The TRUTH on who is the better scorer | Michael Jordan vs LeBron James

[@TheEdub1]

This shouldn't even be a discussion

[@MikeFilsaime-com]

Agreed

[@Edthewebsurfer]

I know right, how are you comparing a guy with 10 scoring titles against someone with only one.

[@Swaggabron]

@@Edthewebsurfer 41k points, btw how many assist titles does Mj has ? Okay then

[@Edthewebsurfer]

@Swaggabron The video is about who is a better scorer, your point is invalid. Also, by your logic, Jonh Stockton is miles better than Lebron if you want to cherry-pick stats.

[@williamkoscielniak7871]

@@Swaggabron Who is arguing that MJ is a better passer than Lebron?

[@kennardstinnette1139]

I laugh every time i hear "debate" with these two. MJ was far superior than Lebron at scoring and at basketball. Period.

[@eddieharman3650]

Its insane that ANYONE EVER tries to debate this. Its only because the NBA picked Lebron as a rookoe to be another Jordan so they could capitalize on him and make money. When that failed they proceded to spin false narratives sbout his abilities and thats why Lebron is even in the GOAT debate at all. No other reason. He actually airballs freethrows. A lot of them. How many GOATs airball freethrows. Its embarrassing. Lebron has literally hit the side of the backboard on more than one occasion when shooting from the baseline .

[@Melo_7_Leo]

@@eddieharman3650 You can prefer Jordan, saying it isn't a debate is just ignorance lol

[@roberttyrrell5315]

Best scoring seasons total points #1 Jordan 87' 3,041(lead league) #2 Jordan 88' 2,868(lead league) #3 Jordan 90' 2,753(lead league) #4 Jordan 89' 2,633(lead league) #5 Jordan 91' 2,580(lead league) #6 Jordan 93' 2,541(lead league) #7 Jordan 96' 2,491(lead league) #8 LeBron 06' 2,478 #9 Jordan 97' 2,431(lead league) #10 Jordan 92' 2,404(lead league) #11 Jordan 98' 2,357(lead league) #12 Jordan 85'(rookie season) 2,313(lead league) Of course Jordan shot a lot. That's what happens when you can get your shot anytime you want. Also how many times did we see Jordan's teammates not be able to create a shot for the team, then Jordan had to bail them out at the end of the shot clock? Jordan was 1 point away from averaging 40ppg in 6 playoff series. LeStans always say LeBron took 1200 fewer shots to score as many points as Jordan. But by that logic Rudy Gobert is a better scorer than LeBron since it took LeBron 2,000 more shots to score as many points as Gobert. Also Jordan could come back play in 121 more games, not score as single point and still have a higher ppg average than LeBron.

[@JohnnyRodgers3]

Now add wilt😂

[@DnAGames69]

why are you just spreading misinformation? kobe had 2,800, wilt definitely had more at some point, and you're telling me harden or AI aren't up there? why are you lying?

[@megavolt67]

​@@DnAGames69 He's comparing the top 12 scoring seasons of Jordan and LeBron. There's no lie there. Number 13 would've been another LeBron season but at that point we're past Jordan's 11 full seasons with the Bulls, so it doesn't matter.

[@roberttyrrell5315]

@Actuallylooptech not lying Never said all-time. This is just Jordan and LeBron's

[@DnAGames69]

@ ok sure but still a misleading stat

[@realballers2013]

Real hoopers know that LeBron isn’t a top 10 scorer, let alone in Jordan’s class. His fans use his total stats to make him something that he’s not.

[@55cleon]

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@Bighjr88]

I couldn’t said it better my brother.

[@terrellbaker1660]

How can you say that when Lebron's 27.06 ppg ranks #7 all time? Make it make sense.

[@Trancymind]

MJ and Kobe clearly better defensive players than Lebron.

[@55cleon]

@terrellbaker1660 It Truly Doesn't Rank 7th 🤷🏿‍♂️! All Of LeBron's Numbers Are Misleading. Layups And Dunks, No Effort Rebounds, Weak Ass Rule Changes In The League (Freedom Of Movement...No Hand Checking...The Ability To Carry And Travel) Dilute His Numbers. Combine That With A Player (LeBron) Who Is Extremely Limited In Every Facet Of The Game. Poor FT Shooter For A Ball Dominant Guy. Poor Ball Handler For A Perimeter Player Who Is Ball Dominant. A Poor Shooter (He Has No Jump Shot) Outside Of 3 To 10 Ft For His Career. A Turnover Machine For Someone Who Dominates The Ball. I Don't Have To Delve Into His Inability To Play Off Of The Ball 🤦🏿‍♂️. LeBron Was Merely A Big Athletic Guy Who Plays Basketball. He's Not A "GREAT BASKETBALL PLAYER". His Lack Of Fundamentals And Overall Basketball Ability Are Glaringly Obvious As His Athleticism Has Began To Wane. LeBron Is "GREAT" Because ESPN And The Hype Machine Tells You So. He's The Weakest "Superstar" That Has Ever Been The Face Of Any Professional Sport. He's Simply Not What His Overly Emotional, Delusional, Fragile Ego Fans Have Been Forced To Believe That He Is.

[@paulusrumanouw3176]

Not even close, 10 scoring titles while winning 6 rings is on another different level altogether.

[@Melo_7_Leo]

@@paulusrumanouw3176 MJ scored 32,292 points on 24,537 FGA's LeBron had 33,918 points when he took his 24,537th FGA LeBron had 1,626 MORE points on the same amount of shots. How does the better scorer have LESS points?

[@paulusrumanouw3176]

@LBJ-s9n in the era of weak defensive competition with mostly open layups and dunks.

[@Melo_7_Leo]

@paulusrumanouw3176 Yeah so you can't provide a logical rebuttal to the hard cold statistics, so you result to your delusions. Keep it up👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻.

[@casual35]

​@@Melo_7_Leo33% of LeBron's scoring is 0-3ft. Dunks, layups and put backs. He's not a great shooter. Those are high percentage points. MJs scoring was mostly from the field. MJ is a better scorer.

[@Melo_7_Leo]

@casual35 FYI shot selection & shot distance are measurable & available It takes a remarkably low-IQ person to paint Lebron as Shaq 2.0 More proof that his biggest haters are too lazy to watch his games or do the most basic research. They echo their fictions based on social media gossips 35% of LeBron's shots are within 3 ft He shoots 74% from within 3 ft How does that equate to a majority of his scoring? LeBron has scored 41,222 points LeBron has made 8,494 free throws 20% of his points are from free throws so how does he score majority of his points at the rim? The more you lie, the dumber I'll make you look.

[@kanej33]

I think Jordan's on another level what is mid-range game and post-up

[@zane01235]

And his drive to the basket which regularly beat 2 to 3 defenders.

[@DnAGames69]

he has a worse mid range percentage.

[@nathanmckenzie904]

​@@DnAGames69no he doesn't, Lebron shoots in the 30$ range outside of 3ft

[@lawrencemcdonald9212]

@@DnAGames69Jordan one of the best midrange shooters ever lebron outside of 0-3 feet is terrible

[@DnAGames69]

@ ok he still a better 3pt shooter than

[@guadalupechavarria1227]

Michael Jordan is the true GOAT 🐐 No debate all

[@bballfanKU1313-l9z]

GOAT of a watered down expansion era with no contemporaries or truly great teams. Opponents largely centered around 1 star player & role players- while never winning a playoff series without Pippen in 15 years.Never won in the 80's when there were actual great historic teams, had to wait until they faded out and he had the best roster of the 90's.

[@ericpratt4361]

LeBron is not a better scorer, he is not a better defender, he is not a better winner, he is not a better competitor, he is not a better worker, he is not a better clutch player. This debate never should have started.

[@DnAGames69]

stop with the clutch he is defintely more clutch, he is a better worker, he is a better defender in his prime, the rest you can have all of them

[@coryyoung1857]

@@DnAGames69 stop pretending. LeBron has never been a better defender or scorer and definitely not more cluth.

[@coryyoung1857]

@@DnAGames69 better worker? He works harder looking for the easy way. Better workers play all 82 games more than once in 22 years

[@DnAGames69]

@@coryyoung1857 better workers dont gamble and get drunk the night before games. better workers dont leave to play another sport.

[@DnAGames69]

@@coryyoung1857 he literally has the most playoff buzzer beaters in history. and yes a 6'9 235 pound monster is going to be a better prime defender than a 6'6 guy thats jsut how it works.

[@ibobpebplaub9354]

99.9999% of lebron scores are from traveling and flopping. Without it, he has nothing.

[@DnAGames69]

3/10 ragebait try harder

[@snakebitten6967]

Don’t forget to add in offensive fouling and dislodging for 99.9999% of his illegal points.

[@kaukase539]

I said that 10 years ago! I watched my first LeChoke game and realized, at least 30% of his assists are fake! At least 95% of his rebounds are defensive rebounds and some of them are even fake! Watch ANGRY OLD HOOPS FAN or SKAP ATTACK They beak it down

[@jayk6194]

Hi game hasn't changed since his rookie year. Lowers his shoulder, take 4-5 steps and charge! Complains if he doesn't score.

[@kaukase539]

@ You explained his game in one sentence! Tell that to the mainstream sports media please

[@regiecruz1397]

Kobe is better than lebron

[@SubversiveShekelMerchant]

Delusional

[@kaukase539]

By far better than LeStatPadding queen

[@regiecruz1397]

@WellOkIGuessYouGotMe Its a fact

[@shanemaddox1852]

No he’s not and it’s not close.

[@darkballerz]

Wade is better than kobrick

[@mphase7575]

10 scoring titles to 1. That should end the "debate" right there

[@Melo_7_Leo]

@@mphase7575 MJ scored 32,292 points on 24,537 FGA's LeBron had 33,918 points when he took his 24,537th FGA LeBron had 1,626 MORE points on the same amount of shots. How does the better scorer have LESS points?

[@mphase7575]

@LBJ-s9n Lebron is a layup merchant. He shoots 33 percent outside 3 feet from the rim 🤣

[@Melo_7_Leo]

@mphase7575 FYI shot selection & shot distance are measurable & available It takes a remarkably low-IQ person to paint Lebron as Shaq 2.0 More proof that his biggest haters are too lazy to watch his games or do the most basic research. They echo their fictions based on social media gossips

[@Melo_7_Leo]

@mphase7575 Stop lying, the more you lie the more I'll embarrassing you. Basketball reference literally debunks this argument.

[@mphase7575]

@@Melo_7_Leo It's facts. You just accept reality. We know he can't shoot. He's below average free throw shooter lmao

[@MicroWave233]

Lebron has a better FG% than jordan or kobe cause he's most efficient 0-3 ft from the piant. He shoots like 70%, but outside of that he shoots a lower % than both those guys. This proves jordan and kobe are better shooters than lebron.

[@alim3576]

35% all over his career outside of 3 feet. In playoffs mode, he's 33% and in clutch moments, he's 31% outside of 3 feet. Source : Basketball-reference

[@MicroWave233]

@alim3576 kobe and jordan still shoot better 3 feet out and this includes 3 pointers. They both shot over 39% for their careers, now with jordan we don't have all his years cause they weren't tracking shooting distance most of his career but I'm sure the number would be around the same or better since whats recorded is his last 4 years of his career when his percentages were going down since it was the slow paced defensive era.

[@alim3576]

@@MicroWave233 I'm sure too. MJ's the GOAT and thats not even close

[@Swaggabron]

What does it matter from shooting a jumper and laying up or dunking the ball. They all count for 2 points. It goes to show you yall watch the games just for how it looks.

[@alexzapf6422]

@@Swaggabronbecause it speaks to lebrons weakness. His game has never improved or evolved. He is afraid to drive to the hoop in the clutch. And. He is terrible outside of three feet. Jordan in the clutch. Almost 50 percent. Jordan at 39-40 years of age. 43 percent. Even at 40 he was and is a more efficient shooter than LeBron. So. Context does matter. Go watch a video by Danger Productions. It shows all stats and numbers. Including analytics. And. Lebron only posts up smaller guys. He is deathly afraid of bigger players or same size.

[@TheodoreBagwell-g5r]

James is an imposter.

[@SherlanRoland]

Nar thts giving him too much props for he cnt even carry an imposter mantle 😂😂😂😂😂 he's just A TRAVELLING FLOPPING COMPLAINING LYING MAKING EXCUSES THROWING TEAMMATES N COACHES UNDER THE BUS " LOSING PILE OF SHIT "

[@regiecruz1397]

@@TheodoreBagwell-g5r Size and position Grant Hill is far better than lebron

[@Armando316]

Jordan was simply all around better. Better skills, better athlete, better defender, and most importantly, DELIVERED on the big stage when it all mattered with less help against tougher opponents than Lebron had. Lebron has more career stats because he played longer but despite all that, only has 1 scoring title and a losing record in the finals. MJ has 10 scoring titles, two three peats, and 6 finals mvp awards.

[@sportstalkonly1442]

Lmao tougher opponents? Tell me the team jordan faced anywhere near the kd warriors.

[@chimukun7319]

@@sportstalkonly1442 celtics and pistons. Lebron definitely faced weaker competition overall with way more help. He barely faced any decent teams most years in the eastern conference while having 2 megastars on his team, and formed 0 dynasties, since he usually choked as soon as he went up against decent opponents. and MJ never had to go up against Jason Terry.

[@Trancymind]

Lebron still has a losing playoff record vs western conference teams. Lol!!! (Dirks cough)

[@musi_yt2]

@@chimukun7319show lebron choking against the warriors the greatest team in the nba ever show lebron chocking against the celtics in 2018 you talk about chocking but look at 1995 mj mj couldn’t get his team above .500 for like the first three seasons of his career mj led a bum cavs team to the finals in 07 while when mj played with a bad team he couldn’t get out the first round and if you wanna talk about comp bron had way more the 90s had so much expansion that even the players at the time were calling the competition weak

[@terrellbaker1660]

@@sportstalkonly1442 The 1996 Orlando Magic. That team would mop the floor with the KD Warriors. Steph and KD are not dealing with Penny Hardaway and Shaquille O'Neal. Horace Grant nullifies Draymond and Nick Anderson nullifies Klay. And finally Dennis Scott would light them up from three. Historically Golden State all day. Head to Head it is not close. Shaq and Penny (and crew) all day.

[@vonholland64]

Lebron has never had the offensive skills of Jordan , DrJ, Bird , Kobe or many others and he’s not who you go to at clutch time. But he’s a great player as evidenced by his stats

[@NuFo]

Air Ball free throws 🤣

[@Pseudog831]

Lebron is not even top10 on all time best scorer.

[@Swaggabron]

41k points.

[@alexzapf6422]

@@Swaggabronthat speaks to longevity not being able to score. Pay attention to the video.

[@Swaggabron]

@ nope. What other players who played 20 plus seasons has the records that LeBron has? Now shut up and go cry in the car 🤡.

[@digitalian99]

@@Swaggabron "41k points." - in terms of being a "great scorer" ? 41,000 means NOTHING

[@CT-cf6wm]

@@digitalian99he’s a great scorer, I don’t think that’s what he’s saying. I don’t know if I’d have him in my top 10 either. Have to think about it myself He’s prob right around 10 for me. But def not top 5.

[@patrickmontie9583]

Bron is the Stats GOAT. He's basically the best role player in NBA HISTORY. MJ is the GOAT. He still has more 30 point games than LeBron though he played 8 fewer years. Let's not forget 6/0 in championship games.

[@maldad9073]

Technically MJ is 9-0 in championship games, including college and the Olympics. The man literally never lost any chip he ever played for, that says a lot about his mental approach.

[@jkgiron1]

correction* lebron is not the stats goat, maybe in "all time cumulative stats" he is up there, but in per game numbers, as well as analytic numbers, mj beats him soundly.

[@juliuscaesar6994]

Bro I would literally have lebron as my 6th man for my all time starting 5 lmao.. Be a nasty rotation

[@DnAGames69]

I almost crashed out reading this , 9/10 bait

[@M-DVD]

Jordan didnt played only 6 seasons, he didnt have 6/0. Jordan has 6/15. A player losing before the final is NOT better than a player losing in the final. Plus, rings is a Team feat, Jordan didnt win alone; and Bulls won when they were a stacked team against garbage, and when defense rules started being a joke.

[@swismyid]

Only thing MJ could not do is STOP lebron from FLOPPING or going to diddy parties

[@Edthewebsurfer]

He also can't stop him from turning the ball over, Karl Malone sends his regards :)

[@editorodriguez6554]

Jordan has 10 scoring titles LeBron only has one that tells you everything

[@GoGetYourShinebox]

1 in 21 years lol and they say he’s the greatest scorer 😂😂

[@rocwilliams6347]

And still passed Jordan in less shots that’s all that matters

[@editorodriguez6554]

@@rocwilliams6347 he has Jordan and 21 years and yeah, he took less shot shots. Why look how many three-point attempts LeBron takes over Jordan that’s the only reason he has gotten there and less shot because of three-pointers but he still took him 21 years stop with the nonsense. LeBron James is the biggest joke in NBA history and he and his idiotic fan base like you have to go you people are the most pathetic fan base I have ever witnessed

[@Reaper13-hi3yo]

MJ led the NBA in shot attempts 9X while Lebron 1X. DO RESEARCH

[@GoGetYourShinebox]

@ So what? MJ was just more persistent in terms of scoring. Worked out for him better. Maybe LBJ should have pushed the throttle more in the 2011 Finals, and he often gets trigger shy when it matters. Both of their FT shooting shows who was a better shooter

[@kaukase539]

LeLoser has the most: Total Missed shots Total Turnovers Total lost finals games Total most Daddy’s ( Tim, Kobe, Stephen, Dirk… ) Total most non called fouls Total most non called technicals Non called travels Most lost playoff games Most FT air balls Most 3 pointer air balls Most midrange air balls List goes on But “most total daddy’s is true! He was dominated by many great players 😂😂😂

[@juniorrodriguez_LA]

LePoop 💩 james is -132, gets 100 turnover's every 20 games, why do people think he's great when he got swept in the finals twice. When he retires people will forget about him

[@kaukase539]

LeTurnover has the most turnovers in history

[@johnchapman8131]

Lebrons best defender is the clock in the 4th quarter.

[@55cleon]

@@johnchapman8131 👌🏿😂

[@DnAGames69]

he literally has the most playoff buzzer beaters in history

[@kaukase539]

@@DnAGames69 And the most missed buzzer beater by far

[@DnAGames69]

@ no it actually Jordan. Check out the advert he made about failure around 97

[@nathancook2852]

@@DnAGames69 He literally shoots 30% on game tying or game winning shots in the playoffs. Shoot a bunch, and some will go in. What you want though is for them to go in often. Jordan is 10-19 for 53% in those situations. LBJ is also 0-7 on game tying or game winning shots in the finals with less than 30 seconds to go. Zero assists, 2 turnovers as well. MJ, well he went 4-8 with an assists and zero turnovers...

[@nathanmckenzie904]

This is only a question in the mind of those born to late to see MJ play

[@florianpoulin7108]

The debate about Lebron being a better passer is even more controversy. The way assists are recorded in the last decades and the way it was during the 80' and 90' isn't the same. So it impact numbers. The gap isn't as close at it seemes to be. And it's also a matter of skills. Why passing more to someone who would convert 40% of his shots if you can score 50% midrange/postplay/and 60 close to the basket ? In fact, MJ was able to create for the others by attracting the defense and giving his teammates good shots, as for Hodges, Paxson, Armstrong and Kerr. But MJ was able to average high number of assists if he wanted to, as when he played point guard or when he challenges Magic during the 1991 finals.

[@Reaper13-hi3yo]

Almost as much controversy as MJ's confirmed doctored/inflated steals numbers from his DPOY season where his home vs away stats were completely cooked

[@guadalupechavarria1227]

Michael Jordan is the true GOAT 🐐 No debate at all. Jordan has all the receipts.

[@Wetrockstah2116]

He's not even a top 10 scorer all time either. He is the all time leading scorer, but that is just because of how long and how many games he has played. Allen Iverson, Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Durant, Kobe Bryant, Tracy mc Grady, James harden, Larry Bird, and multiple others id say are better scorers than LeBron. LeBron is an elite scorer for sure, but that's mainly because of his size and athleticism driving to the paint. You take away his ability to attack the basket in straight line drives in transition or half court, his offensive game isn't all that.

[@terrellbaker1660]

Lebron's 27.06 ppg ranks #7 all time. Last time I checked that puts him in the top 10.

[@ksager123]

Skill wise he's below average

[@terrellbaker1660]

@@ksager123 So is Shaq. What's your point?

[@coryyoung1857]

​@@terrellbaker1660for now. But the longer he plays the more it's gonna drop

[@terrellbaker1660]

@@coryyoung1857 He will retire before he drops out of the top 10.

[@ericperry27]

Great video Concise, fair, and objective. 👍

[@Omw-yc6ec1gu7s]

Just looking at their first 13 full seasons it's clear who is far and away the best scorer and who is a complete fraud. If we look at their actual play on the court and see if they are both cleanly handling the ball and how often one carries the ball and travels in games it's even more clear who is a legit great player and arguably the best scorer ever. Jordan all the way.

[@Jero-P]

Hows lebron a fraud? Why the division here? Lebron is a fanastic once in our lifetime talent

[@CBrown]

The truth is simple: One guy (Jordan) averaged 30 PPG for his career while the other (LeBron) only averaged 27. In fact, LeBron only eclipsed 30 PPG for a season twice. Jordan did it 7 consecutive seasons. If he doesn't retire twice he's the all time leading scorer right now.

[@Melo_7_Leo]

@@CBrown If LeBron took as many shots per game as MJ did, he would score 31.7 PPG LeBron averages 19.6 shots per game in his career. MJ averaged 22.9 shots per game in his career. 3.3 more shots would give LeBron: 17.5 2PA's per game 5.4 3PA's per game 8.9 FTA's per game His career shooting %'s are: 55.5% - 2P% 34.9% - 3P% 73.6% - FT% He would score: 19.4 PPG on 2PA's 5.7 PPG on 3PA's 6.6 PPG on FTA's 31.7 PPG based on 22.9 shots per game LeBron was ALWAYS the better scorer, MJ just took more shots.

[@robertj8451]

Im a lebron guy but Jordan is an overall a better scorer. Lebrons drives to the rim were more efficent/effective then anything Jordan reguarly did. Problem is lebron cant drive and finish at the rim 30+ times every game, its too physically tasking. Jordan could and would shoot 30 + mid range jumpers a game .

[@snagginbirdies1006]

Please tell me this is sarcasm. Driving every time would be too hard on Lebron?? Why? Cuz you can’t touch him literally at all? Yeah that’s super difficult pfff

[@timmaz24s]

Imagine if John Stockton has the most assists and has one assist title. No one is gonna pay John any mind. That’s is LeBron to me in having the most points and having one scoring title . LeBron didn’t dominate in scoring he just last longer. Also LeBron lasted longer bcuz he interchanged teammates so many times.

[@146zigzag3]

Jordan has a career 49.7% fg percentage off 22.9 attempts per game. Lebron has a career 50.6 fg percentage off 19.6 attempts per game. So despite attempting 3.3 more shots per game Jordan is only .9% behind LeBron's fg percentage. Based of this you could argue Jordan was just as if not more efficent than Lebron.

[@TheDocmike23]

Its not even a question

[@wpriddy]

Outside of 3 feet lebron shoots 30%. He's only got the record because they made a rule to unclog the paint. And he goes to the line for dropping his shoulder and pushing off.

[@patrickmontie9583]

Most of LeBronze points are dunks and layups. He's like 35% outside 5 feet for his career.

[@metallinguist]

​@@wpriddy Let's see an accurate analysis of how often James gets away with offensive fouls and free throws for non-existent fouls. The difference between him and Jordan will be even more obvious

[@knutt81]

If you didn't "witness" MJ's career, you can't talk. And he wasn't a "once in a while" blow your mind guy. He did it every night, every game.

[@jamalrahmaan9804]

It does tell you that LeBooboo James is a terrible scorer. That's what the facts say.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@JorJorIvanovitch]

Well done. Stats and perspectives were presented in this video that are not often highlighted in other videos.

[@jameskinard9835]

The whole LBJ versus Jordan debate to any degree is subjective. Lebron and Mike are really not a good comparison. Kareem and Lebron would be a better comparison, because James even at his most popular was never to the heights of Michael Jordan. Hell, his contemporaries of Kobe Byrant and Steph Curry were and are more popular than he is.

[@seebbsss]

Not only more popular, way better players as well. Kobe won 2 basically by himself in an extremely hard western conference and Curry is LeFraud's daddy, so is Duncan, Dirk, Jokic, etc.

[@kaukase539]

@@seebbsss LeChoke has not only the missed shots he also has the most Daddy’s 😂😂😂

[@karimglasgow5518]

Those comps wouldn't be any less subjective.

[@nathancook2852]

LBJ vs Pippen is the better comparison.

[@kaukase539]

@@nathancook2852 Amen! Pipp is only a hair better than LeFlop!

[@MimiMimi-yj4kl]

Jordan is smaller compared to lebron but Jordan can carry and influence his team

[@JDB1322]

Even Carmelo and KD are better scorer than Lecry.

[@nathancook2852]

💯

[@ericjordan6059]

To boot, both these dudes have learned directly from Jordan (Melo) or by studying the tape (KD). That says a lot.

[@AJ_Osser]

Really? This is not even a debate. Lebron make layups and dunks in an era without interior defense and no hand checking.

[@warrenkarmun138]

🤔Lebron cried to the refs to go to the line on baby fouls,had the refs denied him he would have not have as many points.😢

[@Nysdaddy]

Mike won 10 scoring titles averaging 2,500+ points per. Lebron won 1 and never scored 2,500 points in a season.

[@editorodriguez6554]

Michael Jordan said best if he was there for stats he would’ve never retired and just kept playing, but he wasn’t there for stats. He was there to win championships and that’s what you joined the league for the win championships to build dynasties and have the best team while being the best player something LeBron James has lacked ever since he came into the NBA he is pathetic and the most manufactured NBA player there is nothing about him has been organic everything has beencatered to him by making the league soft taking away defense just for LeBron James should get his stats he’s the biggest pathetic NBA player to have ever come into the league.

[@M-DVD]

Bro, people *specially celebs* often talks bullst. Jordan was definitely worry for individual stats and records.Even once he said similar comments explaining why he was "so competitive" and worried for numbers because his goal was to make it clear that he was a biggest star and the greatest player ever. Heck, even his first years he sunk the Bulls for him.

[@laz0rama]

@@M-DVD mj didn't even mind when doug collins pulled him from a wizards game that ended his string of 10 pt games. that tells you how much he cared about stats. meanwhile, lebron's 10 pt streak has an 8 pt game IN THE FINALS smack dab in the middle of it. and lebron always insists on staying in a game, no matter how close it is, to make sure he gets his 10 pts. he is a pathetically insecure megalomaniac.

[@nathancook2852]

@@M-DVD Jordan never missed the playoffs in Chicago. What od you mean he sunk the Bulls? He shot so much because he didn't have anyone else to score. You gonna get Purdue or Wennington the ball? Jud Buechler? Letting Grant go 1v1? Kerr and Paxon had to rely on MJ to get them shots, they couldn't create on their own. Pip was unreliable as hell as a scorer. You all clearly haven't seen the games.

[@nathancook2852]

@@laz0rama And another single digit game in the playoffs. LBJ ended that streak twice, both times in the PLAYOFFS! SMDH.

[@maxdobasquete]

❤His Airness is the UNDISPUTED G.O.A.T! And was, still IS THE MOST DEADLY MOST SKILLED MID RANGE SHOOTER OF ALL TIME PAST AND FUTURE!!! 💪🏼🏀💪🏼🏀💪🏼🏀

[@Tron704]

Why LeBron can not be great. Is LeBron a great free throw shooter? Is LeBron a great 3-pointer shooter? Is LeBron a great dribbler? Is LeBron great at losing the ball while dribbling? Is LeBron great at turning the ball over? Is LeBron great at missing shots? Is LeBron great at not playing defense? Is LeBron great at excuses? Is LeBron great at blaming other teammates?

[@seebbsss]

No No No Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes

[@DnAGames69]

you can paint narratives like this for anyone though, i could do the same with any person you namefrom nba history

[@zane01235]

Lebron doesn't have the criteria for best scorer in NBA, he has criteria for longevity. PPG >>>>>> Career Points. An example, 10 scoring titles with highest Finals average vs 1 scoring title and mediocre finals average in 20+ seasons.

[@LargeDude2023]

How do you even compare a guy who played in an era where getting body slammed was a common foul to the defense of today where even foreign players like Luka say it’s easier to score now in the NBA than European basketball? You can’t. Context is everything.

[@jimmulcahey9312]

The greatest scorer in NBA history is Wilt Chamberlain his first 7 seasons.

[@karimglasgow5518]

Appreciate the objectivity; it's a refreshing deviation from the usual "no bag", "4 and 6 in the Finals" commentary that usually accompanies these arguments for MJ. For me, it's MJ, but it's closer than advertised. MJ's scoring titles - you alluded to this toward the end - were runaways where he'd average 32 and no one else averaged 30, and he's doing this while his team's conpeting for top playoff seeding. High volume and not remarkably efficient, but teams are focused on stopping him and rules at the time made it easier to do so. The case for Bron is, of course, he's more efficient (opponents were keying in on him, too), but also, his one scoring title wasn't an exception proving the rule. If anything, it felt like he was making the point that he could lead the league if he wanted, but was more concerned with making "the right play" like he used to always talk about (FWIW, I feel like his assist title was similarly about making a point). It's not really a reach to suggest that he could've averaged 30 for his career if he upped his per game FGAs. With that said, Bron's not even the best scorer of his generation; that's KD. Rockets Harden had a decent run for a bit, and now Luka's going off. It's pretty clear that it's become easier to score since MJ retired, so that needs to be factored in. Again, I think ultimately it goes back to that--Bron never created distance between himself and his contemporaries like MJ did.

[@nathancook2852]

Opponents don't key in on LBJ, The dare him to shoot... Someone doesn't watch the games...

[@koolkai4299]

KD vs Jordan is the real comparison with KD being the more efficient scorer from every single level of the court including free-throws. Jordan is the greatest "closer" though.

[@broderickbrownbrown4082]

LeBron Overrated, he’s not that great of a shooter just longevity stats, MJ was far greater not a debate!!!

[@high-defRJ]

Jordan scored more than 2,400 points in a season nine times, seven of them in consecutive years, while playing 78 games or more in those seasons, four of them all 82 games, leading the league in points per game and total points in the season. And oh, he took 10 scoring titles in his career. And he won 6 titles in 11 full years plus 2 short-seasons (injury and return season) with the Bulls.

[@dariuswilliams9044]

There're only 9 times in NBA history when a player has averaged 40+ PPG in a playoff series: 1⃣ Elgin Baylor 1962 Finals Vs. Celtics - 40.6 PPG on 43% shooting 2⃣ Jerry West 1965 WCF Vs. Bullets - 46.3 PPG on 45% shooting 3⃣ Rick Barry 1967 Finals Vs. 76ers - 40.8 PPG on 40% shooting 4⃣ Bernard King 1984 First Round Vs. Pistons - 42.6 PPG on 60% shooting 5⃣ Michael Jordan 1986 First Round Vs. Celtics - 43.7 PPG on 50% shooting 6⃣ Michael Jordan 1988 First Round Vs. Cavaliers - 45.2 PPG on 56% shooting 7⃣ Michael Jordan 1990 ECSF Vs. 76ers - 43 PPG on 55% shooting 8⃣ Michael Jordan 1992 First Round Vs. Heat - 45 PPG on 61% shooting 9⃣ Michael Jordan 1993 Finals Vs. Suns - 41 PPG on 50% shooting

[@jamesdyer3507]

Well done!

[@laz0rama]

good video. like anyone that actually saw basketball being played before 2000, there is no question in my mind that jordan is the best scorer ever. or at least, so far. (ever is a long time, and we ain't there yet). wilt was more dominant, but nobody, and i mean nobody, had the combination of skills, mentality, physical gifts, IQ and fundamentals that mj had. add to that the fact that he is one of the best defenders ever, plus a leader both on and off the court, and the goat conversation doesn't even make sense. lebron was great, and still can play some. but his lack of fundamentals, lack of actual skills, blatant opportunism, and stupendously weak minded attitude both on and off the court, disqualifies him from any possible goat talk. but again let me be clear: "greatest of all time" cannot possibly be determined when there is still time left. that said, michael jeffrey jordan is unquestionably, in my mind, the greatest basketball player SO FAR. the best i've ever seen, and i've been watching since 1969, a jordan-hating knicks fan.

[@DeadSpaceman2012]

Kareem held the scoring record for 39 years. He shot 18 3 pointers and made 1. For over half his career there was no three pointer. Lebron, to this point, has attempted 7083 3 pointers. Kareem achieved his record without threes.

[@IRIAZ1]

A player who can get you a bucket... anytime, anywhere... consistently

[@nathancook2852]

MJ

[@ScinterScoldem-pq9ew]

12:15 That Scottie Pippen goose egg!!!!! On his forehead is close to Iconic lol Look at that thing! lol Hard large strong and sharp elbows from Alonzo

[@alejandrobarrionuevo9957]

i have 'this' [before]: ill NEVER understand HOW ANYBODY can THINK 'Lebron James' is in the same league AS Michael Jordan ['period'].

[@JohnnyRodgers3]

Phill javkson said that oscar Robertson had the same level of foot work and was just as good with his vack ti the basket if not better than jordan😊

[@Omw-yc6ec1gu7s]

Rookie Jordan averaged 28.2 points per game despite great big men still controlling the paint and the defenses being much more physical than anything LeBron ever faced. LeBron James barely averaged 20 points in his rookie season shooting 41% compared to the 51.5% MJ shot as a rookie. Hand checking and other things Jordan faced were removed from the game to help LeBron James after his underwhelming rookie season. Even his second season was not as good as rookie Jordan.

[@ericjordan6059]

Good catch. Notice, Lebrons numbers didn't begin to get better until the rules changes took effect. And that was the first year he made the playoffs (2005-2006).

[@Reaper13-hi3yo]

Lebron was 18 years old as a rookie while MJ was 22 goofy

[@ericjordan6059]

@Reaper13-hi3yo ... So what dumb ass. If he wasn't ready, don't go out there and play. Another apologetic stupid ass.

[@marqj301]

This video shouldn't even exist and further proves the ignorance around this senseless debate. I won't sit here and deny Jordan's the better scorer, but he and LeBron have 2 completely different play styles. Jordan was a scorer and LeBron is a facilitator. Proof? The dude is 4th all time in assists. Jordan isn't even in the top 25 in assists, hence his scorer mentality. Same for Kobe. A more accurate comparison is Jordan and Kobe considering the latter was basically a copy of Jordan. LeBron's a modern day remix of Magic. This comparison of Jordan/LeBron needs to DIE because it makes no sense

[@Yashannya]

Jordan can be a stat guy . When his Point Guard was out for 11 games. He took the role of Point guard and makes 10 triple double in just 11 games. but then he choose to score rather than to be a facilitator

[@bballfanKU1313-l9z]

11 games isnt a large enough sample to size to say he would be able to do it an entire season or seasons

[@jovetvikfaye-lund2388]

MJ the best scorer and the better basketballplayer. It would also be interesting to see the ppg avg compared to their teams avg ppg. How big % of the teams points they contributed to.

[@chimukun7319]

Adjust era stats, and the gap is much more lopsided, eventhough MJ doesnt even need that. MJ, Kobe, Shaq, etc were all better than Lebron at scoring, and a lot of other things

[@giovalladares1022]

NO ONE was arguing Kareem was the greatest scorer ever when he retired since we knew about Jordan. Suddenly LeBron became the all time scorer and this argument started popping up. It was a longevity stat for Kareem but not forLeBron? Ridiculous

[@Decboy80]

Name the other player besides Lebron in NBA history who has averaged 25+ points per game for 20 seasons…I’ll wait. Also, you Jordan fans never want to tell the whole story. MJ led the entire league in shot attempts for 10 seasons. That’s how he outscored everyone else. Lebron has never led the league in shot attempts…not once in his 22 season career. In MJ’s 15 year career compared to Lebron’s first 15 years, Jordan shot over 3,000 more shots…so he clearly was a shot chukker. Yet Lebron only has a 3 point career average difference, while Jordan averaged 3 more shot attempts per game. If Lebron would’ve shot 3 more shots per game on average, I’m sure he could’ve made up that 3 point difference.

[@kaukase539]

LeChoke leads the entire league now in: Total points Total missed shots Total Turnovers Total lost playoff games Total lost finals games Total FT air balls Total 3 pointer air balls Total midrange airballs Total most not called travels Total not called fouls Total not called technicals

[@Decboy80]

@ It’s funny how you people say that Lebron has the most points only because he has played longer than everyone else. Yet, somehow that logic goes away with any negative stat…Even though the majority of what you listed is fake. Also, you forgot to mention many more positive records Lebron has on his resume.

[@kaukase539]

@@Decboy80 Its funny you people do the same thing 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ I wrote “total points” you can’t read? Its a good thing, he leads the entire league in total points of all times 👍👍👍👍 But also in 28 negative stats…..at least! He is not leading the all time assists list! It’s a little bit confusing! Is he the best in assists or is it Stockton???!!! Again, he leads in Turnovers, missed shots, lost games, bricks, losses….list goes on forever! But he is not the best in assists! What says that about your facilitator!?!?!?! He is a fraud! There is an interview about the 2011 finals! He says, it’s not his fault, it’s the fault of the weak bench player! THE WEAK BENCHPLAYER!!!!!!???? He choked so badly, you could make a whole documentary about that! By the way, he choked a lot, not only that year! The only chance to win a championship for LeLoser is, to bring his talent to the real winner and win cheap rings! His rings are less worth than the one Ring of Dirk!

[@Decboy80]

@@kaukase539 Clearly you can’t read, because I said the MAJORITY of your list was fake. Nobody said Lebron was #1 in assists…but he’s #4 all-time though. Where is Jordan on that list? Not even close. Matter of fact, what is Jordan #1 in exactly? - Not championships - Not league MVPs - Not All-Star selections - Not All-NBA selections - Not All-NBA defensive selections - Not points - Not assists - Not Rebounds - Not steals - Not blocks - Not Playoff wins - Only ppg average & Finals MVPs Also, Lebron does not lead in career game loses…that’s false. He does lead in playoff game loses, while also leading in playoff game wins. Lebron leads in missed shots, but has also attempted the most shots in NBA history due to how long he’s played. However, his career field goal percentage is higher than Jordan’s…so now what?

[@nathancook2852]

Gee, why did Jordan have to take so many shots? Because he didn't have scorers with him, and yet he still somehow found a way to be 6th all time among shooting guards in assists. Lebron has always played with scorers when he won, because he can't score anything but a wide open drive to the basket or a a offensive foul that doesn't get called. Or he gets a bail out foul call. But then he misses the FT so I guess that evens out.

[@ruddiato]

Give lebron the title. Mj been done with the game , MJ is an icon /legend. Mj could careless about the GOAT title or scoring stats. He made basketball a worldwide phenomenon which transcended to other things

[@AT-vc6ds]

Jordan valued scoring to win, which resulted in 6 rings! LBJ values scoring for, well… it’s anyone’s guess why he scores! Should do a video on fourth quarter scoring between the two?

[@nathantrimner2705]

This one isn't even close. Jordan was the best offensive player ever.

[@formallyknownasjojoemcpart6684]

LeBron wouldn't have lasted 10 seasons in the 80's or 90's.

[@jasonds0061]

MJ won the scoring title 10 times, LeBron 1 time while having a longer career, end of debate lol

[@rocheetoile649]

Consecutive playoff series as leading scorer: Olajuwan 11, Kobe 10, Kareem 9, Malone 9, Lebron 8, Baylor 8, Mikan 8, Iverson 8, Wilt 7, Moses 7, Pierce 7, Dr.J 6, KD 6, T-Mac 6, Barry 5, Bird 5, Shaq 5, West 5, Robertson 5, Nowitzki 5, McAdoo 5, Doncic 5, Carmelo 5... MJ 36!!!

[@nathancook2852]

He was only outscored in a playoff series 1 time and by only 1 points. It was as a rookie in his first every playoff series.

[@finkelmana]

Numbers dont lie. However, interpretations do. Honestly, I dont care who is the better scorer. The problem is people will pick and choose stats that prove their belief, while discounting others. "Yes he [LeBron] does facilitate more than Jordan, but its not as much as you think." Well, you brought it up, so lets discuss it.. LeBron IS the better facilitator between him and Jordan. He is literally one of the best passers of ALL-TIME. He has the 4th most assists all-time, while Jordan doesnt make the top 50. LeBron's average APG is 24th all-time, while Jordan doesnt even crack the top 100. These numbers should not be dismissed so casually.

[@Jero-P]

Thank you. Good lord

[@laz0rama]

mj had to be the big scorer on his teams, that is what was asked of/needed from him. when he was asked to be a playmaker, he did so on a stellar level. averaged over 11 assists per game in the 91 finals (his first), against the best point guard that has ever set foot on a court. and still led the series in scoring. lebron is a good passer, maybe even a better passer than mj, but his assist numbers are seriously inflated by how stats are recorded these days. there are numerous videos here on youtube demonstrating how often lebron gets credited with assists that absolutely should not be, even by todays nba rules. and the bottom line here, for me, is that lebron does NOT make his teammates better (they end up getting worse). jordan did.

[@finkelmana]

@@laz0rama Every star player had their stats padded by the home team's statisticians. Even Jordan's, which has been proven.

[@nathancook2852]

Go watch Jordan. He gets his guys shots. LBJ gets his guys the ball 30 ft from the basket and they take 3 dribbles, beat their guy, beat another guy at the rim, and LBJ gets an assist. And there is no denying the assist rules are easier today. That is just a fact. In MJ's day if the shooter took more than one dribble you were not getting an assist. Guys get assists after 4-5 dribbles these days...

[@finkelmana]

@@nathancook2852 Ive watched Jordan since he entered the league

[@seandunrod969]

Hey it MJ all day every day. MJ23🏀🐐🏀

[@chili40m]

MJ has often times, dunked over larger defenders facing in the paint. However Lebron James only dunks over smaller defenders or either have wide open dunks without anyone playing tough defense on him. No offense to lebron's fans

[@DavidFreeborn]

I wonder if Rip Hamilton learned his mid-range from MJ?

[@vinceyoungrulez]

I know the NBA needs to promote their players and try to build them up and get more fans and interest going, but trying to say Lebron is even in the same stratosphere as MJ is simply moronic.

[@nathancook2852]

Jordan largely did as well. Jordan never practiced the 3, but we saw what he did in the playoffs when people said he couldn't shoot... He would shoot 45% on 3's in today's game. So would Bird.

[@ggates2500]

Michael was more skilled by a LONG way. If you were to put LeBron's skills in Michael's body, I bet he's above average. Put Michael's skills in Lebron's body, he'd have 5 points more than MJ every single night in the 90s, 20 more in today's game.

[@parkermudsen1063]

This is such a ridiculous argument in the first place. At no point in time was it a debate on who the greater scorer was between MJ and Kareem just because KAJ had the all time record. But now that it’s lebron this is supposed to be a legitimate argument? 😆

[@UrBMsCrib]

So because he’s made more over his 21 year career does that mean LeBron is also a better 3point shooter than Dirk, Peja , K.Korver, G.Rice, JJ Reddick exc?

[@Spidy-kun]

Cherry Picking at its finest

[@nathancook2852]

I didn't watch the video, did he show LBJ arguing with the ref and not getting back on defense. Then AD makes a great defensive play to bail him out and also get LBJ 2 free points. That happens what, 3-4 times per game now.

[@LizardMan78]

yeah ok buddy

[@DEADGAME1805]

Kobe's double teamed 3 😂🤣 GOAT.

[@ForEducationalPurposesOnly]

one guy has 10 scoring titles the other has 1.

[@xKingKB7x]

Jordan was a better mid range scorer. Lebron is better inside the paint and from 3. Lebron career FGA is 20 while MJ career FGA is 23. That’s potentially 6-9 points Lebron leaving on the floor and MJ only averages 3 more points for his career. Now remove those seasons where that shortened the 3 point line and MJ is shooting under 30% from 3 whereas Bron is shooting 35% on higher volume Inside-Bron Mid Range-MJ Free Throws-MJ 3point-Bron

[@evanclp514]

Jordan is a better scorer, better shooter, better ball handler, better defender, better shot blocker, better stealer of the ball, and more clutch than LeBron. Jordan is just overall a much more skilled basketball player than LeBron. the only parts of LeBron's game that are better than Jordan are passing and rebounding. LeBron is not even close to Jordan in the GOAT debate. it's an argument which LeBron has inserted himself into and the media has created for clicks and views. the gap between Jordan and whoever is 2nd all-time is larger than the gap between whoever is 2nd and whoever is 15th.

[@joel-s4w8x]

Lebron for his career only shoots 37% outside of 3 feet and in the playoffs it's even worse at 31%. This shows that he has no midrange game whatsoever and can't shoot jumpers and that's where Jordan was the best in history. MJ could score 40 just shooting turnarounds and midrange shots all game long. Lebron has just been fortunate to play in an era with no handchecking and no bigs clogging the lane like there were in the 80s and 90s when MJ played. It was much more difficult to score 30 back then than in Lebron's era.

[@darkballerz]

Dwade vs kobe video ❤❤❤

[@MikeFilsaime-com]

Why are we even comparing them anymore. It's closed. Jordan is not only better there may never be anyone better. Anyone who saw them both play knows hands down Jordan is in a league of his own. I put LBJ at #4. I have 2 additional players over him. Magic and Bird Jordan Magic Bird Lebron Kobe

[@Bhendrix96]

7:58 Tim Duncan said LeBron was the best player in the world. Even with all those weaknesses

[@DeeKAAM]

I knew it was gonna be one of “those” videos😂😂da fact dat u had to make a video of who’s a better scorer is Y Bron my goat kuz u kant make da same video comparing their playmaking kuz Lebron’s MILES AHEAD of MJ. U said he’s not pass first since he averaged over 20 FGA yet he never lead da league in FGA Vs MJ who did it almost every single season lolz who else is top 10 in points N assists all time? Wat about top 20? Top 30? It’s only one person N he’s top 5 in both dats da goat

[@Sf75178]

Totals show great career not better player

[@Reaper13-hi3yo]

@@Sf75178 So this is where the simple & casual Jordashians come these days

[@Sf75178]

@@Reaper13-hi3yo i see you haven't got the help you need yet. That and you don't know what a good argument is

[@Reaper13-hi3yo]

@@Sf75178 It would be tough to understand my topics having such a low basketball acumen. It's okay little buddy, one day.

[@Sf75178]

@Reaper13-hi3yo no one understands you as you weirdly believe opinions are the same as facts

[@dangerx7697]

All-time leader in points means nothing whenever you've been in 23 years 333..... hell imagine what Jordan would have if he was in 23 years. He's accomplished more than twice of all the things LeBron has and he was only in half the time

[@koolkai4299]

Excellent video and analysis! Lebron James usnt even the greatest scorer from his era. That would be Kevin Durant.

[@jordan-xe2yb]

This is a silly debate. It’s not close. Lebron is not close.

[@paulivey8565]

Jordan got all the swag!!! MJ smokes lebron James in every way!!

[@jdchatelain222]

I wish this debate was between James and koby. Or James and Magic. With MJ is not a debate or even an interesting discussion.

[@tonytonicca7443]

This is one area of the game that Lebron or anyone outside of Wilt, does not come close to Jordan, The fact that this MF had 10 CONSECUTIVE scoring title when no one else has more than 7 in total is more than enough reason to not even have a debate

[@bballfanKU1313-l9z]

Leading the league in shot attempts 9X for the 10 scoring titles isnt nearly as impressive as you think it is

[@tonytonicca7443]

@bballfanKU1313-l9z it is when you're making 50% of them shot bruv! Curry always leads the league in 3 point attempts and no sane minded per would say his 3 point records arent impressive because he chucks them more than anyone.. it is the clip that he nails them down at tthat makes it impressive. So yea you cant down play those scoring titles even if you tried

[@bballfanKU1313-l9z]

@@tonytonicca7443 He played in a zone-less era of glorified 1 on 1 ball in which he was bigger than his defenders and would just rise up over them. Before you say he would have been as successful with zones- look up what MJ said about zones "If zones were around in the 90's I wouldnt have 6 titles I can tell you that". MJ is the product of a watered down expansion era with no contemporaries or truly historic teams in opposition.

[@tonytonicca7443]

@@bballfanKU1313-l9z lol ofcourse! Downplay the 90s because a man dominated and prop up this era where travelling is basically no longer called and theres absolutely no defence lol yea watered down you say.. that time we are living in an Era of Play-In tournaments😂 this is not the route you wanna take

[@Yashannya]

im a fan of both. But 40k points is not an accolade bro 😂

[@damo5350]

? You need to debate this ?

[@nathancook2852]

10 scoring titles to 1. All time ppg leader to ... not all time ppg leader. The clickbait worked, but this is MJ all day long and twice if it is a playoff game.

[@fictionrumble]

MJ: most feared player ever Lebron: most scared player ever

[@Zachdennis21]

Lebron isn’t even in the same freaking level as mj like mj is a pure beast scorer , he would pick lebrons pocket all day dude can’t dribble