Battleship Positioning - The Push Timing Example #1 - Bajie

Moving on to the next logical step of understanding positioning, understanding when and how to push into the enemy. When is it beneficial and potentially game winning, and when is it just plain suicide?
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[@Flamuu]

By the way, here's a pre-emptive list of ships I'd planned to give away upon reaching 100k subs, what do you think? twitter.com/flamuchz/status/1269740081767686144 Stream: www.twitch.tv/flamuu Insta: instagram.com/flamugram/ Twitter: twitter.com/flamuchz Discord: discord.gg/Flamu

[@beepboop9268]

How can we win one of these?

[@grandadmiralraeder9608]

Looks good. But how to win one?

[@rildain76]

Free ships always sound good!

[@blubblub9489]

Flamu I dare you to make a battleship positioning guide for German BBs on the map Two Brothers

[@grimmshredsanguinus2915]

hahahahaahahahahahahah i think u must pay him with doubloons for that

[@arlingo]

Mid rush

[@ErulianADRaghath]

SPESHUL!!

[@samleake2528]

COWABUNGA IT IS.

[@crevieauxquentin9657]

Flamu on German bb's? Considering he says GK is crap and that its primary range is a problem, I'm not sure it's a good thing to wish him to play the brawler.

[@Diisonbravo]

Great work Flamu having so much more fun with BBs now.

[@-Spartan-Lifestyle-]

Yeap, all 3 parts of this guide are great!

[@Ace42x]

Smoke-blapping guide is tops, whiney Smolensk accused me of hacking when I blind dev-striked him. Got any advice for working around battleship guns that love to Overpen (Alsace, Richelieu / Gasgogne, Roma, I'd put Izumo in there too, maybe some of the KM)? They seem to be "bounce off the front / overpen through the broadside" disaster areas. I end up ignoring a lot of the more troublesome cruisers in favour of shooting battleships because at least on the latter I know my shells will arm; that or I go for the gun turrets if close enough to hit them - but that's nowhere near as satisfying as getting those citadels.

[@Jez3134]

Everytime I disable their turrets, something triggers in BB players minds and they always go for the ram

[@spencerdunklebarger5418]

is it just me or is flamuu saying yamato the most satisfying thing ever

[@TheCommanderswat]

@flamu the riga lost all its hp 2 seconds after your shots missed and said "and he didnt get punished" :D

[@Flamuu]

Okay, clarification, didn't get punished by me!

[@onebigfatguy]

Lol the Alaska tore him a new asshole.

[@hokkikokki]

More of these how to play "chess" with ships! Rly good video yet again!

[@Taeschno_Flo]

Thanks for the BB guides, got me quite well or at least fun games, after starting this game to the Bayern so far. Yeah, im a noob, so great to learn something new and helpful!

[@grimmshredsanguinus2915]

just stick to the flank.. u dont want any cruisers to burn u to death in the midle

[@jakobsarsgaard6167]

@Flamu I just looove when u tell Jingles to "Shut up, old man" and Jingles just laugh his ass off

[@alexblazquezvelarde8677]

Last time I was this early, WG didn't hate German BBs

[@flashtirade]

So you've always arrived late?

[@thelvadam2884]

So 5 years ago ?

[@BPKPhoenix]

Midway: *IM GONNA RAM YOU!* Baiji: Hoooh, so you're approaching me!

[@meatballg8655]

Flamu: tries to make video to help the community with positioning The community: cyka cyka push mid rush b

[@iROWiki]

Somehow this showed up in my feed and while I am fascinated in the game I have not played it yet, but your video was very easy to follow. Thank you!

[@techignorance4435]

Two brothers central positioning guide thanks!

[@kylefitzsimmons2565]

Absolutely loving this series

[@RysenKai]

*furiously taking notes*

[@hetzhornchen7319]

i love these videos in which you tell how to play the ship :)

[@theenhancer]

"Taking you're time, lining up that sweet shot", only for RNG to troll you.

[@JessWLStuart]

Awesome instructional video! Again! Thanks :)

[@Deadlydel]

You realise you've increased the amount of people playing BB's recently right? Good job! 👏

[@Dominus_Potatus]

lol... for me... I changed to cruiser

[@grizzz6884]

great vid , i have been looking at your clock to see at what time to push , i see i need to hold back a bit

[@azerhero]

2020 : chaos everywhere around the world flamu : let's make another chaos

[@TheFuzzypuddle]

roflmao... "i'm not sure if i really have to spell it out for you guys..." have you seen us? yea, i'm pretty sure you need to spell it out for us.

[@FourTetTrack]

Too true...

[@Dorkrust]

Interesting example, definitely a well played mid to late game. Early game was a gimme with the Monty and Soyuz not turning south and angling against both you and the Yamato which is a wild oversight on their part. GG tho Flamu, love your content and insight.

[@xmlthegreat]

That was a dang skillful push. Almost makes me want to play the game again lol

[@derunbekannte2074]

Hey @Flamu are you going to do something similar for other classes as well? DDs and CA/CLs? I would appreciate it!

[@tonkatoytruck]

Cross fire the flank from the middle. Pray one of the enemy flanks collapse. Push up once the dds are identified\killed. Got it!

[@jahnavmudoi4448]

Title: Example #1 Thumbnail: Example #3 Me: *visible confusion*

[@amirulasyraf9199]

I know it's late but it's never to late to learn something new. Is this playstyle appliable to any BBs? How about ships that likes to brawl eg: Kremlin, Bismarck/Tirpitz etc?

[@SebaX92]

1:43 yeah that was me on forum saying this. Fun fact 3 of those BBs were a full div. Next day same crap I saw when I was playing my DD. Though today I didn’t see it maybe people learned not all yolo B on their BBs.

[@theenhancer]

Hey Flamu, might I recommend for the next video a ship that has difficulty with positioning due to its speed, like the Colorado and New Mexico?

[@Shadow.24772]

well, since you started, when BB is done how about some cruiser and DD positioning guides? if you decide to do it, please, for cruisers make for low tier and high tier :D

[@kagavc6278]

The problem of mine trying to hold the center position and try to get juicy broadsides is that my teammates on both flanks are too bad or too scared to have critical impact on the enemy. And it always ended up in me and a few survivors being bullied in a massive crossfire.

[@demosearies7591]

The german bb's biggest problem was not aiming for your turrets.. it is at least for me, very very good at that range for taking turrets out..

[@hajka7887]

I'd love to see such video with Soviet BBs, thanks for your content

[@Ensign_Cthulhu]

Filed for near future needs under "How to play Izumo." Which 4-point skill would you take first, FP or CE? Would you consider sacrificing AR and EL to take BOS?

[@SergioMerendino]

nicely explained

[@slam_down]

Hi bro. If you do that kremlin push video then you have to follow it up by a bourgogne video to showcase the contrast in armour characteristic of each of these ship and what difference in approach and play-style is required when jumping from one to the other

[@descriptiondescriptiondescript]

You are so close to hitting 100k subs :O!!!

[@Pliskkenn]

More positioning videos! I'd love some RN BB ones.

[@TastierBackInThe80s]

I did the same thing as others. When up into the mid after watching the last video and got it handed to me. The opposition's two CVs deleted me and my team basically split onto either flanks and pushed hard from the start.

[@Toxik_Tobi]

Good video!

[@mateuszsobich8113]

Flamu what about BB positioning guide for map Shatter? For ships like Georgia or Massachusetts?

[@haikyuu6038]

what can u do if u play ijn bb and focused by torpedo air crafts

[@postron5649]

Hi Flamu, Im relatively new to WoWS and I dont understand what you use the letter sigma for here. I know sigma primarily as the standard deviation however a higher standard deviation would imply less accuracy rather than more as you say in the video. What is the letter used for in WoWS?

[@zarlev9083]

How do you do that closeed up aimming at 11:15 with such smooth frame rate and control? ı have never seen what. in thoose close up situations i either use the normal camera angle( which makes it kinda hard to aim in a certain place at point blank range ) or ı get on the turret view but that also causes my frame rate to drop to a significantly lower rate then normal ( ı get about 40-50 normal but in drive by and CQC it drops to 5-10 at best 15)

[@SnipeExpert1]

Is there a site or something where you can see the sigma of ships ?

[@dusvlf0419]

ok, i'll try this with my lenin and soyuz!!

[@thiagosantiago1704]

Flamu can you upload more videos where you are in maps with a bunch of islands in one of the sides or maybe both like in the last one with Yammy? would like to see how much oportunitys and how you create them when dealing with this. Also can you upload one or two in epicenter mode? i think epicenter is the name of the game mode when the 3 caps stay in the mid of the map.

[@Jax2777]

Rule #1 from a BB to a DD, do not launch torps when your friendly BB is brawling

[@piotrlitwic5935]

This build doesn't seem to work on Bismarck. Perhaps a secondary or a hybrid build pls?

[@ShakaNFSW]

I would like a central position example but with a German ship, but not A TX, the Bismarck

[@IconProduction01]

3:09 - There was an "Omnevoi" in the center.. Is that some kind of new testing phase premium ship or something? :3

[@descriptiondescriptiondescript]

Can you do one for the GK as well?

[@Dawgsofwinter]

I usually prefer a flank in my ANGRY PIG and the range anymore is often worth the slower turret traverse. I'm one of the oddballs that likes Izumo over Yamato.

[@solomonzweig1551]

Can you do a dd positioning guide with Kleber.

[@Dominus_Potatus]

Can you answer my question: How do you play Azuma? If I use AP, it is basicly overpen... Is it a long range ship? Short range ship? I have an identitiy crisis with Azuma... I win lots of rounds, but hard to be Top 5 with it

[@miyano3116]

She's basically a long range HE spammer

[@XHitsugaX]

will this be steel/coal ship?

[@danielharrison9624]

are the american bbs good at central positions or should you use them more like the Japanese bbs

[@danielharrison9624]

sorry let me rephrase are the should the tech tree American bbs be more aggressive topush or should you snipe like the yamato from the center?

[@tristanjones7217]

I play my Montana in the center of the map to snipe, it works well for me

[@grimmshredsanguinus2915]

im looking forward for a t10 baguette potition and a tea t10 bb potition

[@edwardtabuno3547]

hi @Flamu cant you do Georgia please thanks and more power :)

[@perocean3992]

I was lucky I saw this game on stream

[@justin870116]

They should made your video mandatory to watch for all the players. It will improve the general gameplay so much. Therefore save some players who wants to quit the game all together because teammates are acting extremely stupid all the time....

[@EmperorNefarious1]

You're making me a better WoWS player... I don't know if that's a good thing

[@bakhtiaraljefry164]

Good tips and hopefully you can guide many potatoes of CA to use radar and catch the dds. Too much potatoes CA want farm BB n then being blop by BB.

[@repaleonhalo9754]

Ah that montana man.. Yesterday i was going to rush around the corner in my hipper to torp a Lenin.. My bismarck killed me with hes back turrets,, and ofcourse you dont get any exp compensation or something..

[@Dominus_Potatus]

I found it amushing.... Somehow... I got better results if I use center positioning with Azuma but do worse with BB....

[@1110jesse]

I don't really understand how it works this well for you.. I mean if I were in your position in this game, what would happen is my teammate would turn tail towards J line and run away. In a different map with similar 3 caps in E line, and I did go to G7, so between B and C caps. I was playing vladivostok, and I had a friendly Montana there who decided to run away and camp at J8 when 2 enemy BBs (vladi and georgia) came through the cap. I ended up in crossfire, got farmed and killed by those BBs, and that georgia at the end of the game ended up ramming that montana after blapping him for 50k dmg.. and worst part is, I blapped that georgia twice really hard at perfect boardside, he had below 3k health at some point.. the game was a typical weekend disaster.

[@bluerendar2194]

If you pay attention to it, he's pushing up *with* the JB, and as the JB turns away towards the end (but gets killed during it), he slows down In any case, pushing is something you do when you are fairly *safe* to do it or you *need* to Given it's a friendly Monty and you're in Vlad, you're a T8 BB in T10 MM, so you need to play it safer. Should you be pushing with a Monty, the Monty should be taking point, and you should stay safer in a farther back position - and you should be paying attention to what the Monty is doing/can do, and planning possible next moves around it. Well, unless it was a desperation push, then can't really do much about that

[@CrnaStrela]

Why the thumbnail and title is different?

[@nadlisse9055]

everything is better with Yamato gun sound

[@peradith0163]

holy shit i have never seen that much xp in one game

[@azfarabdullah5115]

Need a GK guide please

[@Xaildra]

pls do a video like this withe a Roma

[@maxes7119]

That zao did a good work even though he complained about poor teammates and cried in chat all game

[@joshuasantos3692]

Can we please get a German bb positioning guide!

[@grimmshredsanguinus2915]

on ocean!!!

[@Glider5858]

stefanos perivolaris lolooololol

[@V-V1875-h]

I have Izumo since yesterday, I get 100k damage each match, only two wins...... Aaaaaaaaa

[@florianbielawa2919]

1:46 THINKING'S MAN ACTION GAME

[@rockykong3134]

Bajie is a pan-Asia ship from China

[@guano64]

Wait if baje have 2.1 sigma and Izumi has 2.0 sigma, izumos sigma is better

[@OberstStein]

Higher Sigma means better accuracy because the accuracy in game is 1/Sigma

[@user-eq6te1mw8e]

i bet this ognevoi is one of the dude who say omg he sailed into my torps what a noob

[@6uiti]

CV are more balanced i remember the time where one mistake and you had 3 taiho torpedo squadrons on your broadside

[@derek96720]

[BAH] - [jyeh]. That is all.

[@haradimitroula3175]

69 shells... thts why this game was that succesfull

[@damiangracafreitas3260]

1*

[@xolove0024]

Make video like this with Kremlin or G.Kurfurst XD

[@hhhfghhh]

mfw i play ranked as scharnhorst setting up a crossfire, and my teammates angle towards me and eat citadels.

[@jorahtheandal243]

wah im early

[@MG3Super]

@Flamu it's pronounced "j-ae" like jay, not "j-i", don't be misled by the spelling.

[@Scholesy92]

so again - please explain what the f*** point is of this when 2 cvs exist in every game and there is not a thing you can do about it? Please explain.

[@soffici1]

So, in order for your guides on centre positioning to work you need: 1) cooperating enemies that shoot a bow-in Yamato instead of a broadside Bajie; 2) team mates able to think and breathe at the same time; 3) potato enemy CV that goes for the good-AA JB instead of going for the no-AA Bajie, then tries to run away in the same direction of the incoming threat and finally tries to ram a BB; 4) total idiots in the enemy DDs, that go hunting butterflies on the map border instead of blapping the big fat BB in the centre of the map; 5) cooperating enemy BB players, first lining up on your bow instead of creating crossfires and then exposing broadside to shoot with the rear guns. In the real world (I.e. ANY server but the RU server) these things don’t happen too often: although there is no shortage of idiots, they tend either to cluster on your team (not the enemy) or to be evenly distributed, thus rendering any hope of cooperation from your team mates vain...

[@user-sw1lj9qh5y]

Title must be fixed How to position in BB when your teammate is dumb enough

[@filipplaczkiewicz1631]

Kremlin please!😉🙃

[@mv3592]

Pigman

[@vermillioncap8784]

92 comment lol

[@justbite6355]

Wtf is this Bajie dispersion?! It is sooo aweful.