BBC documentary about hernia mesh complications

[@PinkFreud1987]

I feel for David, I really do. I am a victim of the NHS too. I have had 25 cm worth of metal coils placed into my spermatic vein. I was NOT warned of any risks, expect for "spasms". I developed multiple neuralgias, including genitofemoral, ilioinguinal and pudendal neuralgia, which give me excruciating pain in the most sensitive areas of my body. I have spent 25k on treatments already. I have had to arrange private surgery (robotic laparoscopy) to remove the coils as the NHS refused to offer removal. I'm going to say to David: take the mesh out, whatever it takes. I also thought that removing the coils could make things worse. I had to have 5 pelvic and abdominal incisions to get them all out. BUT, I'd rather give my body a chance to heal naturally, which wouldn't have happened with the evil coils compressing and damaging nerves. I am still in pain, but I am hopeful that it will subside with time. These surgeons are murderers paid by us, in my view. They fail to adhere to any ethical standards, and get away with virtually anything, like destroying this poor's man life. Get the mesh out of your system David and give your body a chance to heal. Stay strong!

[@BibaSenana]

Omg....im scared now...Im waiting for operation... I dont wanna mesh.

[@G-NutZ]

Please research the Desarda hernia repair, invented by Dr. Mohan Desarda. It’s a no tension mesh free muscle graph.

[@arunassl876]

@@G-NutZ No miracle in this. The classical hernia repair performed for at least decades before the meshes appeared.

[@im1who84u]

*Tips and information for recovering from Hernia Surgery if you live alone.* These are things you should do before you leave the house to go for surgery. This includes but is not limited to: Cook and prepare a week’s worth of meals and snacks before surgery. Meals that will be easy to pass through your digestive system. Things like vegetable soup with beans, carrots, celery…, oatmeal with prunes, egg salad, chicken salad, steamed carrots, broccoli, asparagus… low fat and low grease type foods. Snacks like apples, oranges, *ripe* bananas, all kinds of fruits and berries are good to keep things moving. Start taking a stool softener one or two days before surgery and then continue taking it when you get back home. Wear loose fitting clothes to the hospital and continue to do so when you get back home. Example: I took a shower that morning with an antibacterial soap, I wore clean socks, slippers, sweatpants with no underpants, a T-Shirt, and no jewelry of any kind. In a ziplock bag place your keys, ID card, a credit card, medical insurance cards, and give it to your driver to hold. Do not take your phone to surgery. Leave your phone at home, on your nightstand, and fully charged. Place something next to your toilet you can grab onto to help you get on and off the toilet. Do the same for your bed and other areas you may sit. Have toothpaste, toothbrush, and floss out and ready to use. A glass to use for water to rinse out your mouth. You’re not going to be able to bend over to _cup water_ into your hands. If you don’t already have a _grabber,_ get one. Place a thermometer on your nightstand and make sure it is in working order. Have on hand at least two ice packs that you can wrap a clean cloth around to put over the location of surgery and rotate them from the freezer as needed. This will keep the swelling down. Read your after surgery instructions and follow them. Listen to your doctor and follow his/her orders. Keep the wound area clean and GENTALY clean it with an antibacterial soap every morning and again before you go to bed at night. Have clean sheets on your bed. The next day get up and walk but be careful. I walked outside twice around the cul-de-sac four times a day starting the day right after surgery. Twice in the morning, once in the afternoon, and then again in the evening. Have plenty of water and Gatorade on hand, and before you leave for surgery place a few bottles on your nightstand, computer desk, kitchen table, kitchen counters, your television chair, and in your refrigerator. Drink plenty of liquids. At least four bottles per day. Take pain medication as needed but don’t overdo it. All pain medications can cause constipation and trust me, you don’t want that. A list of movies you may want to watch. I am not going to sugarcoat this for you. It’s going to be hard. The first three days are not going to be pretty, they are hard and tough, so be ready. It gets easier on your fourth day. Good luck and I hope this helps.

[@amethystfeathers7324]

Thank you so much. I'm having this surgery and I live alone. Hope you're doing well.

[@im1who84u]

@@amethystfeathers7324 Thank you for your concern. I had the surgery back in July of 2024 so I am fully recovered now with no complications. The first three recovery days are pretty tough and for some reason the forth day is markedly better in a positive way. If you follow my suggestions plus any of your own you come up with, you should be fine. Getting out of bed was the hardest part for me. I had to CAREFULLY role out. When you do this make sure you have something sturdy near-by to grab onto as you stand up. I put out the word for people NOT to come and visit me as it is difficult for me to move around and talk and I don't need to be getting up to answer doors all day. Besides, I might be resting or napping. I told them that if I needed anything I would reach out to them. All the best.

[@nicoyalewis3991]

My name is Valderine Lewis I live in the Bahamas. I had hernia😢mesh implant in 2022, to repair the hernis.The Hernia has return I also have seroma my stomach on the right side is swollen. Am learning so much about the mesh; am having another surgery to removed the Hernia this time and probably remove the mesh also. Thank you for the information.

[@maameserwaa6232]

I understand what he is going through after this mesh repair this has happened to me since I did this operation with hernia mesh, I have been in chronic pain from 2022 February and being going to the GP doing more test that they can see anything, am telling them that is the mesh coursing all this problem but they are not paying medical attention to me. I have been suffering from day one i did this operation am not comfortable on my walking, I have to walk in a slow manner, my right side of my rib is paining me, I have got bloated upper of my abdomen, I can’t lift, I can’t bend, I can’t pull anything, I can’t stretch myself enough going to bad I need to put pillows to support me, this mesh has holding my nerves, I need someone to support me all the time. I was doing my walk alright but after the surgery my life has been stacked, I have lose my job, taking heavy pain killers is not working, am shouting but no one is listening to me, sometimes I feel to commit suicide, am not on myself again after this hernia surgery, please I need help.

[@bettyvillegas8785]

O gosh! IL keep you in my prayers I hope you get help

[@matthewwalker6621]

Its destroyed my life and im treated like a nutter by doctors and pain treatment is near impossible. Dont ever get it done what ever you do DO NOT GET THE MESH . My life is over because of it

[@philanabonner9133]

I understand their pain I've had two hernia repair mesh surgeries and im constantly in pain during sex and even not having sex I can walk a long period of time and feel like somethings poking me I constantly use to go to the doctor doctors say they don't see anything so now as of today i bare severe pain taking OTC medications even unprescribed pain killers for pain I live with daily. It's sad!!😢❤

[@ronpflugrath2712]

Try antibiotics it is infection

[@drewdrilak2437]

Do not get mesh for a small hernia. Have it repaired the old fashioned way. Been in constant pain since having hernia mesh used

[@samaelmartinus3273]

Still having pain? My dr has over 2000 surgerys under his belt. But he mentioned mesh formally fat containing left inguinal hernia. It doesn't hurt me. But I do feel nauseous alot and don't know why. I have so many questions after my 1st consult with him. But now surgery is in 3 days and I feel neglected as I been trying to ask for another appt for a month now. Smh

[@stevekurzban9352]

@@samaelmartinus3273 it takes 3 to 6 months for some "complications" to resolve. You may still recover 100%. They reported failed surgeries as a percent then guessed it was higher. MAYBE it is higher

[@Corporatehipstar]

Hello,my friend got the mesh hernia and it has been painful for over an year..any advice??

[@MsBird322]

So sorry to hear that. What size was your hernia?

[@Charlie-tl4dv]

What’s the old fashioned way? i heard to don’t get mesh or staples

[@AWasel-qk7eu]

This is so bad !! we need the no mesh technique like Shouldice Hospital in Canada

[@BioHernia]

BioHernia offers the Shouldice technique in the UK or Germany. Please visit our website for more info: biohernia.com/en-gb

[@jo4n11]

That won't help BD sell their cheap plastic to doctors

[@aston0708]

Is that a metal or plastic mesh ?

[@BHill-id5hk]

My mother is currently awaiting her 5th revision surgery for the paritex mesh. Implanted in 2013. She is still changing wound dressing from her bowel obstruction surgery on 6/21/18. Moreover, she has 3 pieces of that mesh showing on her abdominal area. Due to the MDL litigation in the supreme court's, our case is tolled. If something doesn't change shortly this might be a wrongful death case. Sad to say.

[@Daniel-yn2lh]

I'm in USA and just have a umbilical hernia that got aggravated by a chest cold with lot's of coughing. Dr. Hasn't seen it yet and I was investigating possibilities. I have big belly and low stage liver cirrhosis, so I don't want to make it worse. I have arthritis in neck, shoulders, and lower back.. I just want the pain to end, watching this makes me happy to be American. The medical system kinda sucks here but Canada OMG, I'M SO SORRY 😢

[@sarahfellows3074]

Omg, I was wanting to push for hiatal hernia surgery 😢. Now, I don't know wjst to do. My body rejects jewelry when it's not sterling silver. So think it could be likely to reject mesh.. Can't do yoga at the moment due hiatal hernia.

[@PinkFreud1987]

Have a meshless repair, if you can.

[@MrPattyomally]

I’m with you Sarah. Know your body!! I’m 67 and was raised to treat doctors as gods. My body reacts to foreign objects. Example I’m a surfer and needed operations on my wrists due to huge lumps on my them. Luckily in Canada you have lengthy waiting times for any surgery.I purchased a new wetsuit without tight wrist seals and a month later lumps gone. I still run 10 k every day at dawn with my inguinal hernia and it will have to give me a lot of pain (minimal for years) before I line up for surgery. My body also rejects cheap jewelry.

[@PinkFreud1987]

@@MrPattyomally then NEVER have an implant placed in your body, you are right. A negligent interventional radiologist put 30cm of thick metal coils in my body, ruining my life in every possible way.

[@gfinch2211]

I understand exactly what he feels. Mines made worse as its over a kidney transplant scar. Also im just awaiting a 3rd operation to cover a new hernia close to the previous one. It can be agony at times.

[@Starlight_Silver]

Thank you for this.

[@raulocasio9168]

WARNING THE PATIENTS OF THE POTENTIAL % RISKS IS NOT ENOUGH!!! DOCTORS AND MEDICAL ESTABLISHMENTS HAVE TO COME UP WITH "NON-MESH" REPAIR ALTERNATIVE TECHNIQUES THAT ARE LESS PAIN INDUCING!

[@lucyjones5789]

Mine is a hernia on the site of th gall bladder op I had 45 years ago the old way not key hole there is one large and 4 small…the large looks like a baby’s head….they will not operate on me as I have. Half a lung missing blocked coroted arteries heart problems etc😢😢😢😢so my suffering is continuous no end…..

[@AamirZ]

Have the suppliers resolved the issue with the design, or has the NHS moved to a more reliable mesh supplier?

[@TranceHeed]

So is the no mesh route a lot more expensive? How more complicated?

[@9hills48]

I chose the no mesh option yesterday when i got operated for umbilical hernia. The doctor was seriously against it but i told him i dont want foreign objects in my body that dont belong there, he eventually agreed but told me he'd be seeing me soon for another surgery. They really try to force into placing that shitty mesh and i dont know how long this will hold but i have a good feeling about it. He removed the obstruction and just closed the 1,5cm hole below my belly button. Time will tell but I'm happy i didnt place the mesh, all i hear are negative things about it

[@TranceHeed]

@@9hills48 I got a non mesh surgery in January, and it went perfectly as far as I can tell. It’s important to really take your time with recovery, eat well and lose weight if you’re fat. I felt as if I could run or lift weights after a week but I knew it wasn’t the right thing to do. I walked straight away, though. Keep active but no impact sports or weights. People trying to recover too quick and surgeons not doing enough surgeries are probably the reason there are most recurrences. Your guy didn’t sound like an expert, he’s probably just trying to cover his own back if there was a recurrence. Mesh are a quick fix but as you said, fuck having a foreign object unless absolutely necessary.

[@samaelmartinus3273]

​@@9hills48 how are u doing now? Still happy with your decision?

[@Quantumbridge5]

How things going bro? Im in the debating what to get phase ...ive taking 2 days off in 15 years of wrk because of being sick or medical and one because i was forced because of c19. Anyway this sucks and tryn to decide

[@Edin-v6i]

How its going​@@9hills48

[@arunassl876]

As I understand, the patient has got involved and affected the inguinal nerve. It has no exact relation with the mesh, but closely related to anatomy, the body reaction to the trauma and perhaps surgical technique. It's a rear, but not unknown complication even from before the mesh period.

[@hectorgarcia-zv1wi]

I have a hernia for over 3 years and I am nervous to get surgery

[@Clownstalkers]

me too 😮

[@enockabumba7513]

Me too

[@luiscolon2238]

I was in sergury by couple weeks ago for hernias and im have mesh on the procedure ' well so early to say but im in some uncontoble pinch arrownd when muve in some way ' now im scared avobe result of mesh in my belly from now on. I Dot know by future situations. 😮

[@movenbreathe4501]

Why David is not going to Biohernia?

[@Maverickbillion]

I have a question are here you guys blaming the mesh but not blaming the doctor that perform the surgery. I’m saying this because I went a clinic where there’s only two doctors that been doing mesh surgery’s for more than 20 years and I told him that I didn’t wanted the mesh and he said that the mesh is a better option. My brother had a hernia surgery 10 years ago he has the mesh and he said he has no issues. Can someone honestly explain? Thank you

[@Clownstalkers]

maybe it was a different mesh he had

[@amethystfeathers7324]

There are thousands of lawsuits in regard to mesh. I have intolerance for nickel, penicillin, voltaren,latex plasters and there's no way I would ever have mesh in my body. There are a massive amount of lawsuits from women whose lives have been wrecked by mesh used in gyn surgeries. All the surgeons can't be incompetent. It's outrageous that it's still being used when they KNOW how it can breakdown and migrate.

[@ethan-L]

How did the surgery all go, if some or any of you still went for the mesh surgery? We are advised to get the gallbladder removed before the mesh implant for the belly button and groin areas, for prevention of infection. 12-30% complication rate is way too risky. What is the safer alternative, anyone?

[@bredanash2745]

I too like David had 15 cm Physiomesh for an 8cm defect. It broke up and attached to my bowel i was not told this when i complained of so much pain. 3 mths later as an emergency i had another bigger mesh Dynamesh put in to fix things. These were done by keyhole. While still in hospital a few days later was rushed to theatre with complications. Big incision open surgery. The second mesh was able to be removed and som e staples that were used. The first mesh had broken up causing 2 obstructions to my bowel.2011 have had more surgeries part of my bowel removed as i write this Aug 2024 have just spent 5 days in surgical assessment unit .i now have 3 hernias and dont know what the future holds.

[@Legionnaire7777]

I know just how that guy feels 😞

[@jo4n11]

They knew it was automotive grade plastic. They. Knew.

[@tinakelly4317]

An so do I, its a nightmare !!

[@nottypinoy]

has the mesh been analyzed for toxins? Or tested for comparability with living tissues? Obviously this data will add to any study. J&J has a horrid reputation incase you don't know by now. I can totally identify with these victims. I had sciatica and that is nothing but PAIN, 24/7. no eating, no sleeping, just pain.

[@Jytimbalero4632]

IT SEEMS THAT THE PROBLEM IS IN THE SOLUTION ACTUALLY!!!

[@Fearzero]

Obesity is a big risk factor for these issues.

[@kiwipics]

Do you mean being obese or becoming obese? I've had multiple hernia ops, and I've previously been a highly active time triallist, Mountain biker, Cyclo crosser ... I'm be no means obese. You can be a super athlete and have hernias, and most hernia are just abdominal muscle weakness that is just there.

[@Fearzero]

@@kiwipics I'm talking about the complications. Obese people have a ton of fat where the surgery is performed making it way more difficult.

[@steveevansphotography4138]

I have had to resort to drastic methods to prove that they have used some sort of surgical banding under my arms which is holding in a the muscle that is supost to be fixed but this feels like it’s been torn from my legs and folded up and just stuffed into a pocket and then secured I may have to nick the skin to pull out this rubber to photograph for my solicitor then the royal Shrewsbury hospital will need to explain why it’s there after I was told there was non it’s really funny how it’s the same as the little bit is sticking out near my belly button feels identical . All lies and they look after each other surgeons do .

[@Kevin333-w9p]

I won't say much, just give my opinion from my experience with the mesh. DONT LET THEM PUT THAT MESH ON YOU. This technique is destined to disappear cause has ruined many people’s lives.

[@Davewutsup]

And the statistics will go up,,, as people age. 😳"""

[@ronelkotze]

Not good to watch for me to watch. Go for mesch repairt of a big hernia after a laparotomy...I am booked of 3rd of May

[@ethan-L]

How did it all go? We are advised to get the gallbladder removed before the mesh implant for prevention of infection. 12-30% complication rate is way too risky.

[@ib2sweet]

The majority of surgeons are callous, uncaring money orientated butchers.

[@philliphall5198]

I’ve heard nothing good about mess and your basically dead

[@magic2066]

Lol what r u saying