Zack Snyder's Justice League - The Weekly Planet Podcast

[@vortexofweird]

I’m gonna listen to this podcast in slo-mo to make it last longer.

[@dynastyfamily00]

You should submit your application to be the new head of creative on the DCSeeyou-verse. You have exactly what they want!

[@TheLegoJungle]

And then message James about how listening to the pod at half speed “makes him sound drunk,” like all the other hundred people did back in the day.

[@BeelerzebubSA]

@Conor Murphy I wish I could do shit at double speed to make myself exist half as long

[@trashboat1829]

Boy let me just say that scene where cyborg finally said maclunkey like in the old trailers really got me.

[@wallwrittR]

I sure loved the scene where Corn of the Coblin stepped on Steppinwolf’s head

[@ki-seonpeck9069]

I hope this review serves as a perfect example of two people with drastically different views on the Snyder Cut having a civil and respectful discussion on why they feel the way they do.

[@richardabraham1101]

The internet: no

[@DylanSunkel]

Thing is, these two are friends, where as everyone on the internet sees themselves as enemies. Though maybe they'll punch for a bit and then be mates.

[@jacksonperez5615]

Doesn’t matter when your friends

[@andymc96]

@@DylanSunkel after finding out their mum's have the same name.

[@lexis4490]

And they both makes sense. But nah 🤣

[@jojaham]

I've never been more ready for a podcast in my life!!

[@RileyDia]

The anticipation is electric!

[@siguanabo69]

For real!

[@quitequaintq5830]

Same here, I'm so hyped!! 😆 These guys are hilarious.

[@splashofcitrus66]

I was expecting more excitement from Mason after hyping up the “You should probably move line”

[@christophercano8032]

I had a near religious experience when Martian Manhunter popped up and did absolutely nothing for 2 minutes of screen time. Completely changed and elevated the film. 10/10

[@cgijokerman5787]

I had a near death experience with how they absolutely obliterated my favourite character into just fan service. HES ARGUABLY AS STRONG AS SUPERMAN WHY HASNT HE DONE ANYTHING AHHHH

[@rudayyy13]

@@cgijokerman5787 EXACTLY!!!

[@christophercano8032]

@@cgijokerman5787 yo, that "make your own future, make your own past" monologue Barry gave was v deep poetry. I haven't been that emotional since Jean Grey said "my emotions make me strong" at the end of Dark Phoenix.

[@cgijokerman5787]

@@christophercano8032 the only time i was more emotional than that scene was when WW went "Kal-el no!"

[@lexis4490]

@@cgijokerman5787 What are you talking about? He got Lois back into journalism 🤣

[@martinnaranjo3185]

Fockin hated it Well i fockin loved it Maso v Sunday: Dawn of Podcasting

[@DrowzyDruid]

Ironic as it was actually how they started, come to think of it - it's a more well developed story arc than the film

[@audoodle9963]

The best line in the movie was definitely when Batman said “Everyone this is Alfred I work for him.” No idea why Whedon cut that. It’s almost a whedon line already. It’s better then all the flash jokes he did.

[@elitepower4057]

But what is brunch???

[@Meme_Lor]

I fucking love that line, also I want more scenes of Bruce Wayne being awkward socially, its kinda adorable

[@ravenkarlin]

@@elitepower4057 “what is brunch if not breakfast persevering?”

[@darnellafrance3591]

@@ravenkarlin oh god

[@doomstadt2371]

Whedon got handed notes and a paycheck and did a job. That whole first version reeks of "just doing what they tell me for money". And honestly, I can't blame him. Make that money you fucking creep, you got lawyers to hire.

[@trilltron2885]

When Flash breaks the glass of the dog shop its so friggin cool how it bends almost like a liquid moments before shattering.

[@Drawnartist]

Yeah awesome

[@lexis4490]

And it was different from other speedsters.

[@scoobingtonmcwigglesnatch9985]

And then how he creepily caresses Iris before dangling a hot dog on her face, some good stuff!

[@scoobingtonmcwigglesnatch9985]

@Pranav M He literally runs like a wet noodle...I personally find this flash insufferable and cringe city. Really ruined both Whedon and Snyder cuts for me

[@tobylerone4285]

@@scoobingtonmcwigglesnatch9985 he doesn’t creepily caress her, he has to gently let her down because she’s only human, he would rip her apart if he just caught her at that speed

[@PigMan161]

The classic James opinion of “I had fun with it”

[@anothercleverusername992]

And the classic Maso opinion of, _"I HATE this DC Universe."

[@PittsburghSonido]

“Release the maclunkey cut” is my favorite

[@LoganBluth]

@@anothercleverusername992 He loved Wonder Woman and was fairly positive about Shazam and Aquaman, if I remember correctly. I think it's more he just doesn't like Zack Snyder's general filmmaking style, which, to be fair, IS a very specific taste. 🤷‍♂️

[@benedicto2031]

@@LoganBluth is it a specific taste when everyone loves this movie?

[@LoganBluth]

@@benedicto2031 I don't know if I'd agree that EVERYONE loves the movie. It's definitely better than the 2017 JL, and people who are already Zack Snyder fans definitely love it, but the general gist seems to be: Enjoyable, good comic book movie, too long. I mean, let's keep this in perspective, it's not universally beloved like an Empire Strikes Back or a Jurassic Park, it's a good movie, but it's not for everyone. 🤷‍♂️

[@oops6876]

I’m glad someone else finally brought up Steppenwolf’s big kawaii eyes

[@DrowzyDruid]

What? The pigtails didn't tip you off?

[@steveknoxville5224]

"You should probably move" - Cyborg

[@DylanSunkel]

The only thing missing from that scene is him winking to the camera and saying softly "That's for you James and Maso"

[@AwesomeEnterpriseInc]

@@DylanSunkel Release the Maso cut!

[@TheConGaminator]

I was like YEAAHH when that line came up My dad sorta looked at me like "I love this movie and there's so much cool stuff to like, and you get excited about this one line? Okay, suit yourself" 😋

[@shelbyvillerules9962]

On the subject of slow-mo, throughout the movie I couldn't help but keep thinking about that line in Garth Marenghi's Darkplace when Richard Ayoade says, "We tried to keep the slow motion away from dialogue as much as possible, but anything without dialogue was considered for slow motion"

[@deveshsood6087]

If we don't get some h8 mail from this, I will be extremely dissapointed

[@lyndsaybrown8471]

Maybe they will each send one in against the other's opinion

[@jussts]

Snyder fans do not disappoint when it comes to h8 mail.

[@t0k3verse]

We? Who the hell are you?

[@battleupsaber462]

Everybody's losing it over Cyborg saying his famous line, meanwhile I'm over here hyped that Martian Manhunter said "Defenders of the Earth"

[@stefanfilipovits21]

DEFENDERS!

[@MatiProbably]

OUTTA THE SKYY THEIR ROCKETS IGNITE

[@thedeadlynose5127]

@@stefanfilipovits21 beat me too it 😂

[@linkdk59]

You should probably move

[@DrowzyDruid]

JETS INTO BATTLE, FLIES FASTER THAN LIGHT, FLASH GORDON!

[@DinerLingo]

The Mother Boxes were the least "well-guarded" super-computer-weapons ever. One was in a coat closet (then buried in a hole a foot deep) & the other two were displayed out in the open on giant plinths like they were in a museum. Why weren't they encased in tons of concrete & buried miles in the earth? Or at the bottom of the Mariana Trench? Or shot into the sun thousands of years ago? Remind me to never ask a DC character to guard something for me.

[@lexis4490]

There was one point with the Atlanteans that I thought they were going to hide the mother box in an octopus stomach. I thought that was cool, but nah. We are going to put it on display.

[@qwertyferix]

Nobody would expect them to be hidden out in the open with sub-par defenses. 🧠

[@ryleynations6251]

Tell me how they would shoot something into the sun “thousands of years ago”

[@ChewyTLado]

@@ryleynations6251 get a green lantern to throw it into the sun

[@DrowzyDruid]

@@ChewyTLado absolutely agree - there were also gods present at the Battle - you're telling me they couldn't have hidden it anywhere better

[@faheemali3550]

"are you mad I like this?" 😂😂

[@santiagolagomarsino7360]

Maso is such a Zack Snyder hater

[@jimjam7928]

@@santiagolagomarsino7360 He's not wrong about this film though.

[@faheemali3550]

@@santiagolagomarsino7360 nothing wrong with not liking something as long as you ain't a dick about it. Which maso isn't

[@adotgif]

Love Maso and didn't love this film but he REALLY didn't let James talk

[@extonjonas6820]

@@santiagolagomarsino7360 Sometimes people don't like people because they don't think they are good. Hater implies that it is unjustified, sometimes people don't like things

[@munohlow]

We finally got that classic Batman line “I will fucking kill you” Also I’d love an Alita game lesdoit

[@DrowzyDruid]

@@conormurphy4328 these deserves way more likes hahaha

[@JohnSmith-qy2fh]

@@conormurphy4328 I’d say “You die now...AGH” is the more iconic Prime line

[@anenemystand5582]

@@conormurphy4328 "give me your face"

[@jackrichardson7020]

I feel like there's a perfect 3-3.5 hour fanedit of this that cuts the Knightmare, Martian Manhunter, Lex/Slade scene, musical montages, speeds up a lot of the slo-mo, the Icelandic chanting and generally trims a lot of scenes. Still, as a big DC fan and Snyder detractor I really enjoyed most of this. My favourite film of his, and I'm glad he gets personal closure

[@sdnmkhn]

Make the Lex/Slade scene a mid credits scene, then take the Knightmare/Joker/Manhunter scene a post-credit "Chapter 8"

[@lexis4490]

That’s exactly how I felt.

[@Renoistic]

Agree with all of this.

[@mattthomas2078]

As someone who didn't bother watching the 2017 version, I thought this was well paced and worked as a film. But if it needed to be that long to feel properly fleshed out, then it probably wasn't the right time to make a Justice league film. If the cyborg stuff had been explored in his own film first, this wouldn't have needed to spend so long on him for example.

[@pachanas703]

That's a really good point. The movie felt a lot better to me in large part because everything felt so fully explored. But yeah, a big chunk of that time is spent on Cyborg and his relationship with his father.

[@doomstadt2371]

I feel the Cyborg origin was the only one that did belong in the movie because it actually relates to the plot, if anyone needed his story resolved before this, it was Flash. None of his personal scenes were necessary for this movie, and having two "new guy does good/love you dad" stories competing for attention kinda flattened them both for me. The "travel into the digital world" scenes were embarassing though. It was a better version, but overall still an ugly movie with characters that are hard to care about as they're presented.

[@lexis4490]

@@doomstadt2371 it’s funny because I actually liked the flash story because it made me believe he would want to join a strange team. And I think Cyborg story could be trimmed down. I didn’t need all the flashbacks.

[@ItaloGordz]

Cyborg storyline was the heart of the movie to me

[@professorduckford4787]

I like how grumpy Maso seems to have been made by this movie lmao

[@Redkurtain]

It’s like Snyder hurt him in some way

[@LouerTube]

'Amy Adams, Making Coffee' 'Homer Simpson, Smiling Politely'

[@lachlanbird6095]

almost half a decade speaking about this movie not to mention how long theyve been speaking about BvS

[@PittsburghSonido]

Probably a full decade given JL has been in the works for so long. 😂

[@HankMeldrum]

They've literally been talking about BvS since the podcast began.

[@PittsburghSonido]

@@HankMeldrum Exactly. Crazy, right? BvS and JL have been like the main theme of the Weekly Planet material.

[@Maluboyy97]

man Mason really hated everything about this movie! I mean he even hated Flash trying on different hats lol

[@peterrandall6761]

I remember so little of the original movie that I thought this was a new movie

[@agentnacho2029]

Technically is

[@goodjoejoe]

I watched the two back to back and it surprised me how different the new one was.

[@Meme_Lor]

A few months ago I tried to watch the original but it was so boring that I stopped an hour in

[@TheBackOfTheClassroom]

James enjoying this as much as he did is hilarious and adorable...I mean refreshing.

[@suburban_squatch]

This and RLM just put out a vid for the snyder cut?!?!?! Today is a good day!

[@WayneManor666]

I know where i am going after i finished this one then.

[@redgordo9058]

@@WayneManor666 my exact thoughts

[@chipbone8158]

Did you guys notice that when Darkside puts his hand on Superman’s shoulder during the revelation that it was cut and edited from Man of Steel after Superman kills Zod?

[@ryleynations6251]

It’s interesting because yeah it’s the same shot, but it also works as a parallel to Lois comforting him in MoS

[@Tim_Belay]

I'm one of the people who hates bvs and was not expecting to like this one but I got surprised. While some stuff is still dumb, especially in part 1 and epilog, in general the movie was okay. This one finally has hope instead of misery fest, even Batman, who was 1% obsessed murderer earlier, now talks about faith and that makes the watch so much nicer. Not enough Superman though and injustice plans for future don't sound promising. And thank god WB didn't let Zack make Bats hook up with Lois. Joker wasn't worth it either. But still, a nice surprise for someone who did not expect anything good at all

[@Kit-ee7or]

My dad actually went to journalism school with Brad Pitt, he said that he sat at the back of the class and slept through the lessons.

[@chrissadler6459]

I believe it. Have you seen his movies?!

[@miliboy0522]

Mizzou baby

[@Kit-ee7or]

@@miliboy0522 Tigers 😎

[@raphaelturtle4146]

My dad slept with Brad Pitt after archeology school every wednesday. Brad Pitt is my mom.

[@Cnut_the_grape]

Can confirm. Am the bench.

[@Alllex]

As a person who hasn’t really liked any of Snyder’s films, I thoroughly enjoyed his Justice League. I’m surprised Mason still calls it the worst DC film.

[@oisinodwyer5985]

Yeah I've tolerated synders movies but really enjoyed this. I kinda get it though if you're a bit fatigued of the whole thing then a 4 hour movie isn't the best remedy

[@assass1ngaming]

Mason is a static character

[@evanevans5428]

Im convinced an 18 year old who just went through a breakup assigned the sad pop ballads to each of the heros mini back stories. Like Sarah McLachlan singing over some caged dogs.

[@antaresclast7773]

Haw! My wife and I were making jokes about the score being done by a high school AV Club.

[@evanevans5428]

@@antaresclast7773 Yet when the League enters the sewers leading to Steppencucks underground layer, it's one of the coolest music to movie ratios I've ever been privy to. Heavy metal guitar chugs fixes 3 out 5 things in DCEU most times. usually.

[@JimmiePitts]

They were some of his dead daughters favorite songs............

[@cgijokerman5787]

@@JimmiePitts doesn't make it any less hammy and corny in the context of the movie.

[@JimmiePitts]

@@cgijokerman5787 dont worry I agree with you guys honestly. I just think it's sad when you put 2 and 2 together. It's much easier to laugh at when the facts arent known is all

[@desmondwilkerson1530]

I wanted darkseid to always have his arms folded behind his back unless in battle that alone makes him more testifying

[@qwertyferix]

Yeah, who knows what his hands could be doing back there?

[@cometmoon4485]

I just have an image now of him testifying against the Justice League in a courtroom.

[@vortexofweird]

if Cyborg wanted to end wealth inequality in Gotham, he shouldn't have given a random woman $100,000. He should've just emptied Bruce Wayne's bank account.

[@DinerLingo]

Bruce Wayne has to be the worst businessman ever. The Kent house was foreclosed & available for pennies on the dollar, but instead he spends billions to buy the bank to acquire the house?

[@jonathanschmeh5709]

@@DinerLingo he had to get something out of it. He gets nothing by buying the house, buying the bank gives him the profits. So it looks like he did a great thing, but he actually made money off it.

[@vortexofweird]

@@jonathanschmeh5709 The man spent $25,000 to talk to a guy who was right in front of him. He needs to work on spending his money more sensibly lol.

[@vortexofweird]

@@Runethe Haha true

[@miliboy0522]

I thought that shit was dumb

[@MicoDossun]

When they dropped the Joker trailer I knew in my heart that the “we live in a society” line was just a marketing trick to appeal to the community that would watch Justice League ironically and yup it’s not in the movie and Snyder is a master director for that.

[@joker_views]

congratulate Jared Leto cuz it was his idea

[@Football__Junkie]

It was an ode to George Costanza

[@joker_views]

Maso disliking the Snyder Cut is very Maso of him

[@evanevans5428]

Why does AquaMan only remove his shirt yet leaves his pants and shoes on? Is there a pile of frozen shirts on that dock? Do the women who sang too long scoop them up like groupies? THESE ARE THE THINGS I NEEED TO KNOWWW

[@evanevans5428]

like if the cold CLEARLY doesn't affect you, why even wear one? The cost of one of those shirts could feed that entire village. Cuz let's be honest, that dude is either the King of the Ocean or Jason Mamoa. That shit aint exactly from Goodwill.

[@evanevans5428]

Maybe the groupies song goes on too long because they're pissed he keeps wasting all their good gucci shirts and it's been happening so often the song just gets longer and longer due to passive aggression. he's not leaving. He's running before the second chorus kicks in.

[@DrowzyDruid]

Ladies of the fishman jumpers is a Swedish folk band

[@ethanjannes7587]

Whoa so there are symmetrical scenes of men’s clothes in before scenes and after scenes and the women who care about them, dep

[@RileyDia]

I cried when the flash finally got a friend, that fist bump

[@leolegionlion890]

*Sees new Weekly Planet Episode *Insert Mr. Sunday screaming about Cyborg's line

[@LibertyBridgeProductions]

Kinda be cool if they rolled the nightmare stuff into flashpoint and that’s why barry creates the flashpoint reality.

[@lexis4490]

That’s what I thought they were going to do. But I think Snyder putting that nightmare scene in the epilogue because they are not doing it. It looks cool, despite me not wanting a scary Superman.

[@mishterkhalid3117]

i dont think they will. the reason warner bros. ditched zack snyder is because they wanted to move away from the serious and dark tone movies (like Mos, BvS) and they approach a more mainstream way of making movies while also being themselves and not copy marvel. the knightmare timeline is a very dark timeline (where superheroes kill each other). so no way warner bros. are gonna continue with that timeline.

[@DrowzyDruid]

@@conormurphy4328 which is a shame because I agree with the boys aho have said on multiple times that they believe, like myself, that Zak Synder would create a brilliant Injustice universe in films.

[@vortexofweird]

why lock the creepy monster dude and his bug friends in a stone building and throw it in the ocean if he literally teleported in there? He's shown he can teleport?!?!?

[@PatheticApathetic]

You have to do something

[@siddharthkhirwar2351]

The Boom tube cannot teleport a person in and out if there is a physical barrier between the destination and the source. Collapsing the building was actually a sensible move since it would take Steppenwolf a good amount of time to move the thousands of tons of rubble out of the way to activate the tube.

[@vortexofweird]

@@siddharthkhirwar2351 I just learned right now that it’s called the boom tube and I love that.

[@lexis4490]

And the Queen was just standing there. I’m like, “Run!”

[@ryleynations6251]

They have few resources and are trying anything to make sure he either doesn’t get the motherbox, or at least delay him so the rest of the Amazon army can show up

[@johnnyvig14]

Why would those guys (in the Wonder Woman scene) who just wanted to blow up 4 street blocks put a timer on that bomb? And then Wonder Woman blasted him away instead of just stopping him. Love it

[@aitch2d2]

So the movie can happen.

[@johnnyvig14]

@@aitch2d2 yep, that makes sense

[@Meme_Lor]

When guy was shooting at her all I could think was "why can she just run and knockout punch him in the face?"

[@cgijokerman5787]

@@Meme_Lor oh my god, she's fast enough to block bullets, but she's not fast enough to STOP SOMEONE FROM RELOADING THEIR GUN?!

[@chivasowle286]

@@cgijokerman5787 the magic of slow motion video

[@charlesgrimmer6486]

It still bothers me to no end how Cyborg randomly has an automatic defense mechanism he somehow can't override.

[@The9thPawn]

Cyborg's suit is made from Mother Box tech, and the Mother Boxes can identify when Krptonians are near and perceives them as a threat. When Steppenwolf starts the unity at the end of the movie the boxes don't respond to his command right away, he has to command them twice and then they reluctantly merge to start the unity because they can tell that Superman is alive again.

[@lexis4490]

Plus he is still learning his new body.

[@qwertyferix]

Give him a break. He got a brand new body and is going through cyborg puberty. He's still trying to figure out how his body works. We've all been there.

[@CommanderShepard341]

In this version cyborg seemed more wary of superman's resurrection (considering he also had a knightmare vision), so that's probably why he wasn't trying to control it in the first place. After all, he never said he couldnt control it in this version

[@mariealexandrinne6997]

My biggest interrogation about this movie is: did I enjoy it for its own qualities, compared to the 2017 version, or because it's bloody March 2021and every ounce of fun is a blessing?

[@stefanlangenhoven78]

😂😂

[@jde7052]

Now you got to do a video of guess the bad review between Joss version and the Snyder Cut

[@Run-BMC]

About halfway through the podcast I really hope you caught that line when they were digging up Superman and Cyborg tell Flash he could dig him up in like 1 second

[@wifi-toaster]

"Pietro Maximoff" as Ace Ventura was a bold decision to bring mutants in

[@jimjimjim6841]

While he was an absolute spaz, I loved Flash. The scene during the last battle was so good. Been listening to the ost for that scene on repeat.

[@robimakisama]

Slow mo Lois Lane getting coffee why

[@DylanSunkel]

It was in real time, she was just really worried about spilling it.

[@lexis4490]

She got her own song too.

[@JoeLouis628]

@@DylanSunkel well did you see the way she placed it? Was definitely going to fall off balance like that.

[@ROBtimusPrimeReborn]

Mr Sunday Movies: The first half is meh, the 2nd half is great. RedLetterMedia: The first half is great, the 2nd half is meh. The more shocking part is that this film succeeded at all.

[@SchulzEricT]

"Succeeded"? It was definitely a movie. They succeeded a making a movie. A good movie? No.

[@The_RedVIII]

Start at the 3 hour mark? What is Mason talking about? They add so much in the first 3 hours. The whole Cyclops backstory, making him a character instead of just some robot guy being there. You basically say, just watch the final action scene? I think, while I still liked it, the final action scene is the most insignificant thing about the movie. Everything that happens in the first 3 hours is the best part about it.

[@vgr9495]

I’ve been waiting for this specific podcast my damn life lol

[@BarberJ95]

Still haven’t seen it so I figure in 2022 I’ll listen to this first lMao. Thx Jimmy 🐐 & Nicky! 🚋

[@WeeklyPlanetPodcast]

Thank you just happy to be doing the most important work there is!

[@BarberJ95]

Indeed, OMG they got my letters lol. I’m starstruck legitimately! If it’s Ben, Collings or even Mr. Scumbag Movies himself 🤩 you’re the GR8’st of M8S and thank y’all so much you’ve helped me through so much. As an queer indigenous guy I always feel welcome, it’s PC gone mad! ♥️

[@saladdodger4722]

I think if anyone is on the fence about the 4 hour run time I would suggest taking a break after the end of the first 3 chapters.You can either carry on if you are in the groove or watch the rest again later.

[@lexis4490]

That’s a good idea. There is also an argument to be made to start at chapter 3.

[@LibertyBridgeProductions]

Disney should genuinely put the Star Wars holiday special on Disney plus but retitle it: ‘The terrible, cheap Star Wars holiday special that everyone hates.’ I think that’d genuinely get a lot of ppl watching it.

[@vishalthefirst4140]

I'm completely on Mason's side on this movie It was an unbearable movie after watching the 2017 cut I guarantee you that if Snyder got to release the 2 hour theatrical cut of this movie in 2017, it would be just as bad as the whedon cut. Snyder will lose his mind at the editing table just like he did with the theatrical cut of BvS

[@pachanas703]

Mason's reaction really surprised me, especially him saying this is still the worst DC film. It has its flaws (excessive slow mo, dragged out ending, Knightmare scene, etc.) but I think Snyder really succeeded overall. I watched it with family who have varying degrees of interest and fondness for super hero movies, and everyone enjoyed it. I would go so far as to say this is better than the first Avengers movie in almost every way, particularly with regard to making all the characters feel like they mattered in the final battle. That scene with The Flash reversing time was just beautifully done and a kind of perfect example of what kinds of peaks you can reach with these kinds of characters.

[@neonswift]

Fascinating how different people are perceiving justice league. I hated the original, I don't tend to like snyder movies but this felt really well paced, tonally spot on, and less goofy action scenes.

[@dylanburton4955]

I just wish the slow mo scenes weren’t so overly long cuz some worked but others were just annoying cuz of how long they were Especially the Wonder Woman scenes with that annoying score that plays everytime for her

[@TheDreamWyrm]

Can't tell if the Snyder Cut was actually good or just a thousand times better than the 2017 Justice League movie, could've done without the post apoloyptic weirdly shot Joker scene or the casual Martian Manhunter convo at the end. Also, I guess Bruce Wayne's plan is still to just turn Wayne Manor into the Hall of Justice and hope that somehow nobody notices that he's Batman.

[@R_A120]

If they cut the knightmare, the martian manhunter scenes, and tightened the editing/slow mo a little, the movie would have been a solid 3 and a half hours or so and would be better for it in my opinion

[@TheDreamWyrm]

@@R_A120 Totally agree

[@skilledwarman]

im shocked James even considered playing the King Kong game. its notorious for two things: -being really easy to 100% the achievement list since you just need to beat it once -being really hard to 100% the achievement list since you just need to beat it once, but its REALLY bad

[@matthewcronin2325]

I’m sad that Mason hated it so much

[@joshmosh-sx7ej]

I was expecting him to, it was inevitable

[@matthewcronin2325]

It’s just a much better movie with faithful characterization. I mostly agree with them about BvS so I hoped we’d share this opinion as well.

[@whyequalswhat]

The characterization is fucking awful in this movie. Nobody is accurate.

[@matthewcronin2325]

@@whyequalswhat everyone is accurate. The least accurate one is Flash and this is his first week

[@whyequalswhat]

@@matthewcronin2325 really? I dont remember Batman being a giant Superman fanboy. Or Wonder Woman being a person who brutally murders people in front of small children. Or Aquaman being an annoying dudebro who happily pollutes the ocean. Or Cyborg being an immensily boring grim dark asshole. Or martian Manhunter being an idiot who doesnt help protect the planet for literally no reason.

[@SrhBatman]

Hate the Snyder cut or not I think we can all agree this movie could’ve been 3 hrs long and there was no reason to reshoot it. Huge waste.

[@DanteYewToob]

The thing about the Bat Gauntlets wasn't that they were treating the audience dumb. If you pay attention, the point was that Batman saw Diana use her gauntlets in BvS, liked them and wanted a pair. He and Alfred were attempting to recreate mythological tech. That's why Diana makes a joke about maybe making him a lasso and shield too... lol she was a bit salty that Batman was ripping her shit off! Hahaha

[@The_RedVIII]

Honestly, I think Maso is nitpicking way too much. And I went into this movie not expecting anything, hating the original cut. But I was extremely pleasantly surprised.

[@dpenlow]

I just listened to your commentary of the original theatrical release of Justice League, and I think there's a lot more that you appreciate in the Snyder cut than you realize. A large majority of your complaints in the commentary were fixed in the new release, but I don't blame you at all for blocking the memories of that film from your minds. I had forgotten how bad it really was until I just re-watched it.

[@DVJ-]

Wonder Woman was referring to DoomsDay. That guy who said “Superman”’ was wrong.

[@nicholasbiddle7893]

I cant believe they had willem dafoe and they chose to use him for the fish guy instead of the joker!....Jared Leto? What were they thinking?!

[@DylanSunkel]

We almost had him back in 89' and I'm so disappointed, as much as I love Jack Nicholson's portrayal.

[@DrowzyDruid]

Yeah, absolutely agree - a costly mistake

[@johanstone]

is no one gonna talk about that stupid chanting they play everytime wonder woman appeared on screen??

[@niksmi22]

Oh my gosh yes!! It drove me and my sister crazy!

[@sauce8277]

*ANCIENT LAMENTATION*

[@Jonnycrs]

I mean I can understand why WB executives didn't want this movie in the cinemas. This was a 4-hour long movie that doesn't have a conventional storytelling style and was only part one of two. The Snyder Cut heavily works to set up future movies & Darkseid. The entire 10 min epilogue is only there to set up future franchises. This was very clearly the Infinity War to Endgame.

[@lexis4490]

It was like Avengers 2012, Infinity War and two other movies 😂.

[@extonjonas6820]

Well if zack snyder got to make his movie, it would not have been this. It would have been 2 and half hours at most and rightfully so. This movie is way too long.

[@DrowzyDruid]

Except it was shit

[@georgesams4704]

At 33 mins someone on the internet is finally grown up enough to tell it like it is, thank god for Maso

[@stefanfilipovits21]

What’s New? Sounds like our Spencer’s Gifts

[@Bkbw82]

Many of the scenes are better but sheesh, there’s no chance this would of been a 4 hour film for Cinema first time round.

[@DylanSunkel]

Definitely not. But as they were saying, it's strange that they didn't just take what was already filmed and cut it down. There'd certainly be some scenes with missing context clues, but I feel like the 2017 release still had that problem even with reshoots. I would've been fine with a 3hr theatrical release of this and then an Ultimate Cut for dvd/digital release at 4hrs for the more diehard fans to watch, similar to BvS.

[@saladdodger4722]

@@DylanSunkel Personally I think Warner wanted less than 3 hours, they wanted it the length of the Theatrical release and I don't think it'd be possible to cut it down to 2-2.5 hours without making a mess.

[@DylanSunkel]

@@saladdodger4722 Very true, I had also heard about how hard they wanted just 2. I'd be curious to see an editor take the Snyder Cut and attempt a two-hour version for fun and see how logical it is.

[@saladdodger4722]

@@DylanSunkelWhilst I would be interested to see how well it works I have no doubt it would be significantly worse, you would lose too many little character moments that I think personally add so much.

[@DylanSunkel]

@@saladdodger4722 100% agree.

[@IronMan9771]

I don't even like most of Snyder's movies, but you definitely cannot skip 3 hours into the movie if you've seen the 2017 version. You will miss so much, including the entirety of Cyborg and Steppenwolf's characterization that was absent from the original, the explanation of why Darkseid wants Earth, the introduction of The Flash, most of the evil superman stuff, etc.

[@elijones4557]

i hate (but respect) mason's opinion on this one. i loved this version and was blown away by how much better it was than the 2017 version. i also didnt mind the 4 hour run time and honestly didnt find myself to be bored at any point.

[@trilltron2885]

I quite enjoyed it! I always thought it was going to be a limited series, so I viewed it as such, watching it over 3 days (2 parts per evening). Maybe because of this I didnt find it boring or long at all. Also, its full on comic book dorkiness but it leans into so hard and takes itself so seriously, gotta respect it for fully committing. Also agree that overall the scenes are just better paced and better shot. Zach Snyder def understands that the tension before an action moment is as important as the bang wiz punch itself.

[@cwc5085]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed Steppenwolf had cute eyes in the Snyder Cut as well. The TC gave him kind old man eyes and this one gave him kitty-cat eyes LOL

[@RodrigoMartinez-yi3bx]

When James said I could just jump to the justice league part I immediately thought of old Steve saying “no, no I don’t think I will”

[@yagopacheco2855]

Manson is completely out of the dome this version is much better, definitely not perfect but much better

[@whyequalswhat]

Yeah it went from a 1/10 to a 2.5/10.

[@lexis4490]

@@whyequalswhat that’s an improvement.

[@darkman4747]

Charles or Marilyn?

[@aitch2d2]

Thing that bothered me most about the Snyder Cut? Why did Martha Kent pack up a U-Haul van, but didn't take her deceased son's shirts with her? Seems a bit heartless.

[@extonjonas6820]

lol

[@DVJ-]

After the future scenes from the Snyder-cut movie, the Flash pops back in time to BvS and tells Bruce that Lois is the key. This creates a ripple effect subtly changing the heroes’ personalities to have whedonesque humour. Batman then brings Lois in as the ‘big guns’ when Superman comes back, as seen in the theatrical release. This leads to a happy future, with no brain-washed Superman. This makes both movies canon, with the Joss-tice League happening second and also the movie from which the other DCEU’s align.

[@highlad1586]

you two make my day when you upload, like the glimmer of light in this dark, cold world

[@muchadoaboutnerdthings4895]

Thank god I am not the only one who thought that sweater sniffing scene was crazy 😂

[@niall0423]

James’ Superman scream impression...brilliant 😂

[@Rxmzy]

This ones a gem

[@DrowzyDruid]

Must G R A B

[@meloD30]

I find the general response to the Snyder cut fascinating, I'm glad ppl love it but I don't get it myself. Seems like this benefits hugely by the comparison to a truncated version that awkwardly jammed 2 very different visions together. But Synder League is only okay when viewed in isolation, at least for me. One thing is for sure. This film is the most Zack Snyder thing I've ever seen, and I've seen Zack Snyder.

[@MaylottPaints]

This week: Zack Snyder's Justice League. Podcast begins with a long discussion about farting. Yeah, that seems about right.

[@DrowzyDruid]

Takes me back to ep 1. Was only a month or so ago

[@meloD30]

The TRUTH is below: The box that the humans buried in 3ft of dirt was the most difficult one to find. #DumbLikeAFox

[@brett66]

I'm glad we've reached the point culturally where basic tonal and visual consistency is now cause for celebration. It may no longer be a studio-bastardized Frankenstein's Monster, but it's still a dour, stakesless, LOTR-derivative, McGuffin Hunt.

[@blitz8425]

Here's my notes with spoilers •aww wonder woman was nice to those people •pick a tone and stick to it •that was pretty metal how Mera started siphoning his blood •whoa Martian Manhunters in this •can Atlanteans breathe out of water or not what the hell •aspect ratio •lol they buried it in like 2 feet of dirt •wow that's a lot of fan service •pick a visual style for your fictional cultures. Atlantis looks nothing like it does in aquaman •wow it's still going •criminal usage of Amy Adams •Aquamans armor looks better in this, but needs a little more color •Michael Bay levels of product placement for that Mercedes •WHY is this movie 4 hours long •wow lot of blood in this. Not necessarily a bad thing just wow •I really wish this movie had more build up than 3 movies •did they just nuke Gorham, or the planet? What? •there's no way any of this makes sense to casual fans •haha Barry still runs silly •NO WONDER THIS MOVIE IS SO LONG THERE'S SO MUCH SLOWMO •Is this movie good or is it just different? •these actors deserve better •i like that they actually do hero stuff occasionally •this cgi is all over the place •YOU SHOULD PROBABLY MOVE •This aspect ratio man lol •At least Victor has a story in this •THERE'S STILL AN HOUR LEFT •Henry Caville is getting such a raw deal as Supes •he literally did fight them united though •I want Batman's chair •i feel like Snyder should just make black and white films. He clearly hates colors •idk about you but black just doesn't scream hope. •that was fun how Barry ran back through time •lol shot continuity. Batman is in the hero shot before the portal closes them he's hanging off the side of the silo before Supes helps him up for another hero shot. Nice. •man Martian manhunter was super relevant to this story. Glad he showed up. •oh the plane is just flying again. That definitely crash landed •oh great an epilogue that's what the movie needs •when everything isn't artificially washed out and full of substandard cgi this movie is actually really pretty. •oh yeah Jesse Eisenberg is lex. I think I forced myself to forget that •this has got to win (rewin?) an award for the game is on •I think I finally understand what people mean when they say lord of the rings has too many endings. Those movies earned it though so •damn its a bummer we are never gonna see deathsroke outside of that one cameo •OH GOOD ITS STILL GOING •what is the point of this •oh good Jared Leto. What a pleasure •so did he draw on the tattoos? That seems tedious •very edgy. Wow •why is this in the movie •the rest actually wasn't terrible but this nightmare scene is really going too far lol •that laugh is so bad •that scene went on for far too long •oh Martian manhunter is back. •i feel like this is just for that poster that said unite the seven. They really needed that seventh member lol •ok THAT has to win the game is on surely. •is it really over? Yup

[@Drawnartist]

Omg too much bro

[@blitz8425]

@@Drawnartist I know it's like the movie was 4 hours long. Crazy.

[@RobAyling]

Will there be a shorter version of the Justice League on Mr Sunday Movies?

[@DylanSunkel]

53:44 He had to build the carrier, because if someone saw a plane that Bruce Wayne just bought, shoot out a Batmobile at any point, that'd be giving it away. Always planning ahead that one. Or maybe he's just obsessed with building bat-themed vehicles. Both things likely true.

[@xavmanisdabestest]

1:39:00 List of great dubs that i actually prefer to their sub counterpart. Fate zero Bacanno Cowboy bepop Naruto Dragonball Panty and stocking Gurren lagann Probably all ginax shows actually they have solid dubs. There's probably more.

[@JGWoofWoof]

Bruce also said congratulation to Clark when he gets the house back. like oh by the way, way to get Louis pregnant. it had nothing to do with the house.

[@mariealexandrinne6997]

I wondered if it was about the baby or the engagement.

[@harryflorin2370]

Louis?

[@qwertyferix]

Sure, like Louis is going to just let someone get him pregnant after losing the family farm. 🙄

[@jakubrejak1114]

Just like Dr Strange casually congratulating Tony and Pepper on the wedding in Infinity War.

[@J.O.R.D]

Why did Steppenwolf have that same convo with Desaad? I was like whatttt? You’ve already told him about people having the scent of mother boxes and what not, why you doing this 😂 and yeah those googly eyes Steppenwolf has, I seen that as a GIF and thought it was fake! They are real 🤣🤣

[@erwinprado7058]

Why can't they upload to spotify???

[@alexanderscott344]

I hadn't been keen on the black suit idea, but when I watched it I thought it strongly implied that it was some sort of solar power collecting suit (since he flies up to sunbathe in orbit right after) which I loved, 'cos I love when they do stuff for reasons rather than just fan service. Of course, not explaining why he's wearing the black suit in words of one syllable (just implying the reason via visuals instead) illustrates the problem film makers have with that sort of stuff: explain and people complain that it was obvious anyway (like Batman's laser-proof gauntlets), don't explain and people complain that there's no reason behind it at all if they miss the implied reasoning.

[@plushiesdx]

1:24:50 Maybe, nerds would definitely be impressed that this is the only cinematic universe (with some exceptions people don't really remember).

[@shwndrws7785]

Love Nic's seething contempt for this movie and frustration with the mass hysterics it takes to dismiss what's obvi illogical

[@Destroyerz117]

I hadn't seen the original justice league so this was the first version I watched. I thought it was alright, overall I enjoyed it, even if it would be a better movie if it was cut down to some extent. There is some stuff that really bugged the hell out of me though SPOILERS! - - - - - - - - - The opening of movie was very strong up until the amazon fight scene where it fell apart. I felt like the amazon fight scene was very badly edited and would have been much better trimmed down, I don't need to see 6 different shots of amazon queen lady riding her horse in a straight line OK, including this weird sort of face-cam she has? There was also a part in the temple where she's talking to one of her mates, every time they say a line they turn around and then turn back to SAY ONE WORD AND THEN SPIN AROUND AGAIN, THIS WENT ON FOR AFULL CONVERSATION WHAT IS HAPPENING? I gotta say it...the villains are just bad.. Steppenwolf just comes across as kind of an idiot he's making generic monster grunts the entire time and I could barely understand what he's saying through his thick accent and heavy processing on his voice. I couldn't take the guy seriously, is he meant to be threatening?? He also has just the WORST most generic bad guy monologues ever.. like its hard to understand how anyone could write this dialogue and think its good. Even Darkseid, in the flashback he won't shut the fuck up, he's just grunting and roaring the entire time. That said the fact I hated Steppenwolf so much meant that when they finally pummeled the ever living shit out of him at the end it was all the more satisfying, probs my fav sequence in the movie. I really liked cyborg, he was probably my favorite character. Batman didn't really do anything inside of fights he just drove around..and kind of walked everywhere before awkwardly using his grappling hook. I Hated the flash, I found him very annoying AND WHY doesn't this man know how to run!? WTF IS HE DOING I CAN"T EVEN

[@williamreddick6971]

I know that I should prolly be mentioned in the movie, but snyder does say in an interview that superman chose the black suit because of the recovery reasons

[@michaelhuh8397]

It's fascinating to me how many people complain about it being 4 hours long when people have binged TV shows WAY longer than that.