Basic Kumite of Kobayashi Shorin-ryu | Naonobu Ahagon 【基本組手】阿波根直信先生

One of Shuirte Kratate which is the oldest style "Kobayashi-ryu".
Ahagon sensei (79 years old)still teaches the original Karate style which he learned Karate from shorin-ryu founder "Choshin Chibana sensei".
If you would like to contact sensei,to join or make a seminar,please mail to the following address.
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Okinawa traditional karate association:
www.odks.jp/
Okinawa Karate Kaikan
karatekaikan.jp/
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[@fredlamberg]

Traveling to Okinawa just to have an opportunity to train under these sensei(s) is on my bucket-list 😁

[@kbanghart]

Mine as well, the upper belts in my association all go to Okinawa on a regular basis. But I would be so overwhelmed lol.

[@fredlamberg]

I could see how there could be a slight level of being overwhelmed. I, myself, would feel a similar way too. Mainly because I wouldn't want to accidentally offend them. I'm American and we can be offensive without even trying. Lol

[@seanjensen3124]

@@kbanghart you indicated that you are a member of Reihokan. Where do you train, and who is your sensei?

[@chilldiscord4112]

I have trained with ahagon sensei.

[@kbanghart]

@@seanjensen3124 I train in Sacramento, with Rod Brayfindley. I'm just now seeing your comment, so I hope you see mine here. Rod really wants to get in contact! I can give you his #.

[@shazamsakazaki]

The founder of Shotokan Karate, Gichin Funakushi, was taught the way of Shorin-ryu Karate. Therefore, it can be said that Shorin-ryu is the origin of Shotokan, and both schools share lots of similarities.

[@sharonzamora7410]

Yes they do a little change in Katas but very little🙂

[@otisbeck5327]

Both Shotokan and Shorin Ryu are from Shuri-Te. Also, Korean Tang Soo Do has its roots in Shorin Ryu/Shuri-Te (though its direct ancestor is Shotokan). Tang Soo Do is the Korean transliteration of Okinawan Karate's former name, To-te which means "China Hand."

[@TheRenegadeMonk]

Shorin ryu didn't exist when Funakoshi was learning karate.

[@byronstukenberg9515]

Cool! I love these videos!

[@senseisoto5013]

This is traditional Karate. This Kihon is for practice. I believe that in real live they will fight different.

[@toraguchitoraguchi9154]

I think they are wasting their time. In the Kihon Kumite they should attack and counter with full speed and at a closer distance. Decades ago when I first did Kihon with a Okinawan Dojo (After achieving nidan in Shotokan), I could not respond fast enough in "Sandan Gi Kumite" Three steps forward 3 punch attacks jodan chudan gedan tsuki, and the distance was so close, I got hit every time initially. Soon managed to block and counter in Kihon Kamae at full speed as if fighting/Sparring. Unfortunately not many dojos around the world do it this way. While White Belts do it step by step, but shodans should do it faster, sandan even faster and godan black belts even faster still. Too bad most dojos stick to white belt level with this training, making it useless in relation to real kumite.

[@senseisoto5013]

@@toraguchitoraguchi9154 thanks for sharing your experience. I see your point but we need to ask them directly why they are doing that way?? What they want to achieve?? Is there are any kotekitae involve in this training??

[@toraguchitoraguchi9154]

@@senseisoto5013 Actually, there wasn't. The training with Kotekitei is usually parry-strike the hand then punch...often we see schools, stuck with a partial syllabus. Kihon Kata (Fukyu kata) done by a senior dan sensei should involve advance body mechanics and CG control but because 30 years ago they learnt fukyu a certain way, passed their 9th kyu training and moved on....they never worked to change their fukyu kata....they can do their Suparimpei or Kusanku like a 5th Dan, but their Fukyu remained static at junior grade level...granted with better kamae and more stability but essentially still a junior level. Same goes with kihon kumite or a variety of things they learnt...it is a very common thing.

[@kbanghart]

Actually, I'm training in this exact association under Sensei Ahagon in this video. Believe me, this is simply forbasic demonstration only. Real training goes faster and harder with your partner. Please don't believe that only what we see in the video is the complete training.

[@freneticpudimbr6070]

Awesome

[@karatesalamanzen]

Arigato !!

[@kbanghart]

Excellent!! I'm honored to be training in this system.

[@Reihokan_student]

Who is your teacher?

[@kbanghart]

@@Reihokan_student Hi sensei! I train with Rod Brayfindley in Sacramento. We had a great time with you in Chico in 2019. It was an honor. my wife Jen loved it as well.

[@Reihokan_student]

Yes, I remember you both. Please send my best to Rod. Wishing you continued success. Please visit if your ever on the east coast. 🙇🏽

[@rodgerbrayfindley1704]

Hey Mark. Best to you. I’m working Ken hard, and he’s really rocking it. I loved training with you. Keep up with that excellent program of yours.

[@user-kr1jh1wi4w]

Cool sir 👍

[@mane1571]

Muito bom

[@Shivaguru_official]

Please make a video about shito Ryu training

[@AMysteryGhost]

You know, I find it funny that people are saying they are bad black belts when the train completely differently off camera. Ahagon Hanshi is the teaching student of Chosin Chibana.

[@kbanghart]

Yes, the real training is completely different, especially for black belts of course and higher. People just comment whatever they want on social media lol

[@rohitnath6139]

Upload videos regular

[@abualabed2579]

ous💪💪👍

[@metalema6]

6:29 Is this a translation error?

[@devildark6663]

y cuando vuelven a romper la tabla?

[@safdarkh786]

So thats it? All for the yakusuku kumite (and some katas!)?

[@kbanghart]

It's just one video

[@juliovalencia1318]

The rest you will have to train or go to Okinawa to learn it. Lots to learn. A life time.

[@mehmedkyuchukaliev1348]

Guten morgen !

[@jayg4272]

Name of soundtrack please?

[@edojanic2942]

Obviously older masters are much much better than young. It is unusual that sensei doesn't demonstrate techniques,he only looks.

[@benlung8248]

What is meaning of the red white belt in karate?

[@fredlamberg]

Master*

[@seanjensen3124]

Those wearing the red and white in the video are kyoshi, holding ranks of nanadan (7th) or hachidan (8th).

[@shubhamsoni7069]

Et todayne ka tarika video banana

[@huseyinzorlu4790]

1.😍

[@PhilDancer]

Those two foreign guys need to work harder. Letting the side down guys. Haha

[@methodtraining]

💯! Black Belts?? I’m in shock.

[@robertwelch3240]

So, naysayers, have you contemplated actually training? Just asking...🤔

[@kbanghart]

Probably not lol

[@kbanghart]

@Z.B. That's because you haven't viewed it all

[@tacticaltemplar875]

Why is the distance so off? If you step back that far there's no need to block because his fist can't reach you anyway. To make it worse, your fist can't reach him either! And can karateka please stop using oi zuki as your usual practice punch for defense? No one actually attacks this way; even other karateka almost never use this technique is kumite.

[@kbanghart]

Because this is just for the video, and simple demo. Obviously the real training is more realistic and much harder and faster, especially for the black belts.

[@barrettokarate]

My first training partner in jiu-jitsu came from this branch of shorin-ryu. He dedicated almost three decades of his life to it earning fourth degrees in both it and kobudo and making trips to Okinawa with his teacher to train with Ahagon at this very dojo. Then one day after he had earned his blue belt completely abandoned it. Told me he had told his instructor he would no longer accept promotions an dedicated his training to jiu-jitsu only.

[@seanjensen3124]

Joe is a really good martial artist. Very smart, patient, and humble. I was honored to train with him many times.

[@rodgerbrayfindley1704]

Sean is a really good martial artist. Very humble, patient, and ... oh, am I quoting you, Sensei Sean? You were that guy for me. All the Brayfindleys respect you seriously.

[@DDarkLeGenDz212]

Hahahahaha... when most of the comments are compliment but you can see some basic flaws and yet they're black belts...

[@kbanghart]

No one is perfect. We're all learning, all the time.

[@dannichols6261]

@FuzZ, Yes, & I have to wonder it they're *all* really black belts; for instance at ~0.54 he's punching a whole 12 inches away from his attacker's body after blocking, whereas the attacker when doing the same sequence, comes *much* closer, often flicking the other's gi, which I think is more correct. Interesting to watch nonetheless, I think.

[@DDarkLeGenDz212]

@@kbanghart yes, but what im pointing out is, that if you have that kind of movement, you should be in lower belt and not black belt.... Me, as a white belt karateka... can see their mistakes...

[@DDarkLeGenDz212]

@@dannichols6261 also, if you look on the foreign guy's kumite and kata, you can see that his foot moves everytime he complete a move... meaning to say that his foot is not rooted on the ground, unequaled distance, and the center of gravity is unstable... not enough practice and basics... but have "black belt" *just sharing* ... there is that one guy, an air force who joined to our dojo.. in the first day of our training, we saw him wearing a gi and a brown belt, so that means he's already karateka before he joins... so my sensei was like... "wow, so you're a brown belt in your former dojo... so why don't you show me some kihons and katas"... and after that... my sensei said.. "okay... stay here after the training, i'll give you a white belt, and from now on you'll return being a white belt... etc and stuff"....

[@DDarkLeGenDz212]

Though... literally I'm a white belt, but i just dont want be promoted... *very expensive*

[@heriantomartawidjaja8775]

I love Shotokan style better. I have to admit

[@shanefield7413]

ROBOTIC .UNREALISTIC

[@kbanghart]

It's all part of training. It goes along with more realistic training.

[@everusa15]

The kids have bad equilibrium, bad posture, it is to up front, their punches do not start from back foot spreading to hip movement and ending with torso rotation and throwing the punch with the final extension. VERY POOR TEHNIQUE FOR TRADITIONAL MARTIAL ARTS.

[@kbanghart]

Whatevs

[@methodtraining]

💯

[@joannetraigo2505]

Im not a karate expert but i did 6 months o boxing, and did mma training for a year with bjj twice a week. We normally spar.. i dont know but i think these guys are wasting their time, wothout any resistance or sparring, in boxing you learn fast how to punch properly, parry, bob and weeve and foot work.. in jiu jitsu you learn easily with basic chokes andd armbars with sparring at the end of the sessiom.. mma will teach you how to spar with take downs.. these traditional karate might take years to master.. i guess a whitebell in bjj with 6 months of boxing can beat this tma karate guys.

[@Seifukusensei]

Depends on the person. And remember arrogance can get you killed.

[@Pomisher]

Karate in Okinawa is a life long experience. My version of Shorin Ryu, didn’t allow you to spar until you reach Dan rank. So a Sho Dan was considered a beginner’s rank. Kumite was more hard hitting than now. So yes, a boxer could very well beat a TMA of lower rank. The intent of karate seems more social. The average karate probably could hold his own. There were old masters that were brawlers. Their styles reflected that.