Battlefield 4 | An Obligated Inclusion | 2021 Review

[@Greytechsy]

My headcanon why Recker never says anything in the game is just that he doesn't know how to speak English at all. I can maybe even support this claim. In the first mission when Recker checks his mag and sees that it's empty you can hear a sigh and directly after it kinda sounds like he says "Fan" under his breath. Fan means damn in Swedish. So Recker's a Swedish soldier that lied that he knew English and got himself becoming a spy and is just faking everything. Some real Ciaphas Cain shit.

[@Greytechsy]

@Faerûnian Lol nice copypasta

[@guts4347]

fellow struggler

[@TheKsenpai]

you get a 69th like from me for that comment.

[@jerbs5346]

No, the reason why games make you mute is so you can feel more connected to the protagonist that you're playing as, of course, that doesn't make any sense. It does for rpgs, but not for, fps or action games.

[@nicholasschmidt2864]

You forgot to mention the best parts about the campaign: if you take too long to select a squadmate on the suicide mission to blow up Chang, Chang destroys your battleship and all three of you just stare awkwardly at each other until the screen fades to black.

[@JJJBunney001]

Best ending IMO

[@doomfeast1102]

I'm just waiting to see how rogue Telvanni mages figure into this modern warfare story.

[@sagivalia5041]

Who do you think conjured the EMP?

[@CaleebTalib]

I’ve watched your Morrowind review like 3 times your voice is like butter my man

[@planescaped]

The Morrowind review is like a fuzzy, warm blanket in video form.

[@rukusrasputin4290]

You may also like Noah Caldwell Gervais. He is more philosophical than critical but long form and insightful.

[@ahbh4348]

lunatic

[@TheMoinomedian]

@@rukusrasputin4290 Thanks for the recommendation, homie.

[@rukusrasputin4290]

@@TheMoinomedian The one on Planescape : Torment is long but worth it.

[@CornThatLefty]

Hiya, game dev here. Speculation about first person animation scaling ahead: First person view models are rendered on a separate layer from the game world - this is how most developers get around weapon models clipping through walls when you're close. Forcing a wide FOV for the camera also stretches your view model. When another character hands you an item, the item is not stretched in the same way, as it's animated on a separate layer. Arguably bad practice to do it this way, but when the boss wants something, you figure out how to make it work. (I should also note that this is the reason why most games have characters throw things to you, put items on a table first, etc. I would imagine the lack of an FOV slider was specifically because of these issues.)

[@matcauthon9669]

I still find it amazing that the same team that made the Bad Company squad can drop in such quality to a handful of forgettable NPCs who are cardboard cutouts of the concept of characters than actual characters.

[@alexandrivt]

The field of view problem is due to the fov of your first person model remaining at the standard fov, making your hands look much bigger than they are. It's probably due to flawless widescreen not modifying that value.

[@the643212816]

This. Player's hands/weapons are often rendered separately and overlaid onto the screen, probably to prevent them from clipping into level geometry. If the mod altered their fov as well, you'd be able to see much more of your character's arms, and the iron sights would also be considerably scaled down, as if seen from further away. Not good for aiming. (this probably also means that the PC's arms are not in fact fully modeled)

[@Geferulf_TAS]

I still play BF4 multiplayer nearly every week, 7 years later. It's a fantastic game and blows 1/V out of the water. Campaign wise tho? I really like it storywise, honestly. Not the characters themselves, but the Tom Clancy-esque plot of China v the States with rogue generals and what-not. Great video! You do wonderful analysis.

[@Maggerama]

These FOV shenanigans sure made the video even more entertaining.

[@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it]

i like the blue tint in bf3 ,bf 4 and bf hardline. its like they are a trilogy games with that color palette

[@miller42]

6:30 I remember dying over and over at that same sequence because despite taking the grenade launcher and shooting at the helicopter, it did no damage. Apparently the smart devs at DICE Sweden expected me to wait until the black irish man told me to shoot.

[@planescaped]

Scary bad guys checklist for uninspired military shooters Russians: Again? Middle Easterners: Eh... maybe North Korea: Backfired on that one game Aliens: Put a pin in it. Chinese: Bingo _types furiously_

[@jeanpaulgartier3404]

IDF?

[@JoshuaJacobs83]

@@jeanpaulgartier3404 He said bad guys. Not “People I don’t like because I admire Hitler”

[@markdavis180]

@@jeanpaulgartier3404 only time I've seen the IDF as a possible enemy faction in an FPS is Project Reality

[@jarredlucas4000]

@@JoshuaJacobs83 ethnostates are inherently at odds with the rest of the word, to purport otherwise would be foolish.

[@JoshuaJacobs83]

@@jarredlucas4000 In your opinion. Funny how everyone has them

[@surobyk]

That "Iran" is actually part of China where Uyghurs live

[@5000Seabass]

The reason the scale is fucked up by FOV is because your view model size scales with your FOV. Your hands and whatever you’re holding in your hands don’t exist anywhere in the game except for on your screen and it’s not really to scale with the rest of the world already, so if you mess with any settings I could imagine it would really mess with things. It’s very regular in first person shooters to have a much more detailed view model for your person that only you can see.

[@petrhanke8644]

Agent Kovik: hey we do not have the right tools to save those poor sailors who are going to drown, so let's just leave them there although one good aimed headshot would at least save them from misery... That was the worst part in that campaign.

[@saltyshrimppasta]

To be fair, you’d be court martialed for murder if you did that

[@petrhanke8644]

@@saltyshrimppasta i don't think so. That carrier was sinking, could not be dragged into port for repairs, rescue teams could not be sent, those sailors were locked and their room was quickly filling with water. I think that the Admiral would say something like "there was nothing else you could do then to save them from suffering before drowning, you made the best decision in very bad situation."

[@saltyshrimppasta]

@@petrhanke8644 Yes and that’s called mercy killing, which as far as the DoD is concerned is murder. You’d also need to explain to those families “yes, they decided to shoot your husband to prevent him from drowning,” which by itself is grounds for a MASSIVE lawsuit

[@petrhanke8644]

@@saltyshrimppasta oh damn it sorry, I didn't know that but I made some research and I am really surprised that even if the person injured beyond saving asks for a mercy kill it still counts as a murder. My bad.

[@saltyshrimppasta]

@@petrhanke8644 Yeah it's something that I don't fully understand myself (especially in video games like Metro Exodus giving you negative karma for mercy killing dying enemies, but positive karma for killing the healthy ones), but I think it's the mentality that "you can't guarantee they would have died" sort of thing.

[@Liam-B]

I love that so many people from multiple generations are going back to play games like Oblivion, Battlefield 4, CoD: Black Ops, and Red Orchestra 2, Arma II Battle Royale, and Arma II DayZ mod. It actually shows that players are craving more from games, even if the old games can be a borkt mess.

[@PrivateSessions]

I'd really like to see a modern military shooter with a story along the lines of Jarhead or Generation Kill:-a much closer slice-of-life sort of thing: what life is like inside an active combat zone and how actual soldiers and actual civilians deal with actual levels of modern warfare, which is not at all what CoD and BF portray in the slightest. Failing that, because that would probably be way too "real" for any sensible publisher, I'd at least like a good psychological thriller plot like Apocalypse Now. Just something, anything that is genuinely thought-provoking and not meant to be emotion-bait. With that said, I really gotta play Spec Ops: The Line one of these days.

[@lewispoma5257]

"But they made an attempt, and really, what more can you ask for?" A good game. With something new. Maybe not a military shooter.

[@tohruadachi9767]

"A good game" Woah there... that's already way too much to ask from a big triple A company.

[@planescaped]

How about an open world survival crafting soulslike co-op military shooter? That's good right? ~ Ea exec. Coming summer 2022! Shootbang Adventures: Reloaded Redemption Rising - Requiem of Revenge

[@JJJBunney001]

What do you expect from a game called "BATTLEFIELD". Not sure about you but I like my battlefields to be fought over by soldiers

[@alpharedhed4446]

But battlefield is a military shooter? Would you want Zelda to be a first person linear shooter? No so let a series know for doing something do that thing

[@calebduke2832]

Having done some programming of FPS Cameras and animation, my guess is that they’re rendering the player’s hands and guns on a separate layer, almost as if it were UI; this way the weapon will never stick through level geometry. However, this means they could be scaling the hands in the same way they’d scale the UI as well, keeping it at constant size in relation to the camera, but not to the world.

[@tenbeat]

It's called weapon FOV and it is possible to change. I'm sure someone has made a mod with Frostbite tools for it. Edit: Just went and looked and nope, no mods, which is both surprising (since Mirror's Edge Catalyst has so many) and not, because the game is heavily multiplayer focused. Oh well.

[@abyss9316]

It's nice to see somebody analyzing past Battlefield campaigns your videos are great man that Morrowind video is so enthralling from the get-go to this day I have not watched a long 5 + our KZbin video as many times as I have watched yours truly a masterpiece that will live on forever as the definitive Morrowind KZbin experience thank you keep up the good work man

[@traqsoot]

I wasn't fond of how 3 weapons in multiplayer were locked behind beating the last mission 3 separate times. Very tedious.

[@anonimus370]

Hope to see a review of Bad Company from you. The story from the second one wasn't as good as the first one, thou I might misremember as the first game is x-box exclusive. But the destruction there was one of my favorite, second only to Red Faction: Guerilla .

[@hankerbanker6]

Great Review as always. honestly though, More devs should take notes from Spec Ops: the line, Sure gameplay isn't great, but The story really hits differently Compared to other generic military stories like Russia and china bad, America good.

[@EmilyKimMartin]

Even Black Ops: Cold War managed to do something different recently. I'd argue the CIA are the real bad guys and the soviet ending is not only the best ending in the game, but also the best ending in the entire Call of Duty franchise and should've been the canon ending.

[@saltyshrimppasta]

I recently started playing BF4 again. I still love this game.

[@dominikseljan3043]

Same man, multiplayer is super fun!

[@corwyn-corduroy]

This video is the first I've heard of you doing an Oblivion review. I just found your channel about a week ago through the 2 hour Morrowind review, so I'm very excited for the Oblivion one! I also really like the rest of your reviews, even the ones for games I would never play (like shooters) - you have a good way of explaining things!

[@KenTails]

3:04 Those are some massive hands

[@zakariyaahmed8077]

5:40, your comment about lighting I think hit the nail why I find some Quake 2 games are more appealing for me to look at: the colored lighting/shadows add a lot to the aesthetic, while bad lighting irks me.

[@Dyno_98]

Recker only has a revolver as his handgun because it was given to him by Dunn before dying on the first mission, if I remember right. That's what you use to shoot the car windows.

[@alexanderthemagnifcent2573]

I would like to hear your throughs on Darkness 1

[@TAGER_321]

I completely forgot that I played the whole campaign.

[@varvarith3090]

0:54 Wow, i guessed the song right from just 0.3 seconds and a single note.

[@warrockown44]

Turn around

[@luisvillarroel3543]

My feb was mostly average up to the end, where I got my first job doing what I went to college for. I'm now working as an english teacher for a local school. Week's been crazy. Anyways this campaign sucks balls man

[@TheWormsHole]

Your videos are really well written.

[@michaelsands2356]

I'm not in the US Navy nor any armed forces but I swear the US navy likes to chuck suppressors on their SBR's, the idea being when you shoot 5.56 or 7.62 in a hallway made out of steel it makes a fuck load of noise, so any way to prevent ear bleed is preferred. (Yes I'm aware they wear ear protection too but mag dumping down a metal hallway with your SR-25 doesn't sound like fun.)

[@csabaszabo6859]

if I remember correctly it not explained how Dima ended up in a chinese gulag in the BF3 book

[@shanweeboy]

This game acted like there were no other countries besides america, russia, and china. Like there were other places outside of those countries, but they are treated like the pan-asian front from 1984. This place that gets invaded and switches hands periodically. You can see this in how despite it being china declaring war on america, they start invading egypt.....

[@solutionless123]

FEAR would look very nice in this engine

[@Largentina.]

FEAR already looks very nice in the Lith Tech engine. Unless you play it on consoles.

[@gusfring8451]

The beginning is meant to show how they care about each other. Then again, it isn’t the best option to make for an intro..

[@spongekeks]

Great video, i enjoyed watching it!

[@punishedsneed]

I have to disagree about 4 having a better campaign than 3. Yes, they try to flesh out the characters more in 4, but 4 feels samey and ruined a very interesting character from 3, Dima. 3's story has more finality to it at the end as you're left to ponder all the lives of your friends lost in an attempt to foil a nuclear attack. You get a good monologue from Dima. Sure, there's more vehicle sequences, but I found all the environments in 3 to be more than satisfactory even if linear. Otherwise, I fully agree with you.

[@GaiaGoddessOfTheEarth]

Only reason I played campaign was for guns in multiplayer since you get a different gun depending on who you sacrifice.

[@kingscrump]

I played Battlefield 4 into the ground when I was younger. The multiplayer was so good. HOWEVER, I beat the campaign on the hardest difficulty and never unlocked the P90. After I tried to go back, all of my saved data was gone and I would have to start the whole game over. No thanks.

[@HerKneeUgh]

Just finished this game for the first time a few days ago and actually enjoyed it. Played Hardline earlier today and already uninstalled.

[@rukusrasputin4290]

Dishwasher : Dead Samurai when?

[@Patrician]

You're the first person to request that, I'll add it to the list.

[@rukusrasputin4290]

@@Patrician Excellent! I look forward to it!

[@surobyk]

You should play reboot of Medal of Honor. I have yet to see worse campaign in modern military shooter. Nothing works in there

[@kevinmajorca]

That "supper current" bug almost made me stop playing XD. Tried to swim through it for like an eternity and it left quite the sour taste in my mouth. I miss the old school of fun single player that wasn't a tech demo. Though Dice never had that to begin with.

[@theiconicprodigy1736]

Never played battlefield 4, looks fun though.

[@BUBBA808]

The original soundtrack in BF4 though is so good

[@Stalker6622]

The premise hits a little to close to Home these days 🤣😅

[@user-vf4oh1pd9t]

Will you be covering Death of the Outsider?

[@Cyfaeras]

I don't know if anybody else has mentioned this, but you saying that an EMP wouldn't be visible as "it's a blast of electromagnetic energy" is... well, it's dumb. Light is on the EM spectrum, between 400-750nm (this is off the top of my head). Beyond this, an EMP doesn't necessarily have to be electro-magnetic, it can be either a very strong electric or magnetic field (shut up about maxwell's equations I know it won't be purely one or the other but one form will dominate the energy) or it can be actual EM radiation, a wave made up of both. Obviously I'm not expecting you to do university level physics but you pulled up the paper so I figured I'd mention it, even if I am 2 years late to the party.

[@bigmclargehuge8219]

Not at all what I expected your next video to be, but it was great!

[@Guitar-Dog]

Automatic like for the coolest dude on KZbin

[@therobustmole1137]

Levolution and building destruction are 2 different things, try blowing up walls in MP

[@limerick9146]

Damn, youtube didnt let me know this came out.

[@nat040496]

I loved BF4 (not as much as BF3) but the story was so forgettable and horrid that i literally never unlocked the P90. I got the M249 from picking one ending and never brought myself to play it again. I literally forgot the singleplayer existed for years

[@MKhrome]

Load a save right before the choice. Then choose accordingly. No need to go through the campaign again for the other two weapons ;)

[@nat040496]

@@MKhrome yeah in hindsight i should have done that, but at this point i dont see a reason to. BF6 should be out this year so i dont see myself going back to BF4. BF3 is better anyway

[@Justin-rq6kf]

Still wonder why Pac wears 5 diffrent flags

[@voicedrewxyz]

Good video

[@duitk]

Yeah battlefield has not done good campaigns in a while, bf4 is still played to this day though, it had some good staying power when it comes to the multiplayer. For 2042 they devs went all out for the multiplayer but dropped single player , makes sense since they suck at making campaigns might as well stick to their strengths.

[@labrat5457]

Sad to see how 2042 turned out however, rip.

[@anrgyauburn6723]

I put my baseball glove in the freezer as a kid. Felt nasty putting it back on

[@RoddHoward]

Man, I remembered absolutely hating how whiny and annoying Irish, so much so I totally overlooked a lot of the other issues the game presented when they gave me the option to send him to his death. My main frustration came in the form of the fact this only occurs right at the very end 😕

[@VisariDaBst]

I blame the FoV on a rogue Telvanni lol

[@tras500]

honey wake up it's the morrowind man

It was fun to speedrun

[@baller42061]

Anyone else enjoys the battlefield campaigns for some dumb fun

[@alexanderthemagnifcent2573]

There only one party in China why couldn’t the game just say head the progressive faction of the CCP. From my understanding factions in the Chinese Communist Party function like party’s.

[@InternetTAB]

I feel like you just attacked Ash_on_LoL on a personal level lmao all of her vids show a bit near the middle in the beginning "too many scripted scene for- COMMERCIAL* I try hard to support people but jeez that's an early ad break... I can only assume 8+ more?

[@Patrician]

Not being particular, I've see several channels do it. I actually cut a bit that was more critical of my own work that had the punchline of calling for an adbreak, mostly because the joke wasn't landing right. So you're basically seeing the remnants of that. There also shouldn't be any preroll ads so I don't consider that to be early.

[@buckeyebeliever3397]

Goodness this game was such a drag. I tried to replay it last year and lost interest before finishing

[@Bliblie]

Oh, so you can’t dedicate seven and a half hours to Battlefield 4?

[@stanalbatross8615]

But bf4 single player IS just a substandart modern military shooter.

[@cellarorcs4190]

i 100% disagree with bf4s campaign being better than bf3. i thought bf4 was laughable and entirely unrealistic.

[@RegularCody]

BF3 multiplayer was better but that might just be nostalgia talking

[@kwazhims3lf]

"wheres my dam burrito" "ya, meals ready to eat dummy" "wheres my dam coffee" typical, banal, focus tested girl boss cringe bf4

[@emperorarkoos2919]

Yeah the single plain is shiy

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

Can confirm, you fall through the boat regardless of FOV. It happened to me on Xbone. I’m playing through all the battlefields and this shit game didnt record my progress in the campaign - putting me full LEVELS back. So it’s the first game I’m skipping, not as buggy as Battlefield V, which froze multiple times and gave me reliable UI weapon switching bugs, but it’s still pretty shit. Sorry Michael K. Williams, not even your presence can save this shitshow.

[@sinniebinnie]

pogpogpogpog

[@512TheWolf512]

this game is just so painfully horrible... and buggy, so buggy, it's just painful. and played the campaign in 2019!!

[@tripple-a6031]

Battlefield 4 multiplayer was NOT an improvement over Battlefield 3, quite the opposite in fact, it was so much worse that it wasn't even playable.

[@renegadeguy2340]

I don't understand who would care about the SP of the game, especially in 2021. Who is this video for?

[@surobyk]

Someone who doesn't chase trends?

[@Momohhhhhh]

As long as there are stories designed to be consumed by massive amounts of people, there will (and should) be critiques of those stories. And if those stories are bad and the critiques entertaining, then all the better. Don't forget, even if the final opinion for most people is "whatever, I just got it for the multiplayer," that thousands of hours of work went into creating a single player campaign for this game. It might be filler to many consumers but it wasn't to the people who were making it. That makes it as ripe a subject for analysis as anything else. I'm not sitting down to watch this video because I need a second opinion on whether to purchase Battlefield 4, I'm watching because I find the breakdown and analysis interesting. If you were asking earnestly, then there's your answer.

[@renegadeguy2340]

@@Momohhhhhh but he is stating nothing that others haven't already said years and years ago. For a critique of a wildly popular product to be relevant after the product itself has become fairly irrelevant in most people's eyes it has to say something new in my opinion