Battlestar Galactica: Razor | Hit The Ground Running

[@tinman3586]

"It doesn't matter where we jump to just fracking do it Leutenant!" Probably my favorite line ever from Admiral Cain.

[@brianholloway2358]

Admiral Cain was a real one. No matter what else she was...

[@frostyrobot7689]

Probably the old good decision (apart from standing down on the Adama assassination attempt) that she made.

[@aconformist1]

Commander, why are you launching Vipers?

[@sadev101]

the chance of hitting a star is astronomically lower then the chance of being destroyed by cylons in this scene

[@johnsonjunior547]

yeah i dont even understand that. If they're at a star system already, the chances of another star being within not only jump range, but also accidentally hit it when there's lightyears of space around it, doesn't really seem like a thing you would worry about. Yet people do in BSG.

[@kimnice]

@@johnsonjunior547 One could imagine an explanation: We don't know how this jump system works. Maybe jump events naturally tend to take them towards high gravity objects? They have to calculate things so that they end up far enough from these targets. Because of this random jumps could be dangerous. I just remembered how they discovered New Caprica..

[@johnsonjunior547]

@@kimnice Well the problem is the inverse square law. Even though stars are pretty high gravity objects, their gravity really doesn't reach out far when compared to the vastness of space. So, the jump system probably wouldnt even be able to read there being any gravity nearby. Though, its clear the ftl drive is kinda dimensional, rather than literally traveling faster than light, almost like a teleport. So, its possible in this other dimension, gravity doesn't follow the inverse square law and it "drags" the ship around based on the FTL path. I'm not too bothered by it, they really just added blind jumps as a way to keep suspension more than anything. And they aren't technically wrong, they can still jump into a star, I just don't think it'd even be a conversation if you were being attacked and needed to jump.

[@Armann_]

@@johnsonjunior547FTL folds space like a paper. It’s not actually a thrust anywhere. Though, theoretically crossing the red-line is you’re torn apart by a pulsar/nebula or black hole. Space is big, but not for ego.

[@agamemnonn1]

@@kimnice sort of. Remember the speed of light and how long it takes to travel a certain distance; by the time we see the object. hundreds of years have passed. One is essentially trying to calculate how an area of space is configured relative to the present

[@Mobius_118]

"We might jump inside a sun!" We're about to become a sun if you don't jump.

[@davfree9732]

Space is big. Really big! If Pegasus ended up in a sun that would make her an unlucky ship and Cain knows, she’s a lucky ship.

[@Mobius_118]

@@davfree9732 Given what happened to all of its COs prior to Lee, she most certainly is not a lucky ship.

[@franmanpr]

@@Mobius_118 the luck ended with her

[@halwakka504]

The "jumping into a sun" thing never made sense to me seeing as how infinitesimally tiny stars are compared to the volume of space that is around them. It'd be like jumping into an ocean and stepping on the one piece of broken glass on the seabed.

[@jonny-b4954]

@@halwakka504 I always assumed the drive would want to or tend to veer towards gravity wells without a target destination.

[@Qichar]

The BSG reboot is one of the great TV productions of all time. It was one thing to hear the crew of the Pegasus talk about the Cylon raid on the shipyards, but another entirely to see it happen. This really gives you insight into the mindset of Admiral Cain and her crew and why they were so single-minded and desperate.

[@petedivine]

Probably a lot like the guys in Perl Harbor when the Japanese attacked a docked fleet unexpectedly.

[@roceye]

We need to give credit where credit is do- "Space:Above and Beyond".

[@aconformist1]

And incredibly lucky to not have been taken out during the initial nuking of the shipyard like the other battlestars, and also their jump engines remaining online, and the CMP program not having been installed in time despite a Cylon agent literally working on their systems right before the attack (star trek effect, warp drive getting knocked out or not depending on the needs of the plot).

[@RavenHawkes]

When I first heard Michelle Forbes was going to play Admiral Cain in BSG my first thought was "Isn't she a little young to be an Admiral?" But after seeing her portrait in the series and in Razor her performance really blew me away.

[@StefanMertnik]

Its addressed in the show, some nepotism implied.

[@piotrd.4850]

She had a lot of practice as lower deck hand in ST:TNG ;)

[@KGillis]

@@StefanMertnik Yeah, there was a BSG game that came out not too long ago that took place during the first Cylon war, and it seems her mother was also an Admiral.

[@kevintran5901]

@Kenny Gillis actually that was her grandmother, not her mother as her parents died on Tauron on the last day of the war.

[@GrandTheftBalow]

@@piotrd.4850 i think she should have been a regular character in TNG or at least should have been in DS9 as shes Bajoran

[@bigj1905]

It’s crazy how the Pegasus had three massive strokes of luck: Their CNP system was offline, they mostly dodged the primary Cylon assault, and pulled off a successful blind jump.

[@Tayvin4042]

Sometimes you just gotta roll a hard six.

[@reidtyndall4953]

@@Tayvin4042 😎 nice

[@tammymartinez7488]

@@Tayvin4042did Baltar already do that?!?

[@annoyed707]

The fourth, encountering Galactica.

[@andyl8055]

The first two were luck. The third … they had about a one in one hundred trillion chance of hitting something based on the density of our own solar system.

[@sexybaphomet6169]

*Damn... Seeing those Valkyries and Columbia/Galactica-types get shredded just given-me the feels...*

[@sparrowlt]

Not a Galactica type exactly.. its bigger .. probably uses the same 3D model but in a previous stablishing shot it looks as big or bigger than Pegasus.. wich would make it a lot bigger than Galactica... considering another "Galactica type" shows up split in half in the miniseries this probably is meant to be another newer class wich just resembles the Galactica type externally

[@achillesrodriguezxx3958]

It's a mercury class battlestar. Looks the same as the galactica which is a jupiter class battlestar but it has a larger hangar bay and an automated production facility to manufacture Vipers.

[@sparrowlt]

@@achillesrodriguezxx3958 we are not talking about the Mercury class.. but the battlestar you see at 6:37

[@leifdeatherage7257]

@@achillesrodriguezxx3958 Pegasus is, yes. The one that gets hit with nukes as Pegasus is pulling out is a Jupiter (Galactica / Columbia) Class.

[@thymark]

Yeah, I think they just used the same 3D model to get some more ships in the scene.

[@tuxedotservo]

Cain's XO had clearly seen a hazing or 20. Didn't even flinch until after Shaw had left the CIC and Cain gave him that little smile. This, the officer's dinner, and the XO inviting Cain to literally stay at his home with his wife and kids during the Pegasus refit makes it even more shocking when Cain shoots him in the head for... being a voice of reason.

[@stvdagger8074]

The XO was experienced he had served as XO previously on the Systems Commonwealth Ship Andromeda.

[@mitchellmelkin4078]

tuxedotservo, While it's a matter for considerable debate, it seems, Belzen did disobey a direct order, that wasn't an illegal one, so....

[@tuxedotservo]

@@mitchellmelkin4078 true - Adama himself reviewed her logs and actions, and though maybe harsh, he admitted she technically didn't do anything wrong. The XO was trying to remind Cain that she was about to do what she explicitly said she wouldn't - throw lives away - while perhaps noble, orders/objectives can change on a moments' notice. One of the best things about this show? Very little black and white - but lots of gray - in decision making, morals, etc.

[@LabradorIndependent]

@@tuxedotservo And to this day I'm still not sure if Cain was brutal but effective or insane.

[@Mobius_118]

@@LabradorIndependent It was a good(?) mixture of both. Though that insanity probably stemmed from a deep rooted sense of survivor's guilt given that she survived the First Cylon War whilst her sister didn't. Same with escaping from the Colonies while the rest of Colonial Fleet was annihilated.

[@damonr-fk5rp]

The escape by Pegasus reminds me of the actions of the USS Nevada during the Attack on Pearl Harbor. Nevada was the only battleship to manage to get underway during the attack, and not suffer crippling damage. Unlike the other battleships, it was not moored alongside another battleship, so it had room to maneuver. The OOD had ordered the lighting off of a second boiler earlier in the day because he had intended on switching power to the 2nd one and shutting off the 1st one. Also, the magazine was empty at the time because the crew was in the middle of exchanging their stock of 14 inch shells for heavier ones, so there was no chance of a magazine explosion like what happened on the Arizona. However, where Pegasus managed to get away completely, the Nevada had to beach herself in the main channel of the harbor due to flooding caused by bomb holes.

[@robertgardner942]

Well the Nevada didnt have a FTL drive :-)

[@exarder1377]

They took alot of inspiritarion from the pearl harbor attack, also some during the battle of the the ressurection ship

[@corneliuscrewe677]

Nevada had the unfortunate luck of getting underway just as the second wave flew in. Naturally she became a high priority target.

[@TehAntares]

@@corneliuscrewe677 I always thought it was stupid to attempt to flee the harbor. She could block the harbor entrance, get sunk in deeper water, and be overall much more vulnerable to torpedo bombers.

[@philipchiu9835]

My thoughts exactly regarding the Nevada and Pegasus. Thanks for bring that up. The initial opening surprise attack in BG (both old and new series) was definitely inspired by Pearl Harbor attack.

[@celticdragon4966]

From Ensign to Admiral....that's one hell of a promotion.

[@Ryan_Christopher]

Oh she got demoted to Commodore in the end though.

[@TheWinezen]

@@Ryan_Christopher Posthumous demotions don't matter. But she died as Rear Admiral.

[@walterishere5864]

loads of crazy promotions in that time, most notably from Secretary of Education (43rd in line) to President of the Colonies. What you get when population suddenly goes from 50,000,000,000 to 50,000

[@rhysgarner227]

I kinda liked the initial side of Cain. Stern but actually kind of humorous. Makes her seem more reasonable and human. Not to mention the way she acted during the attack on the shipyard would have been on par with Adama. Her future actions? Well that’s when it all started going downhill the second they launched Blue Squadron during the battle at the relay...

[@HavanaSyndrome69]

I liked her even when she was a horrible dictator. She's just such an amazing actor to watch on screen.

[@piotrd.4850]

Well... actress simply re-created Ro Laren from ST:TNG just on higher up position. Anyway, she hot even hotter with age ;)

[@Silversmok3]

Adm. Adama laid it out in Razor. He admitted straight up without Lee, the President, and Saul Tigh to keep him honest he’d end up just like her. Everyone needs someone to call them out when they screw up, no matter their title.

[@PaiSAMSEN]

It's always interesting and sad how an old wound can flip someone 180 degree when it resurface.

[@isaacjiang1831]

@@Silversmok3 she literally shot the someone who would help her out. Adama did not

[@Frenki94]

Michelle Forbes owned that role. By far one of my favorite characters in the show. Love that - "Lieutenant, NOW!" at 6:53 .

[@tommywilliams5140]

you got that right man. She played the shit out of Admiral Cain they could not have picked a better person for the part.

[@Prometheus7272]

@Suicide Booth I think they were talking about the actor

[@Cailus3542]

@Suicide Booth It is possible to love a character who, despite doing awful and unforgivable things, is nevertheless an exceptionally well written character. That’s Cain, particularly as wonderfully portrayed by Forbes. One of the best parts of her character was when, at the very end, she decides not to assassinate Adama. She instead tells Starbuck how deeply proud she is. Despite everything, Cain showed signs of being redeemable, of wanting to be redeemed, to be better. She was damaged and wrong, but she was never evil. If not for Six killing her, Cain might well have made things work with Adama, Roslin and the rest of the Fleet.

[@skullleaderx4986]

How did Ensign Ro become an admiral so quickly?

[@markymark3572]

Probably my fav episode of the re imagined Galactica, I just love Razor...It has everything...

[@Hunpecked]

I thought it had the highest signal-to-noise ratio of any story in that very noisy series.

[@edinthecouv]

"A little mid-morning snack...." Make it so Ensign Ro..."

[@Riku-zv5dk]

I love the pre-attack Cain scenes, when she is on the treadmill talking to her Xo, and pretty much hazing the uppity Shaw with a verbal beatdown and then laughing about it with said Xo, who by the way implies she is a family friend. It makes her seem more human, and then bam, the attack happens, and she starts to snap from it all, makes it all the more tragic in my mind.

[@patrickmcshane7658]

Aren't they sailors, not soldiers?

[@mrsaltyauthor5992]

PATRICK McShane BSG has always played fast and loose with those specifics. Because in that scene alone, Cain should have returned the salute, shouldn’t have been referred to as sir and her XO wouldn’t be a Colonel. Since the Colonial Military seems to have standardised its ranks and phrases between its armed services they seem to have adopted an equal about of army navy phraseology as jack of all trades for the 4 component services.

[@LabradorIndependent]

@@Riku-zv5dk Then shoots her XO in the face.

[@jasonpereira4024]

@@mrsaltyauthor5992 Agree with your take. I would also add that The Colonials are also a different culture/country from those on Earth, and their military and related customs would be equally different from the Earth equivalents. For instance in most (if not all) Earth militaries you NEVER salute without headdress, yet in the CF they do so all the time.

[@cypherzeros]

BSG might just be Michelle Forbes' best role. She was AMAZING as Cain.

[@w41duvernay]

SHE was also pretty good as a resistance fight on Sarah Connor Tscc.

[@thesparduck117]

Such a shame she only had this and 3 episodes

[@DartLuke]

@@w41duvernay she also played ensign Ro in Star Trek for 8 episodes

[@deftoneseire07]

Unbelievable acter

[@denneledoe873]

@@thesparduck117 I think it's a testament to her as an actor. in 3 episodes she became an absolute legend.

[@LDrumsOhio]

One of my favorite moments of the series. It's scored well, and the action feels frenetic. You know that the Pegasus is going to escape but never understood what it took to make it happen and the stress of making that jump.

[@Sigil_Firebrand]

Cain was a troll, maybe even mean, you could call her a b*tch, but before the Cylon attack she wasn't heartless... Amazing how circumstances change people, Galactica was such a masterpiece on the human condition...

[@BigTylt]

Wow, there are people running along the docking bays right before Pegasus jumps away...I'd hate to be that unlucky pleb who gets to experience an FTL jump on the outside of the ship.

[@HavanaSyndrome69]

Or the unlucky pleb that is a few feet away from one of the only ships to survive the apocalypse.

[@TehAntares]

Since the Mercury class doesn't have retractable hangar bays, it probably isn't a problem for anything or anyone that isn't "inside" the ship.

[@wsconsn]

Same as the starship that got destroyed by the Borg Quebec exploding in First Contact. Congratulations! You helped win the battle of Sector 001...boom!

[@megan00b8]

I mean, in all technicality it should be same on the outside of the ship as it is on the inside, except helluva lot scarier

[@gdfgaming97]

@@megan00b8 well I think the hull protects the crew on the inside of the ship and makes it so that they survive and are brought through with the jump, if you are outside the ship I think you need to be at least maglocked to the hull so you are brought with the ship like combat landed vipers are. If you aren't then you may of been left behind.

[@zoidberg444]

"It doesn't matter where we jump now just frakking do it Lt!"

[@Name-ps9fx]

Absolutely...with two nukes 5 seconds away...so what if you pop into a sun?

[@2QRh6g1I]

Plot armor - how many nukes did Galactica tank? And Pegasus is more advanced, worried about taking on two hits?

[@thehantavirus]

pegasus was a sitting duck.

[@Ueberdoziz]

Pegasus also has a lot less Armor then the old girl...

[@williamcostigan91]

Galactica only ever got hit by one nuke. Everything else was conventional ordinance.

[@AuroraAustralis_]

It was always a sad scene to see all those Battlestars go down without a fight. Dirty fracking toasters!

[@PaiSAMSEN]

Well, shooting your enemy in the back is safer, isn't it?

[@saquist]

It doesn't make sense, I think Battlestars can take numerous nukes

[@T3DNR3D]

@@saquist They can, but the nukes that hit Galactica usually hit her armoured areas and not the vital bits, since they're the ones that slip through the suppression field. Stands to reason that the suppression field would be most concentrated with protecting a Battlestar's critical systems and less around non-critical infrastructure. I imagine if the Cyclons had time to aim and put nukes exactly where they wanted to (like on the defenseless ships at the Shipyard), Galactica wouldn't have survived many herself.

[@livingcoffee_edits]

@@saquist They can and the Cylons hit them with countless nukes, Pegasus was hit by one or possibly more but was still able to jump away. Also, a lot of those battlestars were Odin classes which were much smaller and weaker than bigger battlestars like Jupiters (Galactica's class) and Mercuries (Pegasus' class)

[@alastairmcgregor8080]

Cylon base stars were no match for a battlestar. The whole cylon fleet wouldn’t have a chance against 4 Battlestars.

[@351cleavland]

Remember kids, when somone has just experienced a head injury the best thing to do is hit them in the head. Its like the old TV shows where someone lost their memory from a head injury and then the solution is to hit them again so their memory returns. Its Science!

[@Kalenz1234]

The shock and adrenaline rush from being slapped can force someone who is disoriented or confused to focus. Doesn't help against a concussion though.

[@Alex_Plante]

Well, that's how the old TVs worked...

[@johnbuchman4854]

@@geoffreynoonan4334 Study WW I and you'll understand why Patton slapped the shell-shocked soldier and that it was actually for the soldier's benefit, and not a case of anger at all.

[@acezenfu3293]

You say that as a joke however there have been cases of people who lost their sight do to head trauma, regain it some years later due to another application of head trauma.

[@Izznogood76]

The music on the show is amazing!

[@bloodondope]

agree, I especially love every track involving kendra shaw's theme. such a beautiful, melancholic melody.

[@urbanguerilla5774]

@@bloodondope buy the CD its amazing.

[@Marcsharp82]

I've watched this clip many times, However this is the first time I've watched it with headphones and so I've just noticed that the door Kendra and Hosbi walk through has the sound effect of the Holodeck doors from Star Trek TNG

[@Farzlepot]

Ensign Ro must've stolen it when she jumped universes.

[@GlamorousTitanic21]

I’ve always wondered, if the attack on Scorpion Fleet Shipyards was modeled after the attack on Pearl Harbor, was the Pegasus’s escape modeled after the attempted escape of the USS Nevada during the attack? It’s been made pretty clear that BSG takes heavy reference from naval terminology and tradition here on earth, so it is entirely possible.

[@brianholloway2358]

It has all happened before...it will all happen again.

[@piotrd.4850]

Well, there are clearly tyllium tanks that are NOT being attacked, so....

[@Ser_Redshirt]

This show ended in 2009 and this scene STILL gets my hair raised.

[@BrennanTheContentWhisperer]

I feel like I’ve seen that helpful young lady before.. A few times..

[@BryanHobbsMcCalister]

When I first saw this, All I could think was, "Hello Admiral Ro Laren. I know the actress didn't care for the character she played in ST: TNG but she did an awesome job with the role.

[@psx0005rr]

This, and many scenes like it, kept me invested in the show. The feeling of being in the middle of a life-changing situation can only be brought to reality by the excellent execution of Ron Moore's ideas. What he brought to Star Trek in its early days was unleashed full throttle when he was able to do Galactica :)

[@SPACECRUISER96]

Finally, you started adding clips from the movies as well. That is a nice thing. I am waiting for the clips of Columbia's destruction and the "hacking" of Valkyrie over Caprica

[@thehantavirus]

copyright issues no doubt

[@SPACECRUISER96]

But this is an official Channel

[@ArmyofAuroraCompositions]

@@SPACECRUISER96 Not necessarily

[@VincentVisee]

Army of Aurora yes it is

[@ArmyofAuroraCompositions]

@@VincentVisee Why do you think so? I was able to successfully upload a 6 min bsg clip uncut

[@tech83studio38]

I've always enjoyed how compact the Pegasus's CIC / Bridge is compact compared to Galactica.

[@SPACECRUISER96]

Just imagine the chaos inside the Scorpia Shipyards or that Valkyrie class Battlestar that was broke in half At least Pegasus had an online FTL

[@megan00b8]

I doubt there was much chaos to be experienced inside the broken Valkyrie, with that kind of damage the tylium tank just catches ablaze and turns the entire crew into a buncho chicken nuggets within seconds.

[@ericmorang3903]

@@megan00b8 The rest died from explosive decompression.

[@Eoraptor1]

"Travelling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops..." -Han Solo JAMES

[@DrQAnonymous]

Admiral Cain is one of the best SciFi characters. It is a shame they didnt have her for longer than one season.

[@johnsonjunior547]

They couldn't really have her in the show for more than what she was in. Her and her crew constantly caused issues and would've set back the show in terms of cylon plot development. She would have too much power over Adama and it'd be annoying to watch imho. She's cool when she shows up but because of how she handles her crew and how little she cares about the civilians, you would've just had episode after episode of our favorite characters being essentially tortured.

[@Cailus3542]

@@johnsonjunior547 While you're not wrong, as such, there are indications that Cain could change, and most important, wanted to change. Despite everything, she decided not to assassinate Adama. As Kara says at Cain's funeral, her death was a huge loss for the fleet. It's not a story that the show could tell (it was called Battlestar Galactica, after all), but it's a fascinating thing to ponder.

[@BattlestarGentoo]

2:08 Goa'uld Camulus and Ensign Ro Laren serve on the same ship. nice.

[@TotinosPizzaRollz]

"Razor" was a great standalone movie. "The Plan", not so much. "Blood and Chrome" is best forgotten.

[@darkshadow54]

Good god, I forgot about Blood and Chrome!

[@LightSightTCR]

First part of BaC was nice

[@KawaiiSoulB42]

That lieutenant Shaw is super cute.

[@TotinosPizzaRollz]

BaC seemed to be an expanded rehash of the Young Adama flashback from Razor. If they had kept the same actor it would have been much better.

[@VideoAmateurLuxembourg]

Caprica was a nightmare.

[@xC4N4D14NB4C0Nx]

4 episodes and admiral cain is seared into my brain.

[@rbartig]

Almost forgot how good this show was.

[@sw-gs]

I like how her voice breaks dow at the end of sentence: "Just frakin' do it lieutenant!", like it shows that she is scared too. I think that Cain was brilliant character, she tried to show how though she is but inside was still that scared little girl, hiding from the Cylons. And when people got scared they do stupid things.

[@__a6290]

No, she wasn't scared at all. She was frustrated that her lieutenant hesitated in taking action. Scared little girl? Only in your mind.

[@megan00b8]

I doubt Cain was scared, I'd say it's more likely she was hiding anger, not fear.

[@Gunner192]

I don't think only a little girl would be scared in a war zone with nukes approaching.

[@tubetop123]

Razor was fraking awesome

[@CrimsonSurvival]

I liked Cain, when you think about it, all she tried to do was her job during an all out war with the Cylons. She had to make tough, fast choices.

[@Dreez76]

She was a good commander, but a terrible human. She let warcrimes be commited on her ship, infact she promoted it. Galacticas crew loved Adama, Pegasus crew feared Cain.

[@sky173]

Good movie if you want to learn more about Gina Inviere. Love the fact they used 'Inviere' as her last name; meaning 'resurrection'.

[@Proximax9]

I should probably watch this. Never realised it even excisted lol. Seems really good

[@debestcanadian]

I've used this video as a good way of introducing people who have never watched BSG to see the "flavour" of the show. The military setting, the realistic portrayal, the style of cinematography. All while spoiling nothing of the show beyond the first five minutes of the miniseries. I've told them that if this looks like the makings of a good show, they should watch the series from the beginning with no additional spoilers.

[@danielhaire6677]

Before she broke psychologically and psychotically, Cain seems to have been one hell of a CO.

[@tinamoul]

I don't understand how people can like Admiral Kane. Mitchell Forbes is an amazing actress and she played the hell out of that role, really brought nuance and depth to the role, doesn't change the fact that Kane is a horrible human being, she's a fucking disaster.

[@eglantinepapeau1582]

yes, i agree she's a horrible person, but she's the best they had for that situation, she saved their lives

[@zhollamychalis4252]

same way people idolize Vader. For me I will always see the child cadet standing with a light saber as Anakin comes to slaughter them all. Like you and Cain...I just don't see the admiration. I understand what broke her. But the admiration I just don't get. And we are probably the better for not seeing admiration in her actions.

[@Cailus3542]

@@zhollamychalis4252 Cain's character was established as a mirror to Adama. She is essentially what he would've become if Galactica didn't have the civilian fleet, or Lee and Kara.

[@zhollamychalis4252]

@@Cailus3542 Oh yes. And like Ciersei from GOTS...she got off easy...

[@ajax1137]

Pegasus was an unhealthy ship with a toxic command culture which proliferated throughout the entire crew. No matter how good their combat skills, they were corrupt and morally adrift. The chief engineer was the only person that ever hinted that he possessed an internal compass. Their behavior was depraved and went well beyond "survival" behavior. The people certainly didn't deserve such a fine ship.

[@BattlestarZenobia]

Exactly she turned it into a cesspit of a pirate ship and almost everyone involved should have been discharged from service and faced hefty prison sentences

[@GhostPapaParanormal]

Great vid!!! Keep adding more from the Razor!!!

[@lisamaitland157]

They had Cylons on the ships, and i just saw a Goa' uld writing something down. Cains ship is filled with the right people lol :)

[@Haldinyar]

Lisa maitland ol Cammy

[@yodaslovetoy]

He also turned traitor against captain Dillon hunt and the commonwealth

[@notnow1639]

He doesn't get enough love he is so underused he needed a brake out roll so bad

[@splatoonistproductions5345]

5:01 god that groaning from the Valkyrie class being split in two, so sad to see such a beautiful ship go down like that

[@JohnG44]

And the crew bet their so many alive and trapped in most just dying from space after and no rescue for any of them.

[@MichaelBuieFilms]

Such a wonderfully talented and gorgeous woman... love watching her act!

[@lawrencekramer7331]

BSG: Razor. GOSH!!! My favorite tv movie!!

[@donnovicki9771]

This show and The Expanse are the two preeminent sci-fi shows IMO. Both shows had real people struggling with multiple issues both personal and others, and portrayed their characters as flawed humans. The attack on the shipyard and later the Resurrection ship are first class. As for the Expanse, the season 6 battle with Marco, remains the best battle of the series. Have watched both of these shows many times and have BSG on DVD.

[@zhicaofang2354]

Razor was a great standalone movie, and it was also precious since it is the only piece of the remade series where a very detailed Cylon attack on Colonial fleet (not just the colonies planets, but the fleet) was depicted (contra the "swipe, strike, sweep" as depicted in the TV series and The Plan)

[@RinaRavyn]

wait wait wait.... you guys in the comments are trying to tell me, that galactica has been hit with dozens of nukes and lived to tell the tale? HAVE YOU EVEN WATCHED THE DAMN SHOW?! Galatica Nuke count: ONE! And that one couldve been the end of it as well! On the way to Ragnar Anchorage in the miniseries. A single warhead from a raider that vipers couldnt intercept hit the port flight pod and barely even managed to destroy the ship! Pegasus Nuke count: At least 6! Three hits she mightve suffered at Scorpion Shipyard, wich is based on when the XO says "Multiple hits" - so ofc that would mean two at the least but my money is on three. And another 3 in the episode "A Captains Hand" - when garner jumped the ship into a cylon trap and they got hit with two nukes in the opening salvo - even before action stations. The third nuclear hit was during the ensuing battle when Lee takes command. So PISS OFF with galactica withstanding dozens of nuke hits xD She didn do nuffin!

[@sw-gs]

Well, Galactica had 45% of hull armor removed, Pegasus got brand new armor.

[@RinaRavyn]

@@sw-gs Well Pegasus had more guns than galactica.

[@basileusmichael1244]

Pegasus was far better ship than Galactica overall.

[@hyperfusiongear9050]

Oh dear come on people it's just a TV series. Plus the Galatica is a older model and the Pegasus is a newer model not only that I did hear that 40%-50% of its armor was removed after the war was over and its weapons to making it in to a museum but like I said I heard about it. Someone did say to me that they saw a battlestar Galactica movie that talked about the first war with young Adama seeing the Galatica in its earlier years with full armor and so many double A battery weapons but like I said before I just heard about it. But if I would choose between a classic Battlestar galactica with it's full armor and weaponry or the Advanced battlestar pegasus the murcary-class with all its beauty and shiny looks well for me I'll stick with the old bucket. Don't get me wrong the pegasus looks pretty and beautiful top of the line but in the end how many of those murcary-classes where made and were they considered as flagship for Admiral ranks only were they made close to the end of the first cylon war or after the war was finished and who thought it would be a good idea to allow command Navigation Program in your ships dear man its Baltar's idea you don't even know if it has a backdoor and not only that it's not 100% proof it had it shortfalls and he even ask number 6 ti fix the base code for him that arrogant man how could you even trust that harlot.

[@Brswing]

@@basileusmichael1244 Pegasus was also a newer Battlestar, whereas Galactica was being decommissioned. Also keep in mind dthat the dozens of nuke hits were implied over the course of its history, etc etc.

[@festalongreyhawkshorts4sho645]

Ah, Ensign Roe ! ( STTNG ). What a epic performance from the actris!

[@purpleunicornmedia]

One of the best action sequences

[@Husker5454]

watched this recently . great movie/follow on thing .

[@surshot56]

"IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE WE JUMP"

[@TehAntares]

6:24 - For a split second, Cain can be seen holding her head. Haven't noticed she got injured or something. Curious.

[@nelsonc6173]

Michele Forbes as Cain was so fucking spot on! I just wish they had handled her character differently! But I get that her outcome fitted in with the whole tragic Armageddon style and approach. But still I would have loved to have seen a whole series based on her as Cain!

[@Arctic_Fox_NFFC]

PEARL HARBOR - IN SPACE - A MASTERPIECE

[@jacobkleinsasser5658]

"Excuse me can you please point me towards..." WOAH WOAH WOAH!!! If you got transferred to a ship, no military would just drop you off and say "Best of luck." They would let you know exactly where you need to be! Why? The last thing anyone wants is for someone to be running around like a chicken with their head cut off in the middle of a battle! Especially if that person was supposed to be doing something important!

[@gurley1022]

Actually they have done both to me. And directions doesn’t mean finding it

[@jacobkleinsasser5658]

Christopher Gurley I'm sorry but I don't take anecdotal evidence.

[@Carl_Aznable]

There was no battle when she arrived. The Cylon attack happened as she was being escorted to her quarters

[@jacobkleinsasser5658]

ZiceLove I know that. I was using a metaphor.

[@jeremibrewer2309]

My first command, they show me to my bunk and said chow is being served on the mess decks. Had no clue where to go. In Afghanistan a CH-47 Dropped about 6 of us off at BAF and spent nearly two hours wondering around trying to find where we need to go. Sometimes there is no welcoming party for new arrivals.

[@jonny-b4954]

Awesome how at the very end when it jumps it somehow looks like it pulls the fire towards it. Weird

[@SpaceMonke99]

It's a cool shot but doesn't make a lot of sense. The shipyards appear to be in high orbit, so they're already in a vacuum. If you wanted to get even more pedantic, fire wouldn't even behave in space like it does in this show.

[@NorCalMtnBiker86]

I love Admiral Cain.

[@CaptainSnackbar]

this show was amazing

[@desertdude8274]

This show has a good presentation of Navy banter.

[@Quasimodo-mq8tw]

Its a suttle thing and it could be i am overly sceptical of Cain but one of the reasons i hate her character(greatly acted) is here. She accusses her to be aid of using her connections and wanting to be a career climber. Something she is known in the higher ups of the fleet to be and to do(said in the introduction of her by Adama ). She at least impleys that for her there are special rules.

[@padawanmage71]

Loved this scene as we didn't see the attack happen to the shipyards in the original Miniseries. What a contrast Cain had when hazing Shaw, being personable with her XO...and then shooting him in front of her crew. I guess she could've just had him relieved and had Fisk take over right there...but i think a Message needed to be sent for all to see. When i saw that scene, not only did it show how 'grey' the show is, but i also realized that something like that would never, EVER, happen in Star Trek (with its black and white morality and no one every getting into fights or questioning commands at the point of a gun).

[@knighriderredux]

I enjoyed Ensign Ro, but admired her portrayal of Admiral Cain. A decade before #metoo and before everyone acted surprised when a woman of power is portrayed in such an awesome way.

[@piotrd.4850]

.... and now, some people say, that there had never been "str0nk Whaaaamen!" on screen. They are not wrong, in a way - back then, we had great, competent WOMEN CHARACTERS.

[@simonwillis1529]

Totally agree

[@ainako1010]

@@piotrd.4850 Also Cain was also a lesbian. Unlike CW Batwoman she didn't need to advertise it on her sleeve. Was it a part of her character, yes. But was it her sole identifying characteristic, frak no.

[@bjornjoseph]

Imagine being outside running for a hatch then just as you're crossing the threshold they jump

[@chrispeplinski7306]

Seeing all the battlestars destroyed except Pegasus heartbreaking

[@mrsaltyauthor5992]

I know it wouldn’t be as interesting but I would love to see a what if miniseries that follows the Pegasus and her crew through a second cylon war where the CNP wasn’t activated

[@jamiestewart48]

Without their back door the cylons stood very little chance and knew it. Look how effective a battered old museum was and throw in a hundred more with more being churned out as fast as possible. That forward battery on Pegasus tore through base stars like they were paper for frack sakes.

[@mrsaltyauthor5992]

@@jamiestewart48 yeah absolutely that's why it wouldn't be as interesting and would only be a miniseries at most

[@magisterrleth3129]

Without the CNP, the Clyons would've been crushed. Their Basestars were designed around the idea of conducting a nuclear Holocaust against a defenseless target, just the way Cavil wanted. The Colonial fleet had well over a hundred battlestars. Even if most of those were the compact Valkyries, the Valkyries were the most heavily armed ship square foot for square foot the Colonial Fleet had, and were designed to operate in divisions, further multiplying their formidable firepower. Cylon Basestars, who had trouble dealing with Galactica, an obsolete battlestar with most of her armor stripped off, one of her flight pods deactivated, and a rotten skeleton, would not have lasted against the unfettered might of the vast Colonial Fleet.

[@thegreygrappler6280]

So bloody good

[@LauraS1]

You know, if Michelle Forbes had had children, I wonder if she would've nailed them with That Look that says "Don't make me have to go all Admiral Cain on you". LOL She plays strong, authoritative yet feminine characters to utter perfection. I wish I had her skill at packing that much implacable, deadly serious command into her voice when she's issuing orders.

[@FarSeeker8]

What is it about Steve Bacic's characters that have their commanding officers killing them? ;)

[@notnow1639]

Sean Bean syndrome

[@tyson31415]

Sometimes the place you want to be is anywhere but here.

[@stevenewman1393]

Razor is truly one of my all time favorite Battlestar Galactica movies along with Blood and Chrome, And The Plan was good but not as spectacular as the other two though!...

[@piotrd.4850]

Actor playing XO has single trope: he died shot by his CO in Andromeda, in BSG and one other show or movie I can't name now ;)

[@ainako1010]

He played a Goa'uld Camulus in SG-1

[@notnow1639]

Sean Bean syndrome And no brake out roll where he could shine

[@tompengelly8030]

I'm normally not too fussed about actors. They do hard, good work but I'm always a bit meh. But I heard that it was Michelle Forbes' interpretation of the line "She ate at our table" that led to the admiral being in a relationship with Gina, and just that... Attunement to relationships, irrespective of gender, made me respect her so much. It's like something from Oscar Wilde. So mundane yet so full of depth, and she gave it that depth. I can't get enough of Admiral Cain's storyline, and everything Michelle Forbes brought to her ever since. (Helps I saw her on 24 as well though heh).

[@nickmitsialis]

I remember her as Ensign Ro Laren from TNG but I REALLY remember her as a Medical Examiner for one of the seasons for Homicide: Life on the Streets. Homicide used to be THE show I would look to as having some of the best acting on TV)===kind of like how BSG, even with all of it's ups and downs also had some of the best performances I have seen. AND switching gears back to Homicide:(Check out the ep where the Jon Polito character commits suicide and none of the brass want to give him an 'honor guard'; Andre Braugher was somewhat unsympathetic to the character's death---BUT as his friends carry the coffin by the station house, there's the Braugher character in full dress uniform to render a salute as he passes

[@PaiSAMSEN]

I would think, on a warship 2.5 kilometers long, they would be at least a few maps to tell you how to get to other area.

[@Cailus3542]

They don’t even do that on real warships, believe it or not.

[@kills26]

Should have headed the old saying, never put all your Battlestar's in one space dock.

[@nightstepgaming493]

All those Battlestars...just gone...

[@JustSumGuy01]

All those planets...just gone. All those lives. All that civilization because of hubris.

[@JustSumGuy01]

Imagine if the future humanity on our Earth eons later ever make it back to this part of the universe and start asking the question "...what the frack happened here?"

[@Gaeilgeoir]

Where can I find this series?!? 😭

[@bigbitehood1353]

The implosion shockwave from the jump pulling in the flames is a cool detail... until you remember that fire needs oxygen and there's a distinct lack of the stuff in outer space....

[@piotrd.4850]

Same during adama Manouver.

[@TheWinezen]

I always wished we could have seen the Battlestar Pegasus on her own adventures but without suffering her tragic fate in the series. Perhaps we can use the Pegasus Emergency Blind Jump as a fork or convergence in time. A blind jump amidst all that nuclear detonation from the attacks on Scorpion shipyard could have created a Quantum entanglement scenario where Pegasus ripped the fabric of space time and created an alternate timeline or universe where she would havea different story. we'll call the series BS-62.

[@intellexae]

That damned LT hesitated. After that jump she would have gotten a serious ass chewing for that.

[@mitchbarredo3990]

Admiral Cain loves women's asses. She's gay like that.

[@Zoomer30_]

Admiral Cain: Captain, Yes Doctor, No

[@Acc0rd79]

And that's why you never put all of your ships in one spot. You spread them out so if some get hit, you aren't completely wiped out!!

[@bensuedan]

Which episode was this please?

[@matthewv789]

Haha the Cylon is the only nice person on the ship.

[@rvm3714]

Anyone stop to think that Cain went full on Patton on a crew member that might have had a serious head injury? LMAO

[@hyperfusiongear9050]

Frank me any second longer that ship would've been hit and destroyed.

[@soyuz281]

So that's where Lt. Hoshi first show up. I was this before but didn't connect him with later storyline.

[@yxeaviationphotog]

Shaw mentions resurrection. Six:. "I'm not a Cylon!" Shaw: "What?!" Six:"What?!"

[@tacticalderpy2077]

If you look carefully, there were people, in ev suit, on the outside of the ship, when they jumped.

[@Armann_]

When the Resurrection Ship was broadsided you can see burning bodies fly out of the “glass” hull as the vipers fly by.

[@tastynottasty3314]

Whatta great actress.

[@87yugo74]

Michele Forbes nailed this scene.

[@TheGiggityG]

Great show

[@earthdate3495]

The saga began with a blind FTL jump and ended with a blind FTL jump.

[@deathstrike]

My guess is the Lieutenant would have to have made an extremely short jump