Battlestar Galactica #1 - Atop the Fourth Wall

[@TheHeroOfTomorrow]

Well, considering when it's reuploaded, the 'celebration' card is actually fitting now.

[@tscream80]

Based on its African location, I am tempted to chalk the dinosaur chasing the cast as being Carcharodontosaurus, a large therapod around the size of Tyrannosaurus (if not larger) that did live in Africa between 72 and 145 million years ago. Two things make me consider that it's not really intended to be that dino: 1) Based on the 1995 publication date (according to Google), this would have been a time when Carcharodontosaurus was a *very* obscure dinosaur, with the only remains known at the time having been destroyed during WWII. (An expedition being done around this time would uncover new remains, but they wouldn't be described in depth until about 2007, and even if the writers had been aware of the expedition, it would have probably been too late to included it). 2) The therapod has two fingered hands - a trait that's pretty definitive of the "advanced" tyrannosaurs. So, yeah, it's probably a geographically displaced Tyrannosaurus.

[@Tareltonlives]

Liefeld....got...his...mitts...on...Galactica.... Cue Combine Harvester

[@lynngreen7978]

+Tareltonlives And yet, I enjoyed what I read of this series better than the second TV series. It might not have been all that good, but it ignored Galactica 80, and the characters were still the ones I recognize and like. As opposed to the version where the only ones with redeeming qualities were Cylons.

[@phantomknight6428]

How can people allow Liefled with pen and paper?

[@lynngreen7978]

***** IIRC other than the cover, and the studio, he had no direct involvement. And also IIRC this was part of Richard Hatch's failed plan to get the show back on TV.

[@Tareltonlives]

I think George Lucas is a genius and even I think Liefeld is a hack

[@TheBestComicKing]

Egh Liefeld works better when things are already established, in terms of writing fer the most part. He still can’t draw.

[@jennifervalentine8955]

"Yahren" isn't made up. It's just the English phonetic pronunciation of the German word for "years", Jahren.

[@Dynaman21]

Wait, Baltar was Apocalypse? No wonder he was so awesome sounding!

[@CosmoShidan]

John Calicos was one of the greatest Canadian stage, film and television actors who ever lived! A pitty he passed on from several heart attacks. I recommend checking out The Starlost, created by Harlan Ellison and Ben Bova, a sort of prototype of Babylon 5, which Calicos also guest starred, alongside future Space 1999 season 1 regular, Terry Morse, also of The Fugative fame. I will admit that it has episodes that are good and bad, despite being short-lived and lasting only one season and 16 episodes (blame CBC for the usual studio meddling), but Calicos delivers one of his best, if not hammiest performances ever! Plus Walter Koenig and Percy Rodrigez also had guest appearances.

[@Djinsin]

This review got me to watch the original Battlestar Galactica! For that, I am forever grateful!!! Still haven't watched much of the re-imagining, nor do I really plan to.

[@gamesmaster35v2]

+Djinsin You really should. I would say the story telling in the new series was well done but don't expect it to be exactly like the Original, that will only breed disappointment. The effects were done much better of course, but a lot of people liked that about the old series. They had to invest more of their imagination into it.

[@StarWarriorCentral]

IDK why, but I friggin' LOVE the To Boldly Flee clip of Phelous's command to "Fire!"

[@Adamgontierfan19]

What's so great about this episode is I see those clips of Galactica's space battles and I immediately think of Big McLargeHuge from Space Mutiny running around the Southern Sun's boiler room. My fellow MST3K fans know what I'm talking about.

[@TheEmeraldWeirdo]

We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese!

[@calebmayfield3326]

MST3K?

[@Tareltonlives]

"This is just like the time I got lost at Bally's-got under the tennis courts, couldn't get out"

[@Tareltonlives]

MST3k is short for Mystery Science Theater 3000 THE BEST SHOW IN THE WORLD

[@dinosaurusmaximus8506]

Adamgontierfan19 Good ol Slab Bulkhead!

[@Tareltonlives]

Wait...Marville? It was destroyed! Marville was destroyed! It can't still exist!

[@Tareltonlives]

That's not true...that's impossible! NOOOOOOOO!

[@POLE7645]

+Tareltonlives Take it pulling a splinter out: Incredibly painful and unpleasant, but it'll be over soon (it's only the second to last video on it, thank god).

[@davidspring4003]

+Tareltonlives join me and we can destroy Marville as Equestria girl and future Jedi Master!

[@SchazmenRassir]

Huh... I used to have a Classic Cylon action figure... and I'd never even heard of Galactica until a few years ago. Still have the small/massive gun it included, heh.

[@ztyran]

24:20 This could be the world of Cadillacs and Dinosaurs, which ironically is also a comic.

[@IfSapphOnly]

Yesterday I was showing my mom Liefeld art, she was mortified.

[@eugenideddis]

Yay, another Christmas episode!

[@ThePreciseClimber]

And now we know why. :P

[@calebmayfield3326]

+ThePreciseClimber And knowing is half the battle

[@altejoh]

Well, if it would take thousands of "Yauran" even at light speed for them to get to earth - which, cosmologically, is quite close - then if they were only just then picking up the radio transmission of the moon landing, then that means that they are in fact 1000 years in the future. Since radio waves are a form of electromagnetic radiation, aka light. So, yeah, if they didn't time travel, they are definitely way in the future.

[@joholloway8818]

this episode is what...2.5 years old as of it being put up here? and the ONE nimue scene at the end STILL mange's to be 2.5 times BETTER than d@mn near EVERYTHING currently on TV!? I F%&KING LOVE THIS SHOW!

[@bogdangoranov3869]

Oh boy she is going all Hal 9000 on you, man:D

[@grantwilson4506]

The new battle star is where its at! Also, it is kind've nifty that they explain the premise of the show in the intro, though the one you showed was the short one. I also thought the Imperius Leader not being in the reboot was strange but then I realized they eradicated any reason to need him. Might've been cool if they referenced him as the old robotic leader of the original centurions until he was dismantled by the androids.

[@TheNumnutRandomness]

Oh dear, Nimue. You will believe a robot can menace.

[@Barbayat79]

I'd be more interested in the comics, if they had Lucifer on board the Galactica instead. Yep, that Lucifer, who in the novel series met Starbuck when he was briefly taken prisoner during the event of the "Tombs of Kobol", spend several books fondly reminiscing about him and then meeting him again on a planet that worshipped Starbuck as a hero. There they truly became friends but it ended with Lucifer being deactivated only to be used by Spectre later as an assassin on board... who was stopped by the power of Friendship. OMG I love the 80s ;) BTW Baltar's goal in the novels was quite clear - he wanted to rule the Cylon's and by that the galaxy, which was also Spectre's and Lucifer's goal (although Lucifer turned good as mentioned above, cause being Master of the Universe is not nearly as cool as being BFFs with Starbuck LOL)

[@catebrooks6779]

'I call it Mr. Coffee.' lol I've long felt Mel Brooks was a ghostwriter for some of the shows from that era...

[@WeirdWonderful]

What was the minerals refference about ? And oooh that Blip joke.

[@ShadowWingTronix]

I reviewed the entire run of LIefeld's Galactica on my site. I totally understand why you haven't gotten to #2 because frankly with two exceptions the whole run was a #2. The Starbuck miniseries set during the original series was fairly decent if not involving what's become a running theme of Starbuck crashing, everyone thinking he's dead, and Starbuck having to escape some Cylon-controlled world. Then there's a special collecting stories from their anthology comic that told how Adama and Cain first met. It showed that without Liefeld's plot mucking things up Robert Napton could make a decent BSG story. The rest are garbage that should only be bought if you want a laugh or some kind of completist. I'm still trying to figure out how to get rid of my copies because my comic collection is too big to enjoy.

[@ShadowWingTronix]

@@cliffkyle945 They're all listed on my sale page on one of my sites if you're interested.

[@CosmoShidan]

@@ShadowWingTronix Can you imagine Liefeld writing and drawing Firefly?!

[@andreworders7305]

I’m pretty sure spaceships that can withstand entry into the Earth’s atmosphere should not be weak to T-Rex attacks

[@SamnissArandeen]

You'd be surprised how brittle and lightweight ships are. Especially since they're pressure vessels designed for forces going out, not in.

[@OwlEye2010]

The inker of this comics, Rene Micheletti, is pretty active on DeviantART these days. Solid pin-up work and other good stuff. ;)

[@zacharyjochumsen9677]

Linkara have you red the dynamite battelstar glactica comics based on the 200r series

[@averagegamecritic]

How did the ships survive a temporal overdrive jump? Temporal overdrive either goes super fast (rip apart the ships), or freezes time and they move (pretty sure the ships couldn't move with no time unless they have a time bubble).

[@indianastones6032]

Gaius baltar was also a Klingon d'har master Kor in ToS and he reprised his role for a few episodes of DS9.

[@kevincorey5316]

I'm pretty sure the whole "sorcerers" thing was just a joke.

[@adambesley4455]

I found a second hand trade of this mini series in my local comics store today for five pounds. Having read it all it's quite good aside from the artwork. It does feel like a continuation of the series warts and all. Any chance of you covering the other issues anytime soon?

[@SMAXZO]

Wait..Count Ibli..who is also the Devil? Yeah, his name is one letter away from Iblis, basically the Arabic name of Satan. Oh...wait, it is spelled Iblis. My bad.

[@mitchfletcher2386]

As in....the IBLIS TRIGGER?!?

[@CosmoShidan]

@2:25 I have to disagree with you on that one Linkara, as the plan was simply to wipe out humanity as in the beginning, build on top of their remains on Caprica, and then according to John Cavil in season 4, turn all the skinjobs into pure metal. However, the model ones didn't count on the humans surviving, nor the Sixes convincing the rest of the skinjobs and centurians instigating a revolution and civil war which destroyed the resurrection technology and much of the cylon fleet.

[@SamnissArandeen]

Nor did the Ones count on, of all things, when the nukes flew ALL of the Final Five successfully made it offworld. (Saul Tigh and Tyrol aboard Galactica, Tory Foster as part of Roslin's staff, Anders doing training camp which let him survive and mount a resistance long enough for Starbuck to rescue him, and Ellen Tigh being saved at the last moment by a One who doesn't think she's paid her penance yet.)

[@HeStalksTheSwamps]

God I love the end theme I can't find it on Google whatsoever; is there somewhere I can download or buy it or something?

[@dukespubber741]

The ending theme was originally submitted as a possible theme song back in the day. When KZbin started ContentIDing all the normal ending songs (which is a licensed song related to the episode), Linkara decided to dig up one of the former theme songs to be this song and Soren (the singer) responded to his email.

[@HeStalksTheSwamps]

Thanks mate! You know where I can find the song?

[@SUPERMEDIABROTHERS6]

Will you ever be reviewing any more from this series?

[@Macrochenia]

Honestly, I think that the special effects of the show actually hold up quite well.

[@TS-wg5pv]

I hope linkara reviews the entire battlestar galactica miniseries

[@czebinatorm]

Is it just me, or do some of the costumes in the Time 4 Backstory segment look like the cast are about to fight Titans?

[@thejimg]

I was kind of hoping this was the Marvel Battlestar Galactica series...

[@CosmoShidan]

I hear it's way better than the original tv series.

[@Dicker296]

13:45 So earth is more like a thousand of urines in the distance

[@andreworders7305]

I was under the impression the 13th tribe was supposed to be our species and that we came from outer space instead of evolving on Earth like in the real world.

[@SamnissArandeen]

The 13th tribe created their own Cylons, who nuked them and only five survived by using resurrection technology. They flew all the way back to the other twelve colonies, stopped the Human/Cylon War by offering the robots resurrection and skinjobs, and then their Number Ones wiped the Five's memories, planted them as humans in the Colonies, and in forty years time tried to eradicate the Colonies.

[@animationfanatic2133]

12:15 I lost it at the bird noise

[@MuscleboySV]

I blinked when I first saw that panel at 18:59. It hurts my eyes too.

[@RaphBlade7]

*The following is the opinion of a Salty SEAGULL named EARL who just shows up in my posts whenever he feels like it!* [EARL the Salty SEAGULL:] 8:58 - "Isn't obvious Linkara? CyberMats are both fashionable and Adorable!"😮

[@Fuzzy_Barbarian]

There's a character called Boxy? Oh, hindsight...

[@MegaSpideyman]

What did you dislike about the black market episode?

[@barbiquearea]

Aren't Seraphs a higher rank for angels?

[@alexanderfix3629]

Yes, the second highest of nine.

[@alexanderfix3629]

Yes, the second highest of nine.

[@JamieR2062]

In the future, could you put a link to the actual episode on the site in the description?

[@CosmoShidan]

I just had another franchise that Rob Liefeld could "improve" with his art, Firefly!

[@JaelinBezel]

Wish the Cyclons were friendly instead. That'd be cool.

[@maricallo6143]

Had issues 1-10 sent to me by some relatives in the US, only issues 5 & 8 remained, the rest were lost.... sadly.... Ernie Colon was great, even liked the comic book colours better

[@Mr4thDoctor]

I think I'm the only person on the planet who likes both original and reboot Battlestar Galactica.

[@nvfury13]

Daniel O'Connell I like both..until the end of the new one.

[@jeffdrowned7163]

I think both are cool.

[@MyMagnificentOctopus]

Count Iblis IS Professor Xavier!

[@SamnissArandeen]

I've finally found him...the Iblis Trigger

[@jackofallclaws6672]

Please review the rest Linkara

[@silverthorn9759]

You should review the comics version of Galactica 1980 because it's good but odd, really odd.

[@haydenhyde9395]

Don't allosaurs ( hope that's how you spell it) cone from Utah?

[@tscream80]

Most specimens of Allosaurus do come from the western US, but they have found the remains of one species in Portugal, and the possible remains of another in Tanzania.

[@kingofthegundam7974]

How were the other Battlestar Galactica comics?

[@CosmoShidan]

From what I've been told about the Marvel version, it's way better than the 70s TV series, as are the 14 novel adaptations and original books.

[@MrZerothejedi]

Not sure if Baltar is playing one side against the other, or playing both against the middle... So Baltar is his own worst enemy? Cool.

[@CosmoShidan]

The problem was that the 70s version was overhyped, and it really should have been a tv movie trilogy as Glen Larson saw it, but the powers that be at ABC wanted to go to series. In fact, here's an overview of the series which sheds some light on theses criticisms: kzbin.info/www/bejne/inqwo4iPZqZ7gNE

[@jfdrac]

Wow that back story was very complicated lol....but yeah I can see another reason this might have got dropped going so very heavy into religious tones might have pushed off sponsors....Also Kamandi never really had Dinos...just sentient Animal People......More liklely it means they landed on the Earth of JP Fallen Kingdom

[@lorddrayvon1426]

Why would the Cylons put a human in charge? They have humans. Sure, he betrayed them but isn't that even less reason to put him in charge?

[@CosmoShidan]

Yeah, Baltar was suppose to be killed off in the pilot, but was saved when the original plan for the series was changed from a movie trilogy to series. It makes no sense why the John Calicos version Baltar wants to be the last human alive. It goes against how this Baltar originally was to be dictator of his spared colony. At least in the reboot, the new one was more of a tragic figure and an egoistic prick at the same time.

[@terihidrosollo4943]

Was exo squad influence by battle star galactica?

[@CosmoShidan]

It was influenced by Mobile Suit Gundam and Macross more likely. BSG I would say might have had a hand in influencing MSG, and Macross, and Space Runaway Ideon, so perhaps in a way it indirectly influenced Exosquad. Although, Space Battleship Yamato did come out in 1974, a few years before BSG, and did influence Macross, Gundam and Ideon, if not as a sort of a few critiques of it. And perhaps Yamato influenced BSG and even Star Wars as it has similar themes.

[@andreworders7305]

17:15 damning the souls of the soulless seems somewhat futile

[@jfdrac]

I have always been curious when you show clips and shrink them down...is that a copyright issue or a Quality of the video issue?

[@AT4W]

Copyright issue. The theory is that the automatic detection won't kick in if the screen is smaller. In practice... it probably doesn't work.

[@jfdrac]

@@AT4W I thought that might be the case but did not get how that would work lol...but anything to not lose your videos

[@thelonewolfronstringer6266]

The lead singer of the band coheed and cambria created a comic I've seen it and its a bad comic the story makes sense sometimes and the characters are silly and it would be cool if you did it on here even though I am commenting on a 3 yr old video

[@xShadowsaur]

I know this comment comes in far too late but Allosauruses didn't live in Africa either. Also that doesn't look like an Allosaurus, nor are Allosauruses that large but I suppose that's neither here nor there.

[@jfdrac]

There is some that have been found in Tanzania that have people split as to Allosaurs vs Ceratosaurus

[@MrZerothejedi]

BALTAR...D? Sad that didn't happen...

[@rocklobsterjwt]

Where's the ruminations?

[@Tareltonlives]

"BUT BALTAAAAAAR!"

[@Tareltonlives]

Space Mutiny was better than the Galactica reboot

[@objectiveasylum]

Was... Was he confused about there being pyramids in Africa?

[@papabearlives9995]

in the original storyline it seemed like the concept was there was a connection with ancient Egypt. Lots of pyramids in all there stuff and the pilots helmets

[@DrBachur]

LIEFEEEEEEEELD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@FailedYouTuber333]

Baltar? More like Baldtar.

[@griffinshaffer83]

🤨

[@jonathanbermudez546]

The biggest loser on the planet Fer or

[@elbarto6668]

👍💯

[@noahlarsen3109]

I watched the original series it was awful...... Had lots 0f potential, but the writing ehhh. Just started the reimagining it's great

[@CosmoShidan]

The original's uniforms must have inspired the uniforms of Firefly, which was just as awful. I hope Firefly gets a reboot treatment.

[@stephenthelesser9297]

second?

[@sirderpington7704]

is there a Starbucks on planet Starbuck?

[@SamnissArandeen]

On every street corner

[@andreworders7305]

Eh, not bad

[@Avenger85438]

Like in most media I prefer the original to the remake. Which set a bad example that all sci fi shows need to be dark, and pessimistic with asshole characters going up against even bigger asshole characters, while the only decent people it portrays are broken, hardened or laughed off. Though a new iteration that mixes the two, would be interesting. Keeping the lasers, aliens, and original origin of the Cylons, while the Galactica wrestles with moral quandary's, the Cylons have human models that become conflicted, with a couple characters who make you question if mankind is worth saving. _Without_ going overboard with silly or dark concepts.

[@CosmoShidan]

I wish the original was kept as a movie trilogy as Larson intended, while keeping the Cylons reptilian. Otherwise, I prefer the remake. The original devating from its plans makes it too typical of the space western that was prevalent in the 70s a la the Starlost and Space 1999. E.g., the space cowboys against blackcoated enemies.

[@CosmoShidan]

"Which set a bad example that all sci fi shows need to be dark, and pessimistic with asshole characters going up against even bigger asshole characters, " What planet are you on? There already dark and pessimistic sci-fi shows starting with Space Above and Beyond, Tek War, the X-files, Dark Angel, First Wave, the Outler Limits, Lexx, Earth Final Conflict, Starhunter, and Farscape in the late 90s and early 2000s. Plus, if you look at Lexx Starhunter, and Farscape in particular, the characters in those particular space westerns were full of morally ambiguous characters. BSG 2003 took it to the next level by relating it to then current events.

[@Avenger85438]

@@CosmoShidan Yes but its Galactica's specific style being copied. Shows like Farscape and Lexx may have had characters who had secrets and unsavory history but they were also so over the top and insane at times, keeping it from being bleak, with the characters like Moya's crew having amazing comradeship. Galactica had little of that due it wanting to be "grounded" and "realistic", which was novel at the time but has since, in my opinion, overstayed its welcome, with how every show since seemed to be in competition to so who can out pessimist the other. Also, how the 90's told/portrayed "dark storytelling" was very different from now simply due to what was both allowed within a certain age rating at the time, (which arguably forced them to be creative within those restrictions) and the desensitization to violence and taboo topics not yet being as severe as it is now.

[@CosmoShidan]

@@Avenger85438 I still don't see how grounded and realistic settings in sci-fi has overstayed it's welcome, since you have that style in Babylon 5 and Space Above and Beyond. That is, if you are referring to real world politics. Heck, even Starhunter had the same grounded and realistic setting by not including aliens and being human centric with advanced A.I. As for the "amaxing comradieri" in Farscape, the characters behaved much like the new BSG characters, such as the time that the Moya crew cut off Pilot's arm to get a trade deal, or how Chiana slept with D'argo, only to find out she had an affair with his son, much like how Leoban was tortured by Starbuck, or how she's in a relationship with Sam, but then having an affair with Apollo. What certain degrees of violence? I mean, if you saw the first episode of Lexx, it was a gorefeast. Not to mention that in Space Above and Beyond, it explored torture of POWs in wartime even before the rebooted BSG in 1996. So that's some dark stuff there. And what certain 'age restrictions' and taboos may I also ask? I would appreciate an example or two.

[@Avenger85438]

@@CosmoShidan That was in the first season before they grow close and established their dynamics with each other and Chiana screwing things up was a deliberate act of self-sabotage she enacted out of fear of commitment. When I say "grounded" and "realistic" I'm referring to how its misconceived to mean having a pessimistic tone, and the characters to be volatile, hostile and violent, throughout the run, with ever increasing moral comprises made by them. Babylon 5 was a properly grounded and realistic, in that the tech and dynamics were based on how things would work in space, and the issues that arise in politics and diplomacy. Thing weren't dire and bleak all the time and good people weren't constantly talked down and punished by the universe for daring to be optimistic. Moments of levity and introspection were shared as well and characters often went without surrendering to their worse impulses. The showrunner said he based the Galactica reboot on the Trek episode _Consciousness of the King_ where Kirk struggled with his desire for revenge but from how that went you swear he forgot Kirk didn't go through with it. Also when I said that things were different back then, regarding violence and taboo, i meant that about tv in general not just sci-fi. Violence may not have been absent from the genre but it wasn't a universal element that dominated it, but because boundries are always being pushed Audiences have gotten more jaded to such things and all of television has been affected by the need to stay relevant by having even more visceral presentation, including sci-fi and Battlestar set the prescient because of how popular it got.

[@ΑδάμΜιχαλίτσης]

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[@viraltang]

God damn is that remake show bad yeah it went into a lot more detail about stuff but the whole show was poorly writen, unimagitive, genric crap.