BATB Match Thrown, Nyjah NFT, Should AMs Get Paid?

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[@exerciseinfutility4929]

Nyjah is the Drake of skateboarding.🤣

[@furleysbrain]

HAhahaha

[@gabrielcaraballo9540]

This shit was funny asf bro, good one

[@t4th.]

Nyjah the type of guy to use a ramp to get up a curb

[@francis7140]

Bro no cap I literally had this thought yesterday, I'm done 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@AlexG-xl1cc]

He is a Tim and Eric character irl

[@fingerboardboi4382]

petition to get gifted hater as referee for BATB

[@johnrizzo4383]

If Berra was a man that liked doing cool shit shit maybe that would happen

[@planetzoot7410]

The sherif

[@gabrielcaraballo9540]

Definitely the sheriff, our boy is out here telling the skate community to act right, his words are needed

[@SammyStoneify]

Thats no way Berra would ever let that happen

[@premonemo]

He'd probably only accept the position to destroy all the Cariuma and Minion logos

[@ChewiestSnow]

Berra called him on the phone like "ill give you $2k if you let the cariuma bryte boarder win."

[@andreafantasia9551]

I was thinking the exact same thing lol

[@damianstachelski775]

Huge fan of Cody, like Cariuma, don’t care much at all for Bryte but that shit was funny af 🤣

[@nater1941]

The Nyjah rant had me crackin’ up

[@dannykennedy124]

Straight up 😂

[@fazman72]

It was creeping me out

[@iamnotanumber100]

Loved it 😄😄😄😄

[@Fgarfio01]

Carlos at T realized he didnt wanna commit to 9 months of batbs

[@jamerszn]

Hahaha

[@lander.96]

Carlo's great, and he hates Cariuma so that's a plus.

[@spec3280]

This channel is an antidote to the current bullshit in skateboarding. Bless you sir. I love to dive into the nuances. There are a lot of jokers right now. ~ Either way the act of skateboarding will survive. No matter the trends and politics, it will always be there.

[@ObesetoBeast]

Congrats on your darkstar sponsorship!

[@BrendanCalliesComposer]

Lmaooo

[@Shannonkellysk81111]

That whole Nyjah rant was hilarious.” Why is he doing that to me”🤣🤣🤣😂😂

[@spaceistheplace2293]

TJ Rodgers eatin good off the 300 Canadian blind payin him

[@jcheeks36]

Jeron saying 200 a month is good is crazy in 2021

[@walmorcarvalho2512]

And considering how much product-placement there is on the screen as he says that makes it borderline callous

[@EWillard44]

not even crazy, just straight up disgusting. 200 a month isnt even enough to pay for most peoples grocerys over 2 weeks.

[@BroadcastsFromPoorFarm]

I thought the context of his comment was that it was good 25 years ago? Not in 2021.

[@sheaskateboarding]

The guys living in Cali should understand 200 ain’t shit.

[@slimeslime2123]

Sometimes I wonder how jeron is a millionaire like the dude seems so fried and confused all the time can’t see how he does all this business shit lol

[@J0sh351]

Surprised Crob said that, the amateurs now days are a lot gnarlier than anything hes done as a pro

[@anddee4938]

Agreed. There’s so many skaters out there that are on another level.

[@xaphan8581]

Plus if you think about it like let’s say I’m an AM and to be very generous on the company’s side their paying me 500 a month right? That’s not enough to support yourself. So now because you have to make a living, your not only skating for a company that is barely supporting you but you would have to have a job also. Then you have to think like maybe you should be really careful with the stuff you try skateboarding because if you get hurt now you can’t work. So your never really going to give it everything to go pro unless you live with your parents or somehow don’t have bills. They should at least pay a working wage. To say don’t pay them at all is kind of dumb.

[@keanurevert9275]

dude made one ass part forever ago now he wants to gatekeep kids

[@nosignofzzz6392]

Dude please never stop covering Nyjah

[@dustyyshellz1320]

I work part time retail and make $250-$300 a week. Fuck that haha, can’t do anything with $200 a month. No way.

[@i-never-look-at-replies-lol]

You'd basically be risking your body for $50 a week and getting hurt would take you out of your other job. It's almost best to just skate for fun and stress about it affecting one source of income instead of it being another one you could lose.

[@dougswainson4704]

I’m working full time retail and getting around 500 Canadian a week, 300 Canadian a month would cover gas and a couple granola bars for the month

[@rambojonj1838]

@@dougswainson4704 yeah but you guys all live with your mommy and daddy till you're 38 or they croak. Who cares? Chillax

[@dustyyshellz1320]

@@rambojonj1838 what lmao

[@Lionelmachtvideos]

@@rambojonj1838 tf are u even talking abt?

[@PrinceVegita1]

The throw is something straight out of a wrestling storyline. Next round someone will distract the referee and hit one of the guys with a steel chair.

[@Vomitbukkake]

In a alt universe i wish this is what BATB would turn into. Slowly turning into a performance art mocking wrestling n anything else crazy

[@PrinceVegita1]

@@Vomitbukkake in our current universe I wish this is what BATB would turn into lmao. They got the star power and equipment to make a well produced show. Could be fun af

[@dennyfader7559]

I think TJ means well, and was just trying to meet the room in the middle and offer a counterpoint without getting too confrontational.

[@NickFoxYT]

That type of attitude got us here

[@odeswarms]

nah mane that's what Berra wants

[@slimeslime2123]

Yeah atleast TJ said something and didnt let it slide lmao but $200 lmao I make that in 2 days from shitty apprenticeship wages couldn’t imagine that amount monthly

[@pigtosheep6205]

No for sure TJ is a cool dude out of all the pro skaters ive met he was the most chill and friendly and just awesome guy

[@dennyfader7559]

@@NickFoxYT I hear you, but didn't we get here because skate companies don't even make that much money to begin with? Not counting the Nikes and Adidas and Cariumas

[@TheRadScientist_]

The Patrice Oneal “man you corny!” Had me dead ☠️ Playa hataz skit is goated lol

[@usernotfound904]

Now if you’ll excuse me, I’ve got to get home to put some more water in Bucknasty’s mama’s dish! -Silky Johnson

[@Dthesun]

r.i.p Patrice

[@chyeaOGKush]

r i p patreeeky

[@TheRadScientist_]

@@chyeaOGKush a fellow O&A watcher? Anthony and Patrice were comedy gold together 🙏

[@chyeaOGKush]

@@TheRadScientist_ hell ya brother , big fan , only actually listened regularly to the last year of the show, but ive seen all the classic shows 1000 of times lol

[@TheDepthsoftheAbyss]

lmao imagine thinking that someone providing labour that a company is profiting off of shouldn't be compensated jfc absolute brain worms

[@janecummag]

Am skaters are what drive this industry. Once you’re pro you stop caring about skateboarding. That’s how I feel.

[@shitsonitscody]

For real. “$200 a month”. Bro you think ams should have to work full time and just skate on the side when they can? Wtf is that haha

[@dugesn2058]

based trotsky pfp

[@SkateSage]

“No doing tricks that slide on the ground if your opponent popped his trick” means that you have to pop your tail on defense if the person who set popped their tail. Some dudes (e.g. Marc Johnson) back in the day were doing tricks like 360 shoves and BS bigspins without popping at all, because the floor is so smooth. As far as I know, the rule isn’t referring to sliding out the last bit of a trick. As long as the tail popped, it’s good

[@rye_shutup5903]

Interesting

[@michaelknoth2352]

Yep! Although, have you noticed on nollie and fakie tres it seems to get ignored?

[@planetzoot7410]

Ok

[@SkateSage]

@@michaelknoth2352 yeah, good point

[@fernandoreyes680]

I agree

[@adamax08]

Thats the one and only issue I have with TheNineClub ist that they always spin everything into a positive light. Everything and everyone is happy and good, only positivity on most of the discussed things. No criticism at all. I mean positivity is good and all, but a bit criticism should be said too. Thats why I like Roger cause he (mostly) says his true opinion, positive AND negative.

[@thesuperstomper4776]

I agree with you but there is a rant/discussion where Roger was going off on the skate industry about paying the filmer and he went on for a good 20 minutes. You could tell he was still pissed off after tons of years. Then he mentions that he comes to the nine club to celebrate the good part of skating, he’s not there to get upset.

[@adamax08]

@@thesuperstomper4776 I agree with you on that. Though imo if you have a discussion, you have to see things from both sides and dont ignore the bad and also the good things.

[@crkrcksteady]

Agreed. That's my issue with the 9 club too. It's almost like its set up as a front for the "skate industry". They'd never actually rag on anybody. That's pretty weird because I can almost guarantee Roberts and/or Roger is or was a Stern fan. In contrast to something like The Bunt or The Mostly Skateboarding podcast that do actually (or let their guests) criticize people or companies.

[@audiomystic]

There’s an episode where the dudes were shitting on Roger. It was about “should filmers get paid and how much?”. Roger explained all the reasons they should, and how pay is still way too low. Other dudes basically looked at him and were like “be happy just to exist and do it for free”. In the attempt to spin everything positive. Shit, people getting paid enough to stay off the streets is positive if you ask me. Unrealistic positivity becomes toxic. It was really uncomfortable for me to watch because they were not hearing or siding with Roger, the only one of them that has been a serious filmer his whole life…

[@audiomystic]

@@thesuperstomper4776 didn’t see your comment, I also mentioned this. It ticked me off the other guys were not supporting Roger’s position. Like he should do all the work of filming for weeks just to make 20 dollars. Pretty messed up way to support a friend.

[@habitat245]

Agree about the nine club thing. They try to spin everything into a positive to the point where it’s nauseating sometimes. They act like everything is great all the time. Nah guys some things that happen in skateboarding are wack.

[@A1_Freddy]

Stopped watching them because of this. So annoying like just be REAL everyone is so scared to lose their little platform straight sell out behavior

[@planetzoot7410]

Your girl laughing at the lion shit makes it even more funny

[@girlish9989]

Can’t wait to die and be reanimated to watch BATB 12 Finale

[@dannykennedy124]

I get the feeling ur kinda weird

[@peepogob]

​@@dannykennedy124 why are you saying that

[@dannyarchives]

@@dannykennedy124 ??

[@JeffersonSteelflexx]

I always assumed the popping rule was like more you have to actually pop shuv-it, not do one of those quick shuv-it’s when the tail doesn’t hit if your opponent snapped his tail and popped his board. Granted I haven’t watched BATB in a min but that’s how I’ve always understood and played.

[@GoScience123]

Yea to me I heard a pop so even if u slid after that it would count

[@arthurlisi9296]

It’s because your right and this dude is clueless.. anyone with half a brain knows this..I can’t believe I had to scroll the entire comments to find some to actually correct mans.. it’s common sense..

[@maxwellbaer1158]

continue your amazing work gifted

[@TristenSchern]

Chocolate Ams have done more for the brand than Crob has done in the last decade, yet he gets the royalty checks from pro decks. Kind of backwards if you ask me.

[@iesoundbomb]

I mean he does rep the brand on one of the larger skate platforms out there. Even if he was getting paid as like a brand ambassador it makes sense to me

[@scovell7]

Crob's career is fascinating. How is it possible for a professional to produce so little?

[@nooeyvuitton]

@@scovell7 personality maybe. Same thing with TK

[@scottyw2581]

My first board was a Darkstar back in the day and I loved it, I recently started skating them again and I really like the shapes especially the Decenzo 😅 funny how everyone has their taste and how different shapes/concave/kick steepness speaks to people individually.

[@sebastianmartinez7173]

I’m actually hyped on like like all your content and I’m hyped you make a really good amount

[@Alex-ep5vz]

one of my new favorite channels. love the vids man.

[@arondelacuba2649]

jah is the final boss for lightskins

[@Sphynnx]

amazing work as always sir

[@strangerzings]

Great epi. Would love to see some coverage of King of Macba, too!

[@jboyxd6573]

It’s crazy how much it’s been blowing up over the past year 🤔😏

[@jamerszn]

Nahhh hahahahhaha 😭😭

[@666disco]

Stole my mom’s credit card. Gonna buy some fire digital art. Thanks Nyjah and Hater.

[@pedromoresco334]

hahahha i was so confused with the way the jah talked as well. glad you covered it.

[@ArthurVushnagh]

I mean, maybe that call threw carlos off.. he does have kids, so he may have heard something that made him worried idk

[@k-set2869]

This video made my day!!!

[@nickaguri]

rockin vid as always my dude

[@1800milkcarton]

love the conent man

[@MrDrRemi]

Lol this is my favorite channel by far. Opinions and statements I can agree with

[@aldanmichael9386]

I just found your channel today finally somebody is addressing all this clusterfuck shit going on in skating and your applied humor is spot on I was so fucking weak when you realized Nyjah was looking at the lions you were talking shit about

[@booftoot]

back in the late 90's/early 2000's some am's got like am models. i remember cory duffle having a wheel on pig with his name on it while he was am

[@jeffwonsong]

Best thing on youtube

[@crookedsouls]

$200 in the 90s was a lot different than it would be today, when skating was a lot smaller! Keep the comment in context.

[@pinkylieder5878]

Just trying to educate myself on your channel yeah it's fire looks like I'm going to try to do something like that

[@RelicswithAlex]

I thought the ‘slide on the ground’ rule had to do with whether it popped tail or not

[@twobitt2222]

Also “Defense has a bigger margin for error” idk if that applies to this situation but I’d definitely count it.

[@dovel9149]

Yea man, such a stupid take and also carlos is the type of person to mess up a sw bs flip on flat while being able to sw flip bs noseblunt a legde in like 2,3 tries.

[@Elfuerte7sk8]

Gifted hater the hero we all needed lol who would’ve thought

[@JOSSHBLoris]

If I’m not mistaken, the “slide-on-the-ground” rule refers to the initial lift off of the floor. ie, shuvs and pop shuvs; nollie flips can be done without popping the nose.

[@kristopherstegavik3741]

I watch you but the patrice clip really made me know i can relate to you lol u real G lets keep it that way

[@simox362]

give them 200? lmao bruh, thats not even minimum wage

[@seanchristopher740]

I think the Berrics' "you have to pop your trick if your opponent pops theirs" is more referring to popping the tail or nose initally. The rule came about from Joey Brezinski not popping a Fakie Big Spin and just "whiffing" or sliding the nose. But I actually agree with you about not sliding tricks around when referring to the spin involved in the trick. Love the vids and keep up the sick content brother!

[@gabrielcaraballo9540]

THANK YOU SOMEONE THAT KNEW THE MATCH WAS THROWN, the berries turned so bad batb 12 is so messy and unorganized, as drawn out, I love some of the contenders but they should have different management

[@JakeLowther]

I’m literally riding that fa board u showed in the beginning. Our local shop has a lot of fa and hockey boards. Don’t mind their graphic or shape.

[@soydave1988]

Hockey is probably my favorite board company nowadays

[@carkar52]

This channel is god sent, the Nyjah rant had me dead 😏

[@janecummag]

That’s why I make videos of GH

[@tomcuddy]

hell yeah dude. newly subbed. love your vids man , watching from nz..

[@gorryman]

Dam even with my vans I swap for the fp 5 mm insoles that heat generated action saves my life

[@BigBevev]

I was hyped on carlos’ straight 8

[@ejakeulate4058]

that jah vid reminds me so much of that garth brooks welcome to facebook video

[@dannywuu618]

only thing in my city is a bike shop occasionally having boards.. ill drive an hour away just to support a shop

[@Splifflore]

Top tier content

[@jokamund]

the pop/slide rule is for things like a shuv vs a pop shuv, not for how a trick rotates. sure he hit the ground earlier but its not like he came to a stop and rotated, he still spinning at the same rate he was in the air

[@londonluzuriaga5063]

This is great to watch on the toilet

[@mclarensaleenf7]

Man thank you for pointing out the lame 360s in BATB. Ever since it began hardly any refs call sliding entire 180+ degree slides on the ground. A popped 360 fully spun in the air is not at all the same as a weak 180 to 180 revert. Feel like there needs to be a specific rule for spins even though the pop rule should be enough. It clearly isn’t because the refs don’t care at all about it

[@Skdntplay]

this was such a great comeback-🤓

[@fhhu3167]

Can you do a review of the new chima furgerson part?

[@funintended367]

with Carlos’ experience I was surprised to be judging his foot placement on those tricks on defense

[@funintended367]

intentional maybe

[@freakbag556]

The slide on the ground is somone can't slide a 3 shove or a biggerspin w/o popping if the oppenent pops it doesnt apply for 360 and like backside flips

[@adio4402]

I just found your content and I gotta say, I really appreciate your work. In a sense, you come off as the iDubbbbz of the skateboarding world.

[@MotherFingerJones]

Kickflip 5-0 on the weird angled ledge/hubba from Hyun is as legit as they come. We need more PLUG steeze.

[@ReaperPLUR]

With the Batb taking its dying breathes, you should review or let us know what you think about king of Macba

[@PR4WN]

bruh you got me DEAD on the nyjah stuff 😂😂😂

[@hablemosdeskate]

Here in Argentina the minimun wage per month is $200 ... and in regards to the last video, the board prices here go up every other month LOL

[@MrNight-iw9md]

There should be no “am” skaters. There should be flow which are unpaid people coming up who get product, a “minor league” equivalent pro who get paid but maybe on a lower tier and not getting signature products, and full pro who have signature products and higher pay. Amateur skaters are often promoting the companies they ride for just as much as their pro counterparts, and really are only am by status. There are plenty of ams at a higher level than some pros. They should definitely get paid- and whatever magazine shot or social media pay pros get, ams should get the exact same.

[@olfi500]

Turning Pro is now the equivalent of getting a gold watch for your 25 year job anniversary - purely a recognition of seniority

[@sadboiindigogaming124]

Like Evon Martinez isn’t pro and definitely should be

[@MrNight-iw9md]

@ShootinTheShit there is something called a “billboard shot” and different companies have different payment agreements based on their logos appearing in magazines. For example, when you see a skater in a magazine, if the logo on their hat or shirt is clearly visible, and likewise for the bottom of the board including stickers, and shoes, they get paid a pre negotiated amount from those companies. This is influenced by where the shot appears, and how large the image is. Of course these are negotiable and more popular skaters can demand higher pay, but whether it is an am or a pro, they are both putting those logos out in a publication which the company is reaping advertisement benefits. I’m not sure if ams get paid for providing that kind of exposures or their sponsors, but if they don’t, they should be able to negotiate appropriate pay for those scenarios. They might already, but if not, they should.

[@SawDawify]

Uh Thats exactly how it works now. Flow just gets product, ams get paid but not as much as Pros. Pro only means you have signature products and take a percentage on each sale because your name is what sells it.

[@populisttrope9385]

Thank you thank you thank you for pointing out the ridiculousness is the skate world.

[@geedubbs32]

my first job, after graduating with a bachelor's degree, I was getting about 200$ a month and it didn't go a long way, but it helped...

[@beaucameron3523]

Best comment i saw about carlos was that the phone call was his manager saying the berrics cheque didnt clear.

[@johnautry2711]

As bad as I want to hate this channel 99% of the content is so right. Keep it up bro

[@r0cky.444]

my first one was dark star but it was a felix the cat board and it was sexy

[@BottleBrassMonkey]

Love the Anthony Adams shout out “HA HA HAA”

[@mzetts3804]

egad! my dude bringing back, "dratz!"

[@dylanfuller8146]

😂 damn dude I’m dying from that that last one

[@chriskellypoi]

I thought the slide on the ground rule was about popping bigspins?

[@birddogfreemann]

What is also holding Unknow Last resort skate shoes is the Converse waffle bottoms. Too stiff.

[@burner887]

13:18 " look we're on the custom laptop right here, *rog* "

[@Chiefs_fan1595]

Nyjah with the silence of the lambs vibe

[@kbirk2003]

my best board was a darkstar 8.0, short wheelbase and steep kicks

[@Dracula_sb]

I haven't seen selling that good since HBK vs Hogan. Also, the Jah with a Drake moment crying laughing face x3

[@TTEREVE]

You are right the first time with his name

[@RikRiorik]

My first pro board was a Darkstar. Bloody good board too.

[@graxjpg]

I had an Aaron Snyder darkstar board back in the day, back when they were made in a respectable factory haha

[@RikRiorik]

@@graxjpg I still love Darkstar. Just wish they’d make 8.5s and not max out at 8.375”. Boards are absolute beasts and have pop and stiffness for ages.

[@graxjpg]

@@RikRiorik right now they’re going through a weird phase. While the Walmart DS boards are keeping the traditional black knight aesthetic alive (reasonably, no idea who runs the Walmart boards art direction), their “real” stuff based out of dwindle is homogenizing their image with other large corporate skate brands. Even to the point of doing colabs with cartoon shows. I like the sustainability efforts they make with dwindle, and also the fact that they have a guarantee protecting against manufacturing defects. That guarantee is basically necessary when you make your boards in China, though.

[@RikRiorik]

@@graxjpg I’ve not been a fan of the art since the Celtic boards they made back in ’19 or ’20. I absolutely loved those though.

[@graxjpg]

@@RikRiorik same here. The late 2010s saw a lot of skate brands pushing for a new aesthetic, going about that change in a similar manner that a regular corporate marketing agency would endorse.

[@tainanlehmann3411]

it was always pretty clear to me that this berries rule only means your tail/nose has to hit the ground if your opponent' did. Like no doing shovits/unpopped bigspins. it was pretty obvious at the time this rule was implemented, as joey brezinsky and some other guys were clearly "cheating" that way.. even on frontside bigspins which is actually kinda impressive haha

[@davidbroberg4646]

there is no need for that rule conserning "shovits", beacuse in a game of skate you try to do the same trick as your opponent. so if your opponent does a POP-shovit , you have to do a POP-shovit. if you do a shovit, you fail. if your opponont does a shov-it, you have to do a shov-it, if you do pop-shovit you fail. on bigspin it is bit vierder, beacuse a bigspin can be done both in the air and sliding on th eground, it is called a bigspin nomatter what. anyway:" NO SLIDING ON THE GROUND" MEANS NO FUCKING SLIDING ON THE GROUND WHAT SO EVER, if your opponent popped his trick. alleast dont slide more than your oppononet.

[@dogsweat1256]

ah yes another refreshing swifted gator video

[@matthew5684]

why are you so entertaining?

[@troxel]

Your channel is neat buddy.

[@peruperu-jj8zs]

there is a guy at my local who buys darkstar decks because it's the cheapest deck at the skate shop and he is really good too.

[@janecummag]

That’s called an anomaly.

[@johnrizzo4383]

Where can I watch some gifted ripping

[@RegularFootisChris]

Adding a like to this Video!

[@kill4annah]

Venezuela runescape gold farmers earn $200. AM skaters can supplement their income by farming gold part time

[@enrapturevox]

The messed up thing is Roberts’ take is actually right; by definition, if these am’s are getting paid anything then they are technically a professional. What’s unsettling is how the take exposes the industry wide abuse of the term “amateur”. Anyone getting a few bones a month is technically a professional and should therefore be given a full salary to do their job.

[@frontsidekrookedgrind289]

dude you're right. the only true difference between the "amateur" and "professional" is the name on the board

[@JosephFrye85]

I'm skating a fa board because I found it in a trash can in Venice beach.. true story.. And $200 a month is less then they give the homeless in California every month ( which is $220)

[@mariopatlan9595]

I think the rule about popped vs slid tricks refers to the fact that there needs to be a pop at the initiation of the trick as opposed to a full rotation in the air as the rule was created in dispute of popped vs slid shove its. To be fair though, the rule isn’t clear in its wording either so that’s the Berrics’ fault.

[@andresmartines1394]

With Chris on this come from a time when you don’t get paid till your pro so it fits but times change soo it is what it is