Battle of the Ports - Race Drivin' (RACE DRIVIN) Show

[@fcoraoni]

13:00 A truck doing a loop and a stunt car not. Welcome to the videogames' world!

[@anasbakhit4303]

that truck driver is a professional! 😃 well technically the truck didn't do a single mistake so it build enough speed for the loop.

[@stuartcastle2814]

A couple of years back, I was playing Assassin's Creed Syndicate, and was walking around near the game's recreation of Blackfriar's Bridge, when an Ai driven horse and cart skidded round the corner and tumbled over my head..

[@Sakf504]

You know that something is wrong with the 16-bits ports when the Game Boy plays better than them all

[@fungo6631]

No shit, when Argonaut is the developer.

[@Larry]

Nintendo were so impressed with Argonaut's port of Race Drivin', they offered them the job to develop StarFox!

[@HPLins]

Larry Bundy Jr they should have done the Snes port as well and not only the GB. The Snes one is terrible and it is by tengen if I’m not wrong.

[@TheMrMaynard]

Right on the money here, Game Boy version is a technological achievement on that little device.

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

Larry Bundy Jr ~ edgy one with the standard facts!!! ~ hes everywhere!.... it is a staple in gaming history.

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

...also regarding snes version... i know its awful compared to MD version....is that because MD can do more "polygons" than snes without added chips/hardware or is this purely down to its slow 3.5mhz processor compared to the MDs 7mhz? Or just dire development? !

[@M4R14NO94]

It also uses the same engine that was later used for the JP-only, Nintendo-published X, which I believe that was what led them to do Star Fox.

[@lurkerrekrul]

"I was constantly struggling with the controls." Yup, sounds about right for Race Drivin'/Hard Drivin'. :)

[@krissymarklewis1793]

It put me off driving, thats for sure!

[@TheMrMaynard]

As an owner of a PS1 copy, Id say its the best out of all next to the GB Version. And yes, the PS1 copy is very hard to find.. It took me 2 years to find a clean version complete with the spine card. Honestly if it wasn't for this game, I would never have known to drive with a clutch. No seriously, long story short a bowling alley had this game and a friend of mines parents were the owners. When the found out about me getting my license but not knowing how to drive with a 5 speed and clutch, they invited me to play this game as much as I wanted on free play. Till this day I still want a sit down cabinet of the original and can do pretty well on the Super Stunt Course.

[@RetroCore]

Ah, the beauty of being British, we practically all know how to drive a manual transmission car :D

[@gear323]

The Arcade version of this game was flat out AMAZING for it's time. You HAVE to play it with the super strong FF steering wheel to enjoy it properly.

[@metalcoola]

Games made by Atari Games were pretty innovative back in the day: Gauntlet, Hard Drivin, Indiana Jones: Temple Of Doom, Pit Fighter...

[@osamaroum]

surprisely the gameboy version plays better than the snes version !!!

[@RandomisedGamingYouTube]

Sadly there's no getting away from the fact Race Drivin' is a true turkey of a game. No matter what system you play it on.

[@RetroCore]

Hehe, that is so true. Strangle though I was always drawn to playing Hard Drivin on the Mega Drive. I actually still own the Japanese release of it.

[@Wik3dNuTS4k]

Look at crashtestdrivin's vid on it, it looks way better

[@stuartcastle2814]

As a massive fan of the Amiga, I have to admit that the Graphics chip used (whatever version) did not handle 3D well. I know that the CD 32 had hardware accelerated chunky to planer support, which would have helped, at least in the short term, that came too late. Commodore couldn't afford to keep going. That still doesn't excuse the awful controls though..

[@MarioKartSuperCircuit]

The Graphics Don't Count If The Gameboy Can Run It Fine With No Lag...

[@peteralexander2941]

The gameboy port was so impressive Nintendo hired argonaut to work on games for the super fx chip, which lead to starfox on snes (itself very impressive)

[@solarflare9078]

I have a feeling more effort was spent with the animation than the actual game in the Amiga version.

[@philipriding]

Arcade for me. But even that got a bit jerky at certain points but in 1990 it was amazing

[@axelfoley20]

Genesis version is very solid. Plays excellent, doesn't look as good as Amiga/Arcade and Atari st or the 32 bit versions but it's pretty good.

[@JFD62780]

...When I first saw this game in a Nathan's arcade in Westbury, Long Island in New York State, I could not believe how realistic and 3D videogames could be. Granted it was the year 1991, and I couldn't quite get that same feeling of awe again until I first saw Daytona USA sometime in 1994. You read right, not even Virtua Racing the year before could satisfy my mind. The former introduced me to the novel concept of polygonal 3D graphics; the latter introduced the now-ubiquitous concept of high-framerate 3D graphics. Hell. I'm amazed this game even HAS a full length music track; I thought they were mainly jingles...

[@RetroCore]

I was quite amazed to find out about the music tracks too. I was wondering what I could use for the show at one point.

[@chunkycjw]

Surprised that Domark never made a better version on the ST and Amiga, they went on to make some pretty nice F1 games featuring polygons and sprites. Heard that the Game Boy version was good, just shows what a capable developer can do.

[@RetroCore]

I don't think Domark were the developers, just the publisher.

[@Legofaner]

I remember playing it when I had a Midway Arcade Treasures volume for my Xbox during my childhood. That and Hydro Thunder were amongst my favourites of that collection. I definitely feel some charm for those dated polygonal graphics, which is why I sometimes come back to it every now and then. Part of me might even consider it a cult classic. Anyways, great work with this episode, a true surprising one for me.

[@RetroCore]

I also like flat shaded polygon games. They kind of have a timeless look to them.

[@daitenshi9124]

Those loops are no joke, that's for sure. XD Also could someone tell me how that U-Haul truck could hit a loop at 25 mph and not completely stall halfway through?

[@fungo6631]

Maybe special tires with lots of grip?

[@thefurthestmanfromhome1148]

Zero Magazine review of the Amiga version called it.. CRAP DRIVIN II saying the cars handle like turds on skates, had limp graphics, dire sound and the sense of speed was practically non-existent 🤣

[@skwirl3014]

Thanks for bringing the PS1 and Saturn ports to my attention. Its very interesting that there are extra tracks on them and they run above 20 fps.

[@RetroCore]

Sadly both the Saturn or PlayStation games are very good. The PlayStation version is also rather rare.

[@philrangersfootball]

I had hard drivin for the c64 then upgrade to snes later on and rented out race drivin thinking it would be a lot better than the c64. I was wrong.

[@sumdood8563]

12:31 pfffft only the Sega Saturn can handle the immense power demonstrated in the REAL MODE! Edit: I posted this comment before finding out that there was in fact a real mode for the race drivin’ port on the saturn, I intended to reference hard drivin’.

[@yannic1036]

That Amiga version is pretty crap, but the intro was really cool.

[@diegoaccord]

I still have great memories of these games. My first Genesis game was Hard Drivin, and I've owned Race Drivin on Genesis, Gameboy (was a huge surprise to me too!) and PS2 in the Midway collection. I would buy a deluxe arcade if it's possible to upkeep the mechanicals of them.

[@Jamesfo8rf]

I loved the arcade cabinets for this game as a kid! The Argonaut boys are the geniuses behind the super fx chip!

[@losalfajoresok]

I had the luck to see one of these machines here in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Nobody played though because looked really intimidating with the three pedals and the ignition key, so I never played it either.

[@Charlie-Cat.]

Love Race Driven Mark. So many fond memories playing this fantastic driving simulation just like Hard Drivin back in the arcades with my brother. I still would love to get an arcade cabinet on this one Mark. I can make good use to it. 8^) Thank you as always Mark. Keep it up. Anthony..

[@RetroCore]

I remember playing this arcade cabinet as a kid.. Oh man, I couldn't even get it in to gear because I put it in to manual mode! I had no idea what a clutch was back then.

[@Charlie-Cat.]

Excellent. Thank you as always for what you do for me, the Neo-Geo thread, and the video game community bro. 8^) Anthony..

[@JamesElterman]

Thanks! I love your racing game battle of the ports.

[@RetroCore]

Thanks James. Hopefully I'll do more in the future.

[@miikasuominen3845]

I have to say, the arcade section footage looks like the alcohol awareness education video ;) "Don't drink and drive!" xD Anyway, jokes aside. I remember the awe, that at the time, was the arcade Hard Driving. Nothing like that was in the existence, at that time! I remember getting it to ST and being kind of disappointed, not so of the framerate (which nowadays look awful too), but mostly the controls... This is one "game", that time has really passed by nowadays. It really has very little "meat" and as the gimmick of graphics has faded, there isn't much to enjoy. Playstation and Saturn versions look nice (though as you say, forget the textured modes) and of course GB-version is nice considering the platform. If SNES-version runs only on it's original CPU, then it's surprise they got it "running" at all! xD Overall I'd say Hard and Race Drivin' are an unenjoyable relics, which time has totally passed by now. For me, there is still some nostalgia for being a kid at the time they came out. But really playing them now is more a way of self torturing :D

[@AchtungBaby77]

It's probably also worth keeping in mind that most (all?) arcade games were designed to take your money, fairness never really came into it. I still enjoy playing retro games for nostalgia value, but Hard and Race Drivin' should've never been ported to any home system since nothing at that time was powerful enough to do 3d polygon graphics.

[@BAKU2K2]

I don't know if it were the same for Race Drivin', but its prequel Hard Drivin' had different variations of the game, an American version, a British version, a European version, and a Japanese version. The American and European versions have you drive on the right side of the road, and the British and Japanese versions have you drive on the left... I think the road signs in the game were also changed to correspond each country/region.

[@RetroCore]

In the console ports of Race Drivin' you could change the speed from KM/h to MPH. You can also change the side of the road you drive on. the Amiga, ST and Dos versions don't have such options.

[@Clasiku]

Ooh yes! Another BotP episode! Amazing work, Mark!

[@RetroCore]

Thanks Clasiku. You're the first to comment as well.

[@Clasiku]

Hehe, yup. That surprised me as well.

[@RetroCore]

I'll see. I have a few other things planned. I'll see how much time I have this week.

[@heidirichter]

I had no idea your channel existed until just now, KZbin suggested this video to me, and I'm thankful for it, as I've now subscribed, and will now see what other videos you've made. That was very well done. I do have a question, was the MS-DOS version played on DOS-Box, and if so, what were the cycles set to, and what core was being used, as it looked to me like it was running too fast and smooth for late 80s - early 90s, more like Pentium speeds - which of course would make it much better than the Amiga and Atari ports on CPU power alone.

[@RetroCore]

Hi Troy and welcome to the channel. Hope you enjoy the other content the channel has. The PC version was indeed running in Dos Box. I didn't change any setting mind you, just left them on default.

[@JohnSmith-qn3ob]

I had problems with the Soundblaster on the DOS version too. Try using the Ad Lib.

[@RetroCore]

Thanks for the tip

[@DanielMonteiroNit]

Texture warps are typically caused by fixed point math coupled with faster but less precise algorithms to handle polygon seams. Since the Saturn handles quads rather than triangles natively, there are less seams to distort.

[@RetroCore]

yep, that is right.

[@TheSocialGamer]

Wow... GBoy version..!

[@RetroCore]

It's cool, isn't it.

[@ojbeez5260]

I love the sarcasm at the end of the video about the Gameboy version being the best. The THQ versions of RD were total crap!!!🤣🤣🤣

[@RetroCore]

THQ in general were crap. I'm amazed they made it out of the 16bit age. Every game owithbthe THQ name on it was a turd.

[@ojbeez5260]

@@RetroCore Turd HQ

[@marioghernandez4960]

So this is what you were working on during that stream test... Very well done.

[@RetroCore]

Yep. YOu also got to see my half arsed typing too full of awful typos. I honestly had no idea that was streaming. I had hit stream and record footage at the same time.

[@marioghernandez4960]

Translation issues, perhaps?

[@BornToPun7541]

I've played the arcade versions of both Hard Drivin' and Race Drivin'. I can't see well enough to drive a real car, but I would dare say that doing so would be easier than playing HD and RD. ;)

[@RetroCore]

Lol, you're very right. Ive also played both games in the Arcade and can drive. I can tell you that real life driving is far easier.

[@AxelDragani]

Now there's a SA-1 patch for the snes version that makes it super smooth!

[@RetroCore]

And super fast.

[@YuukoEnjoyer]

Man do I love the main theme of Race Drivin'. Easily one of the best songs in gaming.

[@SelfIndulgentGamer]

I always found anything that claimed to be a simulation had the worse traction possible.

[@RetroCore]

That was so true back then.

[@MegaTerryNutkins]

The Gameboy version has been a sleeper technical marvel for ages, surprisingly good gameplay too. had no idea it was on PS1, where did you even get the ISO? I have it on GB and PS2.

[@RetroCore]

I own the original game for the PlayStation. It's pretty rare which may explain why there is no ISO of it. Maybe try ISO Zone. they tend to have a lot of uncommon files.

[@MegaTerryNutkins]

Eventually got it, had to sign up to a Russian forum. Completely not worth it, GB version better!

[@RetroCore]

Hehe, well. At least you can now say you've played it. It came out 2 years after the Saturn game yet it sure doesn't show 2 years of improvement. The Saturn version was one of the first 3D games to be released on the system. It's still awful mind you.

[@kitestar]

Now this brings back memories, I used to have the GC version. However I didn’t know there was a Saturn or psx version

[@RetroCore]

The Saturn one is easy to find but a Japanese exclusive. The PlayStation version is also a Japanese exclusive but pretty rare.

[@Jamesamong007]

The only thing that was fun about this game was crashing your car on purpose, especially in the Genesis version since the crash sound sounded like the joke drums "BaBOOMdiishh"

[@RetroCore]

In the Amiga and ST you crash without even knowing why 😵

[@GanjsmostPrime]

That Amiga intro!!! Man I loved amiga for it's charm and graphical grunt and sound for the time, it was outstanding. Little things from animations always seemed to have a level of fun, humour or charm to them that other ports did not seem to translate over well or just not capable of such fine details in the first place.

[@RetroCore]

To tell the truth I actually cut out all the loading from that Amiga intro. It's actually pretty annoying since it stops every 5 seconds or so.

[@GanjsmostPrime]

Retro Core ouch! I never experienced life on the 500 as I started life on an upgraded 1200 and as far as my 5 year old brain could tell "most games" ran well. I do remember long pauses on a couple animations in between scenes though however. Its a shame you couldn't have a decent control set up for this game, having a steering wheel and interactive components like gear shift, is what made this game

[@johns6265]

They've cut out so much of the screen real estate with the addition of the massive dashboard and the roof in the SNES version it's barely even rendering a third of the screen, yet it's still struggling with the worst frame rate. Sure, you can point at that Amiga and ST versions aren't great but the Amiga dates back to 1985 as does the ST, the SNES came out in 1990 and renders considerably less in 3D at a considerably lower frame rate. Surely there comes a point when licensing ports where you just give up?

[@RetroCore]

The SNES was just last with 3D to be honest. Even with the Super FX chip it can't do 30fps.

[@AcesnEights698]

@@RetroCore Quarterly earning powerpoints have higher framerates than that SNES port.

[@Charlie-Cat.]

Anything you like regarding Neo-Geo Mark. The stage is all yours to use your imagination. Talking about Neo-Geo memories, your favorite Neo-Geo game, anything you wish bro. Anthony..

[@RetroCore]

Okey dokey

[@johneygd]

The gameboy version is very amezing, i still wonder how it was possible,maybe they just used rendered frames and play it in sequence to fake 3D,

[@RetroCore]

I think it is actual 3D.

[@iwanttocomplain]

If they slowed down the actual speed of the car in the ST version it would be quite good as it's fairly smooth.

[@gabrielloko30000]

Hey the Mega Drive and SNES ports..Was already presented on your Hard Drive episode. but i glad to hear you voice instead of Text

[@RetroCore]

The SNES version, yes but only the Hard Drivin' track. The Mega Drive game is a different game. That console got ports of both Hard Drivin' and Race Drivin'.

[@looe9195]

I was worried you were gonna be harsh on the Gameboy Race Drivin' But I agree. It is good. Especially for a Gameboy game. I have this version.

[@RetroCore]

Oh no, not at all. Its a fantastic effort. Far better than the crap found on the SNES.

[@looe9195]

@@RetroCore How did they even dare to release it? No use of mode 7 or anything.

[@krissymarklewis1793]

I had Hard Drivin on the speccy, the frame rate must have been in minus figures!

[@krissymarklewis1793]

no excuse really when you have generally great ports all round of the likes of Stunt car racer!

[@bhirawamaylana466]

Not really fan of first person racing game, but i must say GameBoy version is gorgeous !!!!

[@amerigocosta7452]

I'm not very familiar with this game but I can see some similarities with Stunt Car Racer, that came out in the same year for the various western Home PCs.

[@allissondiego1989]

One digit framerates should be considered a crime against humanity

[@dezm101]

these games looked great in the arcade with the deluxe cabinet, but they were horrible to play! I would try then ask my Dad to see if he could do any better since he had experience driving, but no luck lol. Thats hilarious watching the big moving truck take the loop with no problem while you are crashing about on the ps1 version

[@RetroCore]

hehe, yeah, that PSX version is nuts.

[@loudmusickillsthepain648]

There was a very good mobile game knock off a few years ago. Exactly the same as the classic but with modern(mobile) graphics. I played for hours because it was easier than the classics just because of the high frame rate and better controls. Unfortunately that game was pulled. Probably legal reasons. I wish i never uninstalled it.

[@RetroCore]

I'm going to see if I can find it.

[@gabrielloko30000]

And now i realized...Argonaut Software are the developers of Star Fox 2.!! They really know what they doin' at the time

[@RetroCore]

And the original star fox as well.

[@YuukoEnjoyer]

They should've used the SuperFX chip for the SNES and get Argonaut to develop the game.

[@RetroCore]

They should have but sadly they didn't 😕

[@thefurthestmanfromhome1148]

I would assume cost was a factor, adding the SFX chip to the cart would of pushed the price up.

[@lordmaximus780]

There has recently been a mod patch released for Race Drivin on the SNES which effectively replicates it using the more powerful SA-1 chip (used in Super Mario RPG et al). It's framerate is far more impressive as a result...but it's perhaps too fast! Still technically cool though, but the SA-1 patches work better with Contra 3 and Gradius 3 which eliminate all slowdown.

[@RetroCore]

Yeah, saw that. It's running way too fast but still cool to see.

[@StevenCusic]

I absolutely can say I have never seen one of the arcade cabs IRL

[@RetroCore]

They were pretty bulky. I saw one back when I was 16.

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

Lol that bounce back on the st version. Never played race driving on MD onlY Hard Driving....a track editor you say? ~ that must of been technical for the time....

[@RetroCore]

It is a basic track editor but still a nice distraction for a few minutes.

[@MarquisDeSang]

It has better physic and force feedback than Project Cars 2 with Jack Spade config files.

[@BlockABoots]

Why does the music on a large majority of Atari ST games sound like my Amstrad CPC464 !??

[@OperationPhantom]

Because of the AY-3-8910 sound chip.

[@GadgetUK164]

LOL @ GB version kicking butt :o)

[@RobLIVEukPSN]

I need to track down the playstation version for my collection! I had this on the megadrive and hard driv'n on the c64.

[@LeShark75]

"Holy Shit..." Lol, Brilliant..

[@thefurthestmanfromhome1148]

John Van RyzinCombat coder for the SNES version, recently posted this on Atari Age Forum: "Oddly my early 3D rendering ambitions led to other work that I should have never accepted. Race Drivin’ and Steel Talons on the SNES. The later is considered one of the worst SNES games ever made by some. But THQ had no quality standards and I was trying to make a living."

[@ExtremeAcres]

you did good for driving with a keyboard

[@RetroCore]

Thanks.

[@ThomasCaraccio]

Do the Amiga and ST ports benefit from accelerator boards?

[@RetroCore]

I'm afraid I couldn't say.

[@ZX3000GT1]

Would love to get the PS1 version, and try it in Beetle PSX HW emulator with PGXP and Widescreen.

[@scottthewaterwarrior]

Was the Mega Drive version done on an emulator? Because unless there is a significant difference between it and the Genesis version, on actual hardware it doesn't run quite as smooth. Still a lot of fun though.

[@RetroCore]

No, it was played on real hardware. Japanese NTSC Mega Drive.

[@scottthewaterwarrior]

@@RetroCore Strange, maybe it just feels more choppy when actually playing it, the difficulty does make it a little hard to judge such things.

[@RetroCore]

That could be it. The game still feels choppy when playing.

[@dazsly]

Arcade club in Bury has Hard drivin arcade. I love the key to start the engine. did they do a Jaguar port?

[@thefurthestmanfromhome1148]

No Jaguar port. Club Drive was a terrible Jaguar exclusive in the same vien though.

[@dmer-zy3rb]

oh god that snes framerate...MY EYES! MY EYES!

[@chakrazoo]

"Whoopie Doo!" :D

[@RetroCore]

😁 I was watching and older Simpsons show the day I wrote the script.

[@thrillington2008]

At least you're not using the beeper speaker for dos. And the snes is mangled all around.

[@RetroCore]

maybe the beeper speaker would have better than silence?

[@MarquisDeSang]

Better frame rate than any Nintendon't Sandwich games in mobile mode.

[@mastersproutgamer9327]

Nintendon't Sandwich? You mean Nintendo Switch?

[@topofbones]

Mmmmm....you must return to the drivin'school for some looping practice...you failed the exam xD. Good video Mark, Game Boy version surprised me too! So lame the 16bit ports in general

[@RetroCore]

I can imagine the 16 bit ports being better if only they had talent developing them like the GB version.

[@dallase1]

How do you win the Championship Race? I finished it ahead of the other car and still lost.

[@RetroCore]

I don't think I've ever won it.

[@dallase1]

I finally won the Championship Race by using the yellow car called the Classic Star or as I call it the Devon Miles Car because it looks like a car Devon Miles from Knight Rider would drive.

[@blakedmc1989RaveHD]

u forgot about Race Drivin' on XBOX, PS2 and Gamecube under tha Midway Arcade Treasures 3! it runs at 60fps and doesn't have any slowdown i have tha XBOX version myself

[@darkerfalcon3747]

Then, here comes Vitor Vilela and transforms a choppy SNES game into a smoother and playable one, thanks to SA-1.

[@anasbakhit4303]

wow, what a weird situation of the 16-Bit versions, I really thought the SNES will blow the Sega Mega Drive port out of the water since the SNES is more capable to rendere them early polygons yet runs them far much better than the MD, turns out I was so wrong at this.

[@RetroCore]

Ah, I can tell you are young enough not to have been gaming when the Mega Drive and SNES were the main consoles. The SNES is awful at polygons. The base SNES can't do much as this game shows. It's just too slow. The Mega Drive on the other hand had many polygon based games without any special chips. The only game to feature a special chip is Virtual Racing and that makes Stunt Race FX on the SNES look like a turtle trying to walk in super glue.

[@anasbakhit4303]

@@RetroCore the super glue joke is very hilarious 😂 but i actually born in the 80's, start gaming on the Atari 2600 even though I don't remember much of it until I see someone playing the games I came across on you tube or something to remember them fully, after the atari a friend of my older brothers let us borrow his MSX for around a year when he went to the US for studying, then we bought a Famicom then a Sega Genesis, later on we got a ps1 and from there we fall in love with Sony's consoles due to the exclusivs that we continue growing up with and stick with the Playstation brand as our main... ps2, ps3 and now the ps4. the Famicom is the only Nintendo platform we ever own. the SNES was more powerful than the Genesis / Mega Drive so I thought this mean it can run polygonic graphics a lot easier than the Genesis... guess that Blast Processor is doing a good job!

[@thefurthestmanfromhome1148]

@@anasbakhit4303 MD has a faster and more powerful CPU than SNES with it's 68000, also the Z80 could be used to assist with the math, titles like F-22 and LHX Attack Chopper from E. A used both. The SNES needs extra DSP chips on cart to handle the msths for polygon 3D titles

[@Brand2Tiny]

I almost mistoke this for Hard Drivin'.

[@Brand2Tiny]

Also, that SNES framerate. About the same as PUBG on Xbox One. Before it was updated. Hell, even after it was updated.

[@rafaellima83]

It is a sequel/update of Hard Drivin

[@RetroCore]

The developers PUBG have no idea how to use the Xbox One X at all. Funny how something like Rise of the Tomb Raider which looks lovely can run in Native 4K at 60fps but PUBG which looks last gen even on PC can't even do 30fps. Yep, shoddy programming for sure.

[@stoicvampirepig6063]

Problem with this game is the arcade version is pretty crap imo...I remember when it first came out and even then it had the stench of 'poor' about it.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

The Game Boy port was the best? Now that's what I call a twist ending!

[@RetroCore]

I was going with the Saturn but the GameBoy port is rather cool.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

Amazing what under-powered systems can do, in the hands of the right developer.

[@bakerstoybin9245]

Xbox original has Race Drivin smooth as the Arcade it's Midway Arcade Treasures 3

[@GeorgeGraves]

Is there a way to run the arcade version on a pc with some USB wheels and petals?

[@RetroCore]

Yep. Mame allows for wheel and peddle set up.

[@GeorgeGraves]

@@RetroCore As in the original game? Not some netindo version, but the original game?

[@RetroCore]

Yes, the original arcade game.

[@GeorgeGraves]

@@RetroCore Cool! Thanks! Where does one find the software of the game?

[@RetroCore]

Hmm, try Internetarchive.org. Search for MAME. That should point you in the right direction.

[@micronian]

The SNES version could use the help of an FX chip.

[@RetroCore]

It sure could.

[@bit-ishbulldog2089]

Mega Drive and Game Boy win because I said so.... Mega Drive is a superior machine over the Super Nintendo (That will annoy Nintendo fans) Just do a compare on MD and SNES games and I bet Mega Drive comes on top.. 9 times out of 10 better resolution and frame rate, plus less restriction on Censorship.. MEGA DRIVE RULES :) Just to make a point I do not hate the SNES, I like it..

[@solarflare9078]

HUB GOBLIN "untrue" So the superior processing, superior databus, superior resolution, superior sprite engine, cleaner sound output, etc all mean the Mega Drive is NOT superior to the SNES? The former-most of the whole list is pretty much the main reason why the Mega Drive version kicks the SNES version's ass. As much as you seem to not want to admit it, it's true. Only things SNES excels in is colors, RAM, and Mode 7, but that's it. The latter-most didn't even age well.

[@IncaWarrior3000]

I remember this game on the arcade, did not like it... is like driving on ice lol. But I have never imagine there were ports for this game, especially on the gameboy which looks more playable than the original.

[@RetroCore]

, it is like driving on ice. Real driving is nothing like this game.

[@fungo6631]

This is very similar to the Stunts game on PC.

[@Fortuna1]

Exist a prototype of this game for NES, looks complete, but is a bit choppy and with huge fps problems, but is playable

[@CowboyJoseph64]

that was hard drivin', not race drivin'. To be fair though, he didn't cover it on his hard drivin' video either.

[@RetroCore]

I didn't know about it 😉

[@CowboyJoseph64]

it's pretty interesting. It's not actually rendering any polygons, it's kinda like the C64 version, except the road up until a landmark of sorts is done with scanlines, then when you do get a landmark, like a dip in the road, or a jump over a bridge, or through a loop, it basically plays a short animation made to look like it's 3D.

[@RetroCore]

That does sound interesting. I'd like to see that it action. Time for a KZbin search I think.

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

Can you do stunt racer....played on c64 and amiga....dont think it came to consoles sadly....

[@RetroCore]

Sorry, Battle of the Ports is about arcade to home ports. Saying that I do like Stunt Car Racer.

[@mistamontiel00]

Race Drivin is on PS1!? Some compilation disc er..?

[@RetroCore]

Nope, not ts just a rare Japanese only release.

[@daishi5571]

I have a problem when comparing ports with the PC. When you compare other systems, it's easy to know the basic specs of the system. When comparing PC what specs are we talking. In this case the video options were mentioned but not the CPU which on a PC of this time was significantly beyond all other options. If emulated are we talking a CPU beyond what would have been available? And if that's true why is that not being done for other systems?

[@RetroCore]

That's the problem with PCs. In the case of these videos I set the PC to the recommended specs for the game. In this game's case that was a 386DX from what I remember.

[@daishi5571]

@@RetroCore I think for comparisons sake it would be good to add video, CPU and speed for PC. It would give context.

[@NeoSamus]

I wonder, did Race Drivin’ come out before X for the Game Boy?

[@RetroCore]

They are both developed by Argonaut in the UK :)

[@Sinn0100]

Wait a minute.. how does the truck going about your same speed minus your super fast (for the game) acceleration not flip and explode with you. Also when you said the Playstation port was good unless you play the original stuff...man, you weren't kidding. That looked tedious, almost like the person that designed it thought he was making a new Ridge Racer track. Here is where the player will drift around...oh never mind.

[@CFalcon030]

You do realize that when using a modern mouse you are using something that is about 10 to 20 times more sensitive than an amiga or st mouse would be, right?

[@RetroCore]

yes, if i was using an optical mouse I'd understand but I actually used an old logitec ball mouse for these games. That mouse was from 2000. Still newer than the Amig and ST mouse but similar tech.

[@lightdark28]

The Atari ST had a slightly faster CPU (a whole 1mhz faster 68000), which probably helped it a bit vs the Amiga, as 3D before the era of accelerators needed a capable CPU for all the calculations, same goes the Mega Drive and SNES . its rather hilarious to see the Gameboy pull off a better playing port than an Amiga or a Mega Drive, which just goes to show what you can do with a bit of effort.

[@RetroCore]

Yep, the Game Boy version is rather impressive for such a tinny hand held.

[@lightdark28]

makes you wonder what Argonaut could have done on the Amiga or ST . I think they did another wireframe 3D game on the Gameboy too , so their skills of getting 3D games running on what was more or less a banana with batteries is impressive.