Battling the PRO1 Drivers in my LS3 Miata! (things went very wrong...)

[@WhipsawWillys]

You need three cars. 1) Pro2 spec vette. 2) Miata Party Car/Demo Car. Perfect for grid life, king of OSW and freedom factory 3) FC Missile car for random tandems at the compound, and other sketchy drift trips

[@snoisulli]

4) Cefiro drift week/street car

[@shanemayers777]

Little secret here: The list of cars you need never ends. There is always one more.

[@tyrelthibault5264]

Pro charged Corvette

[@MilklnTheFridge]

@@shanemayers777 hahaha have a look at Adam car show LZ

[@devinbuchhorn]

You are still swinging with the big boys. Just build the Pro 2 Corvette already 💪

[@josemoreno708]

Exactly what I was thinking man !

[@beepboop1859]

or put a supercharger/nitrous kit... TRAY has the skill, but his car lacks against 600+HP... IM ON YOUR SIDE TRAY! Keep persevering!!! Dank merch as well!

[@k1r4ns]

@@beepboop1859 but it's still a Miata, an c6 will handle high power

[@beepboop1859]

@@k1r4ns no doubt, but if hes going for a budget... yeah... if hes going to shoot with the pros... wider car is muchhhhhhhhhhhh better

[@chrisbmx68]

He should sell the fc, keep the miata and build the vette

[@fugserght]

Vette will build up your channel, but keep the miata anyway for special events like FF and just to mix it up

[@Matt_Lanzer_13]

THIS!!

[@Ryan_Sauer]

Thats a really good explanation. Just to give Taylor some perspective - Im here cause in 2018 i bought and built a miata for drifting. Taylor had amazing videos of what my miata eventually could be (and otherwise just great content car wise). But I found the channel through the miata. A vette is a much more astounding name. It might be a great in for people. That said personally, I would hate to see the miata lose the main drift car title. But if it was me, the subframe thing would be a deal breaker. Not being able to run a competition cause of hardware is simply the worst way to ever lose a comp. Im not even that big a fan of corvettes. Not a huge fan of cletus's for the matter. I just dont think they look very attractive/dont look very fun to work on. But if its what the channel needs im here for it. P.s. I am new to the scene and dont know tooo much about cars, so if you make a video explaining why a corvette would be your next build over other cars it would be great content :D

[@andrewkelly3702]

@@Ryan_Sauer make this a actually comment so Tray sees this because what you said is really good

[@Ryan_Sauer]

@@andrewkelly3702 Done. Sorry tay if you end up reading it twice

[@Matt_Lanzer_13]

@@Ryan_Sauer the looks of vettes are definitely a personal issue with some, but they’re not bad to work on at all and are probably the best chassis to use atm because they require so little work to be incredibly competitive. Hell Taylor knows this and was one of the first people to start promoting it. That’s why he said he’s gonna go get another vette when he builds a pro car

[@emersonnogueira127]

Dude our battle in the top 64 was amazing! Had a blast driving with you and hopefully we can drive soon again when I learn the car a bit more.

[@michaelharper4014]

It looked like he was going off either way imo..

[@alleybuilds5370]

hard to tell, it's a shame he touched and got the call. its just a learning curve.

[@tyrelthibault5264]

Agreed there wasn’t even a dent in Hulls door. Just a little rubber transfer!

[@alleybuilds5370]

@@tyrelthibault5264 rules are rules as much as i don't like them

[@tyrelthibault5264]

Alley Builds Ya I agree 💯 The rules are clear that if the chase driver makes contact and the lead driver goes off, the chase driver is at fault. Even if the contact didn’t directly cause him to go off, it makes the chase driver at fault unfortunately, kinda a weird

[@r4ng3k03r1]

He was cuz how fast he was going to try to keep a gap between him and Taylor. If you watch the slow motion you see it doesn't even look like he touched him but Taylor said he did touch him so it had to be like a millisecond of contact cuz it doesn't even show it on the drone footage

[@Matt-Wynn]

Hey Taylor, i personally think you should keep the miata the way it is, Its honestly sick as hell but, definetly build a corvette for kill mode. You will dominate comps with it the way you drive!

[@TiCrissDeNain]

Sad that Ben spun out after the finish, his follow was just insane and he would have won hands down

[@drewshepard8002]

His follow was TIGHT

[@wobblysauce]

That it was, Ben was rippn.

[@behradsays]

Walkie: You gotta go kill mode Taylor: bet *runs Hull off the track* 😂 (bad call, you didn't hit him nearly hard enough to cause that..)

[@4theloveofDub]

I agree. I also don't think hall ran off intentional to make the hit look worse. I think hall just knew Taylor was going to bring it and made a mistake while on kill himself. If taylor never touched him Hall would have still gone off and Taylor would have moved on

[@Skreamies]

@@4theloveofDub Hull did it on purpose, he just did this exact same thing in FD this past weekend

[@liveandletdie138]

@@Skreamies I'm sorry but that's stupid, imagine the split second decision he had to make after the contact was made. he dropped a tire on the dirt the millisecond the Miata touched him and contact was so light I doubt he even noticed in that time frame, the amount of things that had to go right for this to work would make it an extremely stupid plan to begin. whether the Miata caused the off is the real issue and in any case he should have never made contact in the first place.

[@Phil60084]

Ben's follow run was mental! Great job Ben! Too bad he spun in the lead!

[@Eli-ko9cg]

he really killed that lead run

[@Phil60084]

@@theunibodywheeler8721 They might change it next year. They committed to keeping the rules the same for the first year. There's already a lot of talk about rules that will change for 2021. Sick series!

[@tyrelthibault5264]

The Unibody Wheeler contact would happen all the time otherwise. Plus lead drivers would spin at the end to get maximum angle scores

[@Phil60084]

@@tyrelthibault5264 you're probably right.

[@tyrelthibault5264]

Phill Schneider Ben deserved the win but messed up

[@AnthonyBowman]

100% Hull straightened out and broke the line before the tap. Bad call.

[@Nate28752]

Unfortunately Klutch Kickers is a little biased toward big teams. Taylor got shafted a while back at one of their events competing against one of the drift HQ cars.

[@Skreamies]

He just did it again this weekend in FD, the guy is a clown

[@SuprSi]

@@Skreamies Aaaaand again at Clutchkickers with Adam, he really does deserve his "wrecking ball" reputation.

[@ihatecops.]

they shouldn’t even let that guy compete anymore

[@dakotaharbert935]

I'm loving the pedal view

[@porschuhdude]

Convert the Miata to a “street drifting” / “weekend car” with windows and such. And build a full race car

[@fiisho]

Money

[@toddbrown4185]

Cifero is the street car. Miata is already a full race car.

[@alexpeterson946]

Rewatched your battle with T Hull after watching the last round of FD. Sucks to see anyone lose out the way you and Hughes did.

[@dakotaharbert935]

Dude, He sent it off. 100% Im glad your car is still solid.

[@ImaDjentleman]

After seeing the battle from inside trays car he was robbed!!!

[@Hedgehog7999]

Agreed. Holt was going off without the door tap

[@rdbmx1250]

man not just the clip think of the weight difference between those 2 cars. those judges are dumb to think a miata would cause a caddie to fly off the track that hard when there in such close proximity.

[@wheeln24-79]

Think they let holt move on cuz he was leading the series.

[@brantknapp3903]

Agreed 100%

[@andrewchao9164]

@@Hedgehog7999 yeah but it's kinda just a technicality cause ray did touch hull so even if hull went off by himself, because of the touch ray gets screwed

[@Jeep-fq4bh]

That was definitely a Bad call. You didn’t hit him hard enough to do that

[@aflea8272]

i agree but what caused it is he didnt give enough room for his ass end to swing around and caused the hit that way. basically straightened tayler haul out to go in the grass.

[@redlinesteez9630]

@@aflea8272 haul went straight because he dirt dropped and played it off like he was pushed

[@tyrelthibault5264]

Yep 💯

[@alexdownard1948]

@@aflea8272 it wasn’t even time for him to transition, he straightened out too soon because his back tire hit the dirt.

[@Djghost454]

Watched this happen live, but couldn't see the contact because of the White picket fence around a bush in the middle of the track. Seeing it from these angles, I don't like that call. Either way though, great driving, and I love having these events so close to where I live. And I'd build the Vette if I were you.

[@HashTagDan1]

Hey Taylor man i just wanted to say regardless of who won or who was at fault for that your driving was sick. Plus now you get to say you tapped his door in a comp which is an achievement not many non FD pro drivers can claim. If i can ever afford to get into drifting or car building in general I can say youre definitely my inspiration

[@dr.dodrugs8963]

Glad to see you’re helpful and supportive of the guys still learning consistency. You’re a solid dude! Edit: that’s all Hull, that little door tap ain’t pushing him off. You can see his line literally leading him off the track and he also straightened before the finish line (obviously from him dropping a wheel)

[@Ryan_Sauer]

Build the vette

[@XxmillerniaxX]

Looked like an intentional off but...Go full send on a corvette, you have the legs to compete with the big boys.

[@nickk4857]

Hull definitely threw himself off the track too secure the W after he felt your door tap..

[@theglitch_713]

I love that FKC (foot kickin cam) you got going on the corner of the screen. Educational if you ask me!! Lol

[@calebmcclary4517]

Hell no, that wasn’t your fault. He was going off the track either way, then he just snapped the car back to fast into you.

[@kings_nemesis5995]

It more looked like he himself threw his car off but I doubt the judges will take that into consideration

[@tyrelthibault5264]

Agreed

[@Mulletmans]

No he hit his back tire with his front tire hard u can see it right before he goes off and u can see the car get pushed in the drone video. He snapped the car back after Taylor hit him and pushed him off track and that mad his car snap back like that

[@kings_nemesis5995]

@@Mulletmans Taylor did a small tap on his door then he straightened causing his rear to smack into Taylor and then he went off track

[@Mulletmans]

@@kings_nemesis5995 no watch the drone he gets hit by the tire win Taylor's in his smoke and get pushed off his line and when he goes one tire off because of it he let off and it made him straighten out after the first hit

[@jarrodomahony6335]

Keep it up man, I love your vids and your honesty. It's refreshing bro!!

[@TheJordan233]

Wisest words ever said. “You gotta go kill mode” 💯

[@jeremynunez3300]

Hey Taylor, just wanted to say you did a damn good run on that last one. You had the crowd going nuts and I know because I was there with them. Really is a shame they gave hull the win. Good job man

[@pedalman4595]

Ok now a whole other level of RESPECT!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am amazed at the foot work it takes to drift as well as you do. A pure MASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@wes5440]

Build a vette.. would love too see it on ur channel! keep it up bud love what u do ur my favorite drifter/KZbinr 😎👌👍

[@legndofcorey]

bro you did amazing this weekend!! it was such a treat to see you drift in person and meet you, you were nothing but cool!! definitely one of my all time favorite drifters/youtubers👍🏾

[@curtisreadance3212]

Go with the vette! Thank you so much for bringing us along during this series. I love the competitiveness of the series and the dog fights. Great video. Thanks Taylor.

[@mr_bres]

You killed it Taylor, regardless of the outcome you put in work and it shows! cant wait to see what you do for Pro2.

[@Rick-4552]

The view of your shoes working the pedals is cool

[@brandonpayne1207]

Taylor Ray going door to door with pro driver and holds his own. It looked like he was going off anyways but you are good sport.

[@cameronludwig5285]

I feel that his car was already gonna drop a tire. U didnt smash him, just left tire mark. I feel Taylor's tire hit hit a pretty big rut, causing the car to do that. But hey what can u do. Great driving to you all! I love watching u guys compete in this series.

[@jakelovescinema]

theres a distinct gap between when you touch his door and when he flicks it to the left into the grass. His car wasn't shaken by the tap but maybe it scared him?

[@victor440_]

I'm sure whatever you decide to do we will all be there for you and watching these videos thank you for the content.

[@Carnerd101]

Sounds like you're growing out of your maita. I think it's time to start that Vette build my friend.

[@jamesmay6674]

Man I cannot wait until you are more competitive with these rich fullas. You're hands down one of the best, awesome stuff man.

[@joewoodard2513]

Naw don't go Vette... can you do a full tube chassis like a ProMod... it'll make for great content and winning in your hand built car will be way more satisfying than some vette with bolt ons and a few fab part's. You can always use the abandoned FC till your Miatas done.

[@JosephSamsor]

As cool as the Miata is, I want to see you dominating competitions. That Cadillac would have been an easy kill in a sequential c5.

[@parkourbreakin1369]

Whatever the future will be, I just I see u shred the Miata more often than Adam shreds his cream s13. It brings so much inspiration!!

[@ricoraxelhd]

Man I love your content, watching a guy build his car start to finish (which i enjoy in itself) and then go be a huge headache for pro drivers in pro cars is absolutely awesome. As far as what to do for next season i can see why it is such a tough call. Now idk how useful the opinion of someone like me would be, but maybe having 2 track only cars is not such a bad idea. Since the vette would be a pro2 level car basically it would be too fast or expensive to bring to more chill events, and that's where the miata would come into play ( so i guess you would get rid of the fc then?). Whatever you decide to do I'm confident it will be awesome and we will be supporting you along the way. Keep em coming buddy!

[@majorvenom1012]

Your doing great Taylor! Time to take the next level! You've got this!

[@arek9851]

Finally talks about moving to pro2 and getting a different chasy. Good job Taylor.

[@Hedgehog7999]

Keep your head up man! You did some amazing driving, and now you know doortaps can easily get penalized. Can't wait for your Pro2(?) build!

[@pimnmike]

I like the pedal cam. I never knew how much precise movement goes into it.

[@msrags2145]

Pro 2 Vette!!! Or whatever you want to do man, the content is killer and I have learned a lot from watching your videos, You have inspired me to keep pushing towards my goals and go out of my comfort zone in learning new things. Keep up the awesome work, hope your life continues to be great and the house search goes well!

[@smokeymcdrifts5442]

You have an entire off season to get that Vette built. You have been talking about it for a while now and I think it's the perfect time to start. The Miata is a bad ass proven car, but just imagine good you can build that Vette with your new skills and knowledge of fabrication ect. Best of luck bro we will still watch you no matter what

[@mitchellstepan7215]

That follow from Ben was solid! Granted he had nothing to lose but solid run for Ben!

[@taylormoyer1150]

Taylor, as a guy who's been following from basically the start of your channel I believe you have outgrown the miata in a competitive mind set. Think its a great practice car because of how short the wheel base is you learned car control in a faster steering car vs a s13-15. I think its time for you to build a pro2/pro1 capable car to be on the top like you should

[@brantknapp3903]

I'm in love with the foot cam haha, it's like your dancing on them pedals man keep up the content by far best channel on KZbin in my opinion 💯

[@gregdavison669]

Vette, would love to see you in pro 2. You got what it takes buddy, I love watching you compete!!

[@domostdrfz8200]

Leeeeetttssss goooooooo!!!!!!! Taylor I don’t care what anyone says, you’re slayinnnnn itt!!!! You were so fricken close on the last run and that guy definitely was over dramatic. Glad to see your driving style get better and better every time I watch your drift event videos! Keep up the good work and keep bein a rad dude

[@Jake_IBS]

Just the interior audio alone is amazing

[@soundsfromsaturdayevening7283]

That was a good battle. You're a really good driver. Some people can't handle a little love tap.

[@spudzooka]

Just like when cleeter finally said he was done pursuing deep 7s with leroy because it was killing the car, the Miata is fun to watch and reliable. Don't ruin it pushing it too far. Love the channel, do what feels right.

[@danboling7091]

Taylor, the Vette is too common...You should do something unique for the channel and build a pro2/pro1 spec Holden Ute! You are already familiar with the LS, and could collab with Jeremy from Fasterproms to tune a supercharged LS to the 1k+ hp mark. It’s perfect for you, and would be cool for your channel to see something different!

[@Coledini]

Just here to say I love the footcam gotta watch twice one to keep an eye on the action the other to watch the footwork 🔥

[@iNegroTv]

You did a great job man. A proper wheelman

[@CMgraffix]

I enjoyed the last battle were all is out and needs to happen to the safe easy ones, hard luck Taylor

[@winnyxway]

Time to build a pro2 car... Hope you keep the miata :D

[@rbshed2208]

Half way though go Ben!! As I see that I can understand the confidence build. And you should be more often Taylor Ray 🤘

[@rbshed2208]

After watching bad sportsmanship on his behalf not yours

[@IDlikeanEvo]

Mannn with your style of driving and what we know you can do.. Also I used to loveee see you killed it with the Driftvette man ! So I think if you take your time for a proper comp driftvette it will be killer !!! Anyway awesome job at KlutchKicker I loved every round 🔥

[@Crispy1320]

It is a hard choice I love the Miata but let's be honest the Corvette is just a better drift car and the whole point of doing anything it's the look to the Future constantly improving I think that kind of answers your question time to get Donnie's crazy uncle Danny and get a Corvette

[@Starshipstoner]

Everyones saying do a vette build. I'd bet good money Taylor has a pretty good plan for what hes gona do. I've been a long time sub and I can say. this man always has a plan. I would bet he either has something in the works or has been working on something off screen for this season's events.

[@Dylan_Miller]

Taylor the Miata is perfect where it’s at and I think it’s a great seat time car. I would leave the Miata as is and build your Vette. Your an amazing driver and you owe it to yourself to put yourself behind a monster of a car.

[@HalfTacked-Creations]

Not sure on the rules for car builds in pro 2, but could you tub out the rear of the miata like the drag guys to be able to run a bigger tire in the rear?

[@higherthoughts7443]

Time to make the investment to further your career, really enjoy watching your journey Taylor and I'm excited to see what your skills as a driver would do with a purpose built rig and give the pro 2 drivers a good reality check. Awesome job man always pulling for you.

[@911fidzfolks]

You did a very good job..I watched the completion rd5 videos (only to see u competing with strong drivers)...N ur driving style is really competitive driving... Taylor Hull is very strong with his pro car, i think if u battle with some else instead u will reach till top 4 minimum... Also Taylor Ray is a big name in klutch kickers series... Am so happy that the MIATA is still one piece :D . Fadi from Jordan

[@littlekencil7233]

Im drifting because your vid you inspire me to drift its almost a year now for me to drift and couple things i learnd people who know how to lead its so much eazyer to fallow

[@tracybudesa7263]

Please build the vett I would love to see you really take things to the next level

[@thdjnr]

I am now looking forward to a vette build! Am I the only one? Love these competition vids, but I really love T-rays build vids too! 😂😂

[@drummerboyrock33]

Wow contact on transition is brutal! Especially when the other car is all tubes.

[@twinstealth]

I would say definitely do a pro 2/1 vette and keep Thales miata for most stuff and use the vette for the big boy stuff! You definitely have the talent to keep up with these guys since you are already doing it in an underpowered, a lot less grip car!

[@jevandaniels2423]

You did amazing so happy you can stay calm about driving against someone of the best driver's! HIP HIP keep it up

[@calebthezombie8457]

Hull totally did the same thing at Irwindale haha what a joke

[@LiNK-66]

Wut a treat!!! So awesome!!! Keep up the sick content!

[@alterexistence483]

Build the vette Taylor!! The Miata is sick but your skills have out grown it and you can always drive the Miata at grass root events.

[@gtfkt]

He pulled a classic soccer after-effect "omg he touched me...wait I can take advantage of this... BOOM look I almost died" move. Childish.

[@Minitrucks_and_motorcycles]

I really hope you can get to pro 2! Good luck!!!!!

[@cham0nja92]

Nankang just come out with the 275 15 in 100tw tire might be worth a shot. Killer driving and videos !!👍🏻

[@skoomd4447]

You explaining how competition drivers will try to mess you up is the reason I never really wanna do comp drifting. Grassroots with buddies is 10x more fun and you can tap doors all day

[@vickG123]

Super charge miata and some toe in .. keep developing miata !

[@mtnshenanigans]

Building a Vette has my vote it just allows for more growth in the long run where the Miata is close to its max potential and in my opinion has diminishing returns from this point on either way I love watching your videos and seeing you compete so you have my support in any direction you choose

[@ChuckThree]

+1 for comprehensive C6 Vette Pro2 build 👍 Outside of Matt Field’s no expense spared Kevlar panel FD car, there isn’t comprehensive KZbin build on a drift/lightweight C6.

[@imthefunnyone5448]

Yes the vette, your really good and I think you would do great in pro 2.

[@tylerq5672]

His spotter radioed him and said you tapped him then he ran it off track to get the W. Great job

[@tjgreen4417]

Taylor my vote would be go all in on another Vette,& Turbo or procharger it. I hate seeing the level of competition you have to go against, knowing they got you by alot in HP & they got you in grip department as well. Your to good to be handicapped by equipment. Do what makes you happy in the end, this is just my 2cents. Love the videos brother, you truly are a real one!

[@kxdirtjumper]

Watching your subs, getting close to 500k. Should probably go for that next level and build a pro 2 style car. Either way great stuff and I think he went off. It was almost simultaneous him hitting the grass and you barely tapping the door

[@JeffSlover]

What about adding a power-adder? Putting a smaller turbo on it to give you more power, but not so big that it is laggy if it spools down? I think if you could add 40-50 more HP it could help. Gripping up the rear end would help with the chase, and adding more smoke too so that would be a good option as well.

[@Teysik]

Love the pedal cam

[@kingdougie80]

I really like the roof camera view. It’s a like better then the cab view..

[@Hedgehog7999]

Jeez that was a brutal battle!

[@devinhintergardt5226]

Your awesome TRay, keep the amazing videos

[@damienvandemark3522]

While your still driving the Miata you should boost it. It would deff help you gain the speed you need, something that will spin up quick for a instant response. Keep up the good work!!

[@TheDramethis]

Man I love how you talk to your viewrs like we are the crew chief. Reminds me of days of thunder lol

[@jasonpetrich4141]

What ever angle kit that caddy is running is crazy wide jeeeeeezusssss the car is completely sideways and crazy stable, very cool!

[@GSMMW]

Thank you Taylor!

[@ImaDjentleman]

6:45 that bov 😍😝

[@luizfilipe2249]

its actually the gear

[@ImaDjentleman]

@@luizfilipe2249 it’s supposed to be a joke lol

[@luizfilipe2249]

@@ImaDjentleman sorry !