Don't Buy Cerakote Barbells!

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Basement Brandon

Basement Brandon

2 жыл бұрын

Cerakote bars can look really awesome... at first. However, there are some pretty big cons you'll want to be aware of before purchasing one.
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@GlucksGym
@GlucksGym 2 жыл бұрын
Brandon talking about shafts? I'm in
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
At least take me out to dinner first.
@icebox_Intruder
@icebox_Intruder 8 ай бұрын
Giggity
@GerogeChan
@GerogeChan 5 ай бұрын
​@@BasementBrandongiggity goo
@twistedbarbell3950
@twistedbarbell3950 2 жыл бұрын
I do love my Cerakote bars, but I agree on both major points re: feel and application of coating. I think my Kabuki power bar has a better/thinner coat than my Rogue ODL BAR, but it could just be the knurling started out slightly more aggressive to begin with.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
appreciate the insight!
@HughLeFitness
@HughLeFitness 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer no coating as I own the Bells of Steel Barenaked Powerlifting bar and it's baresteel and I love the feel. Where would you say black phosphate fall on the rust resistant spectrum? I have an EZ curl bar that has a black phosphate finish.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Right near bare steel.
@LoveMountainAdventures
@LoveMountainAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with everything you said! I have both the RDB in raw steel and a TDB in black Cerakote and the Cerakote feels more muted than the raw steel. Not a huge issue by any means but definitely a noticeable difference. I been mostly using SS for a while now and have some Rogue bars and a cool looking American Barbell SS heat treated (darker) Power Bar that was a one-off because of the transition to their current lineup.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Dope! Waiting for AB to release something a bit more aggressive soon!
@LoveMountainAdventures
@LoveMountainAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrandon That would be fantastic but I'm not sure if it will happen any time soon. My bar is basically used as a bench bar and feels super grippy in a much different way that any of my other bars.
@MacStrengthCo
@MacStrengthCo 2 жыл бұрын
The problem isn't the Cerakote but the application. I have several Cerakote bars and funny enough I agree with you and like the bare steel bars and SS bars but lately find myself grabbing my Bare Steel Equipment Cerakote bars because they just feel better for those daily training sessions but the coating on them is perfect. I have a bar from Rogue that's so thick you can hardly feel the knurling.
@Xplora213
@Xplora213 2 жыл бұрын
Bare steel = cerakote?! 👀
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, it's def an art form and most barbell companies can't do it super consistent
@DERDM
@DERDM 2 жыл бұрын
And I'm sitting here working out with a black cerakote Texas Power Bar with chrome sleeves 🤨. I got it on sale when I purchased it and I live in humid GA. The knurl is still very good to me when deadlifting but may consider getting a BOS barenaked 2.0 bare steel power bar as a 2nd bar.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Right on! I still like my Texas bars that are cerakote, but they def do not feel as good as their other finishes to me.
@cameronbatko
@cameronbatko 2 жыл бұрын
Big fan of keeping my shafts bare. Zinc Ohio knurl vs bare Ohio knurl is like two different kinds of feelings. Plus us basement dwellers don’t have to worry about the elements in the garage.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Preach!
@scottantczak9615
@scottantczak9615 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate ur you tube segments on cerakote vs bare metal and ROUGE vs texas power deadlift bar.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
Thanks man
@jamestonbellajo
@jamestonbellajo 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, please make that cerakote cleaning video!
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Will do!
@brittneymarie1529
@brittneymarie1529 Жыл бұрын
Thoughts on Cerakote for a Bella bar? I’ve been looking at black zinc vs red cerakote. I know some people say more passive knurling for CrossFit may be better? But not sure how that works.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
It's really a personal preference. I train for powerlifting so aggressive knurl is desired, not so much in crossfit so you should be fine.
@garyjouvelakas2475
@garyjouvelakas2475 2 жыл бұрын
After the two years I've been following you and watching your videos (which help me immensely in deciding what equipment to buy), it is good to hear and see that your advice is still consistent across the board. I went mostly SS because of it and have 1 cerakote DL bar from Rogue which I do like but definitely feel the difference in knurling between the two.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I'm an old man stuck in my ways.
@garyjouvelakas2475
@garyjouvelakas2475 2 жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrandon old man? We are in our prime! Now get off my lawn!
@skullkid112
@skullkid112 2 жыл бұрын
My shaft is lighter too, upkeep is a pain, but I agree; it has to feel right in your hand.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
hey now!
@curiexr8292
@curiexr8292 2 жыл бұрын
Mine is black E-Coat, quite happy with it so far. Having said that, my next barbell is definitely going to be stainless steel.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@HeathWatts
@HeathWatts Жыл бұрын
I have a Kabuki Power Bar in red Cerakote that I like. It seems they did the coating well. However, your point about batches differing is useful information that I’ll use when buying a deadlift bar. Do you live in a humid area? I’m in Philadelphia, so although I’d like to get a bare steel bar, I’m concerned about the upkeep for the bar. What is your opinion about bare steel, humidity, and upkeep? Thanks.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
It's not overly humid, but I run a dehumidifier in the basement to make sure humidity stays below 50%
@HeathWatts
@HeathWatts Жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrandon Thanks. We run a dehumidifier here as well
@MrPanthers23
@MrPanthers23 Жыл бұрын
What about a black zinc bar? I'm thinking about the rep sabre barbell as my do everything. I like the look of the black zonc bar. Does it affect the knurling?
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
Yes but not as much as cerakote.
@asvpab
@asvpab 2 жыл бұрын
I love my ceracoat Rogue Ohio bar with chrome shafts. Best barbell I've ever used to compared to commercial gyms.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@MetalsForBrunch
@MetalsForBrunch 8 ай бұрын
I wish texas powr bar did white cerakote for their new 29mm. Since you tried out their new cerakote on their 29mm would you still recommend cerakote now for texas power bar?
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 8 ай бұрын
The 29mm ones I have are bare steel and black zinc. I wouldn't go cerakote personally.
@vandalfan5816
@vandalfan5816 2 жыл бұрын
I have an elitefts power bar in black cerakote that still feels amazing in the hand
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@droidmac
@droidmac 2 жыл бұрын
I went from a black zinc TPB to a red cerakote OPB and after feeling the knurling, I was disappointed in the lack of aggressiveness. I’ll be passing on cerakote in the future.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Dang, sorry to hear!
@Doviruses.existbaileyonodysee
@Doviruses.existbaileyonodysee 12 күн бұрын
Can you scuff/sand a cerakote or will it stuff it? As one thing i did to my old bar was sand/scuff the smooth parts of the bar. And that difference was night and day for me to grip it in those places (permanant hand injury). And also bits of rust appeared on my 10yr old bar. because my home gym is a garden shed. How would ceracote be in that environment? Would it build up under the coating or just over the years rust a bit her and ther.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 12 күн бұрын
Everything can rust (even stainless). I likely wouldn't suggest sanding it down/off as then it will just be bare steel and oxidize fairly quickly outside.
@SmokinBuddha
@SmokinBuddha 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I got the Rogue Fraser barbell, Rogue Chan barbell, and Rogue Curl bar all in Cerakote. I use some 3-N-1 oil to clean the bars every once in a while.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@LeetGarra
@LeetGarra 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried Rogue's e-coat? Does e-coat have the same issues as cerakote?
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say it's more in line with zinc
@johnnyflores5175
@johnnyflores5175 2 жыл бұрын
I have a black cerakote Texas Power bar and I love the way it looks. I baby it because don't want to mess up the finish.Im pretty sure it will be the last time I get a cerakote finish.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@SamInfectedSt0rm
@SamInfectedSt0rm Жыл бұрын
Man, theyre getting super popular. This was very insightful!
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking a look!
@darielcepeda2187
@darielcepeda2187 2 жыл бұрын
I agree cerakote nulls the knurl. I have a stainless steel American precision bar and their California Barbell and it’s pretty much night and day. Cerakote nulls the grippiness of AB knurl. Having said that I still want a white texas power bar. I also wounded how the cerakote would feel if the my start with a more aggressive knurl could they find a balance to get similar feel by playing with those factors
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Sound like me, only reason I got them were b/c I could in white lol.
@z.l.b.s2288
@z.l.b.s2288 2 жыл бұрын
I was gonna buy a cerekote Texas deadlift bar just to prevent rust but now I’m not sure bc you said the cerekote bars can still rust. My current Texas deadlift bar is completely rusted
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
It's a more rare occurrence. I do like my Texas White Deadlift bar, but the knurl isn't as sharp as the bare or black zinc. Always a trade off! I'd say go for it still in this case since it's not your only bar.
@inaderp5046
@inaderp5046 Жыл бұрын
What would you recommend if neither stainless steel nor black zinc is available? I can get Cerakote, which is currently on sale and the cheapest option, hard chrome or nickel-phosphor chrome. I prefer passive knurling.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
I’d go cerakote in that case
@inaderp5046
@inaderp5046 Жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrandon Thank you! 🙂
@hillsgun
@hillsgun 2 жыл бұрын
The only deterrent you should be experiencing is bar "feel" All of the other cons you point out are from improper application which the manufacturers or applicators have not got figured out. If it is properly applied and cured properly it will wear but should never chip, if it is banged into something such as a rack it will scrape (think of marks or wear on a blued firearm) the metal can rust after the coating is worn off and even the lighter colors should clean fairly easily with a soft brush and a mild cleaning solution. I have applied cerracoat bake on finish (which is the only one anyone should consider) in my gun shop for probably 15 years and while it is not my favorite and I would not attempt to apply it to a bar it is a very good finish when done right. It sounds like much of the problem is preperation, cerracoat requires that the surface be sandblasted aggressively prior to application for the coating to have a good surface to grip, lacking that and a to heavy application will allow chipping.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Oh for sure agree on that and that's one of the reasons I wouldn't recommend them. The people doing it are not at the skill level to do it well consistently.
@turdrhinofiend
@turdrhinofiend 5 ай бұрын
how is cerakote in the cold? is it as brutal to touch as a cold steel barbell or is the heat transfer from the hands less because it is ceramic?
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 5 ай бұрын
TBH I never realized much difference when I was in the garage in the winter.
@buttsechs91
@buttsechs91 2 жыл бұрын
i think cerakote actually has a really good feel for squats and bench. the matte feel helps it sit nicely on your back and i find myself not using as much chalk. for DL though i agree unfinished is vastly superior. i imagine a lot of uspa lifters with home gyms like myself are using a cerakote power bar and a zinc/oxide/bare steel deadlift bar.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
appreciate the feedback!
@chrislyons8951
@chrislyons8951 2 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend the black zinc for humid environments? I’m trying to decide between that and the ISF DL in black oxide.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Zinc will offer more protection, but both may wear over time.
@chrislyons8951
@chrislyons8951 2 жыл бұрын
Is the $50 more worth it for the Texas DL over the ISF?
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrislyons8951 So the ISF is a great bar, but the TDB has a big more space between the collars. It's really a toss up of made in USA vs Imported.
@bobsakamoto1912
@bobsakamoto1912 2 жыл бұрын
What barbell would you recommend for training the big 3?
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
I think the OPB is the best all around for the money and options in finish
@jphtres
@jphtres 2 жыл бұрын
I love my Rogue DL Cerakote bar. Super aggressive and looks beautiful
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Have you used the bar steel version?
@jphtres
@jphtres 2 жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrandon No. I only have Cerakote/Stainless Steel/Ecoat I haven’t used bare steel because of the rust issue. I love SS tho!
@smokinHawkjh
@smokinHawkjh 2 жыл бұрын
Hi have to blast the bar before you put on the cericoat which knocks down the knurling
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know Texas for sure does that as mentioned, but wasn't sure about some of the others!
@JG-po6ff
@JG-po6ff 2 жыл бұрын
How different does the black zinc and stainless steel OPB feel?
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
pretty significant to me!
@temptingfate759
@temptingfate759 2 жыл бұрын
I have been fortunate to have both a black zinc Ohio Bar and a Black Zinc Rogue curl bar...14 months of use, 4 times per week,, they both still look great...
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@CapnDavidMorgan
@CapnDavidMorgan 6 ай бұрын
Basement biceps lookin good dude!
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 6 ай бұрын
😇
@mikelary88
@mikelary88 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Been kinda contemplating a cerakote bar for color scheme & cost purposes. Thanks for setting me back to stainless steel 👊
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Still a good looking bar if that's what you're after!
@MrZactheazn
@MrZactheazn 2 жыл бұрын
My Rogue Matt Chan Bar has held up fine after 2 years of use! No chipping or fade of the black cerakote
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
nice!
@KevinKaneCanada
@KevinKaneCanada 2 жыл бұрын
I use a Bells of Steel cerakote Utility bar for deadlifts because the knurl doesn't rip my shins! And yes, please do a cerakote cleaning video!
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Will do!
@makatron
@makatron 2 жыл бұрын
After using a red rogue barbell went back to SS for the feeling alone. My hands sweat a lot and living in the caribbean doesn't help either when doing crossfit with no air conditioning.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Might be worth the trade off to live down that way though :)
@makatron
@makatron 2 жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrandon I mean it's cold during the winters here in santo domingo mate, it got low 70s F here 😂😂
@wantubod
@wantubod 2 жыл бұрын
I decided to get a Cerakote Curl car from the boneyard which is fine by me. For my main barbell though it’s stainless steel all the way (wouldn’t try bare steel in the Florida humidity in my garage).
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Good choice!
@mattdouglas8900
@mattdouglas8900 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the cerakote USA aluminum barbell collars from Rogue and they started chipping immediately
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
aw man, still awesome collars!
@metalmaggot673
@metalmaggot673 2 жыл бұрын
Liked the video? I wasn’t sure about getting creakier or E-coat when I got my bar couple years ago. Ended up getting an E-coat power bar from rogue. Can you do a video on e-coat? Or a comparison? Thanks!
@Levi.Jaeckel
@Levi.Jaeckel 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve used my E-Coat Ohio Bar really really hard for almost two years and there isn’t a blemish on it. Really impressed with how it’s holding up. I do have a stainless Ohio Bar and a cerakote bar and the E-Coat is more slick than those versions.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
I will add it to the list.
@martystrasinger3801
@martystrasinger3801 2 жыл бұрын
I’m fortunate to have decent climate control in my home gym area. My bars have raw shafts and I just wipe them down about every other month with 3-1 oil “just in case”. I’ve handled several ceracote bars, and even when the knurling felt good they still seem slippery compared to bare steel and need chalk where it wouldn’t be needed on bare steel. Thanks for the video!
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the insight Marty!
@MP-zf1ls
@MP-zf1ls 2 жыл бұрын
It depends on if the bar was designed to be cerakoted to begin with. If they start with a general bar that has a good knurl and then offer it in different coatings from bare steel to cerakote the knurling will be compromised after coating. I have the Rogue Chan bar but it was designed with a more aggressive knurl so that after cerakote it wouldn't be degraded. It is only offered in cerakote over a stainless shaft. The cerakote is obviously unnecessary over stainless but it looks incredible and doesn't compromise performance since it was factored into the final product. Best of both worlds. Honestly if the knurl was any more aggressive it would shred my hands. It's best to buy a product that's engineered with a specific endgame instead of offering different configurations to appeal to a wider market. You end up with watered down versions from the original intent. I absolutely love my Chan bar.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the bars still need to be sand blasted
@jbil8802
@jbil8802 2 жыл бұрын
I own a cerakote ohio power bar and a cerakote deadlift bar. The power bar is red and deadlift bar is black. The knurling on both have never been a problem for me and feel good with the deadlift bar obviously being more aggressive. They're 3 years old and I don't clean them often and they still look great. Even the sleeves still look decent and I would be lying if I said I thought any of my lifts would increase with a bare steel or stainless bar. Cheaper than stainless and less maintenance than bare steel has been worth it for me.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the bare steel versions by chance?
@Jay-bo1gs
@Jay-bo1gs 2 жыл бұрын
No problems with cerakote so far. The uncoated bar in my garage is rusty compared to the cerakote bought earlier than it. No grip problems either on deadlifts. I'm not sure I'd want a sharper bar as my daily driver.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@andrewstearns9276
@andrewstearns9276 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically we are now discussing cerakote bars as a “waste” of money, yet almost all of us in these comments have multiple bars (some way more than others) that all essentially do the same thing…hold weights. 😂 Cerakote bars do add color which can only be done well enough with cerakote. If the trend helps people get into the home gym community because they can add their personality to their gym then I’m all for it. Like my wife wanted a blue bar because she loves the Dodgers and this started her into weight training instead of just cardio. To me though, give me stainless steel all day. Highest rust resistance and just looks beautiful.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
For sure, I mean I'm guilty of wasting a lot of money on a lot of stuff, but I figure if someone is buying their first bar, then hopefully this will give some good insight.
@jsedge2473
@jsedge2473 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much. The real practical application of cerakote is aesthetics - to most people, nothing is going to look as "pretty" as cerakote. It's also one of those things you'll never see in 99% of public gyms so I can see that aspect interesting people as well.
@MichaelBlast
@MichaelBlast 2 ай бұрын
What are some good brand options as far as stainless steel barbells ?
@pob1845
@pob1845 2 жыл бұрын
I own a Rogue OPB stainless and a Rogue Cerakote Curl bar...night and day for the knurling....honestly I got the cerakote because I thought it was the thing out there...but seriously no! Although, the finish is super slick...whenever I grab my OPB stainless, Im like yeah this is the shit ad when I grab the curl bar...im like meh.. ! For sure, Id like to see a video on how to clean cerakote bars. Thanks for the video Brandon
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the first hand feedback!
@darielcepeda2187
@darielcepeda2187 2 жыл бұрын
How much would you sell that white texas power bar for? 😅
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Not selling b/c not easy to get a white bar!
@jollyrocks7357
@jollyrocks7357 Жыл бұрын
Stainless steel barbell not available in my place so which one should I go for cerakote or black zinc??
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
Depends. Black Zinc feels better to me, but can fade with time. Cerakote dulls the feel more, but will last longer.
@jollyrocks7357
@jollyrocks7357 Жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrandon thanks for info just another thing if a cerakote has 1.5mm volcano knurl wl it do fine for deadlift n squats??
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
@@jollyrocks7357 Yes, just know the cerakote will dull the feel, but should be doable depending on the application.
@joshuamartin5095
@joshuamartin5095 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the rogue Chan bar and love it. Stainless steel with cerakote
@HughLeFitness
@HughLeFitness 2 жыл бұрын
Why does it need cerakote if already stainless?
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
It does look sweet.
@craterflakes
@craterflakes 2 жыл бұрын
The high cost of Cerakote is a super important point. If you want the best quality, why not spend a little more for stainless? If you want the best value, why not spend even less for bare, black zinc, etc? Cerakote is lukewarm on both quality and value, and therefore rarely the best option. Great video as always.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
agreed! the only counter to that I'd say is not all bars are offered in Stainless :(
@Thrallbra
@Thrallbra 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry hard to keep attention when the guns are coming out of the arm sleeves. 😂😂😂 And i agree there on coating, I find that cerakote is the most inconsistent in thickness. Even for example the rogue E-Coat is thicker. You can easily adjust the knurl on the barbell with that coat, like an e coat agroo 2x ecoat would match a baresteel OPB. (Just a random example) With cerakote you don’t have that consistency some will match some will be thicker some thinner.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Invested in some smaller shirts.
@mealmapper
@mealmapper 2 жыл бұрын
Really comes down to how much control the company has over the thickness of the ceramic coating. I do not envy having to lay down knurling factoring for how much grip would be lost due to the cerakote layer being deposited. With nothing between your palms and the knurl, stainless surely wins!
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@ryano6254
@ryano6254 2 жыл бұрын
I purchased a bells of steel cerakote powerbar and it scratched instantly on the sleeves, which looks awful, but that actual bar is holding up
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the feedback!
@PBlaik
@PBlaik 2 жыл бұрын
Dumb question: Aside from colour, is the only reason not to go with Stainless cost?
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Usually.
@ronlopez3364
@ronlopez3364 2 жыл бұрын
Cerakote barbell cleaning video please! Thanks!
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Noted!
@tannerconley44
@tannerconley44 2 жыл бұрын
Does E-coat affect the knurling like cerakote does?
@higherlifts420
@higherlifts420 2 жыл бұрын
Yes ecoat is even worse and slick
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Yes any coating will, but in most cases a lesser extent.
@scooobyj8714
@scooobyj8714 2 жыл бұрын
Really like the look of Cerakote but the cost has kept me from getting one. Thanks for the honest opinion about how it takes away from the sharpness of the bar and knurling.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Sure thing!
@moohuhahaaa
@moohuhahaaa 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Rogue Ohio Power ball in cerakote and the knurling is sharp and it's been easy to clean. The color is olive drab. Maybe I just got lucky?
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Have you used a bare steel version?
@moohuhahaaa
@moohuhahaaa 2 жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrandon No, I haven't used bare steel version. I have a garage gym in FL so it would rust in seconds. I'll see how this one holds up over time, but so far I haven't experienced the things you mentioned. You're probably right that some batches are better than others.
@Y1L3NG
@Y1L3NG 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for teaching me the correct pronunciation.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Haha sure thing
@joevandevusse3004
@joevandevusse3004 2 жыл бұрын
Does this theory extend to zinc and finishes like that too or just cerakote?
@lastfirst2241
@lastfirst2241 2 жыл бұрын
Black zinc is even more garbage. It's basically a less durable version of cerakote.
@joevandevusse3004
@joevandevusse3004 2 жыл бұрын
@@lastfirst2241 interesting. So are basically all finishes bad?
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Black zinc can fade in time and fills in the knurling (but not as much in my experience).
@lastfirst2241
@lastfirst2241 2 жыл бұрын
@@joevandevusse3004 Any "thick" finish sucks. I only buy bare steel or SS.
@jamesvanbuskirk8102
@jamesvanbuskirk8102 2 жыл бұрын
happy to see someone finally did a video on this. I got a rogue power bar in black about 4 years ago and love the bar but like you said it is starting to blemish and chipping away in sports but this is in my home gym in my shed that is only heated as I use it. Great video.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment James
@zacharykuhns6060
@zacharykuhns6060 Жыл бұрын
How do you feel about hard chrome shaft for a power bar?
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
Not a fan personally. In most cases I like stainless the best when available. Hard chrome is typically a plating, so you lose some feel.
@thedungeon1288
@thedungeon1288 Жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrandon interesting. I was looking at SS shaft with a chrome sleeve Ohio power bar. Is the chrome durable enough. I was hoping to save 70 bucks
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
@@thedungeon1288 Sleeves don't matter as much to me. I had a SS shaft with raw sleeves I got out of the boneyard that has held up fine. Guess it depends on the environment it's in.
@mariopalacios9876
@mariopalacios9876 2 жыл бұрын
There a cerakote Ohio bar at the gym I go to, And it’s slippery. Anything over 405 it’s hard to grip for reps without straps.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
appreciate the insight!
@MichaelKory
@MichaelKory 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Obtain Strength placement, thank you
@doyourbest999
@doyourbest999 2 жыл бұрын
Michael, I need you to show me how to make something to eat, protein waffles, smoothies, anything. It’s been too long. Stay big.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
always!
@r8der674
@r8der674 2 жыл бұрын
Stainless is the way to go. For less maintenance and better feel. Cerakote looks nice, but that's while it lasts. I have ecoat Rogue rackable bar which sucks as it rusts.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Ah I think you're the first I've heard with issues on the ecoat.
@thedungeon1288
@thedungeon1288 Жыл бұрын
I think the colored bars are ideal for basements but stainless is definitely better for a garage gym or for someone who needs chalk.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
To me the biggest issue is they just dull the feel too much for my liking!
@thedungeon1288
@thedungeon1288 Жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrandon you probably lift more than me and therefore need more grip than I do.
@user-sd8bz2zr5j
@user-sd8bz2zr5j 4 ай бұрын
Rogue cerakote deadlift bar is only cerakote I got and maybe my favorite bar to use of the 8 I have.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 4 ай бұрын
Right on. I think the Rogue can be good if you get a good deal on it, but it does tend to give the least flex of the DL bars I've used.
@user-sd8bz2zr5j
@user-sd8bz2zr5j 4 ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandon I just set my new PR 355.. truly no bend yet ! hahaha
@maciopicio8804
@maciopicio8804 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, from italy
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
Welcome!
@reginaldchesterfield8110
@reginaldchesterfield8110 2 жыл бұрын
Yes to the cerakote cleaning!!!!! Yay!!!
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Should be easy enough!
@Tweel_Weight_Plate
@Tweel_Weight_Plate 2 жыл бұрын
Dampen any metal on metal contact that you can. You'll be surprised how much quieter racking the bar is on presses, squats, and deadlifts when the contact points are muted.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@usfaaartillerist
@usfaaartillerist Жыл бұрын
Cerakote was a gun finish first. I have seen some that have thousands of rounds, three gun competitions and no wear at all. So it does not wear off easily. As far as feel, it would definitely depend on how they did it.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
I think this goes back to it's going to vary based off application.
@andrespenaloza5124
@andrespenaloza5124 2 жыл бұрын
Will lifting on a non cera coat bar get me arms like yours?🤤🤤
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
You mean little? You don't have to lift any bars to have them look this way lol.
@ringperm
@ringperm 2 жыл бұрын
You mentioned in a different video, that you had plans on reviewing the Gungnir alrounder. Do you have any plans on doing so in the near future? I would love to hear your take on it. Most other reviewers are very positive, but I got the impression that you do not share that view, and that makes your review more interesting.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
I do not share that view, which is why I have yet to do the video lol. I'll try to get to it soon.
@ringperm
@ringperm 2 жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrandon Thank you, I appreciate you taking the time to respond and look forward to watching your review.
@massiminimakes
@massiminimakes 2 жыл бұрын
I am getting cerakote because my gym is themed blue/white. Otherwise I would just get a black zinc coating from rogue.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense!
@BrimhallBarbellClub
@BrimhallBarbellClub 2 жыл бұрын
I have a red Cerekote Ohio Power bar and a stainless steel Ohio Bar. The knurl on the Ohio bar feels more aggressive than on the Ohio power bar.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
ouch :(
@thedungeon1288
@thedungeon1288 Жыл бұрын
That is some good insight there. I would have thought that the opposite would have been true.
@YungJuve
@YungJuve 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing about cerakote is the powder coating constantly wears off - it rubs off on your hand and anything else that touches it. Super annoying.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Ah I haven't had that issue yet, knock on wood!
@Bartsnightmare
@Bartsnightmare 4 ай бұрын
Rogue is still my favorite cerakote or not.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 4 ай бұрын
Right on
@JasonLeeno
@JasonLeeno 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know where I can get a knurled shake weight???
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
I'm the North American retailer.
@JasonLeeno
@JasonLeeno 2 жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrandon I’ll take 5 I need all the help I can get lol
@germieb
@germieb Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean by feels but to me it really doesnt matter and my bare steel bars just rust very fast so i dont see a good reason to buy bare steel when the ceramote is going to last years longer years without starting to looking like garbage , especially if you are like me and too lazy to clean it
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
Just a call out based off my preferences. I don't have any issues since I run a dehumidifier, so don't really deal with rust.
@mikeb9396
@mikeb9396 2 жыл бұрын
Cerakote looks good, and wears well depending on the application; however, a bar that is going to get slammed around isn't the best application for cerakote. Any topical coating is going to wear, period, and over the long term is a waste of money in my opinion.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough!
@Nicolas-tt6bh
@Nicolas-tt6bh 2 жыл бұрын
One more vote for a cerakote barbell cleaning video! Thanks
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Noted!
@rickygarcia6441
@rickygarcia6441 5 ай бұрын
Cerakote scratches off very easily. I accidentally hit my belt buckle doing rows and it scratched the cerakote right down to the steel.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 5 ай бұрын
I think part of this will depend on application and what you hit it on.
@Wizard-ys3vf
@Wizard-ys3vf Жыл бұрын
Anyone making a SS deadlift bar ?
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
A few have talked about it, but haven't seen one come to market yet.
@veterancustomwoodworx9858
@veterancustomwoodworx9858 2 жыл бұрын
How dare you sir! Lol.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
:)
@veterancustomwoodworx9858
@veterancustomwoodworx9858 2 жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrandon Love my Freedom Bar by Rogue though
@timt7657
@timt7657 2 жыл бұрын
Good points Brandon. I never really compared the two. My bar is cerakote c70’s by rogue but it’s a darker color and I love it. Maybe if they make it in stainless??? I’ll check it out to compare.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
You can def use a cerakote bar for every day training, I just don't like it comparatively speaking!
@jasonmountain4643
@jasonmountain4643 Жыл бұрын
Getting a PR with the shake weight. 🤣
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon Жыл бұрын
You know it.
@HeCoversMe
@HeCoversMe 8 ай бұрын
Well I don’t own cerekote yet in my bar collection. The more I research the less of a fan of it I am becoming. From chipping on the power rack on day 1 to scratches from a plastic lined jcup. If I got one I might buy it and strictly deadlift with it so it never makes contact with metal on the knurled section of the bar. Thanks Brandon
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 8 ай бұрын
They def can look cool, but I think there are usually better choices.
@Alvsmondares
@Alvsmondares 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I hate the feeling of cerakote bars and will just use them if I know my versa grips are gonna go over the knurling for deadlifts
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
People still use grips??? :)
@FlashGamer521
@FlashGamer521 4 күн бұрын
Hate Cerakote. Just got my first at-home bar, the Zombie Green Cali Bar. Didn't want to wait too long for sales when I hadn't yet had the basics. I regret it already, but I imagine that would have been true for most any purchase.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 4 күн бұрын
At least those were on sale for a really good price!
@TonyNovation
@TonyNovation 2 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't anyone make a stainless steel deadlift bar?
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
My thought is it has to do something with the steel being softer.
@tomlyons7066
@tomlyons7066 2 жыл бұрын
I had a bare steel Rogue Deadlift Bar. I found it was a bit too sharp on heavy DL. Plus I got some rust forming which I didn't like. Went with cerakote and it made it just a touch milder which I found to be perfect plus no rust. Too bad noone makes a stainless DL Bar that would be a game changer. Guess they're limited due to the standard 200k psi tensile strength SS steel so you'd lose some of the whip. Maybe someone will figure it out eventually.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
That is a good call if you actually like something with a little less bite than normal.
@garagegymgoon
@garagegymgoon 2 жыл бұрын
Wearing that same shirt right now...I want my money back! I dont look nearly as jacked haha
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Have to size down 3 sizes like me.
@MatthewBuntyn
@MatthewBuntyn 2 жыл бұрын
[For old time's sake] Do a video about your tattoos
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Damn it!
@Levi.Jaeckel
@Levi.Jaeckel 2 жыл бұрын
Being in Florida, bare steel isn’t a practical option. I do love my stainless bars and I’ve got a couple cerakote Ohio Bars in OD and Pink. I will say - the pink one takes a little extra time to clean up. But, both cerakote bars have been heavily used and there’s no signs of wear or rust or anything. For the style points they provide, I don’t regret buying.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@kozmo7
@kozmo7 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, I agree with you. I wish I didn’t live in humid ass Florida though… stainless all the way baby Random question How are your iron master db’s holding up assuming you still have them? I was afraid the pin gets looser over time
@medievalastronaut5605
@medievalastronaut5605 2 жыл бұрын
I've had mine for 3 years now and they are still as tight as can be. I honestly can't imagine they would ever wear down like that, they're solid af. The price increase since then is pretty rough though.
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 2 жыл бұрын
I sold them during the pandemic to someone who needed them more than I.
@kozmo7
@kozmo7 2 жыл бұрын
@@medievalastronaut5605 Thanks! Even on heavier weights you trust that pin? I’ve heard some horror stories
@kozmo7
@kozmo7 2 жыл бұрын
@@BasementBrandon Gotcha. Thanks Brandon. How long did you have them for? Did that pin hold up for you too?
@medievalastronaut5605
@medievalastronaut5605 2 жыл бұрын
@@kozmo7 ​ for sure man, I'm honestly really surprised that anyone would have issues with them. I have the 120lbs set and I've dropped them plenty of times. The only problem I've had is that they could lock up after being dropped and be really hard to open again. Never have the pins even loosened a little during a workout where I would need to re-tighten them.
@emilsjset5283
@emilsjset5283 11 ай бұрын
This Will be such a minimal diff Just buy what you like
@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon 11 ай бұрын
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