BASIC ROUTING EXPLAINED IN DETAIL ON THE YAMAHA QL AND CL DIGITAL AUDIO CONSOLES

and in depth tutorial on the basics of routing within the Yamaha Ql and CL digital audio consoles yamaha cl1 , cl3 , cl5 , ql1 , ql5. This is also the #1 requested video at this time. chapters below
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00:01:50 Routing to the stereo and mono bus
00:05:51routing to a mix - mono
00:10:26 routing to a mix - stereo
00:12:24 matrix routing
00:16:55 stereo bus into a mix
00:19:05 "4rth order"
00:25:14 basic DCA
00:28:29 basic oscillator routing
00:30:29 closing remarks

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

Just wanted to say, I do not think I know everything. If I stated something wrong or maybe could have said better. Please leave a comment. This channel is all about good times and learning !

[@lucasritzman]

you literally saved me with this video. i have a gig with a ql1 friday and have to route everything and had no idea how to. THANK YOU!

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

Dude ! Hell ya. Glad I could help !

[@DrumRoody]

How did the show go?

[@victorruiz1211LkzWorld]

He got fired Down at the prairie bar

[@andrewj.682]

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[@sean1606]

In the UK we tend to use Matrices (matrix) for routing to PA / speakers. Especially in theatre, when you have lots of various FX speakers, large systems etc. Great video, getting back behind a CL board in a couple weeks and this was a helpful refresher

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

Same. I use matrix routing for most pa sends except for subs on aux.

[@atleyflenner]

This is the only channel I have found that ACTUALLY explains how routing works

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

Glad I could help! And its that exact reason I made this video. All the best.

[@RodrigoPiccoli]

Loved this video man! I needed to use this console for the first time last weekend. For monitors, and i really enjoyed! Learning on the fly was a little tricky but i got it very fast. Now looking for more info and videos about it i ended here. A lot of tricks and tips here! Thanks for doing that!

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

Thanks! It means a lot. Guess I'm not wasting my time

[@ProDrummer]

Man thanx so much!! Mixed a few ties on that board, but never understandet the routing. Now i know more. Thanx again. Great stuff!

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

Awesome! Happy mixing

[@pvanb291]

I'm about to do a show on a QL5 for the first time, instead of the A&H Qu-32 I've been using for a long time. This video was great to outline all the stuff I'll need to know! Thanks heaps :)

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

You are very welcome ! Happy mixing , have a great show

[@Randoz001]

Yo great video bro, I haven't touch the Yamaha line since the 02v96. So this brought me up to date. this one of the best videos on the this board.

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

Thanks alot !

[@kevingarcia1992]

Great stuff! Really appreciate the work and time you took to explain in detail. Especially for me now that im hoping between using the QL and the Ls9 now. Some Ls9 vids would be great too!. Thanks again< cant wait for more of your content.

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

Cool. Most of the stuff is the same. But I have an ls9 too. Maybe I can bust it out for some stuff.

[@kevingarcia1992]

@@KINETICPROFESSIONALS That would be awesome!

[@fatihmajor7452]

hey bro !!! how can i sent my LR to matrix on Ls9 32. for external recording device ?

[@onlymessinproductions]

Great channel, lots of useful info on the Yamaha QL/CL desks. Keep it up!

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

thanks!

[@AndroidG13]

thanks bro. this was so clear and straightforward. even better than the yamaha produced videos

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

My dude! Happy to help

[@thenameisbrooks]

Great video, I’ll watch this a couple time times to really get it

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

Awesome

[@shockwaveaudioproductionsl4976]

Great video with clear explanations! Thank you!

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

Thank you

[@saulsant-stafrace80]

Ye bro, thank you. I have a job in a tv studio coming up that I will be using a QL5 at and I'm sure your videos will help a lot

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

Cool. Happy mixing!

[@alexmakinen7898]

Thanks, this was a really well made tutorial!

[@hakonbrunborg6450]

Really great tutorial! Thanks a lot❤️‍🔥

[@MadisonMMusic]

Great video! Love that you're using Dead Sara tracks

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

Dead Sara kicks ass

[@AnilKumar-zo2eu]

Thank you so much sir for your packaged information & Love you sir.

[@mrcoxa]

This helps so much ! Thank you !

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

happy to help

[@ramdogproductions]

Great vid!!

[@Bojitoooo]

Thanks a lot guys !!

[@FOHGeek]

Yamaha's routing is a little bit more complicated than other desks due to the utilization of Dante protocol - it's a networked protocol rather than a point-to-point one, so Dante channels on mixer don't necessarily correspond to the ones on stagebox. Since the mapping between the physical ports and Dante channels of the stagebox is fixed, the patching process has two steps: Step 1: Mapping Dante channels between the desk and the box - either through the desk's automatic config or via a laptop Step 2: Mapping input sources of processing channels and output destinations of mix buses to the desk's Dante channels. It can be like: "XLR In 6 of Stagebox No.2"->"Dante Output Channel 6 of Stagebox No.2"->"Dante Input Channel 14 of Mixer"->"Input of the Mixer's Processing Channel 38" "Output of the Mixer's Bus No.12"->"Dante Output Channel 18 of Mixer"->"Dante Input Channel 5 of Stagebox No.1"->"XLR Out 5 of Stagebox No.1" Technically you can also wire two stageboxes together and patch the inputs of one to the output of another so that they'll work like a snake cable. It's ridiculous but possible.

[@PeterKeuneVideos]

Would be nice if you showed us how to route other than using the nominal value. Knowing the original and longer way would also help if someone didn't want to use the nominals

[@themoregoodmusicstudio3294]

Excelente!!!

[@mez9518]

Good video, thank you! Would be great if you show patching outputs on 2-3 RiO devices, macbook, for record etc. using Dante Controller. Not so many videos out there on that topic.

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

Cool. I shall put it on my list. Thanks for the comment !

[@pierrebousalcedo3704]

Thanks for this

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

You are welcome

[@ramseyanderson5195]

Well done!!

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

Thank you good sir

[@rcottojr]

Good afternoon. I've worked with Yamaha consoles for about 10 years. I have been using in ear stations like Aviom and DAL over Dante. I switched to wireless in ears using the Aux Mix Sends in stereo with the Monitor Mix app, all pre fader. The issue is, when I mute a channel or a group, it mutes the aux mixes also. Is there's a way to keep the sends unmuted when it is muted on the FOH mix? it is puzzling as the band members area costumed to listen themselves at all times...

[@mrjazzycharon2]

If you just want to remove a channel from the main mix, don’t mute it, but instead tap the “ST”-button to remove it from main bus.

[@chronicmango]

4th order to get extra inserts is kinda goated. Definitely impractical. But also, just in case. Serial compression gets a little wild sometimes haha

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

Haha I agree. But , I’m going to post my lav / podium work flow where 4th order makes a bit of sense

[@Chescko92]

Hi. I've been watching several videos on your channel, and your content is very helpful. I have a question, and I hope you can answer it when you have time. Using the CL/QL, is there a way for the sound of a channel/instrument sent to a mix to have no processing or equalization? In other words, for that mix, the sound of the sent channel/instrument should be the faithful sound that reaches the console. The question arises because, typically for live events, we take the sound of the instrument that reaches the console and equalize it to sound good in the room. However, when it reaches the musician's monitor mix, the sound they will hear is processed/equalized, and it may not necessarily sound good in their in-ears, or the sound they hear is not what the musician has equalized for their monitors. Thanks!

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

Ya, you can route the channel to the mix or matrix dry and not add any eq or processing at all.

[@Chescko92]

Thanks!

[@LordJersyBizarre]

Question, For 10:10, is not assign to stereo or mono. So, if you send a channel to a mix, the channel itself stops beign stereo/mono automatically??? Also, since you change it to Omni 1, it means that the speaker is on output 1, correct? and by default, 15 and 16 are LR Stereo, that can be taken by any output, correct?

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

It does NOT Automatically stop being in the stereo bus. It’s always in the stereo bus unless you uncheck the stereo button on the channel. Correct , because I went out of Omni 1 it means I am going to a speaker . But not necessarily, I could be sending Omni 1 as a return on a channel or into some out board gear. That’s why it’s called an Omni. It’s a line level transport (bus). Stereo defaults to 15/16. But; any mix , matrix or stereo outputs can be routed to any omni. They are not fixed , rather user assigned.

[@celiaanzaldua8173]

I'm just trying to find out how to do a phone interview with mics being able to talk back to the phone and the phone being able to hear the mics. :(

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

Use a telos . If it’s a convential rg11 style phone. If it’s a cell phone . Use a trrs break out cable . Take the line level headphone out from the trrs to the console , send back into the mic input on the cable . Depending on the phone you can use a usb interface.

[@minhdang3858]

Hi my problem on QL1 is I do not know how to connect speaker to the console, it got no sound when I patch input to Omni. But the direct out got sound out. But I can not control on my fader. Do you have any video of how to connect property. Thanks so much, I really stuck on this console. As I am using this my 1st time.

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

Did you patch your output to the Omni or our you using your stereo bus?

[@FrostyFRS]

Thanks man. Super helpful!

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

Great to hear !

[@janaznowski8820]

Is it other way to route mix or matrix to stereo bus, without using input and output ports?

[@mrjazzycharon2]

You can route mix-busses easily to the stereo bus by simply tapping their “ST”-buttons just as with regular input channels. By doing so you can for example realize sub groups. But matrices can’t be routed to any other place, they’re always an endpoint.

[@sorenraa]

Hi 2 questions: 1. How can I activate a channel to be default? I´m using channel 1-8 and the rest is OFF. Nothing happens when I press SEL OR ON. How can I activate them? 2. Is it possible to route my effects to any fader in my scene? So I don´t have to switch between my main scene and my mix(effect scenen)? I´m using a QL1 Thanks

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

1. What are you using channels 1-8 for? Is your input patching correct ? Sounds like a patching issue. 2. Yes. On the right side of the rack , where your effect exits. rather than an insert you can select a channel. Left side (effect input) can be an insert from something , right side (effect output / return) can be the insert return you used. Or , select a Chanel. By default it will patch the effect as an insert on the output side for you. You have to select the fx output and select your desired channel instead . This will will give you the wet effect on a channel.

[@schwarzefiktion7975]

@@KINETICPROFESSIONALS 1. I´m choosing channels from the A bank and copying them to bank B, and then I´m mixing the concerts from thoes channels (in bank B). So if I have the drums from 1-8 and other instrument from 9-12, then the rest of channels are blank, and I don´t know how I just make a default channel. Is it not possible when I work in bank B? 2. This makes sence. So I´m choosen the channel that I want to effect as the input and the fader where I want to control it as output?

[@sorenraa]

@@KINETICPROFESSIONALS 1. I´m choosing channels from the A bank and copying them to bank B, and then I´m mixing the concerts from thoes channels (in bank B). So if I have the drums from 1-8 and other instrument from 9-12, then the rest of channels are blank, and I don´t know how I just make a default channel. Is it not possible when I work in bank B? 2. This makes sence. So I´m choosen the channel that I want to effect as the input and the fader where I want to control it as output?

[@arloh1604]

Can I connect a TIO stagebox to a QL5?

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

yes you can

[@arloh1604]

​@@KINETICPROFESSIONALS Awesome thank you.

[@SydneyValette]

Whats the diff between DCAs and Mixes then?

[@mrjazzycharon2]

A DCA is basically just a remote control for other faders. These other faders can be completely unrelated to each other, could even be inputs and outputs at the same time. A bus on the other hand is a mix and behaves therefore like an input channel, which can be routed to other places and processed with EQs, dynamics, inserts, etc. With a bus you could for example create a sub mix of the drums and compress that. Not possible with a DCA. With a DCA you could for example control the volume of multiple matrices simultaneously, each one connected to another speaker. Not possible with a bus. But there are also cases where both could be used, for example when you want to control the volume of the drums without the need of further sub mix processing and routing. Using a DCA in that case could be beneficial for example, because then you don’t lose a further mix bus for that.

[@mrjazzycharon2]

Wouldn’t be another way of 4th order routing without external cables be this route: input->mix->main->matrix? This would give you 4 (respectively 8) insert points.

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

Was thinking about this during an op today . Sure , but you would be limiting your self. If you return on a channel you can route or clone that new channel to many more places . I think it’s just a much more versatile way to route once you get to that level or routing.

[@mrjazzycharon2]

@@KINETICPROFESSIONALS Another idea: Wouldn't it be possible to route signals back through Dante internally instead of omni-outs?

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

@@mrjazzycharon2 ahhh yes ! Glad you brought that up. That’s a thing I’ve been talking about lately . I will patch some of mixs to dante, grab that mix with vst rack and return on a channel with the plugins in between. You can insert dante on a channel on a Ql for a similar per channel workflow. I haven’t tried Without having an intermediate device like a ruio16 yet internally.

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

@@mrjazzycharon2 great discussion point !

[@joshblair8344]

why do you keep referring to your panning as "justified" I'm simply curious as to where that vernacular came from

[@KINETICPROFESSIONALS]

More of an editing term. You can justify an image, graphic or paragraph to left, center or right. Just been burned in my brain.

[@Tapepusher]

Video starts at 1:08

[@philscott7949]

8:25 The 3rd most important activity on a mixer (in my experience), after input and main output is the aux sends (just as John demonstrates). Nearly every mixer with aux sends has a pre/post button. It blows my mind how Yamaha went to so much trouble to hide the pre/post option. No button anywhere in any menu or on any page of the built-in Yamaha manual (help button) allows simple access to pre/post. Plenty of information of how to use the pre/post page, but access is hidden. The ONLY answer is (as John demonstrates) to precisely double tap on a virtual knob at precisely the correct tempo. Too fast, too slow, or in the wrong part of the knob and you get nothing. Yes, Yamaha is a musical instrument company (with some motors), so it is expected you will eventually learn to play their mixers, but it would be nice to give the teachers a break with some of the fundamentals. 😁

[@MK-cf3hf]

I wish you would have given examples while you explained. but great vid otherwise

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