Batman: The Killing Joke - Caravan of Garbage

We have come to an end of our Alan Moore-athon with one of the most misguided attempts at adaptation, Batman: The Killing Joke from 2016. Despite having the likes of Paul Dini, Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill lending their skills it falls flat in almost all ways. Animation, interpretation, additions, it's bizarre. But luckily at the end we also look at a good thing in the Justice League Unlimited episode For The Man Who Has Everything to wrap everything up. Thanks for listening to our Caravan Of Garbage review!
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[@RyanAmnell]

What's really interesting is that Alan Moore really wanted superman to dream of a simple fulfilling life of being a farmer like his adoptive father in Smallville. With his advanced alien knowledge of planet hues and how they associate to the peak of level of growth, he made a unique plant desgin to be a combination of cyan and magenta. This was why his yearly yield of products was called the blue harvest.

[@poopbone666]

Goddamn it hahaha

[@JaqenHghar.]

That's good lol

[@winterbreezesrule9583]

Oh this GOT me

[@FinnA9X]

bravo

[@novakrabby]

I'd been *H A R V E S T ' D*

[@rjScubaSki]

Nick Mason: Glue Harvest

[@jakubmakalowski6428]

Rodney!

[@fourthdrawerdown6297]

BOOM

[@kevthepoet]

Who is Laurence and why is he in the hospital?

[@tjlpancake]

Yes

[@molberding5]

Little-known fact: that was actually the working title for Caravan of Garbage

[@hylianglitchmobber7570]

I just realized that the Killing Joke wasn't long enough to make a whole Caravan of Garbage video so you guys tacked on an Allen Moore subplot. Cinematic parallels done right

[@TheBrightlightlion]

😂 that’s genius

[@murlocaggrob2192]

They glued it on*

[@CLDJ227]

Much like how the movie wasn't long enough to be in theaters or the comic wasn't long enough to be adapted.

[@ItsTheCos]

I'm sure this has been mentioned but I really enjoy the little detail of Kevin Conroy voicing Joe Chill, implying that Batman still subconsciously sees himself as the reason his parents died

[@AndreNitroX]

I never knew that was Kevin conroy, but in some way that is poetic

[@serpentxblessed]

Holy crap.

[@TheRedAzuki]

In the Harley Quinn show they explicitly points it out, even

[@jayinsult]

@@TheRedAzuki The Harley series, for as much as it plays fast and loose for humor, sometimes swerves into devastating emotion. That episode you're talking about might be the first portrayal of the Wayne murders in many years that actually made me FEEL for Bruce Wayne's trauma.

[@tomtripp5417]

Rip Conroy, the one true batman

[@stanley5745]

Fun fact, "grab that gem" became his catchphrase after Mason glued his hand to a gem

[@Trey-dp6tl]

The gem was blue so the working title of that episode was 'blue harvest"

[@luckyspurs]

It took me so many episodes to realise that was what he was saying.

[@CriticsCupofficial]

Uh god dmmit 😊

[@Mordoras1379]

@@luckyspurs I was hearing grab that gym

[@dr.loomis4221]

oh what a fun joke that piggyback's of their joke...very fun

[@adamquenano8563]

It pains me that this the last time both these voice actors worked together.

[@itayeldad3317]

There was Justice league action.

[@Gamingturtle090]

Actually LEGO DC Super-Villains is the last time they worked together. That was 2018 whilst this was 2016, though I may be wrong as there could be something else

[@krombabulusmichael]

eh cut off the problematic first half and you've still got the great dynamic at the end when the two argue/fight/joke with each other

[@marvelfantasy472]

@@Gamingturtle090 They were both in Kevin Smith He-Man and they played Batman and Joker in Scooby Doo guess Who? Which at the earliest in 2019.

[@Gamingturtle090]

@@marvelfantasy472 so currently the last project (that this comment thread knows of) they both worked in is a Scooby Doo episode that aired September 19th 2019. Weirdly fitting in my opinion

[@spartanB0292]

Bruce Timm's obsession with ruining the Dick-Barbara-Bruce dynamic has always been so confusing. The one big stain on an otherwise stellar version of the DC universe.

[@Kango234]

Yeah this movie along with some other decisions has made it so I'm not automatically excited to see his name on stuff anymore.

[@georgehernandez2156]

To be fair it makes sense, since that started in batman beyond.

[@qwellen7521]

If his wife irl is half his own age; everything makes sense now.

[@dylanherron3963]

@@georgehernandez2156 I loved Batman Beyond. I was also 10 years old, so the "fresh look" was fittingly edgy for the year 2000 or so (maybe 1999, I don't remember). Also being a kid, I had nothing of a mind to compare and anthologize the different Batman works thru the years, I was just happy I had a cool cartoon to watch at 7 pm after dinner. (I had JUST gotten my own Orion 12" CRT with built-in VCR, {fancyyy} so no more having to sit with Mom to watch Law/Order LMAO)

[@thewerewolff7248]

its less confusing when you realise bruce timm has a thing for red heads and that bruce wayne has the same first name as him... Putting two and two together h's essential using batman as a stand in for himself, because he thinks batgirl is hot and wants to bang her. I'm fairly certain hes drawn nsfw artwork of batgirl too but i may be wrong about that. He defiantly has drawn nsfw art of red heads tho.

[@ClintonMatos]

"And Batman's not glued to a single thing, is he?" "Well his eyes are glued to this wonderful spectacle."

[@phillyredsox9195]

A Weekend at Bernie’s style Killing Joke sequel where Batman is glued to the corpse of the Joker and he has to navigate the worlds of both Batman and Bruce Wayne is exactly what I always wanted to see, but never knew I wanted.

[@MissYamIherexxx]

That sounds like the perfect thing for Junji Ito to draw

[@tomtripp5417]

Last knight on earth from the black label line. You’re welcome.

[@BenM.Davies]

Usually, in these videos, the ending theme is supposed to sound like "The Weekly Planet" syllables played on the guitar, but given that Maso stuck his hand to the video at the end, this one sounds more like "It's not coming off, it's not coming off."

[@eldeadkilljohnkennedy3946]

The Batman Killing Joke was so bad Warner Bros have to make an apology saying will never do this ever again.

[@crongusclips7836]

It’s Mason!

[@itayeldad3317]

It was a decent 48 minutes movie adaptation that starts when batman comes with bullock to investigate a crime scene, im glad that where the movie starts and there is nothing before that point

[@gorvarhadgarson5227]

Definitely not an awkward sex scene between a mentor and one of his bat children.

[@moonwhooper]

@@gorvarhadgarson5227 no no, that would be silly and inappropriate

[@Finamajig]

@@moonwhooper it would be weird gross and bad yes! Thank goodness that is not a thing that happened

[@Clay3613]

It's not that bad.

[@Clay3613]

@@gorvarhadgarson5227 Weirdo over here calling adults Bat children.

[@FlashNeko417]

The whole "Bruce and Barbra had a romance at some point" seems to be a thing Bruce Timm is REALLY into as it was hinted at building in The New Batman and Superman Adventures and Batman Beyond was post that relationship happening. But at least in the case of Beyond it was implied it was mostly one-sided as a "school girl crush meets mid-life crisis" kind of thing, a VERY bad EXTREMELY messy idea, and mutually cut-off by both of them BEFORE it escalated to the point they were having angry rooftop sex. And Timm might have only been stopped back in the day from letting them go that far because S&P was still on him enough to say, "You can't imply a 30/40-year old man and a barely legal teen did the Horizontal Batusi!" Honestly, I'm kind of surprised Timm didn't add Harley Quinn to the story to hit the rest of his fetishes.

[@mbogucki1]

I do believe Bruce got Barbra pregnant and she had a miscarriage in the DCAU or tie in comics.

[@ItsOver9000Productions]

@@mbogucki1 that happened

[@siobibble9078]

@@mbogucki1 that’s apart of the earth 12 continuity I believe. Which is not actual dcau canon

[@PETHRIS]

oh god, let's not think about the Batman and Harley Quinn movie

[@mr.protagonist5639]

Um I have some bad news for you. They didn't cut it off. The tie-in comics basically explain that Barbara cheated on dick with Bruce and got pregnant which led to dick finding out leading to the destruction of the bat family.

[@FrozenCrisis]

The Rodney super cut literally makes me burst out laughing every time without fail

[@Trey-dp6tl]

One of my coworkers is named Rodney and I can't say his name without at least smiling and trying not to chuckle a little because I think of the Rodney super cut

[@kenip9800]

It's like the "Vincent Adultman" gag in Bojack Horseman in that it shouldn't keep working, but it does.

[@RavenTheVelociraptor]

It's so very good and also funny.

[@unforgiven_91]

did you know that the working title for the Rodney supercut was Blue Harvest?

[@FrozenCrisis]

@@unforgiven_91 because of how blue in the face it makes me, I have to go out to harvest for some fresh air, this is where the title blue harvest came from which was the working title of the Rodney Super cut, which coincidentally is the working title for Star Wars

[@cyborgrex]

I always loved in “For the man who has everything” the great little touch where Jor-El briefly talks in the voice of Pa Kent.

[@AndreNitroX]

Yes it shows that even in Superman’s perfect world he would include his earth friends and family in some form.

[@luckyspurs]

So it's the rare case of an Alan Moore adaptation where there wasn't enough material to stick in a 2 hour movie.

[@ASpooneyBard]

And instead of cutting essential material that fleshes out the characters and world for running time, it adds a bunch of crap that actively damages characterization and world-building for padding. It really is the anti-Watchmen, isn't it?

[@PETHRIS]

shoulda brought more glue then

[@jxshram]

The dedication to the blue harvest bit is incredible. Just when I think it's run its course, it comes back

[@AndreNitroX]

I look forward to it

[@GonzoCiosain]

Now that we have The Batman Who Laughs, we need a standalone series of The Batman Who Glues Himself To Things.

[@grantmoore8228]

I've said it before, they should've focused on Batgirl's origin instead of that incredibly frustrating opening involving Paris Franz. Show Barbara's first night out as Batgirl where she saves her father at a Halloween party. That way, you can show the audience how fun it is to be a superhero and then juxtapose it with the rest of the movies nihilism.

[@phillanderson434]

So it’s so clear that their goal with all the batgirl stuff was an attempt to subvert one of the go to examples of fridging. And they somehow make it more sexist. Why make her character even more dependent on the men in her life if you trying to subvert the sexist trope of doing that.

[@RacingSnails64]

Lol good point! Thank you, so true. Her first half really should have just been her helping stop Joker to make him paralyzing her out of revenge.

[@sjbrooksy45]

@@RacingSnails64 Did the Joker even know who she was or did he just think he was shooting Barbara Gordon?

[@jeffchad6481]

@@sjbrooksy45 he was trying to make Gordon go insane

[@bensneb360]

I always thought they should’ve made the first part Batgirl when she was first starting out and teaming up with Batman to help stop the Joker. But we never actually see the Joker, he’s always just off screen or shrouded in shadows or fog when Batman fights him and it’s all from Barbara’s point of view, so when we finally see him is more momentous. And Batman is reluctant to work with her and she’s nervous about taking on such a responsibility and burden of crime fighting, but over the segment she grows confidence in her abilities and skills and Batman grows to respect her as a crime fighter… so that way when she gets shot, it’s more tragic and gut punch like “oh no, she was so good at her job and she was so happy, this sucks”… it’s better than rooftop sex lol

[@hollandscottthomas]

^^ This is an infinitely better expansion to the story than what we actually got.

[@Funky_Player2]

Most things would've been better than what they actually went with, especially this. Nice job.

[@li-limandragon9287]

Absolutely, there’s a great line in Hush comic where Batman talks about how much Barbara enjoyed being Batgirl and how much it crushed her to be robbed of that livelihood. It shouldn’t be about any weird and creepy romance with Bruce, it should be about how Barbara enjoyed being a hero and how good she was at it and how horrible it was that it got taken away from her.

[@craiglee5460]

Could you imagine if Moore actually responded to the statements/questions posed by these two Australian savants? Mind blowing 🤯

[@rim7115]

Clever work naming the "Green Trivia" segment after Joker's hair colour

[@thewerewolff7248]

no mason you're right. they explicitly reference the events of killing joke in death in the family. Its stated to be the last thing joker did before getting sent to arkham (before he escapes in death in the family) and barbara is shown to be in a wheelchair at Jason's funeral. Him crippling barbara is part of the reason the response to joker's escape from law enforcement is shown to be extreme enough that he is forced to flee the country. They even mention the justice league is actively searching for him.

[@staidenofanarchy]

I have no idea what Alan Moore would do with an Adam West style Batman, but by god I'd pay a lot of money to see it

[@jayinsult]

The musical sting and the spinning onscreen text "HAVING SEX WITH BATMAN" destroyed me. And that was even before the glue runner. Ben and Laurence deserve a Nobel Prize for this one!

[@thescottishaccent]

The "It's just seeeeex!" cry near the start made me curl up with cringe so quickly that I ended up with a similar spinal injury to that which Babs experienced.

[@AndreNitroX]

My God I never thought I would hate batgirl for being a dump, but here we are

[@ASpooneyBard]

It's been a while since I've laughed at anything as much as the part at 20:57. Just reading that text on screen while Mason rambles about nonsense. Everything came together just right.

[@emperorbailey]

I had to pause for a minute for my own laughter at the editors' cry for help, after Mason's 50th "glued to something" joke.

[@jordanhillas6]

I’ve just paused to read it and I’m crying laughing at it 😂

[@under-._.-score]

Bruce Timm stated that he was inspired by twilight’s imprinting lore. In that it made everyone say yuck/why do this?

[@AndreNitroX]

Just let it go Timm

[@johnb6736]

Shout out to Ben and Laurence for finding that hacky sack video and creating the Rodney supercut, you guys are amazing.

[@CentaurWorks]

I literally jumped for joy when I saw they were reviewing "For the man who has everything"

[@AndreNitroX]

I know it was like dessert. That episode is my favorite because it is the perfect blend of action and heart aching moments.

[@user-gw3bs2in5i]

You don't know how badly I want the "I've glued myself" bit to become a running thing now. Even though it probably won't, I can dream.

[@IBrowneeI]

The whole reason for the first half of the movie with Batgirl is that they planned on following 'The Killing Joke' as accurately as they could. But the problem, by the creators of this logic, is that anyone that (somehow) hadn't read, seen or heard of how the story goes, might be at a loss for who Barbara is, because they don't actually mention 'Batgirl' in the story. So their logic was add to the runtime with an extra story of their own making purely just to set up in peoples heads that Batgirl is a thing. And she's Barbara. That way you know the significance of the Joker just getting wildly lucky in shooting the woman that turned out to be Batgirl. In theory, it's not a bad idea. Problem was that original story to start the movie really just butchers Batgirl as a character and is all around awful. Like, you can practically _feel_ the quality difference on your brain between the first half and second half. So yeah, you suffer it once. If you somehow didn't know Barbara was Batgirl, you do now. From here on you can skip right the hell over that awful first segment and get right to the actual Killing Joke story.

[@VelocitrapLords]

Watching it fresh and with the “controversy” in mind, it’s really hard not to notice how leering the camera is with Batgirl/Barbara even before her interactions with Franz & Batman. The first act actively damages the “One Bad Day” thesis statement in that the Joker flashbacks (or atleast delusions of a flashback) feel even further out of place in this amalgamation. They built sympathy for a character that was already sympathetic instead of their Devil.

[@JohnSmith-yd5wq]

The problem is the THE KILLING JOKE comic is overrated trash if the first place.

[@nagger8216]

@@JohnSmith-yd5wq I wouldn't say it's trash, but it's definitely overrated

[@VelocitrapLords]

@@nagger8216 right place, right time, right excessive level of shock value maybe? Don’t think you could get an editor saying “yeah, cripple the bitch” now. Young Justice wanted to do a Batgirl to Oracle story and did it with infinitely more taste and substance. KJ also has some now iconic art panels in it

[@li-limandragon9287]

@IBrowneel Honestly though the actual Killing Joke portion isn’t particularly well adapted either and actually removes great little details from the comic.

[@alexander0the0gray]

2:56 I was NOT prepared for that hacky sack trick shot 😂

[@RumbleBee1102]

That episode of JLU is one of my favs. It's so heartbreaking and powerful. Batman trying his hardest to free Superman while Wonder Woman is just getting beat to death, is probably one of the most intense moments of the show. I honestly feel like it could have even been a two-parter

[@AndreNitroX]

It’s honestly the perfect episode, a lot of humanity in all the characters, non stop action, dreams, tearful goodbyes and hope in the end. This is one of the few shows that can make me cry.

[@li-limandragon9287]

On a scale of bad decisions, I think having Batman and Batgirl bone is up there up filling the Hindenburg With Hydrogen

[@surlycanadian]

Well, the US pretty much owned all the helium in the world at the time so the Zeppelin Company was shit out of luck. Even if that weren’t the case though, what gas it used for lift is irrelevent since just as many helium-lift airships crashed as hydrogen-lift airships.

[@epicbruhmoment6985]

I guess my real take away from all of this is that Mongul has Superman's shipping address.

[@KRJF61]

Despite its shortcomings, anything with Kevin Conroy (Rest in Peace) and Mark Hamill is going to check the boxes for me.

[@eldeadkilljohnkennedy3946]

We will never forget you Kevin Conroy you always the dark Knight.

[@dupersuper1938]

Even if it has them voicing garbage? It seems insulting to them, if anything.

[@elliswebster7041]

@@dupersuper1938people enjoying their work, even if what they’re working in isn’t the best, how is that an insult?

[@dupersuper1938]

@@elliswebster7041 Hoe do you know Hamill enjoyed it? This was the only thing he said at the time that he'd come back for, and they screwed it up royally.

[@elliswebster7041]

@@dupersuper1938 I meant the fans

[@SirAsdf]

I'm gonna say it, any time a show or movie makes Batman hook up with Batgirl will always be creepy, and gross, and wrong.

[@gorvarhadgarson5227]

So very wrong!

[@luccag2672]

Lego Batman?

[@isaackelly2983]

I like to think that every week Ben goes through all of Man Thing again to assemble the Rodney Super Cut

[@rikorobinson]

That scene where the Joker pulls a gun on Batman, pulls the trigger and it ends up being one of his harmless bang-flag guns, and he looks at it with mild disappointment and says, "Oh, God dammit..." I lost it. One of the funniest Joker moments of all time to me.

[@TF2CrunchyFrog]

A classic "hoist by his own petard" scene.

[@AndreNitroX]

Return of the joker really made me think it was the harpoon gun

[@JimboDoomface]

20:04 batmans fucking face as he lives out his happy place of watching chill get wailed on is hilarious.

[@marcuswalters8093]

The re-colouring REALLY works well, by the way. I love it.

[@mss11235]

I love Laurence's (or is it Ben's covering?) plea... Almost as much as I love knowing Nick Mason will NEVER stop this style humor.

[@jayinsult]

Not to be pedantic, M8, but I believe it's Ben's plea, as Laurence was in hospital at the time...

[@mss11235]

@@jayinsult I read the description, which I guess is probably erroneous, but I definitely believe you. Thanks for the correction. I hope he is doing well.

[@jayinsult]

@@mss11235 The thing about Laurence being in hospital came up in text on the screen, and I believe it was all part of the joke...apologies all around if this was not clear, M8! I was merely going with the gag...as far as I know all the gang are in good health.

[@benphillips2947]

I actually prefer the JLU version of "For the Man Who Has Everything" to the comic. The elements of society splintering political unrest on Krypton muddy the appeal of the beautiful dream reality for Superman. The more simplistic version in JLU makes it much more obvious why Superman would actually want to stay in black mercy's lie and as a result it hits way harder when he has to reject it.

[@pious83]

They likely also had to leave Batman's dream as Thomas Wayne beating on Joe Chill. Since they already did a Batman version of this story with Madhatter in TAS.

[@AndreNitroX]

Agreed to this day I cry when Superman says to his son “he will never forget”

[@fearloathingingeneral2877]

The original Killing Joke doesn't have anything to do with Barbara aside from being shot. Joker had no clue she was Batgirl. It's not about Batman really, Jokers plan is to mess up Gordon. So I'm sure, that after the studio actually read the book they decided to make it about the person who was most affected by the story.

[@bibbyboxx2219]

Yeah. But I don’t think turning her into a love interest really helped that much.

[@fearloathingingeneral2877]

@@bibbyboxx2219 no! Not at all!

[@TacticusPrime]

It makes sense to put more focus on Batgirl. It doesn't make sense to make it a "hot for teacher" character assassination.

[@guyincognito5320]

Because of Bruce's eyes continuously being glued to his daddy beating up Joe, For The Man Who Has Everything was originally called Glue Harvest, which funnily enough was the working title for My Little Pony.

[@ISBuckley8]

The running joke of Batman getting glued to Joker was hilarious

[@ponderosabones7803]

We all know Bruce Timm was just trying to shoe-horn in his weird ship/fanfiction

[@FlynnTheRedhead]

Maybe the real Killing Joke were the Alan Moore properties we ruined along the way

[@AndreNitroX]

I like how you twisted the whole quote

[@goodtaste2185]

It may be nostalgia talking but Justice League Unlimited was really the peak of the DC fandom in animated form.

[@cngotham4111]

Idk if it was peak but it was certainly was a great show. Basically all the animated shows before then where good. Jl,btas, superman,static shock.

[@tanepukenga1421]

@@cngotham4111 People were still taking risks then instead of sticking only to a formula. They also weren't treating kids like they were as fragile as they're treated now, they trusted the kids to be able to parse out adult situations. Batman Beyond, Gargoyles, JL, JLU, Static shock, all of them had big adult themes they explored without making them "adult". A little trust in the audience goes a long way

[@Phartan117]

I loved the character of Batman-who-glues-himself-to-things! Had me in stitches! Well done lads.

[@ComicsFromScratch]

Halfway through this week, I actually got a craving for the Rodney supercut like I would a cigarette.

[@alexanderguerrero347]

Rodney

[@aidenbobak2577]

How many more episodes before the in-jokes make the trivia segment completely inaccessible to new audiences? I love it, keep up the great work

[@luckyasmr1374]

Fun Fact: When a human being is killed, the body sometimes will start to turn blue due to the nature of the killing, which is funny because the working title for Star Wars was Blue Harvest.

[@SciontheDark]

I've never stopped reading something faster.

[@owensreviews625]

Looks like we’re going from an Alan mooreathon to a James Cameronathon. Hype. Also, is the glue yourself to stuff going to be a recurring gag like Blue Harvest or “Rodney!” Or is it going to be a one in done for this episode.?

[@wcgcapone]

We'll have to see if it sticks.

[@ArchahcrA]

stick around to find out edit: dammit got beaten to it

[@JomasterTheSecond]

My favourite part of the Killing Joke was when The Joker said "I'm the Joker, baby!" and then shot Barbara Gordon on the Sex Roof

[@mongeeses7112]

I absolutely adore Justice League Unlimited. I know it’s not perfect, but I don’t care, it’s a cartoon I always like going back to. It was the only DCAU show I saw as a kid and that was before I even got into comics. I’ve seen more since, but JLU’s dialogue and tone still get to me. Would love to see you guys cover more JLU stuff. P.S. the Hawk and Dove episode is underrated imo. Also hearing the intro song just makes me so happy and excited lol.

[@AndreNitroX]

Likewise, for me the DCAU is the only DC comics I really need. I am so obsessed with the show that I binge watch it all once a year. My favorite episode is actually for the man who has everything but after that I love “The Return”.

[@TheTeleporter101]

I will never not laugh audibly at the Rodney super cut 😂

[@zulium]

I think Alan Moore once said his favorite Watchmen adaptation was the Harry Partridge "Saturday Morning Watchmen" and that just makes me happy

[@alexanderguerrero347]

It is the superior watchmen adaptation no others can compare to it.

[@RedHeadKevin]

"Strong together, United forever, they're the best of frieeennds!"

[@craggylotus]

love the consideration of Clark's trauma at coming out of the "perfect world" dream. It was touched on a little in House Of M with Spider-Man but not as much as I'd have liked. Sadly with comics there's always a new thing coming along quickly so they rarely delve into the consequences of things like this.

[@ryancox4498]

I've always felt that the way to extend "The Killing Joke" to feature length is to stick "A Death in the Family" in there. Having Joker kill a Robin fits with the theme of messing with Batman's allies.

[@ZeroBusterXX]

I really never got Timm's obsession with the Bruce/Babs pairing. He'd never sleep with someone he was in a position of power over. And he'd never screw Dick over like that.

[@joebalusikiii5811]

Perhaps Bruce Timm would if he had the opportunity. Or it could be Timm's not so secret 🌽 fantasy

[@ZeroBusterXX]

@@joebalusikiii5811 No crazier than some of John Byrne's fantasies I suppose

[@TheTacoDoctor]

I hate that this isn't Bruce Timm's only attempt to make Batman and Batgirl do a big sex. I saw Killing Joke in theaters, you know what reaction that moment got? Laughter. Nervous, unsettled laughter. So uncomfortable.

[@garrettnokes3857]

You all should do the old old James Bond movies. Connery, Moore, Dalton… Maybe Lazenby…

[@Thereviewguy2]

17:20 The way James says "it's in the snow as well" sends me every time

[@Infisly]

The Killing Joke wasn't long enough, so James and Mason had to attach another story onto it. I see what's going on here.

[@KaipitainKai]

There was a comic published just before the Killing Joke titled "The Last Batgirl Story" and I really wonder why they didn't just adapt that for the prologue

[@boredbitch666]

that makes perfect sense but no bruce timm had to put in fan fic in his digusting grooming ship

[@jayharyu927]

That thomas wayne beating up joe chill montage cutting to batman smiling is the only time batman smiling has not been unbelievably cursed to me

[@FutureDeep]

Corn of Coblin has really met his match in The Batman Who Glues Himself To Everything.

[@AfromanRants]

Honestly, Batman’s happy place just being his dad beating the living shit out of Joe Chill forever is fucking *hilarious.* I straight up laughed until I cried, I can’t believe I never watched this show growing up.

[@cable7152]

Mason: "well, his eyes were glued to this wonderful spectacle." Me: Dead

[@schteb9876]

I can’t believe Mason didn’t point out James’s ‘stick around’ pun at the end

[@qwellen7521]

I remember seeing this in the cinema. Awkward would be an understatement. What kills me is that other DC animated releases absolutely deserved the cinema release and the money it cost make.

[@AndreNitroX]

Agreed under the red hood or return of the joker deserve a theatrical release

[@theswedishgamer68]

"Everybody's got a hack skill." - Words to live by

[@gooderambles]

I can't wait for the eventual Batman: Arkham City/Knight mod, that you guys have inspired, where you play the full game with a dead Joker glued to your hand.

[@donaldo141194]

I like the twist on that Barbara-Bruce scene (you know which one) Batman having glue on his glove and tapping Barbara's shoulder taking her shirt off by accident, and Batman committing to the idea he did that on purpose and having sex with her just cause he wouldn't admit it was an accident

[@shaolin1derpalm]

I listen, mainly, for the inanely specific jokes. I finally don't feel alone.

[@TheLastBabyMan]

The Killing Joke 3: Batman accidently glues himself to every member of the Justice League and becomes "The Living Katamari."

[@thedandyp]

Batgirl's story being glued to the front of this adaption, really shows that sometimes...less is Moore.

[@Rithysak101]

RIP Kevin Conroy 🙏

[@CurryFeatures]

Green Trivia is my absolute most favourite section of any video series ever.

[@dynaguy3]

Great idea to end with an actually great adaptation with the Superman For the Man Who Has Everything episode

[@stevehagen9804]

The killing joke was interesting, but yeah they just seemed tired. I think the nostalgia critic suggested they could have replaced the batgirl scene with a montage of TAS Batman-Joker face-offs and it would have set the stage much better

[@motherplayer]

Ah. Like how "The Shootist" did for John Wayne, using a bunch of stock footage from older Westerns he did to set the stage for his later year, slowly dying gunslinger as he goes through a week in a town.

[@kenmckell]

"Having Sex with Batman" (Cue Super Mario World music) OMG 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@reedy122]

Kevin Conroy is not 'the voice of batman' HE IS BATMAN RIP to a legend

[@AndreNitroX]

He was the definite Batman despite being a cartoon, he was more human than the live action batmen.

[@ArkhamsAngel13]

Period...no other words need to be said

[@nickrottkamp4933]

I am never going to get tired of the blue harvest joke

[@BadWisdom523]

I just finished Alan Moore’s novel Voice Of The Fire… Took something like 16 years

[@gorvarhadgarson5227]

Perseverance saves the day ;)

[@ValueNetwork]

Batman’s bat glue should be a running gag. If you retired blue harvest and replaced it with a story involving Batman gluing himself to something in the film your covering that would be a fitting replacement!

[@jim-bob3093]

Nothing like sleeping with your long term friend's daughter and your sons love interest. Oh joy!

[@alarin612]

If they'd started with a kind of fun, campy adventure where Batgirl helps take down the Joker, maybe even saves the day in it, that would have gotten Moore's point across better. He was all about ruining the fun of comics by making them darker - giving us some before/after contrast would have served this story well and emphasized the shock it is supposed to get across. I mean, just look at the panel at 6:10 - how things are different now and that's supposed to be terrifying. Instead we just got "ADULT THEMES" from front to finish.

[@diogenesrex7847]

I think the only reason people would assume Bats kills the Joker at the end of the comic is specifically because they want it to end on the even bigger downer that Batman ultimately fails. They just want the hero to lose.

[@emb5048]

#RIPKevinConroy

[@Yoshimitsu4prez]

Wait wtf I swear I read top 10, it was GONE from my mind but seeing those characters ignited something in my brain. I’m pretty sure I read that entire series in high school when I got into Alan Moore comics specifically for a minute. Now I need to dig into this and see if its really what I think it is

[@billepperson2662]

21:00 Mason: "I've Kryptonian glued myself to this end table..." Ben the editor: Mason, I can't do any more of this. We have to talk about the inane specificity of your jokes. Lawrence is in the hospital. This has to stop... 😆😅😂🤣

[@jayinsult]

Mason is correct in asserting that A Death in the Family comes after The Killing Joke, both canonically and chronologically. There is dialogue in A Death in the Family that suggests this is the first time the Joker has been at large since the events of The Killing Joke, and that every law enforcement organization and superhero team will be after the Joker "after what he did to Barbara."

[@Vincent.Morreale]

The Batman gluing himself to stuff bit made my month. Can he be a recurring thing ?

[@joshshiemke4153]

I just picture the editors reviewing the audio for these videos and staring at their computer like the meme of the dad in coralline when they hear masons running joke of the video being like “I loved cat woman when she does the cat laser vision”, and then have to make several two second clips of jpgs of cats shooting out of Michelle Pfeiffer eyes

[@DocD173]

Ok, this is the last time I listen to Caravan of Garbage while working out. @17:29, I audibly snorted laughing and almost dropped 200 lbs on my neck. That “glued myself” but was too fucking good

[@TheDrexLord]

You can tell Bruce Tim made this because of the batman Batgirl relationship. Also rip Kevin Conroy

[@FireMonkey1044]

This is the last time Mark and Kevin will work together 😥