MLB | Fakes Move

[@LastCallAgain]

2:05 Turner: "Am I out?" Flormon: "Not yet... Now you are."

[@aidancathey5910]

My first thought was Justin Turner so I kept backing it up to see what I missed.

[@russellcurtis2501]

I think the Phillies are lucky obstruction was not called. If you look at other plays pulling the same or similar fake, the fielder never touches the runner. The infielder did put his mitt on the runner. Was it enough to prevent him from getting back safely, no. But that is not what the rule says. Just contact.

[@briley2177]

@@russellcurtis2501 Exactly right. Should’ve been called.

[@georgecaplice]

@@russellcurtis2501 exactly my thought while watching that

[@joeylane07]

@@russellcurtis2501 came here looking for that comment. I’ve seen Baez fake people out like that but never use the glove

[@jpsned]

0:47 "J. C. Martin" was a catcher for the White Sox, Mets and Cubs in the 60s and 70s. He was one of the heroes in the 1969 WS for the Mets. : )

[@storytimewithunclebill1998]

Love the game. Cant wait for more baseball. Great video

[@emilyann9647]

Great vid

[@RelaxLuger]

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[@giggledust4653]

1:49 This play is actually a missed call, this play is Obstruction, the shortstop isnt allowed to touch trea turner without the ball because that could prevent the runner returning to the base

[@rh6625]

Notice how the shortstop pretends to make a tag but keeps his glove away from the runner? He only touched him after the runner was standing on the base. The rule for obstruction is, "when a fielder illegally hinders a baserunner running within the basepath". The shortstop clearly didn't hinder the runner from reaching 2nd base.

[@kdwaynec]

LOL there was no obstruction, it was a pop out and he was doubled off.

[@BookZealots]

This was in my feed. I haven't played ball in ages, but wow, these were great.

[@Groupiebby]

Literally same but I’ve jus been watching these non stop for the past few days

[@BookZealots]

@@Groupiebby I think I will be too. They're a bit addicting, but in a positive, "you can do anything" kind of way. 👍

[@ugaboga9829]

I like playing with balls...

[@Ckpark1107]

@@ugaboga9829 good to hear

[@MyfriendthinkheOJ]

I've never played. Or watched it

[@joepall323]

@2:49, Greinke safe running to second was never tagged with the ball (glove only)

[@joeygarcia2651]

Harrison did that little slide cancel 😂

[@Persuter]

The funny part is that if the second baseman had just kept his glove exactly where it was, he'd have gotten the out. Great bit of misdirection.

[@renoraider9817]

At 2:44 the second baseman tagged the runner with an empty glove. That runner was not tagged out at that time. The 2nd baseman had the ball in his throwing hand.

[@Ghxst_smo]

I was about to say that lol

[@cjholm55]

That's why they did a review and overturned it.

[@abhisekchoudhary3108]

Hi l am from India lt is a nice video l love baseball ⚾️

[@YoshisaurUnderscore]

1:03 Would this play be considered a balk? I thought once you started the pitching motion, you had to follow through.

[@Sizzela]

i was wondering the same, i thought the back foot had to move first

[@MorsecodeZ]

At the time it was legal, but you can no longer fake to third and turn back towards first base. He would have had to step off the mound before making the move to third, or throw to third.

[@betaomega04]

That's definitely a balk.

[@Drknow1984]

100% a balk by todays rule set

[@kdwaynec]

That clip is from 2000, and at the time was a legal move. The rule was changed before the 2013 season.

[@natesturm448]

2:09. Hollywood Casino. I live 8 minutes from there xD.

[@reallifeengineer7214]

@1:35 Both team’s uniforms look so much alike on TV. I can’t tell what’s going on! 😅 Hopefully in-person the colors appeared more different than they did on TV.

[@baifiqjfiwidjriqjfiwidj3557]

Well one is gray and one is white. So it would look kindive different in person

[@michaelbenigni2054]

At 4:42, the second baseman stroked his knee before he touched the base

[@core4090]

nah you can see on the last angle, he doesnt touch him

[@TheThanandros]

So amazing that being a grown kid ,always have had Baseball, Love you Dad for giving me the American Past time ! Thank you for the upload- Thank you Dad for coaching me!

[@sadiesdollhouse5565]

5hj

[@sadiesdollhouse5565]

Same

[@sexislikeemotioninmotion4152]

AMAZING Talents.

[@Thegoaty134]

Yeaaaaaaaaaawaaa

[@pohorex6834]

What happened on the greinke dodgers vs STL one? Was greinke called safe because the ball wasnt in the fielders glove?

[@patrickharris4641]

Yea he never actually got tagged with the ball or a glove with the ball in it

[@jeffreydavis2578]

2:23 nice play

[@thepineapples8619]

Those plays were sick

[@graysonsterling9103]

2:45 he didn’t get him out because the ball wasn’t in his glove

[@khonorbo4011]

But it was in his hand

[@Druid_Plow]

@@khonorbo4011 but it has to be in the hand you apply the tag with

[@Drknow1984]

1:06 "Great move Great move" No that's a balk my man.

[@bobmcgriddle5504]

That was what my first thought was

[@jacobyoung9981]

Yeah there were a couple pickoff throws that looked like balks.

[@kdwaynec]

That clip is from 2000, and at the time was a legal move. The rule was changed before the 2013 season.

[@alanhess9306]

It was a legal move when this game was played.

[@DaddyRCZ]

ok as soon as it happened i was like wait how is that not a balk

[@jungleno.]

2:50 The second baseman tags to runner with his glove, but the ball is in his other hand. The umpire should’ve caught that.

[@nvd2ceb4]

Never been a fan of baseball but would watch if stuff like this happened more often.

[@tylerasheuer5691]

That utley play is goated

[@donstevens2488]

At 2:51 the 2nd baseman tags the runner with his mitt, but the ball is in his other hand. Does this count as an out?

[@alanhess9306]

No.

[@dummyguy123]

Ender Inciarte is very good at dekes! I always think of the one where he fakes the “can’t find it” move and throws out the runner at 1st.

[@fernanditovargas4339]

The fake to third and throw to first is a balk now.

[@SportsVIDZ34]

No it’s not

[@allvlone1755]

@@SportsVIDZ34it is

[@SportsVIDZ34]

Not if it has runners on first and third and they fake to third and throw to first

[@J-Rod2]

Cap it's a yoyo

[@swagmuffin9000]

Wait, it's actually a rule now? That sucks...

[@ethanmcauley569]

1:20 thats a balk he has to throw the ball to where his foot is leading

[@daveh1758]

Didn't have to make the throw to third back then. And once that legal fake was made, the pitcher was just an infielder free to do anything with the ball. Did you actually think everybody on the field missed that hardly-subtle movement, only to be caught by a sharp-eyed youtube commenter years later?

[@DJGaming-qw8hu]

@@vmb1432 the Mets still had black uniforms, they were in Shea Stadium which was demolished in 2008 to build Citi Field, and the camera quality is horrendous so yea, it’s before 2013

[@californiahikebike]

2:39 so is the runner out if the guy tags him with his empty glove while holding the ball in throwing hand?

[@davemiller9570]

Upon review the runner is called safe. It’s all there

[@toddbrown4935]

At 7:00 it is interesting that both the shortstop and the second baseman were in on the deception. Also, in that same play, the white sleeve of the shortstop kind of looks like a baseball (if you're a runner and not paying close attention). Which makes me think: if I was an infielder, I would totally wear a white sweatband at my wrist to try and decieve runners.

[@Unknown-pc9qj]

do you even play baseball.

[@gavinwright7187]

2:40 have made this play and I love it

[@counterstriving]

Great stuff.

[@chloehennessey6813]

1:11 That wasn’t a fake that was a balk! 5:12 That’s a balk as well!

[@alanhess9306]

Nope. When those games were played, a fake to third was legal. Neither were balks.

[@weeweewacker]

Ah yes, the quintessential ironing cheese, absolutely superb

[@katherinecaraballoflorez1526]

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[@steveholman5978]

At 2:50 in the clip, the second basemen misses the tag on the advancing runner prior to throwing to first base. Some bad umping there to call it a double play.

[@ethanchiaverini9513]

Um it wasn’t he got sent back to second

[@keeleywalsh60]

Anyone notice at 2:48 the runner is safe because he tagged with the glove without the ball

[@alanshao7512]

The call was over ruled i believe, it said he was put back at 2nd

[@Druid_Plow]

@Charles Steele actually the rule is that the runner must be tagged with the ball itself, the glove is the only thing that acts as an extension of the ball itself.

[@lilylonestar]

Aaahh, YIIISSSSS!!! Now that's fun!

[@lscales6131]

1:40 this was a discussion in an umpire meeting we had for our chapter. Some felt that him applying the fake tag and keep the glove on him could be considered obstruction. As a Phillies fan I told him to shut up.

[@stephen5009]

Answer me this (please) .. at "2:50" the runner is tagged by an EMPTY glove. If the glove was empty (the ball was in the tagger's other hand) ... why is he called "out"???

[@reallifeengineer7214]

2:50 These guys don’t think enough about the play, before the pitch was made. What this runner should have done, if the fielder IN FRONT OF HIM has the ball, he won’t survive the tag. But he could have run backwards to avoid body-tag, delay the out for just one more second, for the batter to get safely onto first. He didn’t think before the pitch. Guy wasn’t prepared for this play.

[@stewwC17]

Good video

[@MrMcChicken0]

This is a great video

[@SevenDeMagnus]

Lots of things you never knew are legal moves in baseball, much like in volleyball. God bless innovation.

[@MrLokojorge]

Florimon touching Treat Turner while not having the ball is obstructions and should have been awarded the bag or a return to 1st. These are the days without replay and these are the things that turned a game.

[@alanhess9306]

No, that is not obstruction. Even if it was, the runner would never be returned to first base.

[@evader7773]

At the 2:46 min mark NOT an out. Pitcher tagged the runner with his glove. The Ball was in his other hand unless they changed the rules. .

[@alanhess9306]

They haven't changed the rule, they put the runner on second base.

[@evader7773]

@@alanhess9306 ah ok

[@coltonb3850]

I do the fake throw to first when I’m at short sometimes and I get the guy on 2nd out

[@justinball2250]

At about 2:50 Wong tags the base runner out with glove whilst the ball is in his free hand. Pretty sure that’s not legal.

[@Dave-lg5oz]

Ya I thought the same, not sure how that works but don’t look rite lol

[@alanhess9306]

It's not illegal, it's just not an out. The out on the runner was overturned.

[@RegularDude-gm2mc]

5:23 wow he literally bounced the ball over his head

[@skyphantasy2]

The play at 2:00. If the 2nd baseman touches the runner with an empty glove wouldn't that be interference?

[@theapologist6717]

Interference is a bit of a judgement call, Florman was definitely pushing it by continuing to apply the tag, and if you're a SS, don't do that, but because Turner was essentially already out, and especially because he didn't even try to get back to first, there was little reason to call interference.

[@rachitm109]

I'm still lost. Why was Turner already out? He wasn't the one who hit the ball. How does it matter that the batter got caught out. Why is Turner out?

[@rushore1]

Not interference, but also not a tag out.

[@alanhess9306]

@@rachitm109 He is out on appeal when he did not tag up before advancing on a caught fly ball.

[@vulturevic]

Will someone kindly explain why that is not considered a balk please? 1:03 Edit: Never mind. I read further in the comments.

[@drewbarker6033]

Vulture Vic because he did not go toward the plate

[@a1driver982]

My thoughts exactly.

[@kdwaynec]

@@a1driver982 That clip is from 2000, and at the time was a legal move. The rule was changed before the 2013 season.

[@aligamer2966]

Nice

[@webdev217]

3:15 that was clever.

[@ultharlightbringer4248]

I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BASEBALL I DO NOT PLAY BASEBALL I DO NOT WATCH BASEBALL AND YET HERE I AM

[@RemoGutierrez1]

The old Jedi mind trick. 1:39

[@commonsensejoe382]

One of the plays shows the 2nd basman tagging the runner with the glove but ball in other hand. The guy was NOt out.

[@carterschnake5876]

yeah that’s why the overturned it

[@philliphamilton9183]

Absolute big brains

[@thebookwasbetter3650]

7:30 - Every Minnesotan knows this play. It was the game 7 of the World Series fake. It was zero-zero in the eight. If Atlanta had scored they most likely would have won. Instead the game went scoreless to 10 innings when Gene Larkin finally drove a run in. I have his autograph somewhere!

[@RandyRaz1]

@2:50 did not make the tag with the ball, runner should not be out right ??

[@theapologist6717]

Yes, and they returned him to second, had the first baseman went over and tagged him, that would be different.

[@rodrigopulido]

1:08 that's a balk

[@samparker3886]

uh no it’s not

[@valentins4744]

Yes it is because he was going to pitch and he throws the ball to 1 base

[@colbyadams7678]

@@valentins4744 he didn’t make a move to home plate.

[@chrisknowskarate]

This Check 3rd then throw to 1st move is NOW illegal circa 2017ish. But it was legal then. I would also hear arguments that he really didn't step to 3rd deliberately and was therefore a balk.

[@rodrigopulido]

@@chrisknowskarate yeah you're right, this movement is illegal now a day. Before it wasa complete legal movement

[@beefybroccoli3558]

5:26 Frazier was prolly shitting himself

[@OAleathaO]

After seeing videos like this which have older SD broadcast games vs the newer HD games, no wonder people wanted to see the games in person back then. Just the difference in the color brilliance is amazing. But then again this is coming from someone that grew up in the 80s, was never interested in baseball and was always seeing my father watch baseball on the 28" or 30" console TV my family had. :)

[@mbar7777]

1:31 fake tags are considered obstruction this is an illegal play

[@brendanshiepe194]

if he touched him its considered illegal

[@lo1bo2]

I was wondering about that. The fielder correctly stayed out of the runner's way, but did apply a tag.

[@brendanshiepe194]

@@lo1bo2 theres probably a twist to it because if it was as straightforward as it seems a call would of most likely been made

[@lo1bo2]

@@brendanshiepe194 Admittedly I'm not one of those hardcore fans who read the rule book for fun.

[@drdrew3]

A fake tag when you actually touch the runner is definitely not legal today. May have been different rule at the time of that clip

[@jodysin7]

Its funny how 1:08 isnt a balk but if a pitcher wiggles his nose now its a balk.

[@supersixone7414]

the video looks really old, probably done before the MLB 3rd to 1st rule change

[@supersixone7414]

it's still legal in high school though

[@stephencarlozzitl6726]

love MLB

[@markster136]

7:41 Won the world series.

[@jjgging9603]

I suscbribe!!

[@catdogky]

4:55 Man, that is one slick cat!!

[@bALloOniSfOod]

Been a while since I’ve played, but isn’t that a balk at 1:07?

[@therealdarknal]

Yep

[@titanofterror1784]

Yeah by a mile

[@alanhess9306]

No, not a balk. It is a balk now but was a legal move when the game was played.

[@erichenretty687]

did anyone else notice the guy tagged out as part of a double play, the second baseman kept the ball in his throwing hand and tagged him with an empty glove, is that legit?

[@shonklemons808]

No, that's why the double play was overturned.

[@baifiqjfiwidjriqjfiwidj3557]

It was overturned

[@lamosos]

Can someone explain why he did it?

[@halflanding1900]

@@lamosos He feels in a hurry to throw to first base, and so he instinctively kept the ball in his throwing hand.

[@lamosos]

@@halflanding1900 Are you saying he did it unintentionally? This has to be the dumbest error ever.

[@lobitome]

Even in 2021, if you are playing against Molina, just stay on the base until there is a base hit or home run. The GOAT will get you nearly every time, even at 38 years old. Even recently from his knees.

[@jordaninthevibes6820]

Man they are out there like swinging those bats

[@SlickTemerity]

Wow they are really swinging those bats

[@25BEDFORD]

Prisoners would bring a better game. They are great at, stealing, fighting, lying and arguing, all of which are crucial in being a great baseball player. Guess that's why The Longest Yard was such a good movie.

[@AFCompany]

I don’t watch baseball much but I thought 5:02 is called a Balk and you can’t fake a pitch?

[@alexxxxxxxx709]

He didn't make a move towards the plate

[@KB-313]

Alright the blown double play confused me at first.. but how is 2:58 a heads up play? Why didn't he try to catch it?

[@DATcentral]

Made it look like he would catch it when it really went off the wall, so that the base runner wouldn’t start running and score.

[@KB-313]

@@DATcentral genius! thanks for the response.

[@thetiger7474]

fakes move is a fake move of fake moves

[@luvvvvkay]

??

[@IRLprankreactioncookingreview]

A fake move is a fake movement or just a fake move of fake movement

[@jacobstevens7944]

i like it

[@BraydenZ-iy9dg]

Anyone notice 3:21 it glitches

[@brouser4580]

1:07 how is that not a balk he stopped his leg kick!?

[@zattack_4187]

I think it is because he stepped toward third then made a legal move to first

[@brouser4580]

@@zattack_4187 yeah I see that thanks

[@jimmy8377]

That's why I hate baseball. I've seen balks called for literally no reason at all. And then this is somehow not a balk.

[@alanhess9306]

@@jimmy8377 Back when this game was played it was a legal move. It would be a balk today.

[@DukeofHesse-he7bu]

If you go to 2:49, the runner was tagged by a glove that didn't have a ball in it. ooops.

[@alanhess9306]

Yes, the umpires saw it and put the runner on second base.

[@Kekuahiwi]

2:49 second baseman takes the ball from his glove and doesn't tag the runner with the ball.

[@shysavsisters8542]

When they got a double play bc he tagged the runner going to 2 and then threw to 1 if you look closer he didn’t tag the runner with the ball he tagged the runner with his glove

[@a1driver982]

That is one of the things I was gonna say. Theres a few things they should of called but missed. Its funny that certain things only get called against they visiting team or the home team but never both. I don't believe for a single second that every ump calls every game completely fair. I do believe that depending on who the umpire(s) are will determine the game.

[@reallifeengineer7214]

Interesting. My goodness. You are right. I didn’t see that. Why didn’t the team challenge that call?

[@reallifeengineer7214]

@Jason Sim Got it. Thank you.

[@alanhess9306]

They didn't get the double play. The runner was safe at second base.

[@tb.thecheck556]

@1:10 is a baulk he had already started his motion

[@alanhess9306]

It is a balk now but was a legal move when the game was played.

[@minimechanics6825]

When your watching and you do not know what happens you know it’s good

[@blazepatton1710]

nice

[@owenward7355]

I swear Jay hay is the best player of all time

[@TOKUBUNE]

2:37 このプレーの解説をしてください。

[@techlover231]

not a double play, 2:46 the runner was touched by an empty glove, with the ball in the other hand.

[@alanhess9306]

Correct, and the umpires ruled the runner safe at second base.

[@abcd-lo4cr]

2:10 is that a legal tag? since it was an empty glove

[@JessicaZane4realz]

I really miss going to baseball games. And I mean normal baseball games, not like today kind.

[@Mr-Drill201]

The plat at 1:03 was illegal the pitcher lifted his leg he was forced to throw home

[@alanhess9306]

Wrong. It is a balk now but was a legal move when the game was played.

[@csabo1725]

2:38 He can't tag a runner out with an empty glove holding the ball in the other hand. Maybe he was outside the baseline.

[@sretawkcajyrruc]

they gave greinke second

[@happynotredamefan3736]

2:45 I do not follow baseball but don’t you have to tag the player with the hand that has the ball.

[@buzzyboy01plays21]

from what i seen the player got put back on second base since you were correct, you have to tag them with the ball

[@happynotredamefan3736]

@@buzzyboy01plays21 thank you

[@dennis_the_menacesoonerlif9645]

1:45 the shortstop faked a tag, and touched him. So by rule he should be called for interference and idk if that means the runner is safe, but I think Turner should be able to stay at second.

[@alanhess9306]

There is no rule that says this is interference. Turner was called out for failing to tag up on a caught fly ball.

[@dutchvandermak4581]

crazy stuff

[@ryanm.4892]

1:40 & 1:50 How was the SS allowed to touch the base runner without having a ball in his glove? Thought that was obstruction to touch a runner

[@alanhess9306]

It is not obstruction unless the runner is impeded. This is not obstruction.

[@addio8241]

2:47 the ball was not even in his glove when he tagged the runner

[@signiustalas]

@@lilysmith1817 This play was overturned.

[@canadaopen2]

1:05 was 100% a balk

[@alanhess9306]

It was not a balk. It was a legal move when this game was played. It would be a balk today.

[@Misdirecting]

How was 1:05 not a balk?

[@jmayday2653]

There's a runner at 3rd. You used to be able to fake to 3rd and then throw to 1st but that rule was changed a couple years ago. Now it is a balk.

[@mrjohnm10]

They changed the rules

[@bakinncrafts7899]

yeah i do not know how

[@alanhess9306]

@@bakinncrafts7899 When this game was played, it was legal to fake to third base. This is the famous 3rd to 1st move. It is now illegal to fake to third base.

[@bakinncrafts7899]

@@alanhess9306 ok

[@wareaglerebel8131]

2:49 he isn't out. He tagged with empty glove

[@zestest8912]

He does not have to tag him with the ball

[@Druid_Plow]

@@zestest8912 yes he does. that is the actual rule. the glove is the only thing that acts as an extension of the ball.

[@alanhess9306]

@@zestest8912 WTF are you talking about????

[@alanhess9306]

Correct, the umpires saw it and put the runner on second base.

[@kruer]

Hello what’s poppin

[@richitorres1able]

My burnt popcorn was pooping

[@xprodz468]

LOL

[@richitorres1able]

Unfortunate auto correct Eh imma keep it like that

[@Johnny_Miller23]

@@richitorres1able lol