Batman Arkham Origins Pre-Alpha (December 6, 2012 Build) - Deathstroke Boss-Fight

[@babylonhasfallen5338]

It’s so weird but cool to see this fight with the Arkham City batsuit

[@Marchew1200]

3:59 i think this animation is cooler than in the final game

[@Akro_thymos]

Very

[@sanjayraju988]

Read my mind

[@_MaZTeR_]

I agree, the animations repeat a lot of themselves in the final build

[@Thebeatkicks]

Hell no they look less cinematic

[@oliverthedum2129]

@@Thebeatkicksit would feel more cinematic if you had more ways to attack deathstroke. The fight is fun but repeats itself a little bit

[@disneyboy3030]

I hope a Pre-Alpha of Arkahm Knight can be found someday.

[@swxtch5503]

to think that this was where the game was at less than a year before its official release goes to show you how hard of a crunch WBGames had to get this thing out. serious props to them. i wish they’d see the community has mostly shifted their opinion on Origins and give us a remastered edition :(

[@senior_sakuga]

This is pretty awesome to see the early stages of an iconic moment

[@kaltengeist]

hmmm so originally, it wasn't "Black Mask" who put a bounty on Batman's head

[@themadtitan7603]

Maybe at some point, Joker put the bounty under an anonymous identity or his own name & not Black Mask, before they opted for a surprise twist. Also I wonder if originally Penguin wasn't going to be present at Lacy Towers.

[@СерафимТоманов]

Guess it started as a Batman-Joker relationships origin, but then they wanted to make it mystery and make Black Mask fake villain. Worked for me back in the day, i truly didn't know Joker would be in the game.

[@claytonveno3710]

@@СерафимТоманов Well that don't make sense that it worked for you given all the marketing and coverage featuring The Joker.

[@claytonveno3710]

Maybe it was Black Mask (Or Joker disguised as Black Mask) and they just didn't reference him by name in this early cutscene. Perhaps "new guy" was meant to imply Black Mask and that he was the new guy in Gotham per Arkham Origins marketing?

[@basilkarlo1557]

I remember back in the day. The developers said that Black Mask was unknown by the public on who his idenity was but I guess that got changed into making it a year two story. This sounds more like a very early year Batman idk maybe i am wrong also there is a whole different dialogue from the original in game cutscene.

[@Lebonbon12346]

How is this not blown up 💀

[@indian_crocodile]

because you can play it easily

[@Samuel152]

@@Lebonbon12346 It's only been a few days.

[@FortiethDoor47]

How can you play it​@@indian_crocodile

[@HamdanullahHussain]

@@indian_crocodilehow ?

[@indian_crocodile]

@@HamdanullahHussain google

[@rdr_player8244]

Here before Arkham youtubers

[@ilikecats24-ct5nx]

Here before Clownpuncher gets here

[@Adam_X78]

He’s a fool

[@woopoganntnt7379]

@@Adam_X78deadass lmao can’t fucking stand him at all

[@PauloH100]

Me too

[@MrJAG]

@@woopoganntnt7379 what did he do?

[@woopoganntnt7379]

@ stupid fucking opinions kind of a baby on steam sometimes and just not my type of humor i guess

[@MrJAG]

That fight almost looked like a mobile game

[@ThatOneMaskedGuyOfficial]

Fr like an obscure late 2000s mobile game

[@wolfgang5895]

Ironically thier was a mobile game of the same name that also realased

[@lemontears8516]

What mobile games are you guys playing I’m trynna get on that shit

[@ThatOneMaskedGuyOfficial]

@@wolfgang5895 omg I remember that was my childhood. I wanted to revisit it but was sad when I realized it was shut down

[@Terminal_Apotos]

@@wolfgang5895I still have it downloaded on my iPhone 4S and iPad 2

[@szynkacz1069]

Damn it looks interesting. Cutscene suggests that fight was supposed to take place immediately in front of Penguin's interrogation room. Slade's mask was supposed to be punched out later and in different style, alongside many other changed animations. Batman and Penguin were supposed to comment on Slade. Also it feels strange to see City Batsuit here. Crazy how much they polished this fight with limited budget and time. Makes me appreciate Origins even more.

[@buckersjunior2355]

They could of use some of this in Arkham Knight between Deathstroke and Batman but for Rocksteady instead. Massive missed opportunity to make a new freshed out fight between the two in a higher gen console within the future of Batman's years as the Batman.

[@thedude3065]

I was hoping this would be the phase after the tank battle and they just box in the middle of the street but noooooooooo, he just tackles and punches him an a cutscene and we're done!

[@colesteadman8107]

​@@thedude3065 You people to other badly done boss fights in games: (laughs and pokes fun of it) Deathstroke Arkham Knight: (literally your guys equivalent of a popular streamer saying something racist on camera)

[@thedude3065]

@@colesteadman8107 because that's what it deserves

[@enrique6335]

I wonder if a working Deathstroke could be ported into Arkham Knight, by which I mean his movement from Arkham Origins complete with all staff animations and modders could recreat a boss fight scenario.

[@colesteadman8107]

​@@thedude3065 Hey, at least you didn't reply some brainless threat back at me when trying to compare badly done boss fights.

[@darkfall7250]

"What ARE you...?" long pause "im batman"

[@RavenShadow_yt]

I'm so glad this got recommended to me

[@Mooffgamesgamer]

Ngl this Deathstroke VA sounds better than the finalized version.

[@Wrldwide_will]

Agreed

[@Wrldwide_will]

It has a nice lil roughness too it, the present va is good cuz he has a professional tone to him as if he’s seasoned but I like this one more because it gives me gritty villain bibes

[@sonicmoore6196]

Agree. His voice in Arkham Origins was pretty weak I don’t understand why they couldn’t get Ron Pearlman to voice the character.

[@JustinCage56]

Disagree. This one sounds too generic, while the one we got sounds more grounded and seasoned.

[@romansionis2470]

​@@sonicmoore6196 I thought his voice in Arkham Origins was great. Definitely my favourite voice actor for Deathstroke along with Ron Pearlman.

[@HartLysander]

This is honestly Amazing! BTW Man, those Arkham based Channels mentioned this at all?!

[@NovaVortex193]

"I'm not playing games, Slade."

[@TheKanistan]

the batsuit in the cutscenes is more consistent with arkham asylum, dont know why they changed that. face looks a lot more like he did in the origins cinematic reveal trailer, which is also closer to asylum but makes sense that they changed it to be more like arkham city’s superior retconned bruce face.

[@theotherguy21]

Its the city suit and face here in the fight origins was legitimately a lazy rebuild mostly using alot of things from city

[@brandonthomas8839]

@@theotherguy21I wouldn’t say it’s a Lazy rebuild at all. They where tasked to make an Arkham game and given pre-existing assets. Not unlike City with Asylum. Yet despite that they managed to give the whole game its own vibe and look even in familiar locations as well as build an entirely new part of the City to explore. They improved the combat from city including more unique enemy types aswell as having some of the best boss fights in the whole series. Aswell as adding a unique spin on a gadget or two. It’s clear that Origins was made by people who have a great passion for Batman and the Arkham series. So no it’s not Lazy at all. They worked with what they where given and worked more on it that still added freshness

[@theotherguy21]

@brandonthomas8839 its a somewhat lazy build it's not their fault tho wb legitimately gave them a time crunch and a time they NEEDED to get the game out considering city game out in 2011 and origins came out in 2013 it wasn't terrible

[@brandonthomas8839]

@ also WB wanted to release something before announcing Knight. I still wouldn’t call it Lazy tho using that same Logic you might aswell say God Of War Ragnarok is a Lazy build of the previous one or most sequels to a Game

[@TheKanistan]

@@brandonthomas8839 nobody called the devs lazy, the point is that the end product is a lazy sequel. having said that, it’s not clear at all to me that everyone on the team (especially the people who conceptualised/“greenlit” origins) were passionate about making an arkham game. i’m sure the writers for arkham Shadow were PaSsIoNaTe about writing good dialogue for their game, unfortunately they failed.

[@ace_tamashii2082]

woah this is cool I love seeing the pre alphas of games

[@TheBatman39]

Gotham Paladin will for sure do a video on this gameplay. I wonder if this Alpha can be playable to see all of the content that was scrapped from Arkham Origins.

[@michaelwazowski6698]

Wow they put in a lot of thought and work into this W devs my respect goes to all of them o7

[@Samuel152]

Interesting that Batman chatted with Slade during the fight. It's kind of unlike him, to be honest.

[@Ayyothatsbrandogaming]

Idk he’s younger, way younger, in this game so he’s more arrogant and cocky. It checks out imo

[@pleaseenteraname2311]

This is really cool to see.

[@raaviolli]

It's so cool that they just used the Arkham City Batman for the pre-alpha lol

[@BuryTheLight-tds]

Deathstroke: It appears the game is over before it even begins. Batman: I'm not playing games, Slay- **gets bonked in the head**

[@mylaberry6502]

This is what the actual deathstroke fight should have been in arkham knight AND the arkham knight fight. Killer croc was the only one who felt like a boss fight in that game.

[@Akro_thymos]

The camera looks a lot better

[@johnjoejeeny7373]

Isn't Knerd working on a cut content video about boss fights?🧐 Somebody share this with him.

[@BuryTheLight-tds]

He's making a video about cut boss fights and not cut content of boss fights as far as I'm aware.

[@johnjoejeeny7373]

@BuryTheLight-tds I just looked at his post and I think it's both

[@Hi_Just_Fred]

Batman: *You're getting slow.*

[@swiftchancellor159]

Imagine we got a better version of this fight in Arkham Knight.

[@DannsProductions]

You did. The fight is literally copied from Arkham City. Remember the fight with Ra's Al Ghul, this is the same fight as that.

[@swiftchancellor159]

@DannsProductions that fight is literally nothing like this. They only similarity is the phase transitions. How did you even come to that conclusion lol

[@brandonthomas8839]

@@DannsProductionsNot at all it has one feature re used which is when Slade attacks you multiple time and you keep countering until you can do a beat down. Other than that this fight is nothing like that boss fight

[@colesteadman8107]

Swearing compilation vids: (Make repetitive jokes about Vivziepop's writing) GTA vids: (Overuse the word "Defective" because D.E bad) Batman Arkham vids featuring Deathstroke: (Get offended about a bad boss fight for the millionth time) What other stupid patterns do you people have?

[@swiftchancellor159]

@colesteadman8107 oh I'm allowed to talk about something I want how ever many times I want. Whether you got a problem with it or not, I dont give a fuck.

[@АлександрАдмаев-ю1л]

I'll go through Arkham City and start Origins just in time for Christmas.

[@Blckztr]

Obviously needs more polish, but i like the art direction here better, specially in the cinematic, loos nore consistent eith Arkham Asylum/City, the final origins game was more "vibrant" and almost looks out of place with the other games

[@TorturedMongoose2003]

I prefer that voice for slade in the clip, its intimidating.

[@Friendly_Neighborhood_Qrock]

0:56 Lmao 😂 forget the gliding bruh just landed instead 1 cm below him "Ooo scary" 😂 Intense music too lol

[@SarcasticBlueJay26]

11 unused animations. I suppose Batman did look a little floppy but he was more careless back then

[@waitinguntilthemorningcomes]

Interesting find. I like how Batman was originally planned to shittalk Deathstroke during the 1v1 lmao.

[@melxnnedits]

it wouldve been interesting to see penguin talking while batman and slade fought

[@Samuel152]

Also interesting to see Batman talk during the fight.

[@sonicmoore6196]

Actually I’m glad Penguin doesn’t have dialogue cause it would take the tension out of this fight and it might be annoying.

[@melxnnedits]

@@Samuel152 batman not talking makes sense

[@Samuel152]

​@@melxnnedits I know, and I'm glad he didn’t talk in the final version of the fight.

[@thedude3065]

I like that they made Penguin a spectator

[@darksheep1575]

He also watches the fight on retail, but doesn't comment anything

[@sonicmoore6196]

Penguin along with Candy and Tracey watch the fight in the final version but they don’t have no dialogue which I’m glad cause it would be annoying and might ruin the fight.

[@Anderson-vj8sh]

so cool to see that originally the cutscenes (and perhaps gameplay?) would have had similar colour grading to arkham asylum and city. I honsetly prefer this over the colour grading in the final game, which generally looks king of grey and boring, this had that dark and dramatic kind of feel that asylum and city had

[@darksheep1575]

Yeah, I feel the same.

[@scronch355]

Cool how his suit used to look more like the asylum suit

[@damianwayne8229]

the camera-work some how better than the final result wut???

[@themadtitan7603]

This is is very intriguing where did you find this build? Also why is the background after Deathstroke pulls Batman outside of the office one of the predator rooms but then changes to the gladiatorial arena?

[@huytungnguyen119]

Probably they were working on pre-render cutscenes while the gameplay team using placeholders arena and Batman's City model.

[@yungcees3317]

BRUH THIS INSANE

[@MegamiImperatrix]

Different voice actor for Slade?

[@tomimpala]

Devs usually use their own voice or a computer while they're still making it

[@someonewhocommentsonyoutub3779]

Most likely a random employee doing a placeholder

[@movieclipshd8020]

Troy Baker

[@sanjayraju988]

Better than the final one.

[@Retr0_d]

Looks better than most games

[@muffinman2946]

Do you have more cutscenes from this build? It's very interesting because it seems like Black Mask wasn't supposed to be the disguise of Joker.

[@darksheep1575]

I'll post more footage of gameplay with different story plots, and some documentation regarding cut content soon!

[@illyaismaili6413]

​@@darksheep1575 Do you have any footage of the cut whiteout weather effect?

[@vurdumduymazlarinhukumdarligi]

A lot better than the usual game

[@capedcrusader7080]

Cinema Absoluto.

[@mattthegoat606]

Concordo

[@thiagofoliveira]

AO is really, at this core, just a modded AC.

[@AZITHEMLGPRO]

So underrated

[@volt3858]

¿bro who delated my comentary where i responde to someone of how the builds are aveable to play, you or youtube?

[@disneyboy3030]

I wonder how the build got out to the public.

[@_MaZTeR_]

"New guy" lol

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

We could’ve worn the Arkham City suit in the main game.

[@maximocapcom]

Well in the Online you could.

[@darksheep1575]

I'm wearing the Arkham City skin in the video, because the default skin has corrupted assets, and they can mess the graphics

[@PauloH100]

Hey, do you plan on posting more cutscenes and gameplays of this version? It's really interesting to see what you were originally thinking for the story. Are the shock gloves there for some technical reason or would Batman really get them much sooner? Maybe on the first encounter with the owner Also, here before any Arkham KZbinr

[@darksheep1575]

I do plan to release more videos, mostly for documentation purposes, and to showcase the cut content in the game as well. Shock Gloves are only there because of the upgrades cheat.

[@Mustfears2016]

Yk I thought there was a Batman game that had a giaint death stroke robot type thingy I swear I saw it but I think I might’ve been dreaming

[@Fcabb]

cool vid

[@tricky7153]

This looks like Batman Arkham origins black gate

[@TheKanistan]

why is the resolution stretched horizontally

[@xolbrok7469]

how did you enter this fight? Debug menu ?

[@tyleroutland435]

I doubt this footage is real of the pre

[@darksheep1575]

🤷‍♂️

[@Samuel152]

Do you have anything to disprove it?

[@renandantas9660]

Hey Darksheep, I called you in discord few weeks ago, I have a doubt that maybe you can clarify

[@Jokuthesaiyangod]

I’m here

[@CEO_OF_BELLIC_ENTERPRISES]

arkham asylum batman model would of looked so much cooler lol

[@scronch355]

Cool

[@vokejaronwoods3050]

It looks like an 2006 game

[@vokejaronwoods3050]

And I like the combat more

[@Aaroniswompwomp]

That's why it's called a PRE-ALPHA. 😵‍💫💀

[@theczechgreenninja]

It's almost as if this is an unfinished version, weird tho right??

[@Aaroniswompwomp]

@@theczechgreenninja fr that's so weird.

[@smellyghoul]

arkham city character model

[@DannsProductions]

The fight was copied from Arkham City, that's why the Batman model is there, they just switched the setting. Remember the fight with Ra's Al Ghul, this is the same fight as that. Most of Arkham Origins is mostly taken from Arkham City.

[@smellyghoul]

@@DannsProductions yeahh i remember, honestly the fight is better in origins without all the psycho hallucinations

[@darksheep1575]

​​@@DannsProductionsknow that Arkham City Batman is also in Arkham Knight as a leftover asset, same thing can be said about Asylum Batman being in Arkham City.

[@Samuel152]

​@@DannsProductions Only one or two animations was copied from the Rās Al Ghūl fight. The rest was made from scratch.

[@michaelscott4349]

So actually a copy/paste of arkham city character model with a new skin. Nice to know the rumors were true

[@TheKanistan]

of course they were going to use the previous game as a base, every arkham sequel would have been built that way. unfortunately the final product didnt end up being very original💀

[@michaelscott4349]

@@TheKanistan yeah but if you played origins back in the day you know how identical it was in comparisson to city. Lots and lots of reuses.

[@TheKanistan]

@@michaelscott4349 yeah i agreed with u. it was a poorly conceived, disingenuously marketed, unoriginal, overhyped, janky rearrangement of arkham city in many ways. despite what droves of idiots in modern arkham comment sections will say.

[@michaelscott4349]

@@TheKanistanI agree with you. Dude remember back in the day when rocksteady devs refused to accept origins as part of the arkhamverse? Then knight came with those stupid easter eggs and quotes that made origins canon.

[@TheKanistan]

@@michaelscott4349 i vaguely remember, but not sure if the community agreed with that at the time. and the glazing of arkham origins has only grown every few years unfortunately. to be frank, i feel the same way about arkham knight, for different reasons. not many people agree, but knight was a complete mess, other than the stuff copied from city.