Batman (1989) Commentary Podcast

[@Demetri124]

To Captain Logan: I personally think in the scene where Bruce tells Vicki Vale he doesn't know who Bruce Wayne is, is because Bruce is originally uninterested in meeting Vicki Vale. Bruce Wayne gets interviewed by reporters and girls throwing themselves over him, so when Vicki approached him, lying about his identity was pretty much his way of saying piss off

[@deathtarget1337]

and think how many kids did not know what VHS IS when you talked about it in this podcast

[@zeoscope]

I listened to this without watching the film and it was still fairly entertaining. The stuff you guys do together is always my favorite stuff on this channel. The two of you have some funny repartee when you're both in the same room. I'd definitely be down for some more movie commentaries. My suggestion for the next one: Sin City.

[@SuperKing604]

Its so cool that you respond to comments on even old videos. Filming these would I think make the experience for us better, seeing your guys' expressions are stuff just helps for some reason. the superhero rewind is different since the pictures in the video change.

[@alexander3062]

I actually own both the VHS with the diet coke and warner bros ball cap and the DVD I love the VHS for those commercials though :)

[@taylorpechter5422]

I can't believe that after so many times Captain Logan has seen this movie, he totally glazed over that during the commercial, Joker said "New and Improved Joker products. With a new secret ingredient, Smilex". Vicki Vale didn't just randomly call it Smilex. Great commentary though, I love this movie, it is my favorite live-action Batman film.

[@kamdan2011]

Tsk. Tsk. Tsk.

[@RevengeCreatureDelux]

The Joker refers to it as 'Smilex' in his commercial that interrupts the news. It's followed by a 'Love that Joker' gag from the model cutouts..

[@Bowserfett08]

I really enjoyed this commentary. I watched the film while I listened and I can't wait for you to do more.

[@ikonoklastification]

Man you guys hit home with this, I think I told you guys before this was the first film I saw in theaters. I love this movie.

[@FailedFuturist3626]

This was a fun review to listen to. I think that the credits are longer now because of all the SFX artists and designers that work on movies.

[@Geekvolution]

I tried to get it up as a podcast last night and was having issues. Going to try again today-- I know several people probably would like that. -CL

[@PrimatePunk]

Loved it, I watched the movie. Although I was ahead a few minutes. I had to pause the movie a few times and resume based on whenever you guys happen to mention what was happening on screen right at that exact moment. I can't wait for more.

[@Geekvolution]

We intended these as audio tracks you'd watch along with the movie, but I can see merit to shooting them, too. If we do it, it'll be a while-- I need a camera I can shoot longer with, but I'll definitely consider it. -CL

[@indianatrekker26]

Really enjoyed listening to the commentary while having the movie on in the background. Would love to see you guys tackle Superman: The Movie.

[@Geekvolution]

I'm not sure... Sarah and I were wondering that when we put the picture together. -CL

[@Demetri124]

Overall fun thing to listen to for 2 hours. Glad to here more insight from you guys, and I hope the 2 points I made give you something to think about. Please do more of these!

[@MediaScopeReview]

I would love to see a commentary for all of the Batman movies, especially Mask of the Phantasm. But any other movie would do. I just loved this commentary. Thanks CL!

[@shadowspider9]

That was intentional. Batman is basically Zorro mixed with Serlock Homes and dressed as a bat. In fact Zorro is now a part of Batman's origin as being the movie that Bruce saw the night his parents died.

[@TienShinhanZ]

Hey Cap, just want to say that Podcast/Commentary and i think you should do more, even though its over 2 hours long i watched err listened to the whole thing lol and id like to see more, especially of Batman 1966 and Batman Forever (Those are my favorites xP)

[@shoshawty2]

This is awesome! Please do more! I would like to see you guys tackle the theatrical cut of Superman II. This being one of my favorite sequels ever, I think there's a LOT of ground to cover about this film, and after watching your Rewind on it I would love to hear some of Vince or Sarah's thoughts about the flick. Yes, I said "flick;" it happened, and I'm okay with it.

[@Knowing-Narrative]

that's burton's style. love it or hate it. you've got to fill in lots of blanks.

[@BobTheHun64]

I saw the Bugs Bunny thing your talking about on youtube.

[@dandy97]

Watched this while watching the movie. Very good. Thanks for uploading. I'm actually thinking about doing this by myself for my channel. I never thought about doing a commentary just as audio without the movie for the video. Very neat idea.

[@jakesmeltz1]

Hey Cap, I really enjoyed this commentary and the one on Spiderman. I think you and Vince are hilarious and you bring up a lot of great points. I was wondering if you could do a commentary on the Marvel movies leading up to the Avengers since it's coming out next weekend. Keep it up, guys! Your channel is my favorite on youtube!

[@SB992REBORN]

just watched the film while listening to your guys podcast/commentary. Very nice :) I hope you guys can do it on Dark Knight and Dark Knight Rises soon!....

[@kamdan2011]

I think the Eckhart character was homage to Orson Welles’ character in Touch of Evil.

[@767scarecrow]

I wacthed the whole thing without the movie.Still incredibly entertaining.Good job guys!

[@jbernal682]

Wow. This takes me back. The good old days of GV. Not that today’s days aren’t still good. They definitely are.

[@DeepEye1994]

Well, thanks for this entertaining night, guys! You sure expressed a lot of intresting stuff and points of view while commenting on my 4th all time favorite film... As for those bats in the cave... I think they actually got real bats, but they're not exactly the little critter-like bats you would expect like in "Batman Begins", they look alot more like flying foxes, you know, those BIG ASS bats.

[@nightwing4077]

THIS WAS AWESOME!!! :D Do the either Begins, Dark Knight, Iron Man, Die Hard, or Star Trek II next!

[@MediaScopeReview]

Hey Cap, You were talking about the Phantom's eye black disappearing and it made me think, if you look at the end of Batman Returns when Bruce takes off his mask to show Catwoman who he is, right when he starts to take it off his eye black is gone, but in the previous shot it was there.

[@thetwist111]

Listened to this via KZbin with the DVD playing on my Blu-ray player. Sometime into it the youtube player froze momentarily and I had to adjust things to get it back in sync... That aside interesting commentary!!!

[@Smee319]

At the 1 hour, 41 minute mark, it always bugged me that you see a Joker goon randomly fall from the wire connected to a balloon and smashes through a sign and then the van and you see explosions. What was the point of that moment?

[@bluedragonfive]

the smilex was establised previosly durring the joker commercial joker named it,''smilex it'll give ya a grin again and again.''

[@TheSpectre235]

I don't think he was sleeping, I think he was working out.

[@jessiegreen619]

I really like this I hope at one some time soon you would do the Shadow would love here you do the commentary on it.

[@Sydpart2]

I watched this while watching the movie, it might help if one of you reads the intro credits in future videos as they appear on screen to help with the sync. I think I was about ten seconds behind you due to the different timing of my dvd while watching.

[@Geekvolution]

Thanks for the kind words! We've recorded another commentary for this weekend, and unfortunately it's not a Marvel studios film... if we have time when we meet this week, we'll definitely consider doing one of them. -CL

[@Geekvolution]

Good call-- I remember when I was a kid not being able to figure out what the heck he was saying there. I always thought he said "smiley." I had to read the script to even catch it, lol. -CL

[@Geekvolution]

I've posted a link to download the podcast in the description :) -CL

[@2JTKirk]

Joker calls his gas Smilex in his comercial. He calls it his "secret ingredient".

[@COMICFILMEXPERT]

The same thing happens in "Returns" during the scene where Selina reveals herself to Max and Bruce. "I mistook me for somebody else." I feel like this intrepretation of Batman is very much aware that he's two completely different people at any given time.

[@AwesomeBrains]

The only commercial I remember on my Batman 1989 VHS was a diet coke ad with Alfred.

[@tmthy1012]

Watched this commentary with the movie and loved it! The movie I'd would like to see you two do is Batman Returns and The Dark Knight.

[@MediaScopeReview]

I agree!! Please do more of these Captain Logan.

[@Geekvolution]

Soon, hopefully within the next month or so. -CL

[@Geekvolution]

The difference is that Luke Skywalker was at war. Batman is either a one-man army or a vigilante with a line he won't cross. It's hard to tell which of those Burton had in mind sometimes. If he definitively came out and addressed that Batman kills and that he's okay with that, I'd have less of an issue with it, even if I prefer my Batman not to kill. -CL

[@mouloudo]

wtf he's not sleeping that's a sit up device, of course that thrives on the bat image but that's just an image of course he's not sleeping upside down

[@COMICFILMEXPERT]

When Bruce tells Vicki "I'm not sure," I've come to actually intrepret it from the psychological angle of Bruce Wayne and Batman being two distinct personalities in the same body. What I mean is that up until meeting Vicki, Bruce the man has had a handle on when to fall into the role of Bruce and when to unleash Batman...but when he's caught off guard by Vicki (if we're to believe he's begun to fall in love), he's "not sure" which personality should be dominant in the situation.

[@BrowncoatAllywang]

I would really love to see you guys do a Begins or Dark Knight commentary

[@mr2000s]

"The calling of the blood", nice Blues Brothers 2000 reference Vince.

[@Fallows1985]

In reference to your discussion on the two styles of Batmens, Nolan's Batman we know so much and Burton's Batman we know little, but the thing I like is that we see Batman through Vicki Vale's eyes we learn his origins through her as she tries to find out who he is and I think in away Bruce Wayne is doing the same. The way Burton did this is what I wish he would have done with Wayne in Returns and have him still be a mystery but we learn more of his past or his motives or stuff like that

[@wwb16]

i hope you guys do more movies

[@BojanMadzarov]

@Geekvolution Vicky call it Smilex gas because when the Joker "promotes" it on TV he says SMILEX when his holding it in his hand, it's right before "blind taste test". I don't know how you missed it.

[@deanknight333]

Awesome idea, please do this for Batman begins

[@ghostwhiskey]

i wonder if they sold any warner bros. products? i never thought to call

[@iamsuperbatman1993]

If you change your original 3.5/4 rating for Batman 89, what would you change it to?

[@Geekvolution]

Oh you're right, I wish we had talked about that. I agree-- it's one of my favorites too. Lots of atmosphere :) We've got some plans and if you liked this, I think you'll be pleased! -CL

[@BooshmanLee]

Haha, it's all good dude. Of all the many hours of entertainment I've had from your channel, I feel bad that the first feedback I give you is about eating while recording. I got through the whole thing though, without the movie too, but I have seen it many a time. As you're looking for recommendations for future watches, I vote for Superman the Movie.

[@dvid22]

i have a question should bruce wayne and batman (in the movie) be played bye two different people in the films?

[@Sydpart2]

When I get the chance, I'm totally watching this.

[@Geekvolution]

Check the description if you'd like to download this podcast! -CL

[@astrostar49]

LOL wow I can't believe you two did this. Maybe I'll try following along...

[@Farmeryeti]

Hey guys, could you do Back to The Future?

[@BooshmanLee]

If you do another one of these you should have a no snacking rule. Listneing to CL scoffing peanuts isn't pleasant.

[@Geekvolution]

Yeah, that cracks me up too! -CL

[@kamdan2011]

13:50 "We don't know exactly what he did." HE KICKED A GUY THROUGH A FUCKING DOOR! Didn't you see it?

[@batfan038]

I really enjoyed this please do more

[@Geekvolution]

Nope, unfortunately it's not legal to do it that way. That's why rifftracks does their's as audio files for download, unless they do something in the public domain. -CL

[@lillie7450]

He's working out upside down. He was moving.

[@Geekvolution]

Wow, what a great point. I think the movie could have been clearer communicating that if that's what it is, but I think there's a really good chance you're right. -CL

[@freereviews344]

That was great! I watched it without the movie and still loved it

[@redleaderantilles1263]

I hate it when people say that batman killing blindly is okay cause he killed in the golden age, because in actuality he only killed for a bit of 1939 and a couple of issues in 1940. and he only killed as a last resort or throwing people off buildings without intentionally kill but wont cry over it. also bullock is a corrupt cop in the 70's, hell he was made as a bent cop who the mayor sent to get Gordon fired. also this batman just blindly kills people without compassion, i hate this batman cause he really does not seem to care for helping people.

[@RyanGill86]

Just paused the movie and podcast to say ... They DO refer to the gas as "Smile-X" in the movie earlier. During the commercial the Joker shows. "Try our new Joker Products! With our new secret ingredient - SMILE-X" Love that Joker!

[@BelatedCommiseration]

I always thought the whole purpose of Bruce wayne not giving an answer was because he was caught off card and the question 'Can you tell me which one of these guys is Bruce Wayne?' threw him because that is indeed the question. Who is Bruce Wayne? Its like Bruce Wayne is the disguise he wears rather than the Batsuit and, without even knowing it, he reveals something of his true self to Vicky Vale. It adds to the mystery and elusiveness of the character whilst also being some what throwaway.

[@spidermansidekick1]

I would love to see commentary on some Tick episodes (Animated or Live-action) before Tick Month is over.

[@mouloudo]

(still commenting live lol) and IT IS NOT A SIMPLE TRICK ( the make up thing) look at the DVD bonuses of that movie, he was really painted white with waterproof makeup which was then coated, then had a skinish makeup over it which was not waterproof so he could whipe it of!

[@kamdan2011]

In Sam Hamm's script for Batman II, it was revealed that Napier was hired to kill the Waynes because they knew the location of a hidden treasure.

[@767scarecrow]

Thank you! You are lucky because you got to watch batman tas when it originaly aired. Great show dont you think?

[@UnderdogMovies616]

A BATMAN RETURNS commentary podcast from you would be rather fascinating.

[@0ACapedCrusader0]

For the record I watched/listened to this entire thing sans the movie. I found it highly entertaining, and hope you guys continue the series. As for the next film, I think you really can't do '89 and not do Returns. (\I I/)

[@BobTheHun64]

Pointing to the 1939 comics to justify the killing doesn't work because that was only a small part of Batman's history isn't even used. Other then the killing, 89 takes stuff from the more well known batman comics.

[@UnderdogMovies616]

You sure you don't have it reversed? Nolan's Batman did a lot more detective work that Burton's did. The only detective work we see Burton's do is looking up info on the Circus Gang on the Bat Computer, and offscreen him cracking the Joker's poison code. (Though as Cap said in his review, we don't even know if he just used the Bat Computer for that).Nolan's did a lot more detective work, while this Batman was more of a reactionary force to attacks.Plus I never found it and RETURNS that intimate.

[@bluedragonfive]

Cap thank you so much and please do more like this especialy with batman or at least richard donner superman.

[@riderfan215]

Pretty sure he's working out upside down Captain

[@Geekvolution]

Hadn't even thought of that! Not a bad idea... -CL

[@COMICFILMEXPERT]

In the scene, the Joker says "Sometimes I just kill myself." There's a moment where you notice Batman taking heed of this statement before he fires the grapple. I think the intention there is that Batman creates an ultimatium for the Joker. By hooking him to the Gargoyle, he's given him the decision to either let go of the ladder and live...or just go ahead and, in his own words, "Kill myself" by not doing the sensible thing and letting go.

[@TheMclovin5150]

I'm 16 and grew up with the VHS. I love that Looney Tunes/Warner Bros. commercial.

[@BigJwlz]

@1:53 Joker's goons were up in the tower to keep an eye out for Batman.

[@riderfan215]

In an early draft, I think the Wayne killing was a mob job the 1983 Tom Mankiewicz draft

[@mrkb47]

We teenagers had VHSs too, you know

[@magpie2541]

i thought star war film and saturday night fever had the bee gees were the first to do that. but i guess it was the first superhero movie to do it

[@767scarecrow]

Hey Cap and Vince can you work out what comic book character im a big fan of? If so what are youre opinions on this character and how would you like to see him appear on screen.

[@Fallows1985]

captain logan I feel I have to tell you something that I found out this week, my ex's dad actually designed parts for the Batmobile in this film :p

[@spidermansidekick1]

Are you and Vince going to do a Ninja Turtles movie Commentary?

[@damandabest6344]

cap logan please respond but i think that dark knight is overratted it was to slow and didn't fell serious it felt like law order batman, but batman 89 i love but i dont like how he kills in film/ and i wish burton went into batman charecter more. and begins is the defenitive batman film for me what do you think.

[@Geekvolution]

We will, we will :) -CL

[@BoooRatt]

Well some of the changes I know they did to the script was the Joker as the Waynes killer and originally the Joker lead a high speed chase after during the parade that killed the Flying Graysons and orphaned Robin! It's all on that dvd I'm sure you've seen it a few million times by now! XD

[@BrowncoatAllywang]

damn, now i really want to see an Adam West Dark Knight Returns adaptation...

[@jamesedwardclard]

dug up my old VHS to watch this video :)