Battlestar Galactica | Gaeta's Mutiny

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Gaeta seizes control of Galactica.
Season 4, Episode 13 "The Oath" - Gaeta and Zarek execute a power grab the puts Adama and Tigh on the defensive.
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@thelastholdout
@thelastholdout 4 жыл бұрын
"I want you ALL to understand this...if you do this... there will be no forgiveness...no amnesty. This boy...died honoring his uniform. You...you'll die with nothing." What an ultimate level of badass. Surrounded by mutinying soldiers, knowing he could die at any moment, Adama STILL speaks with absolute conviction that THEIR heads are on the chopping block instead of his. It's even better because he's RIGHT.
@usul573
@usul573 4 жыл бұрын
At the very least, Adama let Gaeta die wearing his uniform by firing squad, which is the death of a soldier. While it's badass, it seems like most of them get amnesty for the final battle which was a suicide mission.
@WarGrowlmon18
@WarGrowlmon18 4 жыл бұрын
He kept his word on some level: he executed Gaeta and Zarek and locked everyone else up on the Astral Queen. BUT... he also relented somewhat I think too. After Gaeta was defeated, he was not locked in the brig, he was allowed to visit with Baltar, to smoke and was drinking what appeared to be the Admiral's morning coffee which Gaeta called the spoils of war. Also, instead of stripping Gaeta of his uniform, Adama allowed him to die in it. He didn't have to do any of that given what Gaeta did to him. Despite everything, he still treated Gaeta with some respect at the end I think.
@WarGrowlmon18
@WarGrowlmon18 4 жыл бұрын
@@usul573 Yeah they were locked up until they needed everyone they could get. But if you'll note in my other response on here, I think Adama did more than just let Gaeta did in his uniform.
@fuzzywzhe
@fuzzywzhe 4 жыл бұрын
This is fiction. Reality doesn't work this way at all.
@thelastholdout
@thelastholdout 4 жыл бұрын
@@fuzzywzhe really? This is fiction? I had no idea!
@T3DNR3D
@T3DNR3D 4 жыл бұрын
I love the Sergent of the Guard's reaction when he takes Adama into custody. Not only does he refer to Adama as "sir" (thereby still recognizing him as a superior officer despite just being relieved by Gaeta), but he follows it with a whisper quiet "...please sir". In that one line, you're shown the conflict of their begrudging agreement with Gaeta, but their long held respect of Adama.
@roguelead72
@roguelead72 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't he eventually wind up siding with Adama, been awhile since I've seen this.
@richardtaylor1652
@richardtaylor1652 4 жыл бұрын
Just goes to show how little support from the start Gaeta had for the mutiny. In reality there was a handful of crew, pilots and marines supporting it and it clearly wasn't enough. The mutiny lasted only what a few hours?
@Mobius_118
@Mobius_118 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardtaylor1652 Most of them supported Gaeta when it remained mostly bloodless. When they started hunting down innocents and were on the verge with trading shots with the Basestar was when people questioned whether they were in the right and swapped sides (like Kelly and some of the marines). Hell, even Gaeta himself chose to stand down when he realized the mutiny had gone too far.
@richardtaylor1652
@richardtaylor1652 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mobius_118 What I was trying to say was that Gaeta had a lot of 'reluctant' support. Sure he had support but a lot of them were really in it because they hated the Cylons, not because they hated Bill Adama. When it was clear Adama wasn't dead and that the odds were starting to swing against Gaeta then it was clear that he was on borrowed time.
@andrewarato696
@andrewarato696 3 жыл бұрын
Gaeta's fall made me sad.
@SPACECRUISER96
@SPACECRUISER96 4 жыл бұрын
I love that cold blood shot on Raptor's ECO from Starbuck No hesitation, no second thoughts
@psychguy2838
@psychguy2838 4 жыл бұрын
That is Great . She is such a crack shot . If she wanted to shoot him in the head she would have . The little smirk she gives them when she says "Follow Me , Please " ! is also great . They didn't appear to be eager to follow them .
@samsoncrosswood7259
@samsoncrosswood7259 4 жыл бұрын
No hesitation? She should have killed everyone one of them. She screwed up.
@Byrthor
@Byrthor 4 жыл бұрын
She should have aimed for the head
@WildCharger
@WildCharger 4 жыл бұрын
"Follow me." "Please." That was Kara's warning shot. If she was followed, she would have happily headshot all of them.
@TheEDFLegacy
@TheEDFLegacy 3 жыл бұрын
@@WildCharger When people complain about "Mary Sue's" in Star Wars (Rey) and Star Trek (Michael Burnham), I completely agree with them and use counterpoints to the likes of Starbuck (Katee Sackhoff), DS9's Jadzia Dax (Terry Farrell) and Kira Nerys (Nana Visitor), and Babylon 5's Delenn (Mira Furlan) and Susan Ivanova (Claudia Christian). I use these examples to say, "Hey Hollywood! THIS is how it's done!" Absolutely loved those characters and their actresses, and shows that women can most definitely pull off the heroine badass without coming off as a Mary Sue. (Though you could argue there are moments where Starbuck seems a bit "too" good, there are so many scenes that show her confidence to sometimes be... exaggerated. lol)
@dotmatrix7383
@dotmatrix7383 4 жыл бұрын
This still is one of the hardest arcs to watch in the series.
@stephenbruce1548
@stephenbruce1548 4 жыл бұрын
I loved this arc actually. I just wish it was sort of sooner before the ending.
@QuizmasterLaw
@QuizmasterLaw 4 жыл бұрын
it's brilliant but heartbreaking.
@ConorDoesItAll
@ConorDoesItAll 4 жыл бұрын
Ann Onymous it’s very good but hard to watch, poor gaeta :(
@QuizmasterLaw
@QuizmasterLaw 4 жыл бұрын
@@ConorDoesItAll this was the point in the series when i realized omg. they ALL die!
@cow_tools_
@cow_tools_ 4 жыл бұрын
Very gripping.
@ecmorgan69
@ecmorgan69 4 жыл бұрын
Adama does the smoldering glare like a pro.
@WarGrowlmon18
@WarGrowlmon18 4 жыл бұрын
He kept his word on some level: he executed Gaeta and Zarek and locked everyone else up on the Astral Queen. BUT... he also relented somewhat I think too. After Gaeta was defeated, he was not locked in the brig, he was allowed to visit with Baltar, to smoke and was drinking what appeared to be the Admiral's morning coffee which Gaeta called the spoils of war. Also, instead of stripping Gaeta of his uniform, Adama allowed him to die in it. He didn't have to do any of that given what Gaeta did to him. Despite everything, he still treated Gaeta with some respect at the end I think.
@jamiestewart48
@jamiestewart48 3 жыл бұрын
I think that was because, at the end, he realised Gaeta wanted no bloodshed. He could have had Galactica pound the Baseship and blow it to bits, but instead he just wanted to leave it.
@WarGrowlmon18
@WarGrowlmon18 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamiestewart48 Galactica likely wouldn't have won against the Basestar, at least not without massive loss of life on both sides. The ship has never really been a match for a Basestar one-on-one.
@InsertCoinBSGO
@InsertCoinBSGO 3 жыл бұрын
@@WarGrowlmon18 I don't agree with you. Based on what we see in the series, Galactica is way more powerful than a single (let alone damaged) Basestar. They easily won a 2v2 fight against the Resurrection ship, stood her ground for a long time against 4 Basestars at New Caprica, held off 2 or 3 Basestars at Ragnar station.
@WarGrowlmon18
@WarGrowlmon18 3 жыл бұрын
@@InsertCoinBSGO At New Caprica it was mostly against 2 Basestars with 2 more showing up near the end and the ship was very nearly destroyed in the process. They had also scattered their Raider cover with that trick near the beginning. After that battle you could see the damage that battle inflicted upon the Galactica for the rest of the rest of the show. In one episode, Tigh stated that they'd need 6 weeks in dry dock just to bang out the dents let alone tackle the structural damage. As for the Resurrection Ship battle, if you pay close attention they circle those ships like sharks. Presumably the Basestars don't have gun batteries capable of fighting back at that kind of range and just use missiles. But again that was while they were teamed up with the Pegasus, targeted one at a time and were in a far better shape than at the time of the mutiny. As for Ragnar, mostly they just held off the Raiders and missiles and were in what counts for this show's peak shape for the ship. I don't think they ever actually hit those Basestars with fire.
@InsertCoinBSGO
@InsertCoinBSGO 3 жыл бұрын
@@WarGrowlmon18 At New Caprica, they state at the very beginning that 2 more Basestars had jumped in, and there is no way to hold that many off, though you are right about the lack of raiders there. Regarding the Resurrection ship you are right, but the cylons had the same chance of focusing on 1 Battlestar. Also someone once made the comparison, that Basestars are like missile destroyer-carrier mixes. They are not seemed to be built for mid- or close ranged combat but to blow the disabled enemy to bits with missiles from a distance. In this case the Basestar and the Galactica would be quite close to each other in my opinion, so that's a plus for Galactica. Also don't forget, that after this mutiny, Galactica survived the assault on the Colony. Crippled yes, but survived huge amount of sustained fire and then a ramming, while gutting one of its' own landing bays. That ship was the product of the First Cylon war, built to withstand heavy beating and still be able to fight back.
@baaaa8237
@baaaa8237 4 жыл бұрын
Such a tragedy how Gaeta's charcter arc ended. He was so perplexing, nuanced, and very well written. I wish he stuck around just a little longer to see the real Earth but I suppose if it wasn't for him Anders wouldn't have sustained the head wound that helped him tap into his memories and ultimately help find the Earth
@richardtaylor1652
@richardtaylor1652 4 жыл бұрын
@Emmanuel Goldstein And it was bound to come to a point of no return. Gaeta is not exactly wrong for going down the mutiny path, be he was not exactly right for doing it either. And signing a pact with the devil (Tom Zarek) meant that ultimately any credibility he had went out the window as it became more and more clear who was really calling the shots and the real direction that the mutiny was actually going; an ultimate means to an end for Zarek to secure total power.
@Lavthefox
@Lavthefox 4 жыл бұрын
Now imagine that conversation. "Hey... Admiral... you're not still... mad about that... TINNNYYY little thing back on the ship are you?"
@QuizmasterLaw
@QuizmasterLaw 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Gaeta's the only character who broke my heart.
@QuizmasterLaw
@QuizmasterLaw 4 жыл бұрын
If you think I would be a-ok if my commanding officer thought letting defectors from the enemy side be in high level positions of command you've never served.
@adammacleod925
@adammacleod925 4 жыл бұрын
@Emmanuel Goldstein Tragic? I'm glad he got fucking executed one of the story arcs that made sense.
@mgDuckyyy
@mgDuckyyy 4 жыл бұрын
The part that hits me, The marines in CoC that went down fighting to protect Adama. :(
@cow_tools_
@cow_tools_ 4 жыл бұрын
The marines are such fodder in the show. It's a shame they weren't given more time to become more humanised.
@deancain1841
@deancain1841 4 жыл бұрын
@@cow_tools_ True, one of the few points I guess you could say about the series, they never humanized the cannon fodder too much, mainly the pilots. Really a shame. They were so loyal.
@DrownedInExile
@DrownedInExile 4 жыл бұрын
1:16 "I can do this all day!" Captain America approves of Starbuck!
@jamiestewart48
@jamiestewart48 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the line, "Where are your cylons now?" Followed by BLAM, dudes dead. Kara may not have been a cylon, but she was.. something. She also knew the music that activated the final five. There was some fuckery afoot there.
@pirobot668beta
@pirobot668beta 4 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact! Most of the gun-fire sounds are recorded blank-firing on set! Sure, there was some editing, but for the most part ambient recordings sounded the best.
@Nine-Signs
@Nine-Signs Жыл бұрын
Helo was my favourite. He'd throw himself into the pit of hell to save a kitten, just a good soul.
@BattlestarZenobia
@BattlestarZenobia 10 ай бұрын
Yep Helo’s awesome
@holton345
@holton345 4 жыл бұрын
"Follow me. Please." Starbuck FTW!
@mongothedestroyer88
@mongothedestroyer88 4 жыл бұрын
Gaeta was one of the best characters in the show and I completely understand how he felt after the occupation. So sad the way it ended.
@chimaican01
@chimaican01 3 жыл бұрын
At the same time though, I always found Gaeta to be weak. He fell under Baltar's spell, and then again under Zarak's spell.
@lukehunt9666
@lukehunt9666 2 жыл бұрын
@@chimaican01 I think when he alerted Adama to the fixed election he was just being patriotic, not on Baltar's side. During the occupation, he passed notes to the resistance.( Dog bowl), but I can't deny that you're right about Zarak.
@allenharper2928
@allenharper2928 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukehunt9666 Which is arguably worse than any.
@lukehunt9666
@lukehunt9666 2 жыл бұрын
@@allenharper2928 Exactly, Baltar may be the character we love to hate, but he would never have had the quorum machine gunned.
@allenharper2928
@allenharper2928 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukehunt9666 There we're times when a different Zarek shined through, such as when they were all about to be executed on New Caprica, he seemed ready to pull Roslin behind him in a futile attempt to shield her from the gunfire, but as you said, with mutiny and the massacre of the quorum of 12, he proved he was rotten to the core.
@Chronohome
@Chronohome Жыл бұрын
Credit to the writers; EVERYTHING Gaeta told Adama and Tigh was logical; they didn't suspect a thing. It was only when Adama's runner came back to report the deception that Gaeta launched the coup, and by then it was too late for Adama to stop it.
@lukehunt9666
@lukehunt9666 2 жыл бұрын
I love Roslin's speech from the basestar, "I'm coming for all of you!" Just look at Six's face when she screams it over the wireless
@allenharper2928
@allenharper2928 Жыл бұрын
I know, right? I couldn't tell if she was shocked, intensely turned on, or both!😂
@mikecimerian6913
@mikecimerian6913 Жыл бұрын
Six described herself as a soldier.
@piotrd.4850
@piotrd.4850 2 ай бұрын
How very...Cylon of her.
@darkjediknight2923
@darkjediknight2923 2 жыл бұрын
1. Gaeta was committing high treason. 2. His chosen allies included thugs and those of ill repute. The remarks made against Athena for instance are thoroughly unacceptable. This is not the workings of a supposedly moral coup. 3. You don't commit treason against Papadama! 4. Adama, Lee, etc all put their lives on the line to come back to New Caprica and rescue all these people. And this is the thanks they get?? 5. The alliance was between Humanity and those Cylons fighting the Cylons. It did not condone the barbarism of the Cylons, or the destruction of the 12 colonies. In a way, it could be considered that these Cylons "defected" to Humanity's side. 6. The methods employed by the so called mutineers were immoral, dishonourable and they turned out to be not only backstabbers, but thugs. Interested only in show trials, or no true justice. 7. Clearly there were plenty of Marines, pilots and members of the fleet at large (including the civilian populace rescued by the Battlestar Galactica) who sided with Adama. 8. In addition, these rogues were not creating a transparent choice. They effectively shut down all information, communication and did not convey what they were doing to allow pilots/marines at large to make an informed choice. For instance, during the chase of the Raptor carrying the President. 9. I would have loved to have seen if the Battlestar Pegasus had survived and let us say still under the command of Lee, if say the "coup" had failed on the Pegasus with the loyalists retaining control of that Battlestar with Gaeta in control of the Galactica. And then a repeat of the standoff we saw between Cain and Adama. But switched round. 10. You don't commit treason against Papadama!
@athomenotavailable
@athomenotavailable 3 жыл бұрын
Best mutiny ever. Because even though Adama had excellent reasons to do what he did, so did Gaeta!
@samboyd9544
@samboyd9544 4 жыл бұрын
So f*****g good. Every time I see clips from this KZbin channel, I get hyped about rewatching. Why have I not yet?!
@rickandmortyfan1016
@rickandmortyfan1016 4 жыл бұрын
Gaeta got messed with too much for him to remain completely loyal to Adama's command.
@QuizmasterLaw
@QuizmasterLaw 4 жыл бұрын
he was nearly executed by his own side and then his own side got way too comfy with the enemy Twice and to top it off one leg. who would have done much different or could blame him?
@ericj6636
@ericj6636 2 жыл бұрын
He was nearly executed for being a cylon collaborator... by a group that included multiple cylons. And he wasn't guilty. That's pretty frakked.
@davidlewis5312
@davidlewis5312 Ай бұрын
@@ericj6636 I think you need to re-read his history with 'Sweet 8' before you say he wasn't guilty.
@albino2966
@albino2966 4 жыл бұрын
Starbuck such a badass
@RobinK
@RobinK 4 жыл бұрын
These uploads are great, thank you!
@jwfcp
@jwfcp 4 жыл бұрын
Man, I forgot how good this show was. Well done BSG, this is a real nice campaign.
@MiguelLopez-is9te
@MiguelLopez-is9te 4 жыл бұрын
I actually understood & sympathized with Gaeta and the mutineers. I don't think I could accept an alliance with a group of Cylons. Athena was an individual, so that was different, for me. But when Zarek had the government executed, and Gaeta accepted it, I no longer understood or condoned his mutiny.
@adburltv
@adburltv 4 жыл бұрын
Once he started there was no going back. Gaeta didn't authorize Zarek to execute the government. But once that happened, it couldn't be undone. Gaeta knew his only chance of surviving was to go along with the mutiny. I don't know what I would have done in that scenario.
@MiguelLopez-is9te
@MiguelLopez-is9te 4 жыл бұрын
@@adburltv That's so true. I didn't think about it like that. Gaeta could've been afraid that Zarek would do the same to him.
@common_c3nts
@common_c3nts 4 жыл бұрын
The 5 cylons were equals with humans and allies. They would be crazy to not work with them.
@MiguelLopez-is9te
@MiguelLopez-is9te 4 жыл бұрын
@@common_c3nts Tigh, Tyrol, Anders and Ellen were cool. Tori... not so much. 🙂
@eric777100763
@eric777100763 4 жыл бұрын
Precisely your 100% spot on.
@gutspillage
@gutspillage 4 жыл бұрын
9 minutes more intense, well acted and shot than all seasons of modern shows combined.
@miller42
@miller42 3 жыл бұрын
0:45 That actor played the armistice officer in the prologue of the BSG miniseries.
@joshuawells835
@joshuawells835 Ай бұрын
"Worry about your own fortunes, gentlemen. The deepest circle of Hell is reserved for betrayers and mutineers." - Captain Jack Sparrow
@williamcostigan91
@williamcostigan91 4 жыл бұрын
Adama litterally dropped Galactica into the atmosphere of New Caprica to rescue everyone on the surface including Gaeta. The fact that he of all people could question his leadership after all these years is infrakingsane. Firing squad was too good for Felix.
@williamcostigan91
@williamcostigan91 4 жыл бұрын
@@null643 Well to be fair, losing Pegasus was never part of the plan.
@jeffburnham6611
@jeffburnham6611 4 жыл бұрын
From Gaeta's perspective, it does make sense. Adama started out at war with the cylons, and slowly came to accept the ones that rebelled, including Ty. What was unfortunate for Gaeta was that Zarek knew how to manipulate people, and in the end Gaeta paid the price for it.
@byronharano2391
@byronharano2391 4 жыл бұрын
Gaeta said "I remove you" not "I relieve you of command..." Wow! He truly signed his own execution orders. I know there was a Courts Martial Trial (in real life). Gaeta's Statement alone is enough to convict as "guilty as charged."
@ChrisDyn1
@ChrisDyn1 4 жыл бұрын
The cognitive dissonance of people supporting Adama on this is nuts. You're asking how could Gaeta question the decision to let Cylons touch humanity's hyperdrives when 2 episodes ago, the Cylons kidnapped and executed people, 4 seasons before that they genocided humanity and killed everyone except for, and I'm serious here, 0.0000001% of the human population, chasing them ever since. To let those things near the engines, and Gaeta being wrong for not wanting that, not wanting to risk the last remnants of his entire race. I will never understand why I seem to be alone in agreeing whole heartedly with Gaeta.
@mobiuscoreindustries
@mobiuscoreindustries 4 жыл бұрын
his reasoning is sound, however the admiral really understood how desprate the situation really was. This is not like humanity could keep going for that much longer, They are just one migrant fleet, protected by a buch of rigged auxiliaries and one aging warship with malfunctionning systems and an ever worsening hull. This is about the survival of the human race, and adama knows it better than anyone else : running towards the wall because it is the easiest course to make is not going to prevent you from slamming head first into said wall in short order. Adama knew that galactica would die on her own due to metal fatigue and that potentially the duty of protecting the fleet would have to be carried out still. This is a precarious situation and at the time there was no solution to it, so they needed the galactica operational for as long as possible, and that's where the cylon rebels come in. It is a tremendous risk yes, but one that had to be taken to ensure the prolongued safety of the fleet. In war you must take every oportunity you see, and that includes making use of the enemy's dissident elements to your advantage, as long as you can keep them under control. Geta's reasoning is completly understandable but would have beed the doom of humanity in short order even if the fleet wasn't targetted. For one being unfamiliar with the ship, we was preparing to jump with the flight pods extended, which would have surely broken the vessel spine right there and then, if not completly destroy it. and even if galactica survived it would only have hastened its downfall. and with the fleet defenceless the cylons would clearly have seen an oportunity to end it.
@jameshuke354
@jameshuke354 4 жыл бұрын
While season 4 wasn't the best, I loved the mutiny Arc! one of the shows best
@kingofthorns203
@kingofthorns203 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I didn’t think they’d have much material left after finding the scorched Earth so it was a pleasant surprise
@Lennis01
@Lennis01 3 күн бұрын
The quality of this arc suggests that they had something like this planned from the very start of the series. It was just a question of putting all the details together and then letting the cast do what they do best.
@tylerham1023
@tylerham1023 3 жыл бұрын
Gaeta: *Loses leg* Also Gaeta: "I'm gonna take over the entire fleet."
@darkangelus1987
@darkangelus1987 4 жыл бұрын
i love this tv series, it is amazing and actors were great
@6364LEGACY
@6364LEGACY 4 жыл бұрын
I felt both Adama and Gaeta were right. Scenes like this is why I love this show so much. Keep up the fantastic uploads!
@QuizmasterLaw
@QuizmasterLaw 4 жыл бұрын
Adama wasn't right. He should have purged all the cylons and put them in a brig and use them as hostages or sources of intelligence diplomatic chits.
@6364LEGACY
@6364LEGACY 4 жыл бұрын
@@QuizmasterLaw So say we all.
@Dimitri1221XxX
@Dimitri1221XxX 4 жыл бұрын
@@QuizmasterLaw Then the Cylons would have wiped the floor with them.
@antred11
@antred11 4 жыл бұрын
@@QuizmasterLaw Adama was 100% right, and Gaeta was 100% wrong. The Fleet _NEEDED_ this alliance with the rebel Cylons. After 4 years of constantly being on the run, things were falling apart for humanity, and that alliance would give them a fighting chance for survival. Sure, it sucks having to cooperate with a hated enemy, but sometimes you have to swallow your pride and do what is necessary to survive.
@captainkiwi77
@captainkiwi77 4 жыл бұрын
antred11 2 of those hated enemies tried to kill him on the grounds of treason, only to later be revealed to be in his eyes treasonous themselves, nobody there is even sure that the rebel cylons are truly on their side, now they’re fucking with the ship, fuck that, everything bad that has happened to Gaeta can be traced directly back to the cylons, even his leg was amputated because that toaster sympathizer Karl refused to go back for help and would rather wait. Gaeta with the knowledge they had, was right, Adama was also right in that he knew the alliance was necessary for their survival, but his crew had no reason to believe that
@3114bsad
@3114bsad 11 ай бұрын
BSG was such a great examination of humanity
@remotegod255
@remotegod255 3 жыл бұрын
True BSG fans get goosebumps from the first .5 seconds just by the ambient sounds of the Galactica
@chickadee874
@chickadee874 3 жыл бұрын
There are no true fans, or untrue fans. Just fans. Don’t be annoying
@kylemcfarlan1265
@kylemcfarlan1265 2 жыл бұрын
"You killed this boy." ...Frak
@gonzaleo
@gonzaleo 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Jaffe never got one promotion?
@woodstocksnoopy5786
@woodstocksnoopy5786 2 жыл бұрын
Starbucks loyalty to Lee is one of the best part of this show.
@antred11
@antred11 4 жыл бұрын
Even Racetrack was among the traitors. :(
@WarGrowlmon18
@WarGrowlmon18 4 жыл бұрын
She had been through quite a lot and was obviously very traumatized by the end of the show. I remember one fanfic I read years ago, back when this first aired, when Athena confronted Racetrack over that betrayal because Racetrack worked with her closely when she became a Raptor pilot and even volunteered for the job. I think Racetrack in the story gave an explanation about how she had come to trust Athena and it frightened her which led to Racetrack's betrayal. If I remember correctly, in that story Athena convinced Adama to release Racetrack and forgive her actions. Obviously not canon but still cool.
@WakenerOne
@WakenerOne 4 жыл бұрын
@@WarGrowlmon18 Racetrack WAS released in the end and allowed to serve again, as was Skulls. They were the final two human casualties in the Cylon war. Her dead hand fell against the launch trigger which fired the missile into the Hub, destroying it as the Fleet made the final jump for Earth.
@WarGrowlmon18
@WarGrowlmon18 4 жыл бұрын
@@WakenerOne I know but they gave an amnesty to anyone willing to fight in that battle
@zoidberg444
@zoidberg444 3 жыл бұрын
The seeds were there - she helped Lee get Roslin off Galactica.
@calvinallen3424
@calvinallen3424 2 жыл бұрын
Racetrack was in love with Lee and was mad she could never have him
@Adiddy927
@Adiddy927 Жыл бұрын
Over half of Galactica crew was still loyal to Admiral Adama. At the end they joined their beloved Admiral walking to the CIC to take back the ship.
@proberts34
@proberts34 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely a great episode.
@lawrencekramer7331
@lawrencekramer7331 Жыл бұрын
Gaeta's character first spun out of control when his leg got shot off. Got super worse when Duella committed suicide (I hated that scene, because I loved Duella's character a lot) when they found earth, just to see it a nuclear wasteland (like the 12 colonies). Final lost, when made a deal with a terrorist and mutinied against Adama. Poor guy, his character was really good.
@NestorCaster
@NestorCaster 2 жыл бұрын
This IS MADNESS… this is one of the forms human MADNESS takes. It doesn’t seem like it… but it is truly Madness… and that’s why this show is sooo good… it shows human insanity as it is contextualized under one of the most overused ideals: “based on good intentions”.
@drunkweebmarine9492
@drunkweebmarine9492 2 жыл бұрын
Zero hesitation on Starbucks part
@johnathanhenley2251
@johnathanhenley2251 Жыл бұрын
There is a very good reason why this particular piece of media, and ONLY this piece of media has been presented in front of the United Nations General Assembly. For those of us that have lived through war, those that have know how valuable it is to reconcile differences and find a path forward that all have a better future without more bloodshed together.
@mort8568
@mort8568 2 жыл бұрын
If you hate Gaeta after this or think it makes him a bad guy, you're not understanding what the show's telling you. This is the story of how *life* is brutal, not individuals, not any one name or person. Life. Reality puts these stresses on everyone in different ways, testing their tolerances and resilience, and the idea is that someone who'd never be involved in such a bloody affair in ordinary circumstances is sadly thrown into the abyss by all that's happening.
@calvinallen3424
@calvinallen3424 2 жыл бұрын
Naw Gaeta sucks
@Sir_Gugharde_Wuglis
@Sir_Gugharde_Wuglis Ай бұрын
People make choices and he made a bad choice.
@Lennis01
@Lennis01 3 күн бұрын
@mort8568 This is an excellent explanation. BSG was at its best telling human stories.
@lokivato
@lokivato Жыл бұрын
E J Olmos was INCREDIBLE in this series.
@samsoncrosswood7259
@samsoncrosswood7259 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t understand why Starbuck didn’t kill everyone in the hangar. They earned it.
@mynamejeff785
@mynamejeff785 4 жыл бұрын
@Fabian Kirchgessner you really can in the heat of the moment, i once threw a grenade into a room we had just cleared as we were leaving the building. I didn't have proof they were the enemy, but i fucking knew it. Willie Pete, those screams will make me smile for the rest of my life, in the sick way that is war
@mynamejeff785
@mynamejeff785 4 жыл бұрын
@Fabian Kirchgessner Starbuck was stupid, what was stopping any of them picking up their guns and shooting her in the back? What, because she warned them? That doesn't work in reality
@QuizmasterLaw
@QuizmasterLaw 4 жыл бұрын
how many bullets in that gun hm and what would all that noise bring plus they are fellow humans and might flip back.
@Frenki94
@Frenki94 4 жыл бұрын
Racetrack, Connor and Skulls were part of their flight wing, not easy too just kill people like that, even with a mutiny. Starbuck was there to get Lee out, and she did it. Edit: Well Connor wasn't actually.
@Brees1986
@Brees1986 4 жыл бұрын
MyName Jeff Bullshit you threw a White Phosphorus grenade into a enclosed environment. If you “just cleared a room” you wouldn’t be tossing an incendiary into it. NO ON would us WP in that situation. What was your unit, year and CO?
@HelloNewMoon
@HelloNewMoon 4 жыл бұрын
Tom Zerak is shitting his grave over it being remembered as Gaeta’s mutiny
@MLPDethDealr32
@MLPDethDealr32 Жыл бұрын
The Geni have boarded the Galactica. 0:50 thats the actor that played Laiden Redeen in Stargate Atantis ;)
@phrophetsamgames
@phrophetsamgames 2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why Lee didn't assemble a big enough force to just push through to CIC. There's this officer at 5:47, and at least a few more he finds throughout the fighting that are loyal to his father.
@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen
@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen Жыл бұрын
The simple answer is at that point, there is no real way of telling who is on your side or not. It's utter chaos and only the traitors have coordination, so gathering a large group could just as easily lead to immediate betrayal and widespread execution. Once the fighting settles down and they have a clearer line drawn between who's who, then Adama leads his supporters to retake the CIC, but not before.
@delphinum7909
@delphinum7909 Жыл бұрын
Love that bit when The Colonel is ready to murder Gaeta and Adama has to tell him specifically to stand down.
@info_fox
@info_fox 4 жыл бұрын
Back when TV was great, Those were the days. - Bobby B
@wa.a.s.nfa.2786
@wa.a.s.nfa.2786 4 жыл бұрын
You do this....There will be no forgiveness....no amnesty.
@WarGrowlmon18
@WarGrowlmon18 4 жыл бұрын
He kept his word on some level: he executed Gaeta and Zarek and locked everyone else up on the Astral Queen. BUT... he also relented somewhat I think too. After Gaeta was defeated, he was not locked in the brig, he was allowed to visit with Baltar, to smoke and was drinking what appeared to be the Admiral's morning coffee which Gaeta called the spoils of war. Also, instead of stripping Gaeta of his uniform, Adama allowed him to die in it. He didn't have to do any of that given what Gaeta did to him. Despite everything, he still treated Gaeta with some respect at the end I think.
@ShasOSwoll
@ShasOSwoll 2 жыл бұрын
IMO Adama telling everyone to stand down was the wrong move, he probably didn't want anyone to die but his staff were all armed and surrounded the mutineers who were concentrated in the center of the room including Felix, in a firefight they probably could have taken him out at least, and the Mutiny would have fallen apart
@Nopquar
@Nopquar 2 ай бұрын
I forgot how good the gun sound design in this season was.
@SmokeyBCN
@SmokeyBCN 2 жыл бұрын
in some alternate universe, Apollo and Starbuck got to live happily ever after together 😢
@timhare9867
@timhare9867 4 жыл бұрын
Ah when there is no stun settings to peacefully settle disputes. :)
@kinagrill
@kinagrill 3 жыл бұрын
Hah, a big part of the 'let us kill the traitors from New Caprica' goes mutinous... how about that. Oh and Gaeta... poor Gaeta.
@Krystoff04111
@Krystoff04111 3 жыл бұрын
Gods, I love this show. 🤘😖
@2wings1bird31
@2wings1bird31 2 жыл бұрын
" I could do this all day" i forgot Starbuck said it first.
@nunayobiz
@nunayobiz 4 жыл бұрын
Great episode, OUTSTANDING SERIES!
@Hesitatedeye
@Hesitatedeye 3 жыл бұрын
Starbuck channelling her inner Mandalorian there.
@alienkisse
@alienkisse 4 жыл бұрын
The best série ever. Thx 👍
@djdoc06
@djdoc06 Жыл бұрын
Clearly the mutineers’ ranks were mostly filled by thugs and malcontents, as they often are. People who can be good and decent if held accountable, eager to follow their worst impulses. Wished Starbuck had wasted everybody but maybe Racetrack in that first scene. The other 3 were bloodthirsty pigs, eager to execute Apollo for fun. Racetrack looked shocked at that, though she was afraid to step up.
@LgiovanniF
@LgiovanniF 4 жыл бұрын
as soon as Zarek executed the Quoram/quorum??? it wasn't a mutiny it was a Zarek Coup... I actually enjoyed Gaeta's execution... very satisfying watching the actual 'Baltar Character' get it in the head
@captainkiwi77
@captainkiwi77 4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t enjoy it, cause Gaeta as far as logical people in that universe should be concerned, was right. We have the benefit of knowing the final 5 were good and that everything worked out, but gaeta, and everyone in that fleet tbh had no reason to believe that, they’ve been at war with these cylons who almost ended humanity, now 5 of them are being accepted because they’re “special”, with 2 of them being people who tried to kill gaeta for being an alleged sympathizer being cylons themselves. How could anyone on that ship seriously trust ty or chief, not after what they’ve seen, Gaeta lost a leg to Karl who had a child with the cylons. Everything bad that’s happened to Gaeta can directly be traced back to the cylons. I’d probably mutiny too if I were in that position. Cause they’re right, you can’t find out 2 of your most essential personnel are cylons and allow them to mess with the ships infrastructure and not expect a mutiny from your last remaining survivors who’ve been building up an anti cylon mentality for quite a while
@LgiovanniF
@LgiovanniF 4 жыл бұрын
@@captainkiwi77 they'd never have found earth without the cooperation of the cylons
@WarGrowlmon18
@WarGrowlmon18 4 жыл бұрын
Zarek and Gaeta went too far. Zarek definitely deserved it for that one... Gaeta maybe not so much. He could've been locked up instead but that might've been a rallying point for surviving loyalists. Also, he went way over the line with his actions which were all punishable by death. I think Adama had no choice in the end even if he wanted to give Gaeta some form of forgivness.
@theindooroutdoorsman
@theindooroutdoorsman Жыл бұрын
Tigh knew something was shady when all the comms were "out".
@andregordon2599
@andregordon2599 3 жыл бұрын
this arc were the episodes they were trying to make Kevin Smith direct, but he couldn't cause of some scheduling issue. As much as I love Kevin, that would have been such a mistake
@robs8353
@robs8353 2 жыл бұрын
Adama honored his word....no mercy for the traitors.
@Hunpecked
@Hunpecked Жыл бұрын
Throughout the series, the Colonials were as much a threat to each other as the Cylons were. No wonder Not-God enjoyed playing around with them.
@bayuthubaybss1666
@bayuthubaybss1666 3 жыл бұрын
Galactica Amazing 🤔 Good luck Profresor 👍
@boqndimitrov8693
@boqndimitrov8693 4 жыл бұрын
Гейта.. един от най-трагичните персонажи в BSG.
@QuizmasterLaw
@QuizmasterLaw 4 жыл бұрын
da. you know? I watched it all in Russian. Watching it in English is stranna
@jarvy251
@jarvy251 8 ай бұрын
It looks like marines on both sides of the CIC drop in the shootout. Is this friendly fire from bad positioning, or did Gaeta actually try to storm the bridge without every marine guard being on board?
@byronharano2391
@byronharano2391 4 жыл бұрын
Treason or mutiny are always publishable by execution during war or national crisis...you better be absolutely convinced of your actions and be 200% successful. Otherwise you might be hanging by the yardarm or shot at dawn on the fantail. Best just not to commit either crimes.
@byronharano2391
@byronharano2391 3 жыл бұрын
@steve wick What with the name calling Steve? Why you take a fictional television show so seriously? Are you living in a state of an alternate reality? Why you so mean with your reply?
@byronharano2391
@byronharano2391 3 жыл бұрын
@steve wick if you believe that. Okay. But why the name calling? That ain't fostering peace. Nobody likes a mean person
@TheMillerMilitia
@TheMillerMilitia 2 жыл бұрын
Private Jaffey prolly ran like the Flash after that order.
@gonzaleo
@gonzaleo 2 жыл бұрын
He never even got a promotion all these years...
@michaelking9964
@michaelking9964 2 жыл бұрын
Frak this was a good show.
@zachjones6944
@zachjones6944 3 жыл бұрын
“I could do this all day!”
@ShadowIsatis
@ShadowIsatis Жыл бұрын
1:13 Katee still can't fire a gun without closing her eyes.
@rafetizer
@rafetizer Ай бұрын
Well it wouldn't be fair to her targets if she was looking.
@MikMoen
@MikMoen 4 жыл бұрын
I can understand Gaeta's position and actions, even maybe support them, but the mutiny cost numerous lives, so much unnecessary death.
@captainkiwi77
@captainkiwi77 4 жыл бұрын
If you’re countries neighbor one day up and took it over and slaughtered the population and began systematically hunting you and the other survivors down... would you ever... and I mean ever... trust someone from that country again? And if the person in charge of you began trusting more and more people from that country on the basis of them “being on our side” would you call a mutiny and any deaths that come from it “unnecessary”, no that’s ensuring your people’s continued existence, especially if you yourself had almost been killed by some of those people who were later revealed to be from said enemy country, and they had tried to kill you on the grounds of being a sympathizer at that. Fuck that, in his eyes it was necessary, we just have the advantage of knowing how it ends
@piotrd.4850
@piotrd.4850 2 ай бұрын
1. Finish job first 2. Gloat later.
@stephenbruce1548
@stephenbruce1548 4 жыл бұрын
Follow me, please. God this was one of my favorite Starbuck moments.
@jackdoyle7453
@jackdoyle7453 Жыл бұрын
Gaeta just reminds me of Hamilton, and Adama is like King George
@andonemore
@andonemore Жыл бұрын
That's why I have Starbuck's tattoo
@RoundingThird
@RoundingThird 4 жыл бұрын
One day there is going to be a reckoning.
@trajicsolitude5791
@trajicsolitude5791 3 жыл бұрын
Rip Chaffee loyal to the end
@supernaturalawesome1
@supernaturalawesome1 Жыл бұрын
I wanted Gaeta to turn out to be a number Seven (Daniel) so bad. Imagine after all this, the treason, the deaths, his execution, he awoke in a tub and it was revealed that number 1 did all this to make him suffer just like Ellen. The sevens were destroyed by the ones but that doesn't mean they couldn't have made one last spare body for a final screw you when his Gaeta identity died. Then a great backstory about how the sevens were Ellen's favorite because of there compassion and empathy and the number ones resented them for it. Maybe the sevens were against wiping out humanity and even planned to stop it. The ones destroyed there line, wiped all memory of them from the others then created Gaeta. Not only to make him/Daniel (the last number Seven) suffer but twisting him into a Cylon hating traitorous killer as a screw you to Ellen who loved the sevens so much for there empathy is what you'd expect from the Ones. The show runners admitted the Sevens were a plot device and personally as the only cannon LGBT Male character on Battlestar I wanted him to make it. 😞
@zamnodorszk7898
@zamnodorszk7898 4 жыл бұрын
If this were a real mutiny, there's no way Felix would let adama live. In a real mutiny setting, they cut off the head as quickly as possible.
@usul573
@usul573 4 жыл бұрын
Felix is trying to go by the book, but it's a joke.
@WarGrowlmon18
@WarGrowlmon18 4 жыл бұрын
Except Gaeta never had the stomach for such violence and only reluctantly ordered his execution in the end. By the end of it all it was clear that Gaeta's heart just wasn't in it anymore and probably hadn't been for awhile given all of the terrible violence that he was witnessing.
@MrAlkylation
@MrAlkylation 4 жыл бұрын
this episode was so stressful
@boots8562
@boots8562 4 жыл бұрын
Even though he wasn't, I'd like to think that Private Jaffee was Boxey from season one, just older...
@ellis2888
@ellis2888 3 жыл бұрын
So he went adult in 3 years lol
@ryans413
@ryans413 Жыл бұрын
Every season was 1 year so it couldn’t be lol
@Duneczan
@Duneczan 4 жыл бұрын
Now I remember who Gaeta reminded me of...Rossiu from TTGL.
@audreyhetzler6217
@audreyhetzler6217 4 жыл бұрын
Put a bunch of bombs down in Gurren Lagann. Yeah, I see it.
@TrackerNeil
@TrackerNeil 2 жыл бұрын
Adama WAS acting like a tin-pot dictator, ignoring the civilian authorities whenever he felt like it. Given that, a mutiny was inevitable.
@t.s.adrian8785
@t.s.adrian8785 8 ай бұрын
Episodes like this you see the Cylon's point of view.
@byronharano2391
@byronharano2391 4 жыл бұрын
Jupiter Class Battlestar....she's the fastest hunk of junk in the galaxy....oops, wrong show/movie. I love James Olmos' acting, he truly fit the part of a Navy Admiral - Colonial Admiral. CIC = Combat Information Center.
@Martin_Hermann
@Martin_Hermann 2 жыл бұрын
Gaeta's Lament extended
@shirohawke9413
@shirohawke9413 3 жыл бұрын
If Lee got the drop on me, I'd say woah too. Regardless of sides.
@OmegaFighter1
@OmegaFighter1 3 жыл бұрын
Although let’s remember that Adama also led a mutiny against Admiral Cain.
@TheCudder4life
@TheCudder4life 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody liked her.
@OmegaFighter1
@OmegaFighter1 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCudder4life in the military you don’t get to do a mutiny if you don’t like your superior...
@starsiegeplayer
@starsiegeplayer 3 жыл бұрын
Arguably, Cain lost her authority by turning into a pirate and killing civilians.
@larrysmith2638
@larrysmith2638 3 жыл бұрын
Adams's action was not mutiny. He relieved her of command because she ignored military justice procedure and had committed several murders.
@tmmartinesq.6216
@tmmartinesq.6216 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheCudder4life I did.
@TomTom-ym2bh
@TomTom-ym2bh 4 жыл бұрын
6:28 WHAAAT IS THIIIIS !!!!!
@Psuedo-Nim
@Psuedo-Nim 8 ай бұрын
In the end, Gaeta failed. sure, good intentions and all, but he failed and because contemptible.
@kills26
@kills26 11 ай бұрын
I loathed Gaeta, which is how I know he was a great actor.
@prince-solomon
@prince-solomon 2 жыл бұрын
Man what a shame that Gaeta's story went this way, i always liked him.
@Prometheus7272
@Prometheus7272 Жыл бұрын
He wasn't a monster just a casulty of war
@rafetizer
@rafetizer Ай бұрын
Yeah although man, he makes for a great mutiny leader and those two episodes are FIRE.
@thehantavirus
@thehantavirus 4 жыл бұрын
its varro from sg1, he plays in 1 episode in sga, but he continues as a character in sgu.
@WarGrowlmon18
@WarGrowlmon18 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know. He played 4 different characters between those 3 shows.
@lordmjh
@lordmjh 4 жыл бұрын
Always seemed like the cards always fell bad for gator. Wrong place at the wrong time, bad circumstances to live within, lie to, he snapped, he had enough. Everybody else got amnesty, except zarick and Gator. It doesn't seem fair.
@captainkiwi77
@captainkiwi77 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly yeah, he really had the worst possible luck, first he had to join the military to pay for his education which... unless you wanted the military life isn’t the greatest, then he was forced to become a sympathizer due to his position as chief of staff, then despite working as a spy he is treated as a traitor upon his return, then Karl’s decision to wait causes him to lose his leg, then two of the people who tried to have him killed for allegedly being a collaborator turn out to be cylons themselves, what’s worse is they are then accepted and allowed to retain their positions, then seeing that Adama was now doing the very thing gaeta had been hated for he begins a mutiny only for it to go wrong at literally every single turn, we literally see him throw away adamas pins knowing he isn’t adama and thusly won’t be admiral, he cries as he puts the order in, cause he knows what must be done despite how it hurts him, then he gets fucking shot for it, because apparently Adama just can’t quite seem to grasp the concept that military personnel are to be pulled out of combat zones following a treaty for a reason, hatred of the enemy doesn’t just disappear, especially when that enemy almost whipped out your entire species
@lordmjh
@lordmjh 4 жыл бұрын
@@captainkiwi77 that was well said. I started watching the series that was supposed to come before this, Caprica, which had to do with the beginning of the creation artificial intelligence and the sidelines. Sadly, it didn't get enough Network support, it later stopped production I guess. Like to see them start that back up/continue it.
@tk-2272
@tk-2272 4 жыл бұрын
6:35 I'm a bit confused here, did Gaeta's marines shoot first or did Adama's marines shoot?
@MrAlkylation
@MrAlkylation 4 жыл бұрын
1 Marine of Gaeta then the others follows
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