Basic Bass Management Home Theater Set Up Tips

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www.audioholics.com - How to Set Up Basic Bass Management: In this video, Gene DellaSala demonstrates how to set up basic bass management with speakers set to small and multiple subwoofers. 90-95% of Home Theater installations should be set this way. The receiver used in this video is a Yamaha RX-Z7.
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[@charan6767]

I thought I was the only one who cranks up the centre channel a db or two. Dialogue in movies tend to be less audible with the auto settings. Good to hear you feel the same way too.

[@nobodynobody1235]

GREAT TUTORIAL VIDEO, thanks...This is the basic and fundamental rule of thumb when set up a new system. The most important part is how your ear listen and feel after these steps are done. And invest a couple more hours into trial and error to get it to the closest feel u want. I spent a couple of days going back to tinkle with the subs and room correction, and it's WORTH it!.

[@TheJosa007]

I really appreciate your knowledge and the way you explain technical terms.

[@Silmarieni1]

Your videos are very useful, looking forward for more !

[@prayingmantiskung-fu2037]

I would really love to see a video pertaining to the DSP parameters, thank you

[@berthacdellasala]

Great video and even I understood it all!

[@DNADanL]

Love these step by step videos as im more visual for learning. With polk Rti a3 as surround side and back for 7.1 on the sides i will mount them on my walls but for the 2 others in the back i have no walls close lol should i get ceiling mounts or speaker stands? Space is of no concern. Wondering what is best? Thanks! Love watching and learning!

[@victorvalenzuela6949]

Wow!! Exactly what I needed. Short and to the point video. Thank you much..🔊😁🙏🏼👍🏼✌🏼

[@sals26]

Gene & Hugo, ROTFLMAO! Best video ever guys and you've done some really great ones. Stand Your Ground my friends. Your combination of teaching along with great humor makes for the best audio channel ever. Just keep on keepin on. Cent' Anni Sal

[@yogeshsakhare8299]

Very useful and I watched almost all your episodes and did the same to my SONY STR DH550 AV Receiver with wharfedale diamond 220 bookshelf & diamond 220c centre channel(small ). But I crossover at 100 hertz and am happy with that, will be adding SVS sub with my already owned SONY sub. Thanks

[@philiprolenick4475]

I like to make a few tweaks to what Yamaha's YPAO room equalization does. All of my speakers are two or three-way speakers, so it sets them all to Large. I set my surrounds, old Paradigm Studio 20s, to small - same with my rear surrounds, even smaller Boston Audios, but I leave my front trio, which are Studio 40s and a Paradigm center that's essentially the same speaker on its side, set to large - and I set Left and Right front to play their own low bass but also send it to the sub. (This is my answer to multiple subs.) In my RX-A1030 that settng's called Extra Bass. Since the mikes used by all of these room equalization systems point at the ceiling, they disregard the effect of the pinnae of our ears in attenuating sound from the rear. I compensate by traveling the test tone (in the post YPAO tweak screen) around the room while facing forward, and nudging the level of the rears up a db or so until they're the same perceived level as the other channels. I will try adding 1.5db to the front center channel - but it may not be necessary in my room, since it's mounted above the screen at ceiling level, giving a bit of a "horn" effect.

[@melberg9098]

Thx for this video always helpful

[@paulsalmon4771]

thanks Gene great job as usual

[@libation14221]

Great video Gene.

[@stevemott4603]

Very direct and simple ...thank you.

[@bobbywummerphotography9798]

Great video thanks for this awesome tutorial

[@xburgos1]

Great video please do more like this

[@ShaileshPatel-le8cq]

Hi It's good video. But explain about Frant and surround back speaker DB level. Also give idea about eauilizer set up. I just purchased HTR 3072 AVR Thanx

[@TJTV777]

Great Info!! What is the measurement software you use that you mentioned in the video? Thanks

[@aegisofhonor]

does this base management work on an RXV-863? I wouldn't mind using that to do some base management for a sub.

[@martinhancock1565]

Great video. Gene, with all his knowledge, still explains so that even knuckleheads like me can follow it. I have a Pioneer VSX-LX302 receiver that defaults the front speaker setting from small to large when I select the 2 subwoofer setting. When I switch the fronts back to small, the system de-selects the 2 sub setting. Their IT guy didn't really explain why, just said that it is the correct setting, and to leave the fronts on large. Any ideas? Otherwise I'm very happy with the receiver. Good bang for the buck.

[@1Grandhustler]

was thinking of getting the new yamaha RX-A3080 when it comes out this year. What type of yamaha 2 channel outboard would I use for a 11.2 setup?

[@DavidB-ec7bm]

Do you have anything on headphone amps for computers? Your advise is excellent.

[@chicago1680]

Thanks for the info. I just received a PSA V18 and I can't manage it to sound any better then my 12" klipsch that came out 14 years ago. It's a monster but just doesn't seem to bite. It's like a drag car with a geo metro motor in it. looks like it will wreck some shit but doesn't

[@davidgerald285]

Hi Gene, have you tried or review Onkyo tx rz 830, I have it with klipsch rp speakers and a Rel sub.

[@vexq3197]

Great job

[@GK-vj9dz]

thank you for the information. i know this is an older video, but i have a question regarding the sub setup--in relation to everything you mentioned. how should the crossover on the powered sub be set? it's lowest point? highest? some specific frequency? i'd really appreciate that information. great channel

[@David.Horne72]

Audessey set my centre to 150hz and surrounds at 200hz on ny Denon x4200w I changed fronts to small and 80hz. should I change my centre and surrounds ? 5.1 system

[@humansidewalk]

Hi Gene and Hugo, I've got into some problem with my home theater. I did set all the speaker to small @80hz, I set the sub's crossover to 95hz. The main concern is my dynamic isn't there regarding the relationship between my Definitive Technology ProCinema 600 5 speakers, with my Pioneer Elite receiver. My receiver's volume range is from -81.5dB to +15dB, to get an acceptable volume out of the Definitive Technology speakers, I have to crank up my volume in the -20's dB to -10's dB. All of my 4 speakers comes with a 1" tweeter plus a 3.25" mid bass with 3.25" with a passive radiator. The center has a 1" tweeter with a dual 3.25" mid bass with 2 3.25" passive radiator. The sub has a 8" front firing woofer with a 8" down firing passive radiator. Did I make a correct choice with the Definitive Technology ProCinema 600, with my Pioneer Elite receiver?

[@antoniobrown2231]

yep i wish they would bring it back to

[@carbfish]

do u use som app for setup on the screen? cus i can only see it on the display on the reciver

[@iliepavel8250]

I have a basic 5.2 Polk system (RTiA7 towers,CSiA6 central,FXiA6 surround,PSW505 subwoofers) powered by a Onkyo TX-NR1030 9.2 channels with my towers bi-amped. I'm planning to add 2 more in-wall speakers for surround back. Should I keep my towers still bi-amped? What do you guys recommend?

[@tonystrader7216]

Hi, quick question, I'm running a Yamaha AVR 3020 receiver w/NHT speakers and a ENERGY. 12"sub, I see from your video that you run your speaker levels very low, mine are up very high, in fact my center speaker is on 10, sub at 4, etc, is it better to keep speaker levels low and turn up the receiver volume more? my initial on volume is set at +50, max at +18. Thanks

[@trailerpark187]

i have an onkyo tx nr747 with cerwin vega re30 front channel, bowers and wilkins center channel and design acoustic surround channel speakers and no subwoofer at this time. the bass is so strong when i have phase matching on. eq levels on the bass frequency down and tone set to negative 10 on bass. any suggestions to cure this problem. should phase match be on or off. and theres slso a LFE effects section i have it at -20.

[@saber0089]

I read something about adjusting levels after your AVRs auto calibration might not be accurate due to the auto EQ or possibly something else. Is this true?

[@TheSpirituralWackadoo]

Hey man I love your show hey I got it Denon receiver 687 AVR and I can't figure out how to get to them settings it just it will not let me get to the settings I don't understand how to do it can you please help me

[@fredmccarroll3476]

I have a Yamaha RX-V665 7.2 A/V receiver with Klipsch Synergy speakers. System is setup as a 7.1 system. I took your recommendations and set everything to small and at 80 Hz. But when I use the YPAO microphone it changes the front speakers (F3) to large and the Surround L/R to large (S-2). And crossover is changed from 80 Hz to 110 Hz. My sub is the Klipsch SW-450. Would it be best to go with the manual settings or with the YPAO settings. My room is 20 feet long by 12 feet wide by 7.5 feet in height. The only speaker that stays in the small setting is the center speaker.

[@kevystead]

This is the kind of price point and style of receiver I'm looking to upgrade to. Only it doesn't have 12v power on the back for running the power to my subwoofers.

[@marthacalma1197]

Plz do review on onkyo tx-sr601

[@JC-bl9bo]

Now that was an extremely helpful video. I love and watch Audioholic videos but this was a bit different. I would like to see more of Gene doing hands on demos of actual setups in menus of HT receivers. I've been into HT and high end sound for like 15 years and I still make mistakes, and still have no clue on a lot of the settings in these sophisticated HT receivers. They are so complicated its very hard to keep up with and know how to set them up. Great video, appreciate it.

[@Audioholics]

Agreed. WE plan to do more of these so stay tuned.

[@prayingmantiskung-fu2037]

@@Audioholics when you say the mains integration to the sub is 24 DB per octave do you mean -24. And -12 db to the mains ?

[@Audioholics]

@@prayingmantiskung-fu2037 yes, it's implied in the function of the filters.

[@prayingmantiskung-fu2037]

@@Audioholics OK I thought I had it figured out. Thank you for confirming it. I understand it’s a slope. It just continues to drop off that many decibels until it’s not audible And I understand it does that so you don’t get double bass from the mains while the sub is producing those lower frequencies already. Thank you have a great 4th

[@michaelzoran]

QUESTION: I've always been told that when the subwoofer is in Front, the Phase should be "0" or "Normal" while if the subwoofer is in the Back of the room the Phase should be "180" or "Reverse." I fully understand that. For example, if you had the subwoofer in Front, you would make the A/V Receiver say "0" and the Subwoofer would be at "0." I become confused when the subwoofer is put in back. When the subwoofer is in back, does that mean the subwoofer should remain at "0" on the subwoofer itself and only put on "180" or "Reverse" on the A/V Receiver? ... Or, should BOTH the subwoofer speaker AND the A/V Receiver be set to "Reverse" or "180." I'm just wondering if having both the A/V Receiver AND subwoofer set to "180" or "Reverse" will double the effect and make it so there is no longer a "reverse" effect. ... Thank you.

[@shaundavidssd]

dude ...wake up and stop over complicating things ..you simply put 180 phase when it's behind you ...either amp or sub is sufficient....it's really that simple ...why come out with all that shit .. lmfao jeeze

[@johnpauldasilva53]

Considering the setup shown on the video, what is your recommended db audio level for the subwoofer?

[@shivamnrutya]

for Yamaha 3072 I have sub Sw050 and NSP51 as front speaker. Can you guide me the best crossover frequency?

[@umutbirey101]

i use my wharfedale diamon 9.2 bookshelf speakers as large.And they sound much better than small with sub.They are able to create better bass especially listening to stereo music.

[@Boatto141]

Good information especially for a novice like me.

[@humansidewalk]

Good Morning Gene and Hugo, Between the two of you, you guys are doing a outstanding job with your educational sessions here, Love it!! I'm currently installing my home theater in my apartment, I need some feedback on the correct bass management crossover setting for my Definitive Technology ProCinema 600, regarding the Fronts, Center, Rears e.g. 80hz, 100hz, 110hz or 120hz. What about my subwoofer crossover in my receiver? I'm using a Pioneer Elite VSX-LX101, also. I don't know if you already done a review on those ProCinema 600, but any recommendation is very welcome. Thank You.

[@Audioholics]

Hi Al. Thanks for your compliments. I would start at 80Hz. If your sub is far enough away from the listening area, you can try 100Hz to see if you get a better blend with your small satellite speakers. Good luck.

[@jerry1999a]

Hi there, i have two BP9060 speaker, one MartinLogan - Dynamo 700W SUB and a Marantz - SR 7.2-Ch Model:SR5013 Receiver. I will NOT use this system for Home Theater, only for music, what is the best setup you recommend thanks.

[@RustyGamingPC]

I just picked up the RX-A1060 and i came over from a pioneer and am curious if anyone in here has suggestions on what to set this yammy on for music listening. i have a 5.1 setup.

[@bretmuldner]

2 Channel!

[@francof6383]

Is this receiver still worth it in 2018 is still a good amp to pick up for a good price

[@romo_6one998]

Hey new subscriber here, I have an old Sony STR-AV910 receiver and wana hook up JBL SUB powerbass pb10... Sony receiver doesn't have a Subwoofer input or output only has surround sound & A,B, speakers input... Any suggestions ?? PLEASE HELP !!

[@jaredvanortwick9524]

My yamaha rxv-1400 receiver won't let me adjust the front left speaker level..The speaker is working and everything it just isn't giving me the option to let me, but it let's me adjust all the other channels, is that how the receiver made or is their something wrong? thanks in advance.

[@abbeyking09]

Can you guys make a video on how to set up a level properly using SPL. Because mine is on the +db and they are high db like +7db on the surround. I have to get mine 80% of the volume to get it to 75db. And also explaining PEQ on yamaha would help us a lot. Thanks

[@Audioholics]

sure we can. Stay tuned...

[@harpalchauhan428]

Audioholics can I ask a question I did what u said in video set speakers all to small cross over was 80hz left LFE AT 120 on the subwoofer and watched ruronii kenshin kyoto inferno, but for some reason it did not sound as amazing as ruronii kenshin I watched the night before so I stopped it done Audyssey restore looked at cross over for all speakers except sub were 40hz I dnt use any of the other Audyssey EQ and so on only thing I changed was dialogue to + 4db I've limited my volume to 80db only we a 2 year old . But for me the movie sounded amazing and more richer. I'm using denon x4200 connected to denon 3313ud amazing player still if displayed on a calibrated screen no need for 4k for me yet lol speakers are 7.1 set up of dali zensor 7 for front left, right, dali vocal, dali E -12F , dali zensor 3 for my back 4 channels on custom design signature fs104 speaker stands each of my zensor 3 and vocal all have atacam isolation gel pads, and the stands have 7 kg of attacam attabites in each stand, speaker cables are QED genesis sliver spiral for front 3 channels and for back 4 channels it's qed silver anniversary xt and subwoofer cable is x2 qed signature subwoofer cable I use left and right on the subwoofer. for me I think that extra bass back into tge speakers for my ears don't seem to take away much from what it was a 80hz but adds back to it for me the dali speakers are very detailed for movies the bass just gave it more authority. am I wrong to be leaving my settings at 40hz what Audyssey recommend and I've left zensor 7 and vocal to large. I've been into movies since the Sony 735 and have carried on im no expert like you guys but I think I know what im doing thank you

[@harpalchauhan428]

Audioholics hope last bit of my sentace did not sound or mean to be rude the thank was for reading it not telling me how to do my set up 😨lol keep up good work it's informative. I think consumer ignorance helps these high street stores get away with murder selling crappy electronic goods. example Sony EXPLODE wtf gone are the days when Sony cared about there reputation and status blame playstation now it's the $$$$$$$$$lol 😂😂😂😂 F sony NOW

[@sonamrathod9800]

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[@The.Home.Cinema.Engineer]

Gene do you have any experince with Anthem AVR's ? Im considering the Anthem MRX720 and I just wanted to hear your thoughts?

[@Audioholics]

We have one of their new AVR's in for review now. Stay tuned...

[@The.Home.Cinema.Engineer]

awesome ! looking forward to it

[@Alapozo]

Cheers mate

[@jonzylka9474]

Great tutorial. If you were to have tower speakers would you use the “large” speaker setting instead of the small. And then allow for bass from sub and front speakers? Or do you simply recommend using the small setting?

[@rudolfhuijs4526]

I think they did a video on that matter, large vs small. They said if your towers had a 10 inch driver, then yes you can set them to large, otherwise set them to small. A decent sub will make a better job taking care of low freqs, besides you ease up a bit the power amp in your receiver. Just remember the crossover point is not a physical wall, there's some roll off above and under the crossover. Usually, never set your bass to sub + fronts, it sounds overwhelming. But anyway try, there's no right or wrong.

[@MrRlaureano]

I agree with the recommendation that setting the crossover of the main speakers (front, center, surround) to 80Hz or above is better for acoustics. All sound below 80Hz will go to the subwoofer when the AV receiver has the main speakers set to SMALL and the subwoofer set to LFE. However, what I don't quite agree on is setting the subwoofer crossover automatically to 120Hz. The reason why people experience muddy sound is likely due to BOTH main speakers and subwoofer having OVERLAPPING SOUND between 80Hz and 120Hz! From a technical perspective and from my experience, I find the bass to be more seamless when setting the AVR to have BOTH main speaker crossover set to 100Hz AND the subwoofer crossover set to 100Hz! This is also with the speakers set to LARGE and the subwoofer set to LFE+Main on the AVR (more on this later). Even though my main speakers can go down to 60Hz (as determined by Audyssey, and the frequency range of my speakers) doesn't mean I should automatically set the crossover to 60Hz or even 80Hz. Looking at the frequency graphs of my bookshelf speakers show that the DB sound level starts to taper down starting at 100Hz! If I were set the crossover below 100Hz, the main speakers would struggle to produce volume between 60Hz to 100Hz. Since my subwoofer volume is flat across the 150Hz down to 20Hz frequency range, it makes more sense to have the subwoofer produce sound from 100Hz and below since it can produce more consistent volume levels at that range. So why set the speakers to LARGE (vs. SMALL) and the subwoofer to LFE+Main (vs. just LFE)? The reason for this is so that ALL frequencies are sent to the main speakers ABOVE the crossover point. Also, any LFE signal PLUS bass frequencies intended for the main speakers would go to the subwoofer. The sound produced with this setup gives the impression of much larger main speakers compared to when the speakers are just set to SMALL and the subwoofer set to LFE on the AVR. When set to SMALL + LFE only, the AVR sends ONLY the LFE signal to the subwoofer WITHOUT sending the bass intended for the main speakers due to DSP circuits removing frequencies it doesn't believe small speakers can handle.

[@mafosa8519]

Robert Laureano I tried both way bro! The small, LFE and 80 sounded better to me. Sounded muffled in stereo. Only thing I could think it is. The tower speakers 8” and sub is a 12”. Maybe a different effect thing going on. Don’t know. That’s for your input. It all help! Larry

[@mafosa8519]

Large/LFE

[@9704650055]

Ù

[@MaxCaissie]

How do I do this if my receiver doesn't have a display, I have an htr6160

[@Magichunter321]

Does this amp support arc? Cant seem to make it work

[@BAOrsini99]

On the back of my Subwoofer I have a crossover frequency knob. What would you say is the usual setting to leave this at? The Subwoofer is a Acoustech PL-200. Thanks!

[@Audioholics]

Set it to the maximum frequency or use the disable feature if your using bass management from your AV receiver. If you're just connecting your sub to a preamp without bass management, set it to 80Hz as a starting point.

[@tomdaues8279]

Could you please explain how to use the Phase and Low Pass dials on the actual sub thank you!

[@Audioholics]

Low pass filter on your sub should be disabled if you're using bass management in your AVR. Phase is something you should have a friend adjust while you sit at the listening position playing bass intense music to see what gives you the best integration between the sub(s) and main speakers.

[@Musicman369]

I have the Yamaha A/V RX-A 3050,,, when I used the Ypao,, the distances come out 26ft when it's about 8ft away. Center coming out 35ft..? Any ideas on to leave it. I measured it 9ft. Thxs

[@jeremybowersock3809]

From my understanding the distance isn’t the physical distance it sets the delay so sound from all speakers reach you at the same time.

[@jamiegrieve5875]

I have got a yamaha rx 1060 avr receiver but it doesn't have any microphone to set it up. I have got 4 speakers and a front centre speaker and when I have got it in party mode the front centre does not sound very good but the others do so I take it off party mode and the front centre speaker sounds amazing but the other speakers don't sound too good so I don't know what I'm doing. I have never used an avr receiver before.

[@Ty33Budd]

What Surround speakers are considered large and small?

[@panteraowns2515]

Just got an a.v. reciever first one I ever bought it set with the Mic my center and backs to small and tower speakers and sub to large sub is 12 inch. tower speakers have 2 . 8 inch subs a mid and a tweeter . I have seen in a lot of videos say to set tower speakers to small . question is why and what does it do

[@whatzShakin519]

They take less off a beating

[@ammadkuraishi5318]

Pls guide how u attach two woofers to this amp

[@SimoPortti]

Can someone tell what does DSP mean? I've tried googling it and didn't find an answer and the sites used really big words which made my head hurt. I have yamaha yht-1840 and I'm trying to set it up so that there's nice bass also

[@swapnag8393]

I'm a noob with a home theatre setup. the yamaha receiver I have doesn't produce big sound, unless I turn up the volume to 45+. I was wondering why would that be and that's how I ended up here. I brought 2 Klipsch RP150M that tend toproduce great sounds.

[@ss4507]

nice

[@muhammadkhairulkhairul2521]

Sub Yam 315 with Yamaha RXa 1060 matching or not..

[@natsts50]

Why do you set you volume max to +10db? As you said -5db is about as loud as you crank your vol up. Just curious as I thought going past 0db isn't a good thing or that reference was 0db. Could you also go into more detail on how you setup the distance for your subs? You mentioned that you have them set to 16ft and not the 8ft they measure?? Great Vids please keep them coming.

[@Audioholics]

I choose +10 in those moments when we have house parties and really want to crank it up. Normal listening levels for movies is usually -20dB. Sub distance depends on many factors which is why I like to try to measure with REW or at least an SPL meter with the subs and main speakers playing simultaneously. I can do a video on this.

[@Methodical2]

Curious. Why don't you want to have subwoofer and front enabled? When is it advisablek to have both the subwoofer and front enabled? I also listen to music with my setup and have always had my system setup to LFE+Main. I have it crossed over @120 for music and 80 for movies, but have to admit that I sometimes forget and leave it at 120 for movies. Thanks

[@Baerchenization]

The low frequencies are the ones that make an amp struggle, so you "unload" that task to your sub. You want to cross over at 80-100 Hz because that is about where the human ear starts to locate the source of the sound in the room (120 may work fine for you personally), while below that we can't really tell. Anyway, I am writing because I see you are not entirely clear as to what you are doing there. LFE connection stands for Low Frequency Effects-channel. That is an extra channel on movies discs that support it for certain sound effects. So any stereo music you listen to does not have that channel to begin with and you wanna plug it in via the standard subwoofer connection.

[@bustercolin7507]

Having a +dB on your fronts does that make them louder or more bass?I thought it was the other way round plus the max volume as well. I watch some videos that says different. I'm completely confused!

[@rudolfhuijs4526]

buster colin Adjusting to + dB makes your speakers louder. In the Yamahas there are different SOUND PROGRAMS and in some of them you can adjust the output level as well, i.e. for the 7.1 mode there is an adjustment from -5 to +5 and it increases the whole output levels just for that sound program. I highly recommend doing an auto set-up using the YPAO device. But first write down all these level and distance readings, because YPAO would overwrite those level and distance readings. From there I suggest to do some EQ correction to fine tune frequency, bandwith and gain, although this is considered advanced set-up. It's like setting an equalizer, but this is more dynamic. Sometimes it's better to disconnect the speakers you aren't adjusting. Listen to dif sources, and adjust accordingly, it is a subjective matter, there is no right or wrong. Use the test tone function and an SPL meter or get an app to get check output values. The manual adjustment gets stored as MANUAL and your reference would be the YPAO NATURAL, FRONT or FLAT. Listen to your favourite sources and switch between YPAO parameters. Be patient, these could take hours! Have fun.

[@gysdupreez643]

Can someone please help me... I have a 5.1 channel home Theatre system which doesn't have an LFE output nor does it have a 2.0 setup. How will I connect an active subwoofer to it, should I use the high-/speaker subwoofer output to the active sub and then back to the passive sub, I don't think the left and right front speakers get low frequencies as they are sent to the subwoofer... And how effective is this technique, using the speaker level inputs, will that influence the frequency response of the active sub or lead to greater distortion? Really how someone knowledgeable can help...

[@grejdanmihai5456]

you are a G O D !

[@yogabyaakaash]

Some smaller speakers may not go down to 80-90hz. Do we still want to keep them at 90hz even if their lowest freq response is 110hz?

[@AQAVAR]

I LOVE Yamaha. Recently i replaced 5.1 chanel Yamaha RX-V483 system by 7.2 chanel Sony STRD-H7700 , was thinking 2 exrta speakers and +1 Sub will give me a REAL BOOST but what a shame, Sony can't even keep up with lower chanel Yamaha, Sony got very low PUNCH effect on speakers. Maybe i need to change something in settings (sorry, got no calibration Microphone). Is 7.2 chanel Sony STRD-H7700 audio quality at same level as Yamaha? Do you recommend go back to 5.1 Yamaha instead higher chanel 7.2 Sony?

[@MMWechsler]

Thanks for a terrific video, especially for me getting a new Yamaha receiver. You mentioned raising the center speaker + 1.5 db because the dialogue in movies is frequently too low - which I agree. But I noticed that you also have both fronts set for + 6.0 db - now wouldn't that be what is creating more problems? Relatively speaking, you've boosted your front sides far more than the center, which I would think would be boosted more than the fronts.

[@pederolsen2040]

Michael Wechsler which db should your sub be at? Its a 500w 15 inch)

[@HarpreetSingh-cz2zh]

How do we know what our hz set up is suppose to be? I have energy take classic speakers.. Sat: 115Hz-20KHz; Center: 110Hz-20KHz; That’s the info for them. What do I set them to and how do I make the right settings for subwoofer related to my speakers? Thank you.

[@johnhanselman6371]

I am an owner of a working Take Energy Speakers 5.1 system. Only a small powered AVR is required. The whole system is designed for a small room. For a relatively small room the 5.1 Take Energy Speaker system works very well and also the surround speakers look good on the walls. Please note that my Take Energy subwoofer is a down firing 8 inch subwoofer which I believe is standard with the 5.1 package. Your subwoofer db levels are sensitive to the subwoofer room location and type of floor. Subwoofer settings: The subwoofer has an important role considering all your very small Take Energy speakers. The subwoofer db settings would depend on your taste and your room configuration. I personally have my subwoofer in a location that is safe from foot traffic rather than a more audio appealing place in the room. The recommended subwoofer db setting resulting from the test with the microphone used in my AVR audyssey option did not satisfy me. Tweaking subwoofer db levels was necessary for me . Speaker settings: The THX recommendation of 80Hz did not perform well for me. I set all 5 speakers at 120Hz for my Onkyo 515. I recommend setting your speakers as small if that option is available for your AVR. Loss of audible dialogue especially noticeable from the front channel occurs when the room is too big for a Take Energy 5.1 system. My other Audio systems consist of bigger speakers with bigger amplifiers for bigger rooms.

[@galilfan0198]

I have a RX v3900 I can't get the sub output to work, and how do I get the settings to appear on my TV screen?

[@harpalchauhan428]

Dies it have hdmi out to a monitor ie your tv. Connect your amp to your tv

[@IslandNassau]

Further, Should I use 5.1.2 or 5.1.4 or 7.1.2 or 7.1.4

[@MrDantana1]

i cant get this screen to my television.. how do i?

[@davidcole2337]

Good stuff!!

[@mikedinno8413]

So my Pioneer Elite AVR has the option for "Plus" (LFE+MAIN) with Small speaker setting which doesn't seem common as most receivers the default and only setting is Small and Yes. Anyone have any thoughts on this as to why Pio have this option and what it means with speakers set to small?

[@Audioholics]

It's redundent to have "LFE + Main" if your speakers are set to small since the sub will receive LFE plus mains bass along with ALL channels set to small.

[@AtikBayraktar]

i couldnt see the lfe crossover setting. it must be 120Hz right? maybe its doing that automatically.

[@Audioholics]

If there isn't one, then you'd have to assume the receiver is defaulting to 120Hz for LFE regardless of XOVER setting, or its setting it to the actual crossover setting. Most of the newer receivers do keep this independent from my understanding.

[@teslaliveus860]

I like how the Anthem MRX 300 lets you set the crossover for each set of speakers instead of the current Yamaha receivers which doesn't let you do that.

[@Audioholics]

The Yamaha AVENTAGE receivers do allow independent speaker groups crossover adjustments.

[@teslaliveus860]

Ah yes, you are right I forgot about that.

[@pantag2]

Two questions: 1. Why setup the front L, R and C channels as small if you have bigger, floorstanding speakers and a good size matching center? My understanding of Small vs Large is that when it is Small, the receiver does not send the whole range of frequencies on the lower end. 2. Why setup all speakers at 80Hz crossover? Shouldn't this be a per speaker model setting, depending what the lower size Hz value is? For example if my front towers have a low 48Hz, shouldn't I be setting the cutover around that value, rounding a bit up (eg.maybe around 55Hz or so?)

[@astrotrance]

George Pantazis Sometimes on this channel they forget to mention that their advice should be taken as a helpful guideline and not a hard-and-fast rule. Always set up your system the way it sounds best to you.

[@whatzShakin519]

The subwoofers take the strain of the off the fronts it actually sounds bettr you dont beat the hell outta your speakers

[@tkcdac]

I have two subs. Set one for front and the other to rear. Spent a TON of money on them, and in "rear" configuration, my sub doesn't do ANYTHING in most modes on my receiver. Instead set each sub to a "left/right" configuration while keeping them front/back. Any reason this wouldn't work?

[@Audioholics]

tkcdac Never use the front/rear sub setting. It's stupid and I've been trying to get Yamaha and Denon to drop it for years for the very problem you noticed. Use left/right or mono (preferably) so both subs get exact same bass summed signals.

[@whatzShakin519]

Use a diff sub

[@belafre]

Im not a sound audio tech here but my simple work around was using a Y-Jack (1 male/2 female ends) and connected the subs front and back. Im not sure why you would connect them right to left. If thats the case...the balance/fader should be set in the 'middle/0" so the sound can be equally distributed to both subs. As I've said, I'm not a sound tech here!!

[@milesmontemore5060]

If you use the Yamaha YPAO set up microphone to configure the acoustics, why do you have to leave the room while it's working? Isn't your body going to be in the room when you're watching or listening to something? Cheers.

[@tempestious1]

I normally don't tell people for fear of looking weird but i set the YAPO meter on my head and slide down so it's at listening position after all I'm gonna be there as you said

[@milesmontemore5060]

Bloody brilliant idea. I'm gonna calibrate again using your method. Thanks.

[@harpalchauhan428]

Miles Montemore with Audyssey 32 XT I keep the base of the Mic on my top lip in the middle so the top of the Mic is near the middle of my eyes this way it ends up being the hight your sitting at a virtually the same hight as your ear drums Beat that lol try it it's perfect and makes sense in the middle and right hight. Your ear drums not on top of your head is it lool ply try and let me know it's a game changer loool 😆

[@harpalchauhan428]

Miles Montemore on my top lip I had put bottom lool oh yeah don't breath when its sending or receiving tone lool I take breath when it's switching the channel 😂😂😂😂😂

[@belafre]

...another thing is that the YPAO is a great feature but i prefer to manually adjust my sounds to my liking....

[@AntonioPenja]

Hey, you didn't show the crossover level for the sub. Did you set that for 80hz as well? Or is that higher now that it is a sub?.. and a dilemma is the LFE i can regulate at the back of my subwoofer, I have been advised to set that at 80hz as well but at my Denon AVR I have been advised to set that to well over 100hz, for my sub. that is, why should I have two different crossover settings for my sub. one at the back on subwoofer itself and another for the menu at my avr?

[@Audioholics]

If you're using an AV receiver with bass management, bypass or turn the dial of subwoofer crossover all the way up to the max setting. You usually don't want to use both crossovers, especially at the same frequency (aka. cascading) as it could cause an uneven response.

[@AntonioPenja]

Thanks for all the videos and thank you very much for the answer. Just to be clear, I'm not a native english speaker so in order not to have any misunderstrandings, do you recomend to turn the crossover level all the way up in the settings on my AVR or the LFE regulator on the acutal subwoofer? Or on both of them?

[@Audioholics]

Harpal Chauhan It's usually better to defeat the crossover in the sub and use the receivers bass management like we suggest in the video.

[@harpalchauhan428]

Audioholics ok thx need to watch video again lol I got dali zensor 7.1 set up but my back 4 channels are zensor 3 to match zensor 7. but I've got them on custom design FS104 stands, and to my ears the zensor 3 piss on the zensor 7 somehow it's weird especially when there comes a point when to much bass is not a good thing on zensor 7.

[@harpalchauhan428]

Audioholics removed my bad advice lol

[@robford9047]

is it possible to connect to receivers together . also can anyone make a video that explains a receiver from top to bottom

[@derrickmcpherson44]

Rob Ford a rob let me know too when u find out.i was wondering about that too

[@mr.mandudeguy5389]

You could just make it work u have to use one reciver as a primary and it needs a passve output hooked up to the other one. Its ghetto though

[@whatzShakin519]

why?? that is just plain dumb..read some books already

[@Gencehgodang]

Rx a 3080 ...normal or somthing to my avr...ejust bass/trble ....-+ ..after turn off ..and on the bass go to bypss

[@Nytewolf718]

Why keep the speakers small if you have large speaker? What's the difference? If you large speakers do you set them to 80Hz?

[@Audioholics]

Large doesn't just mean big physical size. A large speaker should have enough piston area to produce meaningful output down to 25Hz. If it doesn't, using the small setting is usually a better option in most cases.

[@hackerxzx]

Gene... What about the crossover setting for the sub? Didn't see that option in the yamaha's menu.

[@SSJBen]

Yamaha's LPF is predominantly set to 90hz in the past. Now a days, it's set to 120hz which is basically what everyone should generally do. Yamaha still offers no way to manually change the LPF though, weirdly.

[@hackerxzx]

+SSJBen Didn't know that. Thanks!

[@Audioholics]

If the receiver doesn't give you an option to adjust the Sub crossover, then it usually is dependent on the main channel speaker setting.

[@hackerxzx]

+Audioholics Thanks! didn't know that. Keep up with these great videos.

[@Dchomkara]

Got a quick question whats a good receiver to buy for about 2k plan on having a 9.2 setup Thanks

[@Dchomkara]

btw the speakers that i want to hook up are martin logan 60xt floor 50xt center and motion 15 for the surrounds

[@kylemartinez5154]

+MrGodspd 60Xts require a ton of power to drive effectively so if you're using those I would opt for a separate processor and a good powerful amp. Something that has 275-300 watts of power. Maybe low end receiver with pre amp outputs and an emotiva 2 channel amp? Or use and emotiva processor with it.

[@Dchomkara]

thank you for now i did end up getting the yamaha rx 2060 hopefully down the road go for separates since i did spend a lot of my budget on speakers .

[@royalexander9813]

it's getting too complicated nowadays just need :step 1-2-3 come on engineers put on ure thinking cap

[@royalexander9813]

it's getting too complicated nowadays just need :step 1-2-3 come on engineers put on ure thinking cap

[@Alex4SiliconValley]

I have 6" bookshelf speakers as surrounds. Would you consider these small speakers or large?

[@SSJBen]

Small. Any speakers that cannot play down to 20hz without distortion and with a high volume IS NOT a large speaker.

[@feedyourspeakers]

What about the Klipsch KF-28's?

[@Cash2112]

+SSJBen Please provide some examples of full range speakers that can play down to 20hz. I haven't seen any. . .

[@saber0089]

+Cash2112 They generally at least have a 10" woofer, cost a lot of $$, and are mostly used in music listening applications. For a movie theater you may as well have four good subeoofers.

[@sandeepcheema8279]

What if I have big tower speakers

[@vincentking8267]

A lot of LCR speakers have their own crossovers, why not set to large for full range frequency and let the crossovers do the work?

[@TXSuburbanHomestead]

Where is your distinction on large vs. small speaker size? Are all towers automatically "large" and anything else "small"?

[@Audioholics]

most speakers don't qualify as "large" even if they are towers. Unless they have meaningful output down to 25Hz, I'd keep them small in most cases.

[@TXSuburbanHomestead]

Thank you!

[@anthonyp291]

how do I use two subs?

[@whatzShakin519]

Easy

[@dwaynephilpot6154]

Question what do set the subwoofer crossover at.