Batman: The Rise and Fall of the Batmen Omnibus Overview!

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[@marcelo-ramos]

Man, it is your 2 cents we are here for. The only thing I don't like about your videos is how you keep resisting sharing your opinion. Go for it! We love you.

[@NearMintCondition]

I appreciate that

[@teflonrobg]

So true. I want him to say if he likes it or not. LOL

[@colin6612]

Omar puts a lot of context to let ya know if he likes whatever he's overviewing. He's trying not to burn bridges with publishers/community/fans - It's respectable. It is part of what makes this channel great!

[@teflonrobg]

@@colin6612 So true. Thanks.

[@thanosdarkseid8695]

@@colin6612 that's not honest review then for us that wanna buy or not though!!! gem mint does it legit i feel! he's real honest too.....like a true normal reader would be!

[@DMM9619]

Not getting this one but still here to like and share for that algorithm. Great overview nonetheless 🔥👌

[@NearMintCondition]

Thank you so much. Seriously.

[@DMM9619]

@@NearMintCondition No problem, you deserve all the praise you receive keep up the good work ☝️

[@benportzer]

I have the most epic answer as to why you upgraded: you knew I was going to watch this as many times as possible until I got the book itself

[@johnnieriot13]

Since the pandemic it’s been hard to keep track of the release dates with all the delays. But Near Mint has really helped. Thanks man, great review

[@NearMintCondition]

Thank you so much, brother.

[@pb9498]

Comment just for algorythm to know NMC needs more recognition

[@NearMintCondition]

Thank you so much.

[@ericl7842]

I can’t thank you enough for all you do and the countless hours.

[@lionheart4012]

Right on time. This gives me something to watch while I'm on break at work. Definitely picking this up next week. Great video Omar.

[@NearMintCondition]

Hope you enjoyed your break, brother.

[@lionheart4012]

Definitely with your videos.

[@danperrin3459]

I am very excited for this omnibus! Thank you for the great vid!

[@krishnansutewari470]

Thanks so much Uncanny Omar. The front of the dusk jacket has Detective Comics on it. You are a great social media influencer - whenever you are excited about something I end up spending money. As an example I would never have bought this, but you've sold me on it. However, not even you could sell me on the Nightwing omnibus. :)

[@Joenah5]

I love this run so much. Glad to see Tynion's prologue to it from the Robing 80th Anniversary Special was included since it wasn't in the solicitation.

[@JClif]

I never read any of Tynion's work. I ordered this yesterday. Looking forward to it. Thanks for showing me what to expect.

[@Hardcovered]

Just bnought it today and waiting for it. Should be delivered the next few days. Thank you Omar for this amazing overview :D It is only because of you that i started buying Omnis.

[@williamspellmeyer8300]

Thanks to you I have those deluxe editions. Thanks again they are awesome, great overview and keep up the great work.

[@NearMintCondition]

Glad you like them!

[@gothamthrasher9279]

Hahahah sweet! I loved this run so much that i custom bound it (including the night of the monster men crossover ) into two custom omnis! Still very tempted by this review to upgrade!! The gutter loss looks minimal and amazing compared to DC 's usual omni out put!!! Thanks alot for hard work man and Merry Christmas to you and yours ! 🤘🏻

[@NearMintCondition]

That's awesome to hear and thank you so much for the kind words.

[@jabezcreed]

I can't wait for mine to arrive. This was/is the only series I ever bought both covers for. The complete run of Rafael Albuquerque variants was just as spectacular as the A covers. And the story and interior art are amazing too. Barrows, Martinez-Bueno, and the rest are in my opinion the top tier of modern DC artists. I will buy anything those guys draw.

[@robd1329]

This run had some classic covers

[@MrRockforlife1]

First time will be reading it! Looking forward to it soon! Going to be awesome!

[@nivekleveb8872]

This looks great! I am digging Tynion's current run on Batman, so I am definitely picking this up. Damn that art looks good and it's nice to see a new comic with more than 5 panels per page and some actual dialogue and narration too. Thanks Omar!

[@NearMintCondition]

Thank you so much for the kind words.

[@mattthompson3371]

Man, I really want this. You sold me as I was on the fence, but for now since all those omniboo are being released in January, I have to save my money.

[@themetalpig7613]

I'll be sticking with the 4 OHC's. Easily my favourite format, easy to hold and oversized artwork...the best of both worlds. Just received my IST order today with all the Dawn of X trades and the individual titles, plus The Art of Adam Kubert book, it's so awesome!!! Hope you and the fam have a great Christmas Omar. Stay safe.

[@MagicJulienBertone]

Thanks for the video! I appreciate your opinion in these overview. I think it helps a lot of the viewers that want to pick up something new

[@NearMintCondition]

Thank you so much for the kind words.

[@aBATFANa]

Another great review Omar! I’m glad you shared your opinion a bit on this, I feel the same way! I absolutely loved this run and although I have the issues, I can’t resist double dipping on this one since it meant a lot to me as well. The Tim and Cassie stuff is fantastic, and I enjoyed Clayface’s development, as well as seeing new villains like the Victim Syndicate. Oh yeah... AND THE ART! Love it. Haha.

[@NearMintCondition]

oh man this run has so much going for it.

[@TheOtherMJ_76]

I’ll be purchasing the 4 oversized hardcovers. I just like the ease of handling those smaller books with the same size artwork. This is a good buy regardless if you choose to go the Omnibus route. Great content Omar, your channel among others have gotten me back into collecting. 👍😁

[@NearMintCondition]

I'm sure you'll be seeing some for sale. Welcome back to collecting, brother. :)

[@richardklikspaan811]

Thnxx for this Amazing Overview. I was waiting for a long time for you to drop this video, and here it is finally. I wanted to ask you something about the paper they used in the Omnibus. Is it the same as in the Deluxe Edition? Is it less glossy?

[@richardlewis9131]

Love it! My copy just arrived today. I’m always worried because I’ve had many omnibus delivered with damage and I had to return them then wait longer. This book arrived in Near Mint Condition!

[@NearMintCondition]

Ha! Best comment ever!

[@Tyler-Clark]

Never read this run before. Have only heard it being highly touted. Can't wait to get my hands on this.

[@Tacrovy]

This is run is really good brother, Tynion writes the characters very well.

[@mattthompson3371]

It's one of the best Batman/Tim Drake/Spoiler stories out there.

[@shreyankdas4547]

Absolutely love your overviews!!! I am getting the deluxe editions but that's just me!!!

[@NearMintCondition]

Thank you, brother and as long as you are getting these stories in some format.

[@KobbeGson]

Great series! Getting this 100%

[@caesarchaves07]

Another Awesome DC reviews !! Thankyou!

[@NearMintCondition]

My pleasure!

[@peterx1957]

Great overview Omar. I own the 4 deluxe HC's so I won't be upgrading but this is a wonderful looking book. I need to get into those HC's. Have a wonderful safe Christmas Omar and to your family. cheers mate.

[@NearMintCondition]

Always a pleasure to hear from you, my brother.

[@ChaziChaz89]

If anyone hasn't checked out this story. I'm here to say, it was fantastic. Awesome stories. I got them in the Deluxe editions. The art is insane!

[@scottdiaz9964]

Do I need to read anything before I read this ?

[@ChaziChaz89]

@scottdiaz9964 Nope. The Rebirth series starts here. You could read every bat family's story before. I won't spoil who appeas. But the book does a great job explaining when they first appear. Enjoy!!

[@joyroy82]

beautiful...i am getting it... Thanks for the awesome Review

[@noelnarciso5596]

Another great review! And convinced me to open my wallet again.... Happy Holidays, Omar! 😊

[@simian5805]

The graphic design of that book cover and interior covers are really well done; super dark. For a very thick book, it sits really well, and the binding is actually quite good (I think). I personally think its a touch unrealistic for people to expect no gutter loss in any book over 1K pages. Price is steep; but its a nice thick book. I am currently reading the New 52 Batman family (all of it) and am just loving it. The more I read of Batman, the more I realize how unstable and dark he is as a person. N52 is a lot less lonely than older Batman (which was cool in a different way). And Rebirth seems to double down on this. The interplay of characters takes the usual dark drama of Batman, and spins that darkness into an entirely new light. The end result is that you get a real sense of how wide reaching the actions of madmen (whether Batman, or the villains) can be - that kind of deep madness seems to be contagious. Everyone in the bat family is touched and affected by the darkness, madness and pain that seems to rise out of the roots of Gotham City. /emo-mode-off Working with bad guys works for me. And (as you note) he has worked with other villains before (if only in passing) e.g. Grundy, Calendar Man, Two Face, etc. when and where he needs to. But I guess this is a bit different, as he is a part of the team formally. Really looking forward to reading this. So we might read this right after Scott Snyder Batman and Batman Eternal Omnis? Ultimately, I'm glad I committed to the pre-order.

[@NearMintCondition]

Thank you for sharing your reading experience of Batman. So this takes place after Batman by Snyder and Eternal and Batman and Robin Eternal.

[@toddporter8215]

Happy to have mine before Christmas

[@BillySpenc]

Man I really loved how they did clay face in this run

[@jmeehan75]

Agree 100% with your comments regarding Tynion writing Batman ... I think he is the best as well. All of his books are just damn good. I'm so tempted to get this omni, but of course I have the deluxe editions as well. Tough call. Thanks for the content. I really enjoy your channel.

[@creamdory9619]

i never stopped watching this until i ordered one for myself lol

[@NearMintCondition]

:) I love your way of thinking.

[@TheComicBookReport]

Looks like a great run

[@giantproof]

I forgot about the powerhouses of artists in this run. I also really enjoyed Tynion and Martinez Bueno on Justice League Dark and hope one day DC will do some kind of omni for both volumes.

[@colin6612]

Nice overview. The story looks different enough from Batman Eternal to be a worthwhile read. I only have the Tom King run in HC, was waiting for this omnibus. Planning to pick this one up along with the Jim Lee X-Men vol 1 reprint!

[@jesus.lacorte]

Big Thanks for sharing the contents!😀😃😄

[@NearMintCondition]

No problem!!

[@BrettAAicher]

Great overview. Can’t wait to get mine.

[@NearMintCondition]

I hope you enjoy it.

[@anime5h_m1shr4]

Love your 2 cents, that's where I get my omnibus recommendations from! :D Btw small correction at 9:42, Matthew Hagen was the Clayface in BTAS.

[@Sharifuddin_Anwar]

I've had the Deluxe Edition books in my cart for the longest time. Guess I can chuck them and get this instead!

[@cf2099]

You made me considering this even though i've had no intention 👍👍👍

[@NearMintCondition]

:) Just speaking from my personal opinion.

[@DEATHxTHExKIDx1]

I'm mostly a Manga collector but every couple years I splurge on some Comics. Thx to Near Mint Condition. I Picked up 6 omnibuses in the Past 2months. Both Injustice books, Road to No Man's Land, and Grant Morrison's Batman run. THx again for fueling my fire.

[@afnan9388]

Then my friend, try and get the Batman by Paul Dini omnibus and Batman by Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale omnibus too. They're fantastic.

[@ryanp8021]

Man the deluxes may be easier to handle but I’m addicted to those Omnibus spines. I’ll be grabbing this one, I’ve never read it and it gets high praise from everyone, and I’m enjoying Tynion’s current Batman run.

[@killerreef7397]

Any recommendations on how to get some of the caped crusader/dark knight detective volumes? I can’t seem to find them and the ones I do are so expensive 😩

[@timthehandler]

I'm not sure about this one. I read the first deluxe book just after I started Tom Kong's Batman, and I liked the latter much more. Still, your enthusiasm is infectious. I may get it. Omnibus shipping to the UK is a bit hit and miss at the moment. Anyway, thanks for another great video and Seasons Greetings to all of you reading this. Much love to all, and here's to a much better 2021. I never thought that a bunch of comics fans would help keep me sane in difficult times!

[@t19coles88]

Yo Omar hope you're well. Great video 👍 I absolutely love this run. Read this in singles issues. Definitely picking this big boy up. In the UK it's been sold as Batman : Detective comics omnibus by James Tynion IV.

[@NearMintCondition]

That's a name I can get behind.

[@inopaulvillacastin752]

Need to get this and the other Batman omnis someday lol

[@paulylopes6762]

Omar, is the paper quality in the Omni the same as the deluxes? Was hoping you would discuss that in the video. I really want to get the Omni but if the paper quality isn’t as good I might rebuy the deluxes. I also really love this amazing run and the art is fantastic. Want to te read this run so badly.

[@FrankCastlesConscience]

I agree with this, a bit more of a comparison would have been interesting including is the gutter loss the same in the Deluxes?

[@dstar101]

Hey Omar, is war of the realms getting another print run or is it oop now? Thanks and Merry Christmas

[@mnm25chango2]

I picked this up and absolutely loved it... it really might be my gateway to more dc books. I read an interview where Tynion said this run for him was like writing the X-men! Any recs for someone who loved this and wants more? (I’m already reading Tynion’s current Batman run!!)

[@kfredrichs7359]

i know this is a comment to an old video, but can someone confirm that the cover gallery in the omni includes all the covers included in the deluxes? i am OK missing out on the 2 short stories included in the omni and reading these omnis is near impossible in my bed. the page total in the 4 deluxe versions is 1228 vs 1280 in the omni. thanks!

[@MrMarcusToliver]

Wow! Sounds amazing!

[@NearMintCondition]

It is!

[@blakcinephile]

James Tynion is a very good writer. I’m reading Nice House on the Lake right now

[@ashleyn1979]

I reckon Im gonna get this. Looks good! You shud work in sales the way u sell me these lol!

[@CinematicGalaxy]

Great overview, Omar! Hmm...this is a beautiful-looking omni, but my favorite collecting format is deluxe/OHC. I've only collected the first Detective Comics Rebirth Deluxe (haven't read it yet); guess it's time for me to spring on the others. That artwork is GORGEOUS and as much as I love Batman, I tend to prefer his supporting cast like Nightwing, Tim Drake Robin, any of the Batgirls, etc. Haven't read much with Spoiler yet so I'm looking forward to reading these stories.

[@NearMintCondition]

Get the rest of those deluxe editions, brother. You'll love it.

[@y0unggvts896]

I want to read the batman omnibus books but i dont where to start thinking of getting this one or the scott snyder one with greg capullo?

[@AryaChowdhuryMusic]

Great overview. The opening arc was one of the best to kick off Rebirth. I lost interest when the Victim Syndicate showed up; I wish there was followup on at least who First Victim was. Nonetheless, this was a treat to read and seemed to be more consistent than King’s Batman running alongside. I’m conflicted whether to go the deluxe or omni route because I wasn’t too into the Night of the Monster Men.

[@NearMintCondition]

If you have the Batman and Nightwing Deluxes. You'll have the complete Night of the Monster Men, if you get the Rebirth Deluxes.

[@jaredsrananman6642]

Love this story! Awesome!

[@NearMintCondition]

Yes!

[@benportzer]

On my 2021 bucket list

[@NearMintCondition]

Oh yeah!

[@williamjackson6705]

You had Me at Eddy Barrows. Scot Eaton & Jesus Marino are just topping on the cake. So many great artists that don`t get enough work. Keep putting in your opinions . You still need to read Once & Future with amazing art by Dan Mora Chavez.

[@fpjones6546]

I would be grateful to hear your opinion on books. I follow this hobby and I am up to date because of you I am super grateful.

[@stephentheshywarrior2759]

I am a big bat fan but have always overlooked this series and Detective comics in General for the main Batman series but you have persuaded me to pick up the issues( although probably not the omnibus because of cost). I love some of the characters in this book particularly Tim drake and azrael. I have a question what do you think of Tynion batman run?

[@NearMintCondition]

Tynion's run has been great. But I really enjoy Tomasi's a little more.

[@barryponsford2433]

If you have the four rebirth books, is there a way to collect the other stories, or is it not worth it?

[@fishin4bass2002]

Don’t ever apologize for stating your opinion and preferences! We watch your videos because we respect your opinion. If you don’t like something please tell us! I want to know!

[@NearMintCondition]

Thank you so much Ryan!

[@flashcactus3790]

This story is what brought me to comics. And I think the deluxe OHCs are the best format so won't "upgrade" even though I love the story. 👍

[@mattgorsuch]

Based on what you said about this, I really want to check this book out. On Christmas Eve I got my first DC omni which was Batman by Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo. My collection is 95% Marvel and I want to give DC some more love.

[@flackmonkey7571]

I always feel the same way. What I've come to realize, about myself, is that I'm not a big fan of DC's main pillars but love everything about Gotham

[@datboisteve6992]

I STILL haven't started reading anything from DC Rebirth yet, so I'm definitely picking this up! Would be nice if they dropped a Batman by Tom King omni next year too!

[@georgefeliu2383]

I can't wait to get mine mainly because I missed out on the Deluxe Edition

[@NearMintCondition]

Glad you are getting this.

[@lenadroconbotas]

I love the rebirth deluxe editions of Batman and Detective, so I’m not double dipping. So Omar do you think that DC is going to finish the Tom King run with a City of Bane deluxe or we are only getting that complete collection tp?

[@mikedjoons3634]

My girlfriend got me this for my birthday. Here in Holland it should arrive December 29th. Cant wait! Awesome vid Omar.

[@NearMintCondition]

Hey!!! Happy Birthday!

[@mikedjoons3634]

@@NearMintCondition Thanks brother!

This looks good. I have a new found liking towards Batman lately since Detective Comics 1027 and I will buy this one too. (Mihaly Csere from Transylvania :D )

[@benportzer]

How is the book? I'm on the fence as to whether to buy it or not

[@nathanielcohn9073]

Never read Tynion IV, but the odds are high I’m going to pick this up and read him for the first time.

[@NearMintCondition]

I really hope you enjoy.

[@Dennis-xm8uc]

Great overview Omar but one question, will you sell your OHCs now that you have the Omnibus?

[@NearMintCondition]

I absolutely will. :)

[@voiceoftheknight1939]

Was debating getting the deluxe or the omnis still cant decide but damn was this story amazing my favorite Detective Comics run

[@NearMintCondition]

If you don't have the deluxes. Get the omnibus.

[@onionsavoya7543]

For whatever reason I really liked this run on Detective.

[@MastermindAXL]

UPDATE: I just bought this from IST, my last buy for a long while (newlywed and all that!), but I'm excited!

[@cassidyuk]

I'm getting this one cos I read Tynions Justice League Dark. And it is tbh rather bloody marvellous

[@NearMintCondition]

I hope that JLD gets an omnibus.

[@terskatti4994]

That's one big eye, especially on a DC omni

[@NearMintCondition]

FACT.

[@Havok1718]

I'm getting this one for sure Bats is my dude.

[@NearMintCondition]

This is solid.

[@donaldallen9804]

I have the 7 trade paperbacks that cover his Detective run and as gorgeous as the omnibus is I don't think that I'm going to upgrade

[@TheSabotuer96]

I’ve always wondered how Batman vs Detective Comics continuity works. Do both creative teams work around each other, with Batman supposed to be dealing with both plots simultaneously?

[@berennettles6283]

Not sure how much this affects the Detective Comics run, but Scott Snyder and James Tynion are close friends and often discuss the stories they are planning and figure out how to connect them. Not 100% sure but my guess is that this takes place during and intertwines with Tom King's Rebirth Batman run (I am Gotham-City of Bane), and before the current Batman run by James Tynion. The authors of these books tend to rotate which can be confusing but can also help continuity flow together I believe. Basically if I'm getting it right the story of the modern Batman continuity is Scott Snyder writes the main new 52 batman run while assisting James Tynion with Batman Eternal. After the New 52 run and eternal are over, Snyder moves on to do his Justice Leauge, Metal, Death Metal and Last Knight on Earth. Tom King then starts doing the main Batman Rebirth series and James Tynion moves to his stint with Detective Comics (collected in this book). After Tom King finishes his main Batman run with City Of Bane and Tynion Finishes his Detective comics run, Tom moves on to do his canon Black Label Batman and Catwoman series which is still in progress. James Tynion then starts the new main Batman run which is still going on to this day and Peter J. Tomasi is doing the current run in Detective Comics. And all of this stuff is connected in the same story lol.

[@fmjmanarroyo1342]

Got mine for 10$ used. Can't wait to read

[@aroldroestenburg8838]

Wow Omar you have convinced me to buy a DC omnibus. I usually only read the indie books and some Marvel series but I love Something Is Killing The Children so if any writer can get me into Batman I figure it is James Tynion.

[@NearMintCondition]

Well I hope you enjoy it. Something is Killing the Children is amazing.

[@lautarocaradoso5623]

Tremendous book. It is sad we don´t get a Batman And Robin Eternal omnibus too.

[@NearMintCondition]

I can only hope they give us one.

[@codysummers6842]

Are you planning on doing a New Mutants Omnibus review this week or did you copy get delayed?

[@NearMintCondition]

It’s been in the mail somewhere for a month. Here is hoping :) as soon as I get it. I’ll do an overview.

[@TevyaSmolka]

Ooh cool omnibus for detective comics

[@NearMintCondition]

I know... The first of its kind.

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@NearMintCondition ooh awesome

[@renederieux1057]

I stoped reading Batman right after New 52, what Omnibus should I get to jump back in? Last I remember is Court of Owls.

[@timcline9689]

upgrading from my trades to the deluxes. was waiting for the omni but i'm kinda over these enormous books. just cumbersome to handle.

[@NearMintCondition]

Well said, my brother. get what you like.

[@superjlk_9538]

I feel like there’s a limit to how many pages an Omni should have. It sucks to break up an Omni into multiple parts but it might be necessary to get a good bind and reduce gutter loss.

[@superjlk_9538]

Would you recommend picking this up over the deluxe volumes? Currently it seems cheaper to buy the deluxe editions instead

[@NearMintCondition]

If its cheaper. Go that route honestly. Unless you like big bulky books.

[@W3bOfSpid3r90]

I prefer in this case the 4 deluxe cause all have amazing exclusive covers

[@jeffynat1583]

Will get this complete omnibus 🦇🦇

[@NearMintCondition]

It is complete.

[@jeffynat1583]

@@NearMintCondition Really want to dig in on this book since I gotta haul up on my DC collection, Thanks Omar 😊

[@oxmeatpete]

Omar, I have an obsession with the Batcave. I always love when the Batcave is shown in comics. Is there some “scenes” or spreads of the Batcave in this Omnibus? I also have a healthy obsession with the Bat vehicles but I’m interested in if this Omni shows the Batcave at any point that’s drool worthy? Someday I will have one of my own....

[@benportzer]

Idk about the batcave, but they do have a base in this collection called the Belfrey which Red Robin built

[@oxmeatpete]

@@benportzer Awesome suggestion that I never knew of. I’ll look into that one. Thanks!

[@NearMintCondition]

There is some Batcave action. Towards the beginning with some nice art. I know what you mean. I love that too.

[@oxmeatpete]

@@NearMintCondition thank you so much. It’s a must get for me.

[@lloydwong7852]

I wanted to get this. Same with the upcoming Tomasi Superman Omni in 2021 but December leading into January was like my personal Omnigeddon. Injustice vol 2, Supersons, Tynion Batman, 100 Bullets. Full retail those 4 omni would have cost $685 had we not gotten sales and discounts that cut that cost nearly in half. I had the 4 Deluxes so it was a no brainer to leave out the onmi that I have in a different format and can read more easily. With DC cutting back their lines and collections I'm just hoping books like 100 Bullets gets a volume 2 and even Snyder Batman gets a volume 2

[@NearMintCondition]

I'm with you, brother. I hope 100 Bullets gets a second volume .

[@terrydactyl2077]

Omnibuses are difficult for me to hold and read is my only problem with the formet

[@dennissparta2588]

Do you recommend any runs or stories to read for context before I start this omnibus? I’ve read Snyder’s Batman run. I have not started Kings stuff yet. I only collect big omnibuses like this but I do have DC universe on my tablet to fill in gaps.

[@NearMintCondition]

I think after reading Snyder's run, you should be good.

[@dennissparta2588]

@@NearMintCondition thanks!

[@miket8416]

If you could pick between the Omni and the deluxe hardcover set, which would you choose?

[@NearMintCondition]

The omnibus as it has more than the deluxes.