Basileus of Ithica, Odysseus of the Odyssey - Total War Saga: TROY (Ithaca Campaign) #1

[@SurrealBeliefs]

If you folks enjoyed this, I'll have a second part up later today.

[@mateooomudnic1964]

helo...

[@thzzaw9965]

yes pls

[@mateooomudnic1964]

@@thzzaw9965 y e s so true

[@cool-xb7wk]

Why is there so much hate for this game

[@maaad5073]

What do you mean ? Of course we enjoy it.. do it again

[@THENEW6]

I remember a very old Odyssey movie. There was a moment when a god talks to Odysseus and he is like "I like you because unlike other men, you actually think things through before doing stuff." My favorite Greek hero

[@D4rkf0x21]

Was it the Odyssey mini-series in 1997 or the older movies?

[@THENEW6]

@@D4rkf0x21 I have no idea, i'm sorry. I was a kid and only watched some parts. I do remember it looked quite old, very primitive in the special effects department.

[@tzoanast1061]

As a Greek, I am happy with your choice, Oddyseus usually gets ignored a lot cause too much of his journey is shrouded in mythology but the man really went through so much.

[@ahilleasalexop5500]

Will have to start with an Achilles campaign though

[@darioildiario3001]

Not in Italy, brother ^_^

[@paulmayson3129]

Realistically the Odyssey seems like an echo of the Sea Peoples Invasions, which were mostly conducted and lead by the Greeks! But it sounds wierd that they were directed towards the West, but there were many Greeks who went there after the Trojan War. An other great example is Diomedes, who founded 11 cities in South Italy!!!

[@darioildiario3001]

@@paulmayson3129 The sea people were not greeks but minoics or phoenicians

[@paulmayson3129]

@@darioildiario3001 Νο. Just see all depictions of them, they are identical to Greeks in dress and armory.

[@lujoviste]

Lets go baby, thank god he is not sean bean it Total War or his campaign would be really short

[@donaldcrawfordiii554]

Ilovecookies poor old PA does not play TW games any more So happy to find other channels that play TW games. Looking forward to a great program.👍👍👈👈

[@paxtofettel]

Sean Bean survived in that movie tho xD

[@ShadowWolfRising]

Sean Bean was one of the few Central characters in that who DIDN'T die.

[@carlroy]

Ca made the right choice to let some streamer like you to showcase the game because their livestream are very ordinary. Thanks for your work.

[@robincoppel9142]

Oh yes, a new Surrealbeliefs Total War campaign, always promising buckets of awesome! Also, you forgot one thing about Odysseus: he was portrayed by Sean Bean, and that is definitely a point in awesomeness and badassery.

[@Eryomis]

Total War: Conan the Barbarian would be a sight to see, not gonna lie.

[@samvieux9855]

That sounds amazing.

[@alexmag342]

I never thought of it, but now I desperately need it!

[@MrTonik22]

Rich lore, lot of factions....damn i want one !

[@edwardvlad]

Artistically this game is rally magical... The campaign map especially, with the stylized mountains and starry sky in the distance, with that awesome music playing, really feels like they captured the magical feel of greek mythology!

[@TheMrFishnDucks]

Awesome first episode. Odysseus is my favourite of this time period. Looking forward to the next episode. Keep up the good work.

[@alexevans3276]

Odysseus played by Sean Bean in the movie Troy. Such a good film even if it wasn’t too accurate

[@willheim371]

O' Brother where art thou, is a gift to the world

[@ribon1703]

"The wine-dark sea lures me from my home" I wonder if that's a reference to the famously wine coloured sheep in the Odyssey

[@markselby9352]

Homer describes the sea multiple times in the Iliad and Odyssey as ‘wine dark’ so it’s probably just referring to that

[@ribon1703]

@@markselby9352 Good to know

[@paulmayson3129]

@@markselby9352 It really is this colour, it you look at the sea round the time of sunset or sunrise. And sometimes if wine reflects the sky, it has a very sea-like hue.

[@Bocchi-the-Rock_]

Pretty sure "wine-dark" stems from the lack of names for certain colors. Imagine a blue so dark it's almost black. Well one of the closest things they would have had to describe that color was wine, as very dark wine would appear a similar hue, thus "wine-dark" was a way everyone would understand what you meant even if they hadn't seen whatever was being referred to

[@dickyneedles8876]

I remember watching your old TATW videos, almost a lifetime ago. Total War has come so far, it's incredible.

[@enriqueribeiro6359]

Your reasoning and own personal reasons just added so much more to the character, keep it up man 👍🏻

[@lesROKnoobz]

The art in the Saga games have been so inspired / beautiful. Thrones of Brittania may have gotten some flack, but the art was amazing.

[@andrewanti]

Love your way of playing TW games. Edited replays so much better to watch than usual gameplay battles. You deserve much more subs

[@kasta669]

This actually looks waay better than I thought Im hyped thanks for the content surreal!

[@robertbailey4243]

I loved reading the Odyssey, and I cant wait to see this legend in battle

[@aeigdiusflaviusquintus1337]

Aw Yea!! Been looking forward to this! Let's go! Forward men of Ithaca! march forth, and rescue Helen!!

[@fietehermans9903]

I wasn't expecting an Óh Brother Where Art Thou' refference in one of your videos... Also: the nature of Odysseus's adventures is why scholars believe the Illiad and Odyssey were either written by different people, or Homer based his texts on already existing legends, since they point out that there is a massive difference between the martial heroes of the Illiad (including Odysseus), who use brute strength, and the cunning Odysseus of the Odyssey, indicating that the archetype and expectations of the Greek hero changed massively in between the two texts. So either they were written at least a century apart, or the Odyssey was based on a series of legends that were invented much later than the Illiad.

[@fietehermans9903]

@@barbarogenije True. I'm not saying that he isn't cunning in the Illiad, but the difference between it and the Odyssey is still remarkable. Besides, to me, his role as "foil" of Achilles was more a result of his patience as opposed to Achilles's impulsiveness

[@fietehermans9903]

neo angkar Also, did I say material? I meant martial

[@Arcaryon]

While I don't love the design of some of the heroes, overall this looks really promising and I am catching myself falling in love with the less historical setting of the legendary siege of troy more and more.

[@Diogolindir]

I saw your Achilles' campaign first. You have the best campaigns pls make more. Specially mythos

[@soggygrogbottom]

Props for the O Brother, Where Art Thou shootout. One of my all time favorite movies.

[@Only-oneman]

I'm not a huge fan of the bronze age but watching someone who actually enjoys the period made me want to read up on it a bit more and reread the iliad and odyssey. Great job, surreal!

[@izual2840]

Love to see you playin TW again. I missed this kind of content and I come back to you now at the turn of the tide :)

[@sicor94]

Oh boy everyone uploading videos of the wise king Odysseus, time to take the spoiled prince's head!

[@donaldcrawfordiii554]

sicor94 not pixelated Apollo. He is the person who stopped playing TW. His loss. This going to be a goodie.✌️✌️👍👍👍👍

[@ryanr5017]

Donald Crawford III oh god the emojis are so cringey

[@spymaster3366]

Actually Odysseus is one of the most well established heroes in Greek mythology Homer the writer of Iliad wrote Odyssey the journey back home of the hero which we have a whole class dedicated to studying and translating the script to modern greek

[@nev2221]

Seeing the detail in the small shrubs and trees is a really good sign for future games

[@GuitarrAddictt]

Wow, this looks .. actually, .. pretty good? Good job boys!

[@fourlamb1]

Finally, been waiting to see some of this off you... Thought you'd have some up sooner.

[@Onyxtir]

Ah two fantastic series to come, this and Khuzait campaign that was confusing to myself lol

[@redhulk4048]

I knew I had to watch as soon as I read ithica. Love the video!

[@rikkifulton5055]

So glad Surreal is playing this game as I'm still not sure if I'm sold on it even though I love ancient greek mythology, with Surreal doing a lets play I know we'll get an honest opinion of the game as a whole.

[@emeraldeyedstruggler3362]

finally, the perfect content of total war is back

[@ovk_rac3742]

First part in already loving it. can't wait for part 2

[@giovannipaglia4167]

32:00 "you can't use only your leaders" TheSpiffBrit: "hold my tea i have to show you"

[@conq1273]

Totally balanced

[@CruuSylepvp3]

i'm so glad you've decide to play Troy total war good luck and have fun i know i will

[@50043211]

The game truely looks beautiful!

[@michaelorourke36]

Wow wasn't keen on the trailers but this looks promising 😀 great work in the vid btw

[@shravastimukherjee1387]

When is the Achilles campaign?

[@maedhrosv8449]

Please make this a mainstay in your channel!

[@asweettooth1288]

Great job.. perfect balance of commentary gameplay and cinema. Lol

[@cede4587]

I like this guy's voice in my radio, talking about life or stories.

[@dnnivas2942]

Woohoo. new series!!!

[@emilio9129]

Cant wait to play as Odysseus! Somebody has to mod Argos as a compagnion or smth, I litterally cry everytime I read the part where he dies, and Id love to see him in game.

[@djinndusk4696]

I probably missed the explanation, but what's up with the portraits in the battles that fill out to be orange?

[@Sydberg]

It's so funny to me how I just recently watched movie "Troy" and thought about installing Rome 2 again to play as one of the Greek factions and then all of a sudden this game comes out of no where.

[@pogimax]

I find it hilariously ironic that you're considering Poseidon while playing as Odysseus.

[@McHobotheBobo]

To be fair it may spare him some grief later

[@Marc-hm6bz]

Tbh Odyssius did lots of head-on fighting and kicked lots of butt with his beat bro, the chad Diomedes.

[@themadmaus6222]

I don’t know I think the style is almost to cartoon-y but as far as the time period I’m all for it!

[@paulmayson3129]

Finally, a game where the terrain actually does look like it is Greece!

[@lujoviste]

Damn it Surreal now i have to listen to the Soggy bottom boys again.

[@cool-xb7wk]

Nice can't wait for the series

[@ImperadorLucius]

this is the future of total war... The epic. history is better when is just an myth

[@Ikaros1994]

The greatest civil war the Greeks have ever had!

[@bouziddahmane5065]

The heroes models are so clean

[@louditalian1962]

Odysseus didn’t want to go to war. He was forced when they threatened his child. He didn’t see the need to defend the honor of another man who lost his wife, specially not with the lives of his people. When they arrived in Troy the Greeks hesitated to disembark cause it was foretold that the first to land in Troy will die; thus Odysseus jumped over the ship and used a shield to prevent him from touching Trojan soil, another soldier jumped and was instantly killed. He also sneaked into an enemy camp and assassinated the enemy General. Truly he was a bad ass.

[@theforgottenguise7971]

Is this like three kingdoms where you can select individual hero vs commander unit?

[@ninjat-rex7472]

Question (bc I was thinking about it): With the new Greenskins update for Total War Warhammer 2, will you ever make another playthrough for Grimgor? To prove that Grimgor iz best, betta than all da rest?

[@SangsungMeansToCome]

I love those manly boasts of superiority, when we know that in the end it all goes to shit for everybody.

[@MrValkilmer35]

I'm so looking forward to this game! Such a cool setting.I'm not sure it's exactly your cup of tea, Surreal though on The Epic Games Store there's a 4x game called Old World set during a similar time if you'd check that out, I think it'd make a cool Let's play with all of the dynasty mechanics.

[@christensenmickel8766]

How about Aeneas or Saperdon there campaigns might be challenging to you perhaps even Achilles or Menelaus as well.

[@Kingronthegreat]

Wanted to try it but too bad it's only on epic game store. I feel like the map and ui feels a bit cluttered but the battle ones seem fine

[@khotunkhan3950]

Did they actually use Orlando Blooms face for Paris??

[@arrielradja5522]

Hi IM going to say hi every time a new oddseus vid

[@arcamean785]

Really weird without blood... are they gonna make us have to buy a blood pack again?

[@anglosaxon5874]

So that's where 'safe spaces' were first made! lol

[@imperius6004]

Very nice, but i have to ask. Why is Achilles labeled as unreliable in the diplomacy screen? It doesn't make sense to me since i'm from greece and we do the Illiad and the odyssey in school, and in none of them does Achilles come across as unreliable.

[@michaeljames9536]

So excited for this game😫😫

[@Hagrim91]

15:16 those death animations though

[@noahfernandez8019]

Sorry I’m so late guys, I had to go get some more tests

[@Masuuruhiito]

Dude, your operative's name Dracomachos literally translates to Dragon Fighter. How bad ass is that?

[@McHobotheBobo]

Honestly I've only gotten more hype for this game as time has gone on, the bronze age has to be one of my favorite time periods! The parallels between it and modernity are often greater than the iron or even early medieval ages

[@Remus-z6y]

That’s how I felt with Thrones of Britannia, I love that period of history and enjoyed that TW game immensely because of it. Really didn’t care about what others said about it because my interest in that period of history was so great. Really hope this one satisfies your love and interest for this time period!

[@jopeezy6971]

I've never heard someone annunciate the G in slingers before lol. Love your content bro just poking fun. I got a New England accent so you know, glass house and rocks or some shit.

[@LauraPrincee]

and his exspecially 🥴

[@unholynexus]

So Happy Odysseus won!

[@kinezakoc3149]

Just a quick heads up on pronunciations. When you see the letter o and i together like this "oi" you pronounce it like you'd pronounce a normal Greek i so for example kranioi is pronounced kranii. Hope this helps you pronounce city names better.

[@willspohn1972]

That isn’t the ancient greek pronunciation though

[@willspohn1972]

Alex the dominator I am aware. But the game takes place in a time where the modern greek pronunciation wouldn’t hold

[@willspohn1972]

Alex the dominator no way lol the ancient sounds way cooler.

[@willspohn1972]

Alex the dominator I mean I can pronounce ancient greek cities right, which is what we were talking about.

[@willspohn1972]

Alex the dominator I have taken ancient greek for like three years now. So my pronunciation is decent. But I doubt I could pronounce it in modern greek.

[@jedsieber5929]

Hail great maker of the wooden horse!

[@anubisfox5765]

I thought i was the only one who knew o brother where art thou was loosely based off the odyssey :D

[@ethanpereira734]

yesssss finalyyy ur awesome

[@lordyguy727]

Can we play as Hector in Total War : troy?

[@SurrealBeliefs]

Yes.

[@Johnvardas]

Dude, Odysseus was the real MVP

[@alexandresilveira6905]

I actually hate siege battles on total war but this kind of town battle seems cool.

[@evangray125]

Im here to watch this too

[@alexandernoberu8672]

Finaly Total Wars

[@mr.k418]

The Greek myths are the best, in my opinion. They have normal people, in some cases, going against incredible odds and achieving greatness. Odysseus, Theseus, and Perseus being prime examples,

[@xtreme439gaming4]

Let's go boys were eating good tonight

[@zebwithaz8733]

Nice:) Sorry I'm late. Was at a friends house :).

[@acidboyssuper3446]

I am watching your videos from third age imladris campaign and the golden army i hope you make series with dac ..one of your followers

[@waffles1739]

I hope they do Egypt next set in the new kingdom era

[@cameronmunro655]

This looks Amazing for Free to play!

[@queldron]

Btw, you should have typed "Anax" (Anaktos in the genitive form) of Ithaca", be cause "basileus", in the Mycenaean era, was the title for a leader of a small number of men and sometimes that person got to be the king's secretary. Now, because if you were king's secretary you could know almost everything in the kingdom, later on, basileus, came to be the word for the king ;-) . P.S.: Still, in modern Greek the word for Palace is Anaktoron.

[@Redwin34]

One BIG question, is this worth making an EGS account just to get this for free?

[@SureSShuffle]

100% get it, plus epic games is a pretty alright platform

[@jacob7159]

Is this a online game ?

[@BinkyTheElf1]

Surreal: You trained for radio/ media?

[@SurrealBeliefs]

I wish!

[@johnpijano4786]

Has the game come out or is this just the creators playing the game earlier than the rest?

[@gerrin07]

Just the certain youtubers/streamer got the game early to showcase it

[@BroganCoovert34]

heck id didn't even know total war had a campaign

[@-vibincatto4589]

Yes few more day we can have this game free

[@thzzaw9965]

I like all your videos

[@zerogbot23]

Odysseus is my favourite Greek hero

[@TheKingDain]

Ancient Nehekara obviously if you want Bronze Age shenanigans.