Batman V Superman Extended - Caravan Of Garbage

[@Gojitron1]

One thing that bugs me about this version of Batman is that he's got no issue killing a dozen nameless goons, but the Joker is still alive in this universe. If you want to create a killer Batman, fine, but the first thing you need to show me is Arkham Asylum as an empty, boarded up building.

[@yangaakdasta212]

My problem is that many people think that Batman killing people is what makes it a bad movie.

[@Rocketman10057]

yanga akdasta I’ve not heard one person say that’s the reason they don’t like this film

[@DexterGrifFTW]

I remember when BvS was just new tbere was meant to be a possibility of him having killed Joker after he joker killed robin, quite unfortunate they never went down that route it could’ve been very interesting, could’ve been a funky way to bring the Lazarus pits or possibly even just bring the joker back later down the line with scarecrows fear gas? But nooo, instead we got suicide squad 😂😂

[@DexterGrifFTW]

I meant when the trailer was just new btw, when it pans over the robin costume and I’m sure there were news paper cut outs too

[@CrissAssasin7]

Batman killing is meant to be a bad thing, as the movie makes clear. As for the Joker, well that comes down to this never being meant to be a cinematic universe, Snyder just wanted to make 5 movies, in which the Joker would've had no role. So why include him?

[@supersizesenpai]

The most ridiculous thing about this movie is thinking that the US government would allow Superman to be just buried in the ground. Listen the moment Superman drops dead the government would have snatched up that body and began every test on it imaginable. I've thought about this for years but in this movie it stands out more because unlike other death of superman retellings where superman has been a hero for years. In this story Superman is still pretty new and the government is kind of wary about him. I can see them respecting him enough to leave him buried in other tellings because he has earned the world's trust at that point but that trust hasn't been remotely earned in this story.

[@ckjadams]

i thought they didnt even know where supermans body was. Didnt bruce steal it?

[@mp7950]

@@ckjadams After a week-long funeral.

[@blyzer7373]

@@ckjadams No. They dig him out in JL

[@dfsoutherland]

Blyzer there were two funerals. One for Superman and Clark. Superman funeral didn’t have a body (I think). The grave they dug up was Clark’s

[@EmperorJ123]

I think this is meant to be a couple of years after the battle of Metropolis

[@Carloszavalalol]

What are we, some kind of Extended Cut?

[@natedogsturdikat8538]

Love that I started watching this channel in anticipation for BvS and we’re still doing it cause DC hasn’t been able to move past whatever that movie was

[@laladoopsy]

Yuo should have called this version "The Ultimate Cut"

[@ThePonderer]

I’ve had conversations with people who genuinely think Clark did all he could to reason with Bruce during the title fight, like it isn’t the most contrived thing in the universe, and it just never makes sense to me.

[@cill521]

He gets pissed off and decides to show Bruce that he has no chance in the world defeating them. (After he had machine guns and sound guns shot at him) He throws him on the roof for that. What is contrived about it. How does that not make sense.

[@CrissAssasin7]

He is pissed, under a time limit, Batman isn't listening and he recalls an earlier conversation in the movie. You don't reason with the Batman, you punch him. And so he does, even though it's a bad idea. The characters act like people, they make bad choices too.

[@rikudoubapeck]

You really think Bruce cares to listen? The lack of understanding of basic human behaviour from critics of this film never fails to leave me dumbfounded.

[@SchulzEricT]

@@CrissAssasin7Okay, if Superman decided to defeat Batman rather than reason with him, it would take all of 0.00000002 seconds for Superman to defeat him. The movie has him not only not really talk to him, which Superman 100% would've done, it has him consistently trying to lose. Do you not understand how fast, strong, and smart Superman is? There's absolutely NO WAY Superman would be caught off-guard by any of the impotent ways Batman tries to defeat him, like "hiding" tech from somebody with super-sight, or shooting Kryptonite at somebody who is faster than thought... which works in the movie, TWICE!!! Zack Snyder is a talentless hack.

[@johnnycalrissian929]

Only thing I hate is it's the second film in.. Just imagine if they went Iron Man then Civil War

[@Revstarallstar]

I understand what you mean but thats not a good comparison

[@jyotektosgaimur]

You've got to realise that the DCEU, especially Zack Snyder's was just a 5 film arc. He didn't want to pull an MCU. I also think that BvS is about the union from two conflicting ideologies being embodied within Batman and Superman. Whereas Civil War is a more concrete, realistic reason why the avengers fell apart, which is about heroes that once untied being divided.

[@ryuhitsuya21]

Well yea but its still a shit film overall

[@Rxmzy]

@@Revstarallstar yes it is

[@DexterGrifFTW]

Aarondev Atwal what are you talking about a 5 film arc, do you actually think DC just looked at marvel and went, “let’s just make 5 that’ll be enough money”, they always planned a massive cinematic universe, literally all the time for years there was talks about their slate of movies that was a film a year until like 2021😂😂 this was before BvS, meaning there were at least 8/9 movies planned in the immediate future, never mind after then, please do the slightest bit of research before you go rambling on

[@somethingfishy6097]

You guys and Kevin Smith's Fatman beyond keep me going through this harsh and brutal time !! Well done boys

[@michaelesparza4116]

Ah, another man of culture

[@kidart89]

Honestly, I could’ve listened to an hour more of just ripping this movie apart. It deserves all of it. Batman and Superman deserved so much better. Also, I think the movie doesn’t bother me half as much as people who try to defend it and saying “oh you didn’t get it it’s actually a very deep movie”. It’s actually not. It *tried* so hard to be deep but it doesn’t have enough substance at all to be deep, it’s just so silly and corny. Also, my hometown was portrayed in the movie as people wearing Day of the Dead face paint and Superman had to come all the way here because apparently we don’t have firefighters. F*ck off 😂😂😂

[@robinnadjiZ]

if you don't think the Movie is "deep" may i suggest a great counter argument here. if you genuinely are open to being proven wrong. Look at this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWWToKVpnaqhh7c

[@joshkaid]

@@robinnadjiZ Opinions. Can't. Be. Wrong. That's. Why. They. Are. Opinions.

[@robinnadjiZ]

Josh Kaid they can if they are based off of factually incorrect assessments.

[@jeynarl]

I was expecting Shia LaBeouf news. What is this doing here?

[@EmperorJ123]

Wtf happened to Doomsdays body?

[@FleetwoodCrack]

To be fair he is supposed to be millions of years old and his body builds armor based on damage taken. So if we just watched him be born he can't be the rocky tank we're used to seeing.

[@themoviedatewithrobandmatt345]

probably still there i Imagine

[@6thsavage]

More Like Batman V Superman V My Ex-Wife! Now I'm free and living up my late 40's on perpetual Spring Break baby, I'm BAAAACK!

[@theoryofanything]

Come on Batman, kryptonite bullets, just sayin'.

[@munohlow]

I think people just want to see at least one direct adaptation of the status quo established in comics but studios or writers or directors or whomever always jump into their own weird interpretation

[@AmasBansalArt]

So in essence, this is the ULTIMATE EDITION of your video on your other channel?!?! LOL

[@WakingDreamer01]

Just a question, do people know which video is it where James is talking about Archangel in the X-men 3 movie exclaiming, "He's an ANGEL! AN ANGEL!" That was such a great video (as all their videos), and I want to watch it again but I don't know which one...?? I was the 400th Like on this one.

[@khrashingphantom9632]

WakingDreamer01 I'm pretty sure it was the Caravan of Garbage for X-Men 3.

[@andrewmarr6849]

Fan Theory that has probably been mentioned already. Jack is actually Jack Drake, father of Tim Drake. What if in the Batman movie Affleck would be signed up to he would meet Tim Drake? Jason Todd is dead, so it would fit the timeline and give a reason for Tim to be taken in.

[@munohlow]

Snyder has said the dead Robin was supposed to be Dick Grayson and they would later introduce Carrie Kelly as Robin II

[@andrewmarr6849]

Manolo Quintero ahhhhhhh well worth a shot

[@calebdekeyser7496]

Was the Jesse Eisenberg in Social Network a better Lex Luthor than in Batman V Superman or were they the same

[@michaelandrews117]

@Scrim Shaw Should have just made this Man of Steel 2 and have Been Affleck play Luther.

[@shawnawesome7770]

Why was that lil girl running on the streets while her mom was in building?

[@Yes_Fantasy_419]

Zack Snyder: There's a great video that shows all the kills from all the previous Batman films where we would perceive them as films where Batman doesn't kill. Mr. Sunday Movies Batman's 45 kills KZbin video

[@videoquez]

"I thought she was with you?" Theory!!! Batfleck's lifelong PTSD, alcoholism and drug addiction have literally caused him to genuinely ask Superman, "I thought she was with you?" At this point in his life, Bruce Wayne has had so many wild nights, and woken up next to so many random women that he doesn't recognize. It's foreshadowed by Bruce Wayne waking up next to a woman lying facedown in bed. We don't see her face, we don't even know if she's alive, and neither does Bruce Wayne. Further proof, after the party where Bruce meets Dianna Prince, we "find out" Batman broke into LexCorp and stole Kryptonite. We don't actually see Batman perform (what could have been) an incredible heist/break in scene, because we are meant to experience his own disassociation with his actions. Bruce Wayne got home from the party, took some Xannax, did a whole bunch of Internet research, black mailed wonder women, broke into LexCorp and then passed out. When he woke up there was a block of Kryptonite and he went "well, I guess I got that thing I needed to kill Superman". It also kind of explainins why he's so surprised Clark's mom's name is Martha.

[@calebdekeyser7496]

Why didn't Lex Luthor create Amazo instead of Doomsday and use him to either implicate Superman or kill him as well as Batman. Because at least if you had Amazo you have a better chance of controlling him. He was watching Superman, Flash, Cyborg, Aquaman, and Wonder Woman, so he could have just sent Amazo to battle them, replicate their powers, and pretend to be defeated or kill them.

[@khrashingphantom9632]

Caleb De Keyser That's actually really cool. I'll be honest I thought since Jesse Eisenburg is Jex Luthor Jr I thought the real Lex Luthor would pop up at the end. Hell they could have used that to explain how all that info, on the Justice League popped up since Luthor Sr would have been studying Meta-Humans across the world (Hence his looking into the desert to see Hawkman and Hawkwoman), seeing General Swanwick is an alien shape shifter, ect. Now that Lex Luthor Sr has discovered the existence of Meta-Humans, and aliens on Earth he is kidnapped and his death is faked by Cadmus (Led by Amanda Waller) and that's how introduce the Justice League.

[@calebdekeyser7496]

@@khrashingphantom9632 Not only would that make sense in terms of a connected universe, but that'd be a twist. Do everything to make it seem like Eisenberg is the real Luthor and then just surprisingly kill him off and reveal in a post credits scene reveal he was just a crazy guy with daddy issues and the real Lex Luthor was his father

[@harley_yelrah9429]

Biggest mistake of this movie is having mercy graves played by the lady from the wolverine and giving her nothing to do

[@hothotheat3000]

Do they even name her in the movie?

[@themoviedatewithrobandmatt345]

not every character gets something to do. that's not how movies work. She's his personal assistant what do you want her to do??

[@surlycanadian]

Luthor secures the permit for importing the kryptonite not because he wanted to follow the rules, but because he needed access to the Krytonian ship and so he needed to have something to share with the government. By advising them of the kryptonite, and explaining that it’s a potential weapon or insurance policy against Superman if needed, he’s attempting to appear to be cooperative, collaborative, transparent and trustworthy so that he gains access to the ship.

[@ThePonderer]

I like that we had to have a disclaimer about the title because we all KNOW BvS fans.

[@bryansuminski7543]

OR because they've gotten plenty of complaints from people comeplaining about their favorite movies being in a video titled Caravan of Garbage.

[@TG-bd7yd]

They've made the disclaimer multiple times. The Raimi trilogy, the mummy franchise and many more.

[@tylerschwartz9313]

Also, in relation to Supe's stupid death, why didn't he throw it? It's a spear. And if not him, why not WW? An ancient Greek(ish?) warrior would know they're way 'round a javelin.

[@shelbyvillerules9962]

Yeah but Zack Snyder _reeeeeeeeally_ wanted to do the death of Superman.

[@michaelandrews117]

This movie proved to me that Snyder just doesn't understand the core concepts of these two characters. Let Snyder make a Punisher movie. Seems to be more in his wheelhouse (though then you'd get The Punisher spouting Ayn Rand).

[@robinnadjiZ]

it seems to me you don't understand that Snyder made changes to these characters as does every comic book movie director. he makes Batman the villain not a hero. and i would argue he understands superman better than most

[@joshkaid]

Let him make a Question movie. At least that character actually IS Randian.

[@henrychinaski5938]

@@robinnadjiZ You really think he understands superman ? Really ? Are you sure ?

[@sociopath7541]

@@henrychinaski5938 Yes he does.

[@henrychinaski5938]

@@sociopath7541 then you don't understand superman either. Bunch of fake fans .

[@johnhutchinson7343]

See, when I saw the movie, I thought the jar of urine WAS the bomb. Like it was some kind of liquid high explosive. But by that point in the movie my mind had started to wander.

[@DexterGrifFTW]

Zack Snyder doinh injustice would be PERFECT!!

[@MoneyOnlineSimple]

Good video as always, guys! :)

[@BetterNicholas]

Am I the only one who feels like Batman vs Superman Dawn of justice should of been call Batman and Superman dawn of justice

[@robinnadjiZ]

who cares?

[@budakaimaster3]

Jimmy Olson is in the theatrical cut. I remember it in theaters. The scene is shorter but he is in there.

[@joshkaid]

In the Ultimate Edition, they specifically name him as Jimmy Olsen. I think that's what they ment.

[@budakaimaster3]

@@joshkaid yeah, the only way you'd know it's Jimmy in the theatrical version is through the credits.

[@Memo_323]

I wanted to love this movie. The extended cut helped me feel less ashamed of liking it. At the end of the day, I’d rather watch this movie even with all it’s faults than a by the book cookie cutter super hero film. This isn’t a shot at Marvel. I really enjoy the MCU, it’s epic and the Infinity war/End Game duo of films will go down in history as a masterpiece in story telling. But I don’t want MCU formats and themes in my DC movies. I can’t wait to see how the Snyder verse plays out next year.

[@jmace2424]

I didn’t like this movie in theaters but later I watched the Ultimate Edition and was like 🤩

[@NoorAhmed-nk2jq]

I'm probably alone in this but I really dislike the car chase scene...I know it's visually cool but it's what ruined Batman's character for me for the rest of the movie and here is why: Batman, being the smart guy that he is tags a car to track it, and instead of going home and letting the tracker do its job, he follows it and attacks the car breaking parts of it but luckily for him not the tracker...how did he know no one see it when the inspected the broken car? he could have lost the tracker or brought attention to it, and for what? so he can kill some people on the side? and fine Batman can kill or whatever but shouldn't he at least only kill people who are endangering others or are doing crimes that warrant death? these guys were only smuggling Kryptonite, which he later steals, so it's not like their crime is punishable by death and he's taking justice into his own hands, if it is, well he should kill himself then! So in conclusion, it makes batman look to be dumb and very murder-y, also the way it ends is strange because batman and Superman meet but they don't really try to have a conversation, it's just threats and moving on!

[@cill521]

He planned to take the Kryptonite in the chase, the tracker was just backup. And as always a plan can go wrong, he just does the best he can. What so many people did not understood, and neither did you, is that Bruce is chasing them like crazy right after he has seen the nightmare sequence. This was Flashpoint meddling with time. So he experienced Superman killing his friends. He experienced Superman taking over the world. For all Bruce cares, these criminals stand in the way of him saving the world from Superman. They are in the way of him preventing the death of more innocent people. So there you go, that explains his violence. (added on this is his drug abuse, sex addiction and loneliness over his unresolved trauma)

[@NoorAhmed-nk2jq]

@@cill521 I don't know if your explanation improves on my view of Batman a whole lot, I still think using the tracker is the smart move and Batman shouldn't be the kind of person who gets hysterical and go on a rampage because of a nightmare, he bides his time to attack Superman, taking all the preparation time he needs to be ready though not really looking into him long enough to know if he has a family or not!, but he would rather get his aggression on small time smugglers because... he can? I mean you might be Ok with Batman being morally questionable, I'm sure he's been so in many comics, but if I'm gonna root for him against the villians I need to see him value human life at the very least! those smugglers probably had moms too! maybe even ones named Martha!

[@robinnadjiZ]

i think (not trying to be a dick) that maybe you don't understand Batman's characterization in this film. this is not Classic Batman this is a version 20 years down the line and hes given up abandoned his morals. the only reason he is doing anything right now is to kill superman. period.

[@cill521]

@@NoorAhmed-nk2jq he knows for certain he can take them down when they are moving the kryptonite, he does not know where they will take it. Or how heavily that place will be guarded. He chooses certainty. Stop nitpicking. If you question Batmans haste and emotional decisions you don't begin to understand why they are fighting in the first place. Or why he stops after realising Superman is a brave men, a brother

[@calebdekeyser7496]

A problem with all Batman movies is not the fact that he kills people directly or indirectly, but the fact that rich people think it's a smart idea to go down an alley with Crime in it's name and not think you're robbed or murdered. And did the Mugger serious kill Bruce's parents for cheap pearl's, and if that's the case, was Thomas Wayne willing to let his family die instead of giving a mugger a cheap necklace.

[@bryansuminski7543]

Since you don't know Crime alley was named that way because of their deaths. The streets original name was Park row.

[@calebdekeyser7496]

Fun fact

[@ryanpollard1166]

IMO, I feel that Batman v Superman is Zack Snyder at both his best and worst. There is a lot that I love about this film, whether it's character moments between Bruce and Alfred or Clark with Lois or Martha, the opening sequence, the action, the cinematography, and most of the performances, particularly Ben Affleck and Jeremy Irons who are both, performance wise, are the best live-action on-screen Batman and Alfred. However, for as much as there is plenty to love, there's also plenty I hate: skipping over Batman and Superman forming a friendship and becoming the World's Finest, shoehorning in obvious set-ups for Justice League, Doomsday & The Death of Superman being adapted and totally wasted (especially since they kill off Superman in only his second film), and Jesse Eisenberg's awkwardly kooky performance. It feels like as if WB forced Snyder to abandon any Man of Steel sequels and make this one in order to set-up Justice League, catch up and compete with Marvel and having their own billion-dollar franchise. However, despite this, I do appreciate this film (particularly the Ultimate Edition) for having one consistent vision behind it with Snyder making the film he wanted to make, which makes it all the more sad that his vision got compromised with Justice League.

[@munohlow]

I think Snyder just wanted to do the cool Superman stuff. He loves the character but he doesn’t have the nuance to develop the story properly so he just does all the crazy stories in one go

[@robinnadjiZ]

Having Batman and Superman be friends first (not everything has to be Civil War) will NOT Work. Batman doesnt want to understand Superman he wants to kill him. WHY? because Superman destroyed his sense of self, triggered his PTSd from the night of his greatest Trauma, and was there when metropolis was destroyed (guilt by association) although superman didn't really destroy any of the buildings that was (Zod and the World Engine) but to Batman its all the Same. not everything has to be "how i remember it as a child"

[@chrissullivan6572]

Who says my elixir is piss, who says this?

[@ubaidubai_]

I like bVs but, Yawn of Justice

[@TheVladMan.]

Cavill’s Superman fits well with Affleck’s Batman. Reeve’ Superman fits well with Keaton’s Batman. Routh’s Superman fits well with Bale’s Batman.

[@donaldbell2554]

Yeeet boyz

[@darthazul2143]

Who disliked this?!

[@r520jr8]

People someone who think BvS is a masterpiece and a perfect movie and they don’t like that James and Mason have legitimate criticisms

[@darthazul2143]

@@r520jr8 tou'che my good man..

[@drinkwater96]

People with taste.

[@flannelshirtguy]

Big nut

[@ironshard360]

I love this film, its flawed but i love it but GOSH DARN i dont underatand why Lex would give his agents super special bulleta only he makes, one of the things in this i cant wave away with an excuse

[@drinkwater96]

One of the most underrated comic book films of all time. Period.

[@shwnshts9469]

You misspelled overrated

[@CrissAssasin7]

@@shwnshts9469 No he didn't.

[@michaelandrews117]

It's not even rated, let alone underrated. And for good reason. It's bloody awful.

[@robinnadjiZ]

@@michaelandrews117 sorry you didn't like it. i quite enjoyed it. may I suggest Antman and the Wasp it has nice bright colors and simple forgettable story. Maybe that's more you're speed.

[@positivetakes5592]

The good parts are great and the bad parts are pretty bad, but at least in the Ultimate Cut it makes narrative sense

[@robinnadjiZ]

"i guess it would be about 50/50 when he died" but it is 50/50 in the movie .... so you're wrong

[@CavemanBatman]

Considering how terrible this film is, I would have thought this episode would have been longer. Thank you regardless

[@stefanpp1155]

It might be silly, overly ambitious and flawed but damn it's this overblown operatic tone that makes it much more enjoyable than so many micro managed Marvel movies.

[@robinnadjiZ]

i agree with this

[@XEN.P]

i think this movie is cringe at times but most of it is at least thematic and not that bad

[@CollegeDroputPowerpoints]

Just came to drop a dislike. Have a good one :)