Battlestar Galactica 1x1 Reaction | 33

[@darthmuppet]

This episode marks the introduction of one of the BSG’s most important contributors: Bear McCreary as composer. Musical scores for TV shows can be hit or miss, but he outdoes himself on this show!

[@PHDiaz-vv7yo]

Although that was still Richard Gibbs at the end. But Bear really makes his mark with Episode 6

[@Sephiroth144]

Though to be fair, Bear did work on the miniseries as well, but not in the "big chair".

[@miff227]

I read once that Bear said he'd want Love T.K.O as his theme as he enters a room. I then head McCreary's The Walking Dead theme and the opening notes from Love T.K.O are in the theme....

[@TheNoybusiness]

This was the show that introduced me to Bear's music and was his first big break. Since then I've also heard him on Caprica, Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome, Outlander, Agents of SHIELD, Defiance, Da Vinci's Demons, The Cape, Black Sails and Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, the film Godzilla: King of the Monsters, and the video game Forspoken.

[@bmyattuk]

The more you watch the series, the more you walk around humming 'wander my friends.'

[@matthewhearn9910]

At some point in watching this series you will probably suspect (at least temporarily) every single character of being a Cylon. And when you are right we will secretly giggle and say nothing.

[@funnylilgalreacts]

😂

[@Pokeysaurus]

@@funnylilgalreacts My favorite part of Miniseries Part 2 is when you went through the quick progression of, "Wait, Boomer is a Cylon?? NOOOO! Wait, this means that anyone can be a Cylon(upset)! Wait, this means that anyone can be a Cylon(intrigued)!" And yes, you'll find reason to believe that just about everyone is a Cylon at one point or another.

[@Educated2Extinction]

@@Pokeysaurus One catch. Just using what we saw in the miniseries, when Adama says "Brace for impact", Tigh replies, "Haven't heard that in a while". That indicates they fought in the first Cylon War, which would seem to eliminate them. Lee being Adama's son would seem to eliminate him.

[@MrTheageofinformatio]

@funnylilgalreacts I love that you are on board with this show, the lore, the acting, the music....especially the music from bear mccreary is just *chef's kiss*. If I may offer you some advice to avoid episode spoilers. At the beginning of each episode you will hear the drums, that is when they play a montage of key scenes in the episode. I recommend to not be spoiled by anything just to close your eyes and soak in those japanese taiko drums. It will let you experience the episode and all the events in the most purest form! "So say we all!"

[@thomashiggins9320]

This episode demonstrates superbly why it would suck *hard* (and not in a good way) to try to fight a war against machine-intelligences. 😬😖

[@dgpatter]

“What’s with 6 kissing every man? Does this have to happen?” Every actor on BSG set: “Yes! It’s an extremely important plot point.”

[@TheNoybusiness]

SPOILERS Apollo never got kissed by Six. In one of the behind-the-scenes videos where the actors read fan questions, Tricia Helfer read one that asked when Six would stop hanging around Baltar and "get it on" with Adama or Apollo. Tricia pointed out that Six already tried it on Adama and it didn't work (in "Six Degrees of Separation"). When she said, "As for Apollo..." Jamie Bamber then said, "Yeah, producers, come on." This was between Seasons 1 and 2 or 2 and 3. I wonder if he was annoyed it never happened.

[@VegetaLF7]

@@TheNoybusiness I'd be annoyed too if everybody I worked with got to kiss Tricia Helfer but me.

[@mdfmk1138]

If I could give one piece of spoiler free advise, while watching this series is keep in mind when it was made. The mini series originally aired shortly after 911 and a lot of the themes and issues they deal with were allegories for what we were all going through during that time. Watching the show now you may not pick up on all of them but at the time it was just brilliant writing and acting.

[@kingscorpion7346]

excellent advise!

[@Markus117d]

It's based on the Original Battlestar series from the late 70's. Which it's self is loosely a story of the Exodus in the bible. Which may explain why the remake is heavy on the religious side, The gods of the Colonials and the Cylon god. Speaking of colonials, It's no coincidence of the 12 colonies of man, With a mythic 13th tribe out there perhaps. Foundation of the United States also enters in to the inspiration for the show..

[@barreloffun10]

@@Markus117d The original BSG incorporated lots of Mormon beliefs (Glen Larson was Mormon) so the religious elements were there from the very beginning.

[@oleub23]

while true to say its partially based on exodus, it should also be said that it (especially the original series) was also extremely mormon with its themes

[@Markus117d]

@@barreloffun10 Yep, But with the remake it's so much extra & in your face lol.. Which is what i was getting at.. lol.. 👍

[@misterkite]

Notice how the cylons refer to a singular God while the humans refer to multiple Gods.

[@bitter_light]

The show originally meant to have Lee see live passengers aboard the Olympic Carrier before he destroyed it, but the network said that was too dark. Every reference to that event in the rest of the show confirms that it was indeed inhabited

[@PercyLeon1]

Yeah I heard that I posted the same comment without reading yours first. The episode 33 really got me hooked

[@Sephiroth144]

And that deleted scene from season 3, (I believe), when Lee is sure he sees people moving while reviewing the footage of the final flyby.

[@miff227]

wow, that makes things a lot clearer

[@matthewteague623]

Even if they were not seen, he would always have to wonder if they were still aboard in a cargo hold, etc. Or wonder even worse, if the passengers were NOT aboard, what might that mean, were they simply killed, or ... used... for what purpose?

[@TheNoybusiness]

Yeah, in the showrunner commentary for one episode, Moore and Eick say the characters are just kidding themselves and know there were people on that ship.

[@Nacthem]

William Adama's rank is Commander. Saul Tigh rank is Colonel, which makes him the Executive Officer or XO, aka the second in command of the ship. The officer rank structure for Galactica from highest to lowest is Admiral, Commander, Colonel, Major, Captain, Lieutenant, Ensign. You can have a rank but also have a title based on your function in the military. Like Lee "Apollo" Adama is the CAG (Commander Air Group) but his rank is still Captain. Chief Tyrol and Duella are enlisted, with Tyrol being some kind of chief petty officer and Duella being a specialist. Names like Apollo, Starbuck, Boomer, these are all pilot call signs for the people Captain Adama, lieutenant Thrace, lieutenant Valeri respectively. Hope this helps you sort the ranks/roles a bit.

[@mikeljenks]

To be considered an admiral you need command of multiple Battlestars or a fleet of military ships.

[@N0-1_H3r3]

Two other useful Galactica Military terms you'll hear a lot: *DRADIS:* Short for Direction, RAnge and DIStance, this can be thought of as sort of like real-world RADAR, used for navigation and tracking enemies. *Actual:* When speaking over the radio/wireless, Actual refers to the commanding officer of a vessel. If you call Galactica, you'll speak to whomever is operating the communications; if you ask for Galactica Actual, you're asking to talk to Commander Adama specifically.

[@Huskeybear76]

The space fleet should have Naval ranks which are as follows: (officers lowest to highest) Ensign, Lieutenant junior grade, Lieutenant, Lieutenant Commander, Commander, Captain, and Admiral ( Admiral has 4 levels), Admiral Adam's rank is Admiral but he is the commander of the ship and the fleet, If Tyrol is a Chief (as I am) he wold probably be a ( 3 levels of Chief: Chief, Senior Chief or Master Chief) Chief or Senior Chief, Master Chiefs work under the XO as a representative of the enlist aboard the ship, Duella would be a a petty officer ( low to highest) 3rd class, 2nd class or 1st class petty officer,

[@BigTexJ]

@@Huskeybear76 This show has a hybrid army/navy ranks structure, not the real US Navy's ranks. @Nacthem got it right for the show, except for forgetting Colonel between commander and major. ; )

[@knavehart]

You missed colonel in your rank structure...

[@flatcat6676]

Saul Tigh, the XO of the Galactica, was one of my favorite characters from the outset of the story. Yes, he's a drunk and a loose cannon when it comes to his interpersonal relations, but when the shooting starts he knows how to handle his job - which is making hard choices that will get some of his crew killed in order to accomplish the mission. There is a lot to unpack with his character, but putting some consideration on how surviving a bloody, genocidal war can affect the mind and the soul may help you understand why he is at his best while on duty only to crash down into the worst parts of his personality when the guns have stopped firing.

[@m.e.3862]

I love that the actor was the voice of a character in Mass Effect. Everyone knows that it's really Saul tigh 😁

[@flatcat6676]

@@m.e.3862 "You just can't get sockeye salmon on the Citadel..." - Saul Tigh, er... I mean, Commander Bailey!

[@donpietruk1517]

Michael Hough acts his role out superbly. One of the most consistent and best acting jobs in the series. The other is Tricia Helfer as she finds some way to make each version of 6 unique.

[@alexanderriley2979]

Nothing but respect for the actor. :)

[@Akaeus]

He was also the commander of the Imperial legions in skyrim

[@benadams6767]

Helo was only meant to be in the mini series, but the audience response to him was so strong and they wanted to know what happened to him that they carried on his story.

[@KBTibbs]

Tahmoh Penikett is just a fantastic actor and I'm so glad they carried him forward.

[@terrystewart1973]

Made a great story arc as well. I can't imagine the series without him in it

[@fasstaerke]

so glat they did his arc is one of the best of the show

[@SamnissArandeen]

@@terrystewart1973 THE arc of the entire show that gave the Cylons their primary motivation and drove their interactions with humans

[@CBDuRietz]

Battlestar Galactica, Firefly, and The Expanse are three very different takes on the sci-fi genre. All three are amazing in their own rights, but because of the differences, it's nigh impossible to rank them. Not sure one should even try, but just acknowledge that those three are top tier.

[@W0NK042]

*cough* Farscape *cough*

[@DanielConwayRacing]

I’d also add Stargate

[@coreyg3228]

Oh I can definitely rank them. BSG is the best of the three

[@coreyg3228]

@@W0NK042 One of my favorites.

[@mikek9297]

It's the Expanse at nr 1 for me. No doubt. It's just on another level. Still love BSG but the mystical angle kinda bugs me. It's way too prominent.

[@generalmortars7557]

"Why can't they sleep in turns?" There is a jolt everytime they jump, when every molecule in your body is instantly teleported light years away. That's bound to wake up anyone.

[@TheNoybusiness]

There aren't enough of them to have a fully staffed day shift and a fully staffed night shift.

[@jfajman]

I remember watching this episode back when it came out in 2004. The hallway with the photos completely took my mind to 9/11 and sent a chill down along my spine then and still does now.

[@davidm1926]

Worth considering the impact of 9/11 when watching any shows made in this period (maybe through 2005 at least?). Might not matter for most shows, but very much matters for some.

[@barreloffun10]

Not as recent in history, so the emotional impact is muted, but the scene of Roslin taking the oath of office on what will become Colonial One was deliberately shot to echo Lyndon Johnson taking the oath of office on Air Force Two (becoming Air Force One) after Kennedy was assassinated.

[@pjotrh]

Same for shooting the Olympic out of the sky because the ship could be a weapon….. that was such an impactful scene back in those days.

[@hughjassol-0-]

I also consider this "9/11 in space" I commented that on another reactors take on part 1 and I realize now that it was this episode that rings that memory with the hallway of "missing"

[@Logan_Baron]

The show was described as a post 9-11 reimagining.

[@AH-yn6ip]

Yeah, during the opening credits you see like 10 seconds of flashing bits from the upcoming episode. It's generally acceptable to just look away during this time. It doesn't ever get super bad, but it can certainly spoil you on stuff that will be happening that episode.

[@vetrais7965]

I got in some discussions regarding this in the mini series comments and I appreciate the way you put it here. Everyone has their own threshold of what is acceptable or not. I personally enjoyed those flashes as they always whet my brain's appetite and occasionally would lead to subverted expectations. In my opinion, it's no worse than "previously on" sections, those 1-2 sentence episode descriptions, or even episode titles as all of those have a lot more context to them. But to each their own.

[@AUMOTmusic]

I don't mind it, I don't think of it any differently than the opening credits of Mission Impossible movies and it doesn't spoil the impact for me

[@akeel_1701]

Aye, I think they borrowed that from Space 1999, it did that in its episodes as well....

[@ryans413]

It didn’t spoil anything important but makes you curious what your about to watch. It’s pretty much just the shows intro

[@Pixelologist]

@@vetrais7965 Your'e right, of course, about everyone having their own threshold comfort level with that stuff. As far as I'm concerned, some quick flashes without any context at all doesn't spoil anything - it's more like an amuse bouche.

[@CptApplestrudl]

Paranoia, claustrophobia, exhaustion and desperation are all constant companions in this show.

[@valashar5313]

CAG, or Commander of the Air Group is Captain Lee Adama's role and title in the fleet. He is the officer directly in charge of all fighters, pilots, and deck crews. The CAG reports to the XO (Executive Officer Tigh, sometimes called the First Officer), who reports to the CO (Commanding Officer, Commander William Adama sometimes called Galactica Actual or 'The Old Man').

[@DeaconBlues117]

"And they have a Plan." Or, as my wife said, "They had a Plan. That Plan didn't work, so they came up with another Plan. That fell through too. Now they're just Winging It."

[@LukaWukaWatcher]

Hey one good tip for differentiating between the different Cylons of the same model is naming each one. The fandom has already done that mostly and it's not a spoiler to say. So, the Boomer on Caprica is usually referred to as Sharon while the one on Galactica is called Boomer. Just so you don't mix them up when talking about them. Hope that helps 😊😊

[@AllTradesOfGeek]

I’d say that Babylon 5 is not just my favorite sci-fi series, but favorite tv show of all time. BSG is definitely up there for me though! You are in for a ride with this one! I’m not gonna say who says it, or when it happens but one of my absolute favorite monologues of all time is in this show.

[@TheNoybusiness]

I call Buffy, Babylon 5 and Battlestar Galactica the Thee Big Bs.

[@Zeroscape]

Babylon 5 is such a treat. If people are able to get past/used to the 90's low budget-ness of it, there's a wonderful story and a ton of great characters to enjoy. It's up there for me as well.

[@MrFrikkenfrakken]

This BSG, B5, Farscape, Stargate (all incarnations), Firefly are tops for me.

[@ChibiHoshiDragon]

My fav as well. Made even better when JMS made a tweet calling out certain fans who voted a certain way and stated they didn't understand the show.

[@michaelguth4007]

Babylon 5 was groundbreaking storytelling for a TV show in its day. It has some of the best character interactions ever written, and so many quotable lines.

[@kevenpinder7025]

Starbuck (Sackoff) and Six (Helfer) became lifelong friends during the making of the series. There are 2 KZbin videos of them goofing around. One involves fatigue, wine, and web questions. One involves a Tesla programming option. The 2 are among the most side splittingly hilarious videos in existence.

[@deanthemachine8879]

The battle between the monotheism of the Cylons and the polytheism of the Humans is actually a pretty neat thread that adds depth to the story and gets a bit more exploration in the prequel series Caprica

[@urfaes6878]

This is something I wish were explored more. The Cylons being monotheistic and humans being polytheistic is fascinating. Especially when considering the original BSG creator, Glen Larson, was a Mormon. Even more especially when you consider the Mormon belief in Kolob (Kobol) as their center of the Universe.

[@bankbarcomo806]

yeah I agree, but I'm detecting a non-trivial amount of anti-theisism from @funnylilgalreacts . As a believer, I find it quite off-putting, and if it continues she should probably stop watching the series. (I found her via the BSG mini-series, so I haven't watched much of her other stuff.)

[@deanthemachine8879]

@@bankbarcomo806 I think it can be shocking to any modern television viewer (especially of scifi) to have religion show up in a show or movie in a way that isn’t in passing or in a very sloppy surface level way. BSG had its faults, but it did far better at dealing with it and not trivializing it compared to other IPs

[@darrellhanning5068]

@@bankbarcomo806 BSG is not a show for those who wear their religion on their sleeve. You may find the viewer's personal views off-putting, but that's the exact mentality that shuts down important religious and philosophical discussion between peoples with different belief systems.

[@bankbarcomo806]

@@darrellhanning5068 being an atheist is one thing, being anti-theist is off-putting by design.

[@FreemanicParacusia]

No spoilers, but religion will be a constant throughout the series, so be ready for that. Saw some eyerolls. 😝 It’s notable that the colonials are polytheists-the “Lords of Kobol” they worship as gods which have been name-dropped up to this point share the names of deities from Greek, Roman, and Egyptian religions on Earth. The Cylons are apparently monotheists, with Six consistently describing God as a singular entity. I do not know if the Cylons were religiously motivated to exterminate mankind, but it wouldn’t surprise me given our own history. You may have noticed the twelve colonies are named after real-world constellations (ex: Caprica/Capricorn, Gemenon/Gemeni, etc.), and the colonials believe that Earth is a nigh-mythical thirteenth colony, with all of them originating from another nigh-mythical world called Kobol. I never saw the entire series (only about halfway through season three) so I’ll be interested to see where things go. But yeah, The Expanse is easily the best scifi show I’ve ever seen. Here’s hoping for season seven when Amazon’s contract runs out.

[@meadmaker4525]

The "Funny Lil Gal: Reactica" intro was awesome!! Also, Six is kind of the sultry-bot Cylon, so her programmed personality leads her to always be really physically intimate. There is a LOT more to her, but right now that's all we're seeing.

[@raymondamador1487]

You should've been warned or prepared for all the religious overtones and undertones. The pagan and christian "gods" are sprinkled throughout this series. As you've already seen. lol 🤖☮️ Fantastic reaction

[@gcswift2]

Some advice about this show. Don't fear, you're in good hands. Your questions will be answered, seldomly the way you'll expect. Stop trying to look around the corner and focus on what's in front of you. You'll miss the details that lead to the next event.

[@W0NK042]

Its every 33mins because that's how long Sam needs to rest, between screaming: "KeNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN-OOOOOooobiiiiiii!!!!"

[@funnylilgalreacts]

I love it

[@thetankgarage]

The show Caprica is a prequel, it contains a ton of high concept philosophy just like BSG but it's supposed to be a fully functional society so it's all over the place, partly it covers the genesis of the Cylons. Was cancelled before a real conclusion. A solid 6/10 show, well acted. edit; just went and looked up the 1min trailer for Caprica on imdb, no BSG spoilers and explains the main plot of Caprica quite well.

[@Cynthesis21]

"Funnylilgal Reactica" i am easily amused and this is LOL 🤣

[@funnylilgalreacts]

All hail Xander, the man with the bestest ideas

[@W0NK042]

@@funnylilgalreacts - So say we all.

[@leonardofacchin1452]

Lol... the octagon-shaped movie display window is a masterstroke. Kudos to Xander

[@fakecubed]

This show is Sam Witwer's first real role. He just had small, one episode appearances on a few TV shows before this. I actually forgot he was in this.

[@Samminish]

Thanks Ms. Angela ~ Once a ship's Captain takes command of multiple ships, he could then be named an Admiral .. .. This cast got along so well that when Boomer (Grace Park) got married in the real world, she asked James Edward Olmos to walk her down the aisle and give her away .. .. ❤‍🔥❤‍🔥

[@Sephiroth144]

But generally, has to be multiple military ships (usually a set number of "ships of the line"; if there's a few smaller military support ships, can be dicey; likewise, commanding the military ship protecting a civilian convoy wouldn't (usually) count)

[@barreloffun10]

In the Navy (US Navy anyway) "Captain" is both a rank and a position. The rank of captain is an Officer-6, equivalent to a full colonel in the army. The position of captain is the commanding officer (CO) of a ship or base. Very often the rank and position correspond, that is the position of captain on a ship is often filled by an officer with the rank of captain, but not always. I served for a while on a minesweeper, a very small ship, the captain of which was a Lieutenant Commander. Sometimes a major capital ship like an aircraft carrier will have a captain (the commanding officer) with the rank of Rear Admiral. Anyway, the officer in command of multiple ships will usually be an admiral and is referred to as such, but again not always. The squadron of minesweepers I was in was commanded by a full Commander. In that case, where the squadron commander does not have the rank of admiral, the officer in charge of the group of ships is referred to as the Commodore.

[@kevinjohnson613]

I think you can also be a commodore. Instead of Admiral.

[@Samminish]

@@barreloffun10 Thanks for your service!

[@Huskeybear76]

@@kevinjohnson613 They did away with the position of Commodore which used to be the lowest rank of Admiral now it is : O-1 through O-4 are junior officers: ensign, lieutenant (junior grade), lieutenant, and lieutenant commander. O-5 and O-6 are senior officers: commander and captain. O-7 through O-10 are flag officers: rear admiral (lower half) (one star), rear admiral (two stars), vice admiral (three stars), and admiral (four stars).

[@crakawut]

That part at the end where they get to add one always gets me. Jumping sooner wouldn't matter, they were tracking the carrier.

[@brizbg]

I might be missing something, but jumping before the 33th minute mark sounds great to me. I think the 33 minutes are required for the cylons to receive data from the olympic carrier and do some sort of calculation before jumping to the fleet. So if the fleet jumps earlier, the cylons would probably need to restart the process. This way the fleet just jumps without having to engage in those nerve wracking, dangerous battles every 33 minutes

[@bcn1gh7h4wk]

one thing to get from the whole chase, is that when the Cylons stop chasing them, everyone is relieved. no.... you shouldn't be relieved without the clear victory from your side. when the enemy stops doing the thing they've been doing all this time, you have to ask yourself "did they give up? or did they accomplish what they were trying to do?" ...because, Cylons don't just "give up"

[@Sephiroth144]

@@brizbg The Cyclons would just get an update from the faster jump, change their destination, and "hello" in 33 minutes from the last "faster" jump. Also, the humans would have to calculate said jumps, that much faster- Gaeta is only so good at quantum math.

[@neutchain7838]

​Couple points to note. 1. There is at least 1 Cylon on the Galactica ( Boomer ) so they could never lose the Cylons. they would just follow them there. 2. The Colonials have to calculate the next jump and becasue their jump and nav computers are not networked ( no computer networks on Galactica ) it takes time. Then they need to validate the calculations, then distribute it to the fleet. They will address this in a later episode. Also after every jump ( not talking about this episode but in general ), the first thing they do is plot a jump and send everyone to the fleet. In case of trouble they all jump to those coordinates so they dont have to waste time with calculations. 3. The Cylon FTL tech is superior to the Colonial's ( they also have networks so computing and processing stuff is much faster ). They can jump faster and further so they held all the cards in that situation. Their jump tech will also be addressed in a later episode. Did not go into details becasue those would be heavy spoilers.

[@sparrowlt]

My take is that they probably had allready tried jumping sooner but the Cylons still showed 33m later. Also the feat in this episode is really incredibly from their point or view as jumping is really straining for the ships FTL drives and structures.. jumps are usualy reserved for inter-colony travel between the 12 systems , even within the same system they usually fly real space (as evidenced when the FTL capable Colonian Heavy-798 ship took hours to fly in real space to Galactica instead of instantly jump there) and here they performed 240 jumps in 5 days.. ships were allready beginning to show problems in their FTL drives and probably fuel consumption would be a big problem at this point as every jump requires fuel

[@TroubleSturm]

The sudden drumbeat with flashes of things we've seen earlier in the episode was marking where the commercial break was. It was to give viewers a quick refresh of their memories of the show so far.

[@fen3184]

I remember how surprised you were when we first met Mormons in The Expanse; so, it might surprise you that religion and faith are important in BSG - the original series was written by a Mormon... ;)

[@SFNmooby]

I would argue that faith & religion are a major character in this series.

[@SevenWondersProd]

The blurb of preview at the beginning of each episodes is a nod to a science fiction show from the 70s called Space 1999. That show also previewed the upcoming events in a similar fashion.

[@walletracer9882]

For this episode, many of the actors decided to keep themselves awake several days prior to filming. In addition, many of the scenes were shot around midnight. The effects of sleep deprivation you see are all real in this episode. Goes to show the level of detail and commitment they put into this series.

[@stpnwlf9]

One of the best episodes of television I have ever watched! This one - 33 - is a masterpiece.

[@richardtaylor1652]

33 is easily one of the best Sci-fi episodes written full stop.

[@Sephiroth144]

@@richardtaylor1652 Best episodes regardless of genre, end of line.

[@richardtaylor1652]

@@Sephiroth144 It should be pointed out that there was a bit of a gap between when the Miniseries and 33 aired. 33 manages to condense the 2 part miniseires into a 42 minute episode. And it does it brilliantly.

[@Sephiroth144]

@@richardtaylor1652 I am aware; hell, I was one of those people who saw the Miniseries when it aired and got to "enjoy" the wait between that and season 1

[@Mandragoron]

A masterpiece? A episode there ppl dont have duty shifts on a battleship? like complety normal thing for humans? Thats just bad writing not "masterpiece"

[@notthestatusquo7683]

I had been meaning to watch this show for years and seeing you react to it finally made me take the plunge. I've binged through the first two seasons already. It's soooo good.

[@peterwolf4157]

Just wondering if anyone else noticed Serenity coming in for a landing at 14:45 on the first miniseries episode? When Roslyn is getting her cancer diagnosis. The creators were Firefly fans, there are other ships scattered throughout the series.

[@tymiller176]

idk how anyone can't like Boltar as a character. IMO he's one of the most interesting characters in television.

[@matthewteague623]

one can be fascinated with the character, and thoroughly enjoy every scene he's in, while itching for them to face the consequences of their actions. Much like [REDACTED], [REDACTED], [REDACTED], and [REDACTED] on Babylon 5. Among others.

[@dirkbester9050]

@@matthewteague623 OMG, [REDACTED] was so smug and annoying!

[@joseliano325]

The nature of “Head Six” was kept ambiguous intentionally, for a long time. As you probably already noticed, she usually appears when Baltar is under stress, and she gives him hints and ideas that help him solve problems -but she never says anything that he could not have come up with on his own. So she might just be a figment of his imagination; a product of his sense of guilt. A manifestation of some internal dialogue. Or she could be something more real, one of many, many possibilities. 🤔 Great character, great concept.

[@wdrean]

I agree. And it's best to keep ones mind very open about her nature. I absolutely love about this show.

[@raymondamador1487]

Every channel needs a Xander. This show gets better. The fans really like answering your questions. lol ☮️

[@mhlevy]

I remember watching this episode live, when it first played, and I was absolutely floored. There was no way this was a TV show put on by a SciFi network! As I recall, this episode won several awards, and it was amazing how it kept the viewer just holding their breath! Regarding the metal Cylons, when you mentioned the "OG Cylons," technically the one chasing Helo was a NG (New Generation) Cylon. If you remember from the mini-series, they had other, blocky metal cylons, from the first series. As the "hot Cylon" said, "they're still in use..."

[@DeaconBlues117]

The ones chasing Helo are the current edition of the old "chrome toaster" models. The old blocky ones from the original series are seen only in the museum, and in a couple of scenes in the web-series "Blood and Chrome" (which deals with some of Bill Adama's adventures in the First Cylon War).

[@randymarple9830]

I have seen this series 20+ times, and I find out new things every time. It doesn't get old. at all.

[@TheGeezerGeek]

Some points for you. The wall of pictures is all the lost or missing people of the colonies. This is in honor of families who posted photos on street lamps in NYC in the days after the 9/11 attacks, missing photos for their lost family members. Think of the Galactica as a US aircraft carrier. The creators actually toured a real carrier to learn how to add real military protocol to the series. The 12 Cylon models, each one has a role or purpose. The Six model is the seducers, but the one in Baltar's mind is something different and fans and the creators call her "Head Six". You are on a fantastic voyager now. I remember sitting in 1978 watching the original BSG. Trek, Babylon 5, Lost in Space, Firefly, and BSG (but not in that order)

[@whoarocket]

The actor who plays Helo is also in the show Dollhouse. It's got a great concept, where there's a secret (illegal) organization that takes volunteers to become "dolls". They have their original personality backed up on a hard drive and then mind wiped. Rich and powerful people can then request them for various purposes with custom imprinted personalities. It's a fascinating story and great writing and acting. Also, it's a Joss Whedon show, so great all around quality. I hope you will consider watching it on the channel someday.

[@sandwiched]

For some reason, this episode stuck with me ever since my first time watching it. I think it really conveyed the feeling of the hopelessness that humanity's remnants go through after a catastrophic disaster, and I loved every minute of it. Perhaps my favorite scene was when they had just gotten the "good" news about the Olympic Carrier's reappearance and were generally pleased, but then the camera shows Adama, skepticism and doubt and suspicion writ large on his face, and he's just like, "...action stations! Start the clock". SO so good! EJO is easily my favorite actor in the entire show, and that's fully due to his excellence, and not a slight against anyone else.

[@andybiz4273]

As a current military member and someone who loves sci-fi and plays lots of games with various forms of rank structure, I love how BSG combined the naval and army ranks into a mostly-combined (but still separatable) rank structure!

[@tbirdguy1]

That little tiny glimmer of hope at the end... that's just amazing writing.

[@dukecunning7046]

36:36 "Anyone could be a Cylon." Remember, in the mini-series they told us that there were 12 models...

[@matthewteague623]

Someone told Adama that. But who? And were they honest? If they were honest, were they mistaken? These are all possibilities that you'd have to consider if you were Adama, Roslin, or any of the command staff.

[@flygarfpv3496]

In order to protect yourself from eyeroll related injury - keep in mind that the religious references aren't an attempt to proselytize or convert you. You have to view it like an anthropologist. It's not there to make YOU believe - but it is an important part of what the CHARACTERS believe, and shapes their thoughts and attitudes - and you need to view it in that light.

[@drach420]

These episodes released in the few years after 9/11, when things were still extremely fresh. The wall of pictures that started as a "have you seen them?" posting quickly turned into a moment to those that were lost. The imagery of Dee going to the wall directly evoked imagery fresh in zeitgeist from 9/11.

[@Knightfang1]

The dark themes and Paranoia in this show was very intentional. this show came out in the aftermath of 9/11 and it built on that aesthetic. you are supposed to be scared for these characters and be unsure who you can trust. A bit of backstory lore on the colonies. their most ancient texts say the 12 tribes of man came from a planet called Kobol to create the Colonies and that a 13th tribe left Kobol on a different path and settled on Earth

[@andreraymond6860]

There are two series you should put on your watch list for later. The first is Dollhouse (which Joss Whedon put into production after Firefly got cancelled). Dollhouse went into production just as Galactica ended so it inherited a few cast members who were working in Vancouver at the time. The other series is The Leftovers, created by Damon Lindeloff when he finished LOST. It shares a lot of that show's genius and its DNA. It only ran three seasons with a total of 27 hours so it's a fairly short watch but it packs a huge and satisfying punch.

[@christopherwatters6813]

Great reaction video, funnylilgal! This was a great way to start season one, showcasing one of the many moral dilemma's the crew of the Galactica face on a regular basis now that humanity is on the run and fearing extinction. This show handled it's serious topics very well and is still very relevant to this day. I'm glad you chose to react to Battlestar Galactica and I plan on being here for the full journey. So say we all!

[@Taikaru]

Babylon 5 is my favorite sci-fi show. It had a carefully planned story and delivered on it, with outstandingly unique characters, without dragging on or creating misleading plots threads to confuse the viewer. And for non-TV.... definitely Xenogears and Xenosaga on Playstation 1 and 2. Still blowing my mind decades later, and nothing else has really rivaled them in scope. (Although Chained Echoes, which I haven't finished, by most accounts may actually come close.)

[@KthulhuXxx]

It's a shame that real life continually messed with the B5 storyline, though. Most notably with the 5th season being cancelled, then uncancelled, but there was also Micheal O'Hare's illness, and a few other ways that real life intervened on occasion.

[@sparrowlt]

@@KthulhuXxx Also there still a big chunk of untold B5 lore (the Drakh and Telepath wars, the drakh plage resolution and the whole Centauri Prime drakh crisis resolution wich takes place shortly before Sleeping in light and the shadow tech conspiracy that was still going on earth force that was going to be dealed with in Crusade) most of it was told in novels but JMS still makes new films (Lost Tales and now Road to Earth) totally standalone and unrelated with any of those plots... even when now they went animated wich allows to use any character despite the actor being sadly gone.. they could tell the retake of the Centauri Republic and Vir raise to power and their final return to the interstellar alliance but no.. lets have another standalone irrelevant adventure..

[@dark.cheshire.1065]

Babylon 5 remains my favorite franchise as well. No other show has made me care so much about it's characters to the point of literal tears throughout the seasons. The themes woven into the story remain relevant even today. A shame that there are so few reactions for the show. I know many would be immediately turned off by the dated FX before giving the show a chance. I hope the new movie "Road to Home" does well, so we may get more of the B5 story told, if only in animated form.

[@ChibiHoshiDragon]

My fav as well. Made even better when JMS made a tweet calling out certain fans who voted a certain way and stated they didn't understand the show.

[@TheNoybusiness]

@@KthulhuXxx And yet they still managed to make it to five seasons despite any obstacles thrown their way. Probably wouldn't have happened in today's TV ecosystem.

[@travishoffman3347]

This show totally parallelled what was happening in the real world (2004-2009) and was social commentary on the post 9/11 polical environment and the war on terror that was going on Iraq and Afghanistan.

[@disorientedbear]

33 is one of my favorite episode of BSG. It was an incredible start to the story. I hope you enjoy the rest as we (at least I) enjoying watching them with you. It is another chance to watch it again, for the first time. Skål!

[@rajwahi7387]

One detail I love during the climax: when Lee is counting down before firing on the Olympic Carrier, his voice is firm and steady until he says "mark." In that last syllable you can hear his voice breaking, and you realize it's taking everything he has not to throw up.

[@Codametal]

I LOVE the speculation, Angela. But you have NO IDEA what's coming. I hope you enjoy this as much as I did when I first watched it. This is so exciting for m to see you go through this series. This show ranks right up there with Babylon 5 from back in the day.

[@sergioaccioly5219]

No shade on BSG, but B5 is better. The Londo/ G'Kar arc is great, and done ten years before BSG. I doubt there would be a BSG without B5.

[@Codametal]

@@sergioaccioly5219 Absolutely. In fact, I'm going to watch B5 from beginning to end again.

[@darransmith32]

Babylon5>>>Battlestar>>>Firefly>>>Expanse is a chain of thought that started in the 90's that went "lets take Sci-Fi seriously" instead of the usual "fluffier", less weighty sci-fi shows like Star Trek, Stargate and Farscape (which are good shows of a completely different and more traditional feel). In much the same way Game of Thrones gave a more serious take on Fantasy. Haven't watched Babylon 5 in decades (i imagine i'd find the FX laughable by todays standards) but it was the first Sci_Fi show i remember being "intelligent".

[@mizrolist]

@@darransmith32 Firefly as a show is older than BSG, but I agree.

[@Codametal]

@@darransmith32 The Expanse is the only one I haven't watched yet. I think I've been saving it. But yeah, I've watched all those other ones, and I think...I liked Stargate the least, but that doesn't mean I didn't like it. It's just the other shows were better. But heck, I'll still watch Stargate any day of the week. I have a limited numbered print poster of the Flight of the Fenri from The Nox episode hanging on my wall for the past 20+ years. Oh heck, I even liked watch Buck Rodgers back in the day. And the original BSG. I've even watched the old black and white Flash Gordon when I was a kid. And of all the ships I would love to have a model of, is the Whitestar. That is one bad a-- ship.

[@RScott-gj3pm]

I love how they put the work into the details to make sure that head-count on the president's board and the count in the opening credits accurately keep up with the change in the survivor count of individuals within the fleet/human race. There were websites at the time devoted to just tracking to that detail. It was just hands down really great detailed world-building.

[@matthewteague623]

I love love love the BSG reboot. It is a close second to Babylon 5 in my book, and that's about the highest praise I can give a show. This episode, "33", just gives an incredible feel at just how screwed humanity is at this point, just how desperate they are, just how dark the choices they have to make are.

[@fzwilling]

You will notice that some inspiration for both sides comes from the aftermath of 9/11 and subsequent events. The monotheistic Cylon war against the polytheistic Humans forms a religious background and there is gonna be a lot going on during the seasons....The Opening theme is a Hindu mantra btw.

[@FPAlpha]

So great to re-watch the show through your eyes. Back then this was THE show to watch, it was/is so amazing.

[@HistoricalFidelity]

The Galactica cannot jump every 5 minutes because it takes immense computational power to plot a jump, and, without networked computers, it literally takes them 10-15 minutes to plot a successful jump. This is why Galactica will broadcast to the fleet emergency jump coordinates and then continually broadcasts adjusted jump plots for the emergency jump coordinates every 5-10 minutes to account for the vector and displacement of the fleet from the original emergency jump starting point that was calculated (the fleet is always drifting away from said starting point).

[@MrTheageofinformatio]

@funnylilgalreacts i lnow the religion is a huge part of the show. I think the best way to look at it is to think of it in terms as "mythology" and how it connects us as humans. The survivors of the 12 colonies believe in many gods, where the cylons who were made in the image of their creators believe in one true god (monotheism) the cylons are trying so hard to emulate their creators that they now look like them, have a reigious faith, and in caprica six' s case experience human emotions like love. (Hence always kissing every man she comes in contact with).

[@philipsnettleton]

It takes more than 33 minutes to calculate the jump, to send the jump plan to the fleet, for the entire fleet to execute the jump, to land the fighters on Galactica and for Galactica to execute the jump (last). It takes the Cylons exactly 33 minutes to calculate and execute the jump, which is why the combat air group (fighters) and Galaticas defence batteries are required. 33 minutes is about all the time they have to escape or be destroyed.

[@peteturner3928]

Really enjoying your reactions (I feel your pain with Firefly - I miss the big damn verse too), welcome to BSG. I'm 52, so I remember the original 70's version very well indeed, trust me that this is far superior and the cast is stellar - Jamie Bamber (Apollo) is an English actor, its amazing how many people do not pick up on that! (he's great in his small role in Band of Brothers too).

[@dallesamllhals9161]

^not a Hornblower fan? (well, i'm 43yo Jute and I know, Bamber ;-P)

[@peteturner3928]

@@dallesamllhals9161 LOL, no not a fan of swash and buckler dramas! He's great in the UK version of Law and Order too mind.

[@ThinkShink]

I can't wait for you to gradually realize how gangster and awesome Col. Tigh is. He and Adama have infinitely massive spirit beards. The flaws are on front street with him in the early goings, but you'll find he is doing everything in his role that he believes to be right and/or necessary, and his pain and alcohol are kept as private as possible, with occasional spillover into daily life. Different pictures emerge and the love/hate list goes through some real tumult over time. Greatest show ever.

[@JP-dw9tv]

I completely agree with everything you said about the women in this show being full fledged people, instead of caricatures. To date, BSG has the best written female characters I’ve ever seen on TV. Not because they’re all amazing and powerful, but because they all feel like and are treated like real actual PEOPLE first and foremost. I love the show for that, and so much more. Super excited to see your reactions going forward.

[@Seth-fg4ho]

One of my all-time favorite shows, but there are so few reactions to it on KZbin. Failwhale also started, so maybe more youtubers will start to become intrigued. Glad to see you're enjoying it. You're in for a wild ride and a great deal of character development... even the ones you don't like yet. :)

[@l.piloto7964]

I really love, not just watching but, feeling the show with you, thank you Angela 🥰. You're a Betazoid aren't you. Thats how you can break through our emotional defenses and make us feel with you.

[@riffgroove]

I live in Vancouver. Born and raised here. A lot of the fun for me was watching this show as it aired and recognizing all the outdoor locations in and around the city that were used to film this. Had a couple of struggling actor friends appear as extras on it as well.

[@danielskinner5346]

In the original edit of the episode all the passengers were clearly still on board and Lee could see them. But that was too damn dark and so was edited out. But in my head cannon I still believe they're aboard

[@Sephiroth144]

As does Lee (and frankly the writers too)

[@Twisted-View]

Me amd my housemate used to watch together, each episode has a mini spoiler at the start. We closed our eyes during the music to miss it

[@davidmcleod5133]

Only by the most technical of definitions do I say “The series goes downhill from here…” because this is actually my favorite episode of the series! 😆

[@DeaconBlues117]

I respectfully disagree (I'd be torn between "Water" and "Exodus pt 2"), but I can certainly understand.

[@pauldavis5665]

I don't understand why people are saying that, like this is the only great episode. The show has a LOT of great episodes.

[@davidmcleod5133]

@@pauldavis5665 Okay, reread what I said, and really try and comprehend the words being used. Pop quiz: where do I say there are no more great episodes?

[@pauldavis5665]

@@davidmcleod5133 You said the series keeps going downhill from here. I strongly disagree, there are a lot of great episodes just as good as this one.

[@lawrencenull]

Both the writers and actors were fantastic on this show. The director the producers, the music, we'll never see the like again.

[@edinalewis4704]

I don't know how you are managing to watch just one episode at a time, you must have super-human discipline! My experience with Battlestar Galactica was much more like this: (No Spoilers) kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4rNfaWAh9qApLs

[@Riddler0603]

That's great! And so true..

[@torbenkristiansen2742]

Love the intro to the reaction series. Very professionally made, with the proper fonts. Had to dig up the mini-series in its own package while watching everything on DVD, and there is more separate content coming up. Probably best to watch it more or less as it was initially released. But there are some seriously useful story gap fillers coming up later, as separate content. I would rate it as "unmissable", in relation to the main story. Because it was made within the proper time frame, and thus feels like it is properly connected. But these are still the early days! Until gone super fast of course. Time is just a window, the curtains hide the speed!

[@Dreamfox-df6bg]

Living outside the US I got the miniseries on DVD when those came out followed by the series also on DVD. Favourite Sci-Fi series? Babylon 5, no question there. They originally planned it to have a story arc spanning 5 seasons, but due slight problems the story was told in 4 seasons with the 5th season telling it's own story. But you notice how the story was planned, because you can see it progress as do the characters.

[@TheNoybusiness]

Babylon 5 is one of the pinnacles of television storytelling. Dark Matter is also a good scifi show that was planned to have a five-season arc, but was cancelled after three seasons because Syfy execs resented it was more watched than the Syfy Originals where they could make money on merchandising and international distribution (which they couldn't on Dark Matter because it was a co-production with Canada's Prodigy Pictures).

[@ScarlettM]

About Boomer on Caprica and on Galactica: it's up to you of course, but usually the one on Galactica is called Boomer and the one on Caprica is called Sharon. To avoid confusion.

[@crystalfire5564]

I watched the original Battlestar Galactica so I already had an idea of things before this came out. I’m pretty sure I watched the mini series first as well. Star Trek has been my favourite series for years but now that I watched The Expanse (and started reading the books) I’m not sure which one is my favourite.

[@rustynix993]

This is one of my favorite episodes. The 33minutes is intense and great. Also what is great? Your REACTICA logo. 10/10 stars, so say we all.

[@blackpaw29]

Something I don't think I've seen covered, but if Starbuck was in a relationship with Zak, no way should she have been in charge of training him - thats the fault of her superiors.

[@MikeArelliShreds]

Only thing I can think of as a loophole to this, is if perhaps their relationship wasn't public until after he "passed". I honestly don't remember the timing, or if it's stated when Adama knew. It's more likely it's just one of those they didn't think about that when writing it, because you are right.

[@Darth_Kael]

It can also be considered a symptom of the state of society. They were on the tail end of 50 years of peace with an enemy that had completely disappeared from the public consciousness. As we see from the pilot they were gradually opening up to more modern and interconnected systems (they mention how backwards Galactica appears compared to "modern technology"). Without the constant pressure of actual conflict the rules and regs started to get lax.

[@MikeArelliShreds]

@@Darth_Kael Actually yes, I didn't think of this, that flies because of Boomer/Chief. They let if fly because there wasn't a war.

[@daffyduck3773]

I don't think that Sam Witwer character have a name . He have a call sign which I don't think they mentioned it in the episode so I will not say it , but they will in the next few episodes for sure and you will remember it is pretty unique . As for favorite Sci Fi I think I mentioned it before it's The Expanse , BSG , Firefly and then goes like Farscape , Star Trek TNG and list go on . Actually when you are done with BSG you could maybe give it a try with Farscape . Pretty awesome show .

[@cx3valenz421]

I think his call sign is xxxxxxxxxxx

[@W0NK042]

@@cx3valenz421 - "I don't think they mentioned it in the episode *so I will not say it* " 😉

[@cx3valenz421]

@@W0NK042 ReaDinG cOmprEhenSioN. Lol. She’s on ep3 so I think it’s ok. But I’ll erase. LOL

[@barran62]

Hi Angela! Nice to see you watching another of my favorite shows! Colonel Tigh (pronounced TIE) is the XO (Executive Officer). In the Expanse, Holden was briefly the XO of the Canterbury. The XO is the the second in command. Spock was Kirk’s XO.

[@ferchrissakes]

Six kissing everyone is odd, yes. The whole thing about human-looking cylons is odd to begin with. Why would they bother? But from what Six has said so far, she - or her model anyway - wants, to some degree, to understand humans and this whole “being alive” thing. And Six’s thing is sensuality and sexuality (and, apparently, religion), so that’s how she approaches experiencing things it seems. Six is pure id, basically.

[@eazolan]

And apparently her thing is baby murdering.

[@sergioaccioly5219]

Eventually the writers got tired ofthis schtick and moved on. Thank the Godsw. Tricia helfer deserved (and got) better material to act on as the series progressed.

[@ferchrissakes]

@@sergioaccioly5219 Agreed!

[@greglux8317]

I had my reservations about their choice for Starbuck, but she nailed it!

[@BryonLape]

Who else is looking forward to episode 2.10?

[@pauldavis5665]

Definitely a big turning point in the show. As well as the season 2 finale.

[@ldkinbote]

One of the things about the myth of Earth that was a HUGE selling point for me as a little kid when first series came out in the 70s was this idea that they had this 13th colony that had been lost for so long that, supposedly, went to Earth (when you first started watching the original movie, you thought this was us only WAY in the future) so you realize that they're suggesting that these people were the ones that seeded human life on Earth or they helped ancient civilizations (the whole Ancient Aliens concept), which is why there were things in their culture that reminded us of stuff we have. Like the Viper pilot helmets looked reminiscent of ancient Egyptians depicted in hieroglyphics and their planets/colonies and ships were reminiscent of Zodiac and some ancient Greek and Roman constellation names. As a kid, that was enough for me to be like, "This is SO COOL!!" The old show also had different terms for measurements instead of hours, minutes, seconds, months, years, etc., they had other words like centons, centaurs and other things that I've forgotten that if you listen long enough (not that long) you could figure out the one-to-one correlation of those words from context clues. They also had swear words you could get from context, which seem to be the only things this show kept from the language stuff of the old show. There's felgercarb (which you only hear a couple of times on this series) which means "shit" and frak which I'm pretty sure you can guess what that's a substitute for. 😁

[@MolnarG007]

IMPORTANT: Every episode starts with a short opening scene. BUT then it is followed by a short montage of the current episode, with HUGE spoilers! So when you hear the drum beat look other way! When The drum beat part ends all good, watch episode.

[@Yggdrasil42]

I wouldn't call them huge spoilers personally. I watched them when the show aired and didn't feel spoiled. Without context they're just teasers. But sure, if you wanna go in as blind as possible definitly close your eyes.

[@MolnarG007]

Not all of them have spoliers, but some do, i remember one which spoiled an episode for me completely. SKIP.

[@m.e.3862]

I actually like the way they're edited and the clips are quick enough that you don't really have any context . Then again I grew up watching these types of teasers for TV shows so they're not a deal breaker for me

[@pauldavis5665]

Not really spoilers. Just a bunch of quick clips without any context behind them to get you hyped for the episode.

[@vetrais7965]

Just a curiosity as there's lots of people giving varying opinions on that part of the opening, but do you consider watching a trailer as being a spoiler?

[@Logan_Baron]

"I don't know if...." "I don't know who....." "I don't know" "I don't know" "I don't know". The good news is that that doesn't put you behind in the game. That's exactly how you are supposed to be with this show right now.

[@damianpryde2777]

Happy to see you continuing this! Great series.

[@Gnomojo]

This makes me absolutely SO happy! Thank you ange.

[@Blaed13]

this show is an icon. so happy you're stepping onboard.

[@ItsZakW]

In terms of the ranks think Airforce meets Navy, for William Adama, his rank is Commander (in this instance for the BSG universe hes closer to a Commodore cause hes in charge of the fleet), Saul Tigh is a Colonel and his position on Galactica is Executive Officer (First Officer) and thats shortened to XO, Apollo is a Captain, Starbuck is a Lieutenant so on and so forth

[@ItsZakW]

Also, I've seen a few reaction channels skip the intro flash after the opening scene as that flash gives away some of the episode, sometimes its master-crafted others it gives too much away

[@randylewis840]

I'm subscribed and I'm joining you on this journey! I'm rewatching the whole series myself. PLEASE keep watching, Seasons 1 and 2 are crazy good.

[@leonardodavid4670]

They don't make people cylons; They can't jump every 5 mins, they need time to recharge the jump drives; Gayus Baltar, Saul Tie, Adama, Lee, Starbuck, Dee, Laura, and others, very unique and great characters.

[@offilawNoone]

I have watched this show three times already. Recently we were discussing different series at work and I mentioned this one. And here on KZbin your video is recommended to me. And now I have reached the middle of the first season. There will be many twists and turns at the end. P.S. Google is definitely listening to us. It's not the first time this has happened:-)

[@Serlewsh]

This is the best episodes in the series. One of the best episodes of any scifi written in the last 20-30 years.

[@hobiwan9597]

Hi Angela - thank you for giving me something to look forward to every week!!