Battlefield 2042: PS5 vs Xbox Series X/S - The Digital Foundry Tech Review

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Digital Foundry

Digital Foundry

2 жыл бұрын

Join Oliver Mackenzie for a look at the latest patched rendition of Battlefield 2042. We decided to skip the early access period to concentrate on the experience after the developers had the chance to address early issues. In our opinion the game is starting to come together, but performance and netcode needs polish - especially on Xbox Series X.
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@ThirdPlaceEntertainment
@ThirdPlaceEntertainment 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know. I just feel like Oliver doesn't go as in depth with like what's going on under the hood Tech-wise as much as the other guys do. Is that just me?? Seems more like a general visuals review than a technical analysis
@stevehoot99
@stevehoot99 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think this is the first video I've seen by Oliver after watching DF for about a year and I'm a little disappointed. Not terrible by any means, but seems to lack depth and I think he was a little too kind compared to his colleagues about the flaws. DF has always held a high bar when it comes to frame rates and frame pacing in particular but Oliver has taken much softer position on it which I'm not a fan of personally.
@AlfredoEscalante
@AlfredoEscalante 2 жыл бұрын
I just think the absence of VoIP for cross-play is inexcusable... people say discord will come to consoles but it is inexcusable to release a multiplayer only game in 2021 and not even be able to communicate with friends... it is back to BF1942...
@callumdointhings5
@callumdointhings5 2 жыл бұрын
@AzenStreams not arguing lol just curious: What's different with the controller this time? I played a round on PC with a controller and it all worked fine. Do you mean that you can't hot swap back and forth between mouse and keyboard?
@ragnar3187
@ragnar3187 2 жыл бұрын
is discord actually coming to console fr?
@SC0RPI0NFURY
@SC0RPI0NFURY 2 жыл бұрын
@@ragnar3187 Sony has investments in discord. Sony and Discord announced a new partnership on May 3, 2021 that will bring the popular messaging platform directly to PlayStation consoles by early 2022
@AlfredoEscalante
@AlfredoEscalante 2 жыл бұрын
@@ragnar3187 Not sure about Xbox but Playstation had a PSblog post I think that sometime during 2022 Discord would be supported...
@DakinRinone
@DakinRinone 2 жыл бұрын
@@callumdointhings5 do you write the scripts for "the casual criminalist"?
@Alex-se3uy
@Alex-se3uy 2 жыл бұрын
Would have preferred a more in depth tech analysis. This just sort of reads off like a hastily put together bullet list of console differences with not much depth or actual analysis. Just my two cents!
@medovk
@medovk 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah im dissapointed in this analysis as well, it's nowhere near quality content we expect from DF
@justinmadison513
@justinmadison513 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree. I expected this game to get the John treatment and turn out to be a 30-40 minute analysis.
@tfhigginson
@tfhigginson 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I like the style, it's a good mix of qualitative and quantitative analysis about - let's face it - a not very exciting game. I also quite like the brevity, it's a breath of fresh air.
@DigitalBroomstick
@DigitalBroomstick 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah whoever is doing the script/narration needs the sack.
@Pete-vz5uj
@Pete-vz5uj 2 жыл бұрын
This reviewer most certainly went with the Boots on the Ground approach
@JediPacman
@JediPacman 2 жыл бұрын
When I played the Battlefield 1 beta I remember being impressed with the graphics of the game and thinking that it was a really good looking game. For 2042 I didn't really feel the same
@Elias_g1
@Elias_g1 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it looks worse than Battlefield 5 !
@BlazeAlien
@BlazeAlien 2 жыл бұрын
Yh I remember playing BFV beta on PS4 and thought it looked amazing, and now playing BF2042 on PS5 it still looks good but not amazing.
@ActNasty5
@ActNasty5 2 жыл бұрын
@@Elias_g1 pop in on 5 looks way worse though
@Elias_g1
@Elias_g1 2 жыл бұрын
@@ActNasty5 Depends on where you are playing it.
@mr.blonde7812
@mr.blonde7812 2 жыл бұрын
Well that's because you guys are playing on console, and they're having to severely stifle the graphical settings on 2042 to facilitate 128 players and the physics of frostbite on them. On PC it's one of the best looking games to date.
@ondra4526
@ondra4526 2 жыл бұрын
Folks at DF realize the soundtrack of this new Battlefield is so bad it's not worth using even as a background music in their videos and instead opt to use glorious soundtrack of older Battlefields. Good thinking DF!
@Noclaf555
@Noclaf555 2 жыл бұрын
Soundtrack really, your bitching about soundtrack, 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@_Quint_
@_Quint_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@Noclaf555 yes, because the musical soundtrack in the new game is utter turd, and it should be talked about as such.
@Noclaf555
@Noclaf555 2 жыл бұрын
@@_Quint_ lol that it's important to you is nutz, I have it off but cry about what you want
@firexallst4rz277
@firexallst4rz277 2 жыл бұрын
I agree the soundtrack is ass
@GHGMike
@GHGMike 2 жыл бұрын
@@Noclaf555 Audio has a huge impact on immersive gaming, suggest you get your ears syringed.
@That_Tyr_Guy
@That_Tyr_Guy 2 жыл бұрын
Yea don’t forget the absolutely horrible crashing problems on xbox series x. I haven’t been able to finish a game without my xbox crashing to the dashboard or a full on shutdown of the console.
@H7__
@H7__ 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, FPS drops and loads of crashes for me
@ozzydo2314
@ozzydo2314 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I’m just the lucky one. No problems on my end. 12 hours in and no crashing
@uSACRIFICE
@uSACRIFICE 2 жыл бұрын
This has been addressed by an Xbox update, so no more shutdowns should be experienced. The game still occasionally crashes though. 🤷‍♂️
@st4rskream
@st4rskream 2 жыл бұрын
Its a total pain the ass. Mine usually crashes on the map with all the shipping containers and actually shut off my series X although only once in quite a few hours of playing. The slowdown and freezing is probably the bug i see the most and usually ends in either a crash to dash or me just being killed while standing still waiting for the game to unfreeze.
@riceeater79
@riceeater79 2 жыл бұрын
It's weird that all these analysis channels used to compare ALL THREE versions AT THE SAME TIME to see the actual moment to moment performance differences between all systems (when Xbox Series X was winning most comparisons). But more and more, analysis guys are separating the versions making it difficult to get a real read on which system is performing best or worst in the same sections. Anyone else notice this?
@LeiChaobruh
@LeiChaobruh 2 жыл бұрын
This felt more like a surface level ign review that is afraid to give anything but a 7 or 8 and is lacking the usual in depth analysis. There is a lot missing here
@eSKAone-
@eSKAone- 2 жыл бұрын
There will be coming a lot more coverage. This game is here to stay. 💟
@LeiChaobruh
@LeiChaobruh 2 жыл бұрын
@@eSKAone- not judging by the playercount retention
@melcorchancla9431
@melcorchancla9431 2 жыл бұрын
@@eSKAone- lmao when, this video is really really bad compared to the BFV analysis
@LeiChaobruh
@LeiChaobruh 2 жыл бұрын
@@eSKAone- where's the coverage, still waiting
@eSKAone-
@eSKAone- 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I seem to be important 😂
@eagletheblue
@eagletheblue 2 жыл бұрын
“overhauled class system”….. more like non existing class system “made up with the amount of multiplayer content”…. _> srsly, are we playing the same game? Do you know how much cut multiplayer gameplay mechanics/content is missing from this title, which were in the previous titles? This intro feels really AD like……
@codyw518
@codyw518 2 жыл бұрын
DF has changed. What is this garbage.
@dl5fse990
@dl5fse990 2 жыл бұрын
I agree!!! I thought to myself is this an ad The lack of campaign is NOT made up by the multiplayer at all
@Doggi2dog
@Doggi2dog 2 жыл бұрын
Oliver: "across the current gen consoles, these problems aren't too bad" Graph: 60 - 20FPS 40 FPS drop and they "aren't too bad"?
@karbin89
@karbin89 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah hate to say it but DF seemed scared to say this game is in a very lousy state.
@blackheart909
@blackheart909 2 жыл бұрын
@Neil Robertson 😂😂😂
@JonnyLin7
@JonnyLin7 2 жыл бұрын
Not defending this game, but I didn't see anywhere in the video where the frame rate dips to 20 FPS. The lowest it got in the video I saw was 46 FPS for a moment, but as he said the worst it gets is typically in the low 50s. The graph values don't mean it necessarily gets that low. For other games they have the graph go all the way down to 0 in the graph, but obviously the game doesn't actually dip to 0 FPS.
@Doggi2dog
@Doggi2dog 2 жыл бұрын
@@JonnyLin7 At 8:41 it hits 20. I'm not trying to hate on BF but we need to be critical for it to get better, this is the 3rd unfinished BattleField launch. 2042 has launched in an unacceptable state and DF needs to be more critical too. How many more unacceptable launches should we accept? Does it have to get as bad as Madden to be "too bad"?
@rsuarez1991
@rsuarez1991 2 жыл бұрын
@@Doggi2dog that's not a drop in fps, the game hitches for a second. if the graph allowed it would 'drop' to 0 fps which is impossible.
@brentblayoneblayone3948
@brentblayoneblayone3948 2 жыл бұрын
There needs to be 64 player servers with condensed maps for those who want the option. I personally hate the 128 player modes and find it to be mindless chaos that tanks performance with no benefit to my gameplay experience.
@DT1878
@DT1878 2 жыл бұрын
They increased the player size but also the map size so at time they feel empty and you can go to long without player to player combat
@brentblayoneblayone3948
@brentblayoneblayone3948 2 жыл бұрын
@@DT1878 100%, even with double the player count this is the most empty the maps ever felt in a battlefield game, in Conquest on a couple of these maps I spend half the fucking game just wandering around trying to find a fight
@Pete-vz5uj
@Pete-vz5uj 2 жыл бұрын
BOOTS ON THE GROUND
@hanzolo7719
@hanzolo7719 2 жыл бұрын
It’s almost as if everyone forgets that portal exists..
@BSoDGaming
@BSoDGaming 2 жыл бұрын
They have 64 player versions of all the maps. There are dozens of servers on the Portal server browser, running Conquest 64 on all 13 maps :)
@BSoDGaming
@BSoDGaming 2 жыл бұрын
You can play the 64 player versions of these maps on next gen and PC via Portal...the maps are part of the Conquest Small preset. Even conquest Large can be tailored to have 64, 80 or 128 players per map (You can set the number yourself) in Portal. Its all easily accessible from either the server browser, or player customizable from the portal homepage.
@dualshark117
@dualshark117 2 жыл бұрын
oi Bsod, how you doing?
@amir1991xsda
@amir1991xsda 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I hope you are doing great. There is no new update in your channel since last few months. Missed your great content
@mattyork7625
@mattyork7625 2 жыл бұрын
I think they should put them in standard match making. Have a 32v32 conquest matchmaking options. Sometimes it's hard to get Portal games going, getting guys to join on servers where your ping isn't going to be over 200 can be challenging.
@BSoDGaming
@BSoDGaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@amir1991xsda I'm doing good, work life making it difficult to make new vids these days, but ill be back soon(Ish)
@bl4d3runn3rX
@bl4d3runn3rX 2 жыл бұрын
Does it run better on conquest small?
@snake123409
@snake123409 2 жыл бұрын
This "tech review" doesn't address a lot of things that Digital foundry usually looks at. No mention of badly or non existent bf destruction, large open EMPTY spaces, major bugs etc. The game doesn't deserve much attention we know but at least point out the flaws and don't call everything "justified" just because 128 players.
@thes3riesman444
@thes3riesman444 2 жыл бұрын
You definitely haven’t played the game lmao. There’s tons of destruction. Probably more than previous battlefields. And if your in an empty space, choose a better spawn. You sound so bitter. Try not to tell people what to post on their channels 😂
@codyw518
@codyw518 2 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@mitchellmcquillen9520
@mitchellmcquillen9520 2 жыл бұрын
@@thes3riesman444 more destruction than other battlefields.... I'll just remind you that you did actually just write that and I assume you've never played any other battlefield before
@thes3riesman444
@thes3riesman444 2 жыл бұрын
@@mitchellmcquillen9520 stfu kid. Play the game. Literally everything but main buildings can be destroyed.
@itsWelshy
@itsWelshy 2 жыл бұрын
@@thes3riesman444 And with that you've exposed your inexperience with the franchise. In previous games main buildings have been destructible both via levelution and regular play. In Bad Company 2's case you can basically level the entire map. Good try though, it's OK to criticise things you love in an effort to see them improve.
@frjoethesecond
@frjoethesecond 2 жыл бұрын
MAG had 256 on PS3. Still waiting on a good modern replacement. God, I miss that game. Never have I been more immersed in a war setting.
@glenmcl
@glenmcl 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly this. I was a huge MAG player. The smaller maps made it feel like chaos and war. Glorious.
@waggletontallylicker2299
@waggletontallylicker2299 2 жыл бұрын
Don't remember much of mag tbh but what i do remember is that it was chaos the entire time. Good stuff. Nice groups had their own objectives too.
@Samanosuke1138
@Samanosuke1138 2 жыл бұрын
Getting shot out of the sky for 10 minutes at a time was life lol
@frjoethesecond
@frjoethesecond 2 жыл бұрын
@@Samanosuke1138 TBF, if the air spawn was that contested, you needed more people hunting snipers. A good squad leader could arrange that.
@Samanosuke1138
@Samanosuke1138 2 жыл бұрын
@@frjoethesecond yeah. I was just never in a group that did, unfortunately.. I think that game would thrive today, especially with a significantly improved VOIP setup.
@Akrymir
@Akrymir 2 жыл бұрын
Labeling the current bugs as "fairly minor issues and visual quarks" is probably the most inaccurate statement I've heard come from a DF video. That is literally the opposite of what it really is on every platform.
@ZzzremaerdzzZ
@ZzzremaerdzzZ 2 жыл бұрын
On ps5 ive never had a big bug only some small visual bugs and one time the bug where I couldnt be reviewed (its now fixed and I have played 40+ hours currently lvl 62)
@petertheg
@petertheg 2 жыл бұрын
Yea I don't like this new guy
@m_b4
@m_b4 2 жыл бұрын
Comes across like a shill piece, sponsored content.
@bartdog59
@bartdog59 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly if you were actually playing the game you would realise this statement is true. Digital foundry is doing what it always does and representing clear, critical and thought out thinking towards the game. Rather than the snarling animals on the bf2042 subreddit hivemind.
@codyw518
@codyw518 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah wtf.
@86themadhatter27
@86themadhatter27 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why they thought 128 players would be a selling point for this game. I'd rather have 64 or even 80 on maps the size of BFV's Pacific maps
@chilenozo
@chilenozo 2 жыл бұрын
executives always think bigger is better as a selling point
@biscuitsntea421
@biscuitsntea421 2 жыл бұрын
They tried to hard and in turn failed at everything. The maps are terribly designed and the whole thing feels like a free to play, that I would uninstall
@FalloutSeeker
@FalloutSeeker 2 жыл бұрын
@@chilenozo This community does not know what the hell they want. Everyone has been wanting more players since BF3. Check old forums and old reddit threads sorted by old. People wanted bigger maps. People play Golmud Railway 24/7 but complain about Hourglass. This community just doesn't know what the hell it wants anymore, even if this game has lots of issues. Worst community to be in.
@steve833333
@steve833333 2 жыл бұрын
they trying to compete with fortnite and warzone so this is what they came up with
@NickthaGeek
@NickthaGeek 2 жыл бұрын
The higher playercount isnt the issue. The issue is the maps are shit . Theres hardly any destruction and they are miles too big.
@412yinzr
@412yinzr 2 жыл бұрын
The maps are too big even for 128 players. They need to be about 1/3 smaller than their current size.
@AaronLaye
@AaronLaye 2 жыл бұрын
After dozens of hours, I've never felt this to be true. Sure, there's no action around spawn, but it doesn't take long to run into action with the maps and player count.
@indeed596
@indeed596 2 жыл бұрын
Yea i find the maps to be oversized. It would take years to know them intimately. Too much running around to be run over by a hovercraft. Doesn't feel like you're fighting for anything. Just blind madness with no coherence. Bf5 Pacific breakthrough was much tighter, compelling and fun!
@codyw518
@codyw518 2 жыл бұрын
A waste of $70.
@Pete-vz5uj
@Pete-vz5uj 2 жыл бұрын
The Map is big enough to accommodate the BOOTS ON THE GROUND 😺 💩 👌 😉 😳 😀 😺 💩 👌 😉
@licensetoshred
@licensetoshred 2 жыл бұрын
@AzenStreams No, sounds much more like Dice going back to their roots with massive maps and loads of vehicles, like 1942/Vietnam/BF2
@medovk
@medovk 2 жыл бұрын
As a long time DF follower I must say I'm really disappointed in quality of this video. Shallow and done just to be done with it. Having the game on both ps5 and series x, I was expecting a real in depth analysis of differences between these 2 versions. It's unexpected and a shame for a game important as Battlefield. Sad times. 😔
@TheL1arL1ar
@TheL1arL1ar 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it’s reflecting the popularity….towards battlefield.
@Beaut_Beau
@Beaut_Beau 2 жыл бұрын
What the actual fuck are you on about.
@nkw1985
@nkw1985 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is very boring to listen to compared to John, Rich, or the rest in my opinion and like you said his analysis didn't meet the Digital Foundry standard.
@GHGMike
@GHGMike 2 жыл бұрын
Vacuous fodder. Seems DF are reluctant to upset?
@DrJones20
@DrJones20 2 жыл бұрын
@@Beaut_Beau He spoke clearly
@EonHSD
@EonHSD 2 жыл бұрын
Not the sort of in-depth content I come to DF for but still fine. I hope a more detailed video will follow though!
@youtindia
@youtindia 2 жыл бұрын
I tried to give the new guy a fair shot, but after watching a few videos, I conclude that his videos just don't feel like Digital Foundry videos. Look at the GTA definitive videos for example. The GTA 3 video was amazingly done as you would typically expect from John, but the video for Vice City and San Andreas felt like it was done in haste and didn't even cover Xbox One/PS4 versions that was covered in the GTA 3 video. GTA 3 video was amazingly well done which was really easy to follow and was insightful. The 2nd VC+SA video felt all over the place just like this one and honestly felt more like a IGN video than Digital Foundry at that point. I understand that digital foundry needs to expand, but I hope they do it in a way that does not hurt the quality of their videos.
@DigitalBroomstick
@DigitalBroomstick 2 жыл бұрын
I think they need to let this guy go. His analysis has been pretty lacking and his narration sends me to sleep. It really does not feel like DigitalFoundry
@SixSioux
@SixSioux 2 жыл бұрын
@@DigitalBroomstick Man, take it easy with the harsh comment. He just reviewd 2 titles and probably the most unfortunate ones since beginning of this year. Would you honestly spend energies yourself in providing an in-depth analysis of this mess of a game right now? I do not think so, surely not at its current state.
@parsashirali8957
@parsashirali8957 2 жыл бұрын
@@SixSioux their comment wasnt really that harsh tho? Honestly people need to differentiate between criticism and rudeness
@youtindia
@youtindia 2 жыл бұрын
​@@SixSioux John did an amazing job covering the mess of the game that was GTA 3, why should anyone else just skip over a broken game? If anything then they should cover the broken parts in depth which forces developers to re-consider their approach like John did with GTA 3 video. If anything then this guy downplayed the issues in Battlefield 2042.
@DANNYonPC
@DANNYonPC 2 жыл бұрын
5:00, Wait SSR was never in previous BF console games? i cant believe that
@ruhidmohamad
@ruhidmohamad 2 жыл бұрын
It was present in hardline but nowhere else. Last gen version of 2042 has no SSR. 2042 is honestly the first Battlefield game where the current gen console version matches up with PC visually and gameplay wise
@matthieulestrat
@matthieulestrat 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry to say this but the performnce analysis here is very removed from my experience. On Series X I’ve encountered frequent occurencies of framerate dropping in the single digits, or even freezingventirely for a couple sceonds (not ms). Most common offenders are the maps « Discarded » (especially on top of the tanker) and « Manifest ». You should try and have a go at those two on a 128 players servers of Conquest/Breakthrough
@riceeater79
@riceeater79 2 жыл бұрын
It's weird that all these analysis channels used to compare ALL THREE versions AT THE SAME TIME to see the actual moment to moment performance differences between all systems (when Xbox Series X was winning most comparisons). But more and more, analysis guys are separating the versions making it difficult to get a real read on which system is performing best or worst in the same sections. You notice this?
@RodrigoQuintas0
@RodrigoQuintas0 2 жыл бұрын
@@riceeater79 its very hard to make the same scenario for each console to play. So its best to have them playing and giving an overall view of the gameplay.
@YourManJazzie
@YourManJazzie 2 жыл бұрын
I miss the days of Bad Company 2. A well made campaign lasting anywhere from 6-8 hours alongside a complete, tactical multiplayer mode launching with 10 destruction filled maps. This one has 3 more maps at launch, but is buggy, has no singleplayer content AND costs £30 more...
@NikHem343
@NikHem343 2 жыл бұрын
Bad Company 2 is the best multiplayer I’ve ever played and that’s coming from a core Halo fan.
@voidgamingstudios8955
@voidgamingstudios8955 2 жыл бұрын
Battlefield 20-42fps
@AndrewEngram
@AndrewEngram 2 жыл бұрын
on your crap hardware 😂
@voidgamingstudios8955
@voidgamingstudios8955 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewEngram can't take a joke?
@-Grifter
@-Grifter 2 жыл бұрын
@@voidgamingstudios8955 21 people liked your witty comment including me. It was a good one my friend. Forget people that troll. Look I hope I get trolled now!
@AndrewEngram
@AndrewEngram 2 жыл бұрын
@@voidgamingstudios8955 sorry if i hurt your feelings 😂
@RandomMan10
@RandomMan10 Жыл бұрын
​@@AndrewEngram it sounds like you were the one who got butthurt here
@RoccoWocco
@RoccoWocco 2 жыл бұрын
Will you guys do a PC version of this video? Maybe also testing the extend of the CPU bottlenecking and see what settings actually matter to alleviate it?
@colinparks619
@colinparks619 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, deff need pc vs sx and ps5
@benjamin8399
@benjamin8399 2 жыл бұрын
@@colinparks619 I don't understand why it wasn't done by default
@nbaumg
@nbaumg 2 жыл бұрын
this video sounded like a "tech review" I would get from IGN, not Digital Foundary :/
@DroneCorpse
@DroneCorpse 2 жыл бұрын
IGN hired NXG, and is on par with DF these days.
@amnril
@amnril 2 жыл бұрын
For a technical vs review of current consoles it seemed too light on the actual ‘vs’ part.
@Kaspar_Houser
@Kaspar_Houser 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! So PS5 and SeriesX have the same settings but ps5 drops a bit lower in fps sometimes??
@amnril
@amnril 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kaspar_Houser Reports elsewhere show that PS5 drops resolution a little lower but series X drops to to lower fps…. So all in all, the two are very similar.
@Kaspar_Houser
@Kaspar_Houser 2 жыл бұрын
@@amnril ah okay thanks man, still habe to decide between ps5 and seriesX but ps5 will have better games i think
@codyw518
@codyw518 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah who is this guy?
@Pete-vz5uj
@Pete-vz5uj 2 жыл бұрын
Review needs more BOOTS ON THE GROUND 😺 💩 👌 😉 😳 😀 😺 💩
@cawashka
@cawashka 2 жыл бұрын
AAA releases aren’t what they used to be
@mr.blonde7812
@mr.blonde7812 2 жыл бұрын
Battlefield 4 was way worse at launch.
@hexerei02021
@hexerei02021 2 жыл бұрын
Games today are also a lot more complex than they used to be
@Pete-vz5uj
@Pete-vz5uj 2 жыл бұрын
They are now all about being BOOTS ON THE GROUND
@mr.blonde7812
@mr.blonde7812 2 жыл бұрын
@@AnnieWilliams78 because in a relative comparison it has nowhere near the issues, and Battlefield 4 went on to become one of the consensus best first person shooters of all time.
@tomohawkcloud
@tomohawkcloud 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing the gaming industry cares about is money.
@joejoe2658
@joejoe2658 2 жыл бұрын
this guy needs to sound less bored when reading the script...
@Cartoonman154
@Cartoonman154 2 жыл бұрын
Battlefield 2042 is not the date but the number of problems it has.
@fcukugimmeausername
@fcukugimmeausername 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@vandammage1747
@vandammage1747 2 жыл бұрын
Battlefail 2042 problems
@NickthaGeek
@NickthaGeek 2 жыл бұрын
Or the number of key features missing at launch.
@DrJones20
@DrJones20 2 жыл бұрын
Lame
@carlschildhauer6889
@carlschildhauer6889 2 жыл бұрын
20- 42 Fps
@tob564
@tob564 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you lying? The game has much LESS multiplayer content than previous entries like BF4. Unbelievable.
@JoaoFederle
@JoaoFederle 2 жыл бұрын
that moment when you click on a DF video and its not john or alex :(
@stephonhines6554
@stephonhines6554 2 жыл бұрын
💯
@cmdr101z8
@cmdr101z8 2 жыл бұрын
This is honestly why I always wait a year to two to get battlefield on a discount. I get a fixed and finished game for like $20
@qwertmom
@qwertmom 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah bf5 was on sale for half the price in like a month.
@MyD69
@MyD69 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, but almost a dead game by then, u will miss the best part imho. I do that in single player games, but multiplayer ones… well, it’s up to u.
@cmdr101z8
@cmdr101z8 2 жыл бұрын
@@MyD69 It worked for BF1 and BFV, the servers were still plenty active when I got the games
@MyD69
@MyD69 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmdr101z8 Bf5 they removed small modes, (squad conquest, frontlines, assault…). I played it since day 1, believe me, it was funnier in the beginning, but as i said it’s up to u (btw 1500+ hours in bf5, myd69 bftracker ;)
@aoikemono6414
@aoikemono6414 2 жыл бұрын
The whole industry would crumble. People need to eat you know.
@wile123456
@wile123456 2 жыл бұрын
Must have played only an hour of the game if that was the only bugs you encountered lol
@codyw518
@codyw518 2 жыл бұрын
Truly lol. DF is slipping. Who is this guy?
@OldZSkool
@OldZSkool 2 жыл бұрын
I feel this review is giving EA a pass on releasing a game that has many issues that should have been corrected at launch. The fact alone that you discuss using the prior console version on the new console to solve the frame rate issue should be a huge red flag. Totally unacceptable.
@bry223
@bry223 2 жыл бұрын
It's a tech review, not a game review ....
@OldZSkool
@OldZSkool 2 жыл бұрын
@@bry223 thanks for confirming my point.
@codyw518
@codyw518 2 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@TheSoulWithin7
@TheSoulWithin7 2 жыл бұрын
agreed, its so tone deaf
@byghostlight0
@byghostlight0 2 жыл бұрын
Its not DF job to comment about the state of the game, beyond the tech stuff. Their compliments were merely things that DICE deserve to be complimented on, despite the vast amount of things they shouldnt be complimented on that have nothing to do with a tech review. They were saying for the most part they run VERY smoothly at 60 but it perfection is important 'do this'.
@T4SelNiNO
@T4SelNiNO 2 жыл бұрын
Conquest Maps are unnecessarily large. Sometimes bigger isn't always better. Feels like a marathon simulator. Then there's all the other issues on top of this.
@miki_the_little198
@miki_the_little198 2 жыл бұрын
Dice should have considered adding a 64 player game mode which randomizes map layouts by decreasing its size, so that if we have a map with 5 zones, we get to play combinations of diifferent 4 zones each time for example, I think that would add a lot to the replayability and performance
@roblima3397
@roblima3397 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds Good!
@e2rqey
@e2rqey 2 жыл бұрын
I'm all for giving the new guy a chance but so many issues were ignored, minimized or justified. This video seems to have zero desire to hold DICE responsible for selling this game to people in this state. Nobody should have to download the last-gen version to get playable framerates on their current-gen console. This video lacked the depth of analysis that I have come to expect from DF. It should have been at least twice as long as it is, if it was really going to go into the technical state of the game and analyze why many of these issues were occurring in the first place. DF has a very important role in gaming, when DF highlights a games issues the devs take notice. This one video could have done more than thousands of customer complaints. I get this guy is new but I have to assume Richard or someone else on the team signed off on this video before it was allowed to be uploaded and I really don't think it should have been. This doesn't meet the standard of quality set by the rest of the DF team. And calling this game, one of the top 10 worst rated games of all-time on Steam a "qualifed success" is absolutely laughable.
@lxXSuddenDeathXxl
@lxXSuddenDeathXxl 2 жыл бұрын
Yo DF. I love your videos but this sounds paid 100%. You were saying how amazing the game & the content is overwhelming but the game has so many problems & actually has a lack of content.
@transtechgirl8786
@transtechgirl8786 2 жыл бұрын
DF don't review games as such they do technical reviews. Yes the game has problems and it's definitely not for me. But it also has some really impressive features such as the large number of players, the impressive weather effects and huge maps.
@lxXSuddenDeathXxl
@lxXSuddenDeathXxl 2 жыл бұрын
@@transtechgirl8786 I love DF because they can either get into so many details about how great a game is or be really critical when necessary but here it was nothing about how “great” the game is with so much content! All such bs! Lying through their teeth.
@transtechgirl8786
@transtechgirl8786 2 жыл бұрын
@@lxXSuddenDeathXxl People are allowed opinions, their opinion differs to yours, as that makes you unhappy I suggest you just move on.
@SOF006
@SOF006 2 жыл бұрын
"You can download the PS4 and Xbox One versions of the game for best experience" - But you shouldn't have to do that!
@evilformerlys4704
@evilformerlys4704 2 жыл бұрын
Considering PC player do this shit all the time but going into settings and dialing back a ton of things to get that perfect frame rate. You're acting like this is any different?
@epicanova
@epicanova 2 жыл бұрын
I've made Portal modes where you can play 2042 rules on both the old and new maps. AAK454 - 128 players AAAK9D - 64 players
@codyw518
@codyw518 2 жыл бұрын
Who cares.
@deadlyydude5522
@deadlyydude5522 2 жыл бұрын
Really curious to see how last gen performance is holding up, I’m guessing it’s bad
@CaptJackSwallows
@CaptJackSwallows 2 жыл бұрын
It worse don't even do the backwards compatibility it not worth it the servers are way way worse in my experience and even my brother experience on Xbox series x and am using and xbss
@codyw518
@codyw518 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad they didn’t address that.
@spookyman9994
@spookyman9994 2 жыл бұрын
could you please go watch battlefield 2042 vs battlefield V and then see which one is better in terms of graphics . i cant believe DF of all the channels are praising the game .
@ruhidmohamad
@ruhidmohamad 2 жыл бұрын
2042 is visually superior ESPECIALLY on consoles
@JoshuaLindsay11
@JoshuaLindsay11 2 жыл бұрын
“This’ll be good…” me when I saw the thumbnail
@existentialselkath1264
@existentialselkath1264 2 жыл бұрын
Literally thought word for word the same thing as I saw it, clicked on it, and saw your comment. It's like you read my mind XD
@immanuel7306
@immanuel7306 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@khoado2060
@khoado2060 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeuk666 Bruh what how?
@trillpapi6189
@trillpapi6189 2 жыл бұрын
They should've kept the same map size from BF4, BF1 & BF5 with the doubled player count. Then it would've felt like an upgrade in gameplay. In my opinion the maps from those games were too big for 64 player conquest. I think the 128 would've did those maps justice
@SeifSoudani
@SeifSoudani 2 жыл бұрын
According to VG Tech, "very large frame time spikes were found on Xbox Series X. These frame time spikes weren't found on PS5 or Xbox Series S." VG Tech was much more accurate than Digital Foundry in this case. DF knows that the Series X has been having those longer stream freezes since launch in other games.
@eSKAone-
@eSKAone- 2 жыл бұрын
No freezes on my PS5 💟
@davenewman4663
@davenewman4663 2 жыл бұрын
Needs to be optimized clearly... The game is a buggy mess..
@willjohnboy
@willjohnboy 2 жыл бұрын
They don't like showcasing the series x's faults to the point that they even put new staff on games that show this frame rate issue like in the ghostrunners video.
@twistedmental1608
@twistedmental1608 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t had any freezes on my series X. I haven’t tried it on my ps5. This game is trash though.
@gilroypro1010
@gilroypro1010 2 жыл бұрын
@AzenStreams There aren't no freezing spikes on ps5. Just random rubber banding and other bugs
@Daniel-yz3zf
@Daniel-yz3zf 2 жыл бұрын
I do think it should be conveyed that, whilst it's fair to suggest playing previous gen versions to achieve slightly improved FPS etc., it's utterly unacceptable for a game release to make people even consider doing that, especially in this case where there are other core gameplay compromises. I understand the reason for mentioning it... it's technically something you CAN do if you're desperate for extra frames, but the reality is it shouldn't have to be a suggestion at all - optimisation should be better, especially for AAA releases. End of story.
@matthewrobbins663
@matthewrobbins663 2 жыл бұрын
I am not crazy. People are suggesting running the prior gen version on next gen for smoother performance? That's not right.
@kicapanmanis1060
@kicapanmanis1060 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewrobbins663 the main team tend to agree with you based on their Direct conversations. They noticed this trend too.
@Ablequerq
@Ablequerq 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to add [Sponsored] to video title.
@_Quint_
@_Quint_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, but I really hope you guys are working on a PC/console "best settings" direct comparison.
@vypermajik
@vypermajik 2 жыл бұрын
Same!
@codyw518
@codyw518 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is bullshit and doesn’t stand up to the quality of previous DF videos.
@adammohrone
@adammohrone 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta admit, this was drier than Alex’s throat during DF Direct…
@stephonhines3013
@stephonhines3013 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@realityengine
@realityengine 2 жыл бұрын
Digital foundry went too easy on this dumpster fire.
@colorado_gaming
@colorado_gaming 2 жыл бұрын
Was really hoping Dice learned from BF4. Here we are 8 years later in the exact same position, except maybe worse.
@JDC5656
@JDC5656 2 жыл бұрын
Worse
@willinton06
@willinton06 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely worse
@raresmacovei8382
@raresmacovei8382 2 жыл бұрын
BF4 was technically worse in MP. But it had a properly rounded game. Here the main game is flawled
@NickthaGeek
@NickthaGeek 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously? The writing was on the wall. Since then we have had Hardline = shit Battlefront = empty lootbox mess Bf1 = got better in time but aimed at casuals Battlefront 2 = shit which improved over years Bfv = a mess of a game. Terrible communication. Woke mess. Telling their customers go buy something else. Half assed br that got zero support. Then this. Loads of promises. Loads of lies. Ahead of schedule blah blah. Then release this mess without even a fucking scoreboard.
@NickthaGeek
@NickthaGeek 2 жыл бұрын
@@raresmacovei8382 agreed. It had technical issues. The core game was great though and the players could see their vision.
@ekelekrizitrat6267
@ekelekrizitrat6267 2 жыл бұрын
Something in that game is just wrong, just graphics wise gameplay wise it’s even worse. For me it’s just very underwhelming and doesn’t look better than a bf 1 or 5. I’m missing a next gen feeling.
@Prodzick
@Prodzick 2 жыл бұрын
The whole game is bigger and buggier
@ekelekrizitrat6267
@ekelekrizitrat6267 2 жыл бұрын
@@Prodzick dice and the game industry is developing, just backwards
@mr.blonde7812
@mr.blonde7812 2 жыл бұрын
Well that would be because your console hardware is underwhelming.
@cmdr101z8
@cmdr101z8 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.blonde7812 The performance of the PS5 and Series X is nothing to be laughed at, especially for the cost. They’re plenty powerful, however this game obviously has issues
@cmdr101z8
@cmdr101z8 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeuk666 Full detail as intended for a 3090, a GPU 3x the cost of a whole console
@NikHem343
@NikHem343 2 жыл бұрын
In all due respect, but recommending the PS4 version for the PS5 feels just pointless to me. Tom also did that for Elden Ring. It’s like telling a PC owner with a 3080 that their game will run amazing on low settings. Nobody will accept that.
@evilformerlys4704
@evilformerlys4704 2 жыл бұрын
Aren't that many PC owners playing games that can afford a damn 3080, mofos lies all the time about what GPU they are running. Bulk are using 3070 or older GPU. Nobody will accept it but on PC a lot of players literally have choice but to accept using lower costing hardware. There aren't many who can fork out $1000 + for a GPU.
@codyw518
@codyw518 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@NikHem343
@NikHem343 2 жыл бұрын
@@evilformerlys4704 I think you missed my point
@byghostlight0
@byghostlight0 2 жыл бұрын
Its not pointless, you just dont see the point to it. They arent saying to play that way, merely reporting on the fact if you do play that way this is the difference you see.
@goonbag803
@goonbag803 2 жыл бұрын
it’s just like cyberpunk - should have never been developed with last gen in mind.. if they would have given the game a year’s worth of extra development time they could have justified omitting last gen consoles, too.
@sean7332
@sean7332 2 жыл бұрын
The graphics look worse in some areas then bfv
@mr.blonde7812
@mr.blonde7812 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe on console
@juhakauppi5894
@juhakauppi5894 2 жыл бұрын
BF5 was a polished game, this ain't. If you step inside a skyscraper you'll see why it's totally unpolished game.
@Archivist42
@Archivist42 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.blonde7812 but definitely on PC
@mattyork7625
@mattyork7625 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know. I still think the PS5 version of 2042 looks quite a bit better than the ps4 version of BFV. But BFV on a high end PC with raytracing looks completely unreal. I thought the game didn't really look all that impressive on PS4 aside from some effects like the way the snow particles interacted with the environment. Even killing people in the snow and the snow would kick up was pretty neat. Snow would even accumulate on your weapons in BFV, even blood. This isn't something you see in 2042. Overall 2042 does look better though. Trees and foliage have improved significantly, draw distance and obviously resolution are much improved. Same with the explosions looking pretty deadly with SO much more stuff going on at once. Sure, concessions had to be made given how much bigger the game is now but to say it flat out looks worse than last gen BFV, nah, I don't think so. I even think BF1 looked better visually over BFV
@akosbercel
@akosbercel 2 жыл бұрын
Fan said: dont worry the vrr fix everything. But what about if game still playable without vrr? if they called himself the world most powerful console?
@riceeater79
@riceeater79 2 жыл бұрын
It's weird that all these analysis channels used to compare ALL THREE versions AT THE SAME TIME to see the actual moment to moment performance differences between all systems (when Xbox Series X was winning most comparisons). But more and more, analysis guys are separating the versions making it difficult to get a real read on which system is performing best or worst in the same sections. Anyone else notice this?
@ihebmhamdi3451
@ihebmhamdi3451 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao reducing the player count from 128 to 64, massively downgrading the graphics aswell as getting smaller maps is HUGE price to pay for a 60fps lock. Idk why you're making it seem like it isn't. Anyways you can find the solution for that in the Portal mode instead of going through all of that hassle. Also you guys didn't mention the highest resolution on the Series S, which I assume would be 1440p? This tech breakdown just doesn't feel as indepth as the usual Digital Foundry video. The effort is appreciated and I'm sure you guys are busy with plenty of work on your hands. Just giving my two cents.
@RoganGunn
@RoganGunn 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they phoned this one in a bit, giving it to the new guy. There's a lot to cover here, and they kinda skimmed over it, and it looks like they used footage captured by other people too, probably patrons. (Which is fine, I'm sure they're extremely busy and not that enthused about Battlefield.) For me, BF is my one multiplayer game I play with friends, across platforms this time, and I'd have liked a deeper tech dive, and comparison to equivalent PC settings etc.
@codyw518
@codyw518 2 жыл бұрын
They got paid. DF can’t be trusted with the new guy.
@barters8124
@barters8124 2 жыл бұрын
Legit looks like a ps3 game half the time in my ps5. Textures just don’t load properly or rarely if they do.
@NikHem343
@NikHem343 2 жыл бұрын
I was so excited about this game that I downloaded BF4 again. After the beta, my hype dropped like a stone and I ultimately didn‘t get it. Really curious why people bought this and now feel shocked, it was all there in bright daylight
@splintex862
@splintex862 2 жыл бұрын
I love the game tbh. And I think a lot of people do. Although every one is crying on the internet, I still find lobby’s in seconds and the people enjoy the game. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@jasonofa3633
@jasonofa3633 2 жыл бұрын
Not worth the current price imo due to lack of content on the base game. Portal is fine, but progression is capped on it. EA play pro's the best bet if you want to try it right now.
@Robbie1179
@Robbie1179 2 жыл бұрын
Same. Really like the game
@FEWGEE1
@FEWGEE1 2 жыл бұрын
I was so dissapointed by this game, that I also downloaded BF4 again.
@MajdiJarrar
@MajdiJarrar 2 жыл бұрын
Because I'm dumb and didn't learn from the beta. I've always preordered every single BF game and never regretted it, sure I had concerns on some but overall experience was great and each provided hundreds of awesome gaming hours. I went all in with open mind into the beta and couldn't believe what they've done with this one especially on the specialists system and taking so many backwards steps in so many aspects but I said I need to give it another chance and I was dumb again. I played so far 26 hours and can't get myself to turn it on again because Everytime I do I just get bored and quit it in a mid of a match and can't get to push myself to finish it.
@90lancaster
@90lancaster 2 жыл бұрын
Many of the errors in this game existed in previous games - and really never got fixed, so I don't anticipate much being done to fix this one either. I think they are in serious danger of ending up preaching to the choir and not actually getting as many new players in as they might like as anyone who buys one of these "large marketing budget FPS" should realise they put more attention on promoting it than they did making it. In other words they are an example of the hollywoodisation of the videogame business models. In all honesty I can't think of a single reason to even play this even if it was free to play.
@clashicedelixir2187
@clashicedelixir2187 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly your comment is just embarrassing
@90lancaster
@90lancaster 2 жыл бұрын
@@clashicedelixir2187 I don't see why Digital Foundary said something very similar - implying that they release things "Broke" and fix them later. But you do you. As I said I won't be buying this game it offers nothing that interests me. (Same with Vanguard)
@kj2menez
@kj2menez 2 жыл бұрын
that’s awesome buddy. maybe you should put that much effort in something that will benefit you
@90lancaster
@90lancaster 2 жыл бұрын
@@kj2menez That was "no effort" that was a "throw away comment" silly.
@BeckerFlag
@BeckerFlag 2 жыл бұрын
SO another typical BF release. Doing stuff that sounds cool(128 player maps), but causes problems. Oh and plenty of bugs too. Wouldn't be a DICE release that doesn't have a bunch of those. I'll probably give it a try when it gets to EA Play. Hopefully it will be performing better with less bugs by then.
@Chickenhunter9
@Chickenhunter9 2 жыл бұрын
@3:00 It sounds like you’re getting the franchise confused with Call of Duty. Multiplayer has always been Battlefield’s bread and butter. Battlefield Bad Company Company 1 introduced a narrative driven campaign after the success of Call of Duty, which was primarily single-player focused up until Call of Duty 4.
@nickcorrado717
@nickcorrado717 2 жыл бұрын
I’m on series X and I consistently lose FPS, rubberband on open router and get a bunch of bugs…. Hit reg is by far the worst I’ve ever seen!!
@afteritsallsaidanddoneisti9285
@afteritsallsaidanddoneisti9285 2 жыл бұрын
You ever noticed the rockets fazing through enemy vehicles
@colinparks619
@colinparks619 2 жыл бұрын
Frame rate solid on the lg cx with vrr, even in 128 player, not noticing any drops at all with vrr
@evilformerlys4704
@evilformerlys4704 2 жыл бұрын
@Xbox Gaming Bet you got Halo infinite and that's just as broken as this but uglier and simpler. How are those microtransactions working out for ya?
@SixSioux
@SixSioux 2 жыл бұрын
@@evilformerlys4704 my god man if u sound butthurt! Lmao
@makman619
@makman619 2 жыл бұрын
@@evilformerlys4704 need some tissues?
@vsmKILLAS
@vsmKILLAS 2 жыл бұрын
You did not mention a massive stuttering on series x, freezing and shutting down, what did occured for me even after update.
@riceeater79
@riceeater79 2 жыл бұрын
It's weird that all these analysis channels used to compare *ALL THREE* versions *AT THE SAME TIME* to see the actual moment to moment performance differences between all systems (when Xbox Series X was clearly winning most comparisons). But more and more, analysis guys are separating the versions making it difficult to get a real read on which system is *performing best or worst in the same sections* . Channels are suddenly hiding DIRECT comparisons now.
@doxy6548
@doxy6548 2 жыл бұрын
Hey when you said you can install the xbox version on the series consoles it won't let me. When I try to download the xbox one version and click on it, it says I don't own the game and won't let me play it.
@lvl9704
@lvl9704 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. Just to clarify I can buy bf2042 on my xsx and download purchase and play that version I then have free access to the xbox one version which I can download and play my friends on last gen?
@DaveVoyles
@DaveVoyles 2 жыл бұрын
On PC I had to manually edit the configuration file to reduce the quality of shadows. That was a massive improvement in performance. I literally went from 20 frames per second with an RTX 3090, to 60+ I was also then able to unlock the ability to use dynamic resolutions. For some bizarre bug, I was unable to do it from the UI itself.
@Nick930
@Nick930 2 жыл бұрын
I have an rtx 3090 as well.. how tf are you getting only 20fps? I'm at a 4K resolution getting a minimum of 90fps at max settings. Are you using DLSS at all?
@mr.blonde7812
@mr.blonde7812 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nick930 either something is horribly awry with his build configuration, or he's lying 🤔
@DaveVoyles
@DaveVoyles 2 жыл бұрын
The options to enable DLSS or control the frame rate were grayed out for me. Like I said above, I had to edit the configuration file, which then allowed me to enable those features. Lots of discussion about this on Reddit. Look at the shadow settings for that configuration file for you as well. They are not exposed via the gameplay UI, so you can only adjust them in the file.
@Salty_Nutella
@Salty_Nutella 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nick930 I get 1080p 120+ fps (ovbiously with the dips and frametime issues) on a Ryzen 2700 + 2060 super using a custom config file. Hopefully OP isn't paring his 3090 with a shit CPU lol.
@edubockmann
@edubockmann 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nick930 dlss is bad for competitive games
@homerhat420
@homerhat420 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine expecting a satisfactory battlefield experience at launch.
@copevortex
@copevortex 2 жыл бұрын
BF1s launch wasn’t too bad AFAIK
@sants602
@sants602 2 жыл бұрын
@@copevortex it was buggy but not this crazy. I'm having fun with 2042 tho check it out. Dice usually fixes all these issues.
@mango40000
@mango40000 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, i guess expecting a mostly bug-free and finished game on launch is expecting too much these days
@codyw518
@codyw518 2 жыл бұрын
There was a campaign in BF1.
@sants602
@sants602 2 жыл бұрын
@@codyw518 it was trash
@Irrelevant_Interests
@Irrelevant_Interests 2 жыл бұрын
I have been setting my ps5 on 1080p whenever i play the game it runs way smother and really holds up against 4K graphics wise which only appears as a slightly sharper textures compared to 1080p.
@Lukasz3332x
@Lukasz3332x 2 жыл бұрын
the question is if it renders at 1080p without supersampling? With supersampling the burden on GPU would be similar as rendering in 4k.
@Irrelevant_Interests
@Irrelevant_Interests 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lukasz3332x don't know i might be just imagining it running better when it actually not.
@walterwhite2455
@walterwhite2455 2 жыл бұрын
@Digital Foundry Can you watch the new version again after the patch? I have the feeling they have downgraded the graphics and disabled some effects on XSX.
@thetroyzernator
@thetroyzernator 2 жыл бұрын
Bit of a click bait title. I don't think there was a single comparison between the two systems.
@chuckmayhem1991
@chuckmayhem1991 2 жыл бұрын
Ps5-1800p X-2025~p Both cant hold 60 in next gen native app in the 128 player mode. Settings are the ssme What else is there to compare?
@amirranjbar1995
@amirranjbar1995 2 жыл бұрын
I had my game preordered since August but refunded it less than 2 hours in the game, I was heartbroken
@NikHem343
@NikHem343 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly though, didn’t you see it coming with the beta and all?
@codyw518
@codyw518 2 жыл бұрын
It’s that bad.
@valoric4767
@valoric4767 2 жыл бұрын
Single player campaigns were NEVER traditional! They were introduced later and have always been to the detriment of the multiplayer experience. BF 2 and 2142 never had or needed a single player campaign. BF 3 and bad company started the trend of aping Call of Duty.
@GingerJamess
@GingerJamess 2 жыл бұрын
And those campaigns were good. Now, without a campaign, they can’t even make a functional multiplayer
@valoric4767
@valoric4767 2 жыл бұрын
@@GingerJamess only bad company was genuinely good. The rest were milquetoast. DICE have really lost their game in the last decade. However I doubt it’s even the devs fault. Probably horrific managers running the show into the ground.
@hughJ
@hughJ 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, BF2 and 2142 were the last PC Battlefield games that were developed before DICE was fully acquired by EA. After EA's acquisition they pivoted to console. That's when you get them trying to appeal to CoD's market and replicate its success. Single player campaigns, and simpler run-and-gun gameplay. Auto health regeneration, smaller squads, glowing sniper scopes, ability to spawn on anyone in your squad, etc. It's not the same franchise anymore, and DICE isn't quite the same studio either for that matter. I don't think EA/DICE today even know quite what Battlefield is anymore, or who exactly they're making it for. After they found a new generation of players (via BC1, BC2, BF3, and BF4) they've taken every opportunity to shake them loose with Battlefront 1/2, BF1, BFV, BF2042. Not that those are all necessarily bad games, it's just that they're all over the place -- everything from gameplay design, chasing industry fads, and who they seem to be marketing them to. Battlefield ought to be a franchise that fans should feel somewhat comfortable pre-ordering and/or lining up to buy day 1, and instead it's the textbook example for why you shouldn't.
@Captain-Chats
@Captain-Chats 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly dont think this game looks that graphicly good. The textures look very smoothed out. I also think releasing this game undercooked is NOT acceptable! such a shame as i was really looking forward to this
@majesticcamels4198
@majesticcamels4198 2 жыл бұрын
Bfv looks better
@codyw518
@codyw518 2 жыл бұрын
It looks awful.
@e2rqey
@e2rqey 2 жыл бұрын
BFV and BF1 looked better and ran better
@simonmoon9164
@simonmoon9164 2 жыл бұрын
Not alot of personality in this video and I'm not sure what game he was reviewing, my experience on ps5 is very different 🤔
@riceeater79
@riceeater79 2 жыл бұрын
It's weird that all these analysis channels used to compare ALL THREE versions AT THE SAME TIME to see the actual moment to moment performance differences between all systems (when Xbox Series X was winning most comparisons). But more and more, analysis guys are separating the versions making it difficult to get a real read on which system is performing best or worst in the same sections. Have you noticed this?
@AdamsRandomYTAccount
@AdamsRandomYTAccount 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, so as someone that has been watching DF longer than I can remember, I have to ask... Am I the only one who thinks the video feels incredibly biased like it is trying to hide all the bad things about the game? Not only did this "technical analysis" take ages to get to the point, unlike many of their other tech analysis videos, but when it came to the analysis, it felt dry, underplayed and like they were in denial of what they are seeing. This whole video felt like a sponsored segment or some damn near propaganda haha. I am not sure what is going on but usually DF is quite objective with their videos and data and would call a 20+ FPS drop unacceptable, but they didn't even really mention it here. The horrendous bugs and unplayable state of the game was also severely underplayed. I am just so disappointed in DF with this video. You guys are better than this. Honestly, it feels like they are playing a completely different game from me, because everything I'm experiencing is very severe and proper depressing. I'm obviously not the only one either, given the fan outrage around this game. Like has DF been hacked again and this is the hacker's video, or they are held hostage and forced to make this video 🤣? Honestly, if you need help DF, blink twice haha
@MJTH
@MJTH 2 жыл бұрын
I get the feeling that since this is quite a short video that only focuses on current gen consoles, we’ll probably get a follow up video by Alex focusing on the technical aspects of the game. I wouldn’t be surprised if there is more of a discussion on bugs instability there. I also feel like Oliver still needs a bit more time to get into the groove of his new position in the team. He is quite stiff in his delivery and seems on the less critical in his analysis. Room for improvement, but these are things he will get better at with time. I recently watched some of Johns early DF retro videos on the channel and the way his production and voice delivery has improved is night and day.
@riceeater79
@riceeater79 2 жыл бұрын
It's weird that all these analysis channels used to compare ALL THREE versions AT THE SAME TIME to see the actual moment to moment performance differences between all systems (when Xbox Series X was clearly winning most comparisons). But more and more, analysis guys are separating the versions making it difficult to get a real read on which system is performing best or worst in the same sections. Have you noticed this?
@e2rqey
@e2rqey 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed calling this game a "qualifed success" is just ridiculous. Lots of issues were ignored, minimized or justified.
@lordspalse0062
@lordspalse0062 2 жыл бұрын
Please John what is on the physical ps5 disc and in this game in general for offline gamers? Also, can we play portal mode without psplus? Thanks a lot sir.
@ambro2786
@ambro2786 2 жыл бұрын
What? This is a multiplayer only title. You can play with bots but only with PS Plus Also this video clearly wasn’t made by John. Did you even watch the video
@nicobenji0248
@nicobenji0248 2 жыл бұрын
Severe lack of discussion about all the other technical issues. Like hit registration, bugs, etc. Come on DF. You can do better than that...
@LingDingKing
@LingDingKing 2 жыл бұрын
I’m happy to see that the series s has really good graphics while keeping a resolution above 1080p and a locked 60fps, besides the random frame drops. I swear the more time developers have with the series s the more these new games amaze me.
@MitchWebb94
@MitchWebb94 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting they’ve locked 4k when the frame rate isnt there; always baffles me that they optimise this way, when the vast majority of people would notice the frame rate dips over a dip in resolution to say 1800p
@stevegordon3856
@stevegordon3856 2 жыл бұрын
They didn't, it's dynamic1, with PS5 going down to 1800p and XSX 2016p. The dynamic resolution bounds need adjusting though.
@DubElementMusic
@DubElementMusic 2 жыл бұрын
i play o 1440p, always, even with a 3080
@adrianhosein7698
@adrianhosein7698 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevegordon3856 he said it doesn't go down that often though, so it's mostly at 4k on both machines.
@tyler328
@tyler328 2 жыл бұрын
So the seires S doesn't drop below 1080p ? Like it did in the beta
@DrJones20
@DrJones20 2 жыл бұрын
It drops to 810p at the lowest according to vg tech.
@hessamtoossi2559
@hessamtoossi2559 2 жыл бұрын
Im so used to hearing Alex, John, and Tom that hearing a new voice on these videos is a little unsettling :)
@hessamtoossi2559
@hessamtoossi2559 2 жыл бұрын
@AzenStreams yeah he does a little
@Daniel-yz3zf
@Daniel-yz3zf 2 жыл бұрын
It's the way he says "of course"... reminds me of John massively
@codyw518
@codyw518 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t like it.
@noneofyourbusiness9353
@noneofyourbusiness9353 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think they’ll ever be able to improve the performance on the series x with a patch? There’s fps drops everywhere.
@jasonarauz007
@jasonarauz007 2 жыл бұрын
Ps5 is holding the Xbox back...🙄
@noobdebusca1757
@noobdebusca1757 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonarauz007 LMAO
@mareo187
@mareo187 2 жыл бұрын
Nah they need to bring back all the core features that made every BF great before they make the patch
@ThePoisonDwarf1
@ThePoisonDwarf1 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonarauz007 catering for last gen is holding everything back PS5 and series X very little difference
@johnster327
@johnster327 2 жыл бұрын
How long do you play for? I've heard there are memory leak issues so the longer you play the worse performance will get. Try restarting your game every like hour or so.
@lax78723
@lax78723 2 жыл бұрын
This guy doesn't seem to do a lot of side by side comparisons when it comes to fps. Why is that?
@M8Military
@M8Military 2 жыл бұрын
Super duper hard to do with battlefield online
@mayman3310
@mayman3310 2 жыл бұрын
You can't play 1 match simultaneously through 2 consoles, and there's no campaign
@phil_75
@phil_75 2 жыл бұрын
Xbox must be losing, can't have that, Uncle Phil won't be happy
@TheBean87
@TheBean87 2 жыл бұрын
@@phil_75 stupidity award goes to you sir.
@Pete-vz5uj
@Pete-vz5uj 2 жыл бұрын
It's cause he goes with the Boots on the ground approach
@exmerion
@exmerion 2 жыл бұрын
If they ever fix the frame stutter this game will have better performance than past games on base consoles. Bf4/1/5 had consistent drops to low 40s high 30s in fps on ps4/xbone. the "pro" consoles had more stable performance in BFV though.
@user-rm4uv8vc3u
@user-rm4uv8vc3u 2 жыл бұрын
my xsx got fps frozen problem every time on ship teardown map.
@1983Dave1983
@1983Dave1983 2 жыл бұрын
EA/Dice should have done what 343 did with Halo Infinite; push it back & give it a make over. I've played both MP on series X & Halo Infinite is far more enjoyable
@NickthaGeek
@NickthaGeek 2 жыл бұрын
Dice have never released a great game day one. They have needed community to adjust the game. They openly admited they dont know what they did to make their best fames great. They also have ea pulling their bollocks to keep the shareholders happy. They dont care if the game is good. Just about getting money. Then theres 343 who have ms above them. They are more interested in creating a legacy with this franchise. Granted they still want money. They would rather have " THE JUGGERNAUT " Game that everyone talks about with praise though. They already have the money.
@codyw518
@codyw518 2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@Usualcarnage
@Usualcarnage 2 жыл бұрын
Wish someone would make MAG 2
@Kaspar_Houser
@Kaspar_Houser 2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@Wegaloh
@Wegaloh 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see why you would have to download the last-gen versions to play 64 player matches when you can play that or anything else you want in Portal? I also don't see why the maps or playlists should be moved out of Portal into the “main game”, as you put it, either. Portal is just as much the main game, but with options to do whatever you want. My #1 issue was the rubberbanding and that got solved completely after the prox sensor fixes, but i'm on PC and maybe it's different on console.
@HarpoTheLynx
@HarpoTheLynx 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanna go back to Battlefield 1 feel
@andrewkappler5503
@andrewkappler5503 2 жыл бұрын
I play it every day still good size amounts of servers
@codyw518
@codyw518 2 жыл бұрын
Not happening. Dice is a shell of its former self.
@that-guy213
@that-guy213 2 жыл бұрын
same bf1 did everything right the feeling and sound design is next level fire fights feels and sound amazing i feel like im actually in the fight in bf2042 the performance and sound design are so bad sound especially lacks any umphhh it just sounds tinny and hollow
@Katsudon96
@Katsudon96 2 жыл бұрын
after a fair few hours on PS5... no framedrop spikes like shown above on the Xbox Series X NONE AT ALL. The issues i have are the Network issues like you have mentioned. FPS drops are only a couple max which is fine, never below 58fps while playing 128 player modes. however the game has issues with unbalanced weapons, glitches, bugs, broken gameplay and physics like flying a hover craft for a KM without touching the floor... DICE did not test this game, and i find that the Beta was better gameplay wise even if it was more broken.
@UltraCasualPenguin
@UltraCasualPenguin 2 жыл бұрын
Happens when you use 1080p screen and disable supersampling on PS5.
@Katsudon96
@Katsudon96 2 жыл бұрын
@@UltraCasualPenguin Um? i have a 1080p screen and don't have supersampling turned on.
@UltraCasualPenguin
@UltraCasualPenguin 2 жыл бұрын
@@Katsudon96 Okay, show me place that still sells ancient tech.
@berdel
@berdel 2 жыл бұрын
Why is no one talking about the flocks of seagulls that look like they come from a transformers movie?? 😂 its one of the most distracting and worst vfx I’ve seen in a game
@kimsoderholm9101
@kimsoderholm9101 Жыл бұрын
I really want to know what graphics settings the consoles are using. Is it maxed out or at medium to low settings? A gtx 1060 gets around 60 fps at low to medium settings and i dont believe the series S is more powerful than that, or is it? I cant even game with that resolution on a gtx 1060 in bf 2042.
@zalankhan5743
@zalankhan5743 Жыл бұрын
It must be a Mixture of Maybe like low-High, but a lot at like medium and High
@zalankhan5743
@zalankhan5743 Жыл бұрын
Plus Consoles May have Some Extra Optimization
@sinahtml
@sinahtml 2 жыл бұрын
Dear DF, Pleas consider using a simple graphical representation for your resolution numbers, alongside the xxxxp numbers. Something like those rectangles inside one another used to demonstrate how a smaller Full HD picture would compare to a 4K image or the schematics used to compare different camera sensor sizes and aspect ratios.
@itsWelshy
@itsWelshy 2 жыл бұрын
It's not as cut and dry as that. DRS often only reduces either vertical or horizontal resolution so the visualisation your suggesting is neither helpful or accurate in delivering information unfortunately.
@jamezxh
@jamezxh 2 жыл бұрын
Bit hard to apply that With DRS
@Paulypies
@Paulypies 2 жыл бұрын
I quite like this idea, just to give a visual representation of the range. Not unlike a percentage of the scale. When there’s a lot of numbers being thrown around, a different way to visualise these would be nice.
@JorisKeijser
@JorisKeijser 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsWelshy That's the best part. It would show how much you are stretching the resolution to get back to 16:9. How much anamorphic stuff is going on. Seeing RDR2 on PS4 Pro at 8:9 would give a good sense of the resolution loss.
@UltraCasualPenguin
@UltraCasualPenguin 2 жыл бұрын
Full HD (1920x1080) is exactly 25% (¼) of 3840x2160. It's not that difficult.
@guyfarting1373
@guyfarting1373 2 жыл бұрын
Who tf is this guy on DF? Has he looked at bf1 on a base ps4 compared to this?
@Nick-tl7ts
@Nick-tl7ts 2 жыл бұрын
Chosing to play the PS4 version on a PS5 sounds hardly like good news lol
@codyw518
@codyw518 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Taijifufu
@Taijifufu 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what can be done about the rubber banding if it's been around for so long.
@leogets2006
@leogets2006 2 жыл бұрын
That's server side. Nothing to do with the machines
@mtdubdachamp6917
@mtdubdachamp6917 2 жыл бұрын
When the game works it works.. I barely notice frame dips and when I do its maybe 2 or 3 frames but only on all out war.. portal and hazard zone is stable and somehow looks better than 128 modes. This game should've released in march or april cause it needs alot of work and personally while I'm not a fan of their campaigns they should've added one. Especially when you consider that the map selection is weak. Lack of destruction really makes the game feel weak also. Miss taking an rpg and blowing up a big ass building and the opponent's die in debris.
@pompeymacca28
@pompeymacca28 2 жыл бұрын
So this is a multiplayer only game with broken multiplayer.
@Xrey56Cheyz
@Xrey56Cheyz 2 жыл бұрын
Dislike. That was a not a technical review of the game from Digital Foundry, it was a common review of "Good Battlefield 2042" with occasional comments on FPS and net code. "The visuals here are attractive", like, seriously? The game looks like shit. I paid 70 bucks and got graphics worse than BF5. And whats with that "the graphical downgrade isnt too bad" when suggesting the lastgen version? No, it is too bad. You yourself listed a freaking bunch of huge downgrades a second later. I am hugely dissappointed with this video. Sadly there is no dislike count, I'd like to see how many people think the same.
@riceeater79
@riceeater79 2 жыл бұрын
It's weird that all these analysis channels used to compare ALL THREE versions AT THE SAME TIME to see the actual moment to moment performance differences between all systems (when Xbox Series X was winning most comparisons). But more and more, analysis guys are separating the versions making it difficult to get a real read on which system is performing best or worst in the same sections. Anyone else notice this?
@supermadkid
@supermadkid 2 жыл бұрын
I would bet the freezes and framerate drops are because of dx12. All previous dx12 battlefield games have that exact same problem on PC with dx12 enabled.
@TheL1arL1ar
@TheL1arL1ar 2 жыл бұрын
Possibly…halo infinite on my laptop has these spikes in multiplayer…
@MrMikeTheDude
@MrMikeTheDude 2 жыл бұрын
Game drops to 40 FPS, this guy:"this is a success for the most part" WHAT???
@codyw518
@codyw518 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah who tf is the new guy.
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