Doctor Who: The Empire of Death REVIEW | Review of Death

[@MylesD1]

😢ahh guys what happened this week I was so looking forward to the original Sutekh design making an appearance and not a service robot mummy in sight 😢ah well I was sort of expecting it to be honest I knew I’d be deflated I just didn’t realise I’d be completely airless afterwards. Is there any point watching any more ? One good ep with a great cliffhanger this season isn’t really enough to bring me back I don’t think ? Ncuti still isn’t the Doctor yet for me ,it never took a whole season before I thought ,yep he’s the Doctor now? Maybe it’ll happen next year ? Thanks for bringing us the pod every week guys really enjoyed it more than the episodes . 👏👏👏👏

[@dj_guru_nanak6227]

I feel like RTD might not have enough people around to tell him that some of these ideas don’t make sense or need reworking. I think there needs to be more than one person in charge like Letts and Dicks so ideas can be reframed and ditched/improved more efficiently.

[@chrissyclark7836]

If I was a BBC exec I would be shopping for a show runner.

[@sharez66]

Towards the end of The Legend of Ruby Sunday I was praying that it was not going to be Sutekh when the anagram started forming. The reason being that you cannot bring back Sutekh in a way that really justifies his return. Sutekh has to be captive and incapacitated as he was in Pyramids, but that gets tedious, so if he escapes he has to destroy the universe, that is his thing, and if he does that, you either end the show, or do reset. Once I saw the UNIT guys all get dusted, the tension of the episode was over for me, because at that point, I knew there had to be a reset. Also the image of Sutekh looked to me like a dog humping the TARDIS.

[@nicholasdickens2801]

Yes it was banal storytelling at its worst. The woke BBC can’t use the Daleks so have they have to turn to one of the greatest villains ever and Sharaz Jek won’t be woke enough.

[@guygrist4436]

I think the word I found to describe it is yikes. I found Sutekh cute which isn't what I should have felt. It felt like this season crashed and burned.

[@whatsup4825]

When Empire of Death finished, my wife went straight to bed and told me she’s never watching Doctor Who ever again. There goes the casual viewer, I suppose. 🤷‍♂️

[@lungbarrow6407]

I think we all do that every week to be fair

[@JB-vq6xv]

To be fair that is one person, not every casual fan

[@michaeldallaway1988]

This guy's wife = every casual viewer, apparently

[@Face2East]

My wife gave up after about ep3 after one to many shrugs of indifference or bafflement. Last night she turned it on to see DW on the screen and switched to the news channel faster than Billy The Kid. I don't think she was alone last night.

[@CTheRobot]

It would be fun to see the 8th Doctor and Charlie, or Lucy watch the TV movie as he shows them an adventure before their time with him. I loved that Ruby saw an adventure that pre-dated her, fascinating to see 🔷❤️

[@julieanngoodwin30]

Great review of a dreadful mess. So much is wrong with this final I wouldn't know where to start, just awful. Again.

[@lorrainesheridan496]

Matt Smith got me in minutes when I was missing Chris and David. Ncuti is Russell's fantasy boy

[@adamfreddo5703]

I mean the issues could have been fixed with more drafts. I.e. instead of death getting rid of death, have the doctor threaten Sutekh to reverse what he done otherwise he'd be stuck being dragged through the vortex, framing it in a timelord victorious fashion. Really emphasising the mythological aspects of it would have made it better to digest. I.e. like "he wrapped my father in chains of a dwarf star" in family of blood. He literally binds the god of death and threatens him to reverse what he has done with eternity of suffering. Maybe highlighting there is still the McCoy/Tennant part of him in there. And considering what Sutekh did, it would be acceptable why the Doctor would go this far. Maybe have the rope be a weapon of the Osirons that they used to bind him originally along with the eye of Horus. Also, linking the time window to a "recovered sarcophagus" in Unit. Again changes which I think would have helped the plot and execution of it better.

[@mayotango1317]

The Blood Family thing worked because they were just overacting people. Sutekh is a giant god. And McCoy's Time's Champion was best captured by Matt Smith.

[@ohmydinosare]

The episode was a bit of a mess, the ending was terrible, but I'm actually really glad I went to see it in the cinema, the experience of that was so much fun it elevated a pretty flawed episode. At the end there was a girl across the car park shouting on her phone "it could have been anyone! A-Clara, B- river song, C- the doctor, D-Ruby herself, but NOOOOOOO, LOUISE!" and that was my favourite part of the night.

[@creamsock8886]

possibly the most ridiculous and awful thing i've ever seen, the whole rubys mum just being some random woman just seems like they rushed the end, why bother telling the audience that her seeming significant doesn't matter if you're going to build her up? only good part about that episode was that stupid Segway kid getting turned to dust

[@aloysiusthefish7076]

Lighten up, cockerel

[@tickletorture]

Completely agree. And they didn't rush the ruby storyline, RTD wrote it that way because he liked The Last Jedi's storyline of Rey's parents being nobodies and didn't like that they changed that in the next film. This was entirely deliberate by him.

[@CulturePhilter]

I’m not the first to point this out but… Russell: “I redesigned the sonic because looked like a gun and that’s bad for kids” Also Russell: let’s give this 13 year old character machine guns built into his segway 😂

[@kjmmxii123]

Just occurred to me, it would have been good if they'd gotten Mike Stoklasa and Jay Bauman to fix UNIT's VCR player, in a wacky comedy cameo scene.

[@ackyfacky4332]

Was not expecting a RedLetterMedia reference here. Cheers!

[@jjkeyboards]

Mr Plinkett defeats Sutekh as he is unable to die

[@kjmmxii123]

@@jjkeyboards "Empire of Death is the most disappointing thing since my son..."

[@HudsonMedia]

“Sutekh Hungi” 😭😭 Just casually choking on my drink.

[@fastertrackcreative]

The antagonists in this series are embarrassingly weak: - Sutek was defeated with essentially a dog lead - Maestro with music - The Toymaker with a game of catch Well the next one be defeated by happy thoughts?

[@MovieMagic515]

I was willing to get over Ruby's mum being normal had it not had plot holes regarding the snow/cloak. Imagine how beautiful it would be if as 15 said bye to Ruby, he said. You've got your family, i'm going to find mine. And the cliffhanger is the dr searching for/finding Susan. Ruby finds her mum, the dr finds Susan. Then we could have Susan as a companion again, instead of constantly running from the past. The dr seems like this great person, but he's really cold with how he dispenses with companions and moves on. It's kind of dark.

[@Lightning1998JBD]

Unit only managed to find Ruby’s mum after Ruby found out her name from the DNA thing

[@solitarymomentsproductions]

Just for once, everyone lives ... Oh, that's every modern Who episode.

[@acanimations1223]

A big note I have is that officer sullivan character who takes ruby to the time window, the doctor just tells her to get out, and from sutekh’s dialogue we know she’s dead. The doctor could have saved her, but she’s not a main character so nah. Also I assume Northern Ireland is safe if it’s places the doctor has visited 😂

[@connbarry1656]

"Rings of Akhaten was 11 years ago." Jesus...

[@jamesloganhart]

It's a real shame that they imply Sutekh latches onto the tardis after Pyramids. It would make so much more sense for that scene in Wild Blue Yonder. First appearance of Susan Triad with Newton in 1666 and the last thing the 4th Doctor says in Pyramids of Mars is a quip about the fire of London in 1666.... Sutekh could've heard and then sought him out in the vortex.. idk

[@JJungleJapeson]

The most disappointing part was that they didn't do the "OF DEATH" sting in the title sequence

[@stephenreed2093]

I don’t understand why they keep on doing these retroactive storylines. They make no sense and raise more questions than they answer. Why couldn’t Sutekh have just hopped onto the TARDIS in Wild Blue Yonder? As opposed to hiding inside it ever since Pyramids of Mars?

[@jackbennett9040]

Gotta be honest, I bloody loved it 🤣 sure, there may be the off plot hole and contrivance, but there is in most episodes and I was simply having too much fun to care! We were a blubbering mess in the cinema, I thought the reveal of Ruby's mum was beautiful, an amazing subversion, and they dealt with Sutekh brilliantly. He was a brilliant baddie. Overall, I've enjoyed this season so much!

[@David_Burgess27]

As usual, this podcast is more entertaining than the actual show. Cheers lads.

[@TheCornishStallion]

I believe that it's up to interpretation when he latched on. It's straightforward to think he did as soon as 4, and Sarah left. But it also makes sense for him to latch on as the 1st Doctor and Susan leave Gallifrey, and that explains where the Toymaker saw him, not in the universe but as the Doctor brought him to his domain. Either way, poor Sutekh going through all these beatings and wonder what kids think of the supposed hero dragging a dog by the collar through the vortex 😂. Can also imagine in Journey's End when the Daleks are about to detonate the reality bomb, Sutekh thinking "you better bloody stop this."

[@harryjackson2215]

The only time anyone reacted in my screening was the “don’t make the tea” joke 😂

[@cybermatstrikes7557]

Hello chaps, nice chat. Long live Pyramids of Mars.

[@STEVEBINNION1]

Is the tardis a dog house 😂

[@acanimations1223]

Susan triad in the 60s first doctor colouring books? The give a show projector? Nestle’s masterplan q?! The questions that need to be answered!

[@Johno3998]

Did anyone else notice the previously on segment had different dialogue? Just like classic who with their pickups from the previous episode with different dialogue/acting

[@meatrace]

I think I enjoyed this so much because I accepted from the get-go that it was going to be RTD up to his old tricks and so I didn't really expect anything cohesive. This finale really reminds me of Series 3. Just really magical wishy washy nonsense but presented with such confidence that it kind of works if you squint. But only kind of. It was a big, flashy, splashy, tear-jerking pile of wank, which is basically all that RTD ever really delivers on.

[@FunK0Slap0GB]

I felt more deflated by this run of episodes than by much of Jodie’s era, which says a lot! I genuinely don’t know who this era of Who is for? Is it for the Disney Plus generation? If so, there’s the Hollywood love interest episodes like Rogue. Is it for classic sci-fi fans? Then you have the ghostly 73 Yards. Casual viewers would have understandably dipped after Space Babies. As Billy has said, I’m socially-politically 100% on board with RTD (see Dot and Bubble), but aside from that I struggle to see the direction of the show. It needs new energy and fast. Sorry for the long comment, but will miss these weekly episodes!

[@famkefan]

Brings a whole new meaning to Bad Wolf…

[@hgwells1899]

Wasn't it great watching Pyramids of Mars the other night? Doctor Who... love that old show

[@MaxCarnage1984]

So if Sutekh has been latched onto the TARDIS since the 70's, does that mean there's a duplicate of Sutekh still alive and attached to 14's duplicate TARDIS?

[@phily8093]

They should have said 76 yards, and made it into a further Totter's Lane/Totter's Yard/Susan reference.

[@stephenreed2093]

If the DNA sampling had been in 73 Yards, wouldn’t Ruby have found her parents in that episode? It only pops up in the last episode for convenience.

[@bobsherwood3542]

Rose was operating the laser defence

[@ChloeAnderson000]

This is what I’ve said/thought

[@bobsherwood3542]

@@ChloeAnderson000 I agree with you.

[@ajax4887]

Hated The Legend Of Ruby Sunday, hated Empire Of Death even more

[@Qazwet.]

was fun watching all these!!

[@elliot5569]

Something i always interpirtated watching pyramids of mars on dvd was that the time corridor was separate from the time vortex and that would explained sutekh died later in finale, I wished it was writen that sutekh grabbed the tardis after Wild blue yonder exscaping the corridor but no russell changed it to vortex.

[@drwhotvwam]

I believe that when sutekh latched on to the tardis, it was because the doctor was using a machine thst may have been a component of the TARDIS to cast him into the Time vortex, this allowed sutekh to become connected to the TARDIS (first mentally then physically) I think the reason he took so long to act his revenge is because he was weakened and it took him all those years to grow in strength, every time the TARDIS landed he created another Susan triad. With each Susan he created he got a tiny bit stronger. If the TARDIS landed in a time where a Susan already existed then that Susan got doubled in power . Once enough Susans were created he was able to manifest and become corporeal. Well thats my head cannon anyway 😂 I think mrs flood is the god of fiction or the thing from the "mind robber" and she had been manipulating the doctors recent adventures, so perhaps more questions will be answered

[@guygrist4436]

I will say Big Finish did a better job at Pyramids of Mars sequel.

[@ChloeAnderson000]

Omg I’ve said/thought exactly the same about the pointing. That it should’ve been written so that she was pointing to the Tardis as a warning. I genuinely though that’s were it was going during the time window. How horrendously wrong we were 😢

[@michaeldallaway1988]

I'm disappointed but I'm not letting it take away the enjoyment ive had for the majority of this season. This poor ending had given the people who seem to salivate at the idea of Doctor Who getting cancelled even more ammunition, which is a shame. The run from Boom to Rogue is one of the best since the show returned. The performances throughout have been excellent, especially from Ncuti and Millie. I'm not going to let this finale change my opinion of the entire show.

[@Gooner184]

Referring to my comment last week, turns out RTD indeed failed to stick the landing... to the surprise of virtually no one lol.

[@phily8093]

And final comment - I did find the "ordinary but special" ending a cop out. And it doesn't explain everything, but the kind of throw away line about her Dad not being a great guy, and could be a big bad that perhaps makes her "special", and threw both the audience and Sutekh off the trail.

[@cybermatstrikes7557]

Billy brought new meaning to dropping a Logopolitan.

[@brianwall4912]

This whole season has been pretty bad, plots very poor, terrible finale, been a fan since the 60s, the show has been thru ups and downs, but now it's just bad, rtd just seems to be alienating a very loyal fan Base, More over 30s watch than under 30s, for a family show some of its themes are handeld quite badly, almost as tho rtd pushing his own agenda, and forgetting the past, and to me it seems ncuti just seems to have no character, and that's down to writing and directing not the actor, I can only hope the show improves As a life long fan I really hope it does,

[@Rik77]

I feel.like this story was wanting to be more meta than it ended up being. Ruby only seemed important because us the audience wishes it, and Sutekh is also us he was there when she was bornnand eden he loves ruby, has the popcorn out and wants to know who her mother is. Its really silly, but i almost wished theyd have run eith the mera element.

[@danielcox3152]

So Sutekh with the TARDIS got painted pink in The Happiness Patrol, roof stat on by 13 and Yaz being romantic. I bet he was happy....

[@Thomas_of_the_forest]

Yeah , 8 episodes is just well too short for Doctor Who ☹️ Especially since we got 2 episodes premiered together.... Really wish we could get minimum 10 for the main season plus the special

[@robtaylor4709]

This show needs a rest, RTD completely delusional and arrogant

[@LNER985]

Lies.

[@jamied.5612]

I feel like the season was actually above average but the finale really hurt how I will view this season now after it's over. The finale itself for the most part was fine. But the Story of Ruby Sunday will just be a black mark on the season, especially the finale. And The Doctor mentioning Susan more this season was solely for social media engagement and setting up a red herring in the finale no one believed anyway because it was set out too obvious. Just a messy end.

[@jlewis2890]

Sutekh defeated by a dog leash I think his powers weakened in the time vortex. Second, Mrs flood looked like Mary Tamms Romana at the end from the Ribos Operation. Third, why didn’t the doctor just contact the osirons, or Greek or Roman gods seeing Zeus vs Sutekh would of been interesting

[@tidmouthmilk12]

On the subject of the Pyramids re-edit, I definitely enjoyed it. Might've enjoyed it more if the original version wasn't still fresh in my mind as I'd re-watched it several days earlier. I would assume the audio at the start was probably redubbed because Scarman refers to the Egyptian helpers as "savages" Also I thought the infamous Ian Levine's response to it was very ironic: "Whatever possibly possessed Russell T. Davies to allow the talentless Benjamin Cook to YET AGAIN hack a classic to pieces with a butcher's cleaver. This disrespect for our beloved vintage episodes has got to stop" as if he wasn't also making a mess of classic episodes with his crap AI reconstructions 😆 (And at least RTD and Ben Cook aren't making people go through a paywall to watch this stuff!) And, with the thought of a modern Who episode of TFTT it'd be *so* good to get Eccleston on (Shame he'd probably never do it because of his distaste for the people in charge) Might be nice to get Paul McGann in for one and maybe have an animated release of one of the Big Finish adventures. Heck, or get Richard E. Grant in to do one for Scream of the Shalka now that it's canon!

[@phily8093]

And I disagree with the Molecular bond rope thing. All God's have weaknesses, and can have things forged by science or otherwise that can destroy them, or imprison them. This is true in our own mythologies, with examples such as Prometheus chained to a rock, or the otherwise invulnerable Baldur being killed by mistletoe. Being a God rarely means all powerful - it just means extremely powerful. Superman has his Kryptonite and so on. In Doctor Who alone there are many examples - The Beast in the Satan Pit was trapped, The Toymaker was tricked, The Maestro defeated, The Eternals outsmarted, and so on, and so on, and so on. Plus as over the top as it was, I really liked the big space dog on a leash visual.

[@batmanmarch]

I would agree with that completely, had they set it up in the story. If the Doctor had come at it with some technobabble I might have been on board. Instead, it leaves us with a visual that seems a little silly!

[@phily8093]

@@batmanmarch fair point. There's much to criticise.

[@damienkakoschke3099]

Sutekh & House, interestingly, both sound very alike, LOLs

[@MacStyran]

Empire of death ... so true. Star Wars ... Star Trek ... Bond ... Doctor Who ...

[@Thedocwills]

Weird theory I have if the next ep is “joy to the world” how cool would it be if since the doctor got rid of death it’s all about people not being afraid of death anymore

[@solitarymomentsproductions]

Okay let's wrap up as many story lines in the last five minutes as possible ... Oh, that's every new Who episode.

[@mediakira6621]

See this is exactly a sort of “Moffat” happy ending. “Oh I found d me mom! And me dad! In the same day! So excited! Yay! Happy endings for all! “ Nothing negatives happened, no consequences. Martha’s family remembered being tortured and the year of the master’s rule, Donna couldn’t remember, Sylvia and Wilf had to be on egg shells just to get her to be normal again. Ruby? Nothing. Everything handed to her. It’s been like this ever since rhe 60th, he’s trying to replicate Moffat’s “happily ever after” cliche . Donna can remember no strings attached, Tennant is still the Doctor in an extent, Susan Triad gets to live even though Marcus died the minute he was freed in Pryamjds, …least Chibnall didn’t reverse the Flux and had people stay dead.

[@jackboulter4901]

Overall i enjoyed this story and I'm probably in the minority when it comes too it, starting off with the performances, everyone was pretty brilliant in this story honestly, Ncuti was amazing the same goes for millie, Gabrielle wolf was superb and will always be sutekh. Was it perfect? no but that didn't stop me from enjoying it, I actually liked the Ruby's mum thing, Russell said in the unleashed that Ruby's story has been paused for now, in terms of how they dealt with sutekh i didn't mind it honestly, my interpretation is that he couldn't survive going through the time vortex twice and that the doctor may have gone deeper into the vortex so that sutekh was destroyed. In terms of season 1 itself i think its pretty bang average in terms of modern series that we've had, however i will say that i did prefer it over flux for the most part as i feel it had a slightly more good to meh episode average. My favourite episode is definitely legend of ruby sunday despite the finale, finally and quickly i think the people who have out right hated this season for no reason need to think about if doctor is for them anymore, Anyway I'm very much looking forward to the Christmas special and season 2 but again I'm probably in the minority, Thankyou chaps for these brilliant livestreams 😊.

[@CTheRobot]

Anyone consider that the Ruby “mystery” hasn’t been answered yet? Considering that Mrs Flood has been living next to her? Seen as there’s still another thread going, there may be more to come. Might not be too, so don’t take my word for it, but seen as there’s more to see hinted at, maybe we just don’t have all the answers yet and therefore it doesn’t all make sense to us yet either? 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@ViltheedArgorrible]

I think that's giving the writers way too much credit, especially when we've known since the 2000's that RTD makes up his story arcs as he goes along. Something he gleefully admits in his "The Writer's Tale" book. Keep this in mind, The Master and Donna weren't originally going to come back in Series 4 and the Specials, (Series 4 was going to have a companion named Penny, who also fell in love with the Doctor, and the 10th Doctor was originally going to die in The Waters of Mars, but RTD changed his mind when both Catherine and John Simm were available and rewrote his scripts almost at the last minute, and don't get me started on how he handled the Torchwood spinoff.

[@CTheRobot]

@@ViltheedArgorrible fair enough, but it’s very obvious that there are other things in the pipeline, think our fandom sometimes gets upset too fast or makes its mind up too early that’s all. There’s plenty of poor writing before 2005 in Doctor Who, including an ACTUAL cancellation which lasted over a decade, yet the latest writers are always being credited with killing the show? You know what I mean? 😂

[@TheJaime9526]

IT IS THE PRINCE ALBERT OF SUTEKH. THANKYOU LADY PEINEFORTE

[@Taka_Sakagami]

Bit of a lame conclusion for sure, but I won't let it ruin the brilliance of some of the previous episodes. Finales were never RTD's strong spot, but it never stopped me from enjoying 9 and 10. I think the structure of this whole season will be the main negative point levied against it in future, with criticisms of content coming after.

[@StevieWeevie66]

I wasted £16.50 watching that rubbish at the cinema. I'm sticking with the classic series.

[@LNER985]

You're a disgrace to Doctor Who fans.

[@StevieWeevie66]

@@LNER985 @LNER985 It was absolute junk. I had such high hopes after the previous week's. The whole audience left in silence. Probably all of us there were a disgrace to fans. It's such a shame.

[@LNER985]

@@StevieWeevie66 No it wasn't and just you hating life.

[@StevieWeevie66]

@@LNER985 Life is fabulous. With the classic series only. Lol

[@LNER985]

@@StevieWeevie66 Clearly it isn't when you butchering the Doctor Who community for the sake of ego and refusing to support the franchise.

[@solitarymomentsproductions]

Sutekh on a lead (sigh)

[@muisverriet]

The best way i can desctribe this episode is unsatisfying. The season set up so many things only for them to be hand waved away, the big villain defeated in a very unsatisfactory manner and it was just an awful followup to TLORS which i thought was a great episode. In other words, it's an RTD finale.

[@Problembeing]

No story. Deconstruction of the greatest villain as a joke. Characters no one cares about, no matter how much they tell is we do... No DNA with Doctor Who other than the classics they plunder to justify and affirm this changeling.

[@LNER985]

Lies.

[@tickletorture]

@@LNER985 Truths.

[@Problembeing]

@@LNER985 whatever. You may have incredibly low standards, I don't.

[@LNER985]

@@Problembeing I don't have low standards and just know how to do enjoy life without being a miserable human being.

[@Problembeing]

@@LNER985 being smart isn't being miserable, it's about having standards that elevate oneself to not be so easily pleased. By all means, go about your rainbow finger painting seal clapping.

[@LNER985]

It was a good episode and the acolyte is a good show.

[@kemmdog4444]

The Red Skull’s Dust of Death is much cooler than Sutekh’s.

[@kit500100]

Worst episode of this show ever, and I’ve seen them all. So bad l could hardly believe it.

[@LNER985]

No it isn't.

[@Defecato99]

Sooty, Angie from eastenders,, a lidl cashier a rabid doberman and several other disjointed and bad ideas. it was total shite.

[@Defecato99]

and no way it was ever about the fans it was about a quick end and a quick buck.

[@awsom50]

Wow ... This was absolutely awful. Terrible storytelling, if you can call it that, and honestly I'm at the point where I think the show needs a rest. Hate to say that, but honestly, this was embarrassing

[@Domgo-d1w]

The show is now absolute rubbish.

[@friendlyotaku9525]

I think this episode is a victim of expectations, people's expectations were just kinda unrealistic. I myself loved this finale and I had a great time watching it at the Cinema! It's really not this terrible episode people are making it out to be.

[@tickletorture]

Getting sick of people blaming the fans for RTD's ridiculous hype machine.

[@ainsleyelliott5840]

I didn't like this episode but am surprised by how many people say this is the worst Doctor Who has been. I think the episode had good ideas, great visuals and acting but it was trying to tackle too much stuff, under-explained a lot of things, and over-explained others. I didn't leave the episode thinking "Well, Doctor Who is done", I left thinking "Yep, that was a thing...". Maybe it's because I don't have an attachment to Classic Who compared to other viewers. I've mostly stuck to The Third Doctor era and only recently watched The Pyramids of Mars. The biggest issues I had with the episode were the supporting characters getting killed at the start meaning it was all going to be undone, Sutekh getting put on a leash and Ruby's Mum reveal. Why a 15-year-old single mother decided to wear a cloak instead of some joggers in 2004, or whatever time it is and then randomly point to a sign to indicate that the baby is named Ruby was utterly stupid. It is mysterious for the sake of being mysterious. I once had a birthday party where a friend of mine stole my Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon card from Yu-Gi-Oh. Dunno which friend took it but when I remember that day the smell of BBQ fills the air and DJ Sammy's Heaven plays ominously around me. I dunno, I haven't cared about Doctor Who for the last 10 years maybe? This is the first time I've finished watching a full series since Matt Smith so I was out of the fandom years ago, maybe that's why I don't care if it fell flat on its face. The season had a lot of frustrating stuff but also stuff I enjoyed. It's always the execution that's the issue. Good ideas but then you think about them and leave with more questions than answers. Since the next season was filmed before this was released, I imagine the issues with the show will continue into next year which is annoying.

[@nathanadlerinc2790]

OK, so now you can review classic Actual Doctor Who. Instead of this corpse of a show

[@friendlyotaku9525]

this is actual Doctor Who.

[@nathanadlerinc2790]

@@friendlyotaku9525 no it isn't and most people here agree with me along with 10 million people. That have stopped watching since 2005. If you like it then you're welcome to it. You support bad writing, bad acting, woke agenda and child grooming.

[@nathanadlerinc2790]

@@friendlyotaku9525 you're welcome to this badly written, badly acted, child grooming woke agenda drivel. Over 10 million people have stopped watching since 2005. Enjoy it while it's in its death throws

[@mediakira6621]

Lemme guess you hate that there’s a black doctor.

[@nathanadlerinc2790]

@@mediakira6621 didn't mention race mate, you racist