Battle of the Ports Remastered - Final Fight (ファイナルファイト) Show

[@dravenlee4473]

That X68000 port is stunning. I was always fascinated by near-arcade perfect ports as a kid and had no idea about this one. For me, the Sega CD/MegaDrive CD was as close as it got until MAME came along.

[@JorgeAraujo97]

Amazing how well this game has aged in the past 31 years. Just like a fine wine.

[@RetroCore]

That's a great way of putting it. It still plays really well.

[@magicvampirelver1321]

Totally agree!!

[@pjomayo]

I still find it impossible to finish Mission 1 without losing a life,lol

[@StarFox85]

I still play 2-3 times a year

[@shinkazama3959]

This game is definitely like a fine wine (especially the arcade & mega cd ports) that just get better with age! Awesome remastered botp video Mark!

[@jan-eriksandli6221]

Living in foster care my mom came one Christmas, I had told her about this great arcade game that was possible to play on my Amiga 500. My foster parents drove us to a shop called space world. Up until then, all my games were copies so this was my first original amiga game costing 60$. I remember living in denial about how bad the port was because my mom bought it. When my friends began to share the copy in the schoolyard, I felt I wasted my dear mom's money. May she rest in peace

[@Borh7777]

The Mega CD version is my favorite because of the music which is fantastic. I even prefer it to the original arcade version. Too bad its soundtrack wasn't used on the recent console port

[@lamasu]

yea, i was hoping the Mega CD versions soundtrack would be an option with the capcom beat em up collection.

[@luckyluke95]

Me too, I love Mega-CD version 👍 But the graphic color is the weak point.

[@freakyfornash]

But I think Sega owns the rights to that music (and the Sega CD port in general), thus probably won't be seeing it on any future release(s) anytime soon however.

[@kamilovskyrocker4665]

The Sega Cd version is awesome !!!! The soundtrack is amazing !!! I love It so much !!!!!

[@freakyfornash]

@@kamilovskyrocker4665 It sure was a very good port for certain! But even the arcade version still beats it, despite the Sega CD having the superior soundtrack and all though.

[@aaron_aj_knight_95]

Street Fighter '89? That's like when Shenmue was almost called Virtua Fighter RPG.

[@RetroCore]

Yep, pretty much.

[@stevesteve0521]

I mean Ryo does look like Akira so I think it would’ve still worked out

[@stevesteve0521]

TrueSinister no you’re right, he was definitely intended to be virtua fighters Ryu from his look. Too bad he doesn’t play like him though, Akira is one of my least favorite Virtua fighter characters

[@DanielAyy]

Final Fight CD is still one of my favorite games for the Mega CD

[@nasanchez964]

It was one of those few games that made the mega cd worth it.

[@DanielAyy]

@@nasanchez964 heck, it was one of the reasons why I got one in the first place

[@ryzmaker11]

@@nasanchez964 "few" someone has little idea of the mega-CD library ;)

[@NEStalgia]

Is this Mega CD like a final fight movie? I dont understand Was the final fight Guy released later by Capcom as a spin off?

[@alritedave]

NEStalgia BR It’s here in the video lol. Very good port.

[@PyronsLair]

Wow I'm big surprised to see my version on oficial retrocore release, thanks for the honor and for enjoy my stuff.

[@RetroCore]

You're very welcome and thank you for making the colour patch.

[@RAMCARTGAMER]

Yo Pyron, your work on all the re-color games is amazing, Thank you for the effort! My raspberry pi (in a retro-flag Megadrive case no less) appreciates it so much. God speed and heavens luck on your next project.

[@PyronsLair]

@@RAMCARTGAMER thanks dude, I really appreciate you guys enjoy it

[@alritedave]

Your patches kick ass!!

[@davidfernandezsabio3844]

Thank you Mark for this remastered video.First port I played was the SFC one altough it was very dissapointing having in mind the arcade version.

[@WrightOffsGaming]

These remasters are f'ing brilliant thanks Mark! What a game this was in the arcades, my favourite setup was a sit-down cab in a awesome arcade in Hull city centre called Sunspot. They got all the decent releases and was very competitive for the hi scores. It has to be that Mega CD version for the home, I was starved for new software like everyone else importing games at the time so when this was delivered it was solid gold, amazing soundtrack and a fully complete conversion, apart from the weird colours and sprite flicker for me it was perfect.

[@RetroCore]

I remember playing the Mega CD game on Japanese import back in the day. It was Awsome. Such an amazing port that really showed that the Mega CD was a viable platform. If only other games like this came to the Mega CD.

[@MagisterHamid]

One of my all time favourite games. It has aged really well. 30 damn years!

[@Nozzat]

Mega Final Fight on the Mega Drive looks amazing.

[@RetroCore]

It sure does. Can't wait for that release.

[@captaincommando2602]

I remember playing this game thanks to the Capcom Classics Collection Vol. 1 in 2016. Yes I met this classic later. I really like Final Fight but my heart belongs to Captain Commando.

[@NeoGeoNinja81]

100% with you here! Final Fight did it first, but I prefer Captain Commando then AvP, C&D, Battle Circuit etc.

[@davideselvi3906]

One of the best in-depth documentaries about Final Fight!! I guarantee this since I'm a huge FF fan! Keep up the good work, man! These videos should really be broadcast on TV instead of all the crap stuff we're used to today

[@dougr.8653]

Another masterpiece remade. Thanks for the effort, Mark.

[@RetroCore]

you're welcome.

[@maxmatson1578]

I used to have the Sega CD version of the game. That soundtrack is part of my childhood!

[@jasejj]

Mighty Final Fight on the Spectrum shows that it is possible to do this game justice on the whipping boy machine. Small sprites but great gameplay.

[@viceyvice]

I had no idea that the Double Impact version censored the intro. Turns out it's this way on the Arcade 1up version too. Sega CD version ftw.

[@RetroCore]

That's just sad. These days the world is so PC its stupid.

[@youtubesuresuckscock]

The original USA arcade version is censored. Double Impact is just an arcade emulator. The English versions of the arcade game didn't show Jessica in the intro.

[@marcoaurelioventilarijunio1757]

Final Fight Double Impact (Xbox 360, Ps3) is the ultimate vesion: Arcade quality and best remix songs!!!!

[@youtubesuresuckscock]

Nah. You can play the arcade version in MAME with any music you want (Double Impact, arcade, X68000, or Sega CD), and there's a 3 player simultaneous arcade version you can play on MAME and real boards. And the native PC version of the game is better than any of them anyway.

[@youtubesuresuckscock]

@@dariusthefactor Nah.

[@Victory-in-YAHUSHA]

Final Fight One is the best for me. It has the most added content and plenty of replay value with different colored character pallets, two additional characters, saving and plenty of on screen enemies like the arcade game.

[@rjls2451]

Awesome game. One of my favourites!! However... It's no Streets of Rage 2.

[@newtypepunk9967]

Yes SOR2 and Turtles in time will always be my top two beat em ups. Although Final Fight is for sure still an awesome game.

[@shikarbabulall3897]

Well this is a 1989 game street of rage must be 1991 for that matter the punisher and Cadillacs and dinosaurs are more advanced games

[@shikarbabulall3897]

@@Ccr-lz1px wikipedia's says August 2 1991 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streets_of_Rage

[@NeoGeoNinja81]

Yeah, I'd like to think it was pretty common knowledge that Final Fight came before Streets of Rage but... maybe it isn't?

[@DenkyManner]

@@Ccr-lz1px That's wrong. It lists the hardware as System 18, which is an arcade machine, SoR was developed for the Mega Drive and came out in 1991. Final Fight is directly based on Double Dragon if anything, it even references/copies the intro of the gang taking the girlfriend away.

[@anonymoususind]

25:05 Mobile port is the only one which didn't play the intro amongst all of the ports

[@solarflare9078]

I always adored Capcom's CPS1 music. It was harsh, sure, but in a tasteful way. In a way that doesn't sound tinny, or like straight up noise (unlike, ahem. GEMS.) It sounds loud, punchy, and even quite impressive in some regards (That FM brass in particular is very well made). In my opinion, CPS1 has the best soundtrack, with Double Impact just behind it.

[@chrismifsud7154]

An Amiga remake enhanced exists now. Has smooth scrolling, great frame rate, music AND sound effects at the same time, two fire buttons and you can also select Maki as a playable charachter.

[@RetroCore]

Nice to see someone has made the effort to fix the abomination that we got.

[@shotgunl]

Another great remastered BotP! Man, I used to absolutely adore Final Fight. I still love it, but I have to admit that I don't play it nearly as often these days as Streets of Rage, Double Dragon, TMNT, etc. Still, I played the arcade version every time I got a chance, and a friend got the SNES game just after its release (I didn't get a SNES until later). Even being slightly irked at having to take turns, we played so much of that version too. The SNES original release was not perfect but was still fun. Final Fight 3 was by far my favorite of the series on the SNES, but I don't dislike the SNES port of FF 1. Final Fight CD on the other hand was a system seller in my opinion: it's just simply an all around great port. It did so many things right: good graphics, sound, music, speed, and lovely 2-player action. And, Pyron's color hack is great too. Makes me wish Punisher had got this kind of love. I also picked up Final Fight One on GBA on its release. I remember having a lot of fun with that at the time, but, to be honest, I haven't played the GBA version in a looong time. I've never played any of the other ports. No matter the quality of any of the ports, Final Fight, along with Phoenix, Street Fighter 2 and Alpha 2, Virtua Fighter 1&2, Ms. Pac Man, Operation Wolf, Double Dragon 1, X-Men, and a few others are arcade cabinets that I simply do not have enough will power to walk by and not drop a few credits in and play.

[@RetroCore]

Yeah, the original Final Fight is aging a little these days compared to games which followed but its still nice to have a blast on it every now and then.

[@SebasHCG]

^_^ hi Mark, for the history, i would note that during these recent years someone worked on an Experimental "2 Players" Patch for FF Guy. even added Cody to it, a must seen : lot of flickering when too much sprites on the same lines & some slowdowns as expected but hey ! fully enjoyable, played it with my bro to the end without crashing on the original hardware ;D

[@RetroCore]

Someone else just mentioned that too. Wasn't aware of such a cool hack. I need to check that out.

[@SebasHCG]

@@RetroCore & if you have an SD2SNES that support MSU-1 you can play this with more soundtracks (XB Remix, Sega CD, Arcade...) :p

[@SebasHCG]

@Frozen Retro ! as i said earlier, i play on the real hardware bro' ;), but good to know :D

[@SebasHCG]

@Frozen Retro ! i did not expected an answer from you & surely not a salty like that. see ya next time Mark.

[@dbnpoldermans4120]

Wow, this is a big coincidence. I've had the Belt Action Collection for a while now sitting sealed, because my slim ps4 does not like to provide audio to my tv, so I ordered an hdmi audio extractor, which I installed today. It works luckily. So literally today one hour ago I opened up the collection with the 7 poster and ran the disc in my ps4. I played a few second of Final Fight too and now a remastered edition of Final Fight BOTP. I love these remastered versions of your videos! Amiga version is running in 50hz, should be 60hz. The music is way too slow. Not that it would be much better. All games should run in 60hz. All those computers ports were done always by one guy in maybe 2 weeks. So they're most likely always crap. They were never meant to be any good. Just trying to make some profit. Focus was on nice arcade artwork on the box, heck perhaps even put on some arcade screenshots. The Amiga was just the worst, the only arcade ports that were ever decent were one screen games like Rod.Land. The music on the Amiga though was usually excellent. Wow, the GBA port sounds horrible, some notes seem to be off key. I don't understand what is going on, but it's really rubbish Cool that you put the BOR Dreamcast version in there and the pyron color hack of the mega cd version I was jamming out to the outro! What a wonderful video! There's also a 3 player hack in the works for real hardware! kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5WwmoBndtt4bLs

[@afropowa1598]

I remember playing this game in Capcom Classic Collection Vol. 1 and really hating the music. I thought "I remember this game having awesome music, WTF?" Year laters, I play the Sega CD version and realize that was the version with the good music in it.

[@RetroCore]

Haha 😅 I shouldn't laugh but that did make me giggle. The Arcade version does sound awful.

[@foxmcleod]

@@RetroCore Did you try that MAME version that uses the Arcade Rom combined with the SegaCD soundtrack? That's the ultimate Final Fight version

[@solarflare9078]

Benjamin Owuye Jagun Not to mention how Capcom compensated for the harsh and loud FM for the even louder sound effects. If the FM was quieter, the music would hardly be audible.

[@solarflare9078]

D core I agree with almost everything you said

[@BAZFANSHOTHITSClassicTunes]

I love Final fight, its one of my most played street brawlers. First played this in the Arcades then on Atari Ste then Amiga.

[@dreamcastfan]

Thanks for not being too hard on the SFC ports, I’ve always rather liked Final Fight Guy. I’ve always felt it had the potential to be pretty good if Capcom had spent a bit more time and hadn’t cheaped out on a smaller cartridge. Like you mentioned, there’s loads of unfinished stuff in the ROM including the basics of a two-player mode and the missing factory level. I’m not totally surprised the 360 game isn’t a port. I’m pretty sure when Capcom made the classics collection for the PSP they built easily portable versions of the game, as the same versions of SFII and Final Fight from that collection ended up on iOS. So it could well be the same code used again for the Xbox.

[@RetroCore]

The SFC version for the time was rather impressive. Sadly it doesn't hold up too well these days.

[@ShinobiWan1]

Oh wow the Amiga/Atari versions! The Atari’s music kind of reminds me of Shinobi

[@topofbones]

Best Major simulator of all time. Why waste your time in boring meetings with the councils when you can directly make a suplex to the problems??? Mega CD version on fire!

[@ryzmaker11]

that comment 😂 👍 the world defo needs more mayors like mike haggar, holy sh*t that would be awesome!

[@MusicalPenguin127]

This is one of those games that just didn't belong on the micro computers.

[@OperationPhantom]

Meat from the trash eh? :) Probably still more sanitary than eating meat that was hidden in castle walls for who knows how long. Another great remastered BOTP!

[@RetroCore]

Lol, quite possibly.

[@samgao]

the dreamcast mod sounds like the sound effects came from the street fighter series on the SNES

[@alder613]

In my honest opinion, this game has aged far better than Double Dragon.

[@RetroCore]

You're not wrong there. Double Dragon's main problem is the underpowered hardware that has the game slowing down like crazy.

[@solarflare9078]

Retro Core It's not even underpowered hardware. It's piss poor programming. Double Dragon apparently uses similar (but weaker) specs to the Namco System 1 (even having a same CPU), which gave us games like Splatterhouse, which had huge sprites that can fill up the screen at times. Double Dragon is just a half assed effort that just somehow got popular in the end.

[@magicvampirelver1321]

Awesome battle of the ports...nice vid Retro Core' I♡beat em ups especially these ones N' the SORs 😁🎮🕹

[@jsttv]

I still own Final Fight CD, and it’s one of my top games along w/Streets of Rage 2, and TMNT: Turtles in Time.

[@restlessone1052]

The Sharp X68000 looks basically arcade perfect, however there are fewer thugs on screen at once compared to the arcade. The CPS-1 sprite hardware is very similar to X68000's "Cynthia" sprite controller chip, but CPS-1 can handle 256 16x16 pixel sprites simultaneously, while the X68000 can only handle 128.

[@RetroCore]

The X68000 is also missing the flashing lights in the storage room on Stage 1. The Mega CD Version features those.

[@autodidacticprofessor869]

Nothing beats the CPS-1.

[@KenMasters.]

Except the GBA version. Even though half of the sounds are weak in that port.

[@youtubesuresuckscock]

@@KenMasters. The GBA version is a joke. Its resolution was so low it's like looking at the game through a periscope.

[@The90sGamingGuy]

Wow very thorough port video good job on the video. First time i ever played this game was on Capcom Collection Volume 1 for Play Station 2. I now have the game on Switch on a digital Capcom Beat 'Em Up collection.

[@googleboughtmee]

Epic episode. Whets my appetite for the MiSTer CPS-1 beta being released today

[@spongeknock7387]

just about to post this!

[@DJackson747]

This vid makes me REALLY want to play the Final Fight 30th anniversary hack.

[@AceTrainerX3]

14:50 I'm sorry, WHAT!?

[@RetroCore]

I think it sounds horrible. Capcom have never been one for good arcade sound.

[@arioca]

@@RetroCore I disagree. Magic Sword, King of Dragons, Knights of the Round and U.N. Squadron, to name a few have some great soundtracks.

[@ravagingwolverine]

@@arioca I've always found Capcom to be pretty spotty with their arcade FM sound. They did some good music for sure, and they had some games that sounded very harsh. They were not as consistent as some of their competitors. Their stuff got better when they switched to PCM sound.

[@beingsshepherd]

@@arioca SFII. I gather that the Guile stage's music is regarded a classic.

[@arioca]

@@beingsshepherd Great point! Not only Street Fighter II, but older arcade classics like: 1943, Gun.Smoke, Legendary Wings, Section-Z, Trojan, Ghouls 'n Ghosts, Strider and Mercs. Also later arcade games like Marvel Super Heroes, X-Men vs. Street Fighter and Marvel vs. Capcom all have some amazing soundtracks. The more I think about it, more Capcom arcade games with great tunes come to mind.

[@Charlie-Cat.]

The most censored video game of all time. But a great game nonetheless Mark. Best port, the Sega CD version of Final Fight. That custom soundtrack is so memorable, that I purchase the CD collection from a Japanese seller from Japan. Still play it in my house and car. 8^) Anthony..

[@sperrin]

Not even close to being the most censored game of all time.

[@gaeljehnno]

i bought for dirt cheap the japanese mega cd version, never regreted it.

[@RetroCore]

Nice buy! 👍

[@rennmaxbeta]

I played the arcade version so much back in 1990, love this brawler. They shouldn't have even attempted to port it to the ZX Spectrum...

[@heilong79]

I like the Mega CD the best as the music is much improved however I was impressed with the GBA version back in the day.

[@wilkiedriver]

Streets of Fire was the inspiration!? Holy shit I love that movie, and it makes perfect sense!

[@MaidenHell1977]

Well that was excellent. Final Fight has always been near and dear to my heart and a rather sensitive issue haha I never played or had seen the arcade version of the game so the SNES was my very first experience with it and it was a jaw dropping experience for someone like me. As years went by I learned how scaled back it actually was. In the mid 2000s I acquired a model 2 Sega Genesis+SCD and a little while later I scored a CIB North American version of FFCD. It has with out a doubt, the BEST sounding music of ANY VERSION. Played through a 5 channel stereo sound system with a subwoofer is stunning to hear. My hope is that someone or even Capcom themselves would make a new and proper port of the original SNES/SFC game utilizing an enhancement chip for better speed and fluid animation and of course cooperative play.

[@RetroCore]

There is a hacked version of the SNES game now being worked on that offers 2 players but it's still the same cut back version but now with added slowdown and sprite flicker.

[@kristijannemethmotorolavid2837]

An Famicom or NES Known in the West or in USA is known as Mighty Final Fight is to Collect EXP Points i guess was a Enhanced version

[@yandman26]

That ST segment almost caused me to smash my phone up

[@msk33]

Nice vidéo. X68000 is the best version for me but it is not arcade perfect thought, and this should have been mentioned I think. - Less ennemies on the screen - The light does not flickering in the 1st stage (while it does on Mega-CD) - No other train passing by when you are yourself in the train (it is in the mega-cd) - Some sounds effects were removed (no crowd noise against Sodom, no fire noise in stage 4) Etc, etc. It is still better than Mega-cd that is coming close second since it gives the closest arcade feeling in my opinion...

[@arioca]

Correct, the X68000 port is really impressive but it isn't arcade perfect. I'm glad you pointed all the differences out. Regarding the X360 / PS3 ports, they are by far the most arcade accurate ones and those "achievement" pop-ups that were mentioned only show up once each time you obtain them. Once you complete all these challenges, they go away for good so they're no longer visible.

[@RetroCore]

Yeah, but what if you don't obtain them? They are always showing. They should have an option to switch them off alltogether.

[@arioca]

@@RetroCore I agree the option should be there, but if you don't obtain them they won't show up.

[@corujaobservadoragreenowl5450]

Aos 16:00 min matamos a saudade da melhor e maior homenagem a franquia, versão em Mega CD, recheada de cuts scenes, músicas e lindos gráficos.

[@firisrozley5768]

The first time I played this game was via a CPS1 DOS-based emulator named CALLUS on PC around 20 years ago. Final Fight & Street of Rage are definitely my fav. 2D beat'em up games. Final Fight CD (Japanese version) on Mega CD is still the best version to play.

[@RetroCore]

Oh wow, Callus. Now that brings back memories.

[@rennmaxbeta]

I had completely forgotten about Callus, wow

[@youtubesuresuckscock]

Yeah actually it's not. You can play the vastly superior arcade version in MAME with Sega CD music. No point in the Sega CD version in 2020.

[@videogameobsession]

I really liked the SNES port. The graphics looked great thanks to the large color palette. I didn't care too much about the lack of 2 player mode since my brother didn't care about beat em ups, so I always played those single player. The censorship amused me. The "Oh my car" is still one of my favorite game samples. I'm not sure I get the console port battle between the Sega CD (Mega CD) & SNES (SFC) though. Sure the Sega CD port had 2 player, and Redbook audio, but you had to take a few things into consideration: 1. It required a Genesis AND a $400 Sega CD. 2. You had to wait another 2 years after the SNES Final Fight release. 3. The colors are extremely dithered and garish looking when compared to the SNES color palette. Of course there would be even better options later on, such as the Capcom collections. Final Fight Double Impact on the PS3 is one of my favorite ways to play it now. With it's remixed OST option, drop in/drop out online co-op, and more.

[@Lightblue2222]

I was happy to find out the Guy snes version has tweeked gameplay. Better than the 1st Snes release. I know it was only at Blockbuster, but still.. and today it's easy to snag the rom.

[@ryzmaker11]

you obviously try to downplay the mega-CD version but you forget many points: 1° the SNES hardware and its games were more expensive than mega drive 2° the mega-CD port has 2 player co-op and redbook audio, yes, BUT also all the three selectable characters + all the stages + better gameplay + many better visual details + higher resolution + fullscreen (SNES has black borders) + exclusive content... I mean, LOL, it's just much better ^^ as for the colors, they are perfectly fine for a 4th gen video game, especially since these systems are meant to be displayed on CRT screen or on emulator with scanline filter. this just goes to show that sega chosen more wisely their priorities (CPU; resolution; etc.). and then there's also a color hack for those who want... And SNES colors have their downfall as well. The sprites look too pink for instance and some other assets look darker than the arcade.

[@ryzmaker11]

one thing I agree though is the release date. final fight CD should have been released earlier indeed, preferrably as a launch title for the mega-CD in 1991 or, at least, released the following year in 1992 and not 1993

[@videogameobsession]

​@@ryzmaker11 I didn't forget anything. 1. The Genesis was $180 (included 1 controller and Altered Beast) SNES was $199 (included 2 controllers, and Super Mario World). So for $19 more you were getting another controller and a much better launch game. 2. There is no question that the SNES graphics look MUCH better than that of the Sega CD port. Even the biggest Sega fan has to admit that. If your SNES sprites look too pink I would suggest outputting a clean RGB signal using a quality cable. They should look perfect. Use 240p Test Suite's SMPTE color bars to verify. I don't want to come across as hating the Genesis. I LOVE that system. I bought it on launch day, and still own my original system (in box) from August 1989. I still love it, and while I didn't buy the Sega CD at launch, I bought a model 1 a few years later, as well as most of the good games. I even bought 2 copies of Final Fight CD, one of them I kept factory sealed. It's a good game. I just hate to see people unfairly compare it with the SNES. And of course the SNES was capable of 2 player co-op as demonstrated with Final Fight 2 and 3. It just took Capcom some time to optimize their SNES developing.

[@videogameobsession]

@HUB GOBLIN Both Capcom and Konomi struggled with the SNES development at first. Look at Super Ghouls N Ghosts.. a fan would later optimize it and remove all of the slowdown, which was VERY prevalent. Capcom would also get better with their SNES programming and add 2 player co-op to both Final Fight 2 and 3. I do really like what Pyron was able to do with his Final Fight CD color optimizations. They look nearly as good as the SNES in some levels!

[@HypnoSwag]

I still play the hell out of Double Impact for the 360, and people are still online playing co-op.

[@RetroCore]

That's cool.

[@aazart8886]

Final Fight Best Graphics Version #1.Arcade #2.Sega CD , X360 & PS3 #3.X68000 #4.Dreamcast #5.GBA #6.Snes

[@leecollins5479]

Still love this game! I had the mega cd version

[@Fortuna1]

A special note: Exists 2 romhacks, one completed and working and other in development The 1st is Final fight 30th anniversary, a incredible version for 3 players on screen, with adjustable difficult, selection of same character and more hard, this is for arcade The other is for snes and adds the 2nd player, this continue in development and looks great

[@pdeaky]

Excellent!

[@ryzmaker11]

Mega-CD and X68000 for the win! The huge difference though is that a Mega-CD cost about $400 back then whereas a X68000 cost $3000 😁 And I'd still favor the Mega-CD version because it has some exclusive content (expanded intro; time attack mode...) and phenomenal CD remixes of the arcade OST!

[@StandingUpForBetter]

Don't forget simultaneous 2 player mode was well on the Mega CD version.

[@ryzmaker11]

@@StandingUpForBetter Yup but the X68000 version has that too!

[@Lightblue2222]

I bet if it were on the regular MegaDrive it would have sounded like the X68000. ;)

[@ryzmaker11]

@@Lightblue2222 It could have yeah :) Actually there are multiplats were I prefer Mega Drive music over X68000 counterparts, as with Granada or Strider for instance.

[@PyronsLair]

X6800 version also get some cuts, like the room with the flicking lights. It's has only present on mcd and arcade, and diverse minor grafics effects

[@SoftBank47]

No wonder game consoles got popular over home micros. You could actually play your favorite arcade games on them and get a reasonable facsimile.

[@RetroCore]

That's the main reason why I was never a home computer games. The games from the Arcade (and let's face it, that's what we wanted to play) we're always better on console.

[@AmigaOmega]

@@RetroCore You did have to pay 40-50 quid for the privilege though!! How many cart games did you actually have! Back then on my pound a week pocket money, my 11 year old self was lucky to be able to buy a new game each week for my Spectrum/C64 with an average price of £3.99. I didn't often buy the full price games (11.99-14.99 average) but when I did it was for the awesome releases from the likes of Thalamus or System3. I was able to just enjoy those arcade ports for what they were having not been able to play 99% of them at arcades so never seeing the source material.

[@alritedave]

With US Gold handling so many arcade ports the poor Amiga never really stood a chance lol.

[@amerigocosta7452]

Mark, you're nailing it with these HD remakes! I had never heard of Streets of Fire, but always thought this game had a vibe similar to the urban fight scenes of films like The Warriors (1979) or Carpenter's Escape from NY (1981). About the rental only release of Final Fight Guy in the US, I wonder how many copies were never returned or swapped with a regular copy of Final Fight! There was a homebrew work in progress for an improved Amiga AGA version of the game a few years ago, but sadly the author passed away. It looked promising and using nothing from the awful official release. Again, I had no idea about the 360/PS3 version. As far as I understand it's digital only. Better buying it now before it vanishes.

[@arioca]

If you have the Xbox 360, you can buy it physically. Final Fight is included on Capcom Digital Collection.

[@amerigocosta7452]

@@arioca Thanks! I think they got something wrong about the naming of this compilation..I'd think it was a downloadable collection or something, based on the name.

[@arioca]

@@amerigocosta7452 It's confusing because Final Fight was included in that Xbox 360 compilation on disc containing previously released Capcom digital games and it was named Final Fight: Double Impact because Magic Sword was also included. Coincidently I just checked this game is currently on sale on PSN (US Store) for only $1.99

[@metalcoola]

11:55 - So true, in 2018, we had fan conversion of Mighty Final Fight, with is fantastic, and even back in 1991, devs like The Sales Curve showed, you can make fantastic ports on 8 bit computers, if you are competent. Makes me wonder, why Richard Aplin was given this task, if he clearly hated arcade original, it is shame, as he did lots of great arcade conversions for Amstrad.

[@anonymoususind]

The Sega CD US release cut a lot of the content from the Japan version such as reduce animation in the Intro and the ending that missing one of the sequence

[@RetroCore]

Yeah, it's silly that they did that. Still, better than the US SNES version.

[@joefell5311]

Love the intro.

[@DanielMonteiroNit]

20:45 (former J2ME game developer here) Japan had a much better Java profile on their carriers, allowing devlopers to aim at higher profiles. Given how conservative was the base profile (that you would need to adhere to and optionally, thru reflection, expand upon), this looks quite decent.

[@RetroCore]

That explains why western Java phone games were very primitive while Japans looked like mini 16bit console games.

[@JolliAllGenGamer]

That's a lot of ports of 1 Game!

[@FromWitchSide]

Didn't think about it before, but the sounds of the Amiga port sound a bit like a Warzone.

[@georgelea4297]

Love the Mega CD version

[@elitegodz]

Great video! This is classic masterpiece. You should have included Final Fight LNS Ultimate - the best openbor remake. Has 69 characters available including the Street Fighter chars!

[@RetroCore]

Yeah, I have that one but felt it was a little too beyond to point of this video so I went with something a little closer to the original.

[@leonard316]

alright!!! Let's do this!!

[@KillThad]

Richard Aplin is certainly a strange figure. Seems like a fun bloke, though.

[@philmuller-geib3361]

The MEGA CD version played on a CRT TV is close to the arcade version

[@strafer8764]

Very stylish game but it’s a repetitive button masher. The time attack in the sega cd version was a lot of fun. So many better beat em ups gameplay wise. It FF was one of the best in in art style. Great music and sound effects too.

[@HairDom]

Ah Mr Aplin... although his Double Dragon 2 port was actually pretty good.

[@RetroCore]

I guess he liked that game.

[@dantecajigas22]

The Mega CD version is the best port...period!!

[@enriquepinero707]

I also noticed the graphical differences of the Double Impact release and felt they were even better than arcade. A.I was also different and more challenging. Gameplay also felt more responsive and smooth. Although Sega CD is my favorite for music only, as the gameplay had an input cap and did not allow you to press attack as rapidly as the arcade game. I know we got the best em up bundle; but if they released Final Fight Double Impact and kept everything intact from it's initial release; I would buy it again on the Switch! Would love if they went the extra mile and added the Sega CD soundtrack as well.

[@youtubesuresuckscock]

This is not true. The graphics were not improved in the Double Impact release. The AI wasn't changed at all, either. Don't spread misinformation.

[@qwwerty77uioop11]

I actually thought the Amiga version was pretty good, especially if you play it with the Powerplay cruiser joystick.

[@BAZFANSHOTHITSClassicTunes]

For straight up Final fight action, get the MAME version. Followed by the 360.

[@youtubesuresuckscock]

@D core Actually no, it isn't. It's better in MAME. Less input lag and more music options (and the ability to play the 3 player version).

[@section23]

Timeless classic

[@reagandow850]

NICE!!

[@nyckobedoya]

Shouldve mentioned a whole lot more about the gba version

[@Leviatan23]

All the enemies names (or most of them) are heavy metal musicians....

[@talhajaved4526]

its funny how final fight was a big exclusive for super nintendo and was a big selling for the point for the console yet a few years later it was released on almost everything in the world including nintendo's biggest competitor sega and it ended up being the best port of the game also there is another java version of the game for the "bigger screen sizes" and it's actually a lot better with improved graphics kinda resembling the original arcade version but that's just about it the gameplay and the music quality is the same and the game actually is still available to download on many sites last time i played it was probadly back in 2016 capcom released a lot of beat em up's for java phones there was final fight there was warriors of fate and there was also captain commando for the chinese mobile phones and there was also a non official probadly fan made port of cadilacs vs dinosaurs which i have actually made a video about on my channel

[@Kumimono]

Andore, the totally original character, do not steal, always amuses me. Kinda curious, what the censorship things were, the opening scene is quite obvious, but Poison etc? Shall google. (Kinda strange that she is obviously held at an undisclosed location a the start, then shows up being carried away as the action starts...) Shall also check KZbin for the Roland version of X68000 music. Love that Roland sound...

[@RetroCore]

Basically the western versions on Nintendo removed the women (poison and Roxy) because you can't beat up women. They also changed the skin tone because its OK to beat up lighter coulred guys over darker ones. How bloody stupid.

[@YinxZork]

Just for the fun of it, you should have add mighty final fight as bonus

[@RetroCore]

Thought about it but in the end didn't bother.

[@YinxZork]

Retro Core no biggie, great review by the way.

[@TheStuffMade]

It's a shame many of the home computer ports are so bad, but of course this was back when programmers were bragging about how they ported a game in just weeks. The publishers would likely have made a lot more money if they'd invested enough time and money in a proper port resulting in fun and playable game.

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

That x6800 machine really is something special for its time...i mean it even does damn close jobs of sprite scalers!

[@RetroCore]

It cost a fortune but at least it deliverd.

[@GleysonSaint]

Mega CD fantastic music

[@ianvallender7892]

What happened to the Capcom classics collection vol. 1 and remixed ports for the ps2 and psp? I think you've missed them!

[@KenMasters.]

The PSP versions are where it's at.

[@RetroCore]

All emulated Arcade roms.

[@RedRanger2001]

Back then, there was no perfect port for Final Fight, unless you either go to the arcade, or live in Japan and have Sharp X68000. These days, you can either get the Capcom Classics Collection on PS2 or Xbox, or get the Capcom Beat 'em Up Collection on the PS4, Xbox One, or the Nintendo Switch... (sigh) Sega should've ported this game for the Sega 16-bit back in 1990...

[@youtubesuresuckscock]

The X68000 version has a lot of problems. No lighting effects in the slum basement stage, fewer enemies on the screen at once, and more slowdown. The arcade version was significantly better.

[@Nolasco.]

My hat off to you Mark that had to play those awful conversion for the sake of us. Final fight is a great game and you should think a respectable game developer should never release crap just for the sake of a quick buck. Thank for a great video Mark 😊👍

[@RetroCore]

Playing those computer versions was pure misery. They are that slow 30 minutes would only get you to the subway area.

[@DenkyManner]

I'm a big fan of the GBA game. I know Capcom were very lazy basing it so heavily on the SNES assets, not reintroducing phone boxes or the signs in stage 3 but the gameplay is fantastic. So fast and responsive it's my favourite version to actually play though it doesn't look anywhere near as good as the arcade. It's also fun to see how different the difficulty modes are, feels like they really tuned each of them with new enemy mixes. I've gotten used to the music by this point and like the new arrangements.

[@KenMasters.]

Super Street Fighter II X Revival is also like the SNES version of Super SFII. But 10 times better.

[@mgtowlite7414]

Only 3 credits available for the SEGA Mega CD soured it for me. I couldn't play Co-Op with a friend who was new to the game without them (and me!) dying off long before the ending. The Arcade _and_ the GBA remain the best versions.

[@RetroCore]

I'm sure you can increase the amount of credits. Or maybe it's 3 credits per character? If so I would have swapped controllers and continued as player 2 :)

[@mgtowlite7414]

@@RetroCore The European & US versions only have 3 credits whether it is 1 or 2 players. Tough game. I remember searching everywhere for some kind of cheat code as a teen, no such luck. I have heard that the Japanese release has 4 credits as well as the uncensored female baddies.

[@RetroCore]

Yep, the Japanese version is fully uncensored for sure. That's the one I have.

[@batlin]

Wow, I had the Atari version and didn't remember the scrolling being so bad, or that you could get indefinitely stunlocked like at 8:10. The Mega CD version looks and sounds great tho!

[@RetroCore]

Sadly a lot of what we liked back then turns out to be awful.

[@GregzVR]

I loved the Mega-CD version! Final Fight is the side scrolling Beat 'em-up that I measure all others too. It used to be Double Dragon, in the arcades, before this. There's a cool VR game, that takes inspiration from Final Fight and Streets of Rage. Apologies for the shameless link plug: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3m0iKSmiJx5hKc

[@RetroCore]

That's pretty cool. Not sure how it would play but I do like it. Kind of reminds me of the Dream,cast Streets of Rage 4 demo.

[@Neoblades]

Thanos dude! I love this!!!! 😭🥰

[@ThatWhiskeylovinAsianGuy]

the music from the atari st version sounds like the loop you hear from cheetamen...