Zack Snyder's Justice League - The Weekly Planet Podcast

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It's Justice League time. Again. But this time for real because it's Zack Snyder's Justice League and buy do we have thoughts. But before that we talk the death of Yaphet Kotto, more movie delays, the Black Widow release date, Star Wars news, an Hourman movie and a threequel for Ave Venture. Thanks for listening!
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04:42 Yaphet Kotto RIP
05:46 Delays But Don't Dismays
08:56 Black Widow Release
10:30 Star Wars News
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17:00 Zack Snyder's Justice League Review
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[@ki-seonpeck9069]

I hope this review serves as a perfect example of two people with drastically different views on the Snyder Cut having a civil and respectful discussion on why they feel the way they do.

[@richardabraham1101]

The internet: no

[@DylanSunkel]

Thing is, these two are friends, where as everyone on the internet sees themselves as enemies. Though maybe they'll punch for a bit and then be mates.

[@jacksonperez5615]

Doesn’t matter when your friends

[@andymc96]

@@DylanSunkel after finding out their mum's have the same name.

[@lexis4490]

And they both makes sense. But nah 🤣

[@trashboat1829]

Boy let me just say that scene where cyborg finally said maclunkey like in the old trailers really got me.

[@wallwrittR]

I sure loved the scene where Corn of the Coblin stepped on Steppinwolf’s head

[@vortexofweird]

I’m gonna listen to this podcast in slo-mo to make it last longer.

[@dynastyfamily00]

You should submit your application to be the new head of creative on the DCSeeyou-verse. You have exactly what they want!

[@TheLegoJungle]

And then message James about how listening to the pod at half speed “makes him sound drunk,” like all the other hundred people did back in the day.

[@BeelerzebubSA]

@Conor Murphy I wish I could do shit at double speed to make myself exist half as long

[@jojaham]

I've never been more ready for a podcast in my life!!

[@RileyDia]

The anticipation is electric!

[@siguanabo69]

For real!

[@quitequaintq5830]

Same here, I'm so hyped!! 😆 These guys are hilarious.

[@splashofcitrus66]

I was expecting more excitement from Mason after hyping up the “You should probably move line”

[@steveknoxville5224]

"You should probably move" - Cyborg

[@DylanSunkel]

The only thing missing from that scene is him winking to the camera and saying softly "That's for you James and Maso"

[@AwesomeEnterpriseInc]

@@DylanSunkel Release the Maso cut!

[@TheConGaminator]

I was like YEAAHH when that line came up My dad sorta looked at me like "I love this movie and there's so much cool stuff to like, and you get excited about this one line? Okay, suit yourself" 😋

[@christophercano8032]

I had a near religious experience when Martian Manhunter popped up and did absolutely nothing for 2 minutes of screen time. Completely changed and elevated the film. 10/10

[@cgijokerman5787]

I had a near death experience with how they absolutely obliterated my favourite character into just fan service. HES ARGUABLY AS STRONG AS SUPERMAN WHY HASNT HE DONE ANYTHING AHHHH

[@rudayyy13]

@@cgijokerman5787 EXACTLY!!!

[@christophercano8032]

@@cgijokerman5787 yo, that "make your own future, make your own past" monologue Barry gave was v deep poetry. I haven't been that emotional since Jean Grey said "my emotions make me strong" at the end of Dark Phoenix.

[@cgijokerman5787]

@@christophercano8032 the only time i was more emotional than that scene was when WW went "Kal-el no!"

[@lexis4490]

@@cgijokerman5787 What are you talking about? He got Lois back into journalism 🤣

[@oops6876]

I’m glad someone else finally brought up Steppenwolf’s big kawaii eyes

[@DrowzyDruid]

What? The pigtails didn't tip you off?

[@audoodle9963]

The best line in the movie was definitely when Batman said “Everyone this is Alfred I work for him.” No idea why Whedon cut that. It’s almost a whedon line already. It’s better then all the flash jokes he did.

[@elitepower4057]

But what is brunch???

[@Meme_Lor]

I fucking love that line, also I want more scenes of Bruce Wayne being awkward socially, its kinda adorable

[@ravenkarlin]

@@elitepower4057 “what is brunch if not breakfast persevering?”

[@darnellafrance3591]

@@ravenkarlin oh god

[@doomstadt2371]

Whedon got handed notes and a paycheck and did a job. That whole first version reeks of "just doing what they tell me for money". And honestly, I can't blame him. Make that money you fucking creep, you got lawyers to hire.

[@PigMan161]

The classic James opinion of “I had fun with it”

[@anothercleverusername992]

And the classic Maso opinion of, _"I HATE this DC Universe."

[@PittsburghSonido]

“Release the maclunkey cut” is my favorite

[@LoganBluth]

@@anothercleverusername992 He loved Wonder Woman and was fairly positive about Shazam and Aquaman, if I remember correctly. I think it's more he just doesn't like Zack Snyder's general filmmaking style, which, to be fair, IS a very specific taste. 🤷‍♂️

[@benedicto2031]

@@LoganBluth is it a specific taste when everyone loves this movie?

[@LoganBluth]

@@benedicto2031 I don't know if I'd agree that EVERYONE loves the movie. It's definitely better than the 2017 JL, and people who are already Zack Snyder fans definitely love it, but the general gist seems to be: Enjoyable, good comic book movie, too long. I mean, let's keep this in perspective, it's not universally beloved like an Empire Strikes Back or a Jurassic Park, it's a good movie, but it's not for everyone. 🤷‍♂️

[@deveshsood6087]

If we don't get some h8 mail from this, I will be extremely dissapointed

[@lyndsaybrown8471]

Maybe they will each send one in against the other's opinion

[@jussts]

Snyder fans do not disappoint when it comes to h8 mail.

[@t0k3verse]

We? Who the hell are you?

[@shelbyvillerules9962]

On the subject of slow-mo, throughout the movie I couldn't help but keep thinking about that line in Garth Marenghi's Darkplace when Richard Ayoade says, "We tried to keep the slow motion away from dialogue as much as possible, but anything without dialogue was considered for slow motion"

[@trilltron2885]

When Flash breaks the glass of the dog shop its so friggin cool how it bends almost like a liquid moments before shattering.

[@Drawnartist]

Yeah awesome

[@lexis4490]

And it was different from other speedsters.

[@scoobingtonmcwigglesnatch9985]

And then how he creepily caresses Iris before dangling a hot dog on her face, some good stuff!

[@scoobingtonmcwigglesnatch9985]

@Pranav M He literally runs like a wet noodle...I personally find this flash insufferable and cringe city. Really ruined both Whedon and Snyder cuts for me

[@tobylerone4285]

@@scoobingtonmcwigglesnatch9985 he doesn’t creepily caress her, he has to gently let her down because she’s only human, he would rip her apart if he just caught her at that speed

[@munohlow]

We finally got that classic Batman line “I will fucking kill you” Also I’d love an Alita game lesdoit

[@DrowzyDruid]

@@conormurphy4328 these deserves way more likes hahaha

[@JohnSmith-qy2fh]

@@conormurphy4328 I’d say “You die now...AGH” is the more iconic Prime line

[@anenemystand5582]

@@conormurphy4328 "give me your face"

[@martinnaranjo3185]

Fockin hated it Well i fockin loved it Maso v Sunday: Dawn of Podcasting

[@raoul.__.r3363]

I would watch that movie

[@DrowzyDruid]

Ironic as it was actually how they started, come to think of it - it's a more well developed story arc than the film

[@faheemali3550]

"are you mad I like this?" 😂😂

[@santiagolagomarsino7360]

Maso is such a Zack Snyder hater

[@jimjam7928]

@@santiagolagomarsino7360 He's not wrong about this film though.

[@faheemali3550]

@@santiagolagomarsino7360 nothing wrong with not liking something as long as you ain't a dick about it. Which maso isn't

[@adotgif]

Love Maso and didn't love this film but he REALLY didn't let James talk

[@extonjonas6820]

@@santiagolagomarsino7360 Sometimes people don't like people because they don't think they are good. Hater implies that it is unjustified, sometimes people don't like things

[@DinerLingo]

The Mother Boxes were the least "well-guarded" super-computer-weapons ever. One was in a coat closet (then buried in a hole a foot deep) & the other two were displayed out in the open on giant plinths like they were in a museum. Why weren't they encased in tons of concrete & buried miles in the earth? Or at the bottom of the Mariana Trench? Or shot into the sun thousands of years ago? Remind me to never ask a DC character to guard something for me.

[@lexis4490]

There was one point with the Atlanteans that I thought they were going to hide the mother box in an octopus stomach. I thought that was cool, but nah. We are going to put it on display.

[@qwertyferix]

Nobody would expect them to be hidden out in the open with sub-par defenses. 🧠

[@ryleynations6251]

Tell me how they would shoot something into the sun “thousands of years ago”

[@moistuncritikal]

@@ryleynations6251 get a green lantern to throw it into the sun

[@DrowzyDruid]

@@moistuncritikal absolutely agree - there were also gods present at the Battle - you're telling me they couldn't have hidden it anywhere better

[@professorduckford4787]

I like how grumpy Maso seems to have been made by this movie lmao

[@Redkurtain]

It’s like Snyder hurt him in some way

[@louiedidcote8260]

'Amy Adams, Making Coffee' 'Homer Simpson, Smiling Politely'

[@battleupsaber462]

Everybody's losing it over Cyborg saying his famous line, meanwhile I'm over here hyped that Martian Manhunter said "Defenders of the Earth"

[@stefanfilipovits21]

DEFENDERS!

[@MatiPryjomko]

OUTTA THE SKYY THEIR ROCKETS IGNITE

[@thedeadlynose5127]

@@stefanfilipovits21 beat me too it 😂

[@linkdk59]

You should probably move

[@DrowzyDruid]

JETS INTO BATTLE, FLIES FASTER THAN LIGHT, FLASH GORDON!

[@Serprizebuttsecks]

Please say im not the only one that actually cheered when Cryborg finally delivered the line we've been waiting so many years to hear him say?!?!

[@WuMyth]

When he say it... I completely missed it

[@RileyDia]

I was so dorkily excited by it

[@BlueAmerican26]

@@WuMyth while saving the cop from getting smacked by a car.

[@timd3469]

What was the quote, "I'm the rich & famous celebrity who plays Cryborg! Feel sorry for me cause people are mean in the real world and I can't handle that."?

[@ericlayton8888]

@@timd3469 nah it was “I was hyped to be playing a character that I’m enthusiastic about who was pivotal in a movie but am now deflated because the studio had my screen time decimated... MACLUNKEY”

[@mattthomas2078]

As someone who didn't bother watching the 2017 version, I thought this was well paced and worked as a film. But if it needed to be that long to feel properly fleshed out, then it probably wasn't the right time to make a Justice league film. If the cyborg stuff had been explored in his own film first, this wouldn't have needed to spend so long on him for example.

[@pachanas703]

That's a really good point. The movie felt a lot better to me in large part because everything felt so fully explored. But yeah, a big chunk of that time is spent on Cyborg and his relationship with his father.

[@doomstadt2371]

I feel the Cyborg origin was the only one that did belong in the movie because it actually relates to the plot, if anyone needed his story resolved before this, it was Flash. None of his personal scenes were necessary for this movie, and having two "new guy does good/love you dad" stories competing for attention kinda flattened them both for me. The "travel into the digital world" scenes were embarassing though. It was a better version, but overall still an ugly movie with characters that are hard to care about as they're presented.

[@lexis4490]

@@doomstadt2371 it’s funny because I actually liked the flash story because it made me believe he would want to join a strange team. And I think Cyborg story could be trimmed down. I didn’t need all the flashbacks.

[@ItaloGordz]

Cyborg storyline was the heart of the movie to me

[@Maluboyy97]

man Mason really hated everything about this movie! I mean he even hated Flash trying on different hats lol

[@jackrichardson7020]

I feel like there's a perfect 3-3.5 hour fanedit of this that cuts the Knightmare, Martian Manhunter, Lex/Slade scene, musical montages, speeds up a lot of the slo-mo, the Icelandic chanting and generally trims a lot of scenes. Still, as a big DC fan and Snyder detractor I really enjoyed most of this. My favourite film of his, and I'm glad he gets personal closure

[@sdnmkhn]

Make the Lex/Slade scene a mid credits scene, then take the Knightmare/Joker/Manhunter scene a post-credit "Chapter 8"

[@lexis4490]

That’s exactly how I felt.

[@Renoistic]

Agree with all of this.

[@lachlanbird6095]

almost half a decade speaking about this movie not to mention how long theyve been speaking about BvS

[@PittsburghSonido]

Probably a full decade given JL has been in the works for so long. 😂

[@HankMeldrum]

They've literally been talking about BvS since the podcast began.

[@PittsburghSonido]

@@HankMeldrum Exactly. Crazy, right? BvS and JL have been like the main theme of the Weekly Planet material.

[@darthwatto]

This and RLM just put out a vid for the snyder cut?!?!?! Today is a good day!

[@WayneManor666]

I know where i am going after i finished this one then.

[@redgordo9058]

@@WayneManor666 my exact thoughts

[@peterrandall6761]

I remember so little of the original movie that I thought this was a new movie

[@agentnacho2029]

Technically is

[@goodjoejoe]

I watched the two back to back and it surprised me how different the new one was.

[@Meme_Lor]

A few months ago I tried to watch the original but it was so boring that I stopped an hour in

[@leolegionlion890]

*Sees new Weekly Planet Episode *Insert Mr. Sunday screaming about Cyborg's line

[@desmondwilkerson1530]

I wanted darkseid to always have his arms folded behind his back unless in battle that alone makes him more testifying

[@qwertyferix]

Yeah, who knows what his hands could be doing back there?

[@cometmoon4485]

I just have an image now of him testifying against the Justice League in a courtroom.

[@chipbone8158]

Did you guys notice that when Darkside puts his hand on Superman’s shoulder during the revelation that it was cut and edited from Man of Steel after Superman kills Zod?

[@ryleynations6251]

It’s interesting because yeah it’s the same shot, but it also works as a parallel to Lois comforting him in MoS

[@vortexofweird]

why lock the creepy monster dude and his bug friends in a stone building and throw it in the ocean if he literally teleported in there? He's shown he can teleport?!?!?

[@PatheticApathetic]

You have to do something

[@siddharthkhirwar2351]

The Boom tube cannot teleport a person in and out if there is a physical barrier between the destination and the source. Collapsing the building was actually a sensible move since it would take Steppenwolf a good amount of time to move the thousands of tons of rubble out of the way to activate the tube.

[@vortexofweird]

@@siddharthkhirwar2351 I just learned right now that it’s called the boom tube and I love that.

[@lexis4490]

And the Queen was just standing there. I’m like, “Run!”

[@ryleynations6251]

They have few resources and are trying anything to make sure he either doesn’t get the motherbox, or at least delay him so the rest of the Amazon army can show up

[@Tim_Belay]

I'm one of the people who hates bvs and was not expecting to like this one but I got surprised. While some stuff is still dumb, especially in part 1 and epilog, in general the movie was okay. This one finally has hope instead of misery fest, even Batman, who was 1% obsessed murderer earlier, now talks about faith and that makes the watch so much nicer. Not enough Superman though and injustice plans for future don't sound promising. And thank god WB didn't let Zack make Bats hook up with Lois. Joker wasn't worth it either. But still, a nice surprise for someone who did not expect anything good at all

[@Alllex]

As a person who hasn’t really liked any of Snyder’s films, I thoroughly enjoyed his Justice League. I’m surprised Mason still calls it the worst DC film.

[@oisinodwyer5985]

Yeah I've tolerated synders movies but really enjoyed this. I kinda get it though if you're a bit fatigued of the whole thing then a 4 hour movie isn't the best remedy

[@assass1ngaming]

Mason is a static character

[@TheBackOfTheClassroom]

James enjoying this as much as he did is hilarious and adorable...I mean refreshing.

[@joker_views]

Maso disliking the Snyder Cut is very Maso of him

[@evanevans5428]

Why does AquaMan only remove his shirt yet leaves his pants and shoes on? Is there a pile of frozen shirts on that dock? Do the women who sang too long scoop them up like groupies? THESE ARE THE THINGS I NEEED TO KNOWWW

[@evanevans5428]

like if the cold CLEARLY doesn't affect you, why even wear one? The cost of one of those shirts could feed that entire village. Cuz let's be honest, that dude is either the King of the Ocean or Jason Mamoa. That shit aint exactly from Goodwill.

[@evanevans5428]

Maybe the groupies song goes on too long because they're pissed he keeps wasting all their good gucci shirts and it's been happening so often the song just gets longer and longer due to passive aggression. he's not leaving. He's running before the second chorus kicks in.

[@DrowzyDruid]

Ladies of the fishman jumpers is a Swedish folk band

[@ethanjannes7587]

Whoa so there are symmetrical scenes of men’s clothes in before scenes and after scenes and the women who care about them, dep

[@vortexofweird]

if Cyborg wanted to end wealth inequality in Gotham, he shouldn't have given a random woman $100,000. He should've just emptied Bruce Wayne's bank account.

[@DinerLingo]

Bruce Wayne has to be the worst businessman ever. The Kent house was foreclosed & available for pennies on the dollar, but instead he spends billions to buy the bank to acquire the house?

[@jonathanschmeh5709]

@@DinerLingo he had to get something out of it. He gets nothing by buying the house, buying the bank gives him the profits. So it looks like he did a great thing, but he actually made money off it.

[@vortexofweird]

@@jonathanschmeh5709 The man spent $25,000 to talk to a guy who was right in front of him. He needs to work on spending his money more sensibly lol.

[@vortexofweird]

@@Runethe Haha true

[@miliboy0522]

I thought that shit was dumb

[@Kit-ee7or]

My dad actually went to journalism school with Brad Pitt, he said that he sat at the back of the class and slept through the lessons.

[@chrissadler6459]

I believe it. Have you seen his movies?!

[@miliboy0522]

Mizzou baby

[@Kit-ee7or]

@@miliboy0522 Tigers 😎

[@raphaelturtle4146]

My dad slept with Brad Pitt after archeology school every wednesday. Brad Pitt is my mom.

[@Cnut_the_grape]

Can confirm. Am the bench.

[@RileyDia]

I cried when the flash finally got a friend, that fist bump

[@evanevans5428]

Im convinced an 18 year old who just went through a breakup assigned the sad pop ballads to each of the heros mini back stories. Like Sarah McLachlan singing over some caged dogs.

[@antaresclast7773]

Haw! My wife and I were making jokes about the score being done by a high school AV Club.

[@evanevans5428]

@@antaresclast7773 Yet when the League enters the sewers leading to Steppencucks underground layer, it's one of the coolest music to movie ratios I've ever been privy to. Heavy metal guitar chugs fixes 3 out 5 things in DCEU most times. usually.

[@JimmiePitts]

They were some of his dead daughters favorite songs............

[@cgijokerman5787]

@@JimmiePitts doesn't make it any less hammy and corny in the context of the movie.

[@JimmiePitts]

@@cgijokerman5787 dont worry I agree with you guys honestly. I just think it's sad when you put 2 and 2 together. It's much easier to laugh at when the facts arent known is all

[@The_RedVIII]

Start at the 3 hour mark? What is Mason talking about? They add so much in the first 3 hours. The whole Cyclops backstory, making him a character instead of just some robot guy being there. You basically say, just watch the final action scene? I think, while I still liked it, the final action scene is the most insignificant thing about the movie. Everything that happens in the first 3 hours is the best part about it.

[@vgr9495]

I’ve been waiting for this specific podcast my damn life lol

[@matthewcronin2325]

I’m sad that Mason hated it so much

[@joshmosh-sx7ej]

I was expecting him to, it was inevitable

[@matthewcronin2325]

It’s just a much better movie with faithful characterization. I mostly agree with them about BvS so I hoped we’d share this opinion as well.

[@whyequalswhat]

The characterization is fucking awful in this movie. Nobody is accurate.

[@matthewcronin2325]

@@whyequalswhat everyone is accurate. The least accurate one is Flash and this is his first week

[@whyequalswhat]

@@matthewcronin2325 really? I dont remember Batman being a giant Superman fanboy. Or Wonder Woman being a person who brutally murders people in front of small children. Or Aquaman being an annoying dudebro who happily pollutes the ocean. Or Cyborg being an immensily boring grim dark asshole. Or martian Manhunter being an idiot who doesnt help protect the planet for literally no reason.

[@johnnyvig14]

Why would those guys (in the Wonder Woman scene) who just wanted to blow up 4 street blocks put a timer on that bomb? And then Wonder Woman blasted him away instead of just stopping him. Love it

[@aitch2d2]

So the movie can happen.

[@johnnyvig14]

@@aitch2d2 yep, that makes sense

[@Meme_Lor]

When guy was shooting at her all I could think was "why can she just run and knockout punch him in the face?"

[@cgijokerman5787]

@@Meme_Lor oh my god, she's fast enough to block bullets, but she's not fast enough to STOP SOMEONE FROM RELOADING THEIR GUN?!

[@chivasowle286]

@@cgijokerman5787 the magic of slow motion video

[@trilltron2885]

I quite enjoyed it! I always thought it was going to be a limited series, so I viewed it as such, watching it over 3 days (2 parts per evening). Maybe because of this I didnt find it boring or long at all. Also, its full on comic book dorkiness but it leans into so hard and takes itself so seriously, gotta respect it for fully committing. Also agree that overall the scenes are just better paced and better shot. Zach Snyder def understands that the tension before an action moment is as important as the bang wiz punch itself.

[@MicoDossun]

When they dropped the Joker trailer I knew in my heart that the “we live in a society” line was just a marketing trick to appeal to the community that would watch Justice League ironically and yup it’s not in the movie and Snyder is a master director for that.

[@joker_views]

congratulate Jared Leto cuz it was his idea

[@Football__Junkie]

It was an ode to George Costanza

[@charlesgrimmer6486]

It still bothers me to no end how Cyborg randomly has an automatic defense mechanism he somehow can't override.

[@The9thPawn]

Cyborg's suit is made from Mother Box tech, and the Mother Boxes can identify when Krptonians are near and perceives them as a threat. When Steppenwolf starts the unity at the end of the movie the boxes don't respond to his command right away, he has to command them twice and then they reluctantly merge to start the unity because they can tell that Superman is alive again.

[@lexis4490]

Plus he is still learning his new body.

[@qwertyferix]

Give him a break. He got a brand new body and is going through cyborg puberty. He's still trying to figure out how his body works. We've all been there.

[@CommanderShepard341]

In this version cyborg seemed more wary of superman's resurrection (considering he also had a knightmare vision), so that's probably why he wasn't trying to control it in the first place. After all, he never said he couldnt control it in this version

[@highlad1586]

you two make my day when you upload, like the glimmer of light in this dark, cold world

[@johanstone]

is no one gonna talk about that stupid chanting they play everytime wonder woman appeared on screen??

[@niksmi22]

Oh my gosh yes!! It drove me and my sister crazy!

[@sauce8277]

*ANCIENT LAMENTATION*

[@DontEatGlass]

This... I've been needing this for some time...

[@NightmareproductionsOFFICIAL]

Kinda be cool if they rolled the nightmare stuff into flashpoint and that’s why barry creates the flashpoint reality.

[@lexis4490]

That’s what I thought they were going to do. But I think Snyder putting that nightmare scene in the epilogue because they are not doing it. It looks cool, despite me not wanting a scary Superman.

[@mishterkhalid3117]

i dont think they will. the reason warner bros. ditched zack snyder is because they wanted to move away from the serious and dark tone movies (like Mos, BvS) and they approach a more mainstream way of making movies while also being themselves and not copy marvel. the knightmare timeline is a very dark timeline (where superheroes kill each other). so no way warner bros. are gonna continue with that timeline.

[@DrowzyDruid]

@@conormurphy4328 which is a shame because I agree with the boys aho have said on multiple times that they believe, like myself, that Zak Synder would create a brilliant Injustice universe in films.

[@mr.fancypants666]

Flash spends so much time building his suit,he doesn't have time to learn how to run. Wonder Woman casually murders terrorists in front of kids. Atlanteans have advanced science and magic..Amazons have regular spears and a magic signal arrow??? Cyborg can see someone and instantly cyberstalk them. Cyborg's father doesn't need to be in the room to activate the laser. Martian Manhunter knows what's going on but..decides he'll show up for the next world ending event.

[@robimaki]

Slow mo Lois Lane getting coffee why

[@DylanSunkel]

It was in real time, she was just really worried about spilling it.

[@lexis4490]

She got her own song too.

[@JoeLouis628]

@@DylanSunkel well did you see the way she placed it? Was definitely going to fall off balance like that.

[@mariealexandrinne6997]

My biggest interrogation about this movie is: did I enjoy it for its own qualities, compared to the 2017 version, or because it's bloody March 2021and every ounce of fun is a blessing?

[@stefanlangenhoven78]

😂😂

[@ROBtimusPrimeReborn]

Mr Sunday Movies: The first half is meh, the 2nd half is great. RedLetterMedia: The first half is great, the 2nd half is meh. The more shocking part is that this film succeeded at all.

[@SchulzEricT]

"Succeeded"? It was definitely a movie. They succeeded a making a movie. A good movie? No.

[@jimjimjim6841]

While he was an absolute spaz, I loved Flash. The scene during the last battle was so good. Been listening to the ost for that scene on repeat.

[@TheDreamWyrm]

Can't tell if the Snyder Cut was actually good or just a thousand times better than the 2017 Justice League movie, could've done without the post apoloyptic weirdly shot Joker scene or the casual Martian Manhunter convo at the end. Also, I guess Bruce Wayne's plan is still to just turn Wayne Manor into the Hall of Justice and hope that somehow nobody notices that he's Batman.

[@R_A120]

If they cut the knightmare, the martian manhunter scenes, and tightened the editing/slow mo a little, the movie would have been a solid 3 and a half hours or so and would be better for it in my opinion

[@TheDreamWyrm]

@@R_A120 Totally agree

[@neonswift]

Fascinating how different people are perceiving justice league. I hated the original, I don't tend to like snyder movies but this felt really well paced, tonally spot on, and less goofy action scenes.

[@stefanfilipovits21]

What’s New? Sounds like our Spencer’s Gifts

[@jde7052]

Now you got to do a video of guess the bad review between Joss version and the Snyder Cut

[@Run-BMC]

About halfway through the podcast I really hope you caught that line when they were digging up Superman and Cyborg tell Flash he could dig him up in like 1 second

[@Rxmzy]

This ones a gem

[@DrowzyDruid]

Must G R A B

[@Maylott]

This week: Zack Snyder's Justice League. Podcast begins with a long discussion about farting. Yeah, that seems about right.

[@DrowzyDruid]

Takes me back to ep 1. Was only a month or so ago

[@The_RedVIII]

Honestly, I think Maso is nitpicking way too much. And I went into this movie not expecting anything, hating the original cut. But I was extremely pleasantly surprised.

[@scoobingtonmcwigglesnatch9985]

I’ve come to embrace the toxic entitlement of the Snyder movement when I say you truly can’t polish a turd. Is it better? Absolutely, but not by the price of HYPE admission. No matter how many cuts you make Justice League was never gonna work as a film because they refused to put in the time to make a movie for each character and coincide the grand scheme of the plot, hence the monstrous run time of this. The Derkseid scenes were great and Wonder Woman was back kicking ass but Flash still runs like a wet noodle as well as the overuse of slow-mo shots combined with the yelling lady soundtrack and the cringe dialogue at times leaves a lot to be desired (looking at the scientist with the random boner joke and most of Flash’s lines) Moral of the story, don’t let entitled Twitter crazies get their way.

[@muchadoaboutnerdthings4895]

Thank god I am not the only one who thought that sweater sniffing scene was crazy 😂

[@nicholasbiddle7893]

I cant believe they had willem dafoe and they chose to use him for the fish guy instead of the joker!....Jared Leto? What were they thinking?!

[@DylanSunkel]

We almost had him back in 89' and I'm so disappointed, as much as I love Jack Nicholson's portrayal.

[@DrowzyDruid]

Yeah, absolutely agree - a costly mistake

[@Bkbw82]

Many of the scenes are better but sheesh, there’s no chance this would of been a 4 hour film for Cinema first time round.

[@DylanSunkel]

Definitely not. But as they were saying, it's strange that they didn't just take what was already filmed and cut it down. There'd certainly be some scenes with missing context clues, but I feel like the 2017 release still had that problem even with reshoots. I would've been fine with a 3hr theatrical release of this and then an Ultimate Cut for dvd/digital release at 4hrs for the more diehard fans to watch, similar to BvS.

[@saladdodger4722]

@@DylanSunkel Personally I think Warner wanted less than 3 hours, they wanted it the length of the Theatrical release and I don't think it'd be possible to cut it down to 2-2.5 hours without making a mess.

[@DylanSunkel]

@@saladdodger4722 Very true, I had also heard about how hard they wanted just 2. I'd be curious to see an editor take the Snyder Cut and attempt a two-hour version for fun and see how logical it is.

[@saladdodger4722]

@@DylanSunkelWhilst I would be interested to see how well it works I have no doubt it would be significantly worse, you would lose too many little character moments that I think personally add so much.

[@DylanSunkel]

@@saladdodger4722 100% agree.

[@wifi-toaster]

"Pietro Maximoff" as Ace Ventura was a bold decision to bring mutants in

[@jarredcaris6394]

Great review as always. I loved it but agree with alot of the things you pointed out. I think I'm just happy to see characters i enjoy on the screen. Liked it alot more than endgame but still think infinity war is as perfect a team up movie we will ever get. Keep up the good work guys

[@claytonbigsby381]

Love these guys

[@saladdodger4722]

I think if anyone is on the fence about the 4 hour run time I would suggest taking a break after the end of the first 3 chapters.You can either carry on if you are in the groove or watch the rest again later.

[@lexis4490]

That’s a good idea. There is also an argument to be made to start at chapter 3.

[@NightmareproductionsOFFICIAL]

Disney should genuinely put the Star Wars holiday special on Disney plus but retitle it: ‘The terrible, cheap Star Wars holiday special that everyone hates.’ I think that’d genuinely get a lot of ppl watching it.

[@ryansmith-jr4gn]

Wonder Woman saying "Kal-El NO!" is the worst line delivery since Sindel saying "Too bad YOU... WILL DIE"! in Mortal Kombat Annihilation.

[@henrychinaski5938]

She’s a terrible actress . I still have no idea how she gets cast in anything lol

[@BlibbertyBlobberty]

Got my lanyard ready

[@cwc5085]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed Steppenwolf had cute eyes in the Snyder Cut as well. The TC gave him kind old man eyes and this one gave him kitty-cat eyes LOL

[@skilledwarman]

im shocked James even considered playing the King Kong game. its notorious for two things: -being really easy to 100% the achievement list since you just need to beat it once -being really hard to 100% the achievement list since you just need to beat it once, but its REALLY bad

[@BarberJ95]

Still haven’t seen it so I figure in 2022 I’ll listen to this first lMao. Thx Jimmy 🐐 & Nicky! 🚋

[@WeeklyPlanetPodcast]

Thank you just happy to be doing the most important work there is!

[@BarberJ95]

Indeed, OMG they got my letters lol. I’m starstruck legitimately! If it’s Ben, Collings or even Mr. Scumbag Movies himself 🤩 you’re the GR8’st of M8S and thank y’all so much you’ve helped me through so much. As an queer indigenous guy I always feel welcome, it’s PC gone mad! ♥️

[@niall0423]

James’ Superman scream impression...brilliant 😂

[@Jonnycrs]

I mean I can understand why WB executives didn't want this movie in the cinemas. This was a 4-hour long movie that doesn't have a conventional storytelling style and was only part one of two. The Snyder Cut heavily works to set up future movies & Darkseid. The entire 10 min epilogue is only there to set up future franchises. This was very clearly the Infinity War to Endgame.

[@lexis4490]

It was like Avengers 2012, Infinity War and two other movies 😂.

[@extonjonas6820]

Well if zack snyder got to make his movie, it would not have been this. It would have been 2 and half hours at most and rightfully so. This movie is way too long.

[@DrowzyDruid]

Except it was shit

[@J.O.R.D]

Why did Steppenwolf have that same convo with Desaad? I was like whatttt? You’ve already told him about people having the scent of mother boxes and what not, why you doing this 😂 and yeah those googly eyes Steppenwolf has, I seen that as a GIF and thought it was fake! They are real 🤣🤣

[@stefanfilipovits21]

For WWR/WWGR check out issue 1 of James Bond: Agent Of Spectre sometime. It’s really interesting, Blofeld hires Bond to help him quash a Spectre civil war. Can’t wait to see where it goes.

[@RodrigoMartinez-yi3bx]

When James said I could just jump to the justice league part I immediately thought of old Steve saying “no, no I don’t think I will”

[@georgesams4704]

At 33 mins someone on the internet is finally grown up enough to tell it like it is, thank god for Maso

[@alexanderscott344]

I hadn't been keen on the black suit idea, but when I watched it I thought it strongly implied that it was some sort of solar power collecting suit (since he flies up to sunbathe in orbit right after) which I loved, 'cos I love when they do stuff for reasons rather than just fan service. Of course, not explaining why he's wearing the black suit in words of one syllable (just implying the reason via visuals instead) illustrates the problem film makers have with that sort of stuff: explain and people complain that it was obvious anyway (like Batman's laser-proof gauntlets), don't explain and people complain that there's no reason behind it at all if they miss the implied reasoning.

[@shwndrws7785]

Love Nic's seething contempt for this movie and frustration with the mass hysterics it takes to dismiss what's obvi illogical

[@JGWoofWoof]

Bruce also said congratulation to Clark when he gets the house back. like oh by the way, way to get Louis pregnant. it had nothing to do with the house.

[@mariealexandrinne6997]

I wondered if it was about the baby or the engagement.

[@harryflorin2370]

Louis?

[@qwertyferix]

Sure, like Louis is going to just let someone get him pregnant after losing the family farm. 🙄

[@jakubrejak1114]

Just like Dr Strange casually congratulating Tony and Pepper on the wedding in Infinity War.

[@eomerseored]

man, this ending reminds me that I really need more "james yells about a thing" things in my life!

[@jde7052]

I’d watch the cut version within a week. I’ve already seen this version twice and quarter

[@blakethompson-dodd9874]

As movies, the sequels could never get 4 hour cuts, but with this as a 6 chapter series, I could really see the sequels working really well as the same. I think Snyder needs the time; BvS, even the extended edition, needed more time to breathe and really explore the main characters. As someone who wasn't a big fan of MoS or BvS, and assumed the Snyder cut was going to be a slower version of the theatrical cut, I'm suddenly very interested in seeing this concluded.

[@DanteYewToob]

The thing about the Bat Gauntlets wasn't that they were treating the audience dumb. If you pay attention, the point was that Batman saw Diana use her gauntlets in BvS, liked them and wanted a pair. He and Alfred were attempting to recreate mythological tech. That's why Diana makes a joke about maybe making him a lasso and shield too... lol she was a bit salty that Batman was ripping her shit off! Hahaha

[@brett66]

I'm glad we've reached the point culturally where basic tonal and visual consistency is now cause for celebration. It may no longer be a studio-bastardized Frankenstein's Monster, but it's still a dour, stakesless, LOTR-derivative, McGuffin Hunt.

[@lockdownguru2632]

ALL IN BABYYY

[@dpenlow]

I just listened to your commentary of the original theatrical release of Justice League, and I think there's a lot more that you appreciate in the Snyder cut than you realize. A large majority of your complaints in the commentary were fixed in the new release, but I don't blame you at all for blocking the memories of that film from your minds. I had forgotten how bad it really was until I just re-watched it.

[@xavmanisdabestest]

1:39:00 List of great dubs that i actually prefer to their sub counterpart. Fate zero Bacanno Cowboy bepop Naruto Dragonball Panty and stocking Gurren lagann Probably all ginax shows actually they have solid dubs. There's probably more.

[@aitch2d2]

Thing that bothered me most about the Snyder Cut? Why did Martha Kent pack up a U-Haul van, but didn't take her deceased son's shirts with her? Seems a bit heartless.

[@extonjonas6820]

lol

[@doriandegrandez8886]

Was listening to this in my sleep and woke up because I was laughing at a joke

[@Destroyerz117]

I hadn't seen the original justice league so this was the first version I watched. I thought it was alright, overall I enjoyed it, even if it would be a better movie if it was cut down to some extent. There is some stuff that really bugged the hell out of me though SPOILERS! - - - - - - - - - The opening of movie was very strong up until the amazon fight scene where it fell apart. I felt like the amazon fight scene was very badly edited and would have been much better trimmed down, I don't need to see 6 different shots of amazon queen lady riding her horse in a straight line OK, including this weird sort of face-cam she has? There was also a part in the temple where she's talking to one of her mates, every time they say a line they turn around and then turn back to SAY ONE WORD AND THEN SPIN AROUND AGAIN, THIS WENT ON FOR AFULL CONVERSATION WHAT IS HAPPENING? I gotta say it...the villains are just bad.. Steppenwolf just comes across as kind of an idiot he's making generic monster grunts the entire time and I could barely understand what he's saying through his thick accent and heavy processing on his voice. I couldn't take the guy seriously, is he meant to be threatening?? He also has just the WORST most generic bad guy monologues ever.. like its hard to understand how anyone could write this dialogue and think its good. Even Darkseid, in the flashback he won't shut the fuck up, he's just grunting and roaring the entire time. That said the fact I hated Steppenwolf so much meant that when they finally pummeled the ever living shit out of him at the end it was all the more satisfying, probs my fav sequence in the movie. I really liked cyborg, he was probably my favorite character. Batman didn't really do anything inside of fights he just drove around..and kind of walked everywhere before awkwardly using his grappling hook. I Hated the flash, I found him very annoying AND WHY doesn't this man know how to run!? WTF IS HE DOING I CAN"T EVEN

[@meloD30]

I find the general response to the Snyder cut fascinating, I'm glad ppl love it but I don't get it myself. Seems like this benefits hugely by the comparison to a truncated version that awkwardly jammed 2 very different visions together. But Synder League is only okay when viewed in isolation, at least for me. One thing is for sure. This film is the most Zack Snyder thing I've ever seen, and I've seen Zack Snyder.

[@crashingatom6755]

I was very ready to be let down by this, as with most of the DCEU stuff, but I had a blast. It was long, but I'm used to wating 8-13 episodes of everything now. So I loved it. The fixed a ton of bad characterization and made a coherent plot, and they left open the door for awesome things to come. I'll watch it again for sure.

[@danielwarner3675]

whew, at 1:39:00 and i almost thought we'd be getting quality entertainment