Battlefield 2042 3.2 Class Update ► The Good, The Bad, & The Broken

[@p00ner]

Seeing those people repair your tank in game makes it feel like BF of old. Teamwork.

[@Anfield_the_place_to_be]

I REAlly liked the update. Just hoping for many new maps, both old and new, and Dice could pull of a historic turnaround!! Offcourse they should not had to do it in the first place, but i thought my money was lost for good.

[@mr.r1178]

In the next year if they ACTUALLY try to save this game I think they could do it, won't ever be the best battlefield but could be a good on at least

[@Anfield_the_place_to_be]

@@mr.r1178 yea, i really can't understand how they (EA mostly) thought it would be beneficial to release it like it was! Bf5 launch was a disaster, and 2042 even way worse.. The sad thing is they probably will do it again on their next game

[@johnwstruhar]

Battlefront 2 has entered the chat....

[@thejoker2846]

I got it for $10 best money I've ever spent

[@Anfield_the_place_to_be]

@@johnwstruhar LOL, yea dice have a sad history when it comes to launches! And i am one of the idiots who still buy on launch just out of curiosity🤣

[@TheApokolypze]

Casper is legit one of my favorite specialists since 3.2. the mindgames and semi-stealth gameplay you can do with his passive is fun, and his drone EMP can be an absolute menace to land vehicles trying to push a point.

[@nairbsggirb1718]

As someone with possibly the worst aiming and fast twitch button pushing imaginable, I am strictly support/medic/recon. I've been able to suddenly score in the top 10, often top 1 overall (either team) or 3-5 (despite usually having a questionable K/D ratio), by just dedicating myself to the class function, especially in Breakthrough and Rush. It has felt so rewarding. I could never have dreamed of topping the leaderboard or even sniffing it, and now do it regularly if I fully embrace whatever the class/specialist/perk/ability is. How it should be. Having a freaking blast. 💥

[@mdfholyhelmet]

I think the biggest plus for me which you didnt touch upon is the fact that I don't feel like every enemy can see me all the time with less players having access to proxy scanners and less people wanting to use the sniper class.

[@R-SXX]

True, it doesnt feel like you are a one man Army, rather beeing Part of a Team

[@GhostGamingg]

Yeah that's a really nice change as well, although I don't think Recon's having that proficiency is going to stop people sniping much. I would personally rather run a Falck with a sniper than most of the recon specialists :P.

[@laggmonstret]

Really? I feel the exakt oposit with more and more unlocking the thermal scopes you’re seen all the time😂

[@mdfholyhelmet]

@@laggmonstret yeah but your not constantly shown on the minimap because of proxy nades. Feels like you can flank easier. Thermal scopes will become the new pain in the butt for a while, but still it's better

[@ibrahimsarpani8882]

Engineer the best and the thermal scope is amazing

[@elsevillaart]

Im fine with the changes, still i will love to see a Tank vs Tank adding the weak point at its back....but only that tanks could do this. So flanking will also be part of strategy.

[@TheoriginalBMT]

I would like it as an engineer to reward sneaking behind a tank with the M5

[@djnorth2020]

I miss tanks having different weak spots. Tracks for movement, turret for turning it, front strongest back weakest...

[@PacoBataReyes]

Great video Ghost. Controller player here - resetting my "on foot" bindings to default fixed the weapon swap/plus menu bug for me. Then I was able to change my bindings back to what I preferred and the bug didn't return.

[@TheoriginalBMT]

I'm gonna try that

[@cinnamoncigarettes]

Can u only do that on PC or something I can't do it

[@PacoBataReyes]

@@cinnamoncigarettes I am on PC, so I'm not sure if it works on console as well. But I had the bug all week until I tried resetting to default.

[@cinnamoncigarettes]

@Paco Sanchez I'm on Xbox playing right now, I was able to switch back to using LB to bring up the weapon attachment menu but I still have to get used to a few different things. When I use default settings it gives me the new settings I just want the old ones back

[@PacoBataReyes]

@@cinnamoncigarettes Right, I had to switch to the default settings. Then after I had to manually recreate all of the custom bindings I had before. After I did that, the bug was gone.

[@MrMoli192]

The javelins break lock in this game against flares unlike BF4. Also vehicle smokes both thermal and normal, player thrown smokes and aircraft flares get rid of a dart that is on them or on terrain nearby like it does in BC2

[@JacobakaJb]

Facts... I been spreading this info around like wildfire. Player recreated smoke clouds are OP against tracer everything 😄👏🏽

[@NandigamS]

Dude in BF4 Javs break lock when air vehicles flare or ECM

[@MrMoli192]

@@NandigamS they really dont. Source: im a stealth jet tryhard with ecm. Soflam/tank commander locks with javelin/tank guided missiles are a death sentence to aircraft. The problem is that the missile keeps tracking and then flips around behind the jet and sometimes explodes without doing damage but it usually hits anyway

[@charble6756]

The javelin desperately needs a buff (bear with me). In its normal fire, any tree or small structure completely blocks the lock, even if the vehicle is visible. It is certainly very good but I'd suggest they make tracer/soflam require line of sight BUT make trees and small structures block vehicles less often

[@alexdasliebe5391]

Charble, I enjoyed your “(bear with me)” ✌🏼🤣👍🏼 … I get your point and have encountered that myself

[@crynne66]

New breakthrough map is a massive improvement.

[@nairbsggirb1718]

It went from arguably the worst map to one of, if not THE best. Really impressive.

[@BillboardCowboy]

Here’s an idea. Dice should take a note from battlefront 2 and make the specialists similar to the different heroes and classes you could play in that game through in game actions. So basically, all players would start out as default factions (US vs Russia) but as the game progresses, players earn in game “battle points” as they perform in game actions (kills, revives, vehicles destroyed, obj’s captured) and when the player accrues enough points, they can then spawn in as a specialist of their choosing (they could keep the specialist abilities and all as they are well). This would make playing as a specialist something a player has to EARN and also makes the abilities and utility that a specialist can provide in battle MUCH more important and impactful. Obviously this idea is just that an idea, but if something like this was implemented, I believe it would make the entire community happen because playing as a specialist and how FREQUENTLY you get to play as a specialist becomes a matter of skill and team based actions performed rather than an all out free for all where an individual “may” use their specialist to its fullest abilities. For instance, in the new update, if you play as Angel on the breakthrough mode and ONLY prioritize going for revives, you can easily TOP SCORE for the entire lobby with 50+ revives every single game. Having this in the game right now could be considered broken, because if MULTIPLE people did this at a time, instead of just one or two, then you could essentially never lose the first obj (which I personally have done multiple times). Now, with this new “battle points system” added into the game, it ensure that medics are able to continue to revive teammates without it completely busting the game. But when a player spends enough battle points, all of a sudden here comes this dude named Angel who can Rez every dead body he sees and can completely change the tide of a match. Just some food for thought, it anybody has anything they wanna add or discuss about this idea feel free.

[@christopheryanez]

What you said is exactly what they should’ve done for the class update. They also could’ve taken some inspiration from BF1 since it had similar aspects with using regular class soldiers and “elite kits” such as the Tank Hunter, Flame Trooper, Sentry, Trench Raider, and Infiltrator. BF2042’s specialists could act as BF2042’s version of “elite kits” that you can find across the Battlefield, or as you mentioned, give us the ability to spawn as a specialist if we gain enough requisition or score. I also think there should be at least 4 factions: US, Russia, China, and No-Pats. Every specialist that’s currently available should be affiliated with the No-Pats. US, Russia, and China should also have their own unique models for their specialists. Every specialist for each faction would function the same way but there would no longer be clones running around the battlefield since each faction would have their own unique look. The US and Russian factions don’t even feel like US or Russian factions due to specialists. It sucks because they already have cool looking and unique class models for US and Russia, but they are only used for AI bots.

[@erik8999]

I found that I could never find ammo crates when running around, so not everyone is doing their job. Update is better but not a game changer.

[@shortstuff780]

my biggest issue with Liz is her missles are horrible to use on console. still. like jesus yesterday i was using her, and lined up a perfect shot on a helo, 2 ft away from it, about to hit it and the helo just zigs zags and misses, i reline with my 2nd turn aruond 30% battery and it hovers past my radius. used my 2nd shot, same thing. in a full 30 min game, using liz, i think i killed 1 vehicle, a tank.

[@luigimrlgaming9484]

Well they do get a missile warning but I have found it much easier to hit helicopters with the Lis missile on console using a controller.

[@TheoriginalBMT]

I had two barely misses on heli's, but got lucky and planted one down on an unsuspecting player. The 2nd miss as I circled around, I tagged someone parachuting. I almost felt bad with that one haha. But I agree. It's shit aiming with Lis rockets on aircraft. You are only gonna hit newbies flying.

[@shortstuff780]

@@TheoriginalBMT yep, basically. Like honestly I get more kills usually Liz killing infinity or tanks. I think since she's been released on console I've only killed 3 helos. It's impossible to kill planes. But then again I've never been killed by a plane on 2042 so I don't care. Literally planes are easily the worst vehicle in 2042 lol

[@tellis9844]

The tracer dart javelin combo has been blown out of proportion. You take chip damage when the dart hits the vehicle which lets you know its on the vehicle. Also when you flare/smoke it destroys the tracer dart and breaks the lock.

[@acematthew01]

i was trying this against bots and they managed to shake off the lock with the same method. Flare/smoke.

[@averageghost617]

Taking 1 damage from a tracer dart is barley noticeable (and it doesn't tell you from where you get hit) and the lock on warning/missle incoming is bugged and doesn't show up with javelins.

[@rosaria8384]

New Breakaway map is just so perfect. If only the other maps were reworked like that (especially Kaleidoscope and Hourglass).

[@owengordon4521]

I’m sure once hourglass gets reworked it will be alot better

[@juseffie6432]

@@owengordon4521didn’t age well

[@darp4602]

Technically, a suppressor, added to the end of a barrel, would extend the barrel therefore extending the amount of time that the projectile is under the influence of the explosive charge, and making the projectile faster...

[@Toyohisa_R]

yeah youre right, but video game bs. thats why i never run supps in battlefield, they just make the guns more shit.

[@GremlinSciences]

That is correct and has been proven. In actuality you can expect a ~10% increase in muzzle velocity when you attach a suppressor. You can also expect a fair bit of over-gassing on gas piston designs that would increase felt recoil and alter the fire rate if you don't adjust the gas block or use under-loaded ammunition.

[@Shyvorix]

Irl suppressors assist in every way except maybe recoil reduction but it'd make them op in most games, unless they were given durability limitation.

[@LD-sx9pr]

Honestly that javelin issue seems to already have a counter, APS and flares should deal with them anyways Lissiles maybe need to be only refillable by ammo box or at least only 1 can refill automatically and to carry more in reserve you need an ammo box

[@JacobakaJb]

Smoke hand and gadget grenades smoke also removes tracer no matter where it's at or on. Plus you can see that glowing red light easily on mostly anything.

[@CaleCoast]

Too many people sleep on Irish sentinel trophy system!

[@JacobakaJb]

@That Coast Shiiii.. I don't. That's my fav specialize other then rio and boris (Depend on situation). And liz too if need be. Everytime I stop I place a anti explosive sentinel down, along with hand smoke grenades you are lowkey OP 🤣

[@CaleCoast]

@Jacob H that's my load out, with the AC-42. I use the MAV and park it overlooking/above contested objectives, place my trophy systems and get back in the driver's seat. Squad mates use my gunner seats and we can easily change the momentum of that objective. Not from all the kills, but because everyone focuses on destroying us and wastes all their rockets as they go POOF in front of us lol Just hope a blueberry doesn't spawn in when I leave the driver's seat and inevitably drives into the chaos where we can't defend and gets everyone killed in seconds. That is enraging.

[@TheoriginalBMT]

Just weird how nobody tested controller mapping and thought "this is ok". Been trying out assault and the one that irks me is that when you go to throw a grenade but have damage. It will use the medpen first, if you have one.

[@orclord5719]

Capser is very comfy. I've figured how to use drone best and get 100+ kill ASSISTS. Not just sots, but spots that get killed.

[@togawac]

They could nerf the range of the thermal scopes. Though it'd be annoying to see someone, then be blind when you try to scope in.

[@jonny-b4954]

0:01 Dude, I found that spot up on those steel I beams too. I was wreckin HAVOK up there. Literally not a single enemy would look up despite it taking 2-3 shots to kill them. Great spot. Yeah, lock ons and spotting simply DOES NOT get used by apparently anyone. Fuckin no one spots, not like I do at least, feel like people don't pay any attention to spotting or marking. Let alone lock ons for vehicles. People definitely make use of like BF4 lock ons. Used to be one of my favorite things.

[@MasterMayhem78]

To fix the attachment button issue on the controller you have to go into custom controller settings and reset it to default, then change everything back. It sucks but it fixed the problem.

[@ryanfreeborn4252]

The small thermal site, it's pretty awesome.

[@willfullyinformed]

Everything you said is great, I agree. In regards to TTK, I'm not a huge fan of it in 2042, BF4 was better. The TTK when you're shooting enemies is great, but when you're shot it is instant-death no matter the gun, and nearly no matter the circumstance majority of the time (zero reaction time). In the past we would blame netcode and/or server tick rate, but now it's like this in nearly every FPS I play. I feel like the graphics/data are way ahead of current networking? or possibly in most cases the tick rates are just far too low to update the data rate fast enough. Would like to see this changed, it just doesn't feel right killing at a normal rate but dying instantly like CoD ttk.

[@DestinyOfZero]

honestly the javelin seems fine to me, just needs more lock on time if it doesnt have LoS. Landing a dart on a moving vehicle should be rewarded, if u got close enough to have a dart easily landed on you then thats your fault at that point.

[@GhostGamingg]

Yeah you're maybe not wrong with air vehicles, feel sorry for the tankers though, those darts have little to no drop and pretty fast velocity and tanks are still that slow that they're not very difficult to hit. Like I said though I haven't been the victim of many tracer dart javs or anything like that, but it's just an area of the game that could be easily cheesed.

[@jerben9462]

@@GhostGamingg wait, what's the difference between the tracer dart vs just a soflam or Rao if they're close?

[@DestinyOfZero]

@@GhostGamingg yeah tracers should definetly have more drop but tankers have always been weak but now that we have more engis they seem even more weak since more people use c5 now. Classes kind of made more engis and supports show up which threw alot of things out of balance thanks to 2042 going from majority assaults to what seems to be a lot less assaults

[@mcombuster]

I noticed that on breakaway there are a bunch of spots on the map where your player seems to to trip or stumble and you can avoid it by not stepping in those places but they are scattered everywhere. You can't shoot or aim or anything when it happens its like you trip over something

[@RoyleVegeta]

Well tbh a suppressor extend the barrel witch in turn add more rifling witch give the bullet more of a spin witch can add about more strength and distance in IRL, but if you're talking in Game land a "silencer" makes the gun undetectable they normally come with a rage and DMG decreases, it be cool if the actual add suppressor an give them different stats, like a DMG boost but undecidable from say 200ft plus, leaving it loud for close range.

[@mataeria]

I’m actually glad they have limited the med pen to a single use, too many times when i’m up against an assault enemy they can just run for cover for a second and come back to take me out with my low health from the first encounter (AND they have an armor plate most of the time). Same goes for the drum mags, too many players just spamming bullets outta those, i think the ADS nerf was a good one!

[@Miiifywayyy]

stop whining bout getting shot down. vehicles are OP af, and has allways been in bf games.

[@luigimrlgaming9484]

I wish that were true.

[@Miiifywayyy]

@@luigimrlgaming9484 dont know how long you been playing, this series. I have been playing, all bf games since, bf2. And I can tell you. Its true. So wishes dont bring you much, in this matter.

[@33up24]

I gotta admit, i don't agree with you on many things. The tracer dart javelin combo "issue" you talked about can also apply to pretty much any vehicle on the game, specially choppers. On their own, not a biggie, but if you have friends on your chopper that can repair your vehicle on demand then it's become broken however I don't see you complain about it? Furthermore more there's really no counter to air vehicles from an infantry perspective. Stingers are useless, hacking is useless too, Liz is not a counter since avoiding her missiles is extremely easy and even for nightbirds is not always a one shot kill. The only counter to choppers are other choppers but since half of the time said chopper is being used by some dude who doesn't even know how to fly, good luck with that. Using darts on the other hand actually requires skill, not to mention they are easily countered by just using smoke. If anything, choppers are still too powerful. And if my memory serves me well, javs have always lock onto painted targets even without line of sight so It is definitely not a bug.

[@PoloDavey]

I really want to get into air gameplay. I've never been a pilot in any games and very rarely even a tank guy or whatever pretty much stuck with foot soldier for all the years and def wanna branch out a bit

[@uhnetwork7506]

Tank is super fun give it a shot

[@karp14ek]

i don't know if that will help other controller players with the plus menu bug, as a controller player i just set my control settings to default and it now works perfectly fine!!!

[@van2koda]

This game even more broken after this update Been playing for couple hours but never win a single match because all the teammates too stupid to play as a team There’s no fun when you keep losing No one play as engineer to deal with tanks Even worse on the asian servers always packed with cheaters and dice or EA doesn’t give a shit about it

[@raikozy35]

Honestly I'm going to be very disappointed if they stop the season / update pass season 5. I feel like like the game just gets really2 good and then we only have 2 seasons left. If they will extend the game to season 8, I think the game will be remembered as a pretty decent BF game in years to come.

[@powergaming511]

I do think they will do a season 6 depending on how popular season 4 and 5 will be

[@rosaria8384]

True. This game needs up to 8-12 seasons before it sunsets.

[@DaFullo]

Well, if they really did wrap up at season 5 then they MUST at least update the portal, they keep adding weapons and gadgets but never a new map. There's so much potential to remaster the old maps and it able to keeps the player base alive with it.

[@j1rj1r]

I play on Xbox. I haven't had an issue with weapons switching and the plus system. Although I have had issues in menus when using the d-pad. Pressing up on the d-pad with the new default settings is the class specific gadget. It's particularly annoying when I try to use the airdrop menu and end up closing it just to bring up defibrillators or even worse, accidentally use my med pen. Side note the plus system being controlled by the d-pad now is a bit annoying. Cant move and change attachments but you can remap the controles. Personally I would suggest remapping it to your bumpers and triggers.

[@TheoriginalBMT]

I play on Xbox too. But when I go to the controller tuning section. It doesn't give an option to map buttons. Very frustrating

[@j1rj1r]

@@TheoriginalBMT In the game menus, go to your settings under controller> controller schemes> edit controller mappings

[@Zackarco]

I love the update but I'm in the boat that the Javelin needs a nerf to it's range and maybe it's damage too. Considering it's a F&F maybe to justify it being so strong you need to keep your lock on the target for the Javelin to land or have a tracer dart and/or soflam painting it. Even if people disagree on the damage nerf, the range 1000% needs to be toned down. It's range is silly when you're the Mcom defender on Arica Horbor and you can target the attacking teams vehicles in their spawn on the first point.

[@Zackarco]

Also quick note about the maps for 128 Rush. I played on Battle of the Bulge(I think that's the name don't recall) honestly the first Mcom base is good, there's plenty of cover but the second Mcom base is just a massive large field and barely any cover anywhere for the attacking team. It especially sucks when the defending teams spawn is on the high ground in a town overlooking the entire field. The attacking team does get two tanks(MBT, IFV)but when it comes to Javelins and a large open field with no obstructions to block target lock well... it's just the Alimo at that point.

[@luigimrlgaming9484]

Your solution to fixing a fire and forget weapon is removing the forget part? Also one thing you should note is that often people fire javelins in situations where they aren’t in danger.

[@NoMisZx]

The support should not have ammo or medikit, almost nobody has the ammobox. I play a lot as engineer and they need 4 rockets by default and ability to have up to 5 for the M5 Recoilless and a slight reload buff, you can't even destroy a transport heli with only 3 or 4. The reload time of the M5 is so slow, 1 engineer can repair the heli back to full health by the time you need to reload your launcher.

[@GamerzZone0212]

We need a navel strike theme update more ocean maps / Forrest maps

[@Macintosh007]

Yea I'm on console and spent like 30 min remapping buttons to fix things lol. Also because of the new grenade button and extra gadget.

[@englund_]

I feel ground vehicles basically haveno chance to survive. But at the same time the transport helis are near invincible and one person has no chance to even take one down, especially if they have someone repairing. I've had games where I play Lis the entire game and I have every Lissile hit a condor and end the game with zero vehicles destroyed

[@Nivelle_le_Gris]

About what you said with Rao, I felt the same way that people weren't interested in me slapping tracer darts all over the place until I witnessed what is really happening. When I shot the dart, I saw tanks and Condor burst into smithereen merely moments after I shot said darts. Actually, engineers are taking into account the tracer darts I shot, the main issue is that you don't get any assist bonus as of today for helping the engineer, so while you think you don't help the team, you actually are. And of course, if the vehicles are deploying smokes or flares, the dart's effect disappear for a moment. With this update adding a lot of new mechanics, I'm not surprised some of them needs polishing. About the extended mags, as it doesn't affect the sprint-to-fire speed, it should remain as it is. Putting more weight to your gun will cause it to take longer time to ADS, it makes sense. Rolling it back is stupid imo. Meanwhile, we still have Advancys or PKP rushers that are not adressed.

[@GhostGamingg]

You currently don't get an assist for using a tracer dart? Man that definitely needs to be fixed.

[@Nivelle_le_Gris]

@@GhostGamingg yuuup. Nothing, nada. The badge farms itself easily though.

[@TheLizardKing752]

I'm glad they're reverting the ADS changes, but I did support some sort of change to make the lower capacity mags more viable, Especially on some guns like the SFAR. Maybe a slight buff to the small mags and (very) slight nerf to the extended and drum, or tweaking the reload speeds.

[@maxchang1567]

They are reversing the ads changes

[@FLQ309L]

no ammo in the game at all.

[@Albus_Rex]

I'm having the same problem. Trying to main engineer, and I just never have ammo for my launchers. Makes Lis the best engineer because you're a lot more self sufficient. No need for recons to mark vehicles and no need for support to drop you ammo. Really this wouldn't be too big of an issue of DICE just looked to the past and incorporated old ideas. BFV's ammo crates on objective points for instance. Or battlefield 4's being able to decline a revive.

[@turnerflorence9658]

What are you smoking. I feel like this is one of the only battlefields we're ammo is plentiful. I always felt like I was chasing ppl down for ammo in bf1 bf4. Also how could ammo be a problem when any class with ammo crate.

[@vos303]

Solution: give the ammo crate to assault, so the support doesn't have to chose

[@davidmanous]

I just miss squad perk and objective points from squad leader orders like bf3 and bf4 so you and the squad will work more together.

[@MrClarkee79]

Good so far but I'm struggling after nearly 18 months of having the same controls on the Xbox and having to now try and rebind the buttons to what I'm use to as it's messed up at the moment

[@Shaggie_Thrills]

The portal guns need progression of some sort, that and a slight damage buff, they already have a lack of attachments, and if they won't add attachments they can at least give us a reason to use them by making them have skins or something that's unlockable after so many kills.

[@macdaddy0683]

Only issue I had with the update was ads nerf. But there's an exploit where you double tap and it aims pretty much immediately. Effectively counter acts the nerf. But good to know it's being removed

[@djnorth2020]

Don't know how you can tell a tracer dart hit your vehicle, but any smoke and flares remove it immediately. Still, locking work javelin behind cover to it is crazy.

[@op2001]

The plus system button can be mapped to one of the shoulder buttons and that should fix the issue

[@mjs28s]

What about vehicle call ins being different now? Most I am solo conquest and the bottom 2/3rds of vehicles are grayed out and say "not available". I thought maybe the AI got them but it doesn't say "in play" like it used to. About the only thing I can call in are transports, the jeep, hover craft, and the M5C Bolte. No tanks, wild cat, etc. I haven't been able to find anyone on the net even commenting on the change. Happens with different specialists the same. Thoughts? Or did I miss something in the patch notes?

[@timothygrey870]

I play on X box x console. I have to say, I tried and tried for hours on end to get good at hitting helix with Lis’s tvgm. Even the boys could dodge me before. I don’t think the extra range on it is such a bad thing. I still mah not be able to hit a heli (I haven’t played her much since update, more on that in a bit) but I can force it to ease off my team so it can’t just hang about and pulverise them. While not destroying it perhaps it is beneficial to at least force it away. As to the control buttons… I use an elite controller. I had keys set for everything I needed. With the update it completely screwed that up and I spent most of my game time this weekend trying to sort that out. I only use 2 of the paddles on bottom of elite controller as my fingers tend to hit the others and pull out the wrong thing at the wrong time. I set the bindings of the paddles to quickly pull out specialist gadget and c5, m5, aa, etc. Before the update using Y would swap between primary and secondary weapons. This was still the case after the update but now you also have to press and hold y for plus menu and they changed the attachment selection from a,b,y,x to the d pad. Really messed with my muscle memory of those keys. So I reworked bindings, and now I use d pad up for grenade, rb for plus system (hold) and weapon swap. D pad down is my class gadget. It took me a while to work it out but I got there in the end and need only learn 2 new keys. Rb for secondary weapon and d pad up for grenade. So far that has been my only gripe of 3.2, their changing key bindings. I haven’t played all classes a whole bunch, spent a little time in bot mode learning new things. As for vault weapons, I think the M16 and M-4 are fairly decent and the Ak in sun machine gun column. If the Javelin takes out equipment in one hit or with a tracer dart enabling it to follow behind cover, good. So sick of the slow loading m5 not even taking out a humv. I’ve destroyed a real tank with 1 AT-4. It certainly doesn’t take 4 of them. Same with AA missiles. One stinger will bring down almost any aircraft it hits. The helis and planes ability to deploy flares, run behind a building, flares cool off and any damage repaired, allowing them to constantly farm teammates was aggravating. Giving ground forces something with a bit more punch is way past time. All in all, the update and class system doesn’t seem too terribly bad except for the key bindings. But I’ve only got about 6 or 7 hours play time in since release. I do only use vault weapons for weekly challenges except for the sun machine gun ak. I use it in tdm, smaller maps, high rate of fire, decent punch. Haven’t tried thermal scopes except for Zains, gadget.

[@biggestdave6044]

Only thing you really missed was the controller mapping changes. Big headache for console players

[@Rogue-Mike]

Got used to it quick on PS5. Hell I like that my L1 doesn't insta toss my nade anymore on mispress.

[@primemachine146]

I’d recommend remapping everything to what it was before the update, the only thing, your weapons swap becomes Lb as switching attachment and cycling weapons is one slot which is stupid

[@biggestdave6044]

@@primemachine146 yeah that works, you can also just use their default setting and then change crouch and melee back to bf3 veteran settings

[@danners]

Great video, Ghost. Overall really enjoying the update (the map looks incredible) and glad to see the drum mags are being reverted because that was just stupid and I agree that the Lis missile is far too good now. I’ll see you on the battlefield.

[@diegoconchas8354]

Javelin sounds pretty balanced even though you tried ur hardest to make it seem it wasn’t, add a warning for tracer dart and that’s about it

[@shane1489]

Haven’t watched yet but want to say I think it’s a great update and beyond class changes all the polish is nice and I swear the game is smoother with better shading/ lighting. Better Fire and Water and better looking explosions.

[@GhostGamingg]

I think the effects have been improved as well. I don't recall seeing anything in the patch notes but a lot of people are noticing this.

[@Arhan28]

Did the vehicle spawn window change? It seems with jets it isn’t showing the respawn time or when the jet is respawned you have to go back out and come back into the vehicle spawn window to click on the respawned jet. It makes it harder to grab or tell when one is available. It has to be a bug?

[@joshuano.v]

9:40 I’m on console and i haven’t experienced the plus system switch my weapons once, I use it often too, maybe it’s console specific

[@daraht8730]

I feel like the lis missle hitbox is way too damn big now. When I’m taking cover and trying to fire through an opening which you’d assume is big enough or over a rock that isn’t even in the viewfinder, I’m met with an explosion to the face

[@jman7196]

They should give the recon class a silencer proficiency. If recon could use silencers without the negative effects paired with the insertion beacon, it would become an awesome infiltrator class. If not a silencer proficiency just some sort of stealth proficiency.

[@turnerflorence9658]

Gunplay still needs some work and conquest is still not good in this game, other than that I'd reccomend playing 2042 it's fun.

[@RAQUIILA]

On consoles we've issues with Controller Settings. The Plussystem (weapon attachments change) is on the same button like changing to pistol. buttons has multiple functions & it breaks the flow of a good gameplay. i agree with the good changes. but really, they've to reduce or balance the Vehicle-spam. there're to much armored vehicles. The Transport choppers should only have miniguns. They should be used as transport & not as a hunting gunship.. annoying af atm. hope they balance the vehicles completly. that should be the next big step.

[@luigimrlgaming9484]

The only reason Lis and the javelins aren’t OP is because only 2-3 people use engineer on both team (IDK why, I play battlefield to Drive/Pilot Vehicles or to Blow up vehicles). If there was 2 more of them, they can’t get a singe vehicle on the field save for a fighter jet.

[@facuquinteros2575]

First day using lis missile on console: 3 little birds, 1 jet. Multiple hits to everything. Fun to use but completely Op

[@TheLizardKing752]

Also something I've started to notice across the board with vault weapons, aside from a few like the ACW-R, they have an unfortunate default gunmetal grey material, even some that should be two-tone like the MTAR. They really look modded into the game by amateurs.

[@kevedwards]

Love the update but I think the team balance needs addressed, almost every game is noobs vs sweats, can’t remember the last time I had a close game that was even remotely close. For context I mainly play exodus conquest.

[@Bobby.2k1]

Today my win loss ratio was around 3-1 losses before a win. Every time I join a game in progress we lose. Also dislike the fuck ton of sweat pc players I have to play against.

[@KetchupRacingSquad]

Liz's missile needed the buff considering it is the weakest damage output launcher and the replenish time is insanely long so you can't take out any transports or tank by yourself.

[@bunny1780]

The entire controller mapping situation is why im no longer playing 2042...theres absolutely no reason to change default controls after the game has been released for so long, and the excuse of "well u can just remap them" is completely flawed because we shouldn't have to do that in the first place...the old plus system used to be left trigger for me as i use bumpers for aim/fire...so once i switched it to LT as usual, the "Y" button is indeed what switches weapons, and is indeed broken in the plus menu as well as anything else bound to that button...the fact that the support gadget is a defib, which is already in the game anyways also makes no sense, and is even more frustrating because this is what caused the controller mapping issues in the first place.....i understand its pretty petty to be upset about remapping my controls, but my muscle memory is completely ruined now even after trying my best to remap the buttons the way they used to be, and honestly just pisses me off...the only people i have heard that actually enjoy this update are the PC KBM players, and it makes sense because their muscle memory isnt as skewed as the controller players....its also upsetting that now only assault and i cant remember what other class are the only ones that can use throwing knives...as if any other class cant throw a knife? I dont know but this update was a huge hit and disappointment to me, and i frankly just dont care to play anymore after this "rework"

[@TheoriginalBMT]

Yeah I just finished the Battlepass this weekend. This debacle on the controller mapping is gonna have me taking a break. Just amateur hour to think to roll out the controller mapping like that

[@bunny1780]

@@TheoriginalBMT glad im not the only one to feel this way...maby ill catch u in BF1 since thats where ill be from now on✌️

[@aceofcheems7685]

I like to say that the M39 EMR has a stealth damage bonus with the suppressor

[@jibbejansen]

liz's missiles do no damage on ground veiecls. you need like 6 of them to kill a tank if it hasnt repaird already

[@nobydi8460]

Just want to throw this out their, but the javelin are not unavoidable to helos.as long as you have flares it'll remove the dart lock on and will have to try to hit you with another one. Ground vehicles all you need is smoke, even a simple smoke grenade will remove the dart lock on. Just wanted to make sure that it's known.

[@sorryshiina6264]

I'm really feeling like the black sheep this update because i'm gonna be honest, i preferred the more open system we had. I was only a real big Battlefield player back in BF3 and BF4, i struggled through BF1 and BFV was just unenjoyable to me no matter how many times i tried to have fun with it. Coming into BF 2042 (admittedly like a year after it launched because buying game at full price is a sin) i actually loved how openly customisable everything was. Recoilless Rifle on Rao to bully vehicles, Medpen on Paik and running it down with an SMG in TDM. Now the lady with short range wall hacks gets a weapon proficiency buff for the longest range weapon type in the game? What? I know it sounds extremely weird coming from someone who played and enjoyed BF3 and BF4 where the class system was still at its peak but the open customisation was such a breath of fresh air. I loved it. Now it's gone with all my goofy loadouts snapped out of existence too :^I

[@heyafehya]

Personally I really enjoy anything that makes pilots mad, considering too that something like a tank can't really do anything about a nightbird directly above it spamming missiles, it's dumb, especially since most players are solo. So I welcome lis missiles and javelins

[@sigo2007]

Im sorry but as the owner of 2 drums mags, the slower ads is totally realistic. Maybe they could keep ADS same but mess with accuracy for a few seconds when it comes up? They weight of a drum mag makes bringing a rifle up way slower. You will never see a real soldier let alone an operator running one.

[@mrwickairsoft6345]

The new update is good I was actually enjoying just the older style before they changed up 2042, but I feel like it did bring it back to the old battlefield days

[@addiecore]

There's only one character that can hack. Whether they were recon or not doesn't make a difference, so I'm not sure why spotting the hacker now is any different from before. What you liked was they couldn't shoot back with rockets too

[@ibrahimsarpani8882]

Im just hoping vault weapons be like a normal weapons with attachkent and skins

[@supriyaghosh7622]

Regarding rockets my experience differes Worst thing that, with active protection, speed of LATV and RAM and NIGHTBIRD infantry still DON'T HAVE ANY CHANCE TO WIN AGAINST THEM, Need a gang of engis with rockets to take than down.... It really need to change And, too much spotting, literally can't flank in this game

[@Omenyte]

I thought I would be gone for good but after this update, I am back playing. I stop playing waaaaaaay back before season 1!

[@dallashardy4758]

I'm probably just not good with Lis but I've gotten direct hits on helis and never got them down past half health so I don't know what the deal is

[@danielb5721]

Very happy to hear the drum mag ads nerf is being reverted, this was my most hated change of the update. Getting rid of custom loadouts is another!

[@Appeltaart48]

Can't you press flares vs the javelin? I find the jav quite useless vs helos, as they always flarepoop

[@migoluis3921]

I disagree about casper being the worst specialist in the game as he is just simply underated. I dont play him as a sniper but preferably as a CQC specialist with an assault rifle, smg, or shotgun. Especially with the new T-UGS, he can hold down a point really well. Combined with his guille suit ability to detect nearby enemies and the T-UGS for pin point detection, he can either be very defense oriented or aggressive.

[@Sio91pmw]

Recon should have been harder to detect on maps or somethibg

[@RoninTheBlackFox]

I disagree about the missile. Because the helo will not stop killing us either.

[@amonkey9589]

i miss battle field 5 i know a lot of people don’t like that game but that’s in my top 5 favorite games

[@Sjamaan22]

ive a bug with tanks. i first person vieuw righclick to zoom in and shoot the secondary fast shooting gun and its way of when aiming/shooting

[@ZafoolTV]

Sad Sundance is not an engineer though. No more rocket kills on jets while wingsuiting...

[@Nightmare-4-9]

No not the med box don't forget the ammo box we need that a lot to. Don't forget he episode of battlefield friends where everyone had med box and no one had a single ammo box

[@GremlinSciences]

The class that gets both is in the unfortunate predicament where they need health a lot more than they need ammo. SMGs don't give them a lot of room to work with and put them right up in the front where ammo pouches are dropping constantly, they even end up getting ammo back whenever they go in for a revive, but they also end up taking a lot of damage and need to be able to patch themselves up quickly.

[@noxuification]

i have just tried the game after fail launch and i love gun fight ❤️🤗

[@agnostic2111]

Yes. it's much much better now.

[@kevinj834]

It’s a really good update and I enjoyed playing combat medic again. It was fun!

[@BigMuff75]

I guess, if BF had been released in this state on its first release, everybody would have loved it a lot.

[@WillTio13]

Bf V artrition system would be great on 2042. Forced people to play objective instead of running and killing wild

[@salpygidis]

It's odd how you mention that engineers and recon are tough without having healing. When have they ever had healing? Prior to this 2042 didn't have classes and every recon and engineer class every hasn't had healing.

[@GhostGamingg]

Oh yeah for sure, this always used to be the way. What I mean is that it's hard to re-adjust to the 'old ways'.

[@hyenahun]

I love to play Sundace + scar against vehicles. Maybe its not the best but its fun for me so idc :-) i want to make Boris good with the turret (advice is accepted, if anyone have amything) , and last...i dont play McKay cause i want a challange ;-) Ps: still hate "transport" helis

[@michaelleon2038]

Still feel that the guns control too much like COD. I like having to fire bursts and move slower so that I can take in the spectacle and not just be running on adrenaline. I know everyone says the portal guns need to be reworked, but I personally think all the guns EXCEPT the portal guns need to be reworked.

[@Rogue-Mike]

Bringing back the class system that should've been around from the beginning was a good move. Every class essentially buffed & have a easy learning curve. Recon imho came out better then expected from its previous incarnations. SMG, TUGS and spawn beacon = Excellent spotting & Cap harasser.

[@nairbsggirb1718]

💯💪🏽

[@MarkYeeDaMajor]

The way games are nowadays I feel like there should be yearly reviews.

[@olecthulhu5339]

The javelin and darts are great. Vehicles, especially helicopters, are still powerful as shit.

[@hatypaws]

Honestly I disagree about Vault weapons being bad. They are lower class compared to base bf2042 weapons, I agree on that. But as for me they're damn good. I play vault weapons quite often and I like them, I think some are better than base weapons, it all really depends on the situation, range, other factors. They definitely have bigger spreads, less velocity, and other stuff that I'd like that to be improved honestly, to match base bf2042 weapons, but I would not say they're bad, they're quite good imo Oh, also, Casper is quite useful imo. I usually use it at Breakthroughs when rushing or defending, I can see and tag enemy team, it helps me really a lot to see some people that trying to flank us. I saved teammates, myself from enemies gadgets, turrets and especially enemy vehicles with its EMP ability. Casper is damn good! I really love the buff for Boris and Crawford tho, they can be finally useful. I don't really like their gadgets still, I like they're way more powerful now which they really needed and can be somewhat useful, but I don't really find that much of a use. I noticed boris's turret reacts on people faster, deals plenty damage again, but it's still not best. I must play these 2 specialist more but I just dont like the overall design and idea of gadgets, or they're meh or they're too god, not sure if there's a good middle.

[@hatypaws]

I think I could describe a bit more and be more precise, but I lose my thoughts while thinking of next sentence lol

[@GremlinSciences]

I think the vault weapons only seem as bad as they do because they're only really being released for categories that already have a lot of options. The M39 EBR and GOL Sniper are both strong entries in their categories even with their limited attachment selections because they don't have much competition, but the assault rifles and SMGs have been getting constant new entries since launch which makes it hard for the new weapons to stand out.

[@hatypaws]

@@GremlinSciences I see all guns here are quite balanced and has its own purposes, like k30 is only close range and fast, pbx close to mid range with better accuracy but slower fire rate. Mini back is good to play from cover, etc etc. I mean certain weapons are best/good at certain situations, I like to take AK-74U a lot cuz it's good close-mid range. I only don't like spread, even though it felt better recently. I also play M416, A91 quite a plenty rather base bf2042 weapons. Vault weapons look weak but they're powerful imo. But they still need to stand against base weapons, cuz spreads are baaad, sadly

[@christianjuen556]

Now that AOW is fixed, fix Portal with new Maps, DICE, plz.

[@RandomUselessKnowledge]

Yeah vehicles are pretty broken now. They always go from one extreme to the other for some stupid reason.

[@massimomaglia479]

The vehicles now are fine and pretty balance. It's all so easy when 20 people of your team (on 64 server) melt down a tank (4 shot) in a second..

[@RandomUselessKnowledge]

@@massimomaglia479 that’s why they are broken and it’s not balanced. The game is supposed to have a counter to everything that’s out there. Vehicles can’t counter unlimited player guided missiles, Soflam, javelins, tracer darts, and Rao’s hack now giving Soflam with one flare or smoke every so often and zero cover to hide behind due to the map design. So no… it’s not balanced….

[@luigimrlgaming9484]

@@RandomUselessKnowledge sorry to hear your unlucky but vehicles are more vulnerable than ever if there is more than one person playing engineer.

[@RandomUselessKnowledge]

@@luigimrlgaming9484 it’s all good man just bizarre how they go from one extreme to another. I’ve always been more infantry based but the game was so broken early on that vehicles made more sense. Now that they are basically junk I’ll adapt and play more infantry again lol. They just sure as hell don’t know how to balance a game.