Battlestar Galactica | Dr Robert is A Racist!

Dr Roberts has a personal hatred toward Sagittarions and doesn't want to save any of their lives.
From Season 3 Episode 14 'The Women King', A sickness has broken out amongst the more than 300 displaced civilians forced to live aboard Galactica in the unused starboard hangar bay which has been nicknamed "Camp Oil Slick" and later "Dogsville". Part of the hangar has been sectioned off into a medical ward where Captain "Helo" Agathon helps direct the sick to beds while a Caprican physician, Dr. Michael Robert, examines a boy named Willie King. Willie's mother causes a scene when she protests Dr. Robert's examination, stating their Sagittarion faith rejects modern medicine. Dualla, a "Sag" herself, tries to convince the Kings that Robert is here to help them, but Mrs. King seems overly terrified of Dr. Robert.
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[@andrewstephen2359]

I like how Tigh addressed Helo by his rank at the end. Showing him some much earned respect and probably as close to an apology as Tigh is capable of.

[@gnomesaiyan1680]

Karl Agathon, Colonial Detective. Probably my favorite, most under-utilized character on the show.

[@HuxtableK]

And the show almost did away with him in the first season.

[@Akaeus]

Agathon means "good or virtuous man"... he always does what is morally and universally right. One of the best men serving Adama

[@mattmanw54301]

I love how Helo never backed off from what he believed. This ep and the one with the cylon disease plan are the best examples

[@KingreX32]

Helo actually annoyed the hell out of me in that Cylon disease episode.

[@WillNelson73]

@@KingreX32 agreed. I found Helo to be self-righteous and obnoxious in the Cylon disease episode

[@alduintheanti-dragonborn]

@@WillNelson73 Honestly, he should've gone with a more logical approach than a moral one. The moment the Cylons know that they're on death's door, guess who they'll invite with them?

[@jonothandoeser]

He MUST back off in the age of COVID!

[@HuxtableK]

@@WillNelson73 But it's entirely consistent with his character.

[@robertyellow8493]

The Sagittarons owe Helo a debt of gratitude.

[@christopherberry3036]

As many times I used to see this show advertised on Syfy (then SciFi) as a kid and never watched it, I have to admit the usage of a science fiction setting to confronted contentious real world subjects was well written. Unfortunately there are doctors like Dr. Robert in reality.

[@paulcoy9060]

We don't believe in science! Also, we live on a spaceship that can travel faster than light. Me: Sounds legit.

[@Beerbottles123]

Welcome to the human race. You can build the most technological advance civilization ever, but human stupidity never changes.

[@MrAlkylation]

it's same today with Amish

[@roguishpaladin]

@@MrAlkylation No, the Amish wouldn't be on the spaceship. I can at least respect some level of consistency there. No, today it's the same with the anti-maskers, the flat-earthers, the QAnon conspiracists - the ones who lack the ability to comprehend the proof against what they believe that they demand to see.

[@halwakka504]

@@MrAlkylation It's the same today with a giant swath of the population. They don't mind the benefits that result from science and progress but they don't really believe the science.

[@rageagaintstheNWO]

@@halwakka504 They wouldn't lift a finger to contribute to it but the enjoy the benefits.

[@KoriePrince]

My god, this episode hits even harder now than it did back then.

[@Frostblitz20]

I mean he has one point I would of given the vaccines to the viper pilots first as without them their would be no fleet left.

[@kinbolluck476]

I WOULD INJECT THEIR BUMS

[@aguilayserpiente]

The Tuskegee experiment and small pox blanket episodes in history are explored in this scene. Themes of group think, absence of medical ethics, resistance to critical thinking, and a breakdown in Weberian organizational control are other themes.

[@jmferr2011]

RIP, Donnelly Rhodes.

[@antred11]

Aw man, I didn't even know he's gone. Just looked him up on Wikipedia. :(

[@sartainja]

Great actor.

[@jkdbuck7670]

Wasnt Dr Robert the same one hating on the mutants in X-Men???

[@jjayguy23]

LMAO. I think so!!! LOL

[@ExtraordinaryJackson]

Yeah, I think he was a senator. He bursts into a puddle of water. When ever I overeat, I always think of that scene.

[@brianlindee588]

In Steven Kings kingdom hospital he also played murderous doctor

[@pspicer777]

We all have our prejudices. It is just a matter of which at to what degree. This is an excellent examination of the idea.

[@kinbolluck476]

90% is dum dum

[@pspicer777]

@@kinbolluck476 Cool. What do you mean? I figure thete is an insult implied.. not sure why or what exactly.

[@kinbolluck476]

@pspicer777 no doc killed 90% of ppl he didnt like that is dum cus it so obvious

[@SmugCanadian]

If we ever become a multi planet species I wonder if we will change the idea of race to be about what planet you come from like this show.

[@WillNelson73]

Somehow I doubt it. We are too visual for that

[@MannyLectro]

It's already different in Europe. Here in France the term "racism" is mostly used for any type of discrimination based on origins. We don't talk about "races" here, as it reminds us too much of nazis and facism in general, and it's not something recognised by scientists. First time I said to Americans on a game server they were racists (treating me like shit because I was French) I was really surprised to hear them reply it wasn't racism because French was not a race.

[@DartLuke]

In Expance humanity splited into three "races" Earthlings, Martians and Belters

[@jackh3570]

@@MannyLectro Totally agree Americans seem to think racism is only based on skin colour whereas here in Europe we more often think of it as in nationality.

[@alduintheanti-dragonborn]

@@DartLuke Dumb question, but who are the Belters? I sadly don't watch Expanse that often ;-;

[@majfauxpas]

Me: Worst BSG episode ever, humans aren’t that dumb, we remember Nuremberg. 2021: Humans are dumber than you think.

[@bluemassgamer17]

Common sense isnt that common my friend

[@hollywoodwerewolf]

Many things in the Fleet had to be rationed. Two things they never ran out of was paper and alcohol.

[@mhiggins6307]

Of course they never ran out of paper, the would always cut the corners off to reuse it.

[@zeraith]

When I looked at this shit, all I could think of was lock up the sagittarons in their own ship if they dont want medicine. Simple as that. They can follow the fleet around but there's a whole lot of space between them and the rest of the fleet. If they don't want to accept treatment then they should be nowhere near the population that wants it. End of discussion.

[@alduintheanti-dragonborn]

But despite their beliefs, they did want the medicine. Such a shame about the doctor though.

[@jamesxiaolong2199]

I doubt the fleet could afford to reorganize the ships in such a way.

[@roystonlodge]

@@jamesxiaolong2199 Meanwhile, in the real world, where COVID resulted in massive lockdowns...

[@roystonlodge]

They can't just lock everybody down just because there's a virus spreading through the population! It's Galactica, not Canada! Topical joke is topical. ;-)

[@jamesxiaolong2199]

@@roystonlodge unfortunately for the colonials they didn’t have space nor the residencies to really spread out or shut down for a lockdown.

[@henry222ist]

He just proved that they were right for not wanting the injection LOL

[@troy8613]

Art imitates life.

[@ignaciomartinez8501]

did this guy kill more colonists than Gaeta?

[@attackofthecopyrightbots]

probably not

[@artbandit8364]

I think this story line would have been better if Dr. Roberts wasn't intentionally killing people. Made the morality too black and white. If he wasn't intentionally killing people, the story line could have been about what to do when certain people's customs put the ENTIRE fleet in danger. Would have lead to a deeper moral question, especially if the Sagittarions claim persecution while spreading a deadly disease to other groups of people.

[@Zorak30]

The story was made to reflect society and terrorism after 9/11. People were being killed because of religious beliefs or lack of them by terrorist. The writers and show creator infused that into the show quite often. For me, I feel like if the show was too black and white that happened because a lot of events that do occur in the world sometimes are black and white.

[@artbandit8364]

I suppose the story line could reflect people being killed by terrorism. The doctor could reflect a Muslim in society. Everyone believes he is helping people and being a good part of the group, only to later hurt people because the they believe different things than him. This is an interesting insight. Thank you.

[@troyroberts5450]

Agreed

[@erentheca]

Good point. The fact he was so easily exposed was also contrived. The 12 colonies were wiped out, with most people escaping with only the clothes on their backs, yet Dr. Robert makes it out with years of intact PAPER medical records, which are conveniently located on Galactica for Helo to peruse at his leisure. Yeah, ok.

[@BigBlueJake]

@@erentheca Ok, all I have to go on are these clips from the show, but also IRL medical situations on deployments. Helo said the records were from New Caprica, and they look like they are from basic public health records (births, deaths, outbreaks, etc.) Lists people keep and fill in however they can-sometimes typed, sometimes by hand-but basic.

[@YIIMM]

RIP Mr Rhodes

[@troyoliver4784]

1 min 47 sec in. There is a (presumably roman) helmet sitting on a shelf behind Tigh. I just wanted to mention that idk

[@scarface1138]

Julian Bashir would go farther than helo

[@BigBlueJake]

Bashir is a doctor, Helo is a Raptor pilot. Evidently there is no public health type person to do epidemiological investigations, but at least the military guys can look for patterns.

[@drmayeda1930]

@@BigBlueJake I don't know what drew his interest but it's a good thing he did. Last thing they need is an epidemic affecting the fighter pilots.

[@harvestcanada]

How statistics on mortality rates saved the Sagittarians.

[@hfredydl]

So many triggered people here! The storyline is a metaphor for racist doctors who have done very much what this doctor has done... neglectful care because of conscious racist beliefs

[@sminkycorp]

Yep my 20 years ago Ugandan Dr from _REDACTED_ fits this bill.

[@carlycrays2831]

It wasn't just neglectful. This guy was actively trying to kill these people.

[@leow637]

@@carlycrays2831 Yeah it's an exaggeration for dramatic purposes (any real life medical council would have picked up a 90% death rate of one group of people under his care too) but it *is* based on the real life principles of biased neglect that some health care professionals show even today.

[@roystonlodge]

No, it's Sagittaron propaganda! Ron Moore is clearly a Sagittaron asset! Misinformation! Fake news!

[@fordwk]

Sagittarions are poor and mixed...so how does race come in?

[@Hadesthief]

Race in this show is based around which of the colonies they came from.

[@attackofthecopyrightbots]

man these comments he LITERALLY calls him a racist in the show I think the showrunners know what theyre talking about more than you guys

[@carlycrays2831]

The sad thing is that people just don't want to feel uncomfortable, so they would rather believe that this doctor wasn't a racist.

[@attackofthecopyrightbots]

@@carlycrays2831 its fucking ridiculous. like Ive got people in other comments still telling me im wrong despite this

[@carlycrays2831]

@@attackofthecopyrightbots I know! Some of these comments were from two years ago and they are still trying to defend it. I just...really? I really love the people who are trying to explain that racism and bigotry are such different things from each other, as if that makes this serial killer justified. You know what's worse? We know from past episodes that doctors on New Caprica were treating both Cylon and human patients. Since this guy is still alive, he must have done a reasonably good job in treating his Cylon patients. This means that this guy is so racist that he would rather give adequate care to the people who destroyed humanity than people he has spent his whole life hating for no reason. And the people defending him just don't see a problem with that.

[@attackofthecopyrightbots]

@@carlycrays2831 of course they dont theyre warped haha

[@Chino56751]

What kind of absurdity are these Sagnittarions on ?!

[@GameslordXY]

Agent Washington They are like Mormons I think. Most extreme ones. Perhaps I am wrong.

[@ryandtibbetts2962]

More like Christian Scientists, I think.

[@Jokie155]

Welcome to atheism, where nasty behaviour and venomous assaults reign supreme.

[@Trex-or6cd]

Jokie155 nasty behavior? And who exactly did he assault? You? How Is calling religion stupid an assault? And where did you make the leap from this person is an asshole to this view of the world is nasty and causes people to be assaulted? Think before you write!!!

[@badger5079]

They are based upon people from Byron Bay in Australia who refuse to vaccinate their children against measles.

[@FrankWolenczak]

At time index 6:48 they could have pulled the camera back some

[@richardmoloney689]

Great. I'd forgotten about this.

[@QueerlyBeloved386]

I mean ... if this isn't timely now more than ever? #Covid19

[@alduintheanti-dragonborn]

Yeah this particular video hasn't aged well.

[@nemoanon5615]

Definitely not big picture people, the sagittarons.

[@joeyboedeker7205]

Both Jan and Dean were on BSG.?)))) Very cool

[@greatwitchallah7080]

I didn't know.

[@SilentReflection101]

My pleasure sir.

[@dreamcore]

Is Robert /our doctor/?

[@marcelgendron]

I thought they were Sagittarians.!

[@WillofDD]

See this is how you write a race relations metaphor. It's subtle and woven into the narrative with nuance. It treats the audience like it's intelligent rather than thinking we're dumbdumbs that need to be spoonfed everything.

[@roystonlodge]

Subtle?

[@jakobkiilerich3588]

So sagittaron is the Karen planet?

[@tHeWasTeDYouTh]

no they are more of a planet of Jehova's Witness

[@bingbongabinga2954]

Culturist

[@missleeogilvieraygaal]

Pisces

[@revelations420]

#notallSagiterions

[@greatwitchallah7080]

I have friends and family.

[@CitanulsPumpkin]

This episode hits differently post covid, and after seeing the "anti-medicine" fanatics actively campaign for the end of civilization as we know it.

[@CrimsonSurvival]

It wasn’t race, it was religion…

[@Hadesthief]

It wasn't religion; the people he was killing were the ones breaking with their religion and seeking medical attention. He hates all Sagittarons, not just the religious ones.

[@Man-O-Little-Tan]

The religion was based on one planet primarily so maybe not race but nationality or ethnicity

[@Zorak30]

This was based on religion and the beliefs the people of that religion lived by... Wrong word...

[@matth1589]

"A race is a grouping of humans based on shared physical or social qualities into categories generally viewed as inherently distinct by society. First used to refer to speakers of a common language and then to denote national affiliations, by the 17th century the term race began to refer to physical (phenotypical) traits. Modern scholarship regards race as a social construct, that is, a symbolic identity created to establish some cultural meaning." I think you are misunderstanding the term.

[@Zorak30]

Not really. I think bigotry is a better description of what is taking place in this episode of Battlestar Galactica. Bigot - a person who is intolerant of those holding different opinions. At the end of the day, religion is a belief system based on the opinions of people following that religion. Christianity itself is one word to describe people who believe in the same general god. However, there are literally hundreds if not thousands of variations based on that one religion solely stemming from the follower's opinions on the interpretations of the bible. Using your definition all those different groups of Christians could be considered races. No one talks this way that I know of. I don't know of one single person who uses race to describe social constructs of people. I'd be hard-pressed to go out onto the street and get a definition like that from anyone. At best you can use this word to generally describe what is depicted in this video clip but I believe bigot is more descriptive and accurate. The doctor was judging them based on their beliefs they followed from their religion. Which can be viewed as opinions. Each tribe in Battlestar Galactica had a different version of their religion. In this particular episode, the doctor had a dislike of these people based on bigoted views of their religion. He didn't agree with their lifestyles. He thought they were a drain on the fleets medical resources based on how they lived. Not based on how their physical appearance. I'm also applying the word racist as most people use it in modern times which refers to the physical attributes of people described near the end of the definition that you posted. Not historically. Someone who is viewing videos on youtube is not going to see the word racist and put as much thought into the definition of it going back to earlier times when it could have been used more broadly to fit whatever it is you are trying to make it fit. There were better words to describe the behavior displayed by the asshole doctor in this episode of Battlestar Galactica. That is really my only point. I don't agree with your application of the word in this regard.

[@benlowe1701]

You missed the whole point, didn't you? People were dying due to the actions of a racist, and their deaths were dismissed because they belonged to a particular marginalised community. Their religious beliefs turned out to have nothing to do with the spate of deaths. That was the whole point. If people had been less dismissive of that group of people, they'd have spotted the serial killer right away.

[@chriscos123]

Sagittarion is a celestial location. It's absolutely a race.

[@johnroscoe2406]

@@attackofthecopyrightbots They LITERALLY use "racist" wrong then. You LITERALLY need to stop LITERALLY repeating your LITERALLY line all LITERALLY all over this LITERALLY comment section. LITERALLY.

[@sayakdas4159]

'Racist' word in this context is not appropriate. It is more of a prejudice.

[@The_Daily_Tomato]

Well when you think of it each planet was colonized by a different tribe. Sagittarians, Aquarians, Capricans and so on so perhaps in their mind each tribe was a different race. We do the same and base it of slight skin difference so it's not that far fetched :)

[@Dhari1]

Dickum N Lickum the V: Emperor Of KZbin. Perhaps you should just shut up. Racist is appropriate.

[@jonathanjoestar1938]

When you’re so triggered by the word “racist” that you start arguing that it’s just prejudice or bigotry then I’m pretty sure you’ve already lost the debate. 😂

[@attackofthecopyrightbots]

he LITERALLY calls him a racist in the show..

[@lgmmrm]

This is a completely different society with completely different precepts of race compared to us.

[@Hykje]

"The Woman King" was an episode that obviously was put together with a from-the-shelf script probably originally written for some hospital show, just to fill out the season. The characters are not acting as they do in the rest of the show and in some cases as completely different characters -and most important -almost nothing in this episode has any connection to the rest of the story and is mentioned again. The episode can basically be skipped without hurting the ongoing storyline at all. This kind of episode pops up in every show and is recognized by the characters acting strangely because the whole thing is written for something else.

[@erentheca]

What 3rd level intern comes up with the titles of these clips?

[@drmayeda1930]

More like a civilian. Just because the channel is called "Battlestar galactica" doesn't mean they have anything to do with the producers. They might not even hold the copyright for the show.

[@mecurian485]

A very weak episode, shoehorned in as the execs felt the serialized format was too difficult for the average viewer to understand. More proof that execs need to just shut up and leave a good thing alone.

[@TomalakGeretkal]

This story might have landed better if it weren't part of a show literally about a bunch of people habitually racist towards Cylons.

[@Thatslifebro_]

There is a clear difference between not liking someone for their religious beliefs and hating a different Species that comitted genocide on your people and even hunted down the few survivors even though they are not a threat. The hate from Cylons to Humans and the other way around is absolutely understandable and even justified to a degree. But the show does not leave it at that. In the beginning yes, but the love between Helo and Athena or Baltar and Caprica Six showed that there are people in both camps who can overlook past problems, the entire fourth season with the Final 5 was basically a statement on how not everything is black and white and that you beeing a cylon does not mean that you MUST hate humans and the other way around. They allied with cylons in that season and some even stayed on the new earth while they left the basestar to the centurions to finally stop the cycle (hopefully) That was all developed. And i think this episode worked very well.

[@vsync]

a show literally about coming to terms

[@bubblebreak4160]

Thatslifebro Actually the Cylons do not meet the definition of a different species. Any group which can interbreed is the same species.

[@prince-solomon]

You put machines on par with sentient life. Machines that committed genocide... give that "bunch of people" a break, okay

[@cheeseburgerinparadise7124]

Wow you don't think much

[@zeninabox9818]

It's like they were getting the clot shot...

[@brianlindee9212]

To be honest if they can't breed they don't deserve to go on I don't see how an elderly woman is going to contribute in a major way to the surviving members of the species if she isn't strong enough to live in the long Helo gave his seat on the raptor in the miniseries when he could have stayed and just took baltar although things worked in the end that old woman probably died

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

Many people whom are unable to work in physical fields or bear offspring still have the ability to contribute in other ways, knowledge, entertainment, etc.

[@kimothy1701]

Saul Tigh is Deathstroke

[@alexwest2514]

If Fauci were a spaceman

[@colinmerritt7645]

Go home, Trumpturd.

[@RinaRavyn]

I dont think racism applies here. Theyre all humans. Only from different Planets. Race was never made an Issue in BSG. Only the planets the people come from. If you view that as a metaphor for racism then its you, who has the problem.

[@Zorak30]

I agree. There is a lot of projecting going on from whoever named this video. Pretty lame.

[@leroyhudson4311]

"racism" word will get you more clicks... (please don't ban me, I love the show)

[@Zorak30]

Lol that is sad but true.

[@kabagaida9744]

"A metaphor is a figure of speech that describes an object or action in a way that isn’t literally true, but helps explain an idea or make a comparison." That's the definition of a metaphor. The title of the video helps to explain the situation even if it isn't *literaly* true. Don't go around trying to bash on people for using metaphors...

[@Zorak30]

That isn't a metaphor. It is a blatant misuse of the word for the situation that happened in this episode. The character disliked the people who didn't use medicine and did so because of their religion. Because of their beliefs, he thought they deserved to die. Bigotry or antireligious applies much more closely then racism which is a dislike of a person based on that person's race. There was never any discussion of racism in BSG being a problem and they showed examples of their being no gender discrimination numerous times. The society dipicted in BSG had moved away from discrimination based on race and gender. Peoples dislike of each other stemmed from the different planets they came from which more closely aligns with bigotry.

[@essanance]

Its not a rasicm issue its a hatred for their religious beliefs..

[@matth1589]

A race is a grouping of humans based on shared physical or social qualities into categories generally viewed as inherently distinct by society. First used to refer to speakers of a common language and then to denote national affiliations, by the 17th century the term race began to refer to physical (phenotypical) traits. Modern scholarship regards race as a social construct, that is, a symbolic identity created to establish some cultural meaning

[@deathstrike]

It's the typical Hollywood predelection of creating an issue and creating drama where it is not needed, wanted, or necessary. Is there racism? Sadly yes, but like Morgan Freeman once said "you want to stop racism? stop talking about it". Hollywood need it's collective mouth and political bias shut down for good.

[@jonathanjoestar1938]

Nah dude, it’s racism. Sorry if that triggers you but in the context of the show it’s 100% racism.

[@carlosspicyweiner6293]

@@jonathanjoestar1938 Erm nope, racism is hatred or prejudice against someone based on a shared physical group characteristic (black skin, white skin, round eyes etc). From what the show is telling us this seems to be more in line with anti antisemitism or some kind of cultural/ nationalistic prejudice. If the sagittarons looked different (Maybe extremely tall and fragile because of their planets gravity being weaker) and the Doctor made it clear that was his reasoning behind the killing then it would be racism.

[@prince-solomon]

Nazis and Jews man....nazis and jews... clearly no racism involved there either.

[@Necromonger69]

Never liked Helo and sanctimonious attitude. Especially when he saved the Cylons from being obliterated by the virus, never mind the fact they killed billions of his own race.

[@JVRottweil]

Racist? LOL do people even know what the word means anymore?

[@jonathanjoestar1938]

JVRottweil if you’d watched bsg you’d know that racism in the context of the 12 colonies is quite different to racism on earth.

[@attackofthecopyrightbots]

he LITERALLY calls him a racist in the show.. I think the showrunners know what theyre saying more than you

[@Kalenz1234]

It does kinda apply. Prejudice based on planet of origin was a big theme in this show.

[@digede28]

2020 on Earth Corona Virus [Covid]

[@bnmbnm]

It's not racist or prejudist. He judged them because of their actions and opinions. That's the opposite of pre-judice. As for the treatment, I say respect their wishes. Let them be sick if that's their choice. But isolate them.

[@MrAlkylation]

there are 2 meanings for racism 1/ to believe there is a ranking of race 2/ to be hostile/violent toward a specific group of people according to meaning 2, this is racism

[@logancox6548]

And those of them who do want the medicine and get killed by Dr. Robert anyway because "the only thing worse than a Cylon is a Saggitaron?" No prejudice against them, right?

[@chrisdufresne9359]

This was definitely an example of prejudice. He even said it. The reality is, generations of people living on separate worlds will inevitably have varying beliefs and medical capabilities.

[@Man-O-Little-Tan]

He was killing the people that did come for meds he was killing the people that were asking for help, he was hurting people based on the actions of their nationality not their personal actions

[@greatwitchallah7080]

Aaliyah green.

[@armadillotoe]

So the fuck what?

[@amitkenan3878]

I can understand why he hates these primitives

[@jonathanjoestar1938]

Lol there are so many triggered closeted racists in the comments. 😂 Dude if you have to argue that “it’s not racism it’s just bigotry” then I’m pretty sure you’ve already lost. 😂 Side note: it’s absolutely racism, in the context of the show Sagittarons would absolutely be considered a race even tho they come in all different shapes and sizes, the notion of race would be very different in the 12 colonies to how it is on earth right now, and that doctor was 100% a racist.

[@johnroscoe2406]

So an interest in proper terminology makes someone a closeted racist? What are you, 20something, white with a Liberal Arts degree?

[@carlycrays2831]

@@johnroscoe2406 Why are you arguing that this isn't about racism?

[@johnroscoe2406]

@@carlycrays2831 Bigotry and racism are not the same thing idiot, you understood the context of what I was saying, don't play word games.

[@carlycrays2831]

@@johnroscoe2406 Tell me how this guy isn't racist? And remember, this guy was a doctor on New Caprica. We know that Doc Cottle was treating both human and Cylon patients, so it stands to reason that this guy was also treating Cylons. Does it not bother you that this guy probably gave Cylons better care than other he did other humans?

[@johnroscoe2406]

@@carlycrays2831 You need to care more about real life and less about fiction you bloated cow.

[@Canaris3]

>waycist Stop using words you dont knowthe meaning off..

[@davidk8509]

I dont think BSG knows what a racist is.

[@jkdbuck7670]

Dr Robert! The friend of the Beatles.

[@wernerruberts7586]

what a hypocrisy, a scene of someone condemning the act of racism in a show that is filled with real life racism. such blind ignorance!

[@jeromemaida4933]

Shut up.

[@wernerruberts7586]

Jerome Maida Naw I won't, but you can shut your ignorant ass up!!

[@DanzMcAbra]

Okay, I'll bite. What real world racism is there in BSG?

[@fawkesandhound]

It’s 2023, based Sagittarons would be the only ones not “dying suddenly” from a certain “safe and effective” jab. 😂

[@joerosa2532]

You got it sister! My guides told me to watch this show these last few weeks to see how this show was in reality a Hollywood scheme of foreboding, reality inversion and a host of other occult practices.

[@troy8613]

It brings joy seeing people who have a functioning mind.

[@Veridiano02]

In my opinion, you should put this doctor, the Sagittarions and almost everyone on this comment section inside one single ship without fuel, prepare to jump, warn the Cylons about last fleet position and then jump leaving the ship behind. And then let's see what the murdering, torturing, mutilating toasters think about morality, racism , belifs or "the needs of the many" crap.

[@roystonlodge]

The Sagittarons are the Golgafrinchans! We're through the looking-glass here, people.

[@theweichertreport6668]

What's most shocking to me about this series was how much of a badass Helo clearly was in the miniseries...and then the writers spent the next four seasons hammering him into an early version of what we would call a "Social Justice Warrior" (SJW) today. Such a wasted character. Helo became the "conscience" of the fleet. Some conscience. What a joke.

[@cow_tools_]

What? But he's right here?? He's also often shown to be naive. Every character gets good and bad moments.

[@richardtaylor1652]

@@cow_tools_ Helo's greatest strength is his greatest weakness; he will always do the right thing no matter what. Even if it will put the lives and safety of other people at risk, Helo would do it to protect what he values the most. We see it throughout the series; with Sharon, with the unintentional murder of Lt. Thorne on Pegasus, with this episode and even arguing against the use of biological warfare to annihilate the Cylon race to name but a few. Helo has a strong moral compass, but sometimes it is too strong and the consequences could potentially have a bigger impact that the issue he is fighting for.

[@carlycrays2831]

I liked him because of who he was. Everyone else was trying to kill each other and bomb everything and Helo was doing his best not to.

[@logancox6548]

All Helo does in the miniseries is give his place on the raptor to Baltar. You're thinking of S1 where he's surviving alone on Caprica for awhile. Also, your comments are very revealing. That we're supposed to consider a guy who does things like oppose a government casually planning to commit genocide or stand up to a man he's discovered is getting away with murder to be a person of conscience is "a joke" to you. I'll bet Helo and Chief preventing the Pegasus soldiers from raping Athena was a real SJW move in your mind too. That's the problem with you anti-SJW types. You take it too far, and suddenly you're willing to dismiss any actual pursuit of justice.

[@matthewronson5218]

Sagittarions isn't a racial description.

[@kuronyra1709]

Yes it is. It is exactly the same way some people consider Brazilian, Mexicans, Spanish or people from outside there own country. Color of skin not included in there consideration. It is a metaphor, but one that does exist even on Earth.

[@matthewronson5218]

@@kuronyra1709 Not, it really is not. Look up the definition of race, and not what you think it should mean.

[@kuronyra1709]

@@matthewronson5218 *facepalm* Ho my god you're actually serious about that. Maybe look up what METAPHOR is then. And Xenophobia while you're at it.

[@matthewronson5218]

@@kuronyra1709 Learn how to think and not twitch and emote. Notice your argument is all ad hominem attacks- look that up. While you are at it see if you can find the definition of race. Either you are not capable of this, or you already know better and want to argue absurdities. Learn how to address a subject. When I wrote speaking of the definition of the subject matter, that was the subject. This is irrefutable Lacking any logic, you attempt to flip that argument to 'Metaphor', changing the subject like a Shell Game antic, and addressing your own argument, which you ignorantly consider a 'win', which is you winning an argument with yourself. This is the way the the mind of a juvenile works, so I doubt you are even a HS graduate. There is no use having a discussion with the willfully ignorant. I hope you grow up one day and learn how to think,m instead of stumbling around in a chosen ignorance. I have adult things to do andven't the time to teach you how to think. I wish you the best in maturing and learning how to employ critical thinking. You'll get so much further in life that way.

[@kuronyra1709]

@@matthewronson5218 I don't think you know what Ad hominem actually mean. You might want to google that too.

[@nopens]

He did nothing wrong.

[@Kalenz1234]

He absolutely did. He had Adama's ear. He should have insisted on separating Sagittarions who refused medical treatment onto their own ships. They put the fleet to risk. But going after them individually and randomly killing them is absolutely wrong especially for a doctor. Not to mention he did it even before the Cylon attack.

[@Raptorcdxx]

#CoronavirusIsALie #CoronaLie

[@GameslordXY]

Nazi doctor😡

[@GameslordXY]

lolaz wabby Right,right. That's the one. To my shame,I couldn't remember its name. And yes I wrote its instead of his. Dr Mengele was not a person,but a thing,as is this one.

[@jefffaulkner2875]

Racist huh. Didn't know that this civilization had democrats.