Games that Push Hardware Limits 10

[@grongy6122]

That low-poly flat-textured aesthetic rocks, respect to the guy who made the intro and Joe's model

[@antdude]

Nice change. ;)

[@Shinesart]

The the screen tearing just perfect representation.

[@mrburns366]

The question I have is... did Joe really do all those dance moves? 😁

[@phattjohnson]

@@mrburns366 If so, I need that mo-cap tech!

[@csciacchitano]

Yeah that ruled

[@trentnix]

The 16-bit poly Joe is simply outstanding. It's a great idea that was well executed. Props.

[@FranklySean]

The screen tearing on Joe's model just makes it perfect

[@fullauto86]

Lolol right

[@donkeyparadise9276]

Define screen tear

[@FranklySean]

@@donkeyparadise9276 use a dictionary, donkey

[@thecrazycapn]

Man. It's amazing what a relief Virtua Racing's 15 frames a second is after the 2-10 fps before it.

[@mattnova18]

and the frame rate on the 32x is so much better, makes the Genesis game nearly unplayable in comparison.

[@doslover]

For real, it was such a shift I thought it was sped up at first.

[@yittmashups]

I had to hold onto my seat it was blazing so fast!

[@animatedplastic]

@@yittmashupstoo much Blast processing?

[@RemoWilliams1227]

​@@mattnova18I didn't play it at home until I got the 32x version. Evidently that was a blessing 😂.

[@MyRetroLife]

I know the music in Virtua Racing is short and sparse but man do I LOVE IT. It immediately takes me back to those 32X days. Great episode as always Joe

[@logan_cadfgs]

Out of all the cool production value shit Joe has done, the authentic high-fidelity screen tearing is easily the most ambitious yet

[@DavidDrury90]

Joe it's insane how the production quality and creativity of the show keeps soaring. Excellent first impression on the video. Loving it so far. Who knew you'd be even more handsome in low poly?

[@johneygd]

Yep,except for his annoying sarcastic jokes he makes🤣

[@phattjohnson]

@@johneygd Anny Ing? Is that the girl from Smooth Criminal?

[@KaloKross]

@@johneygd get tate'd on

[@Godsgood111]

​@@KaloKross lol thanks for the new catchphrase 🎉

[@ClockworkBastard]

@@johneygd that jokes is a selling point. It has to be like that

[@stevenross4223]

Nice use of the "Days go by" music video at the end! Never realised I needed to see you dance as a 3D polygonal character, but I definitely did! 😂

[@CanadianDude]

Loved that bit and the original video itself.

[@GuestZer0]

3D video games from before 3D consoles is one of my favorite aesthetics.

[@phattjohnson]

Damn straight. I got the SNES with Starwing (as it was known in PAL regions) for Christmas one year and my mind was blown. I'd hardly seen fully 3D graphics like that in arcades let alone in my very own living room!

[@SaintCyrX]

Same, more so on PC for me though. The console ones always really struggled, but the PC 3d of the time were usually competent making them more tolerable to explore imo.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

You would have loved owning a PC in the mid 80s to early 90s then. We had no shortage of such games, and even on a meager 286 they'd run pretty well!

[@neonpop80]

@@SomeOrangeCat Is there some list I can find of those games?

[@SomeOrangeCat]

@@neonpop80 I wouldn't even know where to begin. Flight sims of the era were mostly flat-shaded polygonal games though.

[@MoonSarito]

Wow, I've never heard of Drakkhen, sounds like a game I definitely want to try out, the idea of open-world 3D on a 16-bit console is just incredible.

[@erictheded]

The Star Fox demo kiosk at K-Mart blew my little mind. I had no idea such graphics were possible.

[@RemoWilliams1227]

Agreed, Star Fox was mind blowing at the time.

[@robintst]

Randy Linden's SNES port of Doom is nothing short of impressive on a technical level knowing the hardware limits in place and how he pulled it off, the guy was an absolute wizard. He also did the impossible port of Dragon's Lair to the Amiga and created the Bleem PSX emulator.

[@businesscat380]

He also worked on the Dirt Trax FX game featured in this episode. The guy is a wizard though!

[@inceptional]

And we've learned from him directly in recent times that it's even possible to pretty much double the frame-rate using HDMA properly too. So, look forward to seeing some hacker implement that at some point, if not Randy Linden himself.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

Yup! He's definitely some kind of sorcerer!

[@90sNath]

Unrelated, but God, why do people still call the PS1, PSX? A PSX already exists.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

@@90sNath Because originally PSX was shorthand for the original PS1.

[@wraithcadmus]

SNES Doom is impressive for sure, though according to Randy Linden about 95% of the lifting is done with the SuperFX2. I joke that Doom was ported to the SuperFX2 and used the SNES for playback. As Joe alluded to the 16-bit micros did a lot with 3D. Shout-outs to, Hunter for having a full 3D world with NPCs who remember you and multiple driveable vehicles in 1991, Frontier for being everywhere and a sequel to the beloved Elite, and Zeewolf 2 for probably being the most technically impressive with its patchwork floor.

[@inceptional]

Also according to Randy Linden, by going back and using the SNES' built-in HDMA feature properly, he could basically double the frame-rate now from around 10 fps-15 fps to around 25 fps. And there's talk about doing exactly that.

[@iNubpwn3r]

Not many things can cheer me more then a new GameSack episode on sunny Sunday morning. Great one too. Thanks. 👍

[@JohnSmith-or7gh]

I love how Joe's reflection is showing up on the restaurant's window. Not only that, it's the opposite side of the 3D model. Talk about level of details.

[@starlightwitch12]

It's great to see Joe rendered in 16-bit polygons for this episode, but by the 32/64-bit era Joe is fully rendered using 3DFX graphics.

[@JGreen-le8xx]

OpenGL FTW!

[@yewles1]

​@@JGreen-le8xx GLIDE!!!

[@thefrankiepalmeri]

This actually makes your channel 20000% better. Don't change this.

[@phattjohnson]

Quality uploads? Damn straight. Hope he never quits!

[@acecarrera1]

Game Sack pushes the limit of its creativity yet again. Joe now is a playable character on 32X Virtua Fighter.

[@inthefade]

Out of this World or Flashback.

[@CZpersi]

My most favourite PC game with polygon graphics was Stunts. It is incredible what they have managed to achieve with the limited tech - the level of freedom, track editor, driving model...

[@MrBirchieBirch]

I played F22 Interceptor & LHX Attack Chopper A LOT on the Megadrive. Loved those early polygonal games.

[@BeardTech]

I absolutely love the early 3d Genesis and the experimental stuff with the Saturn. Burning Rangers is one of my favourite 3d games of all time, as well as Star Fox.

[@mattycipov6080]

You are a master of the KZbin experience. I appreciate everything you do.

[@animatedplastic]

Ha. It's crazy to look back and see 16-bit games that tried to push polygons. I am finally almost caught up on all the episodes! I'm now only 11 days behind. Yay!

[@KlomboFanClub]

the editing for this video RULES gamesack goes so hard I love it

[@ErinPlays]

Yoshi did an amazing job with low-poly Joe! I love how these types of games look. It's comfy. Race Drivin on SNES is giving me flashbacks to a horrible stream I did. This is a really rad episode!!

[@brandonmorris9559]

That intro and beginning rocked I love game sack!!!

[@mikeberg6407]

The entire animation budget for this weeks episode of game sack went into the ending lol

[@TwoBlackMarks]

The F1, F1 World Championship and Kawasaki Superbike Challenge are maybe my most impressive racing games with polygons on the Mega Drive, they run very smooth. I did have (and still have) Virtua Racing in the 90s, and I did play it a lot.

[@nekononiaow]

Yup, seconded, those games use raster graphics to draw the road but all complex roadside elements are drawn using polygons. This allows for a really high frame rate coupled with good looking immersive graphics. Those games deserve to be in a future 3D episode.

[@TwoBlackMarks]

@@nekononiaow They are very playable, well, to be honest I have never finished them or anything, mostly just driven some laps now and then, but they are very playable it. Especially for such old console racing games. If I had them when new I would have played them alot probably, not that many old racing games have held up the best.. But there are some, like Outrun is the type of game I just try out, but end up just playing it some more..

[@pwnswoggle]

Another World/Out of this World and Flashback are rotoscoping sprites during gameplay just like Prince of Persia. Great work on this ep, the 3D you was gold.

[@villain253]

Joe. You rock. Thanks for all the great entertainment.

[@mx3fto]

One of the thhings I have always appreciated about your videos is the way you time everything with the beat of the music perfectly, from game transitions and including the final dance skit in this. That takes effort and it is appreciated :)

[@timothydoyle8800]

The opening was really cool. And I really appreciate your dedication to the topic by turning yourself into Flashback for this episode.

[@plume...]

29:06 Giant panther head emerges from the ground and shoots at wizards with lasers from its eyes.

[@wettuga2762]

The funny thing is that Joe actually did the dance and it was later converted to polygons. Joe's got some moves!

[@DiSCERiTY]

did he really or no?! I was just wondering if he could really dance like that or not lmao

[@yoshivu8236]

​@@DiSCERiTY he can

[@noneofyourbusiness4616]

No, they superimposed a CGI figure over an actual dancer in the music video for "Days Go By" by Dirty Vegas. Seemed a little bit too extended of a sequence for "fair use," but I'm no lawyer.

[@GetToThePointAlready]

No they didn't, they used an actual dancer to do those moves.

[@noneofyourbusiness4616]

@@GetToThePointAlready Evidence for claim?

[@wonderingmonitor1996]

Never thought I would start my Sunday watching PolyJoe dancing 😂😂😂

[@brooklynboiprod]

I thought I was watching a Dire Straits video

[@laowhy86]

My fave series! Epic job!

[@rinbros]

20:15? Not many views? This hardware pushing limits videos are the best series in the channel Joe.

[@yittmashups]

Another late night in the sack with Joe, always a good time.

[@Bangyourbirdnumb]

It's so warm & cosy.

[@MisterGiGs]

The, Dirty Vegas - Days Go By, part at the end of the video was a nice touch, brought back a lot of memories of that era of music and gaming 😀

[@kubev]

Agreed. I was hoping for a Genesis-faithful FM synth take on the song to go along with it.

[@Godsgood111]

Wow, another perfect episode. Thanks for constantly topping yourself. Im currently choreographing and practicing your sweet 16 bit polygonal dance moves.

[@lasersnake]

Great episode and the ending was brilliant 😂

[@Franky_8-Bit]

Love this episode! Primitive 3D was shocking for me when I played starfox 64. Brings back memories

[@GoldenKitSylveon]

That intro is sooo good!

[@smoothALOE]

This is hilarious. The polygon imagery during the transitions, haha!

[@xLASTxxSHOTx]

Great episode Joe! The low poly breakdance dance was incredible!

[@Fifth313ment]

Your channel is so underrated! It's so much fun to go back in time with you guys. And you always go the extra mile in your videos!

[@realDonaldTrump420]

I'm going to subscribe ten times!

[@camdenlacy9755]

Dirty Vegas - Days Go By. Classic.

[@aarontruitt]

Glad I stayed for the ending haha this is one of my favorite Game Sack post credits scenes. Well done

[@Mr.Plant1994]

If you let a fortress in dwarf fortress run long enough and get big enough it gets to a point where it starts making so many calculations that it starts bringing even the most powerful CPU’s to its knees

[@영차영차-i1z]

Incredible ep and presentation. Love those early ventures into Three Dee!!

[@etherealenigma9688]

"This episodes probably not going to get that many views to begin with" ---->>>all the people genuinely interested in this topic showing support ❤

[@fiskburk2908]

that flashback game sack logo transition was hilarious, and what an amazing episode, boy this was creative as hell, kudos to the guy who did the 3d polygons!!

[@TrashfordKent]

Hi Joe, a massive amount of effort and detail put into this episode, very entertaining to what would likely otherwise be a dull topic

[@johnrussell8086]

I never imagined that Jimmy White would ever be mentioned on Game Sack😂

[@roskelld]

Same. RIP Archer MacLean, he made some stellar games throughout the years.

[@kennethd4958]

I LOVE the "Games That Push Hardware Limits" series. What a great Sunday.

[@icelandicbanks6473]

Draekken would absolutely slay in today's market if you slap in some better looking polygons and added meta-progression. Looks like a cool take on auto battlers!

[@oscarzxn4067]

I have heard that most people hate the game.

[@icelandicbanks6473]

@@oscarzxn4067 LOL, this cracked me up, I love it.

[@steverempel8584]

I remember playing Doom with the Brutal Doom mod, Hi res texture mods, the gzdoom modern engine, and heavy metal music covers for the soundtrack, it was quite an amazing experience. Then I immediately played the SNES version afterwards for comparison, what a difference! This video reminds me of those great times.

[@gouravchakraborty9801]

Nice flashback styled intro there, Joe

[@the8wave]

Most underrated channel on KZbin… hands down. You’re up there with AVGN in my opinion. Don’t stop… please.

[@DrXJMY]

Exactly What I needed. Thank you 16-bit 3D Polygon Joe. Good job as always

[@blogrovic3138]

Finally, someone who isn't hating on Drakkhen. That little misunderstood early open world masterpiece. I love the AMIGA version forever and back. Also, whenever you thought, Game Sack couldn't improve on quality, it proves you wrong :D

[@Sweet4ooth]

Another World was always one of those games that drew me in with it's atmosphere.. time to try and finally beat it. Thanks for another great episode, Joe.

[@asa2002]

Flashbacks claim to fame was their use of some advanced Rotoscoping techniques which they had begun with in Out of This World

[@spookydonkey42]

Now this episode clearly is packed with *MEGA POWER* !!!

[@thereviewsbrothers3854]

Another excellent video. It’s amazing how you are always able to show a great mix of games we all know and still a ton that we don’t. I always love finding out about new games and this is really one of the few channels that lets me do that.

[@vallaurianv6024]

Another great video. The effort and craft you put into these are stellar. That ending 😂.

[@thefunkdroid2777]

Steel Talons had an impressive Atari Lynx port. Impressive having in mind it's a portable system from 1989!

[@flaviokauling1436]

Joe, you keep outdoing yourself with your content and presentation! Excellent episode!

[@PinchedAce1]

Great episode, Joe. I love early 3D graphics, particularly like stuff on the Amiga and megadrive (basically anything running a Motorola 68000 cpu). The chunky polygon voice over stuff was great too.

[@Reaperman4711]

I really like the genesis Domark racers. Kawasaki Superbike, and the two Formula One games (2nd euro only). I'd love to see more of these vids, since early polygon racers are 'my jam.'

[@erikdominick7404]

I'm just glad you could take the time off from moving these refrigerators and these color tvs to show these games to us

[@tubebandits4439]

This episode was sooooo exquisite.

[@bayaarlo-borjiged1841]

I loved the fact you added a reflection to your crazy dance moves in the window in some shots at the end.

[@ilikecurry2345]

Looks like Joe's finally growing into a VTuber phase.

[@Yantryman]

Joe, thank you so much! Going through very hard love situation at my 42 and you really help me with ur videos and ur chicky humor, please dont stop!

[@DJ_InYourFace]

30 seconds in and there's already a huge polygon in my pants thanks Joe

[@DanielDangerous]

How many megapower?

[@Carbine64]

Stereo of the art sound?

[@DJ_InYourFace]

@@DanielDangerous only 5 but they're thick

[@sabrinadoesmagic]

The special effects for this and the revamped music is amazing. Great work as ALWAYS.

[@scherge]

I remember getting Stunt Race FX for my birthday and how much I disliked it at first. However, since I had to wait at least four months until Christmas before getting another game I had to spend some time with it, and after getting used to the game's physics it was actually a lot of fun. Great episode, as usual, thank you!

[@poisonsnivy6439]

Oh wow, Joe made his VTuber Debut

[@82coxy]

Hard Driving on the arcade with the sit in cabinet was great, it was the first racing cabinet to use force feedback steering. It also had a H pattern shifter and clutch pedal. That game was how I learned the basics of driving stick when I was around 10. 😁

[@psychopoison]

Genesis pushing those games with no special chip in the cartridge, is crazy, really good

[@love_life_leafeon5955]

Ever since I got a graphing calculator to program on I've been obsessed with 3d engine code. Love these episodes

[@Swordslinger-hb1ns]

Fun fact Joe: if you were lucky enough to acquire an SNES Xband cartridge by Catapult you could play SNES Doom online across the country! That really 1-up the Super Nintendo version of Doom over the Sega 32X version.

[@atomicskull6405]

The Super Fx chip had it's own 256 color framebuffer and the SNES just overlayed it's graphics on top of (or behind in some cases like Yoshi's island) it's own tile layers. The SNES cartridge slot had extra pins for sending pixel data from hardware in the cartridge to the SNES's graphics hardware. So the Super FX functioned sort of like a primitive 32X in reverse.

[@Plide]

I'm suprised you didn't mention Faceball 2000 on the SNES and even the Game Boy (8-bit 3d!). I played throught the Game Boy version of Faceball 2000 and it was great fun shooting smiliods. A simple but fun first person shooter. It runs at a pretty nice 3-4 frames per second which for a simple game like it, it is perfectly playable!

[@holderbee7811]

Joe: This game sets new records... Creator Of La Cucaracha Game: Ehyeeeeeeeeees??? Joe: For how fast it gets boring! Creator Of La Cucaracha Game: AWWWW

[@DENCROW]

Missing 2 Genesis games: FORMULA ONE and KAWASAKI SUPER BIKE, both racing games from Domark that use polygons on the track and background (and both use the same engine). And on the SegaCD there was SILPHEED, which uses polygons in all space-ships and objects (the background is in FMV)

[@asa2002]

Gonna be that guy (if nobody else has)...the StarFox games, Stunt Race FX had a LOT of development done by Argonaut, then Nintendo polished it

[@nathanixslade]

This was "Another World" episode.

[@DGR_Dave]

I used to watch that Days Go By music video so much back in the early days of KZbin...hilarious to see a polygon of Joe doing the exact dance moves 😂

[@ShinyShinyIsAlwaysBeingSerious]

Always a good day when a new Game Sack video comes out!

[@pengwin_]

I really love the flat shaded low poly look, just not the very low frame rate. Would love to see a whole new wave of games using that aesthetic but now with higher framerates! Hey, maybe some day you could do an episode on newer low poly flat shaded games! Anyway, great episode Joe!

[@pcachu]

My therapist: 16-Bit Polygonal Joe isn't real, he can't hurt you. 16-Bit Polygonal Joe: 31:07

[@adamseecbrown]

In the UK it was called StarWing then Starfox. I love playing this game and its one of the best games on the SNES.

[@NotVance]

You joke about the lack of views this video might get due to the topic but my god, this might be one of your best productions ever. Everything with Poly Joe is already iconic and perfect.

[@pixelpoppyproductions]

Mig-29 was one of my favorite games of that era. I rented it dozens of times - I realize it hasn’t aged well, but the physics simulation and combat was quite deep for a Genesis game. Also I rather liked the music, although it was pretty limited.. Also I guess people don’t like it, but I had a ton of fun with Stunt Race FX. There were a lot of modes and unlockables, which gave it a lot of replayability.

[@sonataonmymind]

To say that Argonaut helped in Star Fox is to understate their importance in this case in my opinion, they were responsible for a good part of the game, in addition to being the creators of the FX chip.

[@jakeconer]

17:17 I heard that Sega planned on an expansion cartridge where it would contain the svp chip itself. Any game that needed the svp chip, you would plug the game into the expansion cartridge. However it was cancelled in favor of the 32x

[@kevinchester0533]

That would have been the way to go if they'd done it first and then had 3 or 4 games available immediately for it.

[@maxxdahl6062]

Never heard of that being an actual plan rather than something fans would have wanted instead. And I doubt that would have worked for the same reasons 32x didn't. Didn't need some half-upgrade to 32 bit, just keep releasing decent Genesis games until the saturn came out.

[@jakeconer]

@@maxxdahl6062 considering that Virtua Racing was released when the 32x was in development, it was likely something by that only existed on paper. The 32x was probably the reason we didn’t see more SVP games in general.

[@maxxdahl6062]

@@jakeconer Yeah, though I think they would have been just fine, if not better if they didn't come out with SVP or the 32x. Would make the saturn look like that much more of an upgrade without either of them, and would have put more resources into developing early saturn software. Though Sega of Japan made a bunch of dumb decisions. IMO anyway.

[@MrRom92DAW]

I love seeing the experimentation in these early efforts. It’s interesting to me that a lot of these games were on the Genesis but the SNES is the console that actually had the games with the chips specifically to do this and kinda became known for this style of 3D thanks to StarFox

[@inceptional]

It's because it takes great games to actually get more than a passing glance from the vast majority of people or just to matter in the grand scheme of things, and the first polygonal game on either of these consoles to truly blow people away in every way was Star Fox. So, by doing it right first, SNES and Nintendo earned the credit and recognition it got basically (same applies to how it did rendered cgi visuals right first with Donkey Kong Country, and it go the credit and recognition there too). But, hey, the Genesis eventually got Virtua Racing, and people still remember that game on it. It even came to the Genesis Mini 2 as well.