Base engine inspection after 150mi Ron's 6.0 Powerstroke from South Carolina

[@jayjobes5344]

When I built my 03 last summer, I polished my brand new cam before installing. Put it in the lathe and used strips of lapping paper just to polish everything a tad. Worked like a charm. Did the crank as well. After watching the video, I saw nothing that would concern me. When you build a new motor, you will get some wearing in and bedding of parts to each other. It is almost impossible to get every tiny bit of grit out of the multitude of passages and cavities in an engine. This is why I always change my oil at about 100 miles after a build. Then at 500, and 2500, on my 6.0. I just know that it could take a few thousand miles for everything to completely seat and bed to one another so I want to keep flushing the oil. As far as the tone ring goes, you could easy check the heights of the tabs with a dial indicator as you rotate the crank. But, now that you have the crank out, and you have other tone rings laying around, I might consider swapping it, just because you can. But I have never messed with one, are you opening up another potential failure point by swapping them? Are they just pressed on? Tack welded?

[@AnthonyYoungblood]

I did check by hand using calipers on the tone ring height. Not precise enough tho. I’d rather use magnets to fixture the gauge. I was holding it. I have extensions to make it happen properly. I’d hate to have it notice those non perfect teeth at higher rpm’s. It’d be different if I didn’t have it out. It’s practice time again!!! lol

[@trife78]

I commend you for tearing it down so far to triple check. The tone ring is still suspect IMO. Makes me wonder how accurate that ring has to be. I have heard even a slightly bent tooth could cause issues.

[@AnthonyYoungblood]

I did not carry a wonderful feeling about that ring either!! I really needed/wanted to test the scenario for anything in the future. Thank you for the props!! It is priceless to be able to know we did not skimp out on giving this power plant the best chance possible at a great life!!! At the end of the day,, that’s what I think about.

[@mcdadcoleman]

We're delving into the mind of a perfectionist engine builder and someone who genuinely cares. Anthony, I think the only way you're going to sleep at night is to get some reassurance from a known, reputable engine builder. I have a feeling if you reach out to Steve Morris, let him know who you are and what you do, he'd give you a second opinion. He's a very successful race engine builder and fabricates most of his engines from raw blocks of aluminum. He's seen it all.

[@michaelchan8915]

Roller lifters? Hmmmm.... Seems like it was about that, was when we bumped into each other on ford-trucks.com for the first time if I recall correctly? It's so nice to see husband and wife team work, removing the bedplate and crank together. I have a difficult time processing all of this work over a damaged tone ring. But I feel your pain, believe me.

[@julieyoungblood6072]

It was 10 bad lifters in that ol silver truck.. think you drove it soon after !! Life long friend thanks to the internet!!

[@AnthonyYoungblood]

Most definitely!!! I was in this exact garage during all that!!!!

[@pakkelly]

These videos you are making are the definitive master class in the 6.0! Great stuff. So was your welding and filing of the defective tone ring tooth done just to see if it was possible, but your intention was to fully disassemble and replace the tone ring? Are you still looking for another smoking gun or are you confident the tone ring was the problem? “I am very close to the problem”. I am stupid so I must have missed what additional problem you are looking for.😩

[@Robert-S-]

I don't see anything overly concerning. The engine has been run, and was misfiring because of that tone ring tooth. I'm sure that vibration of the rotating assembly didn't help with the clearances, but to see the coating transferring to the matched part, means the coating is still present and will do its job. I would expect that you could tear down every motor you ever built after 150-200 miles and you would find similar amounts of wear/tiny metal flakes. You've honed the piston bores, installed new rings, all of the bearings etc were brand new, there is going to be some slight wear as everything "breaks in". If that tone ring tooth hadn't been damaged, this engine would be probably a few thousand miles into being used by now and not shown any other issues. My vote is put it back together and let it run.

[@justinnash8889]

I agree 100%

[@alexbarna9098]

This guy's just cares!

[@julieyoungblood6072]

Anthony had the same thoughts on the misfire and the bearings.. I am such an awesome camera lady, that I missed that part of our conversation. No we haven’t looked at bearings after 150 miles. My other thought is that we usually use lubriplate. This one we just used oil. So we ARE , using it at reassembly this time! I know it washes away in the oil, but there has to be a level of protection for a first fire up.

[@AnthonyYoungblood]

I am kinda hoping the misfiring could be the reason. I guess at least we had to misfiring to try to explain it???? Lol

[@jackmehoff1565]

@@julieyoungblood6072you are the best cameraman ever I love your videos ❤❤❤❤

[@scubasteve7946]

Man, I really think it looks like it's ready to reassemble the way it is and send it. Once they take their set, I bet those bearings won't look any different after thousands of miles. Could always plasti-gauge the mains if you really want to but 🤷‍♂️

[@AnthonyYoungblood]

Those bearings were so shiney,, kinda like precisely spun down. Think the misfiring could close clearances??

[@scubasteve7946]

@@AnthonyYoungblood I doubt it hurt anything. Didn't run for long like that. You did a great job fixing that tone ring it looked like.

[@tedkroll9100]

Let her run!

[@AnthonyYoungblood]

She gonna be so happy!!!

[@Prariedog]

Maybe swap out the crank and tone ring ,awsome video series a@j keep up the great work, bud .The attention to detail is second to none Cheers 🎉🎉🎉

[@AnthonyYoungblood]

Im gonna mess with tone rings first. Doing another crank balance will be the last resort. We have stacks of stock cranks,, This ol girl is SPECIAL tho!!! Thank you Aa!!

[@Prariedog]

​@AnthonyYoungblood cheers bud

[@sveinhaland2975]

I don't see any unnormal on those bearing surfaces. It will be some scratches in bearings before you get oil pressure and all is seated. After that those bearings will stay like that until its warned out by normal wear and tear.

[@AnthonyYoungblood]

I am on board with the idea that the missing we had while running with the tone ring damaged had to have pushed through the oil clearances. I did drive it at highway speeds?!?!?! I am sure it liked that!! I feel great knowing that I don't have to worry about what damage that tone ring caused. Wouldn't you say we did a thorough inspection?? lol

[@waynesimpson3138]

I have worked on lots of tractor engines in the past. We used start first time after inframe and run for 2 hours at half throttle then change oil and would have a speaker magnet on the filter. If that was my engine you have there I would just do crank- swap.

[@AnthonyYoungblood]

We have done magnets many times as well. The issue I had was I kept forgetting to put them on,, And to take them off. I would put them on the oil pan during break in. So I never really saw any increase or decrease in anything from it?!?! lol. I kinda abandoned it. Couple times it left marks on the damn oil pan!!!! The crank swap is a last resort tho. This is a balanced assembly.

[@raymanzi1829]

I would re-use everything except the thrust bearing. I don't like the copper showing on the front side and I would check the thrust surface on the crank as well. All the other bearings look normal to me, your gonna see some shinny spots on the bearings, as long as there's no scoring, which I don't see, and the journals look fine to me..... The cam and lifters look fine to me too, all normal...... How are the rings?

[@AnthonyYoungblood]

These thrust bearings have the copper showing just like that when new. The thrust journals are prestine. .004 end play,, Tight enough and loose at the same time!!! lol .003 to .008 is very normal. Factory spec only states max of like .020. Thank you Ray,, Got any thoughts on the missing pushing thru the oil clearance? Or I am wondering if us building this original engine with engine oil could've caused that wear? The damage on the bearings was so smooth,, like polished. We are going back to lubriplate starting now!!!

[@AnthonyYoungblood]

By missing,, I meant the way the engine ran with the tone ring cut off.. Before this disassembly.

[@itsquick2]

Might as well change the damn tone ring - I’ve been there pal !

[@635suz7]

How bout some plasti gauge

[@AnthonyYoungblood]

I am about to video my thoughts on that. I am like a swing voter right now on plastigauge. It's worth a talk for sure!!!

[@ice4278]

Will Anthony I was a false to your theory about the bearings because if you have a few scratches on two or three of them you should have it on all of them. I would say it could be the crank journal but if you don't replace the crank I would you should at least replace the bearings. Cam not looking too hot either.

[@AnthonyYoungblood]

I wonder if the coating will affect longevity. It can’t last but for a little while being bashed to hell on the cam??? I was really wondering how that missing could affect clearances?? Fairly big forces going on during a miss. Combustion happening at the wrong time,, Has to be possible to push thru the oil film during that??? Thoughts???

[@ice4278]

@@AnthonyYoungblood You have a very good point , but what gets me is only a hundred and fifty miles. I know this is costly , but think about longevity and a piece of mine?