basically the Civil War (2024) discourse

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[@eyesack2007]

can’t believe they made a movie called civil war but didn’t include either captain america or iron man smh my head

[@comixproviderftw_02]

Captain America: Civil War, the only GOOD Civil War.

[@Modie]

I also like to shake my head my head.

[@remliqa]

@@Modie Shake it off.

[@TheRealLegoDocOck]

And it has no Spider-Man too smh

[@emblemblade9245]

Or Axl Ro

[@TheSuckoShow]

It's about an hour and forty nine minutes.

[@LangstonDev]

🤌

[@connorhaley3190]

Ha

[@bluecollarmenproductions]

That’s brilliant

[@fulltimeslackerii8229]

Holy fuck this is clever

[@codyd13]

Best answer.

[@TSDTalks22]

I can see why Civil War caused so much discourse. On one hand I don’t like the sokovia accords, but on the other iron man has Spider-Man on his team. It’s a hard choice to be sure

[@axt2]

for me it was seeing Cable debuting the super-power of having smartphone-like abilities, literally one year before the iphone released. Talk about awkward.

[@LuisSierra42]

And then he said "It's Civil time" and proceeded to civil all over the bad guys

[@zeroconnection]

Keep going mate. After video essays, text based or regular essays are a close second.

[@TheRealLegoDocOck]

@@LuisSierra42 he proceeded to start a war that was very civil

[@nagger8216]

Honestly, super weird how the pro government guy basically hires and grooms a 16 year old vigilante that takes the law into his own hands, gets shot at by police on a regular basis and is considered a public menace.

[@luiginastro8831]

It's about a war that's civil.

[@CrazyEight-art]

They better make a sequel and call it 2 civil 2 war

[@zangoloid]

why is it called civil?

[@GnosticAtheist]

@@zangoloid In case you are not trolling and actually ask a serious question; the word "civil" in this context derives from the Latin word "civis," which means "citizen." Thus, it means "citizen war" and refers to different groups inside its own nation at war with each other. To act "civil" only means to act in a sense that is communial, that you "work" with the community thus are a good civis, as opposed to a criminal.

[@happilyhadesbound]

​@@zangoloid "May I kill you please?" "Sure."

[@LuisSierra42]

@@CrazyEight-art Civil 2 War

[@davymugire8581]

in jesse plemons voice: "what kind of civil war viewer are you?"

[@billbill6094]

"Mr. White"

[@Count__Dyke-ula]

"So that it? We're some kind of Civil War?"

[@stellviahohenheim]

civil war is short for civilization war

[@DrDiabolical000]

"I... don't.. know..."

[@MeatCatCheesyBlaster]

At least we can admire Todds disdain for fence sitting

[@pajamapantsjack5874]

“Ok here’s my pitch: it’s a movie about nothing” -Jerry Civilwarfield

[@Aver888]

The second guy covers that.

[@Robocop4000]

Who wrote this? Its called "Civil War"

[@TheArthkm]

What's the deal with Civil Wars huh? I don't get it

[@robertross45]

Lol!

[@YumLemmingKebabs]

What's the deal with war journalists?

[@FormerBunsenBurner]

I love the implication that they've been sitting there for 18 hours trying to guess what Civil War was about and only then got to the most obvious answers

[@OfficerFriendly2006]

They started on really complex and wordy answers but now they’ve given up and are just desperate.

[@thomasryan8581]

It's about a bidding war between 2 construction companies over who gets to work on a bridge

[@spencer8218]

Now the violence makes sense

[@Wired4Life2]

Francis Scott Key, dis some Baltimore shit.

[@LaRavachole]

So it's basically Team Fortress 2?

[@2bHero69]

No, that's Civic War

[@playman350]

I would watch the fuck out of that

[@comixproviderftw_02]

I think we can all agree that Texas and California teaming up is the most unrealistic plot point of this whole movie

[@MJTRadio]

I mean, they were independent countries opposing Gilead in The Handmaid’s Tale and The Testaments. It’s not even original.

[@chinsaw2727]

I thought that was a blatant centrist writing move so the movie would actually get green lit since there would be no blatant demonization of either political party. I.E. “both sides bad”

[@kchampz1093]

"see! it's not about our own political discourse! california and texas are teamed up!" GREENLIT

[@Roy_1]

You realize a lot of Calibanicans moved to Texas?

[@vabp8985]

california is more texas than texas once you leave the big cities

[@OintmentNailhead]

I swear… if I keep scrolling and see something stupid like “the absolute war, he’s never civil” I’m gonna go crazy

[@Wyrm3]

I just want people to be genuine again. I hate irony :(

[@memevondank1197]

That civil will never war

[@projekttaku1]

@@Wyrm3 The absolute irony, he's never genuine!

[@minerman60101]

@@Wyrm3 They took your genuine search for human connection and nuanced discourse and ironied all over the place

[@hiten_style]

@@Wyrm3 That's my secret, Cap. I'm always irony. - Iron Man, Civil War (2024)

[@LordRambo]

Its about a greedy land developer who wants to demolish the beloved capitol building to build a bustling new shopping mall, and the plucky youths who must band together to stop him. Mischief ensues.

[@AgentHeroic]

Question: Are these youths doing an off the cuff donation drive involving dances and musical numbers, or is this a Home Alone situation where they fight off the inept construction crew arriving to demolish the structure with traps that should murder them but leave them comically mugging at the camera in pain?

[@dolsopolar]

that's incorrect

[@thathorrorguy1974]

​@@AgentHeroic It better be that second one or I'm refusing to watch it

[@cameronharding2878]

​@AgentHeroic It's a reality show where you die If the plucky youths die

[@cacophonousantiquarian8803]

​@@thathorrorguy1974some sort of Boogaloo?

[@jens2049]

Lmao 'Jesse Plemons is a scary mf' was literally my letterboxd review

[@futurestoryteller]

Exactly how many times is this guy going to be cast with his own wife?

[@thehousecat93]

It’s only their second time in a project together, isn’t it? They had the second season of Fargo and this. I vote for a hundred more, if only because that means Kirsten Dunst is in more things, which would only be a good thing.

[@futurestoryteller]

@@thehousecat93 They're literally also a married couple in "The Power of the Dog"

[@Count__Dyke-ula]

​@@thehousecat93 The Power of the Dog, aswell. Beautiful film.

[@TheGameCapsule]

He's not as scary because he's fat now. He was scarier in Breaking Bad

[@varden1928]

"What are we, some kind of Civil War?" Jesse Plemons, probably

[@bobafettjr85]

When Plemmons said, "It's Civil time." and warred all over those guys.

[@stormtraitor6545]

“Maybe the real Civil was the War we made along the way.” - Captain America cameo… probably…

[@chizorama]

A director so cowardly that he had to go with red shades over Oakleys & a Maga hat...

[@johans3164]

Didnt Iron man said that?

[@EE-iv5ej]

Imagine how Texas and California teamed up California: "SAVE MARTHA!!!" Texas: "WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME???!!!"

[@Sarez____-it4ks]

Sounds like they're probably just trying to gain independence at the same time and temporarily worked together for that.

[@caiden3396]

That BvS scene made scene from what I recall. It just wasn't conveyed that well. Something with Bruce having mercy in the middle of an action to off Clark because of the emotional resonance of Clark's mom being in danger who was also named Martha...Okay, that sounds dumb on paper but is better in action.

[@yanmagno3]

@@caiden3396it really wasn’t better in action tho, hence it being immortalized as a silly meme

[@vk-eg3ro]

No

[@ince55ant]

martha was the name of the woman who cleaned their homes when they were growing up

[@Rslb7.]

"A man divided against himself shall not carry the thing." -Abraham Lincoln, probably.

[@thomasp.1533]

I'm pretty sure the civil war was about slavery, but that's just what every single history class I've ever taken says about it, so what do I know.

[@emblemblade9245]

Nu uh it was about STA-

[@DannoHung]

@@emblemblade9245 I didn't know that Dido was alive back then.

[@JaMeshuggah]

My state approved propaganda taught me

[@pointlessgarbage8587]

@@JaMeshuggahas opposed to the other state approved propaganda!

[@JaMeshuggah]

@@pointlessgarbage8587 you are saying nothing

[@benjrc3611]

“What we have here is a failure to communicate.”

[@Belegor]

"Some men, you just can't reach"

[@DRAGNFLY]

That's the way he wants it, that's the way he gets it. I don't like it any more than you may.

[@jens2049]

Jesse Plemons scene is a 10/10 thats all that I know for sure about this movie

[@SynGirl32]

100% by far the best scene in a movie that's fairly well-made at best and bafflingly shallow at worst.

[@jens2049]

I dont think its shallow if you really get what its doing ​@@SynGirl32

[@thedapperdolphin1590]

@@SynGirl32Not sure how it’s shallow at all. It isn’t explicit about the political stances of the factions, but that’s the point. It’s supposed to be a warning not to do this, so not turning anyone off by explicitly backing an ideology (beyond authorizations being bad in general) helps it serve the purpose. And it fits with the protagonists being reporters. There’s even a line like, “We’re not to here to ask questions. We’re here so other people can ask the questions.”

[@buggus1173]

That scene sucks ass too. How did the Asian dude not understand the fact he just needed to say a US state. Jesse Plemons doesn’t have a fucking lie detector

[@ThePhobophile]

⁠@@thedapperdolphin1590*BUZZER SOUND* sorry, that is incorrect.

[@FineTuxedo]

It’s about some super soldier who fighted iron man :)

[@maxx21285]

*fought iron man. Hope it will come useful the next time.

[@genericname2747]

@@maxx21285 he foughted iron man

[@genericname2747]

Spider-man was there :)

[@cr1tikal_arc]

@@maxx21285 *fighted

[@adarshsridhar6051]

Foughtinged*

[@Mario_Angel_Medina]

The closest thing to a positive comment on the themes of _Civil War_ I've heard so far is "an alarming amount of people seems to think that having a war happening on your backyard is awesome, this movie is about how it would _actually_ be the opposite of awesome to have a war happening on your backyard" ... so apparently is a movie made exclusively to piss off WhatIfAltHistory and no-one else

[@MaddSpazz2000]

Tbf you make it sound great.

[@francesthepossum1812]

THANK YOU

[@remembertotakeshowerspleas355]

@@MaddSpazz2000 It is. I kind of wish it didn't steer so far away from contemporary politics. It would have been great if it were proud boys and antifa people war criming each other instead of the generic factions we see in the movie.

[@tendo649]

@@remembertotakeshowerspleas355 Agreed, even if one IRL rn is a lot worse than the other- in a hypothetical civil war scenario antifa is absolutely turning the violence up to 11

[@eaglesfannnn]

@@shatteredteethofgodno i want it to feel meaningful and relatable. Like when Iron Man chose to enforce the Sokovia Accords but Captain America said no way man and then they fought in an airport and I fly there you know

[@MachiavellianPenguin1234]

The Man Carrying Thing civil war between him and Woman Carrying Man was crazy. Most bloodiest war in Man Carrying History

[@ManCarryingThing]

so divorce is funny now

[@superwhine]

old news

[@MachiavellianPenguin1234]

@@ManCarryingThing Very

[@dariy1999]

Wait what

[@TheDCT0]

@@ManCarryingThing *click*clack* Always was.

[@p33zuh81]

ah yes the carrying war between man vs. thing

[@neondemon5137]

95% of the people talking about the movie haven't even seen the movie.

[@shan4680]

The maths checks out.

[@NegaRenGenX2gay2lift]

is there a point in seeing it if there is nothing?

[@thecrispymaster]

That's most media tbf

[@damonburr6510]

@@NegaRenGenX2gay2lift well since you've already decided that the movie is about nothing, then I guess there is no point in you seeing it.

[@sambreyer7344]

@@NegaRenGenX2gay2lift Just go see it, its fine

[@b3z3jm3nny]

It’s about ethics in photojournalism

[@Numbskill]

It’s about Kirsten Dunst going on a cross country roadtrip with her buddies to see the sights and casual deaths this beautiful country has to offer

[@larryargent503]

I really want that comedy mash up edit. Treating the movie like a Summer buddy road trip movie. Sounds like good times.

[@Numbskill]

@@larryargent503 I’d pay to see that

[@worldofdoom995]

Not even cross country. From NYC to DC

[@ChrisKeziahHyde]

Just seen it today and I'm still trying to process it. I think a lot of the discourse revolves around the fact it doesn't take a political stance (which it silently does) and how it's not about left vs right which is definitely not the point of the film. The film is more of a case about journalism and their purpose to remain impartial. How it explores three different generations of journalism from the Dune guy (can't remember his name soz) to Kirsten and Wagners and then to the young girl who tags along. But yeah that Jesse Plemons scene hits hard.

[@TheGamingRapper]

The fact that it doesn’t take a political stance makes it that much more interesting to me but it definitely won’t be for some

[@emblemblade9245]

Wow, well the trailer I saw for it gave me absolutely none of those impressions and made it just look like a cheap thriller lol, thanks marketing

[@ChrisKeziahHyde]

@@TheGamingRapper it does take a slight political stance as Offerman is basically a Trump allegory. I get exactly what you mean though as how politically charged everyone is atm people want to see division when we need to be seeing the consequences of what further division can have.

[@ChrisKeziahHyde]

@@emblemblade9245 trailers aren't the best at showing what the film represents and I think it's because they have to appeal to as wide a demographic as possible. Marketing in general doesn't appeal to me, I usually only check out a trailer if I'm interested in the film's synopsis. That's why I wanted to see Civil War because I felt it wasn't trying to say anything too political but show the consequences of how damaging an active conflict can be. We have in the west been fortunate to have very little conflict so when we see reports of Ukraine and the Israel/Palestine conflicts we can have some distance but to see it on home turf (so to speak, I'm not American but I did feel an empathy) it really puts into perspective how delicate this situation is and how worse it can become.

[@matheusarruda6462]

Arguing for the sanctity of journalism while crediting two fascist transphobes as journalists thanks lmao

[@pacorka9943]

It's about getting the Muppets back together again to Stop an evil oil baron from demolishing the old studio

[@davidgeslani48]

No, that's communism

[@helvete_ingres4717]

The Muppets movie has far more sophisticated political commentary tbh

[@speed78655]

"Enjoyed godzilla x kong" BRUHHH THAT'S NOT FAIR MAN

[@emblemblade9245]

Fuckin loved that movie

[@jens2049]

Seek help ​@@emblemblade9245

[@jaythemovieguy7751]

On his Letterboxd, he gave it 3.5 stars, so he's probably just messing with the fans.

[@ThePkmnYPerson]

Isn't it about how getting photos of a war is a frightening and dangerous job? ...Or Captain America fighting Iron Man?

[@B-26354]

The real heroes are the New York Times journalists... That's the message I think the film was trying to portray.

[@zanerussell6365]

No, I think the movie was about how photojournalists go to streniuous lengths to get warning photos meant for activism but said activism fails when the spectacle or tragedy is idealized and the images become art. She literally says the theme near the movies beginning. "I took these photos as a warning for what we shouldn't do back home, but they've had the opposite effect." (Or something like that.) Effectively the whole movie was about, "hey look at this, this is what you've all been calling for on your online forums but look how bad it actually is! Hence why there really is no sides or resolution outside slaughtering everyone in DC. My only issue was, after the movie says this near the beginning it really becomes about nothing but showing us how horrible everything is. Although I did enjoy the movie.

[@andy-gamer]

@@zanerussell6365i think she was taking pictures of spider-man

[@hugoalvarez8307]

I have no idea what this is about but I'm all here for the carrying of things

[@futurestoryteller]

A card carrying member of man carrying things

[@datwee7576]

all I know was when I saw it in IMAX, 4 people had to walk out of the theatere after being progresivly more and more disturbed and the woman behind me screamed and started crying during the Jesse Plemons scene. Not sure what to make of that put if you want to know anything about the movie, it works

[@sangmoon2464]

It is about journalists covering a war which just happens in the USA to make a title that will hopefully attract people to watch it.

[@thedapperdolphin1590]

Also, civil war is bad, so let’s not do that

[@aidangordon2713]

​@@thedapperdolphin1590Also, Ron Swanson is secretly a Mussolini-style brat.

[@Viraus2]

Also you have more guns than a UK Civil War movie and guns are fun

[@galacticboy2009]

​@@Viraus2I will say all the Irish civil war movies I've seen seemed incredibly armed, despite being at least 50% UK

[@Critical1ce]

That is basically what it is. We had one and it sucked

[@joedatius]

When i found out that Texas and California joined forces i got the same shock of bewilderment as i did when in Homefront they tell you North and South Korea joined forced to invade the USA.

[@jlev1028]

At least in Homefront, it was more North Korea conquering the South and uniting it under anti-West fascism.

[@joedatius]

@@jlev1028 I googled to make sure but the way its worded is even dumber then what i think both of us remember. essentially Kim Jong Un took power and... somehow led a PEACEFUL unification of Korea and then just a whole bunch of weird shit like the US just refusing to help defend Japan for no reason. funny stuff

[@patsagonsaechin3006]

I don't think they joined because of theirs alignment in ideology. They did it because they happened to have common enemy.

[@vincememmo9583]

@@jlev1028 So basically the same reason they joined forces in Civil War

[@Hakman78]

Went and saw this on Friday. A family came in late, brought their 3-4 year old into the movie at the exact moment the guy in the tire was being lit on fire and stayed for about 30mins after that then all left. So weird. What an awkward night to the movies

[@woodjohnn]

Fucking lol! What a waste of money!

[@eternalfailure4081]

I know the joke is "the absolute legend, he never misses" but with these sketches about discourse, you really never miss, this is exactly what everyone's been saying

[@dyoung6003]

the marketing for this movie was more misleading than wonka not being marketed as a musical fantastic movie though

[@ipadbossbaby4558]

I agree in a sense but tbh it having texas and cali joining up made me immediately go oh okay this is gonna be something else.

[@RelaxAndSmokeMeth]

movie was garbo

[@dyoung6003]

you break my heart, relaxandsmokemeth :(

[@No-Lie-I-Want-To-Die]

Should've just made a movie about The Division, Hollywood. Freaking dumbasses.

[@sambreyer7344]

@@ipadbossbaby4558 They aren't joining up to form their own country, but to break away from the US together, and then separate. The movie even states that after the conflict they will probably just turn on each other

[@ASwitchDog]

Civil War? Oh thats what I was watching... I thought it was strange when neither Godzilla nor Kong showed up at all.

[@sinistrality]

He never civils, the absolute war!

[@Alexq79-]

Oh god i just civiled myself and war’d my pants

[@derpherp1810]

Civil War is about captain american and ironman beating eachother up. At the end of the movie they stop fighting and make out to solve their differences.

[@emblemblade9245]

Oh so it’s just Godzilla VS Kong

[@alexmanrique2280]

It's when captain America is mad at iron man

[@San-li9ml]

The trailer popped up before this video and I still don't know what it's about

[@TheOblivionMan]

If I wanted something carefully sanitized of any hint of an actual position on any of the things it's "just asking questions" about, I'd go play literally anything Ubisoft's released in the last ten years.

[@futurestoryteller]

Bro, Watch Dogs 2 is like a socialist manifesto.

[@Wyrm3]

​@@futurestorytelleralmost, kinda. It's more concerned with just hating corpos and big tech than it is allying with any specific ideology, but it's definitely supposed to be vaguely left wing.

[@hirocheeto7795]

@@futurestoryteller Being anti-authoritarian isn't 'socialist.' Is the game vaguely left-ish and progressive? Sure. But it doesn't make any argument about economic or political revolution, just that 'authoritarians are bad and we should fight them.'

[@billbill6094]

​​@@futurestoryteller WD2 is left leaning for sure but I wouldn't go as far as to say anyone supports any specific ideologies greater than their own groups. They just want to fuck shit up in a big way, it's about fun as much as it is about helping free citizens.

[@billbill6094]

When they turned Sam Fisher from a seen it all skeptic of his country's incessant need to start war to just a guy who helps the war just cuz. Man's decisions used to end wars and free countries and now he's a glorified operator.

[@orgluzman561Peace_IL_PS]

can’t believe they made a second civil war but it didn’t include huey long jack reed or douglas macarthur.

[@Sarez____-it4ks]

If Lincoln doesn't show up and say "I'm here to declare war, and act civil and I'm all out of civil" and proceeds to dropckick Ironman I'm not watching it.

[@florinivan6907]

Its about cashing in on societal fears while not engaging with the issues.

[@thedapperdolphin1590]

I’m guessing you haven’t seen the movie if that’s your take. It’s explicitly a warning not to do this.

[@florinivan6907]

@@thedapperdolphin1590 There's nothing brave about saying not to do it. Its just about the most middle of the road position.

[@MrMejia187]

@@florinivan6907…what movie is brave?

[@incog.nyto.]

@@florinivan6907 But it's pretty much the approach Garland took: this is a movie about the ethics of journalism, told with the ethics of journalism. It's objective and apolitical. Just like journalism should be. It's pretty meta when you think about it.

[@ghengis423]

​@@florinivan6907 then whats the point of any anti-war movie ever? Since we all know war is bad.

[@matheussanthiago9685]

I'm just glad we have a Brazilian Lead on a Hollywood film

[@SirAnanas]

Just two days later and the civil war discourse looks entirely different (they’re using AI posters now)

[@wesreleases6346]

I’ve never been happier to not know what Twitter is saying about a movie.

[@iPLAYtheSTATION]

I love not knowing what Twitter says about literally anything.

[@JackdotC]

I literally haven't seen anyone talking about this movie, so you might not be missing much

[@LangstonDev]

​@@iPLAYtheSTATION u n me both pal

[@dabunnydabunny1243]

​@@iPLAYtheSTATIONFinally deleted my account a few weeks back and it's wild how I almost immediately became 40% less miserable all the time.

[@MiguelHernandez-lo5lg]

Life is just objectively better when Twitter isn't involved.

[@greayworks7232]

It's about a British director who doesn't get how American states work

[@LeonKlent]

Sorry to brake it too you but there’s no such thing as “British”

[@kubukoz_]

@@LeonKlentmind explaining?

[@galacticboy2009]

I thought it was great. One of the best war movies of all time. The feeling of being someone not involved, but not completely uninvolved, is so perfect. Definitely one of the best fictional stories from the perspective of war photographers. While sitting in the theater I thought "man, if only the The Last of Us show could've been like this"

[@Kyle-td4bh]

y'all it's really pretty easy: The American Civil War (April 12, 1861 - May 26, 1865; also known by other names) was a civil war in the United States between the Union[e] ("the North") and the Confederacy ("the South"), which had been formed by states that had seceded from the Union. The central conflict leading to the war was the dispute over whether slavery would be permitted to expand into the western territories, leading to more slave states, or be prevented from doing so, which many believed would place slavery on a course of ultimate extinction.[17] Decades of political controversy over slavery were brought to a head by the victory in the 1860 U.S. presidential election of Abraham Lincoln, who opposed slavery's expansion into the western territories. Seven southern slave states responded to Lincoln's victory by seceding from the United States and forming the Confederacy. The Confederacy seized U.S. forts and other federal assets within their borders. The war began when on April 12, 1861, Confederate troops fired on Fort Sumter in South Carolina's Charleston Harbor. A wave of enthusiasm for war swept over both North and South, as recruitment soared. The states in the undecided border region had to choose sides, although Kentucky declared it was neutral. Four more southern states seceded after the war began and, led by Confederate President Jefferson Davis, the Confederacy asserted control over about a third of the U.S. population in eleven states. Four years of intense combat, mostly in the South, ensued. During 1861-1862 in the Western Theater, the Union made significant permanent gains-though in the Eastern Theater the conflict was inconclusive. The abolition of slavery became a Union war goal on January 1, 1863, when Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation, which declared all slaves in rebel states to be free, which applied to more than 3.5 million of the 4 million enslaved people in the country. To the west, the Union first destroyed the Confederacy's river navy by the summer of 1862, then much of its western armies, and seized New Orleans. The successful 1863 Union siege of Vicksburg split the Confederacy in two at the Mississippi River, while Confederate General Robert E. Lee's incursion north failed at the Battle of Gettysburg. Western successes led to General Ulysses S. Grant's command of all Union armies in 1864. Inflicting an ever-tightening naval blockade of Confederate ports, the Union marshaled resources and manpower to attack the Confederacy from all directions. This led to the fall of Atlanta in 1864 to Union General William Tecumseh Sherman, followed by his March to the Sea. The last significant battles raged around the ten-month Siege of Petersburg, gateway to the Confederate capital of Richmond. The Confederates abandoned Richmond, and on April 9, 1865, Lee surrendered to Grant following the Battle of Appomattox Court House, setting in motion the end of the war. Lincoln lived to see this victory but on April 14, he was assassinated. Appomattox is often referred to symbolically as the end of the war, although arguably there are several different dates for the war's conclusion. Lee's surrender to Grant set off a wave of Confederate surrenders-the last military department of the Confederacy, the Department of the Trans-Mississippi disbanded on May 26. By the end of the war, much of the South's infrastructure was destroyed. The Confederacy collapsed, slavery was abolished, and four million enslaved black people were freed. The war-torn nation then entered the Reconstruction era in an attempt to rebuild the country, bring the former Confederate states back into the United States, and grant civil rights to freed slaves. The Civil War is one of the most extensively studied and written about episodes in U.S. history. It remains the subject of cultural and historiographical debate. The myth of the Lost Cause of the Confederacy is often the subject of critical analysis. The American Civil War was among the first wars to use industrial warfare. Railroads, the telegraph, steamships, the ironclad warship, and mass-produced weapons were all widely used during the war. In total, the war left between 620,000 and 750,000 soldiers dead, along with an undetermined number of civilian casualties, making the Civil War the deadliest military conflict in American history.[f] The technology and brutality of the Civil War foreshadowed the coming World Wars.

[@janderson6756]

As someone who use all two of his yearly trips to the theater to watch GxK back to back, I can confidently say that I have not watched Civil War

[@ctravis91]

Are you sure?

[@janderson6756]

@@ctravis91 I really couldn’t tell you

[@thesnowmiser6728]

​@@janderson6756 but you were so confident before...

[@janderson6756]

@@thesnowmiser6728 stop living in the past

[@KK-ef1ow]

Say the line Bart!!!!

[@zacharytrevino6321]

It’s about Ron Swanson no longer being a libertarian

[@connormacmillan2803]

Maybe the true meaning of Civil War was in our hearts all along.

[@b.m.933]

Maybe the real Civil War was the friends we made along the way.

[@cristianpiriz7765]

How journalists feel like the victims of wars they refuse to take a side on

[@thecaptain6520]

It really is a "journalism is good" circlejerk

[@books2438]

… They cannot, if they want to maintain whatever’s left of their integrity, as journalists, they quite literally cannot pick a side. A journalist can’t be involved in politics, at least not openly, at least in a world where journalists still had any respect left

[@cookieface80]

Since when do journalists refuse to pick a side?

[@jlev1028]

​@@books2438Tell that to the journalists who followed US soldiers in Vietnam to document how fruitless their involvement was.

[@books2438]

@@jlev1028 I’m not entirely sure what you’re referring to but a war correspondent following one side specifically and reporting their actions isn’t picking a side, it’s just specializing in a field

[@Dative420]

Civil war is about a movie about man carrying civil wars

[@StickyCat398]

The only bad thing about a civil war now is that Man Carrying Thing's side would win easily as he never misses

[@jens2049]

Somehow its both

[@aidangordon2713]

Civil War: truly, the first film that pisses off everyone by appealing to no one. Bravo, Alex Garland-san.

[@gnarwhal7562]

Lisa Simpson: "Come on, Mom, the theatres just invented this Civil War to make money".

[@TurboSax]

It's about MCU fans vs. Comic Purists. "Okay. What KIND of Marvel fan are you?"

[@dm-qy3yu]

thanks for letting me know of that film site.... i wish i knew about that earlier!

[@Stryker-K]

"Fear not the man who fights in a bloodthirsty manner Fear the the man who is civil during times of war." - Llewellyn Davis

[@ivorkvarantan3031]

The absolute Civil, he never wars

[@nilzero5686]

love that texas and california team up in civil war just the perfect kind of shallow hack writing choice

[@hippiehillape]

You are a meme we laugh at

[@thatcherfreeman]

That detail turned out to have nothing to do with the plot of the movie though

[@JaMeshuggah]

​@@thatcherfreemanthen why have it?

[@shanec9672]

I'm going to riff on what another commenter said. Basically, we're all fairly aware of the political leanings of both of those states, so having both of them leading the charge keeps you from assigning a political leaning to the separatists and coloring your perception of what's happening. A friend of mine said the movie isn't about who or why, just the what, and I think that sums it up well.

[@thatcherfreeman]

@@JaMeshuggah well obviously to state the setting of a civil war you have to verbally state geographically what the sides are and they presumably picked those two states to be on the same side (though it truthfully didn't matter that much for the plot) so that the movie would be less perceived as being woke or right wing or whatever. It would be hard to watch a movie about a civil war without some statement of who is at war with who else though, so in that view the writers gotta pick a few states. The movie isn't about CA and TX vs the rest of the country though. It's about photojournalists watching people being violent and the ethics and challenges of journalism. To complain about that aspect of the movie is like saying Interstellar was implausible because corn is not a water-efficient crop for the farm on that movie's earth environment, when the movie is about space travel, desperation, and a dude's relationship with his family.

[@jens2049]

This is one of your best. Also really great letterboxd review of Civil War

[@Sidharthavicious]

They finally made a movie about a Jojo Stand? I was hoping for Soft And Wet.

[@thepissedoffyetrationalrev2261]

"Truly a civil man carrying a war" *LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER* "HOW? IT's called 'CIVIL WAR!'"

[@mavericbennings463]

Man carrying debate

[@willows6114]

I got an ad for Civil War right before this video Lmao

[@chrischatsfacts4483]

"it's about family, and that's whats so powerful about it."

[@pierregrubb7323]

its about how... we shouldn't fight each other over politics or something idk i havent seen it

[@WarmWarthog]

It’s about Ron Swanson being the president

[@NorthernRealmJackal]

My film studies professor once said "Message is inescapable. Every movie is about something. Except Ghostbusters and Civil War (2024)."

[@litttlepigboy]

jumped a little when you said my name LMFAOOOO bc i still haven't got around to watching civil war yet

[@meowsicle7463]

Midsterpiece! A24 has done it again!

[@rorysimpson8716]

I'm definitely team it takes no risks but wishes to wrap itself in the garb of a very serious thing you should take very seriously even though it says nothing that a hundred different Dbeat bands have said almost exclusively. Warbad warbad warbad warbad.

[@kenraves7931]

God it's like that Don't Look Up Movie all over again rofmlap

[@Sylvatic98]

I heard about civil war from a twitter ad five minutes ago and then I get this

[@zeroconnection]

"I love the Leader. I mean civil war"

[@CarpeVerpa]

What is this video even about? It's called CIVIL WAR!

[@chizorama]

It's about making tacticool fashion statements. Multicam & Elton John sunglasses, ghilles with painted nails & hair, yeet in style...

[@merck__]

Umm, actually its called Sigil War and it's about The Seven Sigil War of the Forgotten Realms.

[@fintanbochra]

Another certified neighborhood classic! 🧙‍♂️

[@therealangle6451]

💀

[@ironmanzelda15]

I like how Man is buzzing answers as incorrect when he himself has not read what's on the card

[@MerchantOfClicks]

“When war gives you Plemons, make Plemonade.” -Civil

[@cameronharding2878]

The absolute war! He's never civil!

[@captaincalamity4909]

He never accidentally offends me by implying Godzilla X Kong isn't good! The absolute legend!

[@Sm0k3turt]

Love your sense of humor

[@bytisoli]

I can't believe this is just a KZbin video, a mere skit, I mean, it's called "basically the Civil War (2024) discourse". This man has dropped the thing with this one.

[@dannydanumba2619]

Dawg I vibe with Todd, Godzilla x Kong went hard 🔥

[@Over-Boy42]

People who make a movie about MLK and Malcom X: This film has nothing to do with race relations.

[@gianni206]

Apparently it’s about the importance of journalism

[@MurasakiTsukimaru]

Eagerly waiting for Pitch Meeting on this movie

[@teddyboucher1848]

It was actually very good. But it is more about war journalism than anything else.

[@theodoreonthetheremin8987]

Man Carrying Sovereignty

[@TabalugaDragon]

Civil War was pretty good. I liked the interaction between Iron Man and Captain America. It was truly moving what happened there!

[@freaky_sugar]

If you told me this was a fake movie invented just for this skit, I'd believe you.

[@hawkfu]

I really enjoyed it and had no idea people hated it so much until I commented on something saying I liked it and like 5 people told me I was an absolute moron

[@melodynice7938]

Saying someone that something is not about politics, is politics. Very smart (2024)

[@thesnowmiser6728]

Tonight at 11: Stroke victim types one last comment before passing away

[@melodynice7938]

wow this war is not civil 😔

[@LeonKlent]

Leftard