Cavaliers 2018 On Madness and Creativity (San Antonio)

[@brettcody76]

Please oh please bring back the Cavalier drills we all love: 4/5 geometric, heart-stopping, tight lines, and symphonic musicality!

[@drumcorps0junkie]

DEFINITELY

[@georgedixon9863]

amen!

[@davideanes3425]

@@bigtupa5613 not always

[@darthvader9969]

I feel like the Cavaliers are getting back into a groove that's going to get them high placements in the future

[@skittelkiddo1512]

Though it doesn't seem to be a fan favorite, this show was my favorite (at least conceptually)

[@gavin8526]

3:48 upper right box. the guy in front flosses and its the best

[@KevinButler35]

Hey thats me!

[@Blueberry-fan003]

Where?

[@organboi]

Nothing there.

[@Glorious_Natalie]

The Cavies came to my home town in Michigan to practice if you have seen their rehearsal show on their KZbin channel

[@polikwaptiwache397]

Thanks for all the hard work of uploading all these corps!! It is very much appreciated!! 🎺🥁

[@wise_up_dems.]

I listen to this and, it's good but, STILL.... I think the early to mid 2000 shows were more entertaining, "Bond", "Machine", "Corners", "Spin Cycle". Also, change for the sake of change doesn't ALWAYS work. This corps SHOULD always be in GREEN. It's who they ARE and have always been.

[@drumcorps0junkie]

@Theinfinitato Green is a COLOR, not a use to be CHAMPIONSHIP WINNING 🥁 &🎺 corps that wowed the crowd with "sophisticated drill and non-electric useless crap, trombones and pathetic voiceover mess.

[@maxcherkasskikh5960]

Sooooooooo much potential with this show... And yet that ending fucks it up every time. Came out of no where. And went nowhere as well.

[@dctrbrass]

Go green machine!!! ...wait, are they the black machine now? haha :)

[@boogymonster7]

I've gotta say. I've really hated this trend in DCI where they throw as much clutter on to the field as possible. There weren't any sick/cool drills in this show because there were fucking tarps and cages everywhere. I'm a huge cavalier fan, i just wish they'd go back to what made them dominent in the 2000's. I want the Green Machine back!!! D:

[@tmouse1234]

boogymonster7 the problem is that the design team for the cavaliers are trapped they want to make relevant modern shows and yet make them crowd favorites and a lot of the time you can’t just put on a show like “Machine” or “Niagara Falls” as well as please the judges. And to be fair I don’t think we need another show like “Machine”. If you love the Green Machine then support them no matter what

[@jesuspectre9883]

Visual Analysis is composed of five criteria: Authenticity, Cohesion, Universality, Uniqueness and Emotion. AUTHENTICITY - This show was authentic in the way it broached the subject of gay identity in the Rufus Wainwright version of Bolero. At least let's give it authenticity-- it pertained to the members, many of whom are challenging traditional attitudes toward sexual roles in society. This theme didn't pair well with the mental illness theme, but hey, that would have required some real time in planning and storyboarding by the artistic director. So forget it. UNIVERSALITY - Creative discovery is universal, and the feeling of becoming free or overcoming an obstacle are both universal. UNIQUENESS - This was a unique visual approach using John Nash lines connecting the stage elements, and the cages with gay men pouring out was original, so it was unique. EMOTION It had some emotion, capturing the feeling of freedom from constraint, and overcoming obstacles, and there's a definite change by the end, indicating some attention to the understructure of the show. COHESION - But the criterion that was totally lacking in this show was cohesion. It didn't hang together. The combining of the gay theme and mental illnesses was just not congruent. The theme was misaligned and un-cohesive.

[@christianhaile5588]

We had those props this year...

[@theyakel1]

Lol my school has these props now

[@troyharkcom6441]

FUCKKKKK WHAT AN OPENERRRRR

[@alessandrocamachoalecamach6426]

#GoBRAZILIANVANGUARD#GOCAVS4EVER#

[@caleb2100000]

Anyone know what they are singing around 9:50?

[@BomberBandMan]

caleb2100000 “Oh What a World” by Rufus Wainwright :)

[@tseries6622]

I’m coming here from the cavies 2010 show mad World and the differences are jumping out left and right. This show just didn’t so it for me. I love the cavies just not really this show.

[@chrissalazar7650]

t-gay

[@jesuspectre9883]

Mad World was even worse. It was more confused, thematically. The audience cheered in support of the insane Full Metal Jacket character Leonard Lawrence saying "This is my rifle." The audience didn't even realize the film was a dark lampoon of how the military wrongly preys on the mentally handicapped. The audience cheered at the masculine bravado of "This is My Rifle", despite the grim message underneath. The audience screamed because the sequence was visually stark, and because it was virulently masculine and supportive of military endeavors. But underneath it all, the audience had forgotten that "This is My Rifle" was part of Full Metal Jacket's damning expose of the US obsession with violence with which our culture is suffering. The audience misinterpreted the grim message, and screamed in support of the macho grandstanding. And that's not something a show designer should be proud of. And no, audience can't both honor the masculine military ideal, and praise the military's misguided abuse of the mentally ill. Those two things cannot reasonably co-exist in the same production.

[@Inspadave]

@@jesuspectre9883 jesus, man! The curtains were blue.

[@jesuspectre9883]

@@Inspadave "The curtains were blue". That means your designers did things without purpose. Maybe that's why you lost. Also, when you're spending a million dollar production budget with limited and specifically chosen design elements, the curtains better be blue for a reason. This isn't a novel or a solo artist doing a painting. This is a mass-scale youth education production with meaning. Designers have a responsibility of interpretation. They're being paid, not a lot, but they're being paid, and it's a highlly-collaborative art form.

[@crestonlukemartin9271]

Jesu Spectre You are partially correct. But remember the show was about the Cavaliers fighting the madness. The Rifleman’s creed was when they went completely mad. It was actually brilliantly written and was perceived exceptionally well.

[@lorenzorojas3008]

The real mahlkee brown

[@stephenelliott9937]

There's the cavaliers... then ho hum the rest....

[@Inspadave]

I agree. The Cavies are ho hum.

[@alexneagu8212]

@@Inspadave Dude why are you on every drum corps video bashing every corps lmao

[@future.mortician]

I honestly REALLY like this show, but there’s too much clutter on the field. Take all that junk off, change the drill accordingly, and this would’ve been a top 3 show.

[@violante1421]

5:59

[@ronaldmacdonald938]

Finally they addressed the elephant in the room.

[@jesuspectre9883]

@Micah Lall-Trail Oy vey.

[@organboi]

Haha!! Good one. Yes they sure did.

[@SM-rn8sq]

Ok can someone explain to me why some have said that this show felt like a "coming out" show Idk if it is but I also seen some Cavaliers merch with a rainbow can someone explain I dont know much about them

[@skittelkiddo1512]

Two of them kissed at the end maybe that has some connection to it

[@jesuspectre9883]

This is an appalling thread that highlights how misunderstood this show design was. There are hundreds of these threads around the internet, all speculating about what this show meant. Some of the threads are jaw-dropping in their ignorance. Here's the truth in a nutshell. 1) Cavaliers' design team started with gay composer Rufus Wainright's version of Bolero, which was a commentary on gay and straight roles in society. Great. 2) The design team had no visual program, so they did a search on Ravel, Bolero's composer, and researched artists with similar mental illnesses, and added the John Nash schizophrenic string theory connecting things. 3) Holy shit, they now have a show about coming out and mental illness, an uncomfortable and historically inflammatory combination that they did nothing to correct all season. Worse, many people in the audience think the Cavaliers were making fun of gay people, with the use of their flamboyant costuming and exaggerated expressions. Many in the audience thought that including a rainbow, and full length iridescent mylar wings was a "joke", a lampoon of gay culture. Meanwhile, the entire season, not one executive from this bumbling design team came out to explain or own the gay imagery-- the flamboyant wings, Wainwright's gay lyrics, the rainbow, or coming out of the cages or anything else. Not one person from the Cavaliers. WTF. So let's be clear, this misguided mismanaged 501c3 organization chose a theme of gay coming out, and yet no one on the management team was available to discuss it, or clarify it for the general public. The show was completely misunderstood, could easily be mistaken for equating being gay with mental illness, and management did nothing about it. They came out with one "It's not about mental illness" video, but didn't fill in the blanks. This show will go down as one of the most misunderstood, recklessly designed, socially irresponsible and culturally ignorant shows of all time. Someone needs to be fired.

[@jesuspectre9883]

Tuba Jesus I'm gay too. I click on show design elements to see what's underneath. Santa Clara's show, for example, was about Trump's botched border handling, featuring barcodes like the ones the child immigrants are issued, costumes and flags in the colors of the Mexican flag, bandana like masks people wore which are reminiscent of Mexican immigrants, and featured cages where people were held-- all under the guise of a biblical story of "Babylon" where cultures could no longer speak to one another. All this shit is hiding underneath and gets revealed when you click on it.

[@jesuspectre9883]

I'mThatRandomDude Yes! Explain what you mean thoroughly so we can get it.

[@nickmason9847]

Jesu Spectre hey man DM me and I’d love to explain what the show meant to us

[@ohuenromero4317]

My brother is in here his name is eric

[@BerserkRain]

Did he march 2019 Wrong side of the Tracks

[@pampry4]

I liked the old school cavs better.

[@mattwilkinson_2686]

Cavvies would not have a show without microphones and recordings

[@RLNTEX]

I have watched a lot of DCI bands lately run their routines and even the one I truly love (shall remain nameless) does the same thing on field. They all play one-three notes loudly and hold them for a few seconds then change field positions. What ever happened to playing real music? This crap is has NO melodic signature and is quite unrecognizable to any audiophile. Don't get me wrong, I know it's not the bands fault but the directors/choreographers should explain why this is done and so far removed from high-school shows, please. Oh and before the haters call me a troll let me qualify my remarks. I spent 6 years on the high school band team (7-12 grade) and 4 years with DCi (1979-1983). So unless you have done the same don't comment.

[@jesuspectre9883]

It's the "Put a Button on It" syndrome, where each melodic phrase has to end with some triple forte standard chord resolution. Audiences respond to volume. Knowledgable musicians are pointing out this candy-coated arrangement syndrome. It usually accompanies some huge rifle toss and a formal stationary drill set. It's sickening, unmusical and cliche. However, on the other hand, now musicians are rewarding corps who are avoiding the "Put a Button on It' syndrome. Any corps that has unique transitions, or who avoid contrived resolutions every 120 counts are being over-rewarded, and in the end could use a little more showmanship. Personally, I can't stand the Button syndrome. Carolina Crown had a couple of these awkward contrived chord resolutions in their show, and it was disappointing to say the least.

[@joeyteixeira01]

I can’t tell if this is a troll lmao, band team DCI Band, I lost so many brain cells.

[@RLNTEX]

​@@jesuspectre9883Yes I agree with what you are saying here. I have seen just a few that step outside the cliché-box and do things a bit different for instance, Bluecoats TILT closer pitch bend. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoa3mWClbseNp6c The problem with this and most people don’t see it is that the band is NOT playing during the pitch bend which is a lie to the audience really. But it still looked good so I give them credit for it.

[@ms-mo8hl]

He said the B word

[@drumcorps0junkie]

@@ms-mo8hl He's keeping it real.

[@ms-mo8hl]

Worst show of all time from the cavies. It was the clown show from the 70s until this disaster came out

[@cameronscott5649]

The caveliers said gay rights

[@avilla35]

It's like watching a high school marching band program. How sad...

[@nathan-qo9rj]

A Villa except it isn't. A high school band could never perform a Drum Corps show. Suck it up.

[@polikwaptiwache397]

A Villa: Is that what you think?? Let me tell you something... drum corps is much more than that.... it's a unique lifestyle of music and meeting new friends. The spirit of drum corps is within you for the rest of your life!!!

[@sammy135_]

Obligatory *Dont feed the troll* comment

[@jakey477]

Nathan Steinmuller except for maybe the bluecoats show this year, there show is easy af

[@erwinschliemann7482]

Nathan Steinmuller Well, if you've ever seen high school band programs like those of Hebron, Flowermound, Broken Arrow, Tarpon Springs, etc. they have very surprisingly dedicated shows for a high school. That said the Cavies this year still had plenty of sets that I haven't seen any of those band programs get close to in terms of speed or complexity.

[@notbryan2076]

5:50