Battery Backup for your Security Camera System - UPS (PC/MAC & NVR/DVR)

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@yachuba
@yachuba 6 жыл бұрын
Dude. What a precision in testing. What a competence. I am stunned.
@nilpo19
@nilpo19 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Tripp-Lite 1500 VA backup powering a beefy Xeon file server, wireless router/firewall, modem, network switch, VOIP phone server, 8 cameras with IR, 1 enclosure with heater/blower, and a 16-channel NVR. And it lasts almost 3 hours with all of that running at full power.
@matty-dc4pq
@matty-dc4pq Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to do this,exactly what I was looking for.
@fastmover45
@fastmover45 6 жыл бұрын
Dont forget to place a sticker on the UPS when the battery was checked and changed. also check the batterys every 6 months.
@paulo23xable
@paulo23xable 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, just what I need. Thank you for such a detailed video lesson on backup system for surveillance system.
@brasha78
@brasha78 3 жыл бұрын
You are the man for this video. Exactly what I need and for almost the same setup I need to backup. Incredible. Best of luck and thanks a bunch.
@UNgineering
@UNgineering 2 жыл бұрын
Finally a good video with actual numbers! Excellent work!
@FakeJeep
@FakeJeep 4 жыл бұрын
Would be good to note power useage for hard drives in use unless you're including that. For my system, 5MP HD over coax. Each camera uses 1w~ without IR, and 4w~ with IR on. The DVR uses 5w~ on its own. Add in the 1TB WD Purple and that uses 3.3w R/W, although larger drives consume more power with an 8TB using 8.6w alone So, totals during the day are 12.3w and at night 24.3w with IRs. So a basic 50-60 dollar(given market) 300watt UPS will keep this running at 24.3w for about 4.5 hours while your 1k unit will keep it going for around 14 hours.
@gunsnslings
@gunsnslings Жыл бұрын
Fantastic test. Exactly what I've been looking for! 1/2 hour is exactly the threshold for usefulness I had in mind.
@davidkeel4543
@davidkeel4543 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I am about to purchase an 8 camera system. I would be fine with 30 minutes of backup time. The scenario I would be most concerned about would be a thief cutting off the main power to somehow disable the security camera system. In this way, it would still record - although the beeping sound the UPS makes could lead them straight to the NVR, so I need to see if there is a way to disable that.
@HomeTechDIY
@HomeTechDIY 4 жыл бұрын
You can disable the beeping. I think it can be done through the software: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHXTqpRtaauZp9U
@gsk9s
@gsk9s 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for testing this stuff out! This has been a question of mine for a couple years, I've just never taken the time to try it.
@mpcp27
@mpcp27 6 жыл бұрын
Very useful. Yours is the first video that i have find like this... Glad it back up some of my calculations too...I recently installed a camera system and was looking at that very ups you were using. And was going to tie in the modem and router to have remote access until i realised that the power outage also knocks out the isp equipment in the area so no internet even though my modem is powered. I also did some quick calculations and i was only getting 65 -70 min of power when i really needed at least 3 -4 hours for extended power outage coverage. Short of using APC system with a secondary external battery i don't have any other solution.
@shaunburton1112
@shaunburton1112 Жыл бұрын
interesting that adding a Poe Switch actually barely affected the time. wonder if the NVRs PoE delivery is far less efficent than a dedicated PoE switch?
@Nobody-uq2py
@Nobody-uq2py 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video I also got a ad congrats you got monetized!
@TomRolfson
@TomRolfson 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Would love to see a comparable test using 6V Golf Cart batteries in series with supplemental solar charge. I'm ideally building this along with emergency cellular modem that sits between cable modem and router. Ideally hoping to sustain power perpetually for time at cottage. Have you upgraded to similar yet?
@michaeljavaras793
@michaeljavaras793 2 жыл бұрын
@Tom Rolfson. How about using 12 V deep cycle RV batteries instead? They are designed to go dead and be recharged without killing their life cycle . I wish I knew how to do something like that ! Please chime in if you have any suggestions or ideas along that path...
@Janisg616
@Janisg616 4 ай бұрын
You can get a used UPS and instead of stock battery attach car battery. Usually these UPS have 7Ah batteries. Average car battery has 10 times as much. New car battery will give you 10 times more back up time than built in battery. And used car battery that can start a car only in warm temperatures you will get 2 to 5 times as much backed up time, comparing to built in battery.
@HomeTechDIY
@HomeTechDIY 4 ай бұрын
Great question! I don't know enough about electronic to answer, but hopefully someone else can chime in.
@ErossaanBooming
@ErossaanBooming Ай бұрын
Nice video! I like wgat you did there. Spent all day yesterday googling doing similar calculation but nice to see that you did a real life test. My idea is to set a dedicated UPS as a stand alone battery for my cam+nvr +home router. I want to set it as a seperate "small battery" that will charge only with excess solar generation. I'm quite shocked to see the unit laster 2.8 hours only even though it has a 900w power...
@HomeTechDIY
@HomeTechDIY Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Sounds like a fun project!
@SulaimanTheWordSmith
@SulaimanTheWordSmith 4 жыл бұрын
His time estimates seem to accurate based on my two NVR's with 13 cameras connected.
@krehlick
@krehlick 2 жыл бұрын
You really did it all! Thanks man, just what I needed
@alhadad1979
@alhadad1979 Жыл бұрын
Great experiments. Any idea whether do I have to buy a pure sine wave UPS version, when the connected devices are poe switch, IP cameras, nvr, router & for future synology nas to act as a server using virtual machine?
@HomeTechDIY
@HomeTechDIY Жыл бұрын
I am not sure off the top of my head. Hopefully someone can chime in here to help clarify if this is a requirement.
@livinglight1628
@livinglight1628 4 жыл бұрын
I dont know why all houses dont have battery back ups. I use 2 large 420 Kilowatt hour, 6v batteries (12v output). I have a power inverter, not connected to the grid, but charged by two 100w solar panels. The batteries also have a trickle charger (2 amps) for redundancy. All security systems run on the battery's. I would strongly suggest a quality inverter, as most produce a "dirty sine wave" and will destroy electric motors, like the HDD in your NVR recorder. Also having 840 kilowatt hours means the things you showed in the video will run for weeks on battery alone. Also if the power goes out, its nice to run up to a small 1000w AC for a day or so, computers and lamps will go indefinitely with the solar panels connected.
@ericwilliams3985
@ericwilliams3985 3 жыл бұрын
Have you figured out how solar power works on wattage and the best solar panels
@chiefmezz
@chiefmezz 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I have a Hikvision system, 16 channel DVR with 16 cameras.Plus a 18 channel 30A power supply unit for cameras. What UPS can I use for this system? I need it to run for atleast 24 hrs.
@jusflake4174
@jusflake4174 2 жыл бұрын
Is it safe to have the UPS plugged in to wall socket all the time? With say two camera sockets plugged into the UPS. Wouldnt it burn and overheat the battery if it’s constantly plugged into power socket? There is no power cut yet in this scenario, but I’m wanting to make sure my two cctv cameras still record if there is a power cut while I sleep, or am at work. I want to plug my cameras into UPS at least while I sleep incase if power cut, but still have UPS plugged into mains socket.
@HomeTechDIY
@HomeTechDIY 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, my understanding is the firmware on the UPS will manage the battery charge to prevent it from overcharging and overheating. The batteries will not last forever. They will need to be replaced every 5 years or so. This is just the nature of these systems.
@QuaabQueb
@QuaabQueb 5 жыл бұрын
What do you use for your current home surveillance system? An all in one NVR or Blue Iris on a PC ?
@HomeTechDIY
@HomeTechDIY 5 жыл бұрын
This should answer your question. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4vJlGaEi6d3sJo
@QuaabQueb
@QuaabQueb 5 жыл бұрын
@@HomeTechDIY A yes I had seen that vid actually. You are currently using this setup to date? I took your advice and stayed away from the questionable Hikvision NVR's on ebay
@iknowthatdude
@iknowthatdude 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I don’t suppose you could do a similar video for CCTV HD analog system with 8 channel DVR w 4TB HDD, 8 HD 4MP cameras, 9 channel 12v 10amp power supply, with and without powering a modem, switch, router etc...My understanding is an analog system will consume more power than IP. Appreciate your great work. Thank you.
@nilpo19
@nilpo19 5 жыл бұрын
It's not really a question of analog versus IP for power consumption. All things being equal, they really use about the same amount of power in my experience. It really comes down to features. Many network cameras have far larger imagers than you can find in analog cameras. They require more power. Add more power for cameras with good compression, backlight compensation, IR, advanced night modes, automatic shutters, etc. Since analog cameras are typically powered with heavier gauge wiring, they are also more efficient with less voltage drop. That said, ignoring illumination, heaters and blowers, and movable lenses and housing, cameras are all about the same when similarly spec'd. Your average cameras runs somewhere around 4-6 watts. High end ones can go a bit higher. PTZs can have a wide range so you should check the spec sheet for your camera to see what it's designed to consume. Just remember that designed specs and actual performance can vary greatly depending upon environment and the quality of the installation. If you're buying cable on Amazon or at Home Depot, don't expect the best performance. Likewise, big box camera systems are not going to be very power efficient either and may vary widely even from camera to camera of the same model.
@LittleLadyk2002
@LittleLadyk2002 2 жыл бұрын
So do you plug in the UPS and the modem, router to it then? I have wireless cameras and trying to avoid issues when power goes off. I cannot see a way around this. Ugg
@HomeTechDIY
@HomeTechDIY 2 жыл бұрын
It depends on your setup. If you have LAN cameras recording to the NVR, then yes, you'll need the NVR and router on backup. If your cameras are connected to the NVR directly, you'll only need to backup the NVR. If you want to still access the camera's remotely during a power failure, than you'll need to backup the modem too.
@scottbogfoot
@scottbogfoot Жыл бұрын
Are you from Alberta originally? What's NewfieBort? 🤔 Cheers
@HomeTechDIY
@HomeTechDIY Жыл бұрын
Hey! I checked out your channel and I'm from nearby you. NewfieBort was an old school nick name and the old name of this channel before it started to develop into something more substantial.
@winduas7534
@winduas7534 2 жыл бұрын
bro, hats off to your effort. +1 like
@CraigMullins1
@CraigMullins1 3 жыл бұрын
Some UPS won't restart if the battery fully drains and power comes back on. super annoying.
@myheaven2626
@myheaven2626 5 жыл бұрын
Hello everyone here How much I have something to ask I have a dvr 12v 1.5 a with 4 cameras Can i know which ups need to buy .i just want to know about va ... And how much time it will take for back up
@captainrick9379
@captainrick9379 6 жыл бұрын
Great info as always! Thanks!
@tyler9891
@tyler9891 6 жыл бұрын
What made you choose this unit over APC?
@HomeTechDIY
@HomeTechDIY 6 жыл бұрын
Great Question! I had a couple CyberPower UPS devices from 5-6 years ago and I really liked their quality and performance. I wanted a repeat experience.
@potorrero
@potorrero 3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. New sub for you!
@shayansheikhlary3828
@shayansheikhlary3828 4 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, could U please let me know if this ups back will be ok for my reolink 8 channel NVR system? Thanks
@luislast6113
@luislast6113 4 жыл бұрын
I am not the creator of this video, but basically, a UPS is a battery storage unit with output to resemble a standard wall outlet, so it will definitely work. I won't go into the math this guy does and give you an estimate on duration of use, however.
@charisnikolaidis2183
@charisnikolaidis2183 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information's, what do you suggest online UPS or Line-interactive for surveillance camera system?
@HomeTechDIY
@HomeTechDIY 5 жыл бұрын
I think line-interactive should be fine. I did a lot of testing and re-testing for this video and I didn't have any issues with this line interactive UPS. There was no flicker or static or anything noticeable when disconnecting power to the UPS... the cameras or the NVR didn't even notice the switch over to battery. Hope this helps.
@charisnikolaidis2183
@charisnikolaidis2183 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the answer, it was really helpful!!
@TheRangeControl
@TheRangeControl 5 жыл бұрын
FANTASTIC VIDEO!
@David-sd2dh
@David-sd2dh 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! Thank you.
4 жыл бұрын
The links to Amazon UPS's in your calculator are broken (HTML is broken) so the affiliate links won't work FYI.
@HomeTechDIY
@HomeTechDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know!!
@aaadock
@aaadock 3 жыл бұрын
great video!
@iship9705
@iship9705 6 жыл бұрын
thank you
@694069406940
@694069406940 5 жыл бұрын
good info 👍
@jimmy4437
@jimmy4437 5 жыл бұрын
Can you use Swann cámara system with different brand cámara like Hikvision
@HomeTechDIY
@HomeTechDIY 5 жыл бұрын
Technically, yes, but Swann doesn't make it easy. Make sure the Swann system is ONVIF compatible and the option to use ONVIF for that channel accepts ONVIF. Also you will need to active the Hikvision camera on a PC using SADP and give it an IP address to match your Swann's internal IP network. You will also need to give the Hikvision a username and password using SADP.
@nilpo19
@nilpo19 5 жыл бұрын
Swann is made by Hikvision. Aside from that, many Swann systems do not have support for ONVIF so mixing and matching can be tricky with network systems. For best results, you might want to stick to analog. Analog HD support can differ between manufacturers, but if you stick to the same type, everything will typically work together.
@GoogleUser-ws4cz
@GoogleUser-ws4cz 3 жыл бұрын
Connect a solar panel up to it
@HomeTechDIY
@HomeTechDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Cool idea. Any suggestions on which panel could connect directly to a UPS?
@mickcarson8504
@mickcarson8504 4 жыл бұрын
If that UPS is just for the NVR and PC, that's too big. I have a smaller UPS half the size of yours. It's a 400VA-2000VA. It lasts up to 3 hours of battery back up for both devices and about 4 to 5 hours just for the NVR and cameras. The computer can be switched off safely and let the UPS take care of the NVR. the UPS only cost me $AU125.
@HomeTechDIY
@HomeTechDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!! I use my main UPS for my entire network; 16 cameras, PC for recording footage, Switches and Modem. I get about 45min on a 1500va UPS. I am considering another UPS when they are on sale again to split the load.
@mickcarson8504
@mickcarson8504 4 жыл бұрын
@@HomeTechDIY 16 cameras? That's understandable, sorry. I thought you had 8 cameras, NVR, and a computer.
@HomeTechDIY
@HomeTechDIY 4 жыл бұрын
I am picking up another 8 camera NVR from Reolink in a few weeks. I will test it out with the UPS. Thanks!
@techwizcolt394
@techwizcolt394 5 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@theoriginaldashriprock
@theoriginaldashriprock 16 күн бұрын
Hardly seems worth the price for the UPS
@jh5881
@jh5881 6 жыл бұрын
Good with exception of Amazon promotes....the company that's fast becoming a monopoly.
@damianromo7051
@damianromo7051 Жыл бұрын
AMZ also behave badly & take advantages off their employees & the sellers.
@CoasttecbyCBM
@CoasttecbyCBM 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, this is CoastTec! CoastTec is the only APC Certified single-phase Uninterruptible Power Supplies (UPS) service center in the United States. Our core business is focused on providing cost-effective solutions to service, manage, and maintain your UPS devices. Our clients range from home office users to Fortune 100 companies throughout North America. Would you be interested in reviewing one of our UPS units. We have never had influencers and this is something we would like to try. If you are interested let me know! Thank you so much for your time! You can check us out on KZbin, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn. (:
@joeysaturno8250
@joeysaturno8250 Жыл бұрын
I have one of these and ot is horrible period
@radoslawjocz2976
@radoslawjocz2976 4 жыл бұрын
Very short time, this is not good
@HomeTechDIY
@HomeTechDIY 4 жыл бұрын
Which scenario are you referring to? Here is a 3000va UPS, this one should last much longer. amzn.to/3l2v5ll
@krysliberty6744
@krysliberty6744 5 ай бұрын
Connecting an entire system and router would not last long enough for repair crew to get power restored. I'm guessing all criminals would know this. Looks like plan B is going to be the better option for home security, 9mm. 😕
@HomeTechDIY
@HomeTechDIY 5 ай бұрын
It's always good to have a backup plan. 😀
@terryandteresa
@terryandteresa 6 жыл бұрын
If you need to disable the camera simply toss a tshirt over it.
@Nobody-uq2py
@Nobody-uq2py 6 жыл бұрын
These cameras are 9ft up good luck
@Nobody-uq2py
@Nobody-uq2py 6 жыл бұрын
And like,not dislike thanks.
@marklittler784
@marklittler784 5 жыл бұрын
How many t shirts altogether though..
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