Jordan vs Lebron - The Best GOAT Comparison

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Jordan vs. Lebron. In this video, we tackle the NBA Goat Debate to determine -- once and for all -- who is basketball's Greatest
00:00 - Opening Montage
01:20 - Introduction
03:28 - Accomplishments
04:24 - Longevity
05:27 - Winning
11:17 - Statistics
17:18 - The "Eye Test"
28:46 - Mount Rushmore
30:33 - Closing Montage
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@DANGERProductions2020
@DANGERProductions2020 4 жыл бұрын
Who do you think the GOAT is? Jordan, Lebron, or someone else?
@marcogiorno7653
@marcogiorno7653 4 жыл бұрын
DANGERProductions MJ
@mortisthemagnificent376
@mortisthemagnificent376 4 жыл бұрын
MJ no question
@xdtryhard8542
@xdtryhard8542 4 жыл бұрын
LeBron James
@cristhianmartinez1695
@cristhianmartinez1695 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron Goat ,MJ played wit plumbers and truck drivers if bron played in the 90s he would Ram anybody on his way 6,9 250 pounds 💯💯
@everglades663
@everglades663 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron
@timmyturnt
@timmyturnt 3 жыл бұрын
“LeBron was universally respected, Jordan was universally feared.” - Stephen A Smith
@Abbad1579
@Abbad1579 3 жыл бұрын
Fax.
@persieclines1746
@persieclines1746 3 жыл бұрын
"People say dumb shit like Mike is better than LeBron ". - Persie Clines
@scottyk1763
@scottyk1763 3 жыл бұрын
@@persieclines1746 now son if you keep failing these tests for basic math how are you suppose to argue with people online late at night. Get yo ass to bed
@Abbad1579
@Abbad1579 3 жыл бұрын
@@persieclines1746 Because Mike was better,
@persieclines1746
@persieclines1746 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottyk1763 2k isn't reality. I know you believe it is.
@symbian74
@symbian74 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron : I have the most points in Game Seven in Finals history. Jordan : What's a game 7? LOL
@ayporos6049
@ayporos6049 4 жыл бұрын
Savage!
@davidwilliams316
@davidwilliams316 4 жыл бұрын
@Gurmanav Singh no team was good enough
@davidwilliams316
@davidwilliams316 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan played 3 game 7s and choked one. he always had great teammates but had problems in the east before it got weak.
@davidwilliams316
@davidwilliams316 4 жыл бұрын
lebron has the most points in game 7 in every round
@jorgecardenas4342
@jorgecardenas4342 4 жыл бұрын
bob brown Lebron said i have the most points in an nba game 7 FINAL in history. Jordan has never been in a game 7. Lebron doesn’t have the killer insect like Jordan
@thesenate5913
@thesenate5913 Жыл бұрын
You know you’re the GOAT when the opposing team’s strategy is to “not piss Jordan off”
@DesroQc
@DesroQc Жыл бұрын
Hahaha I remember a player saying that this is how he approached playing against MJ. You just kill him with kindness and you don't give him any reason to take sh*t personal 😂
@adamm2787
@adamm2787 Жыл бұрын
Right...Lebrons Cavs got swept in the finals and the Spurs strategy was "Let Lebron shoot."
@thesenate5913
@thesenate5913 Жыл бұрын
@@adamm2787 tells alot how shit lebron is at shooting
@MistahUnknown
@MistahUnknown 10 ай бұрын
@@adamm2787 Who said it was their strategy?
@auc2.0
@auc2.0 9 ай бұрын
@@MistahUnknownCasual that was their strategy.
@petery5150
@petery5150 11 ай бұрын
Let's also consider that Jordan was allowed 2 steps after picking up his dribble, and Lebron gets 4...
@The_ZeroLine
@The_ZeroLine 10 ай бұрын
And plays in a league where you can’t touch anyone. 65% of MJ’s career was during a time you could body check someone and not even a get a flagrant foul. MJ had every single tool. Jordan has more amazing highlights just during random games no one remembers like 2.3.90 against the Spurs and Robinson.
@yosnags8447
@yosnags8447 10 ай бұрын
shit tim donaghy would beg to differ quote “I was in Philadelphia and I am refereeing Sixers-Bulls. They were cracking down on the spin move that they wanted the officials to call traveling. Michael Jordan makes the spin move, I make the call. Phil Jackson comes off the bench and he starts giving me sh*t. I say, 'wait a second, Phil. You know as well as I do that's the spin move they're telling us to call.' And he said, 'while they might want that play called, they certainly don't want it called on him', and he pointed at Jordan who just walked by and stared at me. I got in the locker room, the other referee said, 'they want that call but don't want to on him.”
@Somethingwittyxs4ku
@Somethingwittyxs4ku 10 ай бұрын
@@yosnags8447Ummm… I was a teenager in the 90’s and I’m incredibly bored watching basketball now. However, I can say this irrefutable statement: BOTH MJ and LBJ get calls in favour of them. I wouldn’t be harping on that point as I see LBJ get all calls his way. You know he ISN’T getting a normal call his way when he’s screaming at a ref throwing a HUGE princess fit.
@grillbuster1519
@grillbuster1519 9 ай бұрын
Are you kidding? MJ invented the legal travel. and had weak guards facing him in big games - mostly 1v1 with no zone defense. Ex, Danny Ainge, Dan Majerle, Craig Ehlo, Scott skiles, 175lb Kevin Johnson, etc. Dumars was ok, but the size of Steph curry and MJ lost to him lost of the time.
@The_ZeroLine
@The_ZeroLine 9 ай бұрын
@@grillbuster1519 He had two step travels on breakaway dunks. They get about four steps today. There were lots of good defense guard, but even if you claim they weren’t, at least people played hard defense then and you had to be willing to get physically punished if you want to drive to the hole often.
@melev23
@melev23 3 жыл бұрын
Scouting report on LBJ: make him go left. Send him to free throw line. Give him midrange jumpers. Scouting report on MJ: don’t piss him off
@remmah192
@remmah192 3 жыл бұрын
Boy isn’t that the truth!
@samsoordost1466
@samsoordost1466 3 жыл бұрын
That is great!!!!
@caircn5747
@caircn5747 3 жыл бұрын
when it comes to layups LeBron is left hand dominant you dumb ass. literally the best driver in nba history. scouting report on MJ is you don't have anything to fear unless he's getting carried by scotty pippen
@remmah192
@remmah192 3 жыл бұрын
@@caircn5747 you clearly didn’t watch the video,,
@AK-sc9ln
@AK-sc9ln 3 жыл бұрын
Force MJ to shoot a 3!
@user-dy9yy4il9h
@user-dy9yy4il9h 4 жыл бұрын
My man you just destroyed a debate that wasn't even supposed to exist
@naveenreddyadmala3669
@naveenreddyadmala3669 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron da goat...... he's more athletic
@wakemeupnow4496
@wakemeupnow4496 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron ain’t even better than Kobe. Shoulda done a Lebron vs Kobe
@glendaledavemunoz8181
@glendaledavemunoz8181 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron👑🦁
@johnweak628
@johnweak628 4 жыл бұрын
@@naveenreddyadmala3669 Dude if we assume that Lebron is more athletic, that would make MJ even better than him because MJ has accomplished a lot despite being less athletic.
@mattbrown6392
@mattbrown6392 4 жыл бұрын
Jordan may very well be the goat/better player. I am a person who is really neutral on that topic. I would say that just because Jordan’s opponents in the finals won a lot of regular season games doesn’t make them just as competitive as the teams Lebron’s teams lost to. I feel like no team could ever beat the warriors teams with KD on them. Period. They are the goat juggernauts and they are weak for teaming up like that but no team is touching them in any era. So if the bulls would have had a chance to beat them and did, I would feel this way about Jordan, but I know they’d get punished like Everyone else who’d try to take on the 2 best shooters ever and the best 7 footer-ish ever in KD. And yes, he may be 6’11” but he is not 6’9” lol.
@JamesWilson-er6mr
@JamesWilson-er6mr Жыл бұрын
I never understood how the mj and lebron convo ever even got started in the first place
@TooCompy
@TooCompy Жыл бұрын
The media meatriding
@royhobbs3214
@royhobbs3214 11 ай бұрын
Nick Wright started it after LeBron lost to Golden State in 2017
@elisampley7598
@elisampley7598 8 ай бұрын
NIKE and the NBA need to always have a current goat to sell merchandise and products.
@shaynailer6555
@shaynailer6555 8 ай бұрын
Lebron started it when he claimed with a straight face that this win makes me the best of all time lol check out the other stars in the room when he says it Bahahaha Only thing more laughable is his sprite add Love you Lebron but stay in your lane you’re heads to big I can’t see the screen
@ruffdhalez
@ruffdhalez 5 ай бұрын
@@elisampley7598 well said.
@CaptTsubasa09
@CaptTsubasa09 Жыл бұрын
It was an honour to be able to watch MJ all those years ago. No doubt the GOAT. The best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be.
@georgeanthony7282
@georgeanthony7282 10 ай бұрын
Maybe there will be someone who will come close someday... but by today's playing standards, the fact that playing actual defense in the league is almost non existent, I truly doubt it!
@thelovepodcastnetwork4375
@thelovepodcastnetwork4375 9 ай бұрын
😂the best that ever will be ,😂stop it, he's the best now yes😂
@TryuulDown-gp9dv
@TryuulDown-gp9dv 8 ай бұрын
Yes, ever will be. The game has de-evolved to the point that no one will have the opportunity to be better. And even if they did, MJ is such an anomaly, you’d need millions of years of NBA to see another, so it’ll never happen again.
@g7investments432
@g7investments432 8 ай бұрын
He was the Brett Hart of the NBA
@bowenhammack6155
@bowenhammack6155 6 ай бұрын
What was Jordan “the goats” playoff record without pippen btw?
@ankitkumar-qe4zh
@ankitkumar-qe4zh 3 жыл бұрын
Do Americans know that MJ is more popular than the basketball game itself. I'm from india and basketball is non existing here but Everyone remembers MJ as one of the greatest athletes of all time and THE GREATEST BASKETBALL PLAYER OF ALL TIME.
@Eotty30
@Eotty30 3 жыл бұрын
@@beepthestrongestwarrior8746 evil
@beepthestrongestwarrior8746
@beepthestrongestwarrior8746 3 жыл бұрын
@@Eotty30 The hardest choices require the strongest wills
@allanhouston6759
@allanhouston6759 3 жыл бұрын
*All-Nba Player.* LBJ"s era ( 2003/2018 ): *East- 58.* *West- 147.* Lebron James feasted in the weak East. Let"s not forget that Joakim Noah was the last first team All-Nba Player ( 2014 ) besides Lebron James before Giannis ( 2019 ).
@lebaldjames400
@lebaldjames400 3 жыл бұрын
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@persieclines1746
@persieclines1746 3 жыл бұрын
@@beepthestrongestwarrior8746 It's nice you took time away from relations with your sister to drop a racist joke. I'll let you get back to selling your kids Xbox for oxy.
@georgewrld1174
@georgewrld1174 3 жыл бұрын
“A true king never crowns himself” -George R.R Martin. Lebron said he’s the goat, Jordan let the others say he’s the goat
@salomoney23
@salomoney23 3 жыл бұрын
Thx 😊 answering to the one’s that like LeFlopper James. I just like MJ, Kobe.
@crosswiz6
@crosswiz6 3 жыл бұрын
@IkImTheBest He said he felt like that made him the goat..same shit as saying I'm the goat just worded differently come man stop nitpicking
@crosswiz6
@crosswiz6 3 жыл бұрын
@IkImTheBest So ur gonna sit there and tell me Lebron doesn't think he's the goat? 😂 come on..
@doyskiesensei6358
@doyskiesensei6358 3 жыл бұрын
I die in this comment😄.....
@basedbear1605
@basedbear1605 3 жыл бұрын
@@crosswiz6 You don't listen.
@elisampley7598
@elisampley7598 11 ай бұрын
MJ for 3 reasons 1. Killer instinct and highly competitive 2. Tough and unshakeable 3. Small feet for quickness at 6'6 and hands of a 7'8 center. Jordan could do things with those big hands players of a similar size like Kobe and LBJ could never do. MJ was a once in a 100 year athlete just like Wilt was for his position.
@user-cn8nu6lq4w
@user-cn8nu6lq4w 8 ай бұрын
lol what? Foot size doesn't really affect speed.
@elisampley7598
@elisampley7598 8 ай бұрын
@@user-cn8nu6lq4w not speed, agility. And yes it does matter when it comes to agility. It gave Jordan a very quick first step.
@user-cn8nu6lq4w
@user-cn8nu6lq4w 8 ай бұрын
That isn't a thing. A high ratio of fast-twitch muscle, good limb ratios and lower body strength gave Jordan a quick first step... and quick everything else. @@elisampley7598
@bowenhammack6155
@bowenhammack6155 6 ай бұрын
What was Jordan’s playoff record without pippen again?
@elisampley7598
@elisampley7598 6 ай бұрын
@@bowenhammack6155 lmao look at his career average stats. Dwayne Wade was a far better player, hell even Bosh was and I don't see the HEAT with LBJ getting a 3 peat
@stevelo2057
@stevelo2057 10 ай бұрын
From what i googled 1994-95 Chicago Bulls season The Bulls struggled in the first half of the season with a 23-25 record at the All-Star break. Jordan faxed a memo that simply said "I'm back." Then The Bulls won 24 of their final 34 games, and finished the season with a 47-35 record, going 13-4 with Jordan back in the lineup. Note: This was the Jordan has been swing baseball bats for 12+ months, not playing basketball.
@seymourbutts5277
@seymourbutts5277 7 ай бұрын
it was wild man. but he wasn't in basketball shape to take them all the way. then they 3-peated again lol
@andyprezeau4876
@andyprezeau4876 3 жыл бұрын
This video needs to be aired on ESPN
@gasparaangeles7411
@gasparaangeles7411 3 жыл бұрын
Yes please. Hope Stephen A got hold of this.
@salvadorrentas567
@salvadorrentas567 3 жыл бұрын
Never a doubt in my mind. MJ has always been the GOAT.
@chazelcamillenapiza-bellez4163
@chazelcamillenapiza-bellez4163 3 жыл бұрын
This needs to be aired on ESPN with Nick Wright and Shannon Sharpe as presentors
@basha8836
@basha8836 3 жыл бұрын
@@chazelcamillenapiza-bellez4163 I wonder who's gonna be the special guest? Skip Bayless? Paul Pierce? Kendrick Perkins? Ryan Hollins?
@keathwilliams2855
@keathwilliams2855 3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@alexobed3184
@alexobed3184 4 жыл бұрын
"So what's the greater achievement: beating the juggernaut--or being the juggernaut?" Damn, this question is just so good.
@thegoat1262
@thegoat1262 3 жыл бұрын
@Inigo Bantok he was playing passive in 2011 and they were using a zone scheme stoping the drive from lebron with dpoy Tyson Chandler and in 2014 d wade was washed from his former self I would hardly call it a juggernaut he was damn near by himself out there
@thefirstechlon5522
@thefirstechlon5522 3 жыл бұрын
Inigo Bantok kawhi said it was his turn in 2014
@derrickchambers3271
@derrickchambers3271 3 жыл бұрын
This was an amazing point illustrated. Being the juggernaut again, again, again, and again, again, and again! DOMINANCE.
@NoMoreLPCPP-NPA
@NoMoreLPCPP-NPA 3 жыл бұрын
@@thegoat1262 that just proves the point of the video. Lebron cant shoot outside of 0-3 FT.
@stormeditz3920
@stormeditz3920 3 жыл бұрын
honestly it’s beating the juggernaut, if you are the juggernaut, you have a good team around u
@Nifava
@Nifava Ай бұрын
It's hard for the younger people to grasp Michael Jordan's greatness. Jordan was Jordan ALL THE TIME. You can't possibly realize that without having witnessed it at the time. Also, people always show the same highligts of him but he was relentless. Always a joy to watch. Always on top of his game. If it wasn't for those last two years in Washington nearing 40 we would never have seen him decline.
@AndenSeefahrer
@AndenSeefahrer 2 ай бұрын
Michael Jordan loved winning. Kobe Bryant loved Basketball. LeBron loves himself.
@davidgray3945
@davidgray3945 4 жыл бұрын
Arguing who is the greatest player in NBA history is such a waste of time. The argument should be who is no. 2.
@nickmcmurray3130
@nickmcmurray3130 4 жыл бұрын
I’d argue Wilt tbh
@davidgray3945
@davidgray3945 4 жыл бұрын
@@nickmcmurray3130Absolutely--for that no. 2.
@LegitDalton
@LegitDalton 4 жыл бұрын
Nick McMurray if you’ve looked into anything about Wilt’s time you would know it was obvious that Russell was a better player. Coaches, analyst, and other players from that time say the same thing. Wilt isn’t even top 5
@nickmcmurray3130
@nickmcmurray3130 4 жыл бұрын
Lightnin I don’t really think it’s that obvious or simple. Russell was an incredible player and you could argue he was the most unselfish, most team oriented player of all time. And also the greatest rebounder and defender of all time. But Wilt just dominated too much for me not to consider him better. The fact is Russell played with better teammates and Wilt still took the Celtics to elimination games on multiple occasions. Wilt was a far better scorer, lead the league in rebounds more, played almost as good of defense, and even lead the league in assists one season, something no Center had ever done. And I believe that season the Sixers won 68 games, so it’s not like he was just doing it to stat pad, it actually lead to a really good winning record. Wilt holds more statistical records than anyone in history, while being a 2 time champion, a 4 time MVP, a Finals MVP, a 7 time scoring champion, ASG MVP, and won one of his MVPs as a rookie. Don’t mistake me for disrespecting Russell because I’m not. He’s the GOAT defender and was the most unselfish player in history. But Wilt was just different
@ghostkid1118
@ghostkid1118 4 жыл бұрын
LeBrons 2nd best player of all time no question about it💯
@x32gx
@x32gx 3 жыл бұрын
In contrast to Lebron, I never heard MJ, not even once, during his entire career ever, say he was the greatest. It was the whole world that said that.
@unclecraig8790
@unclecraig8790 3 жыл бұрын
Berus Craig u didn’t even watch the video if u think that
@neutralgirl8997
@neutralgirl8997 3 жыл бұрын
He may not have said it directly & publicly. But MJ implied that he was the GOAT on several occasions.
@MPMCFC
@MPMCFC 3 жыл бұрын
“When you’re good, you tell everyone When you’re great, everyone tells you” -Walter Payton
@illenessOne
@illenessOne 3 жыл бұрын
The world gave him his title, not him bluntly say it.
@OK-ce8cn
@OK-ce8cn 3 жыл бұрын
Berus Craig lmao the jordan rules were meant to stop mj. And if u think about it have they ever made rules to stop LeBron🤔
@imogendedo8296
@imogendedo8296 Жыл бұрын
I just found this vid. The way that you broke this down is great. You explained complex analytics in a way that a 5 year old could understand, your arguments were rock solid and most importantly, you were fair.
@markokuhar670
@markokuhar670 3 ай бұрын
Idk why ESPN can’t hire guys like him😂
@sabin97
@sabin97 2 ай бұрын
@@markokuhar670 because factually correct information and mathematical analysis doesnt sell. sensationalism and misinformation sell. espn isnt in it for the sports. they are in it for the profits.
@markokuhar670
@markokuhar670 2 ай бұрын
@@sabin97 and honestly that’s why I stopped watching ESPN and why I’ve been just watching independent sports channels on KZbin and podcasts. Content is way more enjoyable
@sabin97
@sabin97 2 ай бұрын
@@markokuhar670 yeah, capitalism tends to ruin everything.
@rafaelisslaam1894
@rafaelisslaam1894 Ай бұрын
@@sabin97that’s factual, they intentionally say controversial things to get ratings and comments
@nightcorefan1440
@nightcorefan1440 11 ай бұрын
You also got to remember the time MJ played well dealing with the flu and still won the game. That's incredibly impressive.
@vg1024
@vg1024 5 ай бұрын
*food poisoning
@ElderYouth
@ElderYouth 3 жыл бұрын
This guy retired almost 20 years ago and keep his life private, doesn't engage personally on social media and until now we are still talking about him. Thats Greatness right there. And his shoes sold more than the current players combined.
@bricefleckenstein9666
@bricefleckenstein9666 3 жыл бұрын
Bill was MORE private than MJ, and we were still talking about him over 40 years after he retired (he started getting more public around 2000). Chuck Taylor probably had more shoe sales than MJ did - but that's at least a debate.
@edenganael1048
@edenganael1048 3 жыл бұрын
@@bricefleckenstein9666 they all legends
@jermaincummings2679
@jermaincummings2679 3 жыл бұрын
So true
@thewave1007
@thewave1007 3 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing you not taking his shoes into account
@astingray5282
@astingray5282 3 жыл бұрын
@@bricefleckenstein9666 Guys LeBron never played for the bulls
@alfredodooley6229
@alfredodooley6229 3 жыл бұрын
I have had the privilege of seeing both players entire careers, Lebron’s to this point, and while I think they both are great... Jordan is literally the best player I’ve ever seen to this day...
@yalmirarodriguez712
@yalmirarodriguez712 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously...there is no comparison....MJ vs crybaby
@br2147
@br2147 3 жыл бұрын
@@yalmirarodriguez712 facts
@itsactuallytony5699
@itsactuallytony5699 3 жыл бұрын
You are so lucky
@jmmondragon9825
@jmmondragon9825 3 жыл бұрын
Agree
@alfredodooley6229
@alfredodooley6229 3 жыл бұрын
@@itsactuallytony5699 I feel privileged. Between those two and Kobe, I have seen some amazing players in their prime. Jordan, Lebron, and Kobe.
@bananaman5668
@bananaman5668 8 ай бұрын
Damn I just looked up the stat he said at the end for Lebron where he made 19 clutch shots out of 94 attempts. Turns out he’s taken 18 more and has only made 1 of them (4/24/23 Game 4 of the 1st round of the playoffs against the Grizzlies he made a Layup for his 18th point of the night to send the Lakers to OT in a 117-113 W to go up 3-1) That is apparently the only “clutch” shot Lebron has made since this video released.
@craven4bmore709
@craven4bmore709 3 ай бұрын
Wooooow!
@newempirenetworks4912
@newempirenetworks4912 Жыл бұрын
This video was amazing. Gave me chills, at the end I even teared up a little. Great Job!!!!🎉🎉🎉
@klolo73
@klolo73 3 жыл бұрын
I gotta admit, I thought it was close, not after watching this, I'm sold, MJ is the GOAT.
@ethanschmidt1052
@ethanschmidt1052 3 жыл бұрын
this guy is biased
@bossbaby69
@bossbaby69 3 жыл бұрын
@@ethanschmidt1052 not really. All of his points were facts using numbers and stats for context. He made a great argument for both players
@Rgnotown
@Rgnotown 3 жыл бұрын
@@ethanschmidt1052 facts are facts
@flexinja1166
@flexinja1166 3 жыл бұрын
@@ethanschmidt1052 Blind Bronsexual spotted.
@philx1169
@philx1169 3 жыл бұрын
@@ethanschmidt1052 facts are facts bruh
@AndyC1
@AndyC1 2 жыл бұрын
MJ playing all 82 games 9 times in his career is the most underrated aspect of his Goat resume. Lebron one time.
@shawnkincheloesr5192
@shawnkincheloesr5192 2 жыл бұрын
Wow ! Do you know that I never ever knew that about him Andy C & truly I am not even a fan of MJ but how can anybody in my generation even say that they have seen a player who is better than MJ 😳 I just don’t get it 🤷🏾‍♂️
@peterlebedev4229
@peterlebedev4229 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but Lebron played more seasons and games
@AndyC1
@AndyC1 2 жыл бұрын
@@shawnkincheloesr5192 I don't get it either..
@shawnkincheloesr5192
@shawnkincheloesr5192 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterlebedev4229 yeah & Maybe Lebron James did play more seasons and more games Peter, but 82 games 9 years 😳 look at those numbers 😳 are you kidding me ? Geeeeeeeeshhhhhh that is a whole whole whole lot of work & he once told somebody in an interview that he didn’t want to be viewed as just a scorer & did he not back that up. & let’s try to imagine if he didn’t break his leg early in his career or his Father did not tragically die. 😳 Michael Jordan single handily took Basketball to a whole different level. Basketball is my favorite sport & I use to play the game and I can’t sit here and imagine what it takes to reach that plateau as a basketball player and guess what ? Neither can Lebron. Any true fan of basketball understands what I am saying here. I won’t sit here and say that Lebron James is not a good player and he is well above average as a player, but GOAT Status ? Nawwwwwww I ain’t willing to say that and this younger generation keeps saying that Lebron is better or those who just flat out hate on MJ for whatever reasons.
@jarronudy5936
@jarronudy5936 2 жыл бұрын
John Stockton must be the goat then since he did that 16 times
@Mwchael
@Mwchael 10 ай бұрын
bro dropped a masterpiece then dipped
@Exia09
@Exia09 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the most comprehensive videos I've ever seen on the Goat debate. I think one thing we can add to the eye test element is also how, just like at the end of the video, you see some of MJs circus shots, the outrageousness, the sheer poetry and elegance with which he plays. He's an artist and a killer rolled into one. Lebron's highlights are impressive too but they just don't have that wow factor that takes your breath away no matter how many times you watch it. As for the longevity factor, it should be more about peak. Whose peak was higher.. Jordan accomplished more in a shorter period. If longevity is about who sustained his peak, then Lebron by right should have 10 championships. The fact he lasted at a high level longer than Jordan but probably only scratched the surface of MJs peak... That simply means MJ's peak was brighter higher stronger. That alone tells u something. There is just no comparison. But here in this day and age people want their new basketball God and the most convenient guy and the guy who's always selling himself with his army of Nick Wrights and Shannon Sharpes... is that guy. And if you don't think Bron's the Goat, if you think he's number 2 behind MJ, wch is still high compliment but to his legions of rabid fans is unacceptable, then you're a hater. 💁🏻‍♂️
@seymourbutts5277
@seymourbutts5277 7 ай бұрын
Adding to the Eye Test, try watching Lebron play today. Don't follow the ball, just watch him. It's astonishing how bad he is and the media still tries to tell you how amazing he is
@OmariMaldini
@OmariMaldini 3 жыл бұрын
GOAT was invented to describe MJ, nothing has changed.
@HD-mm1iz
@HD-mm1iz 3 жыл бұрын
Ummm...that's incorrect. Muhammad Ali coined the phrase "Greatest of All Time" before Jordan was even thinking about playing basketball.
@go_sensei3370
@go_sensei3370 3 жыл бұрын
@@HD-mm1iz right
@bobtv9652
@bobtv9652 3 жыл бұрын
@@HD-mm1iz in the context of basketball not in boxing
@brucescott4261
@brucescott4261 3 жыл бұрын
@@HD-mm1iz ....THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
@brucescott4261
@brucescott4261 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobtv9652 ...False!
@aidancollins3571
@aidancollins3571 4 жыл бұрын
Can we also acknowledge how MJ never lost three straight games from 1990 to 1998🤯
@tartuffethesprywonderdog5883
@tartuffethesprywonderdog5883 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, that's quite stat?
@SJO897
@SJO897 4 жыл бұрын
He had the best team in the league.....
@jonasbandoy
@jonasbandoy 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGWsqmWbqZ6pZqc
@mrpatman1163
@mrpatman1163 4 жыл бұрын
Brandon Jbs he was coming back after 2 years away compared to Lebron losing as heavy favorites to the Mavs in his prime while being outplayed by Jason Terry
@oldsnake8563
@oldsnake8563 4 жыл бұрын
@@SJO897 this is basketball 5 v 5 , lebron had bosh and wade to make it simple, heats have 3 all stars but only 2/4 in finals
@brianmccreedy9825
@brianmccreedy9825 2 ай бұрын
"He's bigger, he's stronger, he's faster, he's more durable" Really? More durable? How many seasons did LeFlop play all 82 games?
@bdr113080
@bdr113080 7 ай бұрын
1. MJ 2. Kobe 3. Kareem 4. Magic 5. Timmy 6. Bird 7. Steph 8. Lebron 9. Shaq 10. Wilt
@bobbyd1632
@bobbyd1632 6 ай бұрын
Bill?
@jaygill9394
@jaygill9394 3 жыл бұрын
Idk about Americans but i can tell u that foreigners know basketball because of MICHAEL JORDAN.❤️🙏🏻
@lakeshownation7964
@lakeshownation7964 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an American, but I love Basketball and Football too (soccer) because of Messi.❤
@adibakaifa4024
@adibakaifa4024 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that's right
@asmrbully6980
@asmrbully6980 3 жыл бұрын
yee
@danielc1291
@danielc1291 3 жыл бұрын
@@lakeshownation7964 A man of culture, I see. MJ + Messi = GOATS 🐐
@o1h823
@o1h823 3 жыл бұрын
Yes even my parents don't speak English but they know Michael jordan
@MikeOnTheInterwebs
@MikeOnTheInterwebs 3 жыл бұрын
You missed a key category: the “Space Jam” category. Jordan gets the check mark again.
@emiliomartinez8301
@emiliomartinez8301 3 жыл бұрын
Le cramp is getting a Space jam movie 😔 but MJ’s Space Jan will be way better
@richardkiereama7072
@richardkiereama7072 3 жыл бұрын
@@yaboykronos9912 you dumbass it's meant too be a joke
@bryanrsingh3359
@bryanrsingh3359 3 жыл бұрын
He is the American dream. Don't hate! 😁🙏💯
@bricefleckenstein9666
@bricefleckenstein9666 3 жыл бұрын
Lebron is in Space Jam 2, so they both do get that mark.
@vincemeyers2064
@vincemeyers2064 3 жыл бұрын
@@bricefleckenstein9666 Yeah he wears 23 and wants to redo everything MJ did. He wants to be the next somebody not first
@cadleo
@cadleo 11 ай бұрын
Criteria 6: Sportsmanship. If a player ever intentionally fakes an injury, foul or play in order to elicit a bad call by a ref, then he is disqualified from any consideration for greatest of anything. Sportsmanship is required of all sportsmen.
@ericmathis3746
@ericmathis3746 10 ай бұрын
Accolades says it all: *Jordan 6 Titles *Lebron 4 Titles *Jordan 6 Finals MVP *Lebron 4 Finals MVP *Jordan 1 defensive player of the year *Lebron 0 defensive player of the year *Jordan 9 times All-defense teams *Lebron 5 times All-defense teams *Jordan 10 scoring titles *Lebron 1 scoring title *Jordan's career PPG: 30.1 *Lebron's career PPG: 27.1 *Jordan 9 career Buzzer beaters *Lebron 8 career Buzzer beaters One huge point to make that settles this goat debate: it only took Jordan 13 seasons with the Bulls to earn all these accolades!! Lebron is going into his 21st season! If you compare Lebron's first 13 seasons to Michaels.. the accolades gap is SIGNIFICANTLY bigger!
@dusankadrakulic9802
@dusankadrakulic9802 10 ай бұрын
Yes and Jordan avarge more pts steals and blocks per game and he avarge more rebounds for his position.MJ have best PER in history 27.9 player efficiency rating
@NewPatek_
@NewPatek_ 10 ай бұрын
Yes because Lebron straight out of high school is going to average 90 points 58 rebounds and 27 assists. Sit yourself down man.
@NamTran-xc2ip
@NamTran-xc2ip 4 ай бұрын
Not disagreeing but the buzzer beater stats is kinda useless.
@bandolin1216
@bandolin1216 Жыл бұрын
To me it comes down to just one thing. If I could only go to one NBA game in my entire life, who would I want to see. Hands down MJ.
@TheeFitnessEnthusiast
@TheeFitnessEnthusiast Жыл бұрын
Fuck that. I'm going with Lebron. He's one of the greatest play makers ever. Plus, he has more game-winners than Jordan (regular season and playoffs).
@zinjgreen3398
@zinjgreen3398 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheeFitnessEnthusiast lol he had 10 Finals appearances and not a game winning shot? He also missed a lot of game winning shot😂
@kenith287
@kenith287 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheeFitnessEnthusiast aesthetically, MJ hand down. Lebron would look pretty if he played line back in the NFL. Not basketball!! He looks awkward and train wreckish. Yaa at the end of the day its putting the biscuit in the basket....but ITS HOW YOU DO IT. And we all know MJ does it the prettiest. I cringe when Lebron tries to make a slick basketball move.
@MikeHawk-yg3gk
@MikeHawk-yg3gk Жыл бұрын
For me neither, it's Bird or Hakeem
@joshuabrooks4435
@joshuabrooks4435 Жыл бұрын
One game….Allen Iverson or Kobe. Season Tickets including playoffs and Finals…….bruh it’s Air Jordan errry day
@owenl2129
@owenl2129 2 жыл бұрын
Coming back from a 3-1 lead is impressive, what’s more impressive is not letting a 3-1 lead even happen lol
@paperchaser-lv9sz
@paperchaser-lv9sz 2 жыл бұрын
Ain’t it 🤣😂🤣
@bigsassyster
@bigsassyster 2 жыл бұрын
You are thinking of golf or billiards
@Birkinbacon
@Birkinbacon 2 жыл бұрын
You sound like a warriors fan
@lukelucky1311
@lukelucky1311 2 жыл бұрын
Bogut injury flipped as series
@HypocritesExposd
@HypocritesExposd 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukelucky1311 this is false. LeBron used dirty disrespectful tactics to bait Draymond into getting suspended for game 6 and whined about it post game. Bogut got more minutes as a result and got hurt in game 6. What turned the tide was getting baiting draymond into the flagrant and then suspended. Cavs deserve respect though for winning game 7 in the final few scoreless minutes.
@jaybdad2299
@jaybdad2299 6 ай бұрын
Im sure that lebron fans will hate to watch this video😂
@yellow6100
@yellow6100 4 жыл бұрын
FACT: as soon as Lebron stops playing this debate will be forgoten and it will always be MJ vs the next "new guy".
@s41k02
@s41k02 4 жыл бұрын
Adnan Ashtar yea ima MJ fan but if lebron is going to be forgotten he’d have to fail after his first 5 seasons. Lebron is gonna be like Kobe, closest to MJ but not exact. I mean if he wins 2 rings yes but I doubt it because the warriors,bucks,raptors,nuggets, mavs and nets
@adnan8837
@adnan8837 4 жыл бұрын
@@s41k02 I can see LeBron possibly winning 1-2 more rings with the Lakers and he'll probably be #1 in points scored by the time his career is over. Jordan is the Goat, but LeBron will be remembered as the best player if the 2010s (and maybe early 2020s) like Magic/Bird in the 80s, Jordan in the 90s, and Kobe/Duncan in the 2000s.
@roblox_periotroblox6625
@roblox_periotroblox6625 4 жыл бұрын
100 TRUTH!!!!!!!
@roblox_periotroblox6625
@roblox_periotroblox6625 4 жыл бұрын
@@adnan8837 NOT
@adnan8837
@adnan8837 4 жыл бұрын
@@roblox_periotroblox6625 Not what exactly?
@daringhumor5935
@daringhumor5935 3 жыл бұрын
Who’s better? Like: Jordan Comment: LeBron
@RussellKobelsky
@RussellKobelsky 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever option has likes is obviously gonna win lmao
@silentgaming2305
@silentgaming2305 3 жыл бұрын
LeGoat
@badasslevizoro3799
@badasslevizoro3799 3 жыл бұрын
Equal
@aljohnavilessaliling3403
@aljohnavilessaliling3403 3 жыл бұрын
😎
@cp12298
@cp12298 3 жыл бұрын
Ofcourse man MJ
@frmrchristian8488
@frmrchristian8488 6 ай бұрын
Superb video! Thank you for laying out all of those data. It was also very well written and edited.
@jakeritchie8524
@jakeritchie8524 7 ай бұрын
11.16.23. Was anyone else led here from the Spaceforce Ingersol Lockwood site?
@raoul3133322
@raoul3133322 7 ай бұрын
yes , Q
@kiaghods5730
@kiaghods5730 4 жыл бұрын
LeBron has been my favorite NBA player for as long as I can remember, but I can’t disagree with facts. MJ is the GOAT. He is the ultimate winner.
@acejojo
@acejojo 4 жыл бұрын
Respect ✊🏾
@bossbaby69
@bossbaby69 4 жыл бұрын
Haris Wilkinson Bill Russell won the most*. That doesn’t necessarily mean he’s the “ultimate winner” considering there were less teams, less playoff games, and less talent during his era.
@Uptop4300
@Uptop4300 4 жыл бұрын
Kia Ghods couldn’t get out of the first round without pippen
@justinpelkey6722
@justinpelkey6722 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Uptop4300 Pippen was great. Put Pippen with Barkley, that would have turned the Suns into a consistent Championship contender. Put Jordan with Barkley, that team wouldn't lose a Championship period, that's the difference. Or give a career all-star caliber player another career all-star caliber player, you get a great team. Give a career all-star caliber player Michael Jordan, and you get a dynasty.
@clownnig3414
@clownnig3414 3 жыл бұрын
Swaggykilla without the rebound by bosh. ray allen and kyrie, Lebron would be 1-8 thank them.
@jonathanlangford4291
@jonathanlangford4291 2 жыл бұрын
So stupid to even argue this. MJ won 3 in a row, took off to play baseball for two seasons, came back to win another 3 in a row. One of the greatest stories in all of sports.
@ShadowWizard123
@ShadowWizard123 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if MJ had been able to skip college. An extra 3 or 4 years of peak Jordan, maybe 2 more rings.
@BrotherJudahisreal
@BrotherJudahisreal 2 жыл бұрын
I agree there's really no comparison Michael Jordan is the goat.💯
@rezmak1807
@rezmak1807 2 жыл бұрын
With almost new roster in the next 3-peat
@ajcaponigro726
@ajcaponigro726 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong …. He came back lost to Penny and Shaq the. Won 3 more
@CJ-ui9zo
@CJ-ui9zo 2 жыл бұрын
So stupid to think championships determine who’s better bill Russell won 8 in a row but lemme guess he faced plumbers? Mj best competition KD alone is better than 98% of them people gotten more skilled overtime? Bron better
@ask230
@ask230 5 ай бұрын
This is not really a question... If MJ played as many minutes as Lebron, not only would this not be a question, the entire discussion would be a joke.
@bobbyd1632
@bobbyd1632 5 ай бұрын
It's already a joke if you're paying attention right now
@ppool22
@ppool22 11 ай бұрын
You have to do more videos. This is the best I’ve seen. Appreciate you putting in the work for this!
@tor9273
@tor9273 2 жыл бұрын
Here’s the thing, Jordan, after winning three titles with the Bulls, took a two-year break, then came back to a completely new weak Bulls team with only Scottie Pippen as a veteran from the old days. In the matter of a single season he turned that group of strangers into a championship team. Three years running. Let me know who else in basketball history did something like that through force of will alone.
@vickramsingh5814
@vickramsingh5814 2 жыл бұрын
they picked up rodman and steve kerr in those last 3 years
@aconfusedshoe6240
@aconfusedshoe6240 2 жыл бұрын
@@vickramsingh5814 And both of them had problems in their career at the time
@QuestionEverything562
@QuestionEverything562 2 жыл бұрын
@@vickramsingh5814 Steve Kerr was just a journey man backup PG before the Bulls, and Rodman was nearly out of the league before the Bulls because of his antics with the Spurs. Rodman brought rebounding and defense, Steve brought shooting. They were not as impactful without a superstar like MJ leading them.
@friscokid21
@friscokid21 2 жыл бұрын
He turned that team into a championship team in less than a full season. He came out of retirement and rejoined the Bulls after they already had played 50+ games.. Amazingly, he dragged that .500 Bulls team to the playoffs but they ended up losing to the Magic i think. Its completely understandable if you take into consideration that Jordan was not in basketball shape as he had been playing baseball for the previous year and a half.
@Runforestrun
@Runforestrun 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, the amazing Steve Kerr...who had a career average of 6 points a game. Rodman was a great pick up, but was also seen as a huge risk. Because at that time Rodman was damn near impossible to coach and was a major distraction. Rodman was almost out of the league because no one wanted to deal with his nonsense anymore. Not to mention he wasn't exactly in his prime when he joined Chicago either.
@jimmyjones9962
@jimmyjones9962 4 жыл бұрын
The simple fact that lebron has already played more seasons than mj and still hasn't been able to match mj should tell you everything
@eddiejames7900
@eddiejames7900 4 жыл бұрын
He has taken medicore teams to the finals. If he took better equipped teams it'd be different
@jimmyjones9962
@jimmyjones9962 4 жыл бұрын
@@eddiejames7900 name one
@CA-yn4iw
@CA-yn4iw 4 жыл бұрын
Eddie James that’s a what if buddy. You lebron fans really gotta stop using what If scenarios to try to prove lebron is the goat
@abelthegoat2471
@abelthegoat2471 4 жыл бұрын
@@eddiejames7900 Uhhh MJ had 0 all-stars in his team when he first won his chop against Magic and only 1 all-star in his team in his first three-peat. MJ never really had an amazing teammate. But what made the bulls so good was MJ himself. And LBJ's stats are inflated by the facts that there are many more positions per game then there was in MJ's era and LBJ still has a worse per game stats then MJ so that tells you a lot. LBJ always needed at least 2 all-stars to win a chip and MJ needed none. So yea MJ didn't need to have a good team but LBJ definitely does. So MJ is easily the GOAT.
@fourthtunz
@fourthtunz 4 жыл бұрын
@@eddiejames7900 Did you watch the video? It takes into account a lot more than just the team etc...stats and analytics galore! MJ is the goat!
@wheel631
@wheel631 Ай бұрын
Jordan never needed to leave his team to go get more titles - he just made everyone around him that much better .. and he still has more titles. He also didn't need to take 5 steps to get a bucket .. its not even close Jordan is way better than Lebron.
@Zion122
@Zion122 Ай бұрын
You're basing the GOAT off of rings?
@miketoth9948
@miketoth9948 26 күн бұрын
Easy comparison if you ask lifelong Cavs fans over 40 yrs old. Jordon destroyed great Cavs teams in 90s. Lebron kept coming up short with Cavs until 2016. But 1-4 record in the Finals playing for the Cavs was not even close to MJ domination.
@OMGitsStamina
@OMGitsStamina 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows deep down Mj is the GOAT lets be real
@oguzaktas6448
@oguzaktas6448 4 жыл бұрын
Yes agree
@bossbaby69
@bossbaby69 4 жыл бұрын
Fact. It’s really a battle for 2nd at this point
@franzmutuc9272
@franzmutuc9272 4 жыл бұрын
IT'S TOOO PREDICTABLE! MJ IS FAR BETTER THAN LEBRON 😂🤣😂
@profyle766
@profyle766 3 жыл бұрын
@@bossbaby69 Well said Bro!!
@warriorsringszn69
@warriorsringszn69 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll agree with greatest but not best I give Lebron title of best on pure talent and athleticism His ability to play every position and his insane speed for his size and of course strength and jumping ability And his play making ability is why I have him as the best
@ajaymanoj3527
@ajaymanoj3527 3 жыл бұрын
LeBron said he is the best player of all time We people say Jordan is the greatest player of all the time. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥❤️🙏
@suitub5710
@suitub5710 3 жыл бұрын
he said he needs respect though lol, what's respect he refers is he is the GOAT
@andreix6840
@andreix6840 3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@MrDacomkd
@MrDacomkd 3 жыл бұрын
@@suitub5710 you don’t beg for respect, you earn it
@TheSentryVoid
@TheSentryVoid 3 жыл бұрын
It hasn't proven to be the best, because the Chicago shadow will last forever.
@jaleelhansley7474
@jaleelhansley7474 3 жыл бұрын
@Elijah Hunter damn nigga, you not suppose to give out that info.
@peterschwarz6512
@peterschwarz6512 6 ай бұрын
This is truely THE best and objective comparison video on YT!
@Jitsuman
@Jitsuman 7 ай бұрын
Who’s here from the Ingersoll Lockwood rabbit? Lol
@shawnkincheloesr5192
@shawnkincheloesr5192 2 жыл бұрын
I am a die hard Laker fan hands down & Magic Johnson will always be my favorite Laker as well as player, but MJ was the best that I have ever seen to play the game and Kobe was the closest that I have seen to MJ, but the GOAT is certainly Michael Air Jordan, without a doubt ✌🏾
@Htown_babyyyyy
@Htown_babyyyyy 2 жыл бұрын
Woah that’s crazy I thought every Lakers fan had Kobe as their favorite but magic was that dude too
@aronidk9135
@aronidk9135 2 жыл бұрын
Tnb11 it depends what era you became a laker fan. i became a laker fan in 2010 when i first got into basketball so kobe is my favourite iwhile snoop dogg seems to have magic over kobe because he grew up n became a fan in the 80s
@shawnkincheloesr5192
@shawnkincheloesr5192 2 жыл бұрын
@@aronidk9135 Exactly and I am telling my age, lol but I am old school for sure and I became a Laker fan in the late 70’s early 80’s. Hmmmmmm whenever Magic Johnson came to the team, I became a fan. Back when I started watching basketball, the two top teams was Boston or LA, so I decided to roll with LA 👊🏾, yet I will always love & respect what Kobe brought to the game 🙏🏾😞
@felixfeichtner2613
@felixfeichtner2613 2 жыл бұрын
Youre telling me that kobe is nr. 2 ?
@hwthomasjr
@hwthomasjr 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, I could've written this post. I have been a Magic fan since his MSU days, and a Laker fan since Kareem got there. But just like every other person who saw him play, I have never seen anything like Jordan. I died a little when Bulls got the Lakers back when. And here's the thing... Lebron is a Laker, and I'm a Laker, so I'm no hater. Actually have enjoyed and admired his game since the beginning. But Jordan? If you want the biggest, strongest guy who lasted the longest? Lebron. You want to win ? We know who tgat is.
@GiveMEsome7474
@GiveMEsome7474 2 жыл бұрын
Not even close, this was never a debate…MJ is the goat
@Davek7110
@Davek7110 2 жыл бұрын
Look at Wilts stats... way better than Jordans.. 30/23/4 for his career. no one close to that.
@jacksong.5982
@jacksong.5982 2 жыл бұрын
@@Davek7110 that’s one criteria wilt was a beast but MJ is just untouchable
@skyereyeskyean4834
@skyereyeskyean4834 2 жыл бұрын
@@Davek7110 wilts play with janitors lmao
@ricosuave20
@ricosuave20 2 жыл бұрын
@@Davek7110 those days had less teams and more trash players put wilt in the 90s and let's see how he plays
@moizepr
@moizepr 2 жыл бұрын
@@Davek7110 But Jordan's playoff points went up to 33 per game for his career and Wilt's went down considerably to 22 per game for his career. Jordan still the GOAT
@fredericchen8132
@fredericchen8132 6 ай бұрын
LeBron entering the GOAT debate is in itself an insult to Michael Jordan.
@MistahUnknown
@MistahUnknown 6 ай бұрын
@fredericchen8132 Jordan was insulted with the popularity LeBron was getting since before LeBron debuted in the NBA. Jordan takes jabs at LeBron on a regular basis. Jordan's insecure. Watch Jordan come out with another documentary.
@marts01
@marts01 Жыл бұрын
LEADERSHIP isn't mentioned here. Lebron has had the luxury of making team management trade everything they have (including future drafts) to get the teammates he needs to win while he's on that team. This is on every team he has been on, every year, except maybe when he was a rookie. Jordan took the teammates given to him, lead and managed them so that they would produce what he needed of them.
@anthonyisca2074
@anthonyisca2074 Жыл бұрын
I think Jordan is the goat but we can't deny that jordan definitely had his hand in getting arguably one of the best rebounders in history to chicago
@mob8757
@mob8757 10 ай бұрын
Lebum didn’t lead anything He’s traded his whole team instead of making them better While jordan stayed on his team and made the players around him better
@Manlikelimes
@Manlikelimes 8 ай бұрын
That’s not the quality of a goat that’s the quality of a liter
@bowenhammack6155
@bowenhammack6155 6 ай бұрын
@@mob8757 What was Jordan “the goats” playoff record without pippen btw?
@bowenhammack6155
@bowenhammack6155 6 ай бұрын
What was Jordan “the goats” playoff record without pippen btw?
@teufelshunde4
@teufelshunde4 4 жыл бұрын
Pre-Championship MJ was Thanos without Infinity Stones, Post-Championship MJ was Thanos with the stones.
@shivensandwich7702
@shivensandwich7702 4 жыл бұрын
And lebron is loki
@psutter5
@psutter5 4 жыл бұрын
MJ even stole my stones lol
@franzmutuc9272
@franzmutuc9272 4 жыл бұрын
100% AGREE! 👍👍👍
@emilioreyes4159
@emilioreyes4159 3 жыл бұрын
6 stones 6 rings
@keres9580
@keres9580 3 жыл бұрын
Teufels hunde4 true
@andrewstafford2727
@andrewstafford2727 2 жыл бұрын
I saw Jordan play twice. Once as a 40 year old. During the game MJ held the ball in front of him with his arm outstretched inches from his defender. Jumaine Jones could not take the ball from him. JJ would lunge to grab it and MJ would move it a foot in one direction or another. This went on for around 20 seconds. Then Jordan and scored while the Cleveland arena booed its own player and cheered on Michael Jordan for embarrassing him. I don't think I'll ever see anything like this in professional sports again. He's the goat.
@benjaminan1183
@benjaminan1183 2 жыл бұрын
That type of stuff happens all the time in Warriors games.
@marlonpatterson4615
@marlonpatterson4615 2 жыл бұрын
I don't doubt that Jordan was a great player, just think if his regular team was the dream team would he have had to do as much,No.and when you have refs cheating for you you always have y chance.
@TuneFan29354
@TuneFan29354 2 жыл бұрын
So he's the GOAT at Keep Away.... congrats lmao
@marlonpatterson4615
@marlonpatterson4615 2 жыл бұрын
I really don't care, because basketball is the easiest sport to play and the be easiest sport in which to get into the Hall of Fame, but I would always say Kareem is the Goat.
@Tippotipo
@Tippotipo 2 жыл бұрын
@@marlonpatterson4615 You just insulted all NBA legends and professional basketball players as your sentence exposed your complete ignorance. Try playing defence against an opponent or score with physical contacts, you will have a rude awakening by begging to catch a breath.
@richcecere
@richcecere 10 ай бұрын
Also, Jordan seemed to literally stay up in the air longer. That's what I thought the eye test was going to be.
@andrewsmith5512
@andrewsmith5512 Күн бұрын
Jordan is the 🐐 but hangtime is a myth. There have certainly been players who jump higher than MJ. Not many but definitely some.
@robertallenpiehl
@robertallenpiehl 7 ай бұрын
Who came here form Ingersoll Lockwood. 😎
@albufersaludos4250
@albufersaludos4250 3 жыл бұрын
If I think the word "Basketball", Michael Jordan is the first thing what comes to my mind.
@carltheg
@carltheg 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@jasminebolten3290
@jasminebolten3290 3 жыл бұрын
So do I
@cjespanola5574
@cjespanola5574 3 жыл бұрын
Jerry West..that is why he is in the nba logo..
@dbodooley
@dbodooley 3 жыл бұрын
That’s who it should be. Jordan is better than Lebron. These millennials don’t know what Jordan could do.
@carltheg
@carltheg 3 жыл бұрын
@@dbodooley faxxxxxxx
@tsuminoki7778
@tsuminoki7778 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a Lebron fan but you can’t argue with the facts MJ is the goat
@kobebryantthanosstopper5077
@kobebryantthanosstopper5077 4 жыл бұрын
You’re a legend.
@kobebryantthanosstopper5077
@kobebryantthanosstopper5077 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think I have ever respected a Lebron fan more.
@tyleru96
@tyleru96 4 жыл бұрын
respect for being objective. Also, it's not like admitting Jordan is the goat reduces LeBron's greatness. LeBron is going to go down as a top 3 player ever.
@tsuminoki7778
@tsuminoki7778 4 жыл бұрын
Tupdike I think everything rides on how he ends his career might make him top 2
@kobebryantthanosstopper5077
@kobebryantthanosstopper5077 4 жыл бұрын
ADJEI He will definitely finish top 3. He might knock Kobe out of that 3 spot, which for me would be one of the most painful days of my life lol That’s just my opinion tho. Lebron is already the best ever for a lot of people. For some he isn’t top 10 or 15 which is CRAZY. For me he is number 7 all time(right now)
@7rx759
@7rx759 3 ай бұрын
Please come back, we need you rn
@stevelo2057
@stevelo2057 10 ай бұрын
Jordan is the GOAT. He even push his teammates so hard to make his team the best team (most of the stars in Bulls after they join Bulls and winning with Bulls). Being Jordan's teammates wasn't easy, he want you to be better and train so hard everyday. I am not saying Jordan was the only one who make Bulls success, but he was one of them.
@wentzr
@wentzr 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron wears #23 cause he knows who the GOAT really is.
@brandoncosmic6384
@brandoncosmic6384 4 жыл бұрын
Lebrun good tho
@noah_256.
@noah_256. 4 жыл бұрын
Grimlock To Shamrock ofc Lebron is the 2nd greatest but he ain’t jordan
@novo1952
@novo1952 4 жыл бұрын
He grew up watching him...
@novo1952
@novo1952 4 жыл бұрын
@@noah_256. MJ played scrubs lmfao
@willgaskill329
@willgaskill329 4 жыл бұрын
J mooore bruh the greatest players Larry bird manic Kobe Stockton Malone Isaiah and much more. That’s Jordan’s LeBron scurry Durant luka. I cannot think of anyone else
@steppameresteppamere1954
@steppameresteppamere1954 3 жыл бұрын
Michael most underrated accomplishment was how he is the main reason why so many All-Time greats don’t have rings. Ex: Patrick, Barkely, Reggie, Malone
@44anml226
@44anml226 3 жыл бұрын
Gary payton gotta be up there too, imagine being known as the guy who clamped up jordan
@thatfunmaker3484
@thatfunmaker3484 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad he stopped malone from getting a ring
@freddyarkalji4208
@freddyarkalji4208 3 жыл бұрын
Also he managed to not lose 3 times in a row in the 90s which is insane
@gsentinel4821
@gsentinel4821 3 жыл бұрын
I concur.
@theawesome9yearold20
@theawesome9yearold20 3 жыл бұрын
44ron well he got one on the heat I believe
@marijanl3373
@marijanl3373 Ай бұрын
Nah guys,form is temporary and class is eternal,and LeFake just proved he is nothing close to MJ,if anything next basketball superstar that emerges is gonna be compared to MJ all over again and LeTravel will be forgotten in a week he retires
@aerobolt7000
@aerobolt7000 4 күн бұрын
LOL yeah. i find it hilarious how he claims himself as the GOAT. the real GOAT makes the world say it.
@ikey1119
@ikey1119 2 жыл бұрын
This video is a masterpiece. Don’t touch it, don’t edit it. Leave it as is. The fact that this man came in the content game and made one video that has over 3 million views is just so poetic to me. Almost like how Jordan had no flaws. Came in the game and dominated from the moment he touched the hardwood, until he decided to hang ‘em up. The case is closed. No second chances. No Game 7s. You got it done in one take. It’s so emblematic of Jordan. No fluff. Straight Greatness. Respect Bruh. My Goat is Kobe. But that’s MY GOAT, Jordan isn’t even in the Goat debate for me. He transcended it. Jordan is a Cultural Icon. Lebron is just a basketball player in my eyes. 2 different planets.
@thetruth14444
@thetruth14444 2 жыл бұрын
JORDAN LOSS 6 PLAYOFF RUNS PRIOR
@thetruth14444
@thetruth14444 2 жыл бұрын
FLAWLESS MY A22
@ikey1119
@ikey1119 2 жыл бұрын
@@thetruth14444 Jordan came in the game and dominated from jump, where were his flaws? Jordan won and started his reign. You’re triggered.
@thetruth14444
@thetruth14444 2 жыл бұрын
@@ikey1119 HE MISSED THE PLAYOFFS SEVERAL TIMES
@ikey1119
@ikey1119 2 жыл бұрын
@@thetruth14444 I’m aware. What’s your point? 😂
@disco4255
@disco4255 3 жыл бұрын
It feels like LeBron has been playing to be the greatest of all time while Jordan played to win if that makes sense. LeBron wants to win because it helps his case for greatness. While it felt like Jordan wanted to win just because he wanted to win. Two totally different mindsets and it shows like LeBron bouncing to different teams to raise his chances while Jordan retired early because he won 3 in a row and lost the motivation. Jordan wasn't chasing Kareem,magic or Russel he was just chasing himself
@rinickulousgaming8599
@rinickulousgaming8599 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone with a logic and a brain. This is the most accurate way to distinguish both. In his early career and reaching his first Conference finals, all Jordan wanted was to be up there with the best of his time like Larry and Magic. I would always argue that his desire to win is unparalleled. To retire in your prime and almost reach MLB for about 18 months just shows his mentality. What I like the most is MJ stayed loyal and he was pivotal in building a dynasty. He started with a bottom feeder team and because of him, they build this legacy.
@joesanthosh5315
@joesanthosh5315 3 жыл бұрын
@@rinickulousgaming8599 exactly and people who say rings don't matter are just clowns. If rings didn't matter, then LeBron would never make "The Decision", LeBron wouldn't have said after 2020 WCF "Job's not done", MJ even said he couldn't be in the same breath or class as Larry Bird and Magic Johnson until he won that title in 1991
@jonathanogundeji4342
@jonathanogundeji4342 3 жыл бұрын
Makes complete sense. Jordan has said that if he wanted Kareems scoring title he would have chased it until he got it
@cedricsandiford3710
@cedricsandiford3710 3 жыл бұрын
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@monicalora5779
@monicalora5779 3 жыл бұрын
Wtf lebron is in his 17th season hes old now this isn't his prime hes going to be the first person to have 40k points and mh played 1000 more minutes than lebron
@richiegiese2410
@richiegiese2410 7 ай бұрын
🐇
@MiscellaneousYou
@MiscellaneousYou 7 ай бұрын
🐂
@fovosthanatos1761
@fovosthanatos1761 7 ай бұрын
Tick tock
@cerebralfanatic
@cerebralfanatic 10 ай бұрын
Dude dropped a classic & retired
@sarafaghihi1854
@sarafaghihi1854 3 жыл бұрын
Michael Jordan is still the greatest of all time.
@misinglink15
@misinglink15 3 жыл бұрын
Jordan had the most amazing teammates like Pippen/Rodman with Jackson as his coach. Now what elite coach did Lebron EVER have? Could you put Jordan on any team in the league at the time and get close to the same results? Could Michael Jordan bring out the best in Cleveland? Nope, not ever.
@thebadstation8416
@thebadstation8416 3 жыл бұрын
@@misinglink15 I'm re reading her comment and I'm still trying to find where she asked
@jettsklar5888
@jettsklar5888 3 жыл бұрын
@@misinglink15 why are people trying to make it sound like Lebron never had any good teammates lol. Chris Bosh is a hall of famer. Dwyane Wade is arguably the 3rd best SG ever. Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love are perennial all stars and Irving might make hall of fame. And Anthony Davis is top 5 player in the league and probably a future HOF. All scrubs apparently
@Jeppemw
@Jeppemw 3 жыл бұрын
misinglink15 ur stupid Lol u most dont know who bron have played whit over time.. honest dummest comment 👍🏼
@thomasdidymus1393
@thomasdidymus1393 3 жыл бұрын
Sara | 100% MJ = 🐐
@alexisvincecruz5340
@alexisvincecruz5340 4 жыл бұрын
When a guy wins 3 peat.. Retires and play as a pro-baseball for 18 months... And returns and wins another 3 peat... That is the real GOAT.
@RonniesWrld-
@RonniesWrld- 4 жыл бұрын
He returned and then lost to the magic in 95... nice try tho buddy :/
@ThesGt
@ThesGt 4 жыл бұрын
@@RonniesWrld- he returned half the season, without trianing for 18months, losing to magic in 95 was not Jordan's prime, he and the bulls became the best team in the history of NBA 72-10 now
@dinak4741
@dinak4741 4 жыл бұрын
"pro baseball"
@datmadapuka441
@datmadapuka441 4 жыл бұрын
@@RonniesWrld- where was he wrong
@roberthamilton6986
@roberthamilton6986 4 жыл бұрын
@@RonniesWrld- nice troll fail
@followerofChrist28
@followerofChrist28 7 ай бұрын
who's here from the Ingersoll website?
@jiyongjung8495
@jiyongjung8495 10 ай бұрын
Well made. Thank you for the content.
@jefftorres9334
@jefftorres9334 Ай бұрын
That's an incredible GOAT debate! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@northhopper6365
@northhopper6365 2 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t alive when MJ played, but he was in the better space jam movie and that makes him the GOAT
@kendrickking6330
@kendrickking6330 2 жыл бұрын
🤣😅😅
@drivewithsmitty5097
@drivewithsmitty5097 2 жыл бұрын
Real Talk 🤣🤣
@rivolverocelot3010
@rivolverocelot3010 2 жыл бұрын
All facts
@ukog6048
@ukog6048 2 жыл бұрын
Both of the space Jam doesn't make no sense what are you saying?
@m.divinepi1402
@m.divinepi1402 2 жыл бұрын
@@ukog6048 he's joking bro
@slayerde440
@slayerde440 3 жыл бұрын
Jordan is the greatest of all time. He didnt leave the team that drafted him to join a stacked team. He hustled and made everyone else better and demanded excellence from everyone else as well as himself. Thats why he's so much better than the King of excuses.
@slayerde440
@slayerde440 3 жыл бұрын
@Kenneth Erickson yep
@slayerde440
@slayerde440 3 жыл бұрын
@SSJ3MJ 😂😂
@marioortega7444
@marioortega7444 3 жыл бұрын
Remember when J. R. Blew the chance to win the game vs. Golden state? You can read Lebron's mind going "There is my scape goat, now we can lose and nobody can blame me". He quit right there, series over. That's to quote that kid that turned around and called the "game over" moment,
@slayerde440
@slayerde440 3 жыл бұрын
@@marioortega7444 they still had a chance to win in OT and LeBron decided to pout and cry instead.
@alexandrezas7057
@alexandrezas7057 3 жыл бұрын
Jordan without the Bulls would not be so successful, since the Chicago squad was much above average for the time ... First to start with the bank, where Kukok in 1996 won the sixth league man award, Lebron never had one privilege on your team. Another positive aspect was that Horace Grant was an excellent bouncer, soon afterwards Roodman, simply one of the greatest bouncers in history, again Lebron never had such a privilege on his team. Finally, Jordan had one of the greatest technicians in history (Phil Jackson), and once again, Lebron never had the privilege of acting alongside a technician of this size. In short, Lebron James is the best player in NBA history, precisely because he managed to win the league with a coach called Tyroon Lue and players like Mozgov, Dellavedova, Shumpert and Mo Williams, then I ask you !!!! There is but won because the other side the team was weak !!! And the answer is no !!!! It was one of the greatest teams in the history of the league, which came from a record of only 9 losses in the season, the Warriors. Mano Lebron is the G.O.A.T
@corydukes1127
@corydukes1127 10 ай бұрын
Hell of a video for your first video!
@jtbmag7720
@jtbmag7720 9 ай бұрын
The producer of this video is the baby goat...are you kidding me? Great sound, great video, and SPOT ON narration of a perfect argument. Over and over and over...X2 was EPIC.
@VXception
@VXception 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I’ve ever felt sorry for the hardcore LeBron fans, this man crushed all their hopes and dreams💀
@diamelc.ampatua5345
@diamelc.ampatua5345 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. You got it right bro...
@hhshsksks9593
@hhshsksks9593 3 жыл бұрын
@Tristan Agyei first time i saw a lebron fan switch to mj thats insane
@xalaxyplayz6901
@xalaxyplayz6901 3 жыл бұрын
FAX JUST FAX
@juneborongan7431
@juneborongan7431 3 жыл бұрын
@@mazinkadiri3706 mjs 1st round exit during the first 3 year againts 60+ win team and arguably the greatest celtics team ever. VS lebron who didnt reach the playoffs innhis first 2 years with an ALLSTAR.
@persieclines1746
@persieclines1746 3 жыл бұрын
@@juneborongan7431 Mj first 3 playoff runs he won 1 game.
@juannpiola8755
@juannpiola8755 4 жыл бұрын
"If the aliens come down, there is one game to save humanity. Who is your best pick in basketball history to save the world?" Dude, there is a movie about that. The answer is obviously Bill Murray.
@uptownmannie15
@uptownmannie15 4 жыл бұрын
😭😭
@javi.f.8269
@javi.f.8269 4 жыл бұрын
hahahaha
@JumboWiniata
@JumboWiniata 4 жыл бұрын
Love it
@DerkuiDerkui
@DerkuiDerkui 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Dan Arkroyd was in this movie
@iamtheoysterking
@iamtheoysterking 4 жыл бұрын
“I didn’t know Dan Akroyd was in this picture!”
@gregthewes
@gregthewes 3 ай бұрын
Sorry, Bron fans. 2011 Finals disqualifies him from the conversation. Definitely the most physically gifted but he had Wade and Bosh and lost to Dallas. No way Jordan, Kobe, Magic let Dirk and Jason Terry outscore them. Bron folded like a tent. Disappeared. Cost his team the championship.
@user-hf6vy8xc4i
@user-hf6vy8xc4i 29 күн бұрын
That was your first video?! Damn! 👏 As for the GOAT debate, there isn’t one. I just wish I watched as much basketball as I do now when MJ was playing, as a Mavs fan I’m glad I got to watch prime Dirk and currently getting to watch the incredible talents of Kyrie and Luka but feel I missed out big time not getting to watch MJ live
@doncapila7246
@doncapila7246 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that you created a channel and produced just one video to silence the non-believers makes you the GOAT! Thank you for this!
@jamesmorris4258
@jamesmorris4258 3 жыл бұрын
Lebron will never be Jordan, no matter how many Space Jam sequels he makes.
@romelc
@romelc 3 жыл бұрын
He wont be jordan, hes LeBron lol😂
@ChristyanReis
@ChristyanReis 3 жыл бұрын
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk lol
@Lilhajxjk274
@Lilhajxjk274 2 жыл бұрын
Keep crying
@jamesmorris4258
@jamesmorris4258 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lilhajxjk274 keep trying.
@Lilhajxjk274
@Lilhajxjk274 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmorris4258 keep crying about another player
@MrBedZeppelin
@MrBedZeppelin 6 ай бұрын
Great Job! As a Chicagoan I appreciate the memories from this incredible ERA, of basketball.
@Js-hf7oz
@Js-hf7oz 9 ай бұрын
This is the greatest video I have seen about the goat debate. Thank you!
@treyjay9560
@treyjay9560 3 жыл бұрын
What LeBron faced in the Finals in '17 and '18 is what Michael had to face in the first round '86 and '87.
@alguapo246
@alguapo246 3 жыл бұрын
Jordan went against some of the best players is the 90’s too, you sleep
@truecrimelegacy
@truecrimelegacy 3 жыл бұрын
FOH
@allanhouston6759
@allanhouston6759 3 жыл бұрын
*Against 60-win teams in the Playoffs: JORDAN ( 7-2 ), Lebron James ( 3-4 ).* *Against 50-win teams in the Playoffs: JORDAN ( 20-7 ), Lebron James ( 19-11 ).* Lebron James feasted in the weak East ( 2003/2018 ). Let"s not forget that Joakim Noah was the last first team All-Nba Player ( 2014 ) besides Lebron James before Giannis ( 2019 ). Lebron James barely beat Rookie Jason Tatum ( age 19 ).
@alguapo246
@alguapo246 3 жыл бұрын
@@allanhouston6759 facts
@mrsouthpaw1387
@mrsouthpaw1387 3 жыл бұрын
This is just simply not true at all
@michaelduran1525
@michaelduran1525 2 жыл бұрын
This not only proved Jordon was the GOAT This really exposed LeBron alot😂
@WhyVexyy
@WhyVexyy 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@saltyseal9041
@saltyseal9041 2 жыл бұрын
Right?!? Like how can you even be in the GOAT debate if your sub 40% from the field outside of 3 feet of the basket 😭😂 and 20% from the clutch??! Can you imagine how many times this was ignored in favor of Lebron’s pride only to throw the game 😭😭😭
@marcelelliott7554
@marcelelliott7554 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it did 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I was like damn stop your killing me liking LeBron as a player. Even though I been a M.J fan from day one.
@eugeneangwa4466
@eugeneangwa4466 2 жыл бұрын
100%👏👏
@dynamic6645
@dynamic6645 2 жыл бұрын
@@saltyseal9041 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXaYhZ5_ZtJgY6c
@jamesscott8705
@jamesscott8705 6 күн бұрын
This isn't a conversation or a debate. The better debate is who's #2. Kobe, LeBron, Bird, Magic, Hakeem, Kareem, Bill Russell, Wilt, Duncan, Curry? This list could go on. The second best player ever is a better conversation to have.
@FelipeSantos-wu1uf
@FelipeSantos-wu1uf 9 ай бұрын
This is the definitive video, insane job.
@willmartinez618
@willmartinez618 3 жыл бұрын
Lebron is getting annoying saying he’s the goat .Its like he’s desperate for the goat “title” . Jordan never had to say it just showed it .
@bdawg610
@bdawg610 3 жыл бұрын
You are way to ignorant if you think he’s never said he’s the “goat”
@peterstern5266
@peterstern5266 3 жыл бұрын
He's NOT getting annoying...LeBron IS ANNOYING personified!!! and has been for years. He is even MORE annoying when he has to speak about politics and his anti-Trump insanity rants. Shut TF up and play basketball. We don't tell you how to play, so don't tell us how to vote!!!
@lunathisimes5997
@lunathisimes5997 3 жыл бұрын
Haha that's cap he called himself a goat like everytime bro
@sassyb8360
@sassyb8360 3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY Will!! Thank You!!
@RalphAdrianePDilao
@RalphAdrianePDilao 3 жыл бұрын
@@bdawg610 when did MJ say he is the Goat? He talks trash and is cocky but can back it up, he is very competitive and would do anything but I have never heard him say he is the GOAT but he says he is better than someone that is being specifically mentioned
@twowheelseatingmeals-motoj8080
@twowheelseatingmeals-motoj8080 4 жыл бұрын
They don't understand and will never understand... In the words of Stephan A Smith "This shouldn't even be a discussion"
@Jiraiya55
@Jiraiya55 2 ай бұрын
Insane video good job
@beatsbaby3284
@beatsbaby3284 11 ай бұрын
It’s not close, I just watch MJs highlights and made me remember how great he was!!!!
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