Basquiat: David Bowie and Julian Schnabel interview (1996)

Director Julian Schnabel describes the challenges of making "Basquiat," a biography of contemporary artist Jean-Michel Basquiat, joined by David Bowie who plays Andy Warhol in the film.
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[@bernios3446]

David Bowie had one of the most fascinating voice of all men I have heard: intelligent, sensitive, gentle, simple and un-arrogant.

[@seanseams6308]

Bernhard Ess I agree

[@ethank5681]

Bernhard Ess and high as a kite

[@bobouzala]

meh

[@bernios3446]

@@ethank5681 "and high as a kite" - in many interview yes, but here? I don't think so.

[@bernios3446]

@NoMi Now Well, I had forgotten about him: I just checked him singing and speaking here on KZbin, sorry, while he obviously had a classic training, I find the timbre of his voice quite generic, nothing special at all. Bowie is easy to pick out amongst thousands of voices. Klaus Nomi also seemed quite shy whereas Bowie had a very fascinating entertaining yet noble character.

[@dolemite72]

Damn, I miss intelligent discussion on television. At least we have YT.

[@NaturalElicia]

Terrance Knox co-sign!

[@TONYSESLCAFE]

Terrance Knox Where is the Art my brother, banksy,,, a vaccine killer . This brother painted. Anybody who actually paints I can respect. Painting a stencil on a wall, pretending they care about politics and religion. I hate going for the money. Show me your god dam art...

[@victoriabaker4400]

@@TONYSESLCAFE Art comes in many forms. I don't think it is necessary to diss Banksy in order to honor Basquiat, who I'm sure would have admired Banksy's work. Basquiat cared deeply about social issues and that passion is all over his work. But I will never forget coming down off the freeway in New Orleans in early 2007 to see a Banksy work against abandoned and destroyed buildings in a neighborhood that was suffering after Katrina but which had long had troubles, a work that offered both hope and honored the pain. The work was meaningful and placed in a meaningful location-- and I think until you've seen Banksy's work in situ, it's impact may not be as apparent. The many Banksy works in that time of New Orleans helped us survive.

[@diaporto]

Same here ❤

[@CuriousMind1011]

David Bowie here is the genuine artist with true insight and deep perception, just to hear him speak fills you with ease and optimism, may God rest his soul. At the same time, credit must be given to Schnabel for this highly artistic film.

[@arte2arquiteto]

This interview deserved at least another hour or two.

[@dmoney668]

What a BRILLIANT performance by Bowie and Jeffrey Wright (who is incredibly underrated)

[@Kanarie1973]

Bowie wrote a song about Warhol, titled Andy Warhol, ha 25 years before his role in Basquiat. Bowie was a fan, a huge fan. He tried to meet Andy as early as 1971, but Warhol only said: I like your shoes, David. That was it.

[@stevepafford5501]

Yeah, Bowie was too self conscious, but that was the only way he could try and act. Anyway, I've included the clip in my article @t

[@lauraswearingen-steadwell787]

That’s a lovely song. One of my favorites. Bowie had such an open heart. His compassion was singular, and his unabashed admiration and understanding of other artists absolutely contributed to his brilliance. He encouraged anyone who’d listen to move through the world with love, not judgment. Warhol, on the other hand, could be devastating in his criticism. Sadly, his “mentees” often got the worst of this; it’s no coincidence that so many of them became estranged from him. One or two killed themselves, one shot him (!), and a number became disenchanted after working for him. One might argue that he actually prevented many of them from realizing their full potential. I, for one, am not at all surprised that Warhol kept his distance from Bowie. He was totally outclassed.

[@trust2020media]

In a way that was high praise, as Warhol's first gigs in NYC were as a commercial illustrator of shoes. . .

[@ReneeKnightYogaRani]

Andy Warhol was quite a character!

[@jenniferblake4685]

Andy war hole 😊 my 18 yr old son just introduced me to that song!!! Trust me Bowie is still reinventing himself Incredible. I am of the labyrinth girl generation lol Long live king jarod

[@miriamcjackson706]

David Bowie nailed it! The art world is a medium of commerce and it seeks to protect its own status quo. Basquiat is of the people for the people, his work has this raw exciting power that comes from origin, the ability to truly connect to the source. To tap into the zeitgeist of our times. RIP Basquiat Warhol and Bowie. Bravo to Julian Schnabel for making this movie (and the Butterfly and the Bell Jar ... one of the most impactful movies I’ve ever seen!)

[@stevepafford5501]

Yeah, Bowie was too self conscious, but that was the only way he could try and act. Anyway, I've included the clip in my article @t

[@magnuskallas]

@@stevepafford5501 What's somewhat ironic and sad is that Bowie also tried to express himself through painting, but it didn't really go anywhere. It was an art form he didn't master. Now, ironic part is that after his death some of his oil paintings and drafts (one recently found at a yard sale) are starting to bring in some money at the auctions. Nowhere near Basquait levels, but still.

[@flashflame4952]

David had a mind like a steel trap! So brilliantly intelligent, I can listen to him talk all day long .

[@adonay91]

Never knew how real David Bowie was. This man is dropping gems

[@ReneeKnightYogaRani]

David Bowie’s early life & career was very challenging & they would have had so much of an understanding of one another! Jean Michel was a fan of David’s from a young age.

[@glindathegoodishwitch9244]

One of the things I love about Bowie is his speaking voice. I've never heard a richer, more calming and resonant tone to anyone's voice. With the accent, not to mention his wit, smarts, intelligence and vast knowledge, I could listen to him all day. sigh.....rip David...still and always missed.

[@mgdkns6678]

Glindathegoodishwitch Same here. What a man he was! ❤️

[@Prospect.1]

Oh yes his voice,, its incredible,,his singing ,,he can completely become someone else ,voice and all ,,God I love him ,,always

[@Prospect.1]

WOW this is a side of Bowie his fans didnt see much ,so intelligent,,was there anything he could not do well ,,NO,, LUV DAVID BOWIE❤

[@Prospect.1]

I loved this movie since it came out ,, but this interview really adds alot to it

[@glindathegoodishwitch9244]

@@mgdkns6678 Agreed, Mgd!!

[@artbycreativedesign734]

Jean-Michel Basquiat was one of the most important artists of the 20th Century. One of the functions of the artist is to cause persons to reflect on self... Basquiat did that... even through this interview.

[@tracylf5409]

I MISS DAVID BOWIE! Omg-- these types of people are so freaking rare....I wish I were born later, I'd love to take part.

[@Prospect.1]

I've said that all my life ,,I should have been born earlier in time ,,I belonged somewhere else ,and it was glam rock that opened that door to me. ,I. Will always b greatful for David Bowie and the Jean Michelle's of the world ,,there will only b 1 bowie ,Warhol, Basquiat,,ever

[@Herr2Cents]

David Bowie really made this interview worth watching and I appreciate his perspective on art. This movie opened the door for me to Basquait and inspired much research on him.

[@treasures_pandora]

David Bowie is a real class act!!!

[@jaydubya3698]

Wow...Bowie is an absolute jackknife in this interview when he talks about the art world. Unreal.

[@tracylf5409]

If you look up, "Renaissance man", you'll find the exact description of David Bowie. I cannot imagine his family's sorrow.... :(

[@mswallis9]

I remember someone saying "I'm just sitting her watching the world, it's such a fascinating show". Bowie really seems to have done that. And a mind like his,,,I wonder if we'll ever see the like again!

[@age_of_reason]

Bowie was very intelligent. His comments that art is used as a class divider was controversial and very brave. It's funny how he pokes fun at Julian "...as misunderstood as Julian Schnabel." That was cold but he meant it light-heartedly. I wonder what Julian was thinking having to take these blows. He was really calm through it all.

[@ricomichel]

Possibly one of the most interesting interviews ever - a discussion between two great artistic minds and a great interviewer

[@keriford54]

That was cool, so different from the usual fake attempt to sell a movie this was a genuine discussion.

[@pernordin2641]

Very interesting interview. It is a pleasure to see two passionate and very knowledgable people being interviewed by a very knowledgable and interested journalist, allowing a free yet scouted discussion to go on.

[@JJGerrard1980]

Did they really get through 50 mins without mentioning Jeffrey Wright actually playing Basquiat? That's really a shame.

[@jovankataylor1940]

I taught them exactly and he was a very good actor and still is I partied with him once and treated him to a bottle of champagne he is a very nice person

[@JJGerrard1980]

@@jovankataylor1940 Yea. He gives off that vibe. Became an admirer after seeing this performance and his career has lived up to expectations. Guys great. Makes me wonder if there was some sort of conflict between him and the director/producers. I can see Jeffrey going full method and being hard to deal with. I'm betting this was a difficult role to play emotionally and physically. The performance is top shelf tho.

[@jovankataylor1940]

@@JJGerrard1980 I'm sure that's a big possibility for them not to mention his name and he was the main event is crazy too and it's also called unprofessional in my opinion, is a great shame and he's a good person, I party with Jeffrey in the early 2000s I guess he spoke up on the unfairness so that made he difficult to work with he's got a bow down and a hooray from me

[@Startrek1969B]

Rebel Rebel!!! I miss him more, the more I see, read or listen. Love Bowie.

[@suzietschirsch1257]

Me too.

[@ladymercury7042]

I adore Bowie! He is truly missed!

[@yotrakzproductions7324]

Daaaave! Didn’t know he was so deep and well spoken. Imma have to check more out on him and his insight. Welllll spoken👍

[@tuanjim799]

Funny vibe between Bowie and Schnabel. You can tell just from their body language and the way they speak to, and about, one another that they do not see eye to eye on a great many topics, and probably have butted heads more than once. Reminds me of the way I am with some of my friends who I often end up disagreeing or debating with in a (mostly) lighthearted way.

[@neigesamsara6202]

BOWIE is a great great painter as wel l!!

[@tuanjim799]

Indeed.

[@Chef-Really5365]

Don't ya know the king of dental floss also painted .So does Jagger if I am not mistaken

[@jessica5497]

@@Chef-Really5365 Bowie was trained, he was a painter before he start being a singer

[@jennifs6868]

@@Chef-Really5365 and Pavarotti too!

[@terr777]

Had never heard of JMB when I saw this film in the late '90's. It's brilliant, the acting, the soundtrack, everything. One I can watch over and over.

[@MUFFINHEAD1985]

Terry Which film dude?

[@bogfranklin]

Bowie is so intelligent and thoughtful .....such a great interview

[@bubblezovlove7213]

Bowie is just such an amazing artist. So original and natural that nobody else comes close and I'm, left here referring to him as though he were alive, because he is still alive in a very real way... Try pulling THAT one off....

[@herbertmasing]

Rose and Schnabel were completely on another level from Bowie. Who would have thought a pop star could have such a deep understanding of art.

[@mgdkns6678]

Herbert Masing David Bowie is so much more than a "pop star". He was an intellectual and his art is beyond 99% of the population's grasp. He was a genius, and I don't just say that...

[@josmith8233]

Bowie was a painter in his own right

[@deborahgalvan5367]

if you can watch him in concert from the beginning and see his transformations from one alter ego to another you will see that he's a total artist in thought, mind, body, spirit and soul.

[@heaven7360]

David Bowie was also a painter.

[@starrrfish77]

If you knew Bowie, really knew him, you knew his passion for the Art World. “Pop star” is the furthest from what he was and continues to be.

[@robertwill23]

Wow, it's good to see that David Bowie was so critical about art world and had deep awareness of how rotten art world became (with all money defines value). And he disliked Damian Hirst. the main hack of british contemporary art. And it's painful to watch how Schnabel tries to get a hold of what Bowie talks about. Clearly Bowie has deeper understanding of art.

[@neigesamsara6202]

HIRST?

[@neigesamsara6202]

see MR

[@atlmswbko4394]

Agreed - except about Hirst who was an original, so David did like him.

[@marko0samec]

not nesseseraly - I of course agree 100% with David, but as I know many visual artists - I used to be (and am again now) one myself... at the end of my teenage years I simply stoped painting 'cause I noticed that many many visual artists and myself included, simply can not express our thoughts with words very good! so I started writing, published some books and just around 5 years ago I started to paint again, in my early thirties... I think Julien just can't expres his ideas with words good enough, you can see him gettin' lost in te middle of a sentence, an idea... but like I said.. I agree with Bowie completly!!!

[@tulayamalavenapi4028]

So sad. It has always been like a haunted house that I never wanted to go near. Taking shelter of intoxication is no use to get oneself free from anxieties. It is oblivion. Sometimes, for some time we forget everything, but again when one come to consciousness the same anxieties and the same thing are there. So this will not help us. Lord Śiva drank poison to the extent of swallowing an ocean, but if any common man tries to drink even a fragment of such poison he will be killed. There are many pseudo-devotees of Lord Śiva who want to indulge in smoking gāñjā (marijuana) and similar intoxicating drugs, forgetting that by so imitating the acts of Lord Śiva they are calling death very near.

[@roderickperry4260]

Bowie is very clever in his points very subtle and very honest about his role a lot is revealed in this interview .

[@jblattnernyc]

Thank you so much for posting! I've been looking for this interview for a while

[@sacredsounds4234]

Imagine Andy,john, Vangogh,Bowie,Eddie VH,Morrison, Joplin,Hendrix all sitting around painting and playing music.

[@Sangria]

Suddenly I have a craving for a smoke.

[@sonjawillms-jones3982]

All of this fascinates me, I can never get enough. Bowie as Andy is perfection. #Bowie forever. #AndyWarholforever

[@mellow5123]

David, so articulate, thoughtful, thorough is on an entirely different level than Julian or Charlie. Strange dichotomy.

[@AllIsWellaus]

The first art exhibition I saw was his work at The Serpentine in London 1996. I was told it was the first time I saw his work.As the decades roll over, I have enjoyed his work far more than that particular day. Its challenging and confronting.

[@williampalomares248]

The movie was real gritty and as a young artist I was inspired .I've been on tmz time magazine ,etc.the art they made speaks to the people of all eras .

[@ReneeKnightYogaRani]

The movie was gritty & I think it was intended to be as he lived his life on the edge🙏🏽

[@BurningSky444]

What a great interview about Basquiat✨✨✨🤎✊🏽 I absolutely LOVE Mr Jeffrey Wright 🤎🤎🤎… especially his role in Broken Flowers 💐 and Bill Murray👏🏽👏🏽

[@berniekellman405]

A brilliant man, multi-talented artist and a friend and supporter of others like him who he wants to share with us in a sincere, passionate and labor-intensive manner. Very admirable.

[@equanimityDE]

Love this movie! I saw it years ago, and just found it again on KZbin.

[@TEXGLAM]

Julian told me he actually was able to stay within budget while making this film which is amazing. Being his first film it surely was a love project.

[@Zen0NoMind1]

Excellent eye opener of an interview. Also a wonderfully fabulous film. Inspirational! Thanks 💗

[@cliffdariff74]

this is a double whammy, an American and British with differing sensibilities, but both SPOT ON ! excellent. best Charlie Rose interview ever.

[@theprofilepod]

David Bowie is the epitome of an artist. He just gets it. He always stayed true to art. He did it his way. RIP

[@JSTNtheWZRD]

I wish the clips were there, but I know them anyway. It's nice to see this - glad you saved it for us.

[@markwatson8051]

This discussion never fails to be interesting.

[@valerieserret9893]

This movie was so touching and memorable. Very artistic and moving. I cannot believe how underrated it is! David Bowie gave a wonderful performance! My favorite Benicio Del Toro is Perfection!! Just a wonderful movie!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@danielhathaway43]

I disagree.. the actor playing him made him seem like a space case.. like he was high or something. If you watch an interview with Basquiat, he is incredibly bright and articulate.

[@davidgilfillan1934]

Bravo...both interviewees manage to remain fearless in their belief that should triumph ART over MONEY.

[@thomastournavitis]

Thanks for the upload... great interview

[@ricconstituantabrogatoirei4999]

However the discussion is really brillant. I do appreciate, thanks for uploading it.

[@cindyarnold7322]

One of my favorite movies of all time. The whole 80s vibe is captured, great soundtrack, and of course Jeffrey Wright did an amazing job.

[@bluecollar825]

Wright did do a fantastic job. After seeing Basquiat I started paying attention to his future roles. I also think Basquiat was his first role.👍

[@olgadebartolome1332]

This is wonderful, thanks so much!

[@giorgiobaroni4903]

Thank you for uploading this rare gem.

[@jessica5497]

"it shouldn't" "it doesn't" "it shouldn't" *Bowie rules*

[@Prospect.1]

Kinda reminds me of what Hilly said in CBGB ,,I dont care It doesn't matter, I dont care ,,but he helped so many greats reach their peek , sorry i got of point but this just reminded me of that ,,ya know how when u get older ,it happens lol ,,enjoy the music from the best generation of music ever made ,,and some great films about it all

[@bearbait7405]

Should=I want

[@douglasabdell7676]

Being that I knew Jean Michel personally , when I saw there was a movie about him I resisted in seeing it , feeling that he would not replace him and could not do justice to him or his work ... however after seeing this interview I was compelled to see the movie and saw it ... and am pleased that it exists ... Julian , in this interview " sold '" the film for me ....also I enjoyed Bowie's interpretation of contemporary Art ....

[@karimd88]

Wow, that is incredible. If you thought the film was good and you knew him I kind of have to see it! I’m sorry for your loss though (even though) so much time has passed)

[@douglasabdell7676]

@@karimd88 Visca Barca y Xavi " el Genio de La Masia "

[@datashat]

David Bowie's cynicism is spot on here.

[@u.s.n.retired1995]

Nice, Mr. Bowie is nice looking here. Very intelligent conversation. The compassion for the movie is definitely evident.

[@bearbait7405]

Thank you, Julian.

[@unknownfilmmaker777]

28:00 The graffiti artists that Bowie names were all quite different from the typical styles coming out at that time. While each writer of note had their own style, it was almost always within the general aesthetic of graffiti letters, flow and characters, somewhere between bubble letters and wild style. In other words, the names he mentions stood out. This was true before the art world got a hold on them.

[@condorreades2148]

Okay, the 49th minute, Jeffrey Wright is finally mentioned.

[@indiesindie1984]

Jeffrey Wright was brilliant!

[@williama.hovestreydt6623]

Bowie's right about creating a market to elevate commerce

[@feliciadominguez3365]

What an incredibly rich hour of conversation.

[@murderballad1154]

love how bowie calls the old skool new york graffiti writers 'signers' haha i think he means taggers.. bless his little martian socks. ♥

[@melrussell8736]

I would give my life, for Basquiat to LIVE. What an amazing talent each of his works- Breathtaking! RIP Basquiat, I wish your troubles were soothed.

[@vanamq2459]

Wow, I hope my artwork has the same effect on someone after I die! He was extraordinary!

[@reflexreaction3797]

from the movie he didn't seem a particularly nice person though

[@KeyDyer]

@@reflexreaction3797 the movie really made him seem like an uncaring slut, but I feel sure from everything else I’ve watched abt him that he was a loving person

[@ms_needle3502]

@@reflexreaction3797 al diaz said he was a more evil than good person in one documentary about him and if i remember correctly even basquiat himself said he was a terrible person at times. The drugs really can take person down a very dark path and change the behavior in a bad way :(

[@shondra6]

What a fabulous portrayal of John .. such a great choice of actors also representing the characters....🙏💜🙏💜one of favourite films of one of my favourite artists...

[@kommissar.murphy]

I really wish we got a full Warhola biopic starring Bowie.

[@truthseek3017]

Beautiful interview

[@Mycrazylittlehead]

Thank you for creating the film! Forever grateful this movie changed my life!

[@wonder6789]

23:43 If you didn't know Bowie was a rock star you could be easily convinced that he was an Art History scholar. Amazing exchange.

[@starrrfish77]

He actually WAS an Art History scholar

[@thomassimmons1950]

That was astounding!!!

[@katrinanuku8218]

Wow only just watched this movie! I think I appreciate it more as being 57 this year I understand it better now & it's perfectly cast, congratulations 👏🙌

[@daniel51020]

A film about a great artist made by great artists. This shines through in the film! Must watch.

[@nickdrago9416]

Casting Bowie as Andy was a genius move.

[@joegreaser]

I love this conversation

[@bearbait7405]

Chasm between artist and society. Heroic. Vindictive critiques wound only the soul of the critic.

[@anthonymorales842]

my favorite film of all time

[@Wavecattt]

During painting today i listen/ watched a docu About his life, now this intervieuw About the movie...later i'm going to watch this Beautifull movie... Again(watched it more than 100 times)

[@Rob901]

Revisiting . Interesting . Watched it awhile back . Enjoyed what Julian and David had to say . Enjoyed the movie . Watched it with an art class I was taking the first time

[@arymonem]

Excellent interview!

[@bstimy]

David Bowie was so fucking smart. I want to hear him and Franz Zappa have a discussion.

[@luckygitane]

Ben Jammin They met once. Zappa basically told him to fuck off.

[@bstimy]

I read that. Stole his guitar player.

[@luckygitane]

Ben Jammin Not really. Zappa was just being a child, for whatever reason. Bowie invited Belew to join his tour AFTER Zappa's was finished. Maybe he was just having a shit day.

[@condorreades2148]

In all the discussion of Basquiat, the film, no mention by any one of these three of Jeffrey Wright who gave life, breath and heart to the film, whose performance was unforgettable. I found that truly appalling.

[@css7059]

Jeffrey Wright did not like his edited performance.

[@perfectpens1262]

Condor Reades because the movie was not really for JMB it was a platform for his “friend” 😐

[@jbray34]

I own the film

[@GamesSatisfy]

He was mentioned you hypocrites

[@victoriabaker4400]

@@GamesSatisfy Yes he was, and more than once.

[@franknemeth7430]

A wonderful interview .

[@jilljacks603]

great critique on the art world (cartel) by Bowie.

[@raywade6034]

Disagree. Bowie was completely embarrassing and seemingly oblivious to the irony when he criticises the art market for elevating a handful of artists at 27:20 . Then he says his performance was an impersonation, he only gave the project ten days and, finally, acting bores him. But he changed when he put the wig on! It would behove Bowie to recognise what Julian Schnabel must have known about him by then: David Bowie is a dreadful actor. Thankfully, but revealingly, Bowie appears on screen for just ten minutes. His character dies off screen and poor Dennis Hopper has to do his crying for him.

[@alaididnalid7660]

@@raywade6034 You make valid points but how is he oblivious to the irony? He's pointing it out! If the irony is that he turned out to be one of those handful...what can I say, he's well aware ... And used that awareness to become famous...Bowie simply knew how to make money out of his work by resigning to the fact being commercial towards his work is necessary to make money. Somehow I do think he's a bad actor... which is rather odd considering the characters he played on stage. :)

[@aeneas237]

Bowie’s description of Andy is better than most books I’ve read on Warhol

[@PeterMayer]

Julian dead incredibly informative and heartfelt film. Thank you. Shamefully, I wasn't aware of basquiat. Better late than never.

[@dorfmanjones]

It's interesting that Schnabel, when put on the spot, admits he didn't think much if Basquiat's work, but he, and everyone else wanted to be associated with the film. The 'tragic' life-narrative of some artists, Van Gogh, Pollock, or Basquiat for example, overtakes the actual brief and limited accomplishment. Other artists - some of whom were extraordinary - who live long productive lives, do not instigate a myth that activates the public imagination. An early violent death is the best route to fame and wealth (for collectors) I guess. This has nothing whatsoever to do with painting per se, which almost always develops over many decades of quiet communion.

[@brutusalwaysminded]

One of my favorite Rose episodes. Thanks!

[@Herr2Cents]

100 million dollars today for a Basquiat. David Bowie 💜 made a good point. Out of all the graffiti artists only 3 were elevated by the art world.

[@beflygelt]

Damn Bowie didn't hold back lol, the stuff about Christianity took me off guard

[@olgadebartolome1332]

hahaha, they are really sparring Julian and David..amazing!

[@dr.mikeybee]

LOL! What a great interview! What characters!

[@SenorArbol]

At 46:00, David Bowie's the kind of guy that gives you the lighter first.

[@lisaariottiart]

I was "meh" with Julian Schnable's paintings but when he started to direct... ... my God, I was absolutely overtaken by his extreme talent and creative depth. Bravo! 👏🏻

[@JOSEPHCHARLESCOLIN2024]

I learned so much from this movie & it is a bedrock of my life in art

[@AlexanderLaurence]

Whoa! Bowie makes a good point: 27:10

[@MikeD0011]

Alexander Laurence good catch. I found that perspective very fascinating and never really thought about art that way.

[@tearorangi_____]

Bowie makes several awesome points! Omg! He just rose another fkn level in my book and I had him at the very top ffs #higherthanhigh

[@nawangjinpa9471]

I was also mind blown, but then came to know that the science called "sociology of art" explains that since "contemporary art" was massively sponsored by the CIA, especially in Europe right after WWII, its purpose was obviously to captivate and capture the intellectuals and thinkers away from the "communism" temptation, and radically cut them off from the lower class and working class, to embrace "non sense" as an attitude, cheating them by artificially and deliberately putting a high price (via market, media and art agencies) on the nonsensical art. Whereas art is meant to bring meaning and to make sense in connection with our lives, and has a social and political dimension, established and prized contemporary art has none. It's all about transgression, no more about subversion. And if you claim it's plainly nonsensical and anyone could produce that stuff, you will be described as lower class, as ignorant, therefore you need to say you can appreciate it, or at least appreciate the attitude. In short, this is heavy BS, and serious manipulation.

[@renieshakur7409]

i don't understand Bowie's point

[@alexanderbatiste5196]

Arguably the best moment of the interview. Quite insightful

[@jake4101]

Thank you

[@jovankataylor1940]

With respect to Jeffery Wright one of the best actors that's underrated ❤❤

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“She must be a very unhappy woman.” Bravo, Julian. I wish I had a piece of art for every time I have made this statement.