Battlestar Galactica | Cylon Blood Cures The President

[@Dunedan2]

It was moments like this that probably made Helo my favorite character. Standing up to a squad of marines AND Adama all to protect his wife and child.

[@common_c3nts]

His child yes as his child is human, but his wife is the enemy and a robot.

[@kinbolluck476]

BEEP BOOP WAH WAH

[@arakatan9017]

Based dude, broke the cycle from it.

[@KayMarieD]

​@@common_c3ntssomeone didn't watch the show

[@christopherfoley8322]

@@KayMarieD It could be that he didnt fully understand that no two living models of each unit is the same. That Sharon Athena(later) isnt the same as Boomer Sharon

[@wombat8882]

One subtle aspect of the Cylon blood is that they gave a very major hint that we (humans on Earth today as we know it) are part Cylon. At the time, I don't think anybody picked up the hint, though. It is only noticeable in retrospect. In the show, the baby "has no blood type" - no antigens. Doc Cottle knows of two blood types, A and B. He does not know about Type O blood. We pronounce it as "Type Oh", but it's actually "Type Zero", zero for no antigens. There was another hint in the plot about the infection that is fatal to Cylons but harmless to humans; in reality, it makes us sick but is not fatal (halfway in between). In both cases, a few people noted online that the show was "wrong" about those things ... but in the long run, they were actually genius-level subtle hints.

[@ehbenson2948]

So, I am a Cylon?

[@wolfman83778]

Technically yes, you are half Cylon, according to the way the show ended.

[@wolfman83778]

@Kenba Mamba Well part human, part cylon, and part native (whatever the natives were supposed to be isn't quite clear, but probably Homo Erectus).

[@TheAkashicTraveller]

I mean that does completely ingore all the other antigens found in blood not covered by the ABO system. Then again there is Rh NULL of which only 40 odd people are known to have. They are the true universal donors but can only accept blood from each other.

[@valkyrie-in-black-coat]

So having blood type O positive makes me?¿ XD

[@dtiman]

Baltar, (at 4:22) "perhaps for once, I am a beacon of hope around here."

[@matth1589]

How did James Callis not get all the acting jobs after the series finished. He's had a decent career but he is a truly great actor.

[@jsprite123]

Agreed, one of the best actors in BSG. Probably the best.

[@scottgrimes1287]

Helfer has done a lot. Burn Notice, Ascenscion, been in Suits.

[@daCanadainCanuck]

Tricia Helfer has been busy with voice acting as well, shes did Sara Kerrigan

[@scottgrimes1287]

Yeah, it seems a lot used tis as a springboard for their careers, which is good. Says something about the quality of acting. You had Olmos and McDonnel as anchors, had veteran in Rhodes as Cottle and recurring Stockwell, Lawless and fan fave Hatch, the show had ALOT of good talent that brought out the better in the support cast.

[@PumpkinHoard]

While Callie went off and joined Alison Mack in a creepy sex slave cult.....

[@sastrei]

Love Baltar's reaction. "Wait, wtf did I just walk into?"

[@steveleeart]

So many amazing actors on this show!

[@gaiusbaltar8973]

I'm sure Helo & Athena wouldn't have minded donating just a bit of their kids blood to save the goddamn president.

[@KibaDragonRanger]

I would like to see James Callis take a try at playing the Doctor in Doctor Who at some point in his career. I’d think he’d nail it.

[@freewilliam93]

Wow thatd be amazing. Go pitch it!

[@RunPJs]

He'd be great, but Doctor Who has gone too woke

[@MegaParrotMan]

What a horrible fate.

[@JuricksEnterprise]

Wouldn't work today, he's not a woman, gay or trans!!

[@devinthierault]

Bond

[@BNBsBrainCancerJourney]

One of the finest shows ever.

[@makasete30]

matrix49A ooooh edgy

[@freewilliam93]

This assnd babylon 5 did religious scifi soooooo much better than any christians can hope to make.

[@davemarx7856]

Strangely enough I don't feel this was actually about abortion. I see Xenophobia as the actual topic here. Aborting the child was about Adama being afraid of what that child *might* become. I doubt he thought it could give away their location or something silly like that otherwise he'd have killed Athena immediately. I suppose he was more worried about the legal and political ramifications. If we grant citizenship or asylum to a half-cylon... then we'd have to consider the same for full-cylons... and quite frankly, the common enemy is the only thing holding this fleet together.

[@GrayNeko]

I'm not sure I agree with you, sir, though I do take your meaning. I think Adama didn't want to abort Sharon's baby /at all/, he just couldn't see another way forward. The second that Baltar showed up to offer another option, he ran with it.

[@dangermartin69]

@BRAVOZULU DWEST boathouse More and more are catching on.

[@LordTalax]

Cures her for ten minutes until the plot says she has to have cancer again.

[@victorhartman1904]

And then plot says everyone must totally forget how they cured it first time

[@victorhartman1904]

@Lady Mercy Where did they disappeared afterwards?

[@gabrielpaige3514]

Some people really didn't like this episode, I don't blame them because I can't stand the teacher backstory plot. But scenes like this are amazing with amazing acting and is a shame when they are shadowed to stuff like Star Wars which doesn't always have a great plot or acting like Battlestar. Best frakking show ever!!!! So say we all!!!

[@sartainja]

You have to love ole Doc Cottle.

[@neryskkiran1820]

Maybe it's the neurodivergent in me, but the end of each of these videos, with the crackling sizzling clanging, is SO jarring, each and every time, that I can't just put it on a playlist and let it go, because I'll have to listen to that EACH and EVERY time a video ends.

[@nehorlavazapalka]

Athena, not Boomer!

[@jeffburnham6611]

I don't think she was given her new callsign until later in the series. They just called her "Sharon".

[@drmayeda1930]

@@jeffburnham6611 They are call signs for two different characters There are two last names. I don't think they cjanged callsigns after marriage

[@sky173]

o7 Athena ! The wife and I are just starting season 4. Time to clear the tear ducts, lol

[@TobeWilsonNetwork]

I also start seizing upon seeing Number 6.

[@Turboy65]

I'm sure I've seized myself after seeing her once or twice.

[@juntalk4]

That was her first vision for the future by reminding herself of the past.

[@iantolyczak8411]

Can you upload when Galactica arrives at Ragnar Anchorage and the battle of Ragnar?

[@Boskov01]

the official channel hasn't uploaded it but there is a video of the Battle of Ragnar: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqK5Y4GZrcprd80

[@Elaba_]

So A.I. may not be as frightening after all.

[@EndieM8]

anyone know the soundtrack title at the start of the this clip?

[@wedgeantillies66]

And in the space of five minutes, Baltar not only saves Roslin, but Athens’s unborn child. All in a days work for the doctor doing something useful for a change.

[@willlauzon3744]

I never understood the admiral's 180 on Baltar. Yes he's odd He's shifty. He's not military. But he came through on the trillium refinery mission. He saved the president giving up a position of power. He gave the resurrection mission a win. Dude kept coming through and all of a sudden he was pubic enemy #1

[@starg5698]

Plus another thing, if even they couldn't tell who was a cylon back then how to me she didn't ask him if he knew he was with a cylon or not. All he could if know back before the war happened was he was with another hot lady. She didn't know how all the cylons looked so how could she of think that he knew when he was dating her.

[@wolfman83778]

Star G I think the idea is that it was something she happened to remember, and the details of the memory become far more apparent while she was near death (aka life flashing before her eyes).

[@TheAkashicTraveller]

Except for the part where Baltar could but didn't tell anyone.

[@mrzhnex8018]

@@TheAkashicTraveller ...cause he had to do it cause??? nope, sorry roslin, your life was saved, so stfu :)

[@earthhound]

We will do this once and then never again.

[@TheMartuksxxxx]

I hate how futuristic this is yet they still say things like: "I dont like it, it is unnatural" or "Maybe its her time to go" like wtf you have flying spaceships and you can build artificial humans yet trivial things like that are out of line? you high?

[@rhysgarner8677]

Well the human form Cylons weren’t made by humans. And technically, using the foetal blood from a hybrid of machine and man is actually unnatural, not to mention dangerous because aside from a quick experiment with a cell culture, they don’t know for certain the effects that it would have on the human body.

[@Adiddy927]

Laura Rosalin lie to Helo and Athena that theirs baby dies. The worst part is Adama went along with the lie. Laura Roselin was a corrupted politician no wonder she lost to Baltar.

[@Eleonoor]

Adama didn’t go along with anything. He didn’t know, and the moment he found out he told Helo and Athena.

[@bobert4him]

Well. It IS an opera...

[@theshlauf]

Ah yeah, I forgot Athena's baby blood cured Roslin's cancer until it needed to return for the plot. Makes me hate her even more for stealing Athena's baby and telling her she died.

[@xanthus8699]

To be honest I feel she is a rather detestable character. Someone saves her life and her reaction is to torture and attempt to kill that person.

[@havennewbowtow8835]

Best ever

[@Nativtexan2]

Shit that's a big ass needle!

[@thehantavirus]

what doesnt make sense is her cancer came back, with no explanation.

[@scottgrimes1287]

in fact, it may have been a treatment, not a cure. Say, like dialysis is for people with kidney disease

[@kreatillion1718]

Maybe within the whole "cycle" theme of the story, Roslin was meant to die of cancer. Scientifically, recovered cancer patients are twice as likely to get the same cancer again than a first time patient. Also, it may be that after the half-cylon blood cured that wave of cancer, Roslin's immune system rejected the alien blood and purged it from her body. This tends to happen with incompatible blood types (yes, the half-cylon blood didn't have a type, but it still wasn't Roslin's blood type).

[@czperiod2576]

Simple explanation: Plot cancer. Like the plot armor on the Galactica, it works when it's supposed to work in the script.

[@Theomite]

Plot cancer. But, it does have basis in reality. Cancer cells can go dormant, effectively becoming literal "sleeper cells" that can wake up and start the cycle again. Just this year, there have been a new system of drugs being designed to target these specific cells to prevent relapses. Theoretically, if it works, you can surgically remove cancerous tissue and use the drugs to prevent the cancer from coming back.

[@Swarm509]

I image the cylon blood cells would eventually die or just be diluted to the point of being ineffective by her natural body process. Years later the cancer comes back and kills her. It has been a long time since I've sen this but I am more surprised they didn't get more to use on all sorts of things.

[@zacharyfinch1230]

People being upset about the cancer coming back doesn’t make sense to me since people with cancer relapse all the time-

[@Michael-hb4wc]

Baltar accidentally scienced

[@bennyhill5938]

boomer is the hotest human alive!

[@RunicRhino22]

perhaps this isnt the best to watch while eating

[@davemarx7856]

Ryan Nicholson Why, are you eating a fetus?

[@freewilliam93]

So yea, were of the race of cain as well as seth....

[@saquist]

Did they really do the superblood deus ex machinma before Star Trek Into Darkness? Terrible.

[@FireOccator]

Well. They did it first. LOL

[@KomamuraSajin]

The difference is in Star Trek someone outright died. Here, the Prez was on her way out. Her convulsions were a reaction to her treatment. The Cylon blood did not reanimate a corpse. Moreover, while there was accelerated healing, the doc said she would still had some recovery time. It's a little more plausible than a lot of sci-fi where introducing a mutagen or cure-all has an almost instantaneous effect (arguably there was an instantaneous effect here, but she's not doing cartwheels or anything).

[@saquist]

I'll give you that!

[@dylanwight5764]

Cylon blood is nothing more than "improved" human blood. There's nothing super about it. That's like comparing a generally unhealthy diet with a diet that contains a lot of probiotics and essential nutrients -- one is going to be more beneficial for the organism. The only unbelievable thing about Cylon blood is that it lacks any semblance of a specific type. That's not how genes work, but we can give it a pass since this series isn't exactly hard-science.

[@davemarx7856]

Y'all need to watch *V*

[@starg5698]

How would he know where to draw the blood from the fetus if he wasn't using an ultrasound? Wouldn't he need to see where he was drawing the blood from so he wouldn't if just poked anywhere on the baby in the tummy.

[@hekkoCZ]

@Lady Mercy Fetus can move within uterus. I really think they should have used ultrasound to make sure Gaius is drawing the blood from the fetus (and also not poking the fetus in the heart since Gaius aimed to save it).

[@ConsciousnessisRough]

Good god this series went to pot. It started at out so engaging and semi-realistic, and went to.... this.

[@AFrickingOrange]

Wrong.

[@dylanwight5764]

Fabian Kirchgessner; Wrong. Go watch the original series.

[@davemarx7856]

I'm going to disagree with you while respecting your opinion.

[@wombat8882]

@@dylanwight5764 The original series was interesting for network family-hour TV in the late 1970s. Viewed today, it's hard not to laugh. It is no comparison to the reboot, if you want any sort of depth. If you think robot dogs are cool and you want a villain called the "Imperious Leader", and a version of Baltar who wants the Cylons to kill 100% of humans so that he, Baltar, can ....?, then TOS might be your cup of tea. And who could forget when they land on some wild west planet where a malfunctioning cylon thinks it's the sheriff. Why? Because kids in 1979 also liked westerns.

[@Theomite]

I've heard rumors that the downward spiral was a result of the writer's strike around season 4, so they had to make some adjustments that put them in a corner they couldn't write their way out of when they came back; deadlines prevented them from having the time to come up with anything better--you have to remember that the show was damn near the biggest thing on TV at the time so they couldn't delay a season any longer than a regular hiatus. Something similar happened with BACK TO THE FUTURE II: when you went in a direction with no exit strategy, you basically have to all but break every rule you've established in order to get out.

[@atlascormac6273]

2021 democrats are weeping this baby wasn't aborted

[@Jude-db1bo]

Abortion is a Choice of Woman . Here sharon and helo wants their baby .

[@Jude-db1bo]

You are an uneducated #&$*#@

[@kengokaslana1776cw]

Screw off with your politics

[@common_c3nts]

Republicans dont watch scifi as scifi always points out how pathetic the repubilcan mindset is.