From a time when the BBC was the best in the world at almost everything they touched. What an excellent series.
@Hiram10002 ай бұрын
Including little kids. :)
@admiralcraddock4643 жыл бұрын
A shame the BBC doesn't make programmes like this now instead of endless reality ones about chefs getting upset about a lumpy gravy or people in hi viz waistcoats mincing about airports getting stressed over a flooded toilet.
@crabbyj3 жыл бұрын
My God...these were my exact thoughts watching a cooking competition this past week! I agree 100%!!!
@ldv14523 жыл бұрын
The BBC is dead!
@iggysfriend44313 жыл бұрын
This isn't woke enough for the BBC anymore.
@RTD5533 жыл бұрын
All too macho, and not 'inclusive' enough for the BBC, dear ..
@wardenphil3 жыл бұрын
We have the exact same problem on the other side of the pond.......
@barryemery163 жыл бұрын
Every so often, I come back and watch this. I had the pleasure to work with Lt Cdr Tiny Lister during my time in submarines and was also in the WT office for another Perisher which Cdr Dai Evans (RIP Sir) was teacher. I really felt for Tiny, he was one of the good ones when I was part of the same crew. I also met Cdr Dai Evans when he was Commander CSST. He tried to get me to go off the casing and retrieve a man overboard (I was swimmer of the watch on the surface), the man being a bag of garbage. There were a lot of Big basking sharks swimming around the boat at the time, I shouted up to the bridge, “there’s sharks swimming around”, “don’t worry about them, they’re only basking sharks, they won’t hurt you” was the reply from the bridge, “one of them might not be, I would be in if it was a real man overboard” was my reply. “Fair point, ok, end of exercise” was Cdr Evans reply. I look back of these days with great memories. We were given the best training possible and we made friends for life. Sadly as time goes by, I see many old boat mates pass the bar, however, as we all know, the only two certainties in life are taxes and death. DBF.
@MrZakatista3 жыл бұрын
Great comment.
@robertbarker68802 жыл бұрын
Tiny became our Jimmy on Cleo and was a brilliant bloke. Made a great team with Tom le Marchand & Tony Rowe hunting Victor IIIs.
@kilm22322 жыл бұрын
Haha, I thought you meant it was a real overboard and the guy was a bag of garbage not worth saving!
@vinyltapelover2 жыл бұрын
@@kilm2232 Lol lol, I thought the same until I kept reading. I had a "say what?' moment, thinking as a retired military, that no matter which military an individual is in, disobeying a direct order is trouble for the individual. I found myself relieved and smiling broadly at the finish of the story. Nice story, well done.
@Anglo_Saxon12 жыл бұрын
You mean a bag of rubbish?😉
@glennday78024 ай бұрын
As a USN career (35 years) mustang submariner, one of my jobs was to evaluate the tactical and strategic weapons proficiency of submarine crews. As such, I observed many CO's and can attest these men are the absolute best the Navy can produce. All are nuclear propulsion engineers as well as extraordinarily intelligent. I'm fortunate to have had the opportunity to work with them. Salute!!
@littleones-yeahh4 ай бұрын
does the US military pay all of these retired zogbots to go around youtube comments making these types of comments?
@Amazar014 жыл бұрын
I have often known folk criticise failure, be it men like these, those attempting P Coy or others. However, these men all reached a point where they were considered worthy of selection for this course to begin with. That is a level of competence most people will never reach. Pass or fail, any Perisher should feel justifiably proud of even being considered for such a thing.
@notreallydavid3 жыл бұрын
Dead right, Michael. Applaudable, all of them.
@MrDiredemon3 жыл бұрын
Dave "tiny" Lister lives just around the corner from myself in plymouth , He bitterly regrets his performance on his CSST course and was found to be suffering the onset of diabetes which was stripping him whilst on course :( Still a great guy just wishes he hadn't been so bombastic whilst on course, his words not mine . Lovely guy
@tba82413 жыл бұрын
@@MrDiredemon A very amenable looking bloke I wish him well
@crabbyj3 жыл бұрын
P Coy... respect!
@mikecimerian69133 жыл бұрын
How can we fail if we don't try in the first place?
@paulgerard8859 Жыл бұрын
I was a Perisher PO for two separate drafts, a fascinating job, I feel very privileged. I did 8 Perisher Courses and saw some great people at work. It was always great to see a Perisher get his act together and thrive.
@hantykje30054 жыл бұрын
Good documentary completely stripped of dumb sounds bites, cheesy narrators, and overdramatic background music.
@yokumato4 жыл бұрын
Good point, nowadays is hard to see documentaries that are not dramatized or narrated by "stars".
@juliusraben35263 жыл бұрын
And the subject is a fresh angle on the "submarine documentary"
@allezneg85457 ай бұрын
Amen to that
@DAllan-lz3lg3 жыл бұрын
I love how much of a people person the teacher actually was. Of course he had to be brutally strict and objective but you see how he felt for the failures and how delighted he was for the successes. What a fantastic teacher, so many could learn from him ! I was watching this and I was nervous 😂
@martinwarne71833 жыл бұрын
He is special for sure
@channelfogg66293 жыл бұрын
'I love how much of a people person the teacher actually was.' - What a decent man he was, combined with obvious efficiency.
@DAllan-lz3lg3 жыл бұрын
@Noel Coward is that a criticism ..?
@DAllan-lz3lg3 жыл бұрын
@Noel Coward phew. I see so much public school bashing. If he was the product of a public school education, and he went in to instruct future submarine commanders then so be it, a glowing endorsement for public schools !
@vinyltapelover2 жыл бұрын
@@DAllan-lz3lg Maybe the public schools system, as it was in the. U.S. back when he was attending, could be highly regarded. As I saw it, they could be on parity with private and parochial schools. Witin the last 25 to 30 years, U.S. schools have moved from strong academics abd teaching critical thinking skills to wokeism, transgender affirming, classes of sexual habits and self stimulation to children of ages as early as 5 and 6 years of age. The teachers, teachers union are pushing crt, activism and protesting. Math, language and sciences are being discouraged.by the same forces mentioned above, as being courses of the oppressors. The current administration is sanctioning it all and will only fund public schools to teach all this stuff from Green New Deal funding. I am a 74 year old retired vet and I and many others see the difference in what is going on not only in public schools, but charter schools, private schools and parochial schools. My apologies for going on so much but it is happening.
@peterpluim79123 жыл бұрын
This course, with TV cameras watching every moment. Respect.
@seltaeb96913 жыл бұрын
And cameras are still big things to hunk around then especially in that small sub. I was in Army so respect their service.
@MarkCarroll-pg4gk Жыл бұрын
I had the privilege of attending two emergency response courses led by Dai Evans (Teacher) in 2004. A true gentleman and phenomenal tutor. RIP Dai.
@haggis0874 жыл бұрын
Watching this in UK in second lockdown in remembrance of my late Uncle: Captain R I M Wood. Many happy memories of him taking me to visit Faslane and fun times at his quarters in Rhu. Died much too young and missed
@IwokeUpInSOMA4 жыл бұрын
Respect.🙏
@notreallydavid3 жыл бұрын
Condolences, Haggis. Anyone making it to submarine command is necessarily exceptional.
@mattgrant94794 ай бұрын
Rim wood?
@haggis0874 ай бұрын
@@mattgrant9479 Ha! Somewhat unfortunate! :)
@commercio35643 жыл бұрын
This was phenomenal to watch. It's so weird - for a lad like myself - to see what the culture was like back in the 80s. Smoking on a submarine, Queen's English speech etc.
@fedupwithfedforever41513 жыл бұрын
Its almost like a time when the world wasn't INSANE !
@Anglo_Saxon12 жыл бұрын
Kinda like when things were normal
@bonglord984310 ай бұрын
@@Anglo_Saxon1smoking on a submarine is NOT normal
@Anglo_Saxon110 ай бұрын
@bonglord9843 Is was obviously 'normal' to those lads back then in the 80's, or they wouldn't be doing it.
@camdelaforce12304 ай бұрын
@@bonglord9843with a name such as yours, pointing out what is and what isn't "normal"; I'm amazed you know what day of the week it is, mr bong man. Smoking was everywhere as a child in early 90's i still remember ashtrays in shopping centres, plane seat arm rests. 😂
@aikimechanic10 ай бұрын
Thanks for putting this out there. I grew up watching similar programs in the USA when I was growing up, and modern media is utter trash in comparison.
@robinwells88793 жыл бұрын
Oh to have half the talent of the alleged “failures“! I had the pleasure to work for a graduate of one of these courses and he was by far the best ops director I ever worked for.
@sullybiker65203 жыл бұрын
The Navy tended to produce great people.
@commercio35643 жыл бұрын
That intro music is why I love music from the 80s. So retro!
@tonkerdog1 Жыл бұрын
When you want Vangelis and get a ZX Spectrum.
@DavidPrewer-gi6hy14 күн бұрын
Die Evans I remember him well from first draft on Cachalot.
@BeKindToBirds Жыл бұрын
The two captains who made it through were the unnoticed ones in the program. Quite fitting that, in the end.
@CarlWarner-q6e11 ай бұрын
I sailed with CDR Evans, a very clever commander, and very hard to please. He was known as "Dasher Dia" and always went max speed everywhere.
@tba8241 Жыл бұрын
RIP Teacher,Dai Evans
@paulb67163 жыл бұрын
I worked with a guy at the Post Office in the late Eighties who was the Sonar Operator on this programme. Plus , by coincidence another guy was in one of the frigates hunting above!!
@snowflakemelter11723 жыл бұрын
That one strand of hair he's combed over really fooled me into thinking he wasn't bald.
@nigelbenn46423 жыл бұрын
The cunning of a sub commander!
@arilebon3 жыл бұрын
That comes through years of submarine training and the art of being covert. Respect.
@sadwingsraging30442 жыл бұрын
That was his proximity sensor for overhead obstacles.😑
@amazer747 Жыл бұрын
He's related to Bobby Charlton
@HIOP08 ай бұрын
YOU'VE BEEN WAITING AGES TO MAKE THAT COMMENT...WELL DONE INDEED...@@amazer747
@gmf1212663 жыл бұрын
Massive respect for all those who have taken perisher succeed or fail. Makes me realise how competent sub commanders are if they can pass this.
@Billyvinilly893 жыл бұрын
By the look of Cmdr Evan’s hair, he doesn’t seem like a man that ever gives up
@phili0wilders7973 жыл бұрын
Served under dai Evans on renown as his cpo ops sonar, grand fellow total respect.
@Highland_Moo5 ай бұрын
Nice seeing the RMAS vessels in the yellow/black colour. I worked at BUTEC in the mid-90s and was lucky enough to sail out to the weapons range on a few occasions to collect folk from submarines who were coming to the mainland for a run ashore. Got to sail up to Rona a few times too and was always happy to see puffins land on the deck!
@Sabhail_ar_Alba3 жыл бұрын
I think the reason for the abundance of smokers was the cigarettes were free. You had a weekly or monthly allocation of Blue Liner cigarettes which we called 'cancer sticks'. I used to save them up and give to my dad and auntie.
@gmann62692 ай бұрын
4:12 David Lister! 😂 Mind you, this 1985 program predates Red Dwarf by 3 years. And he's nicknamed Tiny Lister, there was an American actor called Tiny Lister who was in films like The Fifth Element.
@deepcoolclear2 жыл бұрын
There was rehash of this done in 2011 called submarine school about the perisher course also on YT. It’s interesting to compare both documentaries
@bodegabreath42583 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this. Thank you much. Quality viewing.
@ottohonkala68613 жыл бұрын
What a great training officer - Kudos....had many like him and yes - it's really tough - but boy does it carry through - The Royal Navy should be proud....as I am sure they are. Well done all.
@Tourist19673 жыл бұрын
Ten years in at the minimum - most of them aged 30 at least. They will all be 70 or more now. Odd to think about it.
@arilebon3 жыл бұрын
Gosh -- in current day, they would pass as in their 40s or 50s.
@Cous1nJack6 ай бұрын
@@arilebonthey do look old compared to modern 40yo
@gmf1212663 жыл бұрын
I've been on Hms Ocelot at Chatham. Same class as oracle. Extremely cramped. Great respect for any who spent time serving on diesel electrics.
@sullybiker65203 жыл бұрын
The 'Sardine's Revenge'!
@The_Oracle2 жыл бұрын
I was on it last week. Found this video after going on it.
@stephensmith44803 жыл бұрын
These Men are the Cream of the crop. I would imagine that competition just to get on the course would be fierce.
@belesariius3 жыл бұрын
For the historical record, the painting of the sub in the Perisher bar was done by a Commando D day veteran who fought at Ouistreham called Charles Forrest; A lovely gentleman who had with him at the time a wolf called Magnet.
@vinyltapelover2 жыл бұрын
belesariius "..."..the painting of the sub in the Perisher bar..... who fought at Ouistreham called Charles Forrest;." 👍🏼 A very fascinating tease, having you wanting more, that would be found on the inside cover of a biographical story. Thank you for posting that info.
@belesariius2 жыл бұрын
Most welcome :)
@DJ-jn3on3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed watching this when it first came out. I love watching anything on our Armed Forces, be it training or actual battle experience.
@IKS-Exploration2 жыл бұрын
This is a true British documentary not like now a days sadly. huge respect to them officers involved 😊
@lezlezman18433 жыл бұрын
I couldn't finish watching this. I felt too tense and anxious...that's just viewing the vid! I can't imagine the feeling of actually being there!
@samiamgreeneggsandham75876 ай бұрын
Badass documentary of a badass PCO course. You Poms did it right.
@DrTWG5 ай бұрын
Well I'm sure we are delighted about gaining your approval.
@davidcunico1673 Жыл бұрын
I am an US Navy sailor from the 60's, we did'nt have missiles, only guns, just depth charges, AS Rocket Depth charges, torpedoes. We were flanked and hounded by Soviet Destroyers during that time...we had 5 inch and 3 " guns so it would have been interesting in a conlflict. times have changed. We had decent sonar, less than adequate analog Fire Control computers, etc.
@dshmechanic7 ай бұрын
The intro music is pure analog Heaven, and so brilliantly married to the video.
@tabletstheband4 ай бұрын
Sounds like a Yamaha CS80 a la Vangelis
@carlhicksjr84012 жыл бұрын
Knowing what one CANNOT do is just as important as knowing what one CAN do. Like every other human on this planet, I have several deficits in my abilities... I'm a good assistant but a lousy leader, for example. The danger of being pushed to your limits is that sometimes you find out your limits are much farther down the scale than you thought. But if you can accept your limitations and come to terms with them, you'll often find that it makes you far more effective at the things you're good at.
@thomasschiller4043 жыл бұрын
While at the Centre for Defence Studies at Aberdeen University in the 1980s, we went on a field trip to Ardrossan. Spent the day on HMS Fife charging around off Arran as part of the Perisher course.
@malcolmfannon45893 жыл бұрын
I did several perishers as crew and it was the only time I really felt sorry for officers, they all desperately wanted to do well and you could see the mind turning to custard as the pressure came on. I think it fair to say that it achieved its aim as in most cases only the best got through, one in particular that made it and shouldn't have will remain nameless but anyone on the Sealion when she left Rosyth after refit will know who I mean.
@marcelevans12693 жыл бұрын
I used to be panel watch keeper on Sealion , saw some of these officers and remember " Teacher".
@barryemery163 жыл бұрын
I did several perisher as crew (WT Shack). Also did a couple with Dai Evans (RIP) as Teacher, met him initially when he was Cdr CSST during a work up. Met him again after leaving, he was running command and control courses for the Oil&Gas industry at RGiT at Montrose.
@pauljones81493 жыл бұрын
My dad was an engineer on the Sealion , he did 2 draftings and a refit on it . Happy memories, I remember it doing a refit in Portsmouth around 1982 . I’d sometimes go to work with him during half terms etc. Happy memories.
@freespirit56803 жыл бұрын
I was very fortunate as a snottie to spend about 6 weeks in Sealion, as part of my basic officer training. Joined her at Chatham, ended up going down to the Med., left her in Gib. Happy days, loved it! They had no bunk for me so I was on a camp bed down in the torpedo space, Mk 9 on one side and a Mk 8 the other. Just two stories: - heading SW and out of the Channel, lovely sunny day, flat calm, thick sea fog blanking out everything to about 30' above us, I was 2nd OOW, when we were assailed by a massive 'BANG'. Utterly astonishing, just out of nowhere, nothing in sight (not that we could see that far). Then the OOW looked up and pointed. High above us and over to the West, there was Concorde racing across the sky. We'd been caught in the sonic boom. - arriving at Gib., we had to practise towing, or rather, being towed. We had stopped, and the picket boat was being driven by a RAN lieutenant who must have been a bit green, just could not manouevre it alongside. After numerous to-ings and fro-ings, our captain, who was a young two and a half and a top bloke, got totally fed up and said, 'Suggest you heave to, and we'll come alongside you ...' Was just so impressed with the people I met: professional, good humoured, just great guys all of them.
@deeremeyer17492 жыл бұрын
Why were you watching them instead of doing your job?
@garyrawlings12735 ай бұрын
The quick cigarette break: Love it! So appropriate in times of stress and relaxation. A Miltary tradition of maintaining concentration and comradeship. Eroded over time. M.O.D. No longer allow smoking on/in all bases/ ships etc, NO WONDER morale is low!!!
@simonfrancis54582 ай бұрын
I had the pleasure of knowing Commander Evans, a true gentleman and very impressive human being !
@phmwu73684 жыл бұрын
Note wristwatch-wise most officers wore two, a modern quartz and a classic mechanical wristwatch.
@jambutty22183 жыл бұрын
thanks for the upload
@arilebon3 жыл бұрын
Smoking in the submarine. I guess smoking in hospitals were allowed back then, but smoking in subs takes it to another level.
@vinyltapelover2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great upload. This beats Netflix, commercial and cable tv by miles, or kilometers: ). I just subscribed.
@malcolmjw87503 жыл бұрын
This series has become an artefact of the society of the time, in particular the smoking culture, which was still alive and well at all social levels. Then there is the social divide between the officers and their wives (almost all privately educated) and the 'other ranks' and their wives (with 'regional' accents from 'local' schools). In that respect, I don't think the armed forces have changed much, certainly not at the top. When did you last hear a general or an admiral with a Lancashire accent?
@David-cm4ok2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t escape my notice how plummy they were. I’m sure many others would have been just as qualified, if only they had the right accent/breeding.
@garnetmichel55173 жыл бұрын
I was rooting for Tiny Lister Good for him he stayed in the Navy 🔥💯
@mikegoldstone68323 жыл бұрын
Amazing how you could smoke cigarretes on a submarine in those days when air supply was so crucial.
@sadwingsraging30442 жыл бұрын
No snowflakes back then.
@Cous1nJack6 ай бұрын
Air is scrubbed continuously
@sabercruiser.70539 ай бұрын
Brilliant 👍👍✨✨🇬🇧🇬🇧 thank you
@JRJunior86242 жыл бұрын
"Lister shouldn't react so strongly" Teacher tells the Engineer he's going to get a boot up the ass! love it!
@SimDeck4 жыл бұрын
When I watch this and see how much pressure they are under and the level they have to perform I think about an average day at my work and laugh at how pathetic I am when the phone rings because someone wants a bit of information in a few days.
@nigelbenn46423 жыл бұрын
Do you have a first rate world class well trained team around you providing you with minute to minute accurate data? You're probably right to be stressed at your work.
@SimDeck3 жыл бұрын
@@nigelbenn4642 A good point.
@elliottg.19543 жыл бұрын
When the BBC used to be entertaining and less obviously biased. Totally different outlook and ideology at the BBC nowadays.
@amazer747 Жыл бұрын
Worth the licence in those days. Not so now - ditched mine a few years ago and don't miss the BBC at all.
@Boeing747-8i5 ай бұрын
Brillant. Large aircraft captain myself. Nothing even close to this. Still, reminds me a lot of my training and mentors.
@turbografx163 жыл бұрын
I wish they had explained why those who fail cannot continue in the previous position. Clearly they were able and competent enough to be selected for the course in the first place.
@georgemitchellmusic3 жыл бұрын
It's because the 2nd in command role is effectively a training role for those who are then eligible for the Perisher course. If they go back then they block an opportunity for future would-be captains
@dinger404 жыл бұрын
A blast from the past, recognise a few faces.
@bsd1073 жыл бұрын
Yes! I remember watching this as a kid (probably in 1983). I still remember Tiny getting angry during one of his attack runs.
@koogar773 жыл бұрын
Failing is only not attempting something, not reaching for a goal, we’re all humans, some good at this, some at that, but if you never try, that’s the only time you’ll fail
@juliusraben35263 жыл бұрын
Goddang that trick with noisepads was genius xD
@swainscheps4 ай бұрын
2:22 in addition to comb-over…so this is a test on whether they know how to use a periscope?
@barrykevin76583 жыл бұрын
I'd skip that job but huge respect to those that do it . 👏
@249346373 жыл бұрын
There may not be anyone standing behind you saying 'you didn't do that very well', but there may well be 50+people thinking it!
@249346373 жыл бұрын
@Pete Muller 2434!! Wow, if you don't mind me asking, what year was that?
@249346373 жыл бұрын
@Pete Muller Later than I expected!! I joined in 1995, can't remember what month......There's been a lot of alcohol consumed since then LOL, must have been about November at a guess, because I remember Salisbury Plain being absolutely freezing during basic training.
@249346373 жыл бұрын
@Pete Muller I've not heard anything about reissue of numbers, but I suppose if they are sticking with the 8 figures they'd have to at some point.
@allandavis82012 жыл бұрын
I have watched this series before and it is really very interesting and entertaining, and without any spoilers I have to say I felt sorry for the “perishes”, even knowing that the perishes are trying to become the “best of the best” and failure is basically the end of their carrier and possibly their service, teach has to be ruthless as if he passes a candidate and it leads to a failure of command on active service it isn’t like a job where you get a second chance, it could easily lead to injuries, deaths, and the complete loss of a hugely expensive boat and entire crew. I don’t like his attitude but realise it has to be the way it is.
@bobeden50273 жыл бұрын
On the edge of my seat!
@DavidPigbody3 жыл бұрын
That combover though...
@burntpeppers74143 жыл бұрын
Fantastic tv, very interesting 👍
@craigduncan48263 жыл бұрын
Mclarrens brain is that big his skull has actually had to enlarge to accommodate it! He’s like something from pinky and the brain. Super smart guy. Unfortunate forehead.
@justandy333 Жыл бұрын
From a civilians point of view it must be absolutely gut wrenching to have failed the course. I understand the reasons why, but still. But also, being the officer assessing the prospective captains must be an awful job to tell someone who's worked their way up the chain for 10+ years to tell them them they haven't made the cut and essentially ended their career in the submarine service. An utterly brutal process. I hope they've managed to find a career elsewhere and managed to make a success of it.
@murringo93 жыл бұрын
Heavy price to pay for failure...never going to sea again in a sub, must be tough if you love the life but fail the course.
@natashanicole74083 жыл бұрын
Why can’t they remain in their previous role?
@wandring0spirit3 жыл бұрын
@@natashanicole7408 If they remain in their previous role, they block the job from being used to train the next generation who have to gain the experience necessary to qualify for the Perisher course.
@SolarWebsite3 жыл бұрын
48:58 when 70 guys light up in a sealed steel tube, and you're the only non smoker 😁
@1977ajax2 жыл бұрын
Odd as it may seem now, non-smokers hardly objected in those days. It was so common to be surrounded by smokers that one got used to it. Lighting up now indoors seems to be the equivalent of pulling the pin from a grenade. For the best though, I guess.
@Biggles24984 жыл бұрын
The Dreaded "Sine Wave" Of Performance in any aspect of our lives. Fear Of Failure ?
@davedaihatsu25853 жыл бұрын
This BBC documentary was produced in 1985, at a time when the Royal Navy still had the Oberon-class diesel-electric submarines in operational service. The normal/diesel-electric submarine Perisher course is now conducted by the Royal Netherlands Navy after the Royal Navy transitioned to a fully nuclear submarine fleet in 1994. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_Command_Course
@lourdesgallardo22 Жыл бұрын
thanks for providing the exact year. I was going to research that but decided to read the comments in case someone had already determined that.
@1669Python3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a 21 in action.
@billybobkingston56043 жыл бұрын
Bloody well done
@deancarter24903 жыл бұрын
49:11 what ! a ciggie break inside the sub !! I bet thats not allowed today !
@billkingston44023 жыл бұрын
Bad day at the office, bloody hell, respect
@peterfreeman71973 жыл бұрын
Comb overs are legendary.
@neilhobson36243 жыл бұрын
Ha Ha Ha. My thoughts exactly 😀😀😀👍👍🇬🇧.
@arilebon3 жыл бұрын
It's part of being covert. Will be turfed out of the service otherwise.
@mdb831 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if that old boat was any good? Oberon Class? First I ever heard of them.
@jfprieur Жыл бұрын
They were some of the quietest boats ever made and excelled at special operations
@mdb831 Жыл бұрын
@jfprieur I did a bit of research. Some of those boats did some cool things. I'm sure many more things that are classified top secret to this day.
@martinwarne71833 жыл бұрын
Much respect to all who give all
@PlasmaCoolantLeakАй бұрын
A clip from this was shown in the Discovery Channel's "Submarines: Sharks of Steel."
@robashton86063 жыл бұрын
Can anyone explain to me why, having failed the Perisher, the men are suddenly cast out of the submarine service, never to put to see in a sub again? Surely they would still have been useful as officers at their previous posts, at least for a few years. I'm not especially well versed in the ways of the senior service, but I'm assuming that a great deal of time, effort and treasure was used in training them up to the level they had reached prior to taking the captain's course? Isn't banishing them to some other post rather a waste of all that? I presume that there is some kind of reasoning behind such a policy, I just can't fathom what it might be.
@natashanicole74083 жыл бұрын
Also very curious about this
@Billyvinilly893 жыл бұрын
From what i understand, having learned submarine tactics but being unable to captain a boat, the sailers who fail out are fantastic candidates for positions that involve hunting submarines.
@joshcadman58683 жыл бұрын
It’s a simple test to weed out the officers who aren’t fully appreciative of the high stakes that submarine command is. By virtue of accepting a place on perisher, knowing full well their future career in submarines is on the line, you know these officers are deadly serious and will put everything on the line to succeed. That’s the kind of mentality you need of your future commanders.
@cypruskev5 ай бұрын
better to make the mistake on the course than get 120 men killed in action needlessly thats why you only get one chance in boats
@bobdinwiddy3 жыл бұрын
superb soundtrack :)
@GoSlash273 жыл бұрын
This is why the Brits are the best in the world at submarining.
@stephenpage-murray72263 жыл бұрын
Other nations submariners do this course and excel…
@loyalist57363 жыл бұрын
@@stephenpage-murray7226 Do this course ?
@stephenpage-murray72263 жыл бұрын
@@loyalist5736 RAN, U.S, South Korea
@loyalist57363 жыл бұрын
@@stephenpage-murray7226 They don't do this course.
@stephenpage-murray72263 жыл бұрын
@@loyalist5736 They do. I personally know one who did and if you watch the multiple videos there are non RN sailors. What part of that don’t you understand?
@neilhoganwa3 жыл бұрын
Its the hardest test in any force. Only the best pass.
@Spookieham3 жыл бұрын
The Red haired chap took a very brave decision to admit he wasn't good enough.
@steinelgaaen3 жыл бұрын
Agree, awsome chap
@pauljones1029 Жыл бұрын
What submarine was this ?
@simple_beys3 ай бұрын
I miss that navy.
@mikew27634 ай бұрын
Why is the periscope constantly going up and down why not just leave it up
@tomandsamuel5 ай бұрын
I don’t get the rule about the failure of the course meaning the end of the students time in the submarine service. Surely if someone has shown the required skills to get on the course in the first place, they have something that the service is looking for. If they aren’t successful then surely a period of development may mean they are suitable to come back and have another go? I accept that some people maybe totally unsuitable, but some may have the ability to come back and pass it. Does anyone know if this is still the rule nowadays or was it an old rule?
@shaneobrien22574 ай бұрын
I just asked the same question before seeing your comment. 👍 It’d be interesting to know why they have to leave and are never allowed back on.
@tomandsamuel4 ай бұрын
@@shaneobrien2257 it’s a good question! 😂 I’ve done some research and it would appear that it is still the same rule. They still get to wear the Dolphin badge but are normally prevented for serving in the Submarine service again. Not all bad news, they get presented with a bottle of whiskey to ease the pain 😂😂
@shaneobrien22574 ай бұрын
He he. Great 😀. Thanks for into. 👍
@jacobhill33022 жыл бұрын
Was this used as training for the ASW ships as well? Seems like a good idea to me. Potential frigate captains etc...
@RottiDog1003 жыл бұрын
I am amazed that they alorwed smoking up until the 1980s.
@1977ajax2 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed you let that gross error of spelling sit there for over a year, but then it's an amazing world.
@jasonaris53165 ай бұрын
Ratings were still issued cigarettes or tobacco as part of their pay until 1991
@Philip-ds3nx3 ай бұрын
Served with dai Evans st 132 and as cpo(ops sonar,) renown port 80-82
@Anglo_Saxon12 жыл бұрын
The narrator sounds like the bloke who starred in Bergerac.
@marknorman8112 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, because it is him 😂
@unitedwestand51003 жыл бұрын
That Submarine makes a huge wake when surfaced. Does that transfer to an equally large passive sonar signature when its submerged?
@paulwood58033 жыл бұрын
Depends on the target, whether it is conventional or nuclear. Conventional almost no passive signature at slow speed, nukes a little noisier but not much. In short the passive signature is minimal and at these close quarters you wouldn't be relying on passive sonar in the surface ship, you'd be using active.... if you knew the sub was in the vicinity.
@unitedwestand51003 жыл бұрын
@@paulwood5803 ,. Ive heard that Passive Sonar can pick up the cavitation from a propeller, or even a bad bearing in an oxygen generator, or worn brushes in an electrical generator. I must ask what is your qualification for such an answer? Looking at your profile all I see is a troll.
@paulwood58033 жыл бұрын
@@unitedwestand5100 10 years as an ASW Officer in the RN and one time lead instructor for the Force ASW Adqual course which was the pinnacle of RN ASW attended by Admirals downwards. Below about 6 knots submarine propellors do not cavitate, most machinery if not all is accoustically insulated from the submarine hull so external sound transmission at a detectable level is virtually nil. If you go back into the 1970's Russian submarines were as noisy as a bucket of bolts being rattled and we could track their 50Hz electrical lines, conditions permitting, at hundreds of miles on passive sonar. Don't forget also that above about 6-8 knots the flow noise on a passive sonar array makes them virtually deaf and useless for detection. Plus any meaningful targetting of subs using passive sonar takes hours as you don't get range from passive sonar only a bearing and bearing accuracy varies according to the relative bearing of the target to the array.
@unitedwestand51003 жыл бұрын
@@paulwood5803 ,. I just watched a documentary about the US Virginia class, and their warning system informed their engineers they had a excessive passive sonar signature from a generator. They switched over to another one and the noise went away. The Ship engineers determined the noise was in the commutator. When they broke it down they found the problem was the brushes. The engineer worked 12 straight hours on it. Also, the US, after the Swedish sub incident , installed a shield around the propellers on our subs to eliminate cavitation. They determined even at slow speeds that the cavitation was detectable by passive sonar. Dont get me wrong, but the RN has a lot it could learn from the USN.
@HughJarse19683 жыл бұрын
@@unitedwestand5100 No thanks :)
@Ljw-low-ljw3 жыл бұрын
Comb overs and sideburns - happy days
@george55903 жыл бұрын
is smoking banned in subs now ?
@allandavis82012 жыл бұрын
A good question, I don’t actually know, but I hope not, a good friend of mine has just re-enlisted in the submarine service and he is a heavy smoker, I believe that the law surrounding smoking allows for it to happen, just like it is in prisons, oil rigs, and I believe hotels are able to designate rooms as either smoking or non smoking but on that one I could be wrong. I think my friend would be able to manage though as he was serving when the law was first introduced, but we will sea.
@patrickzepke81793 жыл бұрын
Does someone know if other Nato Submarine commanders made this training? Was it for all commanders in Submarine later and did our german Captains made it? Was or is there a similar training for the counterside in the frigates?
@jeffbaine40943 жыл бұрын
Canada did send RCN officers to the Perisher course in the UK. After the RN went all nuclear subs the Dutch Navy with RN agreement took over the non nuclear Perisher course. RCN to this day send officers to the course.
@Spartanm3333 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this when it first came out - just as I had joined the Police and was going through some fairly intensive training myself at RAF Dishforth in Yorkshire. It was brutal in the beginning up at 5.30 drilling and we lost several people on the Police course - this is on a whole other level and if you don't hit the mark you shouldn't be doing the job. My major achievement 2 years in and after 4 months of intensive training was the Police advanced driving / armed response / dip protection course - I passed 1/1 and was driving a V8 3500 Rover Vitesse on the M1 at 160 mph+ at 23 years old, including shouts concerning the IRA who were active at the time. We had SAS (sneaky beaky) train us for the final two weeks - all very exciting - but not for the faint hearted using the vehicle as an offensive weapon at high speeds. And civvies outside the job had no idea what we were training for or the level, not even my own family... we ran two fully armed cars every shift, tooled up and ready to react, first response to any firearms or terrorist action.
@nigelbenn46423 жыл бұрын
4:12 well let's hope this isn't the real Dave Lister or his Sub will be flying through space without a crew!
@richardstaples86213 ай бұрын
Is the characteristic smell of a sub still laced with tobacco smoke these days?