BBC 1980s Submarine documentary Part2 Ocean Safari

[@aikimechanic]

Thanks for posting a documentary that is actually interesting. I grew up and stuff like this. Much better than modern outputs.

[@sosayweall7290]

Commander Cooke looks like the kind of guy I'd serve with. Intelligent, self aware, knows his job and keeps the necessary distance from his subordinates. The submarine achieves its mission, but he's not solely responsible. He's built a strong team to achieve objectives. When he talks about dipping below the layer you can see his concentration and assessing his team very intently. He has a look about him that I wouldn't mess with.

[@robwilton9539]

I remember Ocean Safari as being extremely hard work. 820 Squadron Fleet Air Arm, Mk5 Seaking helicopters with dipping sonar, embarked on HMS Illustrious. The sonar 195M always came back unserviceable after being dipped and had to be changed. There were two ways to get the sonar submersible unit out of the aircraft: jack the aircraft up and take it out through the hull or manually lift it out through the cabin. The first method was very time consuming and the second took a lot of muscle as they were so heavy. We favoured the muscle method but luckily we had a field gunner who could almost lift it out on his own. Well done Baz! With all this hard work and long watches we needed sustenance but were fed pretty poorly. At breakfast we could have 2 sausages or two rashers of bacon or one of each, for instance. This was very unusual for an RN ship. Years later, I heard that the chief caterer had been busted and booted out for embezzlement of the food budget!

[@elliottg.1954]

Compared to gems like these, modern TV with its the celeb 'lookatme' and drama queens is total balls. Love these old documentaries when they covered military ops including Royal Marines selection and the British Army. Very few melts around then.

[@LA-pu8pc]

00oooo.

[@johanboes1]

Very true....

[@paulgerard8859]

I served 9 years on submarine Warspite with 4 different captains. A stunning period in my life

[@tba8241]

Was Roger Lane-Knott in command at all?

[@zabdas83]

Write the book mate. Peeps like me and 10000s others are hungry for Sub war stories...

[@Wettonbunker]

The commander is an absolute legend. His kill rate is massive in the exercise and he remains unseen. Also, the way he says Fire😂😂 its like "FYAAAR" yet with a hint of a silent I and a silent H. Might be able to place the I in between the F&Y but can't make my mind up where to place the H. Probably 2 or 3 silent H's come to think of it!

[@kevg3320]

The guy chatting at min 20:00 was Harry L. He was my 'sea-dad' when I joined my 1st boat in '89. He was a CPO then and I a lowly oxygen thief (ie unqualified), scared the shit out of me, but once you knew him absolutely TOP BLOKE!! (If you ever see this Harry, I remember you telling an embarrassing story about you receiving a medical examination involving the Doctor's finger!!! Take care shipwreck!!)

[@Biggles2498]

Kev G : Prostate examination ?

[@seltaeb9691]

or maybe a sausage had gone missing..

[@TeddyBear-ii4yc]

@@Biggles2498 Nah... the Doctor had an evil sense of humour. 🙂

[@vestfonn4288]

@@Biggles2498 I had to have a prostate exam a few weeks back and the doc told me it’s the last thing he wants to do on a Friday afternoon as he was putting his sterile gloves on - I said you could look at it from my point of view having a total stranger shoving his finger up my bum on a Friday afternoon!

[@protonneutron9046]

Excellent. Back when we watched the BBC in the USA. When we could get a local station to pay for the content.

[@andyachilleos5013silvereagle]

Back in the day when TV license was worth paying for

[@RTD553]

It's not diverse enough Andy :)

[@walboyfredo6025]

@@RTD553 I prefer this then Love Island or Big Brother!

[@Justforfun-wq7mr]

Haha

[@Justforfun-wq7mr]

@@RTD553 you got jokes 🤣

[@roderickmaclean2050]

Couldn't agree more , ex HMS Eagle scribes !

[@daveid6244]

It's a shame you don't get docoes like this anymore All we get is reality cooking shows dancing with stars got a lot more channels but nothing worth watching Reamber Best of Britton shows top gear programs about steam power stuff a lot off guys love to watch

[@SimonWallwork]

Watched all three. Super stuff. Why don't we get programmes like this in 2024?

[@RickDeckard6531]

Very, very good episode. Very professional.

[@RTD553]

For those who are not upper-class English, 'Faar' means 'Fire.' Interestingly, it is a command never used on surface ships, because it can be confused with there being a fire on board. The equivalent command on RN surface ships is always 'Shoot.'

[@music4ever1981]

US Submariner here, and the only time "fire" is used in submarines, is when there is, in fact, an actual fire or during a simulated fire drill. Not for launching torpedoes or anything else. The correct term is "shoot."

[@fishernz]

@@music4ever1981 - Not in the Royal Navy. Evidently.

[@BeKindToBirds]

​@@fishernzThe military of the United States is strictly no-fun allowed. Long and old tradition that's set us apart from the start. Absolutely. No. Fun., Try hard to the max. Just look at our K/D ratio. Absolutely ridiculous.

[@pznili]

captain Jonathan cooke sneaked under soviet air carrier Kiev to record its acoustic signature. a hell of a sailor and of a man!

[@hantykje3005]

It was Swifsure who did the Kiev ops.

[@sabercruiser.7053]

Outstanding job they did. Much Greatful for the upload 🙏🤲👍👍🙌🙌🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@trishave5639]

The last time I watch this was in the 80's. Thank you for uploading.

[@elliottg.1954]

It seems that Jonathon Cooke - a navigation specialist inter alia - had a long and distinguished career in the British navy, over nearly 35 years. Also apparently he served as British naval attaché in Paris, before an appointment in the Ministry of Defence.

[@biddyboy1570]

Submariners are a funny bunch. I've served with them but not in this setting. I'm glad they do what they do. Respect to them as I don't think I could do that.

[@georgemalkin6546]

When you get drafted you can

[@gibsondrummer]

Its nice the name HMS Warspite continues on Its a tragedy that the Warspite herself was not preserved as museum ship in celebration of the veteran sailors who served on her and for the people of Great Britain 🇬🇧

[@Anglo_Saxon1]

I'm pretty sure that that there was at least 2 massive salvage attempts which were the most expensive in British history at the time(50's I think). However,sadly it wasn't to be.Instead,things were removed from the ship for displaying in museums etc. Fun fact; King George who was in possession of Warspites wheel,gave it to the King of Norway because of Warspites envolvment in the battle at Narvik.

[@Persian-Immortal]

she fought the British admiralty harder than the Germans.

[@TeddyBear-ii4yc]

After ww1 and the various Naval Treaties, historic or museum ships taken out of commission would still have had their tonnage counted towards that navies operational "fleet". At least that was the reason given for not saving any of those Edwardian super-dreadnoughts (HMS Lion comes to mind).

[@ScrotusXL]

Love this doc. John Nettles, in depth insight into the Royal Navy. Brilliant 👍😍

[@benthejrporter]

The chap from Midsomer Murders? I thought I knew that voice.

[@barryemery16]

John Nettles came down our submarine for drinks in Jersey when he was filming Bergerac, we were on a goodwill visit (aka Run Ashore)

[@benthejrporter]

@@barryemery16 Hope you all had fun. His mellow voice was perfect for that documentary.

[@Mickey9833]

A few beers on the submarine, nice one

[@tamar5261]

If this is the 83 ocean Safari exercise I was on a rnr minesweeper, managed a run ashore in bordoux

[@andrew1bradley]

Thx for uploads , really enjoyed

[@aramos3639]

Oh hey they ran into HMS Brazen, The Mighty Jingles youtuber served on that boat. I wonder if he was ther at the time, or if this was too early on

[@ukraine7249]

I stowed away on a submarine in the 80’s. I hid in the torpedo tube. Was great! Waited until the crew were asleep then helped myself to food etc.

[@cobbler40]

When I was in the RN it was divided into General Service, FAA and submarines completely separate.

[@walboyfredo6025]

35:33 Wow very rare for officers to mess with Senior Ratings. I bet that Senior Rating at 21:51 ended up as an Officer , quite articulate.

[@Biggles2498]

Walboy Fredo : I agree he sounds like a Fighter Pilot Instructor deciding the fate of a failed trainee on what to do next !

[@seltaeb3302]

If you can spell articulate in the navy you're an officer!

[@walboyfredo6025]

@@Biggles2498 Yes, Numerous individuals who had to do their NS, were selected for officer development just on how they "carry themselves" and speak with a "clear articulated manner". I could picture the Commission selection board in the Admiralty would be impressed with this chap.

[@SimDeck]

I did 10 years in the British Army and had a great time. I know I shouldn't say this but I would have loved to have been in the Navy. Everything about it appeals to me.

[@seltaeb9691]

ex army, but I hankered after the RAF. You can actually change over whilst in service. But depends on trade & suitability if needed. Some swap over in the Commonwealth ie Aussie to GB.

[@walboyfredo6025]

Don't be ashamed Sam l know a number ex army who transferred to the RN. Some said that they had more opportunities to gain a commission then in the army.

[@catcherintheair]

I am suprised that they us the wording "fire" for launch. In the german Uboot service they always used the word "los" so it can never be confused with an actual fire in the boat.

[@donlaight5943]

That surprised me too, normally it's is "shoot"

[@aljack1979]

If there was a fire. Then it would be repeated 3 times with a general alarm.

[@ml9849]

That's why they use 'phuh' for fire.

[@biddyboy1570]

The British are at a 'loss' to understand.

[@chevellesipps4446]

P

[@klomax7750]

13:32 What is CEP that the Captain tells the guy to get a grip of? Also, why is the guy (the one being told) the only person wearing his white crew-neck wooly jumper?

[@davidelvin2436]

Contact evaluation plot

[@DarkpowderUK]

Very interesting, but inevitable that we would only see the "orange team" perspective, i.e. not seeing the anti-submarine role. For good reason, and in a very tense year 1983.

[@nosaltadded2530]

10 March 1983. I had enlisted but had to wait until June 16 to go to boot camp. USN.

[@Strong_UP_Calvins_zombie]

Fantastic

[@boots869]

You're a shaar, an absolute shaar!!!!

[@SunDodger]

Good to see the CSB flowing in the SR's mess

[@teecee1567]

The electronic music really dates this.

[@anthonyandersen2958]

My navy. In the day awesome.

[@JRJunior8624]

I was on Ocean Safari in 83, wonder if this is it..

[@adamjones2025]

29:35 Captain looks a bit pissed off lol.

[@jacobsparry8525]

WoW! They cand go uped from at 600 feet with thosed plastic/ vinyl hooder suits? THAT is pretty very impressived!! That is being as liked about of a FIFTY STORIES skys scraper!!

[@Anglo_Saxon1]

It's impressive considering its 40 yr old.

[@smogmeister]

MEM Kendall. My SPO on the Tireless. Used to change colour depending on the wine he was drinking like a chameleon. 😂 ( As in New London U.S).

[@Philip-ds3nx]

Good to see Donald MacDonald as a young Cpo ops sonar way before instructing in the Submarine School. good days

[@robwilton9539]

Foch was the second Clemenceau-class aircraft carrier that served with the French Navy - not a cruiser. Submariners just don't get out enough!

[@David-cm4ok]

“The frigates are turning, they’ve probably got a sniff”. 🇬🇧

[@sandrapatterson5061]

I'm sure Shug Wells is in this film known as Bomber Wells .

[@grahamkearnon6682]

Once the rattle is found the Jimmy announces "we will lash it", if there had been no camera filming the comment would have been " get an onk to fix this' . Public school Ruperts everywhere.

[@willbennett6166]

@7:07 The 'Foch' was a French aircraft carrier not a destroyer.

[@michaelmacleod]

French A Surrenderer

[@walboyfredo6025]

Strangely enough the "Foch" featured in the Submarine movie "Crimson Tide".

[@tonyaughney8945]

It's also pronounced as Fosh.

[@arandomtrip8082]

I like how he says it "fire"

[@Torahboy1]

I’ve mostly lost my public school accent nowadays. But it rears its head from time to time. ‘Fire’ is a word I shall go to my grave pronouncing as one syllable ‘faaar’. Try this as an exercise..... both must be pronounced as one syllable, rather than two: the first word is ‘shower’, pronounced “shaar” and the next is ‘towel’, pronounced “taaahl”. Hence.... “Paaas me my taaahl, I’m orf for a shaar”. To hear my grandmother pronounce “February in Australia” was a hoot! (Fe-broo-erry een Au-stray-Le-yaah)

[@Freebird67]

Served on warspite good boat

[@Mute_Nostril_Agony]

Surprised to see everyone drinking and smoking

[@seltaeb3302]

You were only allowed a can maybe 2 & back then everyone smoked, carefully.

[@krashd]

@@adamjones2025 What does that have to do with anything? You are confusing political correctness with health and safety...

[@hantykje3005]

@18:35: So unthinkable to say to day, and no Im not offended by those remarks about gays. That's one of the things that makes old tv-programs interesting because people's language and values were different from today. I wonder what the crew in this documentary are doing today.

[@sullybiker6520]

Imprisoned for wrongthink

[@radicalrodriguez5912]

their values were better. also, you probably could get away with saying those sorts of things today

[@Freebird67]

Served on warspite Watching this a thinking fuck I’m old now

[@hantykje3005]

@@Freebird67 When did you serve on Warspite? This video is as old as I am. Strange to think about too.

[@1977ajax]

Interesting that someone raises the matter of offence concerning something only a fool (or a trouble maker) would think offensive. _That_ is the political training people are subject to today, and far too few have the guts to reject that training.

[@gordonshaw5381]

With modern tech surely the periscope is now on a big screen instead. Of looking through the peephole?

[@krashd]

It is.

[@youtert]

Don't know about the Brits, but the latest American attack sub type, the Virginia class, does use electronic masts with digital cameras at the top instead of having an optical tube. In addition to the typical benefits of digital cameras, this also allows the masts to be smaller and less likely to be spotted. The Virginias are also the first American subs to use digital controls for basic operations such as steering the sub.

[@edwalker2169]

@@youtert the other benefit is you don't need to go to red lighting at night

[@reaper378]

Madman, madman, madman .... You've just killed your crew Commander well done ... Red Storm Rising expert here ... Oh and far 2 many hours on Aces of the Deep and Harpoon :D

[@SwitchTF2]

Are you toasted or something? What are you referring to?

[@reaper378]

@@SwitchTF2 Whatever you like hun ...

[@SwitchTF2]

@@reaper378 god damn colonial.

[@reaper378]

@@SwitchTF2 whatever :-) ... Muted ..

[@ScrotusXL]

Sorry sir standby to farrr?!! 🤣

[@Cláudio-t7t]

The best!!!

[@jslfcs6655]

12:04 Looks like a rather young fella.

[@hantykje3005]

@36:07 What does the captain mean when i speaks about not using Christian names? Swearing?

[@cjlemire294]

Christian names is Britspeak for first names.

[@grahamsandry9289]

There's no way anyone would get out.

[@finnstralian]

The English language does not contain the letters needed to spell how that CO says "fire".

[@Torahboy1]

Faaar!

[@finnstralian]

@@Torahboy1 I feel there's an "i" in there somewhere but I can't figure out where to place it.

[@walboyfredo6025]

Once upon a time in the Royal Navy, the order would be " Shoot" not "Fire".

[@finnstralian]

@@walboyfredo6025 They changed it so men like him could sound posh.

[@reaper378]

Guy in charge is just a bundle of laughs isnt he ?

[@towedarray7217]

Imagine having to let your sense-of-humor-deprived boss beat you at Risk while trapped in a basement?

[@Anglo_Saxon1]

Would you prefer it if he told a few jokes and put a bit of clown make up on.

[@reaper378]

@@Anglo_Saxon1 I was going to give you a nice sarcastic comment but we have have rubbed shoulders at Binbrook looking at your video list ……

[@Anglo_Saxon1]

@@reaper378 A specific video?

[@reaper378]

@@Anglo_Saxon1 that should have said maybe rubbed shoulders

[@vipertwenty249]

Watches the Tigerfish being loaded: Wouldn't a MK 8 be a better idea?

[@philiplettley]

1st lt walking in the mess with his cap on. Surprised he didn't have to buy the next round of drinks lol

[@davidlockwood9192]

He was on his Rounds so there in an official capacity rather than social. Doubt that Jimmy would buy a round for the junior rates mess in those conditions!

[@mudabudda]

Well seamen your charged with being pissed up in charge of a nuclear reactor. How do you plead.

[@philagethechef]

Guilty as charged and I'm pissed right now SIR!!!

[@Biggles2498]

The Officers sound like ex Public Schoolboys. ! I should know I was one.

[@philagethechef]

@Roy C Horton go to school with anyone famous or infamous?

[@Biggles2498]

@@philagethechef I was Adrian Brittain's Prefect in the Sixth Form but he didn't last long on television and was said to be gay but I never knew that. There was also a Sixth Former in my Class (6th form) who became a Captain(not a high rank I might add) through Sandhurst but I was informed he was kicked out when they found out he had been messing around with young boys at The Boarding Department at school that covered up where all the bullying went on as well as sexual gross misconduct. I was a Boarder too and I explained all this on another site on KZbin where young Boarders still suffer today and never married due to sexual misconduct.

[@philagethechef]

@@Biggles2498 wow

[@philagethechef]

@@Biggles2498 do you have a link to those vids about boarding schools?

[@Biggles2498]

@@philagethechef Look up Alex Renton Sexual Abuse in Boarding Schools but there are many videos similar on KZbin but it was the "norm" in the 70's. Even our own Parents wouldn't listen to it !

[@philipp7935]

no one else has the buzzing sound?

[@towedarray7217]

There’s a hiss/static, yes but you can turn treble down and it mostly goes away. Doesn’t work on headphones but it’s a really good documentary and worth dealing with the hiss.

[@steinelgaaen]

@@towedarray7217 on my phone?

[@teecee1567]

I wish they wouldn't say "it" when referring to a submarine (or a ship for that matter) the correct word to use is "she". And why is a ship called "she"? A ship is called a she because there is always a great deal of bustle around her; there is usually a gang of men about; she has a waist and stays; it takes a lot of paint to keep her good-looking; it is not the initial expense that breaks you, it is the upkeep; she can be all decked out; it takes an experienced man to handle her correctly; and without a man at the helm, she is absolutely uncontrollable. She shows her topsides, hides her bottom and, when coming into port, always heads for the buoys!

[@operatorjeffdeathstar7759]

Looks more like an endless cocktail party...

[@Hackett1066]

18.51 Eric Bristow😂

[@Biggles2498]

Does anybody know if a "Failed Captain" can come back on submarines as First Officer or XO ?

[@andyachilleos5013silvereagle]

A failed captain will never go on a submarine again

[@Biggles2498]

@@andyachilleos5013silvereagle Sounds a bit drastic as failed Airline Captains remain as Co-Pilots.

[@bgb6260]

@@Biggles2498 Airline Pilots are seldom tasked to command a nuclear capable attack vessel.

[@davidlockwood9192]

In the (British) Royal Navy, the 1st Lt / XO ( a Lt Cdr) has already passed the “Perisher” (Submarine Command Course), those who fail this course can never serve afloat in submarines again. They either serve in a shore based role or transfer to General Service (ie the surface fleet)

[@Biggles2498]

@@davidlockwood9192 Can they train on Rotary Wing as Pilots or Observers if young enough ?

[@seltaeb3302]

I'm ex Army but to you old sea dogs I am against having females in a Sub & even on ships come to that, but I think it's a different environment to a ship as a ship to an army base.

[@walboyfredo6025]

It was said that the divorce rate in the Royal Navy greatly increased since they let in women on board.

[@SwitchTF2]

@@walboyfredo6025 lol sure m8

[@pablofitzy]

@@walboyfredo6025 I’m not surprised in the slightest 😂

[@JamesWilson-gw2ij]

I mean obviously the captain can’t be trusted as he’s a left hander 😬

[@charleswhinney3008]

As a left hander I object to your statement !!!!!

[@internautabr]

You better not have a wife on the surface if you are a submariner

[@daffyduk77]

A great study of the English class system so notoriously institutionalised in the UK forces.

[@jacobsparry8525]

Quite, quite…INDEED!

[@nbp9891]

I was just thinking the same. The Officers sound so posh ... so upper class. Seems to be a real English 'thing'. I'm glad I'm Australian. We don't have a class system. Nobody could care less about a person's background here. Positions based on merit - not on where you grew up; where you went to school, or how wealthy and well-connected your family is.

[@edwalker2169]

@@nbp9891 It would be lovely if Australia was the utopoian meritocracy you claim, it clearly is not.

[@TheNorthDevonOrganist]

1240!

[@st1nk1n]

Far! Far! Far!

[@davidhorne8310]

WHY NOT INVENT A DRONE TORPEDO WHICH ACTS A ND SOUNDS LIKE THE SPECIFIC SUB AND USE IT AS DECOY TO FOOL THE ENEMY ! BUT CONTROLLED BY TH MOTHER SUB PATENT PENDING

[@mudabudda]

Don't know about submarines but shouting out orders and playing loud music can't be good for stealth ?

[@Highendaudio1]

Hahaha simulating an attack fcs

[@gordonshaw5381]

The problem with these submarines is there is no way to dispose of them once they have completed their service life.

[@gibsondrummer]

The reactor core and all parts exposed to radiation are removed All reusable equipment is re-purposed The strategic metals used to construct the pressure hull are then recycled They don’t throw away titanium alloys Its the Russians who leave them to rot and contaminate the obsolete arctic bases

[@krashd]

@@gibsondrummer If that is true then why are all of our previous nuclear subs tied together and rusting in ports around the UK?

[@jonathanbaird8109]

@@krashd Waiting to be disposed of, one would assume. All of our (the US) decommissioned nuclear vessels are scrapped with their reactor vessels stored at the Hanford Site.

[@gmf121266]

Silent and deadly... Like my farts.. Lol

[@Sciolist]

I wonder how many viewers realise that 90% of such documentaries are filmed at harbour submarine is not at sea at all.

[@TeddyBear-ii4yc]

Those sonars they use for depth or target acquisition... human divers dozens of miles away from warships complain of the noise so sea mammals... whales and the like, must be deafened! I don't think that is right.

[@clydecessna737]

They all need a haircut.

[@BuzzRain]

I was in Bombers for 17 years, at sea underwater for 3 to 4months at the end of my career. You aren't going to see any one so haircuts aren't needed. Plus the hair could get in to the filters of electronic equipment and cause over heating.

[@tonyaughney8945]

Foch is pronounced Fosh. It's very unprofessional and childish to use it for a silly laugh.

[@MichaelKng-fk5jk]

Interesting "me" or, "us"? Even though more relaxed that the surface fleet, there is still an arrogance that gives away the horrid attitude of the RN which, is still preferent today. There is a place for it, less as time paces

[@yogihaughton]

You gots to be white and middle class to be a submariner or sommat? I presume they have a smoking room now? I would never be in the mess with folk smoking like that in a confined area

[@Highendaudio1]

Hey, mate, they are all my mates and what it was like in those days. The Skipper Johnny is a great guy. Hard to think, a lot of those guys are no longer with US Happy days

[@2660016A]

It was 38 years ago. I imagine a few things have changed!

[@aljack1979]

It's 1983!!

[@adamjones2025]

@@aljack1979 I miss the old days.

[@krashd]

Smoking doesn't happen on subs any more, at least in the RN.