Battle of Fort Bowie (1870s) - United States vs Apache

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Cut from American movie "Fort Bowie" 1958.

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@mustbefunny1007
@mustbefunny1007 5 жыл бұрын
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@iancasey704
@iancasey704 9 ай бұрын
Can't beat these old western movies!
@razorshark9320
@razorshark9320 2 жыл бұрын
Love western movies. Outlaws, Native American warriors, Law Men, Horse Soldiers, and epic gunfights.
@aa64912
@aa64912 6 жыл бұрын
I always wanted one of those rifles that never needed reloading
@monoecumsemper
@monoecumsemper 2 жыл бұрын
who doesn't !
@Demun1649
@Demun1649 Жыл бұрын
Just think how many school children you could massacre in one attack on the innocents. You are perverted.
@Demun1649
@Demun1649 Жыл бұрын
@@monoecumsemper SANE people. I.E. Not Yenghi.
@Konecz58
@Konecz58 2 жыл бұрын
Они никогда дуром не лезли на приступ,это выдумки автора!И почему они тявкают как собачата?У каждого племени был свой боевой клич!
@lam1012
@lam1012 6 жыл бұрын
So much better than the CGI bs you see today .
@AhmadJalalNaser
@AhmadJalalNaser 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video buddy
@walter44308
@walter44308 6 жыл бұрын
thanks love classic
@douglaswallace7680
@douglaswallace7680 2 жыл бұрын
A joy to see a stunt horse in action : 0:48 a few side steps to stop forward momentum , rear up , turn the head to the opposite side of impact , fall (actually, a roll) onto hip/shoulder , jump up , completely unharmed , ready for the next take . If you see a front end nose plant , the horse has been tripped . Laws against that .
@douglaswallace7680
@douglaswallace7680 2 жыл бұрын
A T U Is Another Joy ! T Y !
6 жыл бұрын
11.like good videos bro :)
@jpbowie
@jpbowie 3 жыл бұрын
3.39 Don't think the Apache would present himself as a target in order to lower the flag!
@rachdarastrix5251
@rachdarastrix5251 2 жыл бұрын
Considering how movies have been made over the course of the years I doubt they even did it on purpose. My guess is that they just needed to make sure that while they were filming actor A could see actor B and didn't actually spend enough time stopping to think about how it looks to the audience. The good news is that the retro Westerns didn't usually get too much wrong. This is because at the time some of the veterans from final battles between the settlers and the natives were actually still alive. The moment these veterans finally died they went from almost every native soldier having a gun to suddenly depicting them as just having bows and not even knowing what a gun was even though at that point they had already been using guns for centuries.
@cacatr4495
@cacatr4495 2 жыл бұрын
@@rachdarastrix5251 They "didn't usually get too much wrong"? Fort Bowie, which is in Cochise County of southeast Arizona, which can be seen in my Cochise County playlist, didn't even have any surrounding fortressing, no upright timbers forming a wall. It was wide open, as most all forts were. There were many errors in old movies.
@rachdarastrix5251
@rachdarastrix5251 2 жыл бұрын
@@cacatr4495 I realized I spoke too soon when I saw the supposed time periods on the other videos.
@jan-eriktrres3654
@jan-eriktrres3654 6 жыл бұрын
Fort Bowie was not made with wooden palisades. In fact it did not have any palisades. But its a nice classic anyway
@bdinaz
@bdinaz 2 жыл бұрын
Correct. And the only battle fought nearby was the battle of apache pass which this is nothing like.
@mobileshop7176
@mobileshop7176 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice Choose.
@dragonblancoamvs8547
@dragonblancoamvs8547 6 жыл бұрын
Likeeee
@drcurv
@drcurv 6 жыл бұрын
A most enjoyable romp - I'll try to ignore Midland's comment below that it's all bs. Had to laugh at the increase in the braves' numbers, though - at the start of the raid there are about 20 of them on horseback, yet as the battle progresses there seem to be more and more each minute, despite their losses. Dooooooo like that sexy Apache female on horseback - she's hot!
@omerreyizz8603
@omerreyizz8603 6 жыл бұрын
mustbefunny * bro dude nice cool good video #3.like
@imranshaikh22k88
@imranshaikh22k88 6 жыл бұрын
nice
@davidedbrooke9324
@davidedbrooke9324 6 жыл бұрын
Lovely white horse. The guy with the pistol hits more than the riflemen.
@rachdarastrix5251
@rachdarastrix5251 2 жыл бұрын
1 half of my brain: "That makes no sense. The gunman with the.." Other half of my brain: "Please, shut up and watch. Trying to use logic when that happens won't help." First half of my brain: "But..." Second half of my brain: "Remember what happened last time?"
@midlandredux
@midlandredux 6 жыл бұрын
Not a good entry in this list. There never existed any fort like this in the American west, nor was there an Apache attack on a garrisoned American fort in the entire course of the Apache wars. Where would they have gotten all those logs? And why would the Apache attack a fortified position? They were tribal raiders, not Sharp's Rifles. The forts west of the Mississippi were built of brick and adobe, with buildings situated to give each other cover fire.
@danhoffman9232
@danhoffman9232 6 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the fact that the Apaches traveled on foot not on horse back like the plains tribes.
@drcurv
@drcurv 6 жыл бұрын
Aw, don't be like that, lads - spoils all the fun! Destroys those wonderful images of US Cavalry forts and 'injun' attacks I've had since my pre-teens.
@dalecarney6582
@dalecarney6582 6 жыл бұрын
I read once that seldom did the Indians attack a ft. The would abush when the men left the Ft. On patrol
@cacatr4495
@cacatr4495 2 жыл бұрын
@@danhoffman9232 The Apaches of Arizona did, some of them, travel by horse. They did attack and overcome Fort Buchanan in February of 1865, which ended that fort's use. They came by foot and by horseback that day. It was 3 miles southwest of the present-day town of Sonoita, in present-day Santa Cruz County, and that day was the last for that fort. It had no exterior fortification, it was wide open as most all forts were. It wasn't just a raid. Arizona is home to 21 tribal nations, and some of them still have horses. Yes, the Apaches used horses.
@jimmason1072
@jimmason1072 2 жыл бұрын
Note to self....make walls 3 foot higher....have more men on walls and have an inner fort to fall back into....
@rachdarastrix5251
@rachdarastrix5251 2 жыл бұрын
I like how they depict Fort Bowie as just being a few cabins with a pathetic little wooden fence around it when during the 1870s it had developed into a star fort with the latest artillery type called 12inch breech loaders and had gatling guns and 3 trenches guarded by 2 gatehouses. Just kidding I wouldn't know. ;)
@cacatr4495
@cacatr4495 2 жыл бұрын
You can learn much by watching videos of Fort Bowie in my Cochise County playlist.
@klanggunfox
@klanggunfox Жыл бұрын
What's your team because I'm team apache
@Javier-db5xn
@Javier-db5xn 6 жыл бұрын
I miss the old American accent
@bladestar2322
@bladestar2322 2 жыл бұрын
Apaches would most likely have actually set the wagon on fire and tried to burn them out rather take so many casualties.
@user-yt9eo6te3i
@user-yt9eo6te3i 2 жыл бұрын
Ну как то сражение правдоподобно .) .Индейцы проиграли только при подавляющем количественном превосходстве а не как один или два героя всех перебили .)
@barrymcclaughry9229
@barrymcclaughry9229 2 жыл бұрын
White man speak with forked tongue then and now
@dalemore9645
@dalemore9645 2 жыл бұрын
You’d think they’d build the walls a little higher.
@cacatr4495
@cacatr4495 2 жыл бұрын
There were no walls at all. If you want to see the real thing, you can do so in my Cochise County playlist, as Fort Bowie was/is in southeast Arizona. Most all forts were not fortressed by walls, but were wide open.
@BigDaddy-ti7fh
@BigDaddy-ti7fh 6 жыл бұрын
Major Tom to ground control.
@user-is2hs1oh8j
@user-is2hs1oh8j 9 ай бұрын
Onde estao os filmes de indios?????
@andrewdangelo1052
@andrewdangelo1052 2 жыл бұрын
first time i see the indians have the fort and the soldiers attacking their own fort
@thealien2.050
@thealien2.050 6 жыл бұрын
Like
@firstrollobollo1544
@firstrollobollo1544 6 жыл бұрын
so funny
@jonstaveley8355
@jonstaveley8355 2 жыл бұрын
They should of made the fort walls 5or6 foot higher .....
@irokezz
@irokezz 2 жыл бұрын
- Ну, и где ..лядь кавалерия?!
@jhorodizon3576
@jhorodizon3576 2 жыл бұрын
it's a battle of fort bowie Between United States and Mescalero Apache
@cacatr4495
@cacatr4495 10 ай бұрын
*Chiricahua? The Chiricahua and Mescalero are related bands of Apaches, but the Mescalero were largely in what is now present-day New Mexico, yes? but the old Fort Bowie was in Chiricahua Apache territory in those days, while many of the Chiricahua Apache descendants are now at the San Carlos Reservation of Arizona, not too far northwest of their original territory.
@garypulliam3740
@garypulliam3740 2 жыл бұрын
0:38 So, if the soldiers would have ever been trained to shoot, everyone of those Apache would have been dead on the first volley. I count 21 initial shots and they all missed their targets. And yes, they were plenty in range.
@videoadventures5864
@videoadventures5864 6 жыл бұрын
Why would Apaches attack in the daylight?
@midlandredux
@midlandredux 6 жыл бұрын
In the entire history of the Western frontier, there was only one attack on a fort. That was in Minnesota. The Apache were skirmishers and raiders. They would only approach a fort to steal the horses.
@videoadventures5864
@videoadventures5864 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the detail. Looking at the fort, I thought they could take it -- if they went in at night. I cannot watch these stupid melodramas. When the movie producers made the Cowboys and Indians stories, did they not realize that every fallen Apache meant a family without a father, brother, or son? And every bluecoat soldier signed up only out of desperation? As the life of last resort? The Europeans had an endless supply of desperate soldiers. And the indigenous, only their fathers and sons. And in time, the indigenous ran out of fighters. And so the West was won.
@747fa
@747fa 6 жыл бұрын
Similar to the Hekowies, they were afraid of the dark.
@videoadventures5864
@videoadventures5864 6 жыл бұрын
Explain the name, Hekowies. I cannot find that information. Perhaps you use a different spelling?
@rachdarastrix5251
@rachdarastrix5251 2 жыл бұрын
Funny enough a lot of the plains natives believed that if a man died in battle at night he went to hell for his cowardice.
@stayrospaparunas3062
@stayrospaparunas3062 6 жыл бұрын
He late to put them to the corner....
@fw2699
@fw2699 2 жыл бұрын
Title should be Apaches against intruders.
@cacatr4495
@cacatr4495 2 жыл бұрын
Most people in modern times don't know how the Apaches lived during that time. The other tribes knew, as the Apaches raided everyone, all the other tribes included. That's why they had no friends, no alliances, no other tribes to help them or to watch their backs, because they raided everyone, and that included taking captives and killing. There are 21 different tribal nations in Arizona, and the only ones that helped Apaches were other Apaches, because they attacked everyone. This was how they lived.
@tylermoulton7294
@tylermoulton7294 10 ай бұрын
@@cacatr4495gotta get the facts out
@sgtboz9730
@sgtboz9730 2 жыл бұрын
Now I've seen it all. US Cavalry assaulting over top of a fort wall held by Indians.
@user-is2hs1oh8j
@user-is2hs1oh8j 9 ай бұрын
Onde estao os bons filmes de indios??????
@adamcheklat7387
@adamcheklat7387 5 жыл бұрын
0:49-0:55: Man, what a lousy shot!
@mrwisnuh
@mrwisnuh 4 жыл бұрын
Apache:uluu uluu uluu uluu Me: :VVVV
@mullapakao2256
@mullapakao2256 2 жыл бұрын
welding
@egditfonseca5675
@egditfonseca5675 2 жыл бұрын
póngalas en es pañol por favor estamos en venezuela
@koskamysskosoj611
@koskamysskosoj611 2 жыл бұрын
И Рейган такой молодой...
@Hamishtarah
@Hamishtarah 2 жыл бұрын
Not a clever attack, I would have attacked at knight and set the ennemy's fort alight,
@dipanchakraborty4276
@dipanchakraborty4276 2 жыл бұрын
I love apche woman 😘😘😘😘
@user-tb2vv9rv5n
@user-tb2vv9rv5n 2 жыл бұрын
Фильм о уничтожении коренных народов!? Кто теперь ответит?
@cacatr4495
@cacatr4495 10 ай бұрын
The Apaches, the band known as the Chiricahua Apaches (who are portrayed in this movie), were destroying themselves before the descendants of Europeans arrived, because they were raiding and attacking everyone, that means all the other tribes, including taking captives and killing, such that they were hated by the other tribes. They would steal all the hard-worked winter stores of the other tribes (who were skilled and industrious, who farmed), leaving them to starve while they feasted on stolen foods. Other tribes lost family members and horses too, to the Apaches, so they had a long running reputation by which the other tribes hated them. As a lifelong Arizonan, members of other tribes have told me these things. There are 21 different tribal nations in Arizona. Because of their raiding and killing practices (that is how they lived through the centuries), their numbers had already dropped greatly, and by continuing in their ways, their numbers greatly plummeted. They didn't work for their sustenance like the other tribes, all they did was raid continually. That's how they lived, they were renown for it.
@begoodever8584
@begoodever8584 2 жыл бұрын
You are not shy.a nation country tights tribe.shame on you and those criminals who did the massacre
@markcastelletti483
@markcastelletti483 Жыл бұрын
Definition of irony. Indians defending a fort against attacking US cavalry. Who came up with this plot?
@bernoman2404
@bernoman2404 6 жыл бұрын
However, nothing new for newspaniards "Dragones de cuera" and mexican Comancheros.
@Tequery
@Tequery 2 жыл бұрын
12:43 saya tidak tahu siapa yang mati
@thantunaunggoldeneagle5113
@thantunaunggoldeneagle5113 Жыл бұрын
***I"M APACHE*** ****FREEDOM IS"NT FREE LET'S SAVE BURMA**** THANKS !
@ChoysaiFok-xy9kr
@ChoysaiFok-xy9kr 10 ай бұрын
Need ally with cowboy bro sis
@warlandpaint
@warlandpaint 3 жыл бұрын
Simply burn the house ....end game 🤣
@creatinepowder353
@creatinepowder353 5 жыл бұрын
LOL..they took the front wheels off of that wagon and made a ramp so they could jump over the Fort wall too funny..I guess they didn't see the main gate of the fort already opened..riding into the main gate would have been easier.. what a stupid film.. the producer of this movie must have been a stoner from the Woodstock era..LOL
@zoranobradovic4366
@zoranobradovic4366 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂Apache holte die Flagge runter 😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂
@alvinchongchong9712
@alvinchongchong9712 2 жыл бұрын
Too least s
@cumhurakin1281
@cumhurakin1281 Жыл бұрын
Hı w hı bir ha IP a
@vicsingfield725
@vicsingfield725 6 жыл бұрын
all cant shoot
@davidlong3824
@davidlong3824 2 жыл бұрын
A bit one sided the Apaches have Henry repeating rifles.
@arturopalos2739
@arturopalos2739 2 жыл бұрын
Apache Genocide.
@cacatr4495
@cacatr4495 2 жыл бұрын
As I understand it, it was quite mutual, in actual history. The Apaches had no qualms about indiscriminate killing. Other tribes here in Arizona have said that about them. They didn't just raid non-indigenous, they raided everybody, the other tribes included, and raiding included stealing, taking captives, killing, and stealing included more than just horses. Raiding was their way of life, that was how they lived, how they ate, they stole. I've spoken firsthand with other tribes-members, and this is what they have said. Local historians have said the same thing. Arizona is home to 21 different tribal nations. Their raiding and killing of other tribe's members is why they had no one to back them up when tougher times came. They had created enemies of everyone around them, so no one would help them.
@kwd3109
@kwd3109 2 жыл бұрын
@@cacatr4495 Thank you for the interesting local history
@cacatr4495
@cacatr4495 2 жыл бұрын
@@kwd3109 Other tribes worked hard to grow, harvest, gather and store away food for the tribe for the winter. That was their winter sustenance, how they lived. Imagine how they felt when all that was stolen by Apache raiders, when their family members were taken captive, animals too, when their tribal members were killed. Those tribes would have to start from scratch during winter just to survive, because their winter-stores had been stolen. They'd grow thin and barely survive because of it, while the raiders were sitting fat and happy eating the stolen food, having done nothing to grow, harvest, or gather it. They sometimes sold captives into slavery in Mexico, trading them for a cow.
@jasonchiang7414
@jasonchiang7414 2 жыл бұрын
Bad movie.
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