Battletech Lore - Warhammer Heavy Battlemech

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

Apologies for the intro title. I apparently forgot to replace the name ZEUS with Warhammer somehow.

[@tuanvandersluis4433]

I love this heavy mech.

[@benlaskowski357]

'Sokay.

[@shade8816]

Ah, what a neat Destroid... wait a minute...

[@3xfaster]

I love the base WHR-6R. Used in TT setting, had an ammo explosion, both side torsos blown off, pilot knocked out up to the last injury box, and Mech toppled. Rolled to recover my pilot, was able to stand on first attempt, and thus was a walking stick that enabled me to call spotter on a retreating Nova to pick it off with another Mech dropping LRMs on it.

[@Duchess_Van_Hoof]

One of the examples of a well designed IS heavy mechs, and a mech I would use over any assault mech.

[@mickbrown7793]

Might have been worth mentioning it was a response to the Federated Suns' BattleAxe and Hammerhands, eventually supplanting those designs even in Davion service.

[@traviscochran6280]

Solid mech. The Davion variant that drops the ammo weapons and up armors is one of the best. The Warhammer hits hard, I can't imagine an assault lance without one.

[@mbr5742]

I still believe that variant is mislabeled. Those cradel robbing hillybillies would not understand something as complex as a Hammer and would never give up on something that throws projectiles. Most likely they stole the plans from Steiner as well ;)

[@mbr5742]

But yes, the all energy variant is a monster in 3025 play. Lots of heat sinks, good armor and heavy punch. Few mechs under 85to that can stand up to it outside urban combat

[@willdavis3802]

Prefer the WHM-6K personally. Ive had bad experiences in tabletop with hidden infantry not to have some small lasers, but ditching the machine guns is just common sense on mechs.

[@willdavis3802]

@@mbr5742 The Davion Marauder does the same, all energy weapons.

[@mbr5742]

@@willdavis3802 That one likely fell of the back of a dropship that was de-toured through HillyBilly Space.

[@enoughothis]

My Warhammer is called Ghal Maraz. If you need that joke explained you're in the wrong place.

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

Fortunately, i don't need it explained :D

[@floridaman3823]

40,000 TONS! LOTS AND LOTS OF WARHAMMER!

[@Axzealot]

The best mech ever made

[@dubuyajay9964]

No doubt.

[@osmacar5331]

Found your favourite mech

[@jonathanscott8994]

If it was 80 short tons (1000 lbs) then this does weigh approximately 40,000 kilograms...

[@griffincrump5077]

That would be funny but I’m pretty sure battletech uses metric tons

[@willdavis3802]

If it was the size of a locust, it would be 40k pounds.

[@Alex-pj8nz]

The Clan warhammer IIc is 80 tons

[@joshua19717]

@@griffincrump5077 The M1A2 Abrams main battle tank weighs about 69 US tons and would barely be considered a medium tank, so I think that they use there own version of ton. The most common consensus is just that the creators of BT were not scientists.

[@griffincrump5077]

@@joshua19717 there’s no doubt they aren’t scientists regardless, but they try to use exclusively metric units of measurement so the tons are also likely metric tons. Does that make any degree of sense? No, but it’s Battletech, so go figure.

[@Cbabilon675]

I like the fact that we're all the weapon placement is on that design. I've had fun with mine including putting on anything from Gauss rifles, too light Gauss rifles. Makes for some very interesting variance on a tabletop Battlefield.

[@Peter_Morris]

I like the “re-seen” artwork from a few years ago for the Warhammer, Marauder, and others. They just epitomize the hulking, stompy nature of Battlemechs.

[@jerzymike5564]

I like to replace the PPC's with Snubs, freeing 2 tons for armor, the MG's with another pair of Small Lasers, the MG ammo with a Heat Bank, and the SRM6 & ammo for 4 Jump Jets, and upgrade Heat Sinks to Doubles(when possible). I call this variant "Mjolnir".

[@anna-elizabeth]

An absolutely iconic "Mech. I found an old, used, lead casting Warhammer on eBay, and stripped it, restored it, and painted it as "Black Lady", the personal Warhammer of Captain Natasha Kerensky. I also acquired a plastic Destroid from Palladium's "Robotech Tactics" set to have a more-detailed "Black Lady", and I should soon have in-hand a new Catalyst Warhammer.

[@rollingthunder55]

Just a great all around heavy mech that I've always had great luck with. Only issue with it is the weak leg armor. Almost always wanted to find some level 1 cover to hide the legs behind.

[@willdavis3802]

Mmmm, head shot city. Cover is a trap in tabletop.

[@Kuraimizu9152]

The "Missiles incoming! Better torso twist to spread the damage around and my arms are gone" mech.

[@titenstudios2081]

seeing as most battlemechs never reach 100 tons, a 40,000 ton battlemech would be used as a improvised asteroid, "who needs a new parkinglot?"

[@impressiveprogressive7343]

This is absolutely without any doubt the the most recognizable and fearsome battle mech to make it off the design table and into mech hangers around the sphere. One of my early favorites. This mech shares a design feature with the venerable and proven Rifleman in that they share the same legs and waist designs in the early artwork and early table top games. This is also one of the most hotly contested designs from the Harmony Gold era. It may not be widely known that 6 designs were hotly contested in lawsuits that held up mechwarrior advancement for years, they were: The Warhammer The Rifleman The Marauder The Archer The Stinger (still yet to be released) The Wasp (still yet to be released) Other units from the battletech universe were the Ostroc, and the Ostroc MKII that were used by the antagonists in Robotech. The 4 heavy designs were known in Macross and Robotech as "Destroids", In those story lines emphasis was on the lights, the Wasp, Stinger, the Crusader (medium) while the antagonist used what was known in battletech as the "Ostroc" and "Ostsoc MKII" design of "battle pods, The Marauder was usually depicted as a command mech for those units. There was a total lock on all battletech gaming for a long long time over the rights of these designs. I guess they underestimated the loyalty of the Battletech fans, as soon as a game came out, harmony gold would file lawsuits and then there wouldn't anything for years, then something would come out and harmony gold would file another lawsuit, and on and on. Thats why battletech and mechwarrior fans absolutely hates Harmony Gold ( he spits toward the ground), sorry the taste of that name is too much.

[@elenorefangirl3389]

This was the first mech I used when I was learning how to play when the game was called Battledroids.

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

Nice. Thanks for sharing :)

[@hansclaw]

in my opinion, one of the best battlemech of all times! i still have my "Cat killer 5" from the 2nd Arkab Legion

[@JamesSavik]

Back in the 90s, my gaming group was Battletech crazed. At the time, I was kind of meh about it, but that's what they liked to play. I did a little research and decided I wanted to specialize in the Warhammer. It was a solid all-around mech and had a nice weapon balance. I bought two of them, painted them deep panzer gray, and detailed their weapons. That's what I always played with. I did all right. Everyone else was playing their mech of the day, I knew the Warhammer better, every engagement. Pretty soon, my opponents were dreading seeing the pair of dark Warhammers.

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

Thanks for sharing.

[@roguerifter9724]

The 6D is my personal favorite Warhammer variant though I usually shave two of the four extra tons of leg armor off for Jump Jets.

[@yankeeclipper4326]

The original Mecha. 3:48 is the illustration that got me into Battletech. I mean, how cool does that look to a 12 yo kid!

[@barrybend7189]

Yes a Tomahawk Destroid.

[@BMichaelGalloway]

Same here! Remember the cover of City Tech with the Archer plowing through the buildings?

[@yankeeclipper4326]

@@BMichaelGalloway Yes! With the awesome tiger stripe camo!

[@77Arcturus]

Wo Momma! The Warhammer. A devastating frontline brawler that pretty much does it all except run at recon Battlemech speed. One of my favorite classic designs alongside the Battlemaster I used 80% of the time when playing tabletop. Here is hoping HBS is able to get it into their BATTLETECH video game now that the lawsuit connected to ROBOTECH is done. Just the visuals alone screams pure brute military power with those humongous ppcs on both arms. Thanks GrimDark Narrator for the stunning work aglow with professionalism :)

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

Thank you!

[@77Arcturus]

@@GrimDarkNarrator Welcome :D

[@dubuyajay9964]

My favorite Mech. With the Harmony Gold case being thrown out and the Warhammer on the 35th Anniversary Logo, hopefully my favorite mech team (Warhammer and Archer) will finally make a comeback.

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

Archer is one that I like also.

[@franksmedley8619]

Hello Grim. I have both used and faced just about every Warhammer Mech in the game during the several decades I've played the tabletop game, and later the HBS computer game. The Warhammer is an 'iconic' Mech. One that just about every player recognizes and either loves, or hates. For myself, I both loved and hated this Mech design. The 6R's issues with heat overload being the primary reason to dislike it. But, with the introduction of the Helm Memory Core's tech, one can redesign and refit older Warhammers to make them more efficient fighting machines. Which, I must say, I gleefully did. I won't bore you with all the variants I came up with, but all benefit from the upgrading of Heat Sinks to DSHS, at the least. One design even has an Inner Sphere Targeting Computer for it's pair of PPCs. Love it, or hate it. The Warhammer is a 'staple' of the B-Tech Universe, and one that will keep marching into battle, despite any detractor's desires.

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

Thanks, Frank!

[@UCSPanther20]

A good solid front line mech, tough and loaded with heavy firepower, capable of incinerating anything that stands against it. Just has the annoying tendency to run hot if you get too carried away with discharging its energy weapons. I would definitely say that the Warhammer is the grandfather of the Hellbringer, as they have a similar appearance and basic weapon configuration. Only difference is that the Hellbringer is omni-capable, lighter, more agile and faster, but much more fragile.

[@jamesricker3997]

Solution: use standard ppc's and double heat sinks, have three tons of armor and use the remaining 4 tons to upgrade the short range weaponry

[@gruberjens4354]

It's always been a close call, which mech is cooler... Warhammer or Marauder? I guess the appropriate answer is a clear "yes!"

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

Definitely.

[@treevenewson]

Very good, it's one of my all time favorites in the top 5. I piloted it after watching the original ROBOTECH videos on TV.

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

Classic

[@cliffcampbell8827]

I've always loved this mech. It's one of the absolute best heavies out there. I am a little disappointed that you didn't include the IIc inner sphere refit tho.

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

There are some IIC's I'll revisit at some point.

[@cliffcampbell8827]

@@GrimDarkNarrator Excellent! I'm looking forward to it.

[@HalfBreedMix]

3:48 Oh look,,,,, it's the Excaliber MK VI of the RDF (Robotech Defense Force).

[@barrybend7189]

Actually Tomahawk Destroid from SDF Macross. Though to be honest the Tomahawk is only 10 meters tall and weighs 30 tons.

[@cliffcampbell8827]

I recognize it as the cover artwork to the box set of Battletech. Was that image also used in promotional materials for Robotech?

[@dante001ish]

Careful Harmony Gold might try to own this video... We know how they love claiming Franchises they do nothing with.

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

We'll just wait and see I guess.

[@dubuyajay9964]

The case got thrown out. Also, see the 35 Anniversary Logo. It has a Warhammer on it. Hopefully the Forgotten are making a comeback.

[@liljenborg2517]

That's why all those 2050 warhammer designs look so little like a warhammer. But those days are over now!

[@CoolKid-qk7tl]

Don't worry, lawsuits are a part of the Battletech tradition

[@LuoSon312_G8]

Kinda hard when they butchered macross' designs to a bunch of franchises, then had the gawl to sue copyright against every single one of them, including the original macross anime. Their greed has gotten so bad that every franchise that'd adapted mecha from "robotech" has been untouchable for the last three decades.

[@tonk5711]

At first when i saw this big fella in MW5 i thought its assault

[@douglasbaker5433]

First of all, I am very pleased with your presentation! It is both very informative as well as entertaining. This is no easy feat. I am well aware of the fact the Mechwarriors would each need to be given their own video presentations. Therefore, I fully support your wise decision to make each of the Mechwarrior entries here, brief. As to the Warhammer Battlemech, I have been a fan of the design since the first time I got the Battletech Boxed Game in 1990. The excellent firepower and good armor protection makes it a great combat system. Making it even better, is the quality engine that gives the Warhammer respectable speed on the battlefield. My favorite part of this Battlemech is that it has weapons for almost all possible ranges. The only thing that I often do to modify it is to replace the Machine Guns & Ammunition, as well as the SRM with an LRM 10 system for long range firepower and especially for indirect fire support. Thank you for your excellent and informative presentation!

[@akiraguy]

Personally I exchanged those mg+ammo with 2sl

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

Thanks for the support and sharing. This format will persist for the future though I might enhance it a bit when possible.

[@hku99]

More great stuff.Keep them coming. Thanks

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

Thanks.

[@redeye117]

The Warhammer look so similiar to Macross Destroid Tomahawk

[@jonathanscott8994]

The intro says "Zeus Assault Mech"

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

My bad there. I don't know how but apparently didn't edit that section properly :(

[@yourearidiculouslunatic8435]

Rather have a Warhammer than a Zeus.

[@NKGerydos]

"At lest it doesn't weight 40k tons" #instant like xD

[@adammorey9882]

Sweet keep them coming I am having a blast

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

Thanks.

[@MADSAHAD]

I started playing Battletech shortly after the release of the 2nd edtion, I fell in love with this and the Marauder. My go-to Lance combo but then was Warhammer, Marauder, Archer, and my top favorite, the BattleMaster. You already covered the Marauder and now the Warhammer so I am asking you, if possible, can you cover the Archer and the BattleMaster, please

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

I'll add them to the roster poll the next time :)

[@schnarre0]

...Lost track of the number of variants of this Mech I would field, though 2 stand out: 1) Replace the SRM-6 & ammo with 4 Medium Lasers (coupled with the other 2 medium lasers it already has, this makes short work of anything that gets too close for the PPCs), & drop the Machine Guns & ammo with Flamers (not unlike the Liao -6L variant) & 2) A city fighting variant, downgrades the PPCs to Large Lasers, replaces the SRM with Medium Lasers (as per the above variant), drops the Machine Guns for 2 rear-firing Medium Lasers, adds a Flamer (Infantry cook real good!), & 3 tons of armor. A bit less effective in the open field than the PPC-armed types, but in close-quarters I was able to turn even a BattleMaster into swiss cheese! ...With 3050....Oh the possibilities!!!! *grins evilly*

[@akiraguy]

you could field an entire battalion with nothing but warhammers differing variants.

[@seankane8628]

Replace the PPCs with the ER version

[@keianna5106]

very literaly my fave mech chassis!

[@keianna5106]

i have a merc lance that has a warhammer in it that merc lance has never loss all 4 members in a game(though been down 3 alot >.>)

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

Lovely :D

[@floridaman3823]

IF FERRUS MANUS BUILT A BATTLE MECH!

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

I think Ferrus would definitely build an assault mech.

[@floridaman3823]

@@GrimDarkNarrator Lies! The Holy Mechanicum of Mars and our faithful ally, he whose augmentation was written into him by The Omnissiah know full well that the Motive force is found within the heavy mech; a class capable of both speed, manueverabilit, and firepower second only to the assualt mechs. This Blasphemy must end!

[@theodorewiltrout8770]

Yes your video was entertaining. The warhammer mech was the first mech I ran in the game. But I favor the marauder as a heavy mech or the timberwolf in the clan heavy mech. As for assult mechs it depends on if I want mobility or firepower. As for medium class mechs it will be either the bushwhacker or centurion. In the light mechs the puma or wolfhound. But I've had good luck with the wasp or stinger mechs.

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

Thanks.

[@tuanvandersluis4433]

I would love to pilat a old class war hammer mech.

[@paulhuston9991]

This is one of the greats. Armor to spare, mobility, and slugging ability. A heat curve but hey 3050tro made it moot. The favored ride of Natasha Kerensky for like 2 decades, the black widow spent more time in one than any other. That will tell you something. I had to wait twenty plus years to own my own and it's an unseen. It is a flash of my youth like the PPC fire of a dream. Almost smell the ozone. As for table top. Get this big smasher in middle ranges and slug it out, it's not a jugergnaught with epic one hit quit like ac20 packing mechs, it's a brawler, it's meant to stay and play all day. If you are in a prolonged campaign Expendables aren't an issue as long as you don't leave it behind as salvage. Run out of ammo and you don't lose much on your damage curve and you increase survivability by having a crit sink in the torso that won't cost a ppc as well. In fact I start shooting SRM every round I can even long shots and will dump the ammo if it's looking iffy. Then back to smashing. This mech has little real weakness, long game, short range, armor, mech, battle armor and infanty can all be dealt with. Speed is on par with most of the 50+ ton mechs. Jump jets would be it's only short fall but can't win it all. This icon is really what they mean when they say mechs rule the battlefield undesputed in the 31st century. Thanks again, GDN, I hope to get one of the non project Phoenix resculpts in the near future. I want to see what comes next in this series.

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

Thanks for the sharing of the story. I'm not that familiar with the Project Pheonix resculpts, as I get most of the pictures from Sarna, the internet as a whole and the MWO game. Also, the next mech will be the Raven.

[@dubuyajay9964]

Part of my favorite pairing. Warhammer and Archer.

[@paulhuston9991]

Yeah they go well together indeed. I like a Warhammer with a battle master buddy, an idf like Archer or catapult or longbow, and a machine that moves like quickdraw, or exterminator. Thump and bump, with a pair of sluggers and a skirmisher is tough nut to crack when played mutually supporting

[@Rahmanulordamau6000]

The warhammer mech is on its way

[@MOrab46019]

I do hope you will go down the pilot lore line. Thank you.

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

I'll get there someday :)

[@pbr-streetgang]

Thanks for the vid sir.

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

You're welcome, good sir.

[@timmytheimpaler1750]

My Warhammer just carried my game

[@benlaskowski357]

The MadCat's only equal.

[@floridaman3823]

WARHAMMER 2 C COMES!

[@salahal-din7564]

Hahaha, I've 10 Warhammer in my MWO account, 3 off them just to play with stock builds. My best mech choice, Marauder my 2dn

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

That's a lot of Warhammers.

[@aidanthornton173]

How does the mech feed ammo into the arm cannons? Is there some sort of system that carries the rounds from the torso, down the arms into the weapons?

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

Something similar. I never looked into such mechanics. Not sure if there's lore on it but it could be an interesting topic someday.

[@jamesricker3997]

Those aren't arm cannons Those are PPCs particle projection cannons an energy weapon

[@l.everetttalbottjr.275]

Jacked one of these babies from a unfortunate Black Inferno pilot!

[@RakkasanRakkasan]

Talos 4

[@thegreatbamboozler4837]

Back in ye olden days the Warhammer was the 'mech that put hair on your lip, even if you were a guy!!!!

[@matthewvillarde5601]

is it just me or is it a modified tomahawk destroid from macross?

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

Can't say I'm that familiar with that franchise.

[@certanmike]

The 2 IPs were both sold the same art

[@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723]

Ah yes the mech that started it all, the greatest one of them, no joke here, we all love it and want one, be it in-game, toy, board game piece or card, we do, it was on the cover of the books, game manual and gaming magazines, Get one slap 2 Extended Range Particle Projector Cannon or 2 Extended Range Large Laser on each hand separately, 4 or 2 light lasers and or 2 medium lasers for the chest, or 1 heavy Mg and HE missile rounds and I can wreck even an Atlas, yes I once took on and lived to tell the tale boys and girls! BUUUUUT the Clan just had to something heretical to my boy! NEVER FORGIVE NOR FORGET, UNITED UNDER THE BANNER OF THE STARS! But for real I have a very hard time trying to play the online game in mine each and single every time, when I am minding my own business, some light mech rocket jumps in front of me and I just end up shooting them and get flagged for team killing!

[@RakkasanRakkasan]

My first mech still love it . I tried killing that b**** kerinsky on talks iv in the drakonis combine with a variation of the AS 7 atlas that I moded over to the warmaster class but she managed to get away.

[@floridaman3823]

14 DAYS!

[@dubuyajay9964]

Until what?

[@floridaman3823]

@@dubuyajay9964 UNTIL THE WARHAMMER IIC DRRRRRROPS!!!

[@dubuyajay9964]

@@floridaman3823 Drops where?

[@floridaman3823]

@@dubuyajay9964 DROPS ON THE MWO SERVERS! ALL PRAISES TO THE OMNISSIAH!!

[@scotteverroad4545]

GDN? I'd Patreon you man, but says I already have a Patreon. Patreon says I do NOT have any Pledgs'!!! Yeah. Loue Ya Bro!!!

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

Have you tried logging into patreon first ? that happens to me too before i realised it.

[@vegarskaugen6881]

Warhammer cost 6,070,984 C-bills

[@aragos32727]

I'm sorry man. I've tried so hard. I love the fact that you're delving so deep into the lure but I can't handle listening to you. It's really hard. I know you're trying and I give you a lot of respect for trying. Keep it up

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

No worries. I'm sorry as well.

[@Mr.Mosquito89]

I'll give you 40$ to go over the KGC family, boss.

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

You're serious about that? I can do a video about the King Crab. What others are in its family?

[@Mr.Mosquito89]

@@GrimDarkNarrator Well, there's the King Crab (Designate KGC-XXX), the Crab (Similar design, made by the same company; could be argued it's a precursor to the KGC, designate CRB-XX), and the Clan-tech Supernova, a stripped down 2nd line made from KGCs they couldn't maintain. If you're covering BattleTech, I'd appreciate seeing my favorite city-killer get some love.

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

@@Mr.Mosquito89 For that donation, you can consider those Mechs covered. It'll only be next week that you get to see the crab or king crab though.

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

Delivered the Crab yesterday and King Crab coming next week. Hope that donation is still a thing :)

[@Mr.Mosquito89]

@@GrimDarkNarrator You got a paypal or sommat like? Patreon doesn't have one-off payment options, and I don't back out of my debts so easy.

[@bf4_gamer952]

why did you still unseen imagery, when you could have used either MWO stills or Reseen imagery for the designs used before Project Phoenix? Its far better to help distance the IP from Macross designs BY NOT USING macross designs as part of your series (the only flaw I see, for the record)

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

You know of any repository of such artwork that i could use? The stuff i use is from Sarna and maybe some pictures of minis off the internet. I've also started using MWO pictures for some variants.

[@mongo1137]

You sound like you’re a trade federation guy

[@GrimDarkNarrator]

I wish. I'd be rich too, if that were the case.