[@wmunoz605]

Bought this machine for my mom on mother's day 2 - 3 years ago and she uses it here and there when I can't make her a cocktail due to work, but nothing beats making a fresh cocktail for her.

[@NormanBEnz-dt3hr]

"But if they're conscious beings, then they should be allowed some sort of rights, no?" ... "All right, so does this thing make bar-quality cocktails?"

[@manifatzigula]

Recently had the displeasure of ordering a Whiskey sour just to be presented with one straight out of one of those machines. Literally the first time I had to send a drink back because it was undrinkable.

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

Where was this? A Bar or restaurant used this to make their drinks?

[@PaisaPowerMusic]

“I’m glad I brought my straw” lol imagine what type of situation you would have to be in to say that

[@iburley_]

I think what makes machines like this and the regular coffee machines from Keurig flourish is just that they're a known quantity. Nobody thinks that a Keurig makes the best coffee, but if you had to take the gamble between a Keurig cup, a gas station cup, or the ancient coffee maker in your work break room, odds are you'll take the Keurig because you know that it's at least drinkable.

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

Fair point LOL. Although whether the drinks this thing makes are drinkable is still up for debate...

[@preluded]

I agree, although I do think the market has lots of prepackaged cocktails on the market that would be better and cheaper than this thing. I guess if you had company over this is a bit more hospitable than opening little cans for everyone.

[@FunctionallyLiteratePerson]

Also, Keurig just adds hot water. You can technically make your own mix. I've found that my Keurig just acts like a fast hot water dispenser 😂

[@mikebaker2436]

@@FunctionallyLiteratePerson There are reusable canisters for the Keurig that let you add and mix ingredients.

[@FunctionallyLiteratePerson]

@@mikebaker2436 yes, though I tend to just put that stuff directly in the cup/mug instead of a reusable kcup.

[@cjpaul8571]

I respect that you are willing to say that while the drinks don't taste like the fresh crafted version, they aren't terrible. I mean, you can buy a Mojito or Mule in a can... these are probably not significantly worse than those, right?

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

most bottled, pre-made anything isn't great. But sometimes the best drink is the one you have on hand...

[@dorchadasyami]

I used the automatic drink machine a couple times on a cruise I went on to New Zealand from Australia, on board the Ovation of the Seas. It was alright but I much preferred talking to the bar staff at my favourite bar on board the ship

[@TowerOick]

Software engineer here, when you were talking about AI and should we pay them or not, there's a really awesome book out there if you're interested in reading more. It's called Life 2.0 which is a very well researched and thought provoking book centered around defining AI in many different forms, and it has a great chapter on consciousness. It's also super readable by literally anyone.

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

Jordan Tholen gonna pick it up for sure!

[@iansamuel1811]

i cant believe i sat through a 25 min video on a machine i would never buy because you two are so funny

[@thief1434]

two and a half minutes in and we are questioning what sentience is, i must say i didn't expect this

[@cubanheelsbeerbelly]

I love the camera man and the educated bar fly dude bantering back and forth. It’s oddly satisfying and hilarious.

[@ericforeman1562]

Personally, for someone who drinks at home, I enjoy fixing my own drinks. You also get to pick high quality ingredients and non generic liquor. Plus it’s a self check thing if you have to go through the effort of making your own drinks 😂

[@jackwyatt47]

This is my all time favorite barfly video

[@vinnygi]

Leandro mentioned the Automat at the beginning of the video ( the place where you open a door to get a sandwich). The key difference is that there was a squad of cooks and staff behind the doors cooking and filling the slots. It was also good food…

[@maa-honey7979]

Flagging this video for the robot overlords so they know to spare me for my loyalty and go after Marius.

[@orangelloj346]

I had to pause the video during the robot morality conversation to hit the like button. I definitely enjoyed the commentary on this video!

[@atulhyd]

No customisation, no control. And I want to know what I'm putting in my cocktails! Will stick to automatic coffee machines for now...

[@Omizuke]

Why would they need money? Maintenance! They are gonna need oils and parts, for replacement or upgrade. Also, this video got a lot more deep than I expected when I click on it. Don't worry human bartender. You are irreplaceable, you can provide amusement and comfort with an inaccurate level of unpredictability and emotional weigh regulated by hormones. That can be easily affected by changes from diets, meeting the wrong person and other stress by external forces. Or, you know, just the drinks themselves.

[@RetroBananaManNL]

That straw looks amazing!

[@Momus121]

The banter makes the video even better.

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

We agree :)

[@davidwelch4841]

There will always be a need and desire for human bartenders. Part of the fun is watching a bartender making all sorts of drinks as well as conversation.

[@cnino1971]

Can we talk more about the review and less about nothing please! Thank you!

[@shaunsmenezes9991]

Did u smoke a joint before recording this video ?

[@mildlydazed9608]

I got curious if there'd be more info on their website and the cosmo is 36% ABV... no wonder it seemed boozy.

[@lowfunction6136]

I need a drink to philosophize like this.

[@otisgibbon]

I kind of feel like viewers of this channel aren't really this machines target audience. Great video.

[@AngryBeardGaming]

I really love this channel. My home bar is slowly growing because of this channel :D

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

Thank you. Merry Christmas

[@polyannamoonbeam]

What is the shelf life of the cocktail pods if they have mixed drink formulations... do they go in the fridge??

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

They don't expire, but they have a "best used before" date. Kuerig says 6-9 months from production. But the Beer, yes, they also have Beer, has a 12 week shelf life. And Ciders.

[@ryanchain9746]

this is just an entry level product. I'm actually terrified that automated bartending will be the future

[@gregusmc2868]

You’re irreplaceable brother. This old marine is ready to fight the rise of the machines anytime!

[@ltraina3353]

As a bartender (and bar frequenter), I hate the idea of a world with robots behind the bar. I would be out of a job and it would take all the fun out of going to a bar for me. That said, in terms of making a cocktail at home, i can see the appeal to a certain extent... for me, the most appealing feature is no clean up. Some people may like that there is no need to buy lots of expensive bottles of liquor that they may not use up, or mixers. I think it’s inconvenient that you have to order the pods (and replacement canisters?), and not all pods are available. I agree, I’m super curious how the White Russian would taste! I wouldn’t run out to buy one, but I wouldn’t turn down a free one either! (Not on Instagram, so no free one for me!) Thanks for all the great content guys!

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

The no cleaning and convenience is definitely a huge selling point. The best drink is the one in your hand...

[@Dominikmj]

There are so many implications here: a) the whole thing with robot slaves is a bit too SciFi! Let’s face it, we need basically no AI to construct a “cocktail robot”. It is just an automat, which pours different liquids and might or might not manipulate the liquids as per presets (recipes). b) The whole headlines of the episode has been clickbait. These cocktail pods are glorified premixes and most sane people already know that fresh is better! One simply cannot make most cocktails with 100% shelf-stable ingredients (it is analog to expecting shelf-stable microwave meals to be at restaurant quality). c) There are inherent flaws with those machines - it seems that the “egg-heads” which design and construct those machines don’t ask really knowledgeable (bar) industry insiders what makes a good cocktail! This shows at the final execution! d) Imbalanced cosmopolitan: it is a shaken drink- this means that even ice water is not cold enough (shaking brings a cocktail to -5°C) while ice water is merely 0°C. e) For all those bartenders who think that there job spinnt threatened think again- there are already machines out which just pour exact liquor - this will reduce already massively the need of bartenders - especially if those products become cheaper and more accessible. Back of house bars, pool bars, sport bars will be the first places... but also other bars will follow. Automatization reduces payroll, increases control and profitability and even reduces service times.

[@stephane.foisy.186]

What about the cost of the pods versus the same of the alcohol you would use? Same or less or more?

[@drewpatterson8009]

Straight up, I love this thing. Sure it's $300 bucks but I spend that in 3 nights out. Then the cocktails are just around $4 bucks which is cheaper than a bar, and taste like a typical "bar" cocktail. It's not like mind blowing drinks but it's "good" and as you said "stiff". I think for someone who likes cocktails, but doesn't like spending lots of money (long term) it's a GREAT buy. They also have "signature" pods now with premium spirits and flavors now.

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

agreed, for what it is, it's great. And the best of the machines available, in our opinion

[@crossseyesmite3834]

I really enjoyed this, next time you do something like this you should race the machine to see who is faster and which one tastes nicer and which one would win with both things took into consideration (include garnishes and presentation if you want :D)

[@loganfinn2728]

LOVE THE BANTER in these episodes

[@elchicko1976]

Nothing can EVER replace a good bartender. 😋

[@aaronhastie830]

My dad has had his Opal machine for well over a year and has used it pretty much daily and has had no problems with it breaking.

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

Great. Our has been good so far too.

[@briancorley1159]

So is the booze dehydrated and then reconstituted or is there liquid in the pods?

[@scottyhaines4226]

It's liquid

[@heathermorris5308]

I bought this and tried 11 different pods over 1 weekend. Save your money. The only cocktails I found halfway decent were the cosmo, Cuban daiquiri, and moscow mule. The others were either far too sweet, watery, or both. Most of them I didn't even finish, because they gave me an insta-headache after the first sip.

[@JohnDickinson]

Those coin drop in get food places were called the Automat and is a great piece of history.

[@Asylum1977]

As a happily married individual, taking this machine home over my bartender would be best for my current relationship!

[@brianmackenzie753]

"CRAPPY BAR" ---- shot of Paddys Pub.... lol love it so much.

[@ClarkIsSuperman-iw9gu]

Also, I checked on Amazon, it can not ship to Arizona

[@thoughtsofapeer]

Starts out with the plot from Passengers. Nice!

[@DewdropAF]

Thanks for the review! I think I'll stick with my cocktails being made by a human bartender than by the cold steely hands of a machine. Consider your trade safe...for now, lol!

[@jamesmurphy3415]

Is it powdered alcohol? Otherwise there is barely even a shot in each pod

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

They're liquid. One of the pods said 30% alcohol by volume if I recall correctly.

[@76jmlaw]

I am so confused - what does this thing actually do? It seems like it just mixes the contents of the pod with cold water. Couldn't one just dump the contents of the pod in a glass with iced water?

[@ShaunChan]

camera guy should just keep quiet. he's just blocking barfly's flow. He doesn't want to add mint. LIVE WITH IT! JEEEZZZZ

[@propwash6880]

I giggled seeing the thumbnail. Saw this at total wine and laughed then too.

[@woodlandcreature22]

There’s a really interesting dialogue from the 70s (I think) called “Can Animals And Machines Be Persons” that discusses sentience and intelligence and what makes and defines a person - per your amazing drop of philosophy at the beginning of the vid.

[@markfischer4334]

WE DON'T HAVE FREAKING MINT STOP ASKING

[@huntermartin8391]

You should do a comparison between drinks from the machine and adding the same volume of soda water or regular water to the packet. You can tell how much of each it adds by pouring into a two measuring cup

[@ryanfox5357]

'Hanging out with the ladys at the house' 😁😁😁 You dork ❤

[@will5430]

Leandro the reason I watch your channel is to learn to make drinks own my own and not rely on a gimmick like this! Enjoyable video still

[@will5430]

And to reply to the situation where you get roped into bartending a party when you just want to hang out (which has been my role a few times since finding you, Greg, and Steve) I usually come prepared to make a large punch for many to enjoy

[@schmitshow209]

A really good point you made was probably the fact that this machine would be great for parties or gatherings so you’re not the official bartender of the night.

[@samurai1833]

20:00 are you vibrating?

[@justanaverageguy912]

i love how just a single question makes him go off on a complete tangent.

[@MrDb4894]

Intelligent and can learn doesn't mean they are conscious, they just have software that picks up on patterns that makes their task more efficient

[@OkieDokieSmokie]

So it makes weak Four Loko's basically?

[@cmcginley20able]

None of those are even drinks I order in a bar or make for myself. The Moscow Mule one is the only drink I like and why would I have a machine for that? Is the pod any easier than cracking a can of ginger beer and adding vodka (although I usually go the dark and stormy route with rum)

[@FunctionallyLiteratePerson]

Apparently there is more of a selection on their website

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

they have a very large selection, we just bought a few to test. They have about 20 drink and some Ciders.

[@MrSneakySunday]

Can you just open a pod and stir its contents with water and get the same effect?

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

I suppose, they don't let us know the ratios so that have to be backwards deconstructed. But all it adds is either flat water or carbonated water

[@mrjoeyorton]

I wonder if it's powdered alcohol? I would of liked you to open a pod, and see what it looked like inside.

[@TheEducatedBarfly]

The pods are liquid.

[@marcosaguilar5622]

My question now is what’s the cost per drink by pod and resources? Cause that measures value in my eyes as well. Standard cost by quality.

[@ascendedvegeta]

The talk about the robots reminds me of the movie bicentennial man

[@TnT_F0X]

Automated Bartending is like Automated cooking. I'll choose a chef over a microwave burrito machine.

[@chrislittle9774]

I recently bought one and I love it!

[@iiiiiiii3359]

Keurig / Doctor pepper, is one of the largest conglomerates including 7up, Motts, Snapple, Royal Crown, and Nantucket nectar just to name a few . Id be willing to bet they make 100% of the Drinkworks cocktails in their factories. I can almost guarantee they don't outsource to any high end liquor companies, I think that explains the "sports bar" quality.