Is Softball Harder Than Baseball?

[@BaseballDoesntExist]

When I said a Softball is 12 inches in diameter I meant circumference... Sorry for being dumb. It will definitely happen again.

[@monkeman9529]

Big brain

[@tomvolz3760]

You’re good. It could happen to anyone.

[@staciemohler4624]

Dumb as I would never

[@ianrotheroe2540]

I wanna know why a softball hitter seems to have never faced a baseball pitcher, maybe it’s because they already know it would be harder

[@christopherhelme1300]

Being dumb? It totally changes the point you were making. Neither sports use basketball sized balls

[@shweeps]

People argue about baseball or softball being harder to hit... Meanwhile im watching a wiffleball take a 90 degree cut, twice, stop in mid air, make the batter a milkshake, then hit the strikezone.

[@charlieworley3]

i hate whiffle balls

[@ExoticDva]

@@charlieworley3 I love wiffleball

[@rileyesmay]

We made a rule at my house that we can only use the practice wiffle balls, as in the ones with circles on the whole ball, and the soft ones so the batter cant hit it as far. So far I have made it curve two different directions on one pitch only a few times. I could use some of the other wiffle balls but whats the fun in that? I usually mix in sidearm and normal pitching which makes it a little harder to hit. Ive struck out on a few nasty ones, but I hate the normal wiffle balls, and like blitzballs because they all break too damn much without any effort, as in anyone can throw one and make it break. No skill needed for those...

[@tty9992]

Wiffelball doesn't exist

[@darealpapajon]

Wiffleballs can do a 360 no scope if it wanted to

[@yearoldsinger]

Alright, now take the best softball hitters, hand them a mlb bat, and face them off against the best baseball pitchers in the world. It’s the same results, it’s based on what you’ve practiced against your whole life and what you’re used to seeing

[@benze9291]

Well said

[@donaldcurry1020]

no let them keep there bat just like they men did, i know a few men that could hit those pitchers with the bats the women use but not the ones MLB uses.

[@largbois3700]

@Meme Frog good job memefrog

[@kingkookie4240]

Lol that’s literally what the man in this video said

[@justjust5580]

I had that exact same thought

[@loganmeyer8104]

The fact that the softball dude was able to pitch between his legs and behind his back and still manage to not only hit the strike zone, but just annihilate entire teams while doing it, is insane.

[@Zraknul]

It's like pulling off globe trotter shit in a real NBA game.

[@daking414]

Don’t forget blindfolded lol

[@tuddyrex45]

My father's team played and beat Eddie feiners team Twice. My dad's team won 3 national championships and finished top 10 around 10 times. They were very good. As another commenter mentioned its like playing the globe trotters. They run their little skits and tricks and expect you to play along. Even telling you as much before and during games. That being said my father said Eddie was a very good pitcher. He threw hard but wasn't the hardest they faced. Def not near 100 mph. One of their skits and claims to fame was the 100mps pitch. The pitcher would not actually throw the ball.. The catcher would have a ball in his glove already and act like he just caught a pitch so fast you couldn't see it. This was always done with 2 outs and 2 strikes on the batter so the pitcher can just walk off the field while the catchers rolls the ball out to the mound.

[@keenekreider4843]

Softball DUDE. That is what it comes down to

[@brianminsk8]

@@tuddyrex45 thank you for sharing those memories tuddy, what a perspective. Do you remember any other stories about your father's games vs Eddie or any insights?

[@coltonjohnston2927]

Having a baseball player try and hit softball pitches is sort of like taking a pro road cyclist and having them try mountain biking, then using that as justification for why mountain biking is harder. High level athletes are extremely specialized and their skills aren't going to immediately be transferred over to something similar without practicing it.

[@frocat5163]

Don't bring logic and intelligence into this conversation! MLB players had a hard time hitting fastpitch softballs the first time they ever tried to do it. That _CLEARLY_ means it's harder to hit softballs...according to idiots and people who have preselected a conclusion. Notice how they don't show any D1 or Olympic softball players trying to hit a MLB pitcher? I wonder why?

[@edwardkuenzi5751]

Is she going to try to hit an MLB pitcher throwing a baseball overhand or an MLB pitcher trying to pitch a softball under for the first time in his life. This will greatly effect the results.

[@gabs.2839]

But I can hit a baseball over the fence and I’m a softball player?… 🤔

[@coltonjohnston2927]

@@edwardkuenzi5751 Given that Jennie Finch was throwing underhand softballs to baseball players, the equivalent would be a baseball pitcher throwing baseballs overhand to a softball player. Both situations would favor the pitcher as they have more experience.

[@coltonjohnston2927]

@@gabs.2839 I don't doubt you, and I'm sure that good softball players would be good baseball players if they were to practice baseball, while the same is true for baseball skills transferring to softball. My point is that having someone with decades of experience pitching softballs to someone who's never practiced hitting one does not make for a fair comparison. If you or I or anyone without high level baseball experience tried to go against an MLB pitcher the results would not be pretty.

[@thisguy2126]

Love how nobody ever talks about a softball batter facing a professional baseball pitcher. Can you imagine Randy Johnson in his prime standing on a mound facing the best D-1softball batters

[@Jimmytheexplorer]

Lmao 2000 Padro Martinez against any softball hitter 💀💀💀

[@insertcolorherehawk3761]

And that's the problem with no major pro Fastpitch leagues

[@rodcormier7428]

There are men's softball ISC Level 1 and 2 ... we throw we even harder and faster

[@rodcormier7428]

I have played baseball and I had no problem changing over ... more time to see the pitch and no raise ball either

[@TheDarkKnight-g3h]

I swear Sport McAllister from the Cleveland spiders would dominate them

[@diego7873]

The reason MLB players struggle against softball pitchers is because the practiced their whole lives to hit against a BASEBALL pitcher and vice versa

[@gg4453]

Or any other mlb pitcher

[@Ojtorscher]

But what if you get a average pitcher and batter from both sports

[@jefrebugni4064]

and because they aren’t swinging the incredibly lightweight bats that softball players use

[@seanjennings9408]

in baseball you have to have an upercut swing because the ball is going down so that gives you as much time as possible. in softball though, you'd have to swing down on the ball because it is coming up. baseball players just aren't used to that. a good pitcher in baseball could probably strike out a softball player easily because they weren't use to having to upercut their swing, so yes

[@samuelgager_5398]

@@Ojtorscher doesn’t matter if you don’t practice that

[@VivanLaMNWA]

I love that you casually threw in there that a Wiffleball is harder to hit that both 🤣

[@obviouslyanonymous]

If it were traveling the same speed. Realistically, no one can throw a whiffleball as fast as a baseball

[@iamjamieq]

Mark Rober recently made a video about wiffleball that helps explain why they could be so hard to hit. kzbin.info/www/bejne/imrbpIeFa9qdp68

[@dragonbeast2853]

@@obviouslyanonymous yes but the curves that a wiffleball pitcher throws are much harder.

[@alejandrovaladez9640]

@@obviouslyanonymous MAW pitchers throw up to 95 mph in wiffle ball, all of the 90+ do come on risers tho

[@Taylor-o6v]

@@obviouslyanonymous have you never seen the wiffleball World Series?

[@patrickhovard4566]

All this video proved to me is that these two sports are completely different

[@InTrancedState]

Almost as if they are different sports lol

[@markokuhar670]

Amen

[@antoniomolina3612]

@@InTrancedState yeah it’s almost as if it’s a completely original sport just that the rules are almost exactly the same as baseball with the exception of a few tweaks. Must be coincidence tho

[@chadfookilroy2015]

@@antoniomolina3612 🤦‍♂️

[@diablo55]

no, they’re not, they’re still very similar sports with minor differences

[@FoolishBaseball]

Does softball exist? We know baseball doesn't.

[@25rasc]

nope

[@Josh-go1yf]

I am not sure Foolish Softball

[@fries5849]

Foolish Baseball? More like Foolish Ball!

[@calebcutler7832]

They need to put softball hitters against mlb pitchers

[@dejahawkins6628]

@@calebcutler7832 They really should do that but I have a feeling softball players won’t have much trouble adjusting to the pitch the only thing I think will hold them back is the fact baseball fields are huge most hits will be caught.

[@brodyw2410]

So are we not gonna talk about how that guy could throw a 90+ mph softball pitch behind his back in his 60’s

[@IIDEADBIRDII]

Nobody said he threw 90+ behind his back.

[@AJ-iu6nw]

@@IIDEADBIRDII Brody jsut did.

[@chadfocht9458]

haha, ya that's kinda nuts

[@IIDEADBIRDII]

@@AJ-iu6nw is Brody a qualified sorce?? Brody didn't even pay attention to the video.

[@AJ-iu6nw]

@@IIDEADBIRDII Brody is more of a man than you ever will be

[@dmwd96]

I played baseball my entire youth. We had separate leagues for softball and hardball obviously. I being in a small community and within the same age group, had the opportunity to play for both teams in my graduating year. I can confidently say that hitting the softball was much easier than a baseball. However, the ball coming off the bat is much different. Didn’t have the same flight and harder to place hits. Essentially my strikeouts were way down but fielded outs were up.

[@dynad00d15]

so it was easier to contact the ball but not to get more runs?

[@ALDCglden]

@@dynad00d15as someone who plays softball, yes

[@porters.5811]

One of the biggest issues I have with the methodologies shown is that they always take one player out of their element. Trajectory might not sound like THAT big a deal, but when you've spent your life perfecting the art of hitting a ball from a different trajectory, of COURSE you'll struggle. I think you'd see the same thing if the best softball hitters tried to hit baseball pitches, which doesn't appear to have even been attempted. A better experiment might be to get groups of people who've never played either one and see which skill is harder to train: hitting a baseball, or hitting a softball.

[@katestingle1687]

exactly.which is why the Jennie finch vs mlb baseball hitters wasn't fair for them, because they had trained all their lives with a completely different swing than one that would succeed against her pitching. and vice versa. good idea for the experiment. I'd like to see that attempted in the future.

[@AdamtheGrey02]

Because they're biased and they know it and we know it.

[@the406seadonkey6]

@Lighthouse in the Storm Yeah this is some stupid bullshit. Always trying to shed women in the same light as men when there's something for them to gain. I'm tired of it, frankly.

[@VGK702]

Yup, it's almost like imagine taking the best basketball players and have them shoot on a hoop that's an extra couple feet higher, they'll have to retrain their muscle memory that they w developed their whole life

[@jessemiller9117]

They already have that experiment. It’s called rec league softball and same for baseball. There’s a reason that you only see men in those baseball leagues. and on the other side see both men and woman playing the softball leagues. everybody is smoking the ball men and woman, opposed to the baseball side where that is not the case at all, also note the fact that you won’t see any woman playing

[@cash6958]

Now we need a good softball hitter with a wood bat against Chapman😂😂😂

[@jpeezy1169]

Ya

[@bradonloyd1521]

I mean they’d still get their bat. Bonds got his normal bat

[@cash6958]

@@bradonloyd1521 true. But that was a disadvantage. Because it’s heavier and the pitcher is closer. I say Mike trout should go against a softball pitcher using a softball bat

[@PeytonnotyeP]

@@cash6958 yeah but in today’s day in age that’s offensive for a man to beat a woman in anything so

[@kingdingaling2469]

Exactly

[@christiandouglass2225]

We need Jacob DeGrom facing the best softball hitter from 60 feet and she has to use a wood baseball bat. And then the best softball pitcher vs Mike Trout from 43 feet and Trout gets a softball bat

[@aidanmanning5873]

I'm guessing two strikeouts

[@treywillis126]

They’re both hard and they’re not the same so there won’t ever really be a fair competition

[@highlightrelz897]

@@treywillis126 Of course it would’nt be a fair competition because baseball is obviously a harder sport than softball duh

[@graysoncandy8107]

And hit that 400 but hay softball is apparently harder when it is not

[@Lukeodom0415]

@@aidanmanning5873 nah

[@PinBall0]

Truthfully both are impressive as hell with the amount of training going into it. I use to play softball and sometimes I legitimately felt like those pitches were gonna snap my bat in half (that's just me though). Playing a competitive game of baseball with my cousins though yeah it definitely took huge batting adjustments. It would be interesting to see some of best softball batters going up against mlb pitchers to see how they adjust as well who knows maybe will get surprised. Both sports are hard and it's truly impressive seeing people build their crafts.

[@justvibing2497]

Yes/no softball is easier but I respect their grind

[@evanprince3875]

@@justvibing2497 any sport is "easier" if you have the proper skills. I think hurdles and high jumps are the easiest thing to do in the world, but I repeatedly watched teammates fail on jumps I had made with no effort. Those same people, would shotput 50-60 ft, while I could barely get mine to go 10. It's all specialized, the real pros are the people who are mvps in two or more sports, they're the only ones I'd actually listen to about the scaling difficulty level of any two sports.

[@Stellarffxi]

They wouldn't get close to hitting pro baseball pitching...

[@josuebarboza9809]

Fence rider

[@Softballforlife362]

@@justvibing2497it’s not easier

[@chachcadi271]

Are we not gonna talk about the fact that a professional softball field is the same size as a little league field for 11-12 year olds.

[@frocat5163]

Nope. MLB players have a hard time hitting balls pitched in a manner that is completely alien to them, so it's _OBVIOUSLY_ harder to hit a softball. Just accept it and move on. And don't ask why none of the softball players ever had to try to hit a MLB pitcher.

[@shanemcgrath2809]

@@frocat5163 wtf are you smoking

[@frocat5163]

@@shanemcgrath2809 Apparently sarcasm is lost on you...

[@mochiyeosang1908]

Basic physics tells you why a softball does not travel as far as a baseball when hit with the same amount of force, not including basic biology. An MLB hitter will not be able to hit a softball further than a baseball even pitched like a baseball.

[@shanemcgrath2809]

@@frocat5163 the second part didn't sound like sarcasm tho mb

[@anthonywuerth4997]

I always wonder why sports center didn't bring in a softball hitter to try and hit a baseball with a heavier wooden bat at 97-99 mph. There was definitely a narrative the producers wanted to push with that episode lol.

[@stevecooper6473]

Definitely.

[@owenjohnson5333]

We tried that at the high school level. The boys struggled to through strikes to the smaller targets and the girls at first bunted on. The girls struggled with the long base distsnce and used the smaller lighter softball bats. Girls scored 8 in three innings, boys didnt reach base, but they refused to use the lighter bats or take contacts swings

[@owenjohnson5333]

@Tyler but isn't pride a huge part of baseball? I mean when people think about great hitters in baseball most think about home run hitters. But when you think about just a couple of the greats, Ichiro and Gwynn both used very light bats, Ichiro the lightest bat. Both didn't care about home runs and both have many major league recirds. But with that said I can still hit a 70mph softball fastpitch from 37 feet (all good softball pitchers are at a minimum 6 feet off the mound when they release the ball) but I struggle hitting against 95 mph over hand pitcher....even with a lighter bat.

[@allstarr9tc]

@@owenjohnson5333 Are you sure their bats were that light? im finding 32 and 32.5 oz for their bats, which really isnt that light. Gwynn used a fairly short bat, but didn't really weight much less than average. That seems like kind of a stretch to call their bats 'light' when fastpitch bats are -10 drops.

[@coolfear360]

Idk about a narrative. I’ve never heard anyone say “softball hitters would crush DeGrom”. It’s pretty much always been softball pitchers can’t face mlb hitters.

[@hankm7013]

We always bring the baseball players to the softball field, but never the softball players to the baseball field

[@firewalker1372]

I’m assuming it’s because of the argument “Baseball is much tougher then softball”. So you get this video..... They should of took a female batter and pit them against the male baseball pitcher. Of course that’s not the argument here, it’s just pitching. With the way things are going. We will see more “males” playing in the female softball league 😂. Js.

[@kalphite8673]

A baseball is much more dense and moves faster than a soft ball and a baseball bat is a lot heavier than a softball bat so girls would have a major disadvantage and it would also be more dangerous baseball is made to be played by someone much stronger so softball was made where they speed up the game to make up for it not being as physically demanding what I’m trying to say is baseball is made for a man and softball was made for a woman because women couldn’t play baseball and a man is not allowed to play softball I think they are of the same difficulty when a GIRL played softball and a MAN plays baseball the only way to figure it out would be to allow men to play fast pitch softball as women are already allowed to play in the MLB but very few have ever made it

[@ez8308]

@@kalphite8673 men are not allowed? you do realize there are slow pitch and fast pitch softball leagues for men?

[@gregorydalton3106]

@@kalphite8673 have you ever heard of a camma or a period? Do a quick Google search. I'm sure you'll find them helpful 😉

[@ncrranger3299]

@@gregorydalton3106 damn didnt know there are people like you around here

[@helloimme2466]

As a softball player who played baseball during a fall ball season while also playing travel softball, baseballs are harder to hit if you’re not use to it. I only got one hit that season (I was walked a lot tho cause it was fall ball and the pitchers sucked.) but I was by far the best first baseman. However my entire team was scared to be my batter, my fastest pitch at 13/14 was 52/53 but could throw 49-51 consistently with the old standard windmill snap. I could only imagine if I changed the spin and used the newer snap

[@coltonscards]

It seems like just the other day BDE only had 20k subs. Now he's well over 100k and deserves every single one

[@MrMaxwell]

11k subscribers not even 6 months ago. Our guy is killing it

[@danielescutia4240]

dude i don’t even like baseball but he just makes his videos so entertaining

[@coltonscards]

@@danielescutia4240 I don't either lol

[@jigsawgames1018]

I beg to differ

[@warrior1529]

@@danielescutia4240 true i like hockey and this is one of my favorite channels

[@Idcaboutyourfeelings24]

Yea well, let’s do a session where Chapman faces 30 of the best softball players.

[@joeyplaysgamesbaseball7866]

Yes sir go yanks they would be scared to death

[@datfatcat9323]

Exactly

[@frostyrl762]

They wouldn’t even step in the box

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

You think Chapman can throw a softball?

[@mattcary8075]

@@RunForPeace-hk1cu they have baseball hitters hitting softballs so they would obviously be hitting baseballs

[@shaggydog8129]

If a baseball was pitched from 43 feet, the average MLB era would be 0.004

[@e-erg-mann3111]

Fax

[@Hard0milk03]

true as soon as he said they pitched from differnet spots i was like you can compare these at all. if baseball moved up it would be 10x harder if softball moved back it would be 10x easier.

[@mattlappin4284]

Little Leage pitches at 46 feet, but travel baseball moves to 50 foot mound at 11u. And distances to fence increase. Bat weight is another issue, most kids stop using drop 10 at 11u as well going drop 8 or drop 5 after.

[@Zraknul]

Men throw from 46 ft in softball. But yeah it would be impossible because you read time is gone.

[@alexgu6916]

No one would want to catch

[@olliesworld4474]

thank you so much for clarifying that both sports are hard in their own unique ways! if only everyone knew that

[@america1st721]

that's not the point of the video. "is softball harder than baseball?" and the resounding answer is NO

[@olliesworld4474]

@@america1st721 actually what you said isn’t the point of the video he never said that baseball is harder nor softball is harder

[@america1st721]

@@olliesworld4474 what's the name of the video?

[@olliesworld4474]

@@america1st721when does he actually answer the question?

[@jtmulvihill2361]

He got quiet

[@Ryan-ml5nf]

Now I would like to see a soft baller hit a Chapman 100 MPH pitch.

[@thomaspringle1101]

Exactly!

[@Addi13158]

I would like you to hit one too

[@hailerm2238]

@@Addi13158 even the best mlb hitters struggle to hit a chapman pitch I don't think either of the two could hit one

[@Clorox39]

I would also like to see a Chapman 100 MPH pitch hit a soft baller.

[@thebethedians]

@@Clorox39 😂😂😂

[@jonv8177]

The issue with "which is harder to hit" Softball vs Baseball, really comes done to familiarity. There was a college that "replayed" the sports science test, pitted the best female Softball pitcher on their schools team, who was ranked top 5 in the US, versus the best Baseball hitter on their schools team, rated in the top 50. The difference is the hitter was allowed to "prepare" for how Softballs are pitched. He visited batting cages for 1 day, & spent am additional day with another Softball pitcher. When the match up came, the hitter struck out the first, took 2 strikes next, a foul, then another strike. On the third set he fouled, then line drive. Fourth set line drive, followed by deep hit, lastly he hammered the last pitch for a homerun. He had essentially figured out the angle, & speed difference, add in the ball being a larger size, & the Baseball player now has an advantage. This is the key to this argument, facing an unseen style of "pitching" can obviously cause any hitter to fail, but adapting to Softball seems to be a simpler task then adapting to a Baseball

[@biorgoanylchem]

Not refuting you but the sample size for your conclusion that all it comes down to is “preparation” is pretty much 0 so your conclusion makes 0 sense.

[@theleprechaun5480]

@@biorgoanylchem it does make sense, your only point is that the sample size could be bigger

[@Asian_Sensation1]

@@biorgoanylchem Jon V is right. If you play minor league baseball and face a MLB pitcher, the only thing to do is to prepare by watching and facing it. If you see the pitches for some time, you eventually can hit it. This may not be the best analogy, but I hope you get the idea.

[@skylaralley2465]

100%. I’ve been playing softball for 13 years now, went an entire season without striking out, yet I can’t imagine trying to hit a ball that’s coming down at a downwards angle like that

[@ObservationofLimits]

Hell just the motion of the pitcher can throw you off too due to unfamiliarity. At high levels a lot of it comes down to muscle memory. Your muscles have no memory for such a different pitching motion and subconscious processes fault out.

[@brandonbarber9406]

I don’t understand why “the only way” to prove softball is harder than baseball is a softball pitcher and baseball hitter. Wouldn’t you also do baseball pitcher with softball hitter.

[@IceColdRona]

Exactly

[@blaynekarahuta4255]

that’s what i was saying like put degrom or chapman against of one of the best softball hitters

[@kneecapitator7288]

I think its because most people automatically assume MLB hitters are better than softball hitters, so a softball pitcher striking out the “better” hitters proves it. I personally think both styles of hitting are different enough that neither sports hitters could do well against the other sports pitcher

[@Promoney22]

There is no way to prove it, there is no comparisons.

[@joni1405]

It's impossible to prove because if a baseball player plays his whole life hitting baseballs the fact he has trouble hitting softballs that move completely differently does not mean it's harder to hit a softball. Part of the issue is just that it's really hard to get your timing right on a softball when you're used to the way baseballs move after 20 years of playing

[@danielryan6480]

are we not gonna talk abt how baseball players r used to hitting a baseball going at a downward trajectory for their whole life and a softball goes at an upward trajectory

[@Mystninja]

Trever Bauer knows how too add 100rpm to your softball pitching

[@yosefb6238]

She was working with bubba

[@damion19967]

Haha maybe its the coaching not the substance

[@jusrus2569]

Lol

[@elijahtowne3948]

Haha

[@Zajura]

He got that good stuff

[@Mcdavidsburner]

This guy became the greatest softball pitcher all for a meme😂😂 What a true legend

[@Bananabrown8]

I’m just playing neutral here. A softball is one of the hardest things to hit but the best softball player ever wouldn’t stand a chance against deGrom or Chapman

[@fiona4117]

Hey! Sorry to tell you but this isn't a neutral opinion imo :)

[@yuh21241]

i mean even a majority of baseball hitters don't stand a chance against those two so..

[@jakkesang]

Fax

[@ikinoktace1280]

it's stupid to compare them by whether or not one could strike out the other. Only one will be in their comfort zone, and the bats they use and the ball being pitched aren't the same. it's just a big piss race

[@jallan1407]

Correct! Vice versa would be true as well.

[@isnotforthewin]

I've played both and it takes me more time to adjust to batting for softball, but once I've made the adjustment it feels very easy to pop a hit. Casual picnic softball might skew opinions here.

[@DennisMennillo]

Actually, a lot of big and strong guys struggle in softball. They cannot get over the mentality "it's lobbed so I can hit it real far and it's really easy to do." Therefore, I am going to hit a lot of homeruns. Cannot tell you how many of these guys I saw popping the ball up over and over and over again. If you put your ego in check and learn to hit line drives and make solid contact, you can hit well over.500 for a season, but it takes a lot of practice.

[@spectre1161]

There are a few things wrong with this in my opinion. The first is they didn't let softball hitters go up against some like chapman or any mlb pitcher. The other thing that I thought was wrong was that the batters that faced the softball pitchers had never had the chance to adapt to that kinda pitch while softball players have their whole career to be able to adapt to it.

[@JakeTheCake668]

That was exactly what I was thinking

[@greghamilton3830]

Mens high level fastpitch throw 80-90mph at 47' distance. Having a women vs man is not very accurate either.

[@austinhampton7999]

Also swinging a 34 oz bat doesn’t help. I think softball it’s like 24 oz

[@MrPolitical2]

thinking the exact same thing lol

[@MichaelMiller-tm2os]

Exactly. They are two different sports. This is like asking a farmer, "can you cook?"

[@scottnotpilgrim]

That Bonds and Finch banter reeks of a certain kind of tension

[@nikolaifeinstein1891]

I know! I was just waiting for that clip from The Office: "THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!"

[@Zraknul]

Yes bonds wanting it bad, but she just wants to strike him out.

[@bussytron]

@@Zraknul They were both feeling each other

[@nunyabusiness5275]

Gross

[@imCurveee]

I played baseball for well over 18 years, up into college, and by far the hardest sport I've ever played is golf.

[@Ihitnukes11267]

Gay

[@jisellemorales7947]

PLS

[@smallss7197]

Trueee

[@05nursemeg]

Have you been playing the show or Something because baseball is way harder than golf. Why do you even think golf is a sport compared to baseball

[@Bradyandrews199]

@@Ihitnukes11267 I want you too try it it’s harder than you think

[@Gohka]

Ranking a sport the "hardest" seems completely silly to me. I mean it might be harder to hit the ball in Baseball but you have probably a higher chance of dying in... I dunno, boxing, horse racing, american football. Wouldn't that make them harder? If we're talking about hitting things, what about golf? Getting that tiny ball to go exactly where you want has to be pretty hard, how about darts? hitting a like 2cmx5cm box with a dart while also avoiding the darts you already threw, that's gotta be pretty hard right?

[@owenunderwood1583]

So they never tested a softball player hitting an mlb pitcher?

[@mathijstheunissen5778]

Cuz they would lose look these are clearly put up to get people to watch soft ball even do its boring af so its rigged

[@donadams5507]

How come baseball players are using 34ounce wood bats instead of a 22ounce aluminum bat.

[@braydongreen2463]

@@donadams5507 Because that’s extremely dangerous. With a softball, they need that light weight to hit it as far(well at least compared to the size of the field). Also men generally have more arm strength. If someone who can hit a ball with an exit velo of 115, had an aluminum bat it would fly off the bat too fast for reflexes

[@ebogar42]

@@donadams5507 Only noobs and kids use a 22 ounce bat. I use a 34 inch 30 ounce alloy bat. I don't even think they make just aluminum bats anymore. I don't use composite either and young people think my bat must be cheap because it's not composite. They're idiots. Never in my life used composite and had the highest batting average every year.

[@donadams5507]

@@ebogar42 Only noobs and girls use non wood bats. I use a 33ounce 34inch wood bat as any man should.

[@Zeekstuff]

I will say this. I was batting right around 500 my senior year in high school. I struck out a few times going against a female softball pitcher. I did some practicing and I was able to adjust to the different style and could hit. It really is just adjusting to a completely different style of pitching and ball travel.

[@rileyesmay]

Yeah all these pros have sent 20 plus years perfecting the one ball travel style, so its really unfair to the batter in any of these makeshift scenarios. They both are hard in their own way.

[@FirstNameLastName-se8px]

I did that too

[@brendanorourke4727]

Being tested in head to head conditions, the pitcher from either sport has the advantage over the hitter from the other as long as the softball pitcher doesn't have to throw from the mound 60 ft away. The change in angle would force the hitter to change their swing, while the pitcher can just do what they do best.

[@chunguspo9414]

exactly, baseball players have devoted their lives to hitting baseballs, not softballs, the test doesnt work

[@B_Estes_Undegöetz]

The use of AVG (batting average) as a means of comparing the difficulty of hitting softball pitching versus baseball pitching is misleading. The contact rate in softball is far lower than in baseball. This should make sense to everyone since the strikeout rate in softball is so high and so much higher than in baseball. HOWEVER … once the ball is in play far more batted balls result in hits in softball than in baseball due to the proximity of the infielders to the batter. You should really be comparing the BABIP (batting average on balls in play) statistics in softball compared to baseball. What you should see is that that the BABIP in softball is considerably higher in softball than in baseball, probably due to the fact the infield is tiny compared to baseball infield and the chance of fielding and throwing out a hard hit ball in softball is much lower than that in baseball; baseball infielders have much more time to get to, field, and throw (although the throws do have further to travel, but this only adds fractions of a second at best on the throw to first base) than their softball infielder counterparts. This also helps explain why the absolute best hitters in softball regularly have batting averages over .400, but we never see this in baseball anymore. If you compare the contact rate of the best of the best softball hitters it’s close to that in baseball, but far more of those struck balls result in hits in softball due to the small infield. I’m not sure what effect this has, but drag bunting for a hit is a viable softball strategy due to the short base distances, but it has all but disappeared in baseball, thus contributing to the overall higher batting averages among the best hitters in softball. I’m any case, the statistics to be checking regarding the difficulty of hitting for average in softball versus baseball are Contact Rate, Ball in Play Rate and BABIP … not AVG.

[@theclandestinewitness]

I got my popcorn ready for the comment section

[@vankogiorgio]

I get my popcorn ready once I see a new upload from our main mans

[@Vex_365]

Y’all got some salt?

[@tommyj653]

Also I propose a news game called hard ball. It’s essentially a regular game but has two mounds. A baseball mound in the back and a soft ball mound in the front. If a pitcher chooses to pitch on the soft ball mound the batter gets a softball bat and vise versa. The bases are soft ball distance and the outfield is baseball distance. We should just see what happens because it would be ridiculous

[@jaxonmullins2875]

Yup

[@Vex_365]

@Tyris Truitt nice, pass it over

[@perfectchicken4683]

Let me just ask why there wasn't a test of the best baseball pitcher against best softball hitter, we need this to really prove anything

[@kingdingaling2469]

There it is.

[@Zraknul]

They can't find a pitcher willing to give up their limited bullets.

[@perfectchicken4683]

@@Zraknul there is the offseason

[@rolyrod69]

Because all softball refuse to conduct that experiment as a result of them knowing they’d get owned. The argument ends when you get a baseball pitcher against a fastpitch hitter.

[@rosstully5960]

I have played both sports. Neither at professional or even near professional level but at a comparable level. As soon as baseball batters realise that the actual game is "tap and run" softball becomes quite easy. As you note at the end, you do not need solid contact, you simply need ANY contact and you get on base.

[@Lenoh]

Bunting that never causes a sacrifice? Hmm...

[@chrisjohannes179]

@@Lenoh I think he's referring to drag/slap bunting... Taking into consideration the size of the diamonds will also make it difficult to compare baseball bunts vs. softball bunts (sacrifice or not). It's apples and oranges... too many different variables even when comparing ERAs, Hit %, OBP, HRs, etc...

[@Lenoh]

@@chrisjohannes179 I was just thinking, "any contact" is "any contact", so if you bunted the ball, it's the same as line-driving past 3rd and the shortstop. You still get on base.

[@KASC92]

Solid hitting is the goal for most batters in softball. Slapping and bunting strategies are usually just for the fastest runners on the team. Slapping is almost, in its goal, the same goal as a bunt, bunt instead of letting the ball just die on contact, your goal is to make it choppy so the bounces keep it from being fielded longer.

[@dynad00d15]

@@Lenoh not necessarely.. a fast catcher with a good arm can get you if your bunt is close enough of the home plate. Fumbling a bunt happens more often in softball than baseball due to the distance between the mound and the home plate.

[@insertphrasehere15]

13:30 These stats indicate that the pool of talent in Softball is much more variable than the talent in baseball. Major league baseball may be the 1% best baseball players all playing against each other. But the softball players may only be the 10% best players. Meaning that the best pitchers and best hitters are those 1% players in softball and can dominate most of the competition. Harder for the major league baseball players to stand out. This would explain why there are so many all star pitchers and hitters that dominate.

[@THE-X-Force]

Good point.

[@dmp539]

Plus baseball is an international sport with millions of more players . Did u just wake up when u wrote this ?

[@insertphrasehere15]

It seems like you are agreeing with me. That's exactly my point. The pool is much bigger, so the top of the sport is necessarily a much smaller slice of the total players, and the margins between players correspondingly smaller. Softball is the opposite. Smaller player base, larger variation between players.

[@reginageorge8080]

@@insertphrasehere15you’re not wrong, I played d1 college softball and until you get to that level or 18u gold you don’t see these dominant pitchers. It’s a breeze up until that point

[@connorgarvin2056]

its like if chapman, gerrit cole, were in the same league as club teams first divisions sides, like yea theyre pretty good but theyre not doing shit and against those top of the line pitchers, not consistently at least

[@caseymcdougall5925]

Umm why was it never measured as a baseball pitcher against a softball hitter?

[@dennisdutton9274]

Ik that's what I was thinking

[@Cain35]

That would erase all doubt that softball is easier

[@mtoohill]

Because it's all about women appearing superior to men.

[@caseymcdougall5925]

@@mtoohill yes thats true but your saying that men are not allowed to have any kind of (for lack of a better word) defense against this?

[@caferace8418]

@@caseymcdougall5925 Not in this society.

[@olik5652]

Barry Bonds voice sounds so much different than I expected it to be.

[@joeplavin]

Yes! I thought the exact same thing!

[@LancasterResponding]

You mean very high pitched? Like the thing that is a side effect of doing lots and lots of steroids?

[@joeplavin]

@@LancasterResponding yep lol

[@stephensummers1958]

maybe its the roids haha

[@HkFinn83]

@@LancasterResponding other way round, taking male hormone makes your voice deeper

[@bodvarson1933]

I remember struggling to hit a slow pitch softball when I joined a local men's league. I played baseball for 15 years. Couldn't hit that ball at all in our first practice. Moral is that the pitches are different so the trying to see if a pro can hit the ball is really dumb.

[@PaisaSteve]

Also, the more pitches a professional hitter sees, the more locked in they will get. I'd love to see the best softball hitter get in the box against Gerrit Cole, Jacob DeGrom or Walker Buehler and try and get a hit. Very different skillsets.

[@Mason_senkbeil]

when it’s slow, you think too much about hitting the ball and you get the yips. In baseball, you swing essentially on instinct and repetition. it’s like going from facing the Vandy commit throwing 95, to facing the backup center fielder throwing 65.

[@justryan5697]

Yeah I recently played slow pitch softball for the first time after not playing baseball for 6 years... struck out 3 times lol... pretty sure I'm not waiting on it enough. It's a strange adjustment.

[@Zombie61429]

Well how about a softball player tries to hit off a baseball player

[@sportsplayer2427]

The reason why it’s hard for mlb players to hit a softball is because there used to hitting a baseball

[@OpeFishing]

Yeah

[@FirstNameLastName-se8px]

Give them a day of practice and they would be crushing softball pitching

[@coolfear360]

lol that’s obvious.

[@tuddyrex45]

Totally. Finch while great, would give up 6+ runs a game in the best men's leagues around. And that's men's modified. Not even talking men's fast pitch.

[@jbellon1986]

Exactly!!! Just common sense

[@jasoncarbno4613]

Yeah okay there’s obviously a big argument to both sides, I just wanna see the “best player in softball” right now try to hit a baseball off of a person like Jacob Degrom, anyone else?

[@caferace8418]

This has been what I was saying through the video. You can't have a comparison with one sided test. All that proves is that baseball players have a hard time hitting softballs, nothing more.

[@sl1mreapa398]

@@caferace8418 take into account all the accolades he said softball players did in single settings to me it genuinely sounds easier they have less wear and tear bigger wider bats and the balls wider giving you a lot more space to hit I’ll be honest most female sports men would dominate in once they get adjusted simply because they’re easier nba is 12ft rims if im not mistaken WNBA is like 9 or 10 feet matters pitchers are further in mlb than softball and compare powderpuff to nfl🤣

[@caferace8418]

@@sl1mreapa398 They are different sports. Some skills may transfer, but the rules are very different. Honestly the whole which is easier doesn't even matter, the one people train in will be easier for them. The difference in men's and women's sports is due to the difference in physical strength. Sure men do have a strength advantage, but let's be honest, most of us couldn't compete with female profesinal athletes and having pride because you share a gender with someone that trained to do something well is silly.

[@sl1mreapa398]

@@caferace8418 okay let’s se Serena Williams arguably most dominant female athlete said men would kill women’s tennis Simone biles got beat by some Asian dude name one female cyclist who’d beat lance armstrong, who’s beating Michael Phelps or who’s wrestling men in the Olympics if you can’t tell that men dominate the sports world then your blind

[@sl1mreapa398]

@@caferace8418 i literally stay a few minutes from a softball team now mind you I’m a 19 yr old joe shmo never played fast pitch once and I blasted the first ball they pitched, it comes pretty fast but all that surface area you have to hit and swing with it’s super fkn easy i bet everything I own give a softball a year in baseball and she still wouldn’t be able to hit off guys like well Marcus stroman

[@celtics.nati0n]

The funny thing is this is proving that pitching for baseball is harder than pitching for softball

[@bryanputman1582]

thats what i was thinking the entire time watching this lol

[@garrettkucera1264]

@@bryanputman1582 and when did a girl try to hit a baseball with a wood bat

[@user-wt8im2ro1p]

@@garrettkucera1264 lol softball is somewhat harder and this is coming from a baseball player

[@Memes-xd2dp]

Ok go pitch a softball

[@garrettkucera1264]

im just saying they could have added that to help with the study

[@odonnelleditz]

Then softball players should try hitting off the best baseball pitcher then because we are not used to hitting under hand pitching

[@MrMaxwell]

It should be a war crime that there is an ad right before the beat drops in the intro

[@Zraknul]

Lonely island "when will the bass drop" has you covered.

[@puckerings]

The idea that Finch could prove hitting in softball is harder than hitting in baseball, when the demonstration includes exactly zero hitting of baseballs, is ludicrous. You'd have to have softball hitters try to hit baseball pitching as well, which they would fail at very badly, because that's not what they've trained to do.

[@blankname6629]

Excellent point

[@tggghhffkjgt5615]

That’s a great point

[@GriogharThomasBaldwin]

I'm just going to add this, and I'm sure it won't help anything: when I was coaching rec-league softball (10-year-olds), I realized in the first few practices they had no idea how to hit the softball, even off the tee. So, I went and got a baseball tee and a pile of baseballs, sprayed them with yellow spraypaint, and setup the tee, spending a whole practice JUST coaching them batting these baseballs off the tee. If memory serves correctly, the girls were smacking the softballs in the next practice without much trouble at all. It could be argued that just teaching them how to think about how to hit in general made them better, but I can tell you anecdotally, going from learning to hit the smaller ball to the bigger one made them the best team in our rec league, hands down. It wasn't about the wins, but the confidence, and the girls gained that in spades. I don't know that a softball player could rock a baseball the same way, though.

[@JustMeELC]

EXACTLY! They're just different sports!

[@tebo31]

Just imagine the MLB pitching mound was moved to 43 foot.

[@bryce_58b2]

you wouldn’t be able to see the ball

[@thetruth7354]

Exactly!!!

[@silasyoho8461]

imagine...... pitchers are already getting to dominant.

[@mezz0075]

Then we're talking about 110+ mph top speed. That would be insane, and a lot of dead ball players.

[@thetruth7354]

@@mezz0075 if you're playing bean ball.. without a fuckin doubt. They can't react at 61 feet much less 2/3rds of that.

[@Letsnotzumba]

Hey man. I gotta say that you have a great channel with terrific production value going on here. Editing, commentary and the pacing is perfect, these are a joy to watch. And this is coming from a Finn who knows nothing about baseball - the drama, spectacle, inner workings of the culture is awesomely ridiculous.

[@Fish19335]

Finer was basically if a top 5 draft pick decided he wanted to be a Harlem Globe Trotter instead of going to the NBA, and I love it.

[@SirTylerGolf]

I think you've got the wrong diameter measurements, there's no way Jose Altuve is only 5.5 softballs tall

[@jackn.1120]

Diameter of a softball: 3.5 in. So 5.5 softballs =19.25 in, or 1 foot 7 inches. That’s about 4 feet away from Altuve’s height, lol.

[@calebos04]

maybe he's just that short lol

[@rhark25]

I'm pretty sure he meant circumference and not diameter but it did sound funny

[@pokeygorilla9368]

@@rhark25 yeah he must've otherwise he was saying a softball was 1 foot across. Major fuck up

[@calebos04]

@@rhark25 yeah ik lol

[@wyattnames431]

funny how i’ve never seen a softball player try to hit 100 mph

[@sthustan1ey606]

Fr tho

[@josepheffenrogan]

Facts

[@draneym2003]

But that doesn't fit the model of setting up the man in a no win situation which is clearly not apples to apples, so it'll never happen

[@aryanna4803]

It’s underhand

[@Daniel-dr2jb]

Probably because no one has ever thrown a softball 100mph…

[@Ethanpet]

LLWS pitchers pitch from about 46 feet like softball players and at 12 years old they all throw at least 70 mph

[@kornival117]

You trained for something and is expected to excel at another role in 30 minutes? Let's see if softball players can hit Jacob deGrom

[@idolnash13]

Major leaguers have a hard time so I can only imagine

[@Jakevrana]

Agreed! I was a college baseball player, after college I played slow pitch rec baseball, it was totally different! I swear it took me 3 or 4 games just to be able to hit the softball out of the infield. Totally different, so yes you train all your life for 1 thing then try something different your not going to be great at it……… long winded way of saying I agree that’s all

[@MrWalk-cz3ft]

@@idolnash13 lol

[@MrWalk-cz3ft]

sAME FOR MEN BUT THEN THEY ARE LIKE WOWOWOW OMG WOMEN STRIKES OUT THE WORST PLAYER EVER WOWOWOW SHES INSANE BEST IN THE WORLD

[@jacob4723]

Jacob degrom can picth to them it would be easy

[@samcash6131]

A baseball player told me he struggled in softball with the upward trajectory of the softball pitch. But when he did occasionally hit a softball, it stayed hit.

[@Infntpaccout1100.3x]

it stayed hit 😂facts

[@lukesmith9923]

If pitchers in the MLB threw from 43 feet nobody is hitting it😂

[@XavierWorthyfan]

Facs

[@hoppingh907]

And if hitters in the mlb had a 200 foot home run wall everyone would be batting 500

[@lilabear9968]

@@hoppingh907 you realize the ball weighs weigh more and as he said in the vido men are geneticly stronger dosent mean our sport isnt hard

[@hoppingh907]

@@lilabear9968 Have you held a softball? Just because it is bigger than a baseball doesn't mean it is heavier than a baseball. Softballs are way lighter. Also a bigger target for the hitters. Softball players don't have to hit as far, don't have to run as far, and don't have to work as hard as a baseball player.

[@libertyartwork]

Why comparing this! They are not the same sports it like comparing powerlifting with weight lifting or judo with karate, that they are in the same sport discipline doesn't mean they are the same as he is saying. Softball and baseball both have their challenges.

[@AustinAdamczewski]

I don’t know man maybe softball hitters would hit the ball more is they stayed in the batters box throughout the whole pitch

[@BeastnHarlotDFO]

My man really said a baseball is 9 inches in diameter, had me rethinking life.

[@pokeygorilla9368]

because its not, I think he was thinking of circumference.

[@staceybailey8163]

@@pokeygorilla9368 baseballs are 5 inches

[@bloodwrage]

Probably told his girl he was as big as a baseball

[@jeremiahhardel2646]

@@staceybailey8163 5 ounces

[@taylorgordon2696]

@@pokeygorilla9368 but did you ask google?

[@nwright4265]

A competitive sport can never truly be harder or easier than another competitive sport. Easier to score or hit home runs? Definitely possible. Easier to pitch? Also possible. But a sport can never be harder than another similar sport because any advantage you gain is also gained by your opponent. If mlb was to allow metal bats, it would become much easier to score runs, but you would also need to score more runs to keep up with the other team.

[@LångemansLya]

That's a good point

[@sl1mreapa398]

But that’s not the same if you have football players a a rugby ball they’d struggle cause it’s different so no some sports are definitely harder in certain areas

[@kingdicehoi4lubu746]

@@sl1mreapa398 I think the main point is all sports have their own difficulties and easier aspects but its just a different sport that takes different players

[@atomicgiraffe250]

@@sl1mreapa398 A football player would not be able to deal with the aerobic workload of a rugby, but IMO a big hit by an unpadded football player could probably kill the typical rugby player

[@clarkesmith.]

@@atomicgiraffe250 Rugby players are trained to hit without pads while NFL players are trained to hit with pads. If unpadded, rugby players would murder NFL players. Remember, rugby players are all BUILT and they have been train to hit without pads ever since they're young. There's no debate.

[@aaroncrayton7642]

I feel like Bonds and Finch never truly faced each other so that people can still argue about this today

[@antoniomolina3612]

They faced each other in the bedroom

[@PenguinGang25]

Numbers are great and all but give any soft ball player a wood bat and put them up against classe and watch 3 consecutive ks over and over. Also when I was 11 I EASILY hit off of a family friend who was a freshman pitcher

[@SportsHuddle]

It’s always a good day when BDE uploads

[@nyaheh5878]

Right I got so hype, today my subscriptions have been on a roll🔥

[@baseballblaster7090]

this topic is so interesting

[@thewhiteasian9703]

@@nyaheh5878 same it seems like lots of good content comes Friday after school for me

[@helical.1]

tis isnt it

[@AFriendless1]

The most famous softball i pitcher ever Jenny finch... yup never heard of her

[@pumpkingreg6673]

thats unironically sad

[@gotchabiqch8942]

i saw her on a baseball talk show and she she couldn’t hit a wiffle ball that everyone else could hit that’s how i know her

[@RyanSmith-hi2nv]

Young

[@lokithebush]

Never heard of the baseball guy either ngl

[@brennan3907]

well you might young asf then

[@briancorliss]

if you get used to hitting a baseball it will be hard to hit a softball if you are used to hitting a softball it would hard to hit a baseball they are completely different

[@jacksonanthony5585]

Exactly

[@jsebby2284]

We will probably never know. The only way that seems fair is having a baseball hitter practice against softball pitcher trajectory for like a year and then using a softball aluminum bat to hit. And that's never going to happen. Also, it's weird how the tests are always softball pitcher vs baseball batter. I would like to see a softball hitter try to hit Kershaw too

[@KaitouKaiju]

At that point they're just a softball hitter

[@jsebby2284]

@@KaitouKaiju I mean.... younknow exactly what I'm saying. So not sure what your point is here

[@ryansutter4291]

I honestly think that when Bonds hit those two check swings after taking and seeing her pitches, he KNEW he could rake on her and he didn't want to make her look bad. He knew people and what they wanted and he knew they wouldnt be satisfied by what he was doing. But if he hit her and put a few bombs out after just a couple of her pitches than that wouldn't be a good look for the whole softball arguement. And you can say whatever you want about what Bonds did to the sport of baseball. But I honesly think he loves and loved baseball, and thus its cousin softball, and he probably knew it would be better left unanswered and undone. Then again she coulda not even thrown a single serious pitch. It wasnt hard to look at Bonds body lamguage and see he wasn't set up to really have a good go or serious go at it. Throwin' lemons until he really steps to the box....

[@generaldiscernment]

Exactly what I think happened, and I'm surprised I'm not seeing it in the comments more. He effortlessly check swung and made fair contact multiple times, that's a pretty sure sign he wasn't having any trouble seeing her pitches.

[@jweezy5490]

Ya I have no doubt bonds could have lit her up, he does always get a rap for being one of the most douchebag players ever so maybe his agent said just go out and play around to get some endorsement attention

[@macgobhann8712]

I don’t understand why this is even a debate. A softball is bigger, a brighter color, slowly pitched underhand, swung at with a larger bat, and from a shorter distance SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE that makes it easier to hit! Yes, it does take time to get used to the pitching and the distance, but do you honestly believe that a baseball batter who’s had experience with softball would do worse let alone just as well in soft ball as a softball batter? Hell no, they’d clean house. It’s like people forget that the entire sport of softball was created for sexist reasons by old white dudes who thought women couldn’t play actual baseball.

[@seanhearon6473]

@Peter Angles That's not fair, like actually. Don't get me wrong I don't like women's sports, I think it's pointless to watch it when I can watch top level athletes (men) and it's more entertaining, but then again I'm not a woman. Hating on women for liking women's sports isn't cool, they really do need their own things so they can compete, feel accomplishment, and reach goals like becoming the best softball and women soccer players. Obviously men are always going to be better at physical/contact/endurance/MOST sports... but that's why we have softball, and women's leagues in general. Putting them on an even playing field is unfair, so is making fun of them because they physically can't compete on the same field... Guys who like women's sports and try and argue softball is harder deserve the hate though. DEF mock them relentlessly, lol.

[@chtr194]

@Lighthouse in the Storm asterisk or not, steroids don't help you see a baseball

[@danbangert2003]

My dad played softball when he was in his 20s and said it was better to hit than a baseball. The first point he brought up was that the ball goes a lot farther then in baseball, so when you hit it goes really far. However though it does hang a little more than a baseball in the air. So in general a major league softball player would not be able to hit a baseball player, and a major baseball player would not be able to hit of the softball pro.

[@mrlapp7916]

That’s not true, there are pro softball players who played professional hardball at some level. Pretty sure they could hit a pro hardball pitcher and vice versa. Major difference between sports is technique, stance in box, timing for hitting pitch and equipment.

[@captainkibbles3502]

@@mrlapp7916 adjustment time switching between leages

[@jonathanselph3151]

“He would be sent...to prison” got me🤣🤣

[@sgdsgdfg]

This whole conversation and argument was thrown out the window when you said 43ft vs 60ft. You can't compare the two when they throw at two completely different distances. You put throwers at 43ft and see if batters can even react that fast at throwing 90-100mph pitches it would be down right impossible.

[@Tatis_taters]

Yeah like jrod judge ohtani trout could not even hit 90 from 43ft

[@devinvisnaw]

hit the nail on the head. very different sports that are hard in their own way. softball players struggle to play baseball and baseball players struggle to play softball. very good video my man

[@dylanporter6864]

Y'all are debating whether baseball or softball is harder meanwhile I'm sitting in the batters box getting thrown a blitz ball and its doin 4 curves going to the movies and back and going right into the strike zone.

[@mattcelder]

I know nothing about baseball and literally watched a video because of the channel name. Now I watch every damn one as soon as it comes out

[@dgill441]

That’s amazing!!

[@letmesleep5390]

Lol same. Don’t even watch baseball but that A rod video and this one were so interesting I subscribed.

[@brianminsk8]

same this channel made me watch baseball

[@RGibby69]

I’ve played both and I’ll say this: Softball is way easier to pitch in, and easier to make contact. A baseball is harder to pitch, but easier to hit far. Also the hiters are a lot better in baseball. You cant put a softball pitcher against a baseball hitter and call that fair. You also cant put an MLB pitcher against a softball hitter and call that fair. Both games have harder and easier parts then the other.

[@CYMotorsport]

I got to 11:50 and was pulling my hair out until you came around haha glad I was patient

[@kvltman782]

I did not expect to see you here. Love your videos!

[@nikopapalambropoulos7624]

@@kvltman782 LOL! the only friends The

[@ValCronin]

I am at 19:43 and am still pulling my hair out. Hitting is only one part of the game I think the title does not fit. Also this is some of the worst science ive ever seen and thats excusing the human variable factor

[@zew1414]

Haha man I was thinking the same thing! Sports Science conveniently leaves out those facts. But after all it's an ESPN show and really how much integrity does ESPN have...?

[@katestingle1687]

yeah, the title doesn't fit because the sports can't really compare as to which is "harder" cuz some aspects of one sport are much harder and some are much easier (pitching and hitting). I think the adequate title should be "comparing hitting and pitching in softball and baseball" or a shortened title that means the same thing.

[@therandomkingofanything4654]

I feel like familiarity matters a lot in the equation as well. Throughout the video, it was all about a softball being pitched to a baseball player, and never vice versa. I’d just think that if you’ve played one sport most of your life, then it would be extremely difficult to do an entirely different way, and that goes for anyone batting.

[@cflow2013]

“Is basketball harder than football?” “Well steph curry can hit 10 3’s in warm ups in a row. I bet no offensive lineman can do that” lmfao.

[@Φάντασμα-μ9γ]

Watched this entire video when I’m running out of time until school Just so I could get a “Both difficult in their own ways”....

[@evangross5481]

what did u expect

[@womp47]

theyre different sports with a lot of different mechanics lol

[@Φάντασμα-μ9γ]

@@evangross5481 anything else😂

[@DIVAD291]

@@evangross5481 Idk, sometimes you hope that these kind of videos would rise above the "everyone is special" bullshit.

[@antoniomolina3612]

It’s baseball lol. If you want me to explain more reasoning I can. But I kinda figured he would’ve made the video like that to not get hate

[@harryparsons2750]

Baseball is clearly much more difficult. Just the fact that the ball is larger in softball makes it easier to hit

[@Proto250]

This is all very interesting but i'm curious as to why side arm and submarine pitchers aren't mentioned for the baseball side. Those two pitching types effect the angle of trajectory from the pitcher to the batter. With the submarine style getting pretty close to the softball angles of a rising fastball.

[@Blop934]

Exactly I was thinking the same thing

[@jdredwine7224]

I think we can all agree that hitting a round ball with a round bat is hard.

[@moshekadoshe123]

Agreed both sports are hard

[@ShinyHunter-mc3ji]

These are two completely different sports. Why are we comparing them.

[@thetruth7354]

Because you can't compare women to men equally in sport so one has to make up comparisons. Sick of this crap, have a sport and may the best sex win out.

[@frankdurp]

They're not completely different sports, softball was literally an adaptation of baseball, originally called indoor baseball

[@baphometic8767]

they're not completely different. golf and miniature golf are very different but not completely different. one is just a really watered down version.

[@ConnorDaigle-c3h]

The problem with a softball picture going as an MLB hitter is the hitter already has a disadvantage. It would be same if you swap the rolls. For instance, Barry Bonds is not built to hit up softball pitch; he's built to hit a baseball pitch just like how a softball player is built to hit a softball pitch not a baseball pitch.

[@billrobertson5895]

I seem to remember an episode of sports science where they did a similar thing with a baseball player hitting against a cricket pitcher. At first the mlb player couldn’t touch it UNTIL he was able to adjust for the rise after the bounce once he got used to it he lit it up

[@billrobertson5895]

@Jacobite Jones dream on limey

[@billrobertson5895]

@Jacobite Jones what you don’t know is baseball and how well baseball players adjust to all kinds of pitching especially the pros.

[@billrobertson5895]

@Jacobite Jones TOP TIER mlb player? It was a player named Mark Reynolds , a 16th round pick , when he was a Rookie or 2nd year player as a major leaguer he was basically a journeyman player with some power with a lifetime batting average of .236 hardly a TOP TIER PLAYER

[@OliveMule]

I'm going to tell my future family that this is the documentary that we will traditionally watch during Easter supper.

[@sirquacksalot7149]

Wtf

[@caferace8418]

As odd as that statement is, it makes complete sense to me. Softball reminds me of Easter with the family.

[@tyroland06]

Ok, so there have been tons of softball pitchers vs. baseball hitters. But, what if we tried putting Kershaw vs. whoever's the best softball hitter is? I feel like this would settle the debate.

[@joshmandm]

1:32 the most famous softball player ever Never heard of her 💀💀💀

[@Nemo2tiny]

What we didn’t mention Field length The fact that they can literally run to hit the ball Basically crow hop into pitches

[@marcelomenor4828]

Yo actually they can run up to a pitch and hit it or something

[@kylesteinhauser2535]

You can also basically throw a ball out of the field from home over the wall in the outfield it’s so short.

[@bobobobo-nj9yg]

A good 70% of groundball base hits in softball would be outs in baseball as well. Longer run to first and the infielders can cover more ground simply due to the dimensions of the field

[@gecgec3409]

No, I used to pitch fastpitch and crow hopping is illegal. But for some reason in men’s fastpitch you are allowed to crow hop, resulting in faster pitches...

[@jacobshellman8768]

@@gecgec3409 you literally can’t crowhop on the mound in baseball tho????

[@austins.5762]

so basically... they are two very different sports and neither is harder because they are incomparable

[@thephilosopher5799]

Yes

[@mothafraker]

Yep.

[@pewwenerwa1065]

There’s numerous videos of college athletes on both sides facing each other, and usually they end the same way, in favor of the baseball player. Of course it is going to be hard on both sides at first, THEY ARE DIFFERENT SPORTS. there would be a similar outcome if it was cricket vs. baseball.

[@Disstantrko]

Finally somebody with brain cells in the comment section

[@TurtleMarcus]

I think the real takeaway here is that tweaking a few parameters (ball size, shorter distances, mandatory underarm pitching ...) changes the game fundamentally. While softball obviously started as a variation of baseball, it has become its own game, with its own unique strategies.

[@crazymachine8928]

Honestly playing against d1 softball is like playing 12u travel ball or lower

[@goocarter7116]

“softball is harder to hit” Carlos Rodon, Joe Musgrove, John Means, and Wade Miley: Hold my No Hitter

[@diggsfather]

add spencer turnbull and corey kluber to that list

[@emojir6972]

The actual Baseball: Hold my Substance

[@mtoohill]

He never mentioned that there are hundreds of college teams so it's easier for one pitcher to dominate much weaker teams.

[@matthewtschetter1953]

Only time I've ever been pissed about being here too early to see the comments

[@ianrotheroe2540]

underrated comment

[@Contentcity951]

Moral of this video is have vandy play the best college softball team and see what happens

[@JohnPorkPay]

Vandy 10-0 mercy win

[@ryankirk7642]

Vandy! A.K.A, a triple a team in disguise as a college baseball dynasty.

[@giovanni921]

Yeah no they’re different sports. Obviously Vandy would win in if they played baseball. If Oklahoma played Vanderbilt in softball, Oklahoma would likely win just because the Vanderbilt players have never played softball. Do you think Lebron could beat a women’s college ice hockey team or something? Being ultra athletic doesn’t automatically make you a god at every sport, it takes practice. Baseball and softball are closely related but they’re still different.

[@mattd7617]

@@giovanni921 Bruh baseball and softball are the same sport with a few differences. Lebron playing a college ice hockey team lol No its like Lebron playing against a college womens basketball team. Baseball is to softball as mens basketball is to womens basketball. Do you think the ball is the same size for men as it is for women in basketball? Its not. Thats funny as hell your comparison is invalid asf.

[@barelyontime]

@@JohnPorkPay if they’re playing at softball distances there’s no way they can hit that lol. It’s a completely different sport they never played before. Women wash them here

[@user-vx3wn1sb8b]

At one point he talked about Softball players being smaller than baseball players and I faced a like 4 ft 11 year old picture who threw 54mph