BBC3 'Free Speech' 'Can you be Gay and Muslim?' Maajid Nawaz vs Abdullah al Andalusi

BBC3 'Free Speech' 'Can you be Gay and Muslim?' - Maajid Nawaz vs Abdullah al Andalusi

[@urwashahid9210]

I loved Abdullah al Andalusi's responses. He was true to his faith. the Muslim ladies weren't that knowledgeable

[@wut462]

Urwa Shahid E ikr Islam said your against it when u act like the other gender not for being gay

[@snehamondal8121]

@@wut462 you are absolutely right

[@wut462]

Sneha Mondal how to let people dislike Islam This is the video Like Islam illegals the action not the heart feeling

[@wut462]

I’m Muslim my self but what I hate when people knowledge is low and they speak from there selfs

[@banaynas4664]

@@wut462 Actually gays were not allowed in this religion and the 2 women were completely correct. Muslims follow the quran and the Quran tells us exactly what happens to gays (story of lud) so that is why it is not excepted. I'm sorry but what more proof do people need? If he wants to be gay good for him but he wont be acknowledged as a muslim.

[@Hetsupshut3]

Satan is just sitting here sipping his tea proud of what he's created. LOL.

[@QuadroonImperator]

ZamnItzFay That’s hilarious

[@philipschrute8487]

Tru lol

[@marykimani1590]

😂😂😂😂

[@pkbaby1418]

may be there is no god but only Satan and he is playing with us. We make a good show for him a never ending tv show.

[@sage5400]

What has he created and how?

[@TheNivKo]

These people would literally clap at anything...

[@DamienZshadow]

+HebrewLife People clap to show their support for an idea without needing to add to the background chatter. It's not stupid, it's efficient in the discourse of an open debate involving so many people.

[@TheNivKo]

***** I just think that if you agree with a million contrasting ideas in a split second, it's a bit fishy

[@DamienZshadow]

HebrewLife The same people aren't clapping all the time. If you look closely, some people are clapping at at he conclusion of some statements and others are clapping at the conclusion of others. Some few may clap for two because they find and acknowledge some truth in what their opponent may say.

[@ThumbsHunter]

+HebrewLife *clap clap clap*

[@ILIKEWALLS]

+HebrewLife you should search the episode where they had the guy from the edl in the audience, he said that he had received death threats, and this ginourmous cunt on the panel quickly responded "well dont be racist then" and this comment was met with rapturous applause from the audience. as though credible death threats from islamists were an appropriate response to the right the show is supposed to be named after, and the host did nothing about it. the show is basically a north london im-leftier-than-thou arena

[@isharkjawz5668]

Person: blinks Audience: claps Do they get paid to clap and everything lol

[@naseeradel3182]

iSharkJawz I don’t want to watch the whole thing can you give me the seconds.

[@alexandredeclima6434]

Strange, isn't it? Seems the audience is "nicely" chosen to cheer the mainstream point of view and show to the telespectators a fake popular opinion disguised as true. Very dangerous!

[@TylerDurden-oy2hm]

Pathetic...they're like seals clapping for fish...makes me cringe its straight from the american playbook...not worth watching

[@gordon7462]

It takes two straights to make a gay the world over.

[@bloodybutterfly7113]

In 100% seriousness there are people that get paid to sit in an audience and clap at every opportunity

[@FreePalestine_____]

The Prophet Muhammed [PBUH] said, *“Verily, what I fear most for my nation is the deed of the people of Lot.”* Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 1374 Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Suyuti

[@sabr4647]

May Allah swt bless you

[@peterd788]

Was this before or after he shagged a 9 year old?

[@stanbily9416]

Your prophet had a very low IQ.

[@izalazuizal]

Prophet Muhammed also marrying 6 years old, what a role model he is.

[@Ab-kq7ql]

The problem is Hadith are unreliable

[@Uhuss-qq6cq]

Next week on the show *"CAN YOU BE A VEGETARIAN AND EAT MEAT"*

[@aishamohammedyahya8442]

Best reply ever god bless

[@mansoorli3367]

Good one mate

[@Paul2377]

moneymatic You're comparing apples to oranges, though, because the definition of vegetarian is universally agreed. But there are lots of different religions and different denominations within those - so you can't really say 'this is the way it is and always will be'.

[@user-fq5fp7kd8n]

CAN YOU BE A ATHEIST AND BELIEVE IN GOD

[@heathersoares186]

Can you covet your adopted sons wife and claim to be a Prophet following the laws given to Moses?

[@Youssef-hk5vb]

Half the people that voted are probably not Muslim 😂

[@anunbelievaball4695]

That's what I am thinking about.

[@fahimasiddik9530]

More than half

[@Faizza77]

Youssef6840 of course not.

[@destiny.5756]

thats what im talking about

[@mardstark4280]

Almost every one! No muslim would ever think of homosexuality!

[@afiya3816]

He’s asking for the community to accept him not Allah

[@reverseblade8116]

Yes, a good god wouldn't make someone gay then forsake them. They have no control of that.

[@user-zv6yb9oo1p]

Allah is the best of all deceivers. What if he wrote the book to challenge us to rise above, so we learn to shed compassion and love onto one another?

[@tomjerry6553]

Ariel Sagesse Matthew 22:37-40 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.This is the first and greatest commandment.And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

[@surinderpalkaur4282]

Ya because he is Allah's child

[@HeftyCinna]

Surinderpal Kaur no he’s not

[@ShahzaibAli-yx2np]

Stay tuned for next week "Can I Be vegan And Eat meat"

[@amigaamigo5307]

Only if she’s in bed with her husband

[@albaseerahprojectforislami318]

Lol Haha

[@daniyalk713]

@@amigaamigo5307 lol kiled it

[@thehonesttruth415]

yes. theres a company "Beyond meat". that gives you vegan meats. haha . dont forget everyone sins during his life. no one is perfect.

[@user-bd9sf9qz2i]

Meme Prankz that’s a bad comparison ... vegan means you don’t want to eat any kind of animal products for any kind of interest (you’re against animal cruelty or for diet). Being Muslim means you submit to Allah and you follow the teachings. Allah is merciful, he will forgive him. He’s not doing anything bad, but Allah says a woman and a man should get together (to generalize it). The opinion on gay people is very complex and not easy to understand in the Quran. Half of the LGBT supporters are religious lol.

[@DanielCurry1979]

stay tuned next week for "Can I be jewish and a Nazi?"

[@joelfisher2433]

Daniel Curry You can, many Jews allied with the Nazis. Read history

[@RoyalKnightVIII]

Daniel Curry the answer is, sure. That's happened before.

[@Hetsupshut3]

Exactlyyyyyy broooo, that's what it seems like here omg. And people would say SURE, why not.

[@TheBullemore]

I can't stop laughing!

[@PedroCouto1982]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Goldberg

[@Jan-iy5nc]

There should be a Muslim scholar on the panel

[@tellingthetruth2949]

Jesus said: Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught? But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man. Matthew 15:17‭-‬20 KJV bible.com/bible/1/mat.15.17-20.KJV

[@nur1438]

These people on the panels seem to be uneducated about the Quran and aren’t providing solid facts. These people try to manipulate others and they tried to make them change their Muslim lifestyle. Subhanallah

[@thejiminator8816]

Oxymoron right there: Muslim Scholar LOLOLOl

[@dalmar5567]

Ustade Al Andalusi is her

[@wakeup5943]

Why? Did you know that hadiths were written 300 years after the prophet and that Muslims identify themselves as Sunni Shia salafi wahabbi etc... based on what Hadith they believe instead of reading Quran studying it and reflecting on it. You don’t need a sheik you need to see hear and understand the words of your Creator stop believing what you hear sto following hearsay stories written by men stop placing hadiths next to the word of Allah. This ummah is divided into sects and all because of false stories idolizing what Muhammad said. The only Hadith that is real is Quran.

[@spreadtheword2066]

Bring some real muslim scholars into these debates instead of debating with people who don't have as much of knowledge as scholars.

[@ideologicduck]

Have you ever listened to Muslim scholars, they’re more hard line than any of these people. They preach nothing but hatred of non Muslims. I mean just look at all the gays in Saudi Arabia smh.

[@spreadtheword2066]

​@123dont tryme Not all are selfish. If you look at their lifestyles, you can see that they don't live lavishly. They live with the fear of god.

[@spreadtheword2066]

@@ideologicduck I dont know who you watch, but muslim scholars are god fearing. They never preach hatred. You think they are harsh because the bring solid proof while others just push their opinion.

[@kamyou9851]

Right boss

[@faisalrahmat9114]

Yap... Dr. Zakir Naik will be best choice

[@evelynmillies671]

simple answer:No. advanced answer:No you can't.

[@mammysassahconteh7596]

You answer is so cool 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@thehonesttruth415]

yes they can. how does that bother you

[@mammysassahconteh7596]

@@thehonesttruth415 because they are muslims and they can not be gays.

[@thehonesttruth415]

@@mammysassahconteh7596 gay is not a religion. they are born that way. proven by scientist.

[@mammysassahconteh7596]

@@thehonesttruth415 some of these scientists don't believe in God, so tell me, how can they do things that's pleases God the most high? I don't know what's your religion, but if you are a Christian you will surely fine verses that talked about how God destroys a whole town because of gay so how can someone who claims to believe in God and acts like this or even support them? These stories in the Holy books are not there for bed night stories but for us to learn them acts upon them so that we can get closer to God. The honest truth, Islam forbids gay so we can not support them, there is a saying in Islam which says don't hate the one that sins rather hate the sin. We don't hate them but the life style of them I hope you understand this.

[@suspectby1]

The girl killed it 😂😂😂😂 "don't get involve in this"

[@notthefather3919]

Criss Redfield she killed any hope of making her religion look tolerant

[@Kopp203]

Not really, Islam is famous for being intolerant (of pretty much everything) there's no redeeming it without massive reformation, but she did make a valid point: You can't choose not to be gay, you're born that way, but you can, if you feel the call to Faith, choose your religion, so why choose one where your sexuality is deeply offensive and forbidden? Seems like sado-masochism to me.

[@Aeroldoth3]

*why choose one where your sexuality is deeply offensive and forbidden?* Because he was raised AS a muslim from before he could think. It's deeply ingrained as a core part of him. He's a cultural muslim. Trying to deprogram people and break them free from childhood brainwashing and indoctrination is EXTREMELY difficult, if not impossible. It's why I'm strongly opposed to parents raising their kids AS a theist. Religion is something you should shelter children from until they're old enough to think and decide for themselves.

[@arpitshukla2981]

Because even leaving Islam can lead to social isolation and death. It's very easy for you and me to give advice. The people who are facing this are really screwed.

[@religionofpeace9248]

Kopp203 : so based on that girl's point,,shouldnt this liberty be given to everyone born on the earth. Inside or outside muslim community. Then why is there mass forceful conversion to Islam.. then why death sentence to those who want to leave Islam and this is as per their sharia law...shouldnt everybody given choice!!

[@Dan-2025]

What is Haram is haram. End of story

[@munemm8319]

What is haram is haram even if everyone's doing it

[@tintinismybelgian]

Can someone be an alcoholic and be a Muslim?

[@nexu6517]

@NONYA Business Yes in certain situation. 'Love' is haram when you engage in sex outside of marriage. Similarly, 'love' is haram if you express that with a person of similar gender. Dont sugar coat things hun.

[@Dan-2025]

Yacine it’s not allowed in Islam and is haram. That’s all.

[@Dan-2025]

Yacine and my Religion is a beautiful religion. God sent us the holy Quran to guide us to the straight path. God had prohibited us to do wrong deeds.

[@zinebelmouakit3368]

1. a real Muslim would not come at you for being gay or ask you to not be Muslim anymore, 2. as Muslims we believe that all people are born with " الفطرة الإسلام" and parents either makes him Christian, Jew ... , this means even if you are born "Gay" it can be changed specially if it conflicts with your religion 3. Allah does not create a person in a way that is already forbidden in the Quran 4. a sin is a sin and we are all sinners in different levels, but we don't say it's okay to be it (from lying to killing) in the contrary, we pray god to forgive us and to lead us to the right path. 5. you can be who ever you wanna be and as a true Muslim i won't judge you and i will treat you as any other human being in this earth but don't ask us to twist the Quran in alignment with your choices

[@riazkhan7449]

Oh wow!!!! I am at a loss for words...

[@disheswithdavid3848]

All religions are hypocritical

[@faisalismail1663]

@@disheswithdavid3848 all atheists are intolerant

[@disheswithdavid3848]

Faisal Ismail who said I’m atheist?

[@faisalismail1663]

@@disheswithdavid3848 All agnostics are annoyingly indecisive and smug about it. Do the splinters in your arse hurt from that fence you're sitting on?

[@kavita2937]

When will it be legal to break the law?

[@user-sv3os6lx9e]

I would tell you. When you take off the picture that you have in you profile 😑

[@chief4755]

@@user-sv3os6lx9e 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@daringwrinchester]

Maybe all the time? Look no further than the late 20th century where the UK abolished the criminality associated with homosexual acts. But maybe you don't agree with that. Fine - what about the abolishment of slavery? Minimum age to work? Minimum pay? Abolishment of segregation based on race? Women allowed to drive in Saudi? Laws change, and even when they do exist, there is certainly room to navigate, debate and change. That's why we have courts and systems of justice. Sure it's not legal to break the law, but that doesn't mean we can't change it if the collective judgment provides a convincing argument against it. The inability to rationalise and accept the fact that humans will inevitably continue to develop new perspectives is the root cause of conventional islamic notions' incompatibility with the modern world. On the flip side, not all "new perspectives" are always justified in the modern world. This is the reason why we need to have more rational and logic driven debate, instead of a one-size fits all rule for all time, regardless if you are religious or not. The more you understand philosophy and utilise critical thinking, instead of just blatantly accept what you were 'taught', the more you can appreciate what religion truly is.

[@islamicsensei]

Hahahahah

[@Ubearer]

@@daringwrinchester absolutely not the same. Laws are open to change and are dynamic, religion is not that. Hence why laws can be changed with the time as they are man made, whereas religion is from God, hence is not dynamic (by order of the humans) because God is perfect and we are imperfect, hence we cannot change religious laws like we can laws of a country

[@leulkiese]

Yeah you can be gay and Muslim, just not in a Muslim country, weird huh?

[@xaviisrael2609]

Very sharp

[@britbong1457]

We're turning into a Muslim country though to be honest. The amount of fucking mosques in London is unrealistic lol

[@britbong1457]

+OsamaBinWeavel The3rd unreal*

[@britbong1457]

+Juan .Direction sure thing bud

[@Jalanski28]

and muslims say islam is a religion of tolerance. plz. don't say such a thing. it is a mockery of reality and nature of things. your words are inconsistent with your action. it's a shame. Action speaks louder than words.

[@ismailowino2866]

So because your dad and mum have accepted your deviancy,so Islam should bend to your desires?inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajiun.

[@tahmed289]

Ismail Owino mashallah

[@munemm8319]

Ismail Owino to Allah we belong and to him we shall return

[@munemm8319]

Irishtradchannel LOOOOL so ur just going to make lies on the spot, atleast use ur brain when u like tf

[@munemm8319]

Irishtradchannel Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) married Ayesha the thing is they never had any sexual contact, it was an arranged marraige that anyone would be grateful to have but never where did they live together until she grew up and even then he didnt have sexual contact with her so get ur facts str8

[@_immie_6629]

@pleznt808 Go wash your mouth with soap😒

[@haninshah3303]

"I aM nOt HeRe To TaLk AbOuT tHaT oNe AyAt, I aM hErE tO tAlK aBoUt LoVe"

[@ayyylmao101]

DYING

[@bilalsyed5310]

lol

[@thisisspartaaa4346]

Hahahahahahahahahs

[@theuncausedcause5780]

Yeah, me, as an necrophile and into beastiality, I have question for society, when will be ok for me to come out of the closet and spread love openly hmm? It's all about love! I love the dead bodies I have sex with and I love the animals I boink. We live in the 21st century afterall. Naudubilah.

[@azaankiani6831]

@@theuncausedcause5780 I really not sure if u r being sarcastic or not

[@eyeswideopen5582]

When will people quit bending and twisting God’s laws to suit themselves and begin abiding by God’s laws? If God wanted us to live by our own laws and rules then He wouldn’t have outlined His own!

[@user-ui9nj3dj4u]

You think god wrote the law? Lolol

[@imranshamezai2522]

There's no such thing exists your imaginary friend is not real.

[@ahmeddjama7576]

That's true, can't argue with that God made us to obey him not to be LGBTQ

[@eyeswideopen5582]

boiioiiioiioiioiioiioii 007 exactly right

[@nananalala1]

Haram always be Haram The End

[@LordTenma]

Backward, unsophisticated, warmongering, women-hating, minority-hating, non-conformity hating religions always be backward, unsophisticated, warmongering, women-hating, minority-hating, non-conformity hating religions. The End

[@nananalala1]

LordTenma “Just looking in the mirror right now ,wearing hijab not gonna lie ! I am LOVING being a muslim . if i died then live again ,i always wanted being a muslim .You only learning ISLAM only in youtube,media ,news.just only talk shit about us .They all lying . We muslims knows better what is wrong what is good.No matter what u said to us ,i still love u .😘😘 💪🏼💪🏼 .

[@LordTenma]

Love Of kind my girlfriend and future wife is Muslim. And she's not my first relationship with a Muslim. I have a pretty good grasp of the ummah and your religion. Stop praising your religion, it doesn't deserve it.

[@adzriekunyu]

LordTenma well which part is it unworthy of praise?

[@adzriekunyu]

LordTenma please point out which part of the Koran refers to any of your assumptions please

[@mikledeepiklegaming7946]

Next week: “is it ok to be Christian and Atheist at the same time”.

[@redeemablesoul]

No

[@EscargoTouChaud]

Irrelevant comparison. A boy can be brought up in a muslim family and, like all others, adopt their attitudes and faith, believe in Allah and identify as muslim, and then find out he's gay. The fact that he's gay does not atomatically erase what he believes in. What do you have to say to that (if you can keep up with this mysterious thing called logical argumentation)?

[@David-wr8mm]

EscargoTouChaud it sure as hell will kill his ass

[@user-ze4yi6pe6b]

Albert Joseph well that’s just dumb

[@Johnqasgt]

EscargoTouChaud if you’re gonna embrace living as a gay, then choose NOT to be a muslim. What’s so hard about it? It’s like I go around the world and complain why me as a boy can join GIRLscout when it’s clearly stated that the rule is you need to be a girl to join it. See how stupid it is?

[@ZainabZehra786]

This was one of the signs of the day of judgement. As a child I thought it was crazy that the world could change like that but now seeing Muslims having a debate about whether the sins of Prophet's Lut's Nation can be made acceptable is scary.

[@silverkitty2503]

I am waiting until we see this in saudi ..until the saudi royal family is attending gay pride .....i tell you its going to happen!

[@mathgirl123400]

More power to these two muslim ladies who stood tall for the Hukam of Allah swt and did not fear the mockery and animosity of the opposite side. May Allah swt grant them istaqamat and be pleased with them

[@mmohammed9830]

Ameen

[@ArchyP]

Animosity? I think you'll find that the animosity you speak of came only from the Muslim speakers.

[@lenwilkinson672]

@@ArchyPWhilst there are gullible fools that believe in mythological gods,there will always be strife,as each religion claims they are the true one.There is no proof,nor is there ever likely to be any proof of mythological gods.

[@kazamify]

That poll was the stupidest ever. What right do non Muslims watching the show have in saying it is OK for a Muslim to be gay? Ridiculous. May Allah reward the brother (Abdullah al Andalusi) and the 2 sisters that spoke and defended Islam.

[@takewhole]

I think Islam is very clear on the homosexuality. You can do your best to water the religion down as much as you like but Islam is not like christianity, the religion and its followers will maintain the status quo. Majid Nawaz is wrong about slavery. The Quran and the hadith make it explicitly clear that slavery is to be abolished and promotes the freeing of those in slavery over and over again.

[@changomajuma9841]

I can't agree less

[@vaneeza5279]

Gay muslims will know every story in the quran except from the story of lut 😭🤣

[@zulvanzhao7645]

the crowds are hilarious, boos and claps for the same person. 😂

[@cherylno583]

well yes people have different views and if you're referring to the community leader they were annoyed cus he didn't answer the question properly, but once he gave his answer, they liked it.

[@Leviathan123456]

"im gay and a muslim" im a lesbian and christian" as an atheist that just makes me cringe! thats an oxymoron! you're contradicting yourself every walking day by doing so the bible and the quran make their feeling clear about homosexuality. will god let you have a gay relationship in heaven?! i doubt it

[@mercygraceful4924]

Thank u!!! Little do these Homosexuals realise this discussions seems like more of a propaganda being played out to exploit them rather than help them gain acceptance

[@Yourmomazz]

Tee Tee In no way form or shape did i mention all muslims. What i did was point out the ones that, either lie regarding discrimination against homosexuality, or the ones that are openly discriminating. I have no problem in pointing out corruption, regardless of where it comes from. But i dont see how that would excuse the behaviour i just mentioned.

[@mercygraceful4924]

***** You made a good point, especially about religious people hypocritical attitude, I was having a discussion with ministry members about child molestation neglected cases that happen in the church why some church Christians shy away from this subject, some even turning a blind eye to abuse that happens, so I agree Muslim should actually help those who feel rejected and sympathise with them but people don't have to take part in something because its popular, some Christians won't drink or go to the club that doesn't make them stuck up

[@Yourmomazz]

Tee Tee Indeed. And its so easy to point out the stupidity aswell. Anyone who defends the islamic word against homosexuality, because they claim you cant cherry pick, or interpret the doctrine, would allso have to say that sexual intercourse with 9 year olds is fine in Islam. The perfect muslim, Muhammad did just that. Muslims who actually thinks thats okay, just proves Steven Weinbergs famous quote. "To get otherwise good people to do evil things, you need religion".

[@mercygraceful4924]

***** You just mentioned 'Religions' are pretty hypocritical, another thing is the Muslilms who are homophobic should look at other issues such as why a women has to be covered yet they can wear as they please, I wonder why people still don't change after being confronted with facts.

[@TBTPower8]

The answer is no.u can't b a gay and Muslim at the same time u either chose 1 or the other.

[@purplespark8]

I'm a Muslim. But it's quite stupid to say that. We as humans aren't capable of judging anyone. As a Muslim it is my duty to tell that person that what he's doing is wrong, but not to tell him that he's not a Muslim. Even if he is gay by birth, it's fine as long as he doesn't get into the act. The point is that a sinner should accept that what he's doing is a sin, rather than ask others to accept it within the religion

[@vanillaggl]

we could be anything and also being Muslim. and God gonna judge how good or bad Muslims we are. if we keep pushing people like that. the Muslim community is gonna decrease.

[@czarzenana5125]

Can you live in England and discriminate gays at the same time? Should you not chose one or the other in that case as well?

[@sam_989]

No, you can't be just one or the other. You can be both. Do not discourage people from Islam for that is a grave sin. If you're a gay muslim who acts on his desires then you are committing a grave sin but you are STILL muslim. Repent and ask for Allah's forgiveness. The worst thing to do is leave Islam.

[@czarzenana5125]

What will happen if you do leave Islam? Should you be punished? You are teaching people they will be punished, if not stoned to death then at least by Allah. That doesn't sound as a free choice to me. IMO leaving Islam, or any other religion, is the most sane thing to do. There is not a shred of evidence for any supernatural being, let alone a being that demands you to live by the rules made up by other humans in his name.

[@hiboabdi8718]

U should have brought a sheikh there

[@ninalondon8292]

@hibo abdi exactly! sheikh haitham al haddad preferably!!!!!

[@killerqueen4229]

Hell no

[@lavish_1717]

Sheikh Farhan Bin Malik

[@ahmeddjama7576]

I'm actually the son of a shaykh

[@uwucookiequeen4286]

exactlyyy omgg

[@OmarMohamed-xg7kh]

19:30 “it doesn’t say in the Quran that it’s prohibited” 19:38 “I’m not here to talk about that one ayah (verse)” 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[@sharjeelahmed1051]

@Subarashii Ningen I disagree. He literally said "I'm not here to talk about that one ayah" which is literally proof that it's not allowed to be gay in Islam.. so him rejecting the proof makes him lose the argument

[@sharjeelahmed1051]

@Subarashii Ningen when the woman Gave her point about Islam prohibiting sexual intercourse between the same gender, Asif said he doesn't care about the ayah.

[@BluesRockAcademy]

@I.F.A so, you’re basically admitting that your religion is homophobic.

[@BluesRockAcademy]

@I.F.A if you say that same sex intercourse is sinful, then you are admitting that you god is homophobic.

[@daanyaalkhan2687]

you don't know what you are on about

[@mohammadnasirnabi730]

I could sit there and just sniff, and still the audience will clap.

[@vividhkothari1]

Those girls are right actually. It's just isn't allowed if we go by Islamic text.

[@servantofallah8029]

Thank you for standing up for Islam! :D

[@servantofallah8029]

Vithushanan Karunakaran Stop talking

[@fraddi]

Well IF we go by Islamic text, then those girl shouldnt be allowed to speak to begin with

[@servantofallah8029]

Hugh Jazz That's just something overly strict Muslims follow.

[@samarghuneim2663]

If it says it un the text then we should follow it

[@castle4328]

I didn't want the conversation to end

[@humbleintellectual5295]

Massive respect for Abdullah Al Andalusi!

[@niboushama]

Actually you can be muslim and gay, but bear in mind it's a major sin in Islam It's not our job to exclude anyone from Islam because of their sins but at the same time you can't boast there and demand that the rules of Islam change to accord your own desires !

[@salifusadat3002]

@@abdallahibrahim8846 based on your argument, you and me both aren't Muslims since we're both sinners.

[@abdallahibrahim8846]

@@salifusadat3002 nope you're wrong i am not a sinner

[@abdallahibrahim8846]

@@salifusadat3002 I did some sins but I am trying to correct them

[@salifusadat3002]

@@abdallahibrahim8846 you did "some" sins but you're not a sinner. How convenient for you to say. Let me ask you this question, will u ever engage in same sex act? If no then why do you think someone will deliberately choose to be gay?

[@salifusadat3002]

@@abdallahibrahim8846 I do pray and hope you correct your sins by apologizing to the one you've wronged or ask for forgiveness if it is only between you and Allah.

[@ahmedalsukaiti3446]

I love when i see non-Muslims start talking about Islam like they know what it is and they start changing it for their taste I didn't think that this comment will blow up like that and i want to clarify that if you want to be gay go and be like you want but don't say that you are doing nothing wrong and Islam didn't say anything about being gay like if you were in a community and they have specific rules and you break one of the rules and say to them i didn't do anything wrong

[@WallahHabibi2023]

I love when straight people start talking about homosexuality like they know what it is and they start changing it for their taste

[@Waterbug1591]

I love when i see Muslims start talking about Islam like it is a religion of peace and they start ignoring the perverted verses changing it for their taste.

[@AA-ew9qf]

@@WallahHabibi2023 I love it when non-muslims think being gay can outright only be talked about by gay people.

[@ruthrk9877]

So if someone does not beat his wife for disobeying him, he is not a true Muslim by your logic?

[@ahmedalsukaiti3446]

@@ruthrk9877 wtf?! True Muslims won't beat their wives because Islam denied any harm for someone who did nothing

[@adammiller1122]

Abdalla was trying to explain them what's mainstream Islamic perspective on the topic, but his apponents didn't want to listen and preferred to stick to the misconceptions that suit their own agenda.

[@redx12ae33]

Indeed these people are Hypocrites

[@johnmoha1649]

I’m vegan . Why can’t I eat meat

[@appcreate9132]

Last time I checked Islam was established as a religion to counter the preachings of Christianity and Judaism, not to discriminate against homosexuality.

[@mrspoon6359]

Best replay ever 👍👍👍👍👍

[@hibohassan4667]

john moha You are vegan not a carnivore.

[@JN-bq9wu]

Thats one sensible comment

[@MrsZambezi]

@@thenomadiclife7810 It's just Judaism (bullshit) with added barbarism.

[@Naddie2024]

You just can’t mate!! You either be gay or Muslim, period! So what if we’re in “21 century” the religion doesn’t change from what it was 14 century ago.

[@liqritrs8391]

Naima Adde the religion was shite then, still fully it doesn’t change, and then we can all continuously hate all the Muslims for their disgusting backward beliefs. Keep it up Islam

[@nexu6517]

@@liqritrs8391 we're here for a proper debate and if you're not gonna put something even as slight as worthy of reading as a sentence from mein kampf, then piss off, you're not welcomed

[@ahmedripper6686]

That’s when you and your parents wanna please the cadans 😂😂😂 ion know why i said that but only a somali can get this

[@RaffTail]

As Muslims integrate into western countries, it will evolve. A hundred years ago it would've been unthinkable to be Christian and gay. Now there are entire denominations that accept gays and their relationships as part of the church. Islam will do the same as generations are born in the west and shaped by pluralistic/tolerant western values.

[@dartsandlapels]

Yeap religion doesn't change from 14 centuries ago, and that's including sex slaves, having sex with a 9 years old, killing of non believers and polygamy. Because the Holy is true until the end of time.

[@mosh1881]

Respect to the two sisters that had the courage to speak the truth!

[@peace9265]

Evry muslims should speak up for the truth instead of Minor numbers

[@djuj2121]

They just came and vomited.

[@dilan8589]

Lol this is pretty much the same as someone asking vegans to accept them as a vegan even though they eat meat

[@selaluoposisisiapapunpresi7982]

that vegan sinful

[@utilitymonster8267]

Delan, isn’t the difference that veganism has a formal definition, while muslim just means ‘one who submits to God’. I don’t think the Quran says: ‘if you’re gay you’re not muslim’.

[@ZeddTakashi]

Islam and the Quran is also a way of life, how does one submit? My following its teachings. But at any rate anyone can call themselves a muslim, even murderers and rapist, but then to tell other muslims to accept them as the norm is a whole other story.

[@kimcarson4219]

@@utilitymonster8267 And i don't think any other religions allow gay

[@johnvalley1828]

I just laugh when i hear people answer all question that we are in the 21 century 😂

[@ebyan1954]

Next on BBC 3 FreeSpeech:Is it ok to be a Jewish and a Nazi?

[@adamharrisakarexon9492]

Is it okay to be Jewish Zionist and human? NO!

[@leoruth1208]

Yes, his name is Milo Yiannopoulos. He's a far-right gay christian Jewish and identifies himself as an American libertarian.

[@DocRealTalk]

+ Kyle Smit You can't "interpret" everything about a religion. You can't interpret Hinduism without karma for example. Or you can't interpret Jewdaism without the ten commandments.

[@samuelvimes7686]

Or can I be muslim and be tolerant to basic human rights?

[@sarahibrahim7004]

naybe LMFAOOO u literally made my day ty

[@hoasjhdfiadsf]

"no religion is about hate. it's about love" WHAT BULLSHIT.

[@notthefather3919]

TwitchDoctr T dumb ass, why would he quote the entire video? People quote portions to make a point. Butthurt alert.

[@mahfuzhasan576]

Bravo Bruckner says the hateful man.

[@sidvishnu8813]

i hate religion!

[@teedeeellicott5716]

Fatos Zulfiu intelligent people agree

[@chutrra]

Teedee Ellicott agree on what ?

[@Tomatofury]

The African Guy had the best response

[@k.o.5666]

Well.. But being Muslim is not really a choice as well... You are born into a family which usually has a Religion and will force that religion onto their child. So sure you can stop believing and it therefore might be a choice, but this makes the whole issue much more complicated.

[@themercifulguard3971]

@@k.o.5666 To be fair the moment a human being is born into the world, he is inevitably institutionalized into the environment and norms of the place he is born in. You can't change this concept at all. The moment this human grows up and becomes aware as he/she enters adolescence and adulthood is where the game starts

[@k.o.5666]

@@themercifulguard3971 somehow yh, but your still heavily influenced by your childhood. Its not that once you turn 17 or so you start at 0 again and become who you want to be.

[@themercifulguard3971]

@@k.o.5666 Well yeah obviously. That's why we should promote critical thinking regardless of what values your nation promotes. Cuz at least you can have people who search for truth genuinely

[@k.o.5666]

@@themercifulguard3971 well put!

[@MuslimArtist]

The best point was that you cant bend the rules in Islam to fit your needs and then try getting everyone to accept and follow that aswell. Doesn't work that way mate. The guys a lost soul 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@lavish_1717]

Muslim Artist Don’t call him a “lost soul” AstighfirAllah! You should guard your tongue. He could be prayed for

[@mortalorb4524]

Shut up you murtad. He is a lost soul who sells his religion for money.

[@ITSAULGONE]

If souls exist then so does Santa claus and the Easter bunny.

[@mortalorb4524]

@@ITSAULGONE so your dumbass is telling me that you don't have consciousness? Please enlighten me on what consciousness is.

[@wakeup5943]

Muslim Artist but you bend the rules all the time you follow hadiths and identify yourself as a specific Muslim based on hadiths which were written 300 years after our prophet. You call yourself Sunni or Shia or salafi or wahabbi etc... based on hadiths and not Quran. This is fact. You identity as a Muslim is based on what Hadith you believe in which hadiths were written 300 years after the prophet. You follow hearsay and idolize these stories and men who wrote them hundreds of years after Quran which is what we believe is Allah’s message. You go to an iman instead of reading the Quran yourself. You bend the rules and you and millions of Muslims are divided because of these hadiths. Don’t you see ? Don’t you hear? Don’t you understand? Read Quran brother wake up

[@xqfcoolboyfanpage7314]

It is like saying can you be Muslim and ex-muslim at the same time 😂😂😂 debate me

[@Journal_Haris]

You can choose to be gay and be a muslim its just like saying you are a sinful muslim but you are still a muslim its like being a muslim but you listen to music which isnt allowed in islam.its a major sin to be gay but youre still are a muslim but however in islam if you believe the rules that say you cant be gay isnt true then you are on the verge of not being muslim if you are gay and muslim and you accept that you arnt supposed to be gay you're better than someone who is gay but denies it being prohibited however the 1st person is someone called a fasik = sinner he sins but is 100% still a muslim but a not so good one

[@legit_me_myself]

Homosexuality was a main reason why the whole community of prophet lut

[@caafiaxmed]

Haris-T3 hey, sorry i felt commenting on ur comment. Basically when a muslim person listens to music they know they sinning, hence they dont beome disbeliver. but if they say music is not haram, they directly going against the word of god which makes them a disbeliever, so if ur gay for example and u know its prohibited in islam, ur best option is to keep it to urself and keep practising the religion, but if u say i am gay n i wanna be accepted n arguing its halal, u going directly against the word of god which makes u a disbliever cuz u challenging his authority becuz he clearly stated in the quran its prohibited. I feel sorry for that poor Asif guy but he knows its wrong and he was avoiding to talk about it when that hijab girl quoted the verse in the quran.he said ' i am not here to talk about that' So yeah its all about following the teaches n if u sin, dont be proud of it Peace to u brother

[@Journal_Haris]

@@caafiaxmed AYYYY couldn't have worded it better

[@Journal_Haris]

@Sleep Walker explains why you chose your name sleep walker 🤣 it makes sense to the rest of the sane and right in the head people here, they may not agree but it makes sense to them

[@stratocaster1986able]

The 7th century called.......they want their morals back

[@dankpotato7817]

21st century is offended.

[@beast1elsayeda]

Sub ZerO lol

[@samuelvimes7686]

You could also say current day Saudi Arabia, which still appears to be stuck in the 7th century (although granted, they closed the last slave markets 50 years ago so they've progressed to the 7.5th century since then)

[@ooyayo5841]

Samuel Vimes , they are living the way our Prophet (pbuh) lived and told us to live

[@giveryourall5413]

o oyayo I will buy you a ticket to live there.

[@tofiroyals7734]

Crowd boos then cheers the same person 10 seconds later lmaoooo

[@staffy1968]

Such a tolerant & straight talking bunch aren`t they

[@devkhokhar]

the only nonsense was in the room was Maajid, he talking about something he has no knowledge of. I must say Salaam to brother Abdullah and other two sisters... this is endless fight for Islam and we need to be keep fighting...

[@poochakutti1936]

Why is a panel of non-muslims asked the question 'Can you be muslim and gay?' That is outrageously stupid

[@poochakutti1936]

***** That makes sense

[@Kopp203]

It's BBC pro-Muslim propoganda. ISIS aren't chucking gays off buildings with their hands tied for lolz, they're doing it because Allah commands it. This is just deflection and an attempt to promote "moderate" Islam, when western Wahabbi Islam is anything but moderate. There is no such thing as moderate Islam. The entire political_ideology_that_masquerades_as_a_religion is about all about oppression, death, slavery and regression to antiquated beliefs and ways of life.

[@samiahmed7658]

I felt very disrespected when that catholic men said that Islam is all about rules and no love. I respect you as a Catholic and I don't judge you and your belief but when you said it has nothing to do with love but rules, I felt disrespected. I love allah and his messenger and I will follow all my rules and love God, I love God and Islam has everything to do with love as well, no one is forcing you to do anything. That guy guy can be guy but he has to admit that he is committing a sin and that on the day of judgment he will have to answer allah why he committed that sin. I respect catholic people or any religion rules but Please think before you say anything about other people religions.

[@liouting]

Sami ahmed he doesn’t represent us Christian, he can speak for himself. In Christianity it’s the same, it’s wrong and people are trying to cherry pick.

[@davidregi7571]

Islam is about killing the infidels

[@petrabonnie]

@@davidregi7571 did fox news taught you this?😂😂

[@Me4003]

We are all sinners but what is Haram is Haram which is why Allah says we should ask for forgiveness when we sin. If you are gay be gay but forcing us to say being gay is allow is just wrong.

[@jammy2003]

It is NOT mandatory in Islam for women to cover your face.

[@adj9271]

Jammy No.

[@jammy2003]

Read the Quran first, then reply.

[@Irishtradchannel]

The veil was worn by Prostitutes in early Arabic society, many of whom were among the wives of the first followers, the tradition stuck, as those prostitutes had children who followed the attire.

[@jammy2003]

So anything that prostitutes does are bad? They breathe - should we stop breathing? They eat - should we stop eating then? Also prostitutes are human being as well. I don't judge them. At least they are minding their own business and making money, instead of you doing nothing like you (and me) and commenting here.

[@jammy2003]

Islam is a religion, not a country ;)

[@fedyno4reviews]

Hitchens would've steamrolled this whole debate R.I.P.

[@Hekat1988]

lol true, I do miss that brilliantly silver tongued bastard xD I really do need to remember to pour out a glass of johnny walker black label next April 13th ^_^

[@davidvanvranken1595]

You do realize the irony of R.I.P. for Hitchens, right?

[@fedyno4reviews]

rest in peace doesn't need to have religous connotation dipshit it just means let him be dead and not have people trample over his name

[@missesrobot8182]

His body is resting after decades of working to keep him alive, so RIP does fit atheists too.

[@jmckenna123]

I'll join you in that: April 13 = Christopher Hitchens day celebrated with a glass of Johnny Walker black label in the late evening.

[@SillyTubereal]

If Allah says something is immoral, then IT IS immoral!! It's one thing to sin and keep it secret, but to celebrate sin?

[@adamnassor5450]

Seriously we really live in the end of times Cause the prophet (pbu) said that '' from my ummah there will be people who will change my way and the things that are unlawful, people will make it lawful''. What I could say that' If u want to be gay, be gay, if u want to call yourself a Muslim and gay well, you call that for yourself but not for us muslims to accept homesexuality in our religion What we muslims do is warn you, and other that it's between you and Allah

[@doby629]

so the only thing we should do right now is to pray for them, 'cause we can't change them but allah, you are right ya akhi our job is to warn them and pray to allah may allah bless you with a lot of knowledege🙏🙏🙏

[@adamnassor5450]

@@doby629 It is true that we pray for them But to be honest, the Muslims today they try to midguide themselves to be honest! Where it remind me of the verse in the Quran : whoever Allah guides none can misguid, and whoever Allah doesn't guide, none can guide. We pray for the ummah to be strong and in one community for the sake of Allah and prophet Muhammad (Saw).

[@doby629]

@@adamnassor5450 mashaallah👍👍

[@doby629]

@@adamnassor5450 @az freestyle it's just the matter of time, inshaallah allah will guide our brother to the right path, just don't lose your hope keep praying for our brother🙏😀

[@adamnassor5450]

@@doby629 Ameen 😊

[@oscargalate4838]

this is so dumb! you cant choose to be attracted to the same gender aka homosexual but you can choose your religion. so just leave it!

[@ThePerfect1077]

they r talking about having gay sex not being gay ffs. if they all accepted the difference this debate woulda moved along a lot faster

[@oscargalate4838]

ThePerfect1077 I was referring to the gay muslim, obviously. Not everyone who participated in the debate.

[@ThePerfect1077]

yh ik. But the point is that none of them would have had a problem if he said he was a Muslim and refrained from sex.

[@ThePerfect1077]

Mrigank when i said "them" i'm talking about the ppl in the audience -.-

[@mrigank8822]

ThePerfect1077 I'm not targeting you but the original comment, it was the KZbin app problen

[@galaxy5am987]

I have enormous respect for Abdullah and how he deals with pseudo intellectuals like majid.

[@sam-tu5bk]

23:53 jilbabs don’t cover your face. I have one an it’s just the long abaya (gown) that goes from head to toe. burkas cover your face.

[@ScrambleBandOfficial]

He said ''for not covering your face AND for not wearing the jilbab'' Two separate things.

[@TheMpofu]

That woman with the head scarf was savage lol she told Louisa " don't get involved in this" LOOL

[@babdullah5025]

This life is not a joke but a test, you'll see with your own eyes one day.

[@hurijael-karim5950]

Yeah.. i Always say that, no need for discussions

[@naimaellouzi2102]

and that day is so close but they do not know ! they think they can discuss God's orders! how they are ignorant ?

[@TheMatchReview]

@@naimaellouzi2102 "and that day is close" ...what else is your magic ball telling you?

[@samiahmed7658]

I agree with you that you 100%. Life is not a joke it is a test, which will either bring you good or bad

[@nibsvkh]

Why are you waiting to meet your "god"?

[@cjar1981]

so if im baking a cake ..and go by own interpretation and not follow the recipe and use salt instead of sugar, cement instead of flour, somehow im supposed to get a delicious yummy dessert??

[@hoffen8215]

I've done that before

[@fader1912]

Maajid nawaaz is not who i want to represent my community (muslim)

[@noraschultz689]

Y j.t I suspect he’s not a Sunni Muslim but a Shiitte...

[@aliendude9319]

NO!!! You cant be GAY! It is HARAM!! READ THE STORY OF LUT (A.S)

[@shazadimunaza3395]

EXACTLY, THANK U! :)

[@theghost449]

EXACTLY , THANK YOU .

[@shazadimunaza3395]

No offence but your offending me shut up ;)

[@alialgburi5202]

@Sinjin Smythe buddy do you know how to spell *Muslim*

[@mohaissah2035]

Gay means qawmu lut

[@ZCoreStudio]

in all honesty ... the Muslims are the only people who can vote in this topic have a none Muslims change something in Islam religion? gay and Muslim ? we all know it not possible edit: also, the first woman with hijab 18:08 did demolish his argument and they didn't let her finished and all he got to say is some pretty happy fairy tail words

[@zerohour2703]

its like saying i want to be a fish but also fly like a bird dude choose a path.

[@miyazakilulu6657]

...I don't think anybody is abiding 100% to any religious book though

[@sakide6279]

ZCore Studio I agree they can’t just say in the Quran it says slavery was ok, but we are Muslims we know more about our religion than they do. You can’t just change something about our religion because you feel like it

[@EscargoTouChaud]

Is it impossible to believe in Allah, having been socialised into muslim culture and being gay? - Yes. Is it up to you to decide what others identify as? - No.

[@sakide6279]

@@EscargoTouChaud we are not changing his identity by choice, he can be Muslim and believe in homosexuality. But his question is "will the Muslim religion allow homosexuality?", and that is a no.. Mostly because the Muslim community does not believe in homosexuality.. And we are stating that being both is a sin in the Muslim religion.

[@robertmcelwaine7024]

The young woman who says that anyone gay chooses to be Muslim needs to get her head examined. Because a lot of people don't choose to be born into the culture or religious background they're born to. They don't get that choice, whether they turn their back on the Muslim faith or not.

[@SillyTubereal]

If being gay isn't about sex then what makes it different than 2 guy friends?

[@khalifamasud3651]

The Prophet (PBUH) said: there will come a time where you will see much differing, when this happens, hold on to my Sunnah (path or way of life) and the Sunnah of my companions. because every innovation is misguidance, and every misguidance leads to the hellfire. The reason these topics are coming up is that Muslims are not studying and following their religion anymore. The creator is the one who knows what is best for us as he created us. The same way if i created a car, i would know what its purpose is and what it has to do more than the car. we do not have the right to set our own standards. The only way to success is to follow the quran and the Sunnah the way the prophet and his companions did. Then, by allahs mercy we will enter paradise inshallah

[@ianreed7605]

Khalifa Mas'ud Peace be upon him. Didn’t take long to write

[@Irishtradchannel]

SO YOU BELIEVE THE SUN SETS IN A POOL OF MUD.

[@rafekr6821]

what are you talking about?

[@rizwangillani4987]

Khalifa masud why have u got that haraam terrorist flag. Shame on u

[@rafekr6821]

what is haram about it it just has the shahadah on it?

[@SokarEntertainment]

Even I have read enough of the Qu'ran, to know that homosexuality is forbidden. I don't even understand how this is a debate. If you believe that the Qu'ran is the literal word of god, and he has forbidden homosexuality, how can expect others who believe that too, to accept you for as a muslim, for defying god? I'm an atheist, so I have no dog in that fight, but it seems pointless to start with to me.

[@abdishakurxabeeb9110]

+Sokar i appropriate your respect and that is why we say knowledge is power,you are open minded person who understands what is going around the world not the people whose takes what the media tells him .as Muslims if the gay/lesbian is non-Muslim Christian&Jews&atheist&Buddhism&hindusam its up to him whether he live a Muslim country or not and even we can not criticize him.thanks ones again

[@SokarEntertainment]

corsinivideos Religion needs to go as a whole mate :P But no the problem is, that only like what we tell ourselves, a large portion of moderate muslims, believe all the same things extremists believe, they just don't want to fight with violence to achieve it. They instead opt for standing by, and letting the islamists, both violent and non-violent, push for the changes for them.

[@raph2ael]

+Sokar Absolutely, this just makes no sense to me either, i would be shocked if it turned out most Muslims thought being Muslim and gay i ok. Being looked at the wrong way round completely, yes you were born gay and that cant be changed, you were born into a faith that opposes it, realize that its the faith that needs to be abandoned not the mainstream interpretation.

[@SokarEntertainment]

***** I haven't deleted that comment. Its right above you. Where do you see me saying I hate homosexuals? Considering I don't, I think it'll be hard for you to prove this :P Also what does the fact, that most modern feminists, multiculturists, and marxists are atheist, has to do with me thinking their ideas are toxic and harmful? All three ideologies promote bad ideas, and use bunk science to do it. Modern feminism and marxists using made up statistics, advocating for a; guilty until prove innocent, legal adaption, and multiculturists ignoring the harm being done in their country, because of their self hatred (Sweden is an excellent example). Worst of all, any criticism of their ideas, however rooted in science that criticism might be, is instant labeled misogynistic, racist, or offensive. They have no arguments, and use loaded words in order to avoid debate. Honest people change their minds in light of evidence, and modern feminists, multiculturists, and marxists, generally don't. As such I view them (for the most part) as dishonest groups, trying to push an harmful ideologies, the same way religion tries to push its ideology.

[@divxxx]

+Sokar The problem was the same in christianity. Christians have a lot of rules that they don't follow anymore because they changed the interpretation. Christians could not eat pork too, and christian women should wear a veil and should not be in a higher position than any man. But they changed their view on these things even if the book says otherwise. So the problem is always the interpretation. We can imagine a scale from "literal" to "metaphorical", and in the middle we can find a infinite number of shades of interpretation. Christians have fought for centuries about this stuff. Muslim are debating too, but I don't see any agreement about that. So we must admit that there are different interpretations of the Qu'ran. This leads to two possible endings: one idea prevails and muslims around the world will follow one and only one interpretation (literal or metaphorical, I cannot predict this), or they just give up, decide to split and to form mutiple "churches" and every single "church" will have its own interpretaion. In this last scenario I see the chance for a gay person to identify as muslim, because nobody will be able to forbid a "church" to read the Qu'ran in a very metaphorical way, enough to accept homosexuality. Until then, one can still call himself gay and muslim, but the word "muslim" contains people that are against homosexuality, and this person will not be accepted by other muslims. As an atheist I see this as a complete waste of time, that we could spend researching useful things like a cure to cancer or a solution to third world problems. But hey, religious people seem to have much fun debating about which god has the longer dick, I don't want to interrupt their amusement!

[@haninaman2651]

I don’t understand why they’re telling abdullah to not go of topic because what they’re talking about have a lot of points that will all connect in the end Tf??!!!!!

[@yam9195]

If Sheikh Uthman was here, everybody who agrees homosexuality should be accepted in Islam would've been destroyed in the debate.

[@humzaqureshi1391]

Sheikh Uthman would MURDER them lmaoo he'd send Majed to his grave

[@kosan2875]

'The world is about to end' *CLAP*

[@JoshuaHubbardmedia]

Where the hell did everyone get there hair done?

[@alexanderdemontfort3022]

+Joshua Hubbard lol

[@Suite_annamite]

+Joshua Hubbard Especially that hot Persian or Afghan looking lady in the red trousers.

[@DCandtheInsectobytez]

+Le Huy-Anh If you're referring to LUISA ZISSMAN... she's greek.

[@luismontes4364]

yeah wtf everyone's hair is on point and I'm sitting here with 3 front cowlicks unsure what to do

[@majorpremise]

+Joshua Hubbard Lol

[@mohammedkhan-fg8hk]

Its the 21st century, dosnt mean you can do everything

[@simanto7168]

right

[@RamakrishnanSRM]

You are right. So stop terrorism first.

[@ahmeddjama7576]

@@RamakrishnanSRM why u have to bring up terrorism

[@silsilaankabut7602]

And We had sent Lot when he said to his people, "Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the world's (people). Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people."

[@MelancholyMegan]

5:45 for the title of the video... your welcome

[@anon3196]

thanks mate

[@MrXclusivemoe]

that girl who told him the truth without beating around the bush deserves a standing ovation, masha allah may allah bless the sister for not fearing to speak the truth. in a Time of Universal Deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act-George Orwell

[@stanbily9416]

🤮

[@maquacr7014]

​@@stanbily9416This is me when I look at infidels.

[@ArchyP]

Except that her mannerism as a Muslim was disappointing. People like her is why people think Muslims are hateful and intolerant, because we don't know how to express ourselves without going off the deep end and ranting and raving instead of engaging in conversation civilly.

[@thl205]

Sharia-based governments are identical to what he warned about in 1984

[@lenwilkinson672]

@@maquacr7014. Infidels ! Violin players.?…

[@FPVzedsian]

We need those debates...

[@SabakuNoGaara2023]

I know Abdullah from previous videos and debates, when the KZbin algorithm showed me this video, I hoped I wouldn't be disappointed with his position, and I certainly was not. Not only he basically shares my position, he expressed it better than I could've. Abdullah keeps on impressing me, what a great model for Muslims 👏👏

[@joshuaharney1181]

I kinda wish progressive religious people, like Maajid Nawaz, would stop using "reinterpret" as a euphemism for "reject." They reject the tenents of the faith. Many progressive interpretations in several faiths seems extremely dishonest. Why can't the religious say "my holy book says this, and i reject it". That would gain them much more respect.

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

The core tenets of Islam say you can't reject it. You are no longer a Muslim is you reject the word of God.

[@SimpleReally]

Nawaz is friends with Sam Harris, tells you all you need to know about his honesty

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

@@SimpleReally So true. If Nawaz is actually rejecting core tenets of Islam and denying passages from the Quran then he's not a Muslim. "Reforming" Islam is like a direct contradiction to everything Islam stand for.

[@aesyahedrus4426]

Lol why fight and debate now. Just wait when they die then in the grave they realise then end of the world, they answer. Tada problem resolved. People will come up with any kind of excuse to justify what they want no matter whether the quran or god says it. It's just the way it is. Honestly saying that views are outdated is an extremely weak argument. It's not even a view it's a FACT. U cannot just change the rules.

[@markdonner6470]

>loling on why to fight over debate >goes on talking how this is a week argument

[@Paul2377]

aesyah Lol why not? We made the rules.

[@XYZ-kw7rj]

Yea thats why you guys dont progress. Never debating and trying to solve problems. Just wait for death

[@greatwarrior4795]

Paul2377 how about on the debate of why 53 years old Muhammad fucked 9 years old Aisha

[@layyyyy3540]

Aesyah. I totally agree .

[@sagegirl7236]

Am I only the one who saw this clip on tiktok and got here?

[@Vibestr]

i find it interesting how they distinguished actions w/ beliefs. But since one's beliefs could lead to certain actions, shouldn't we 'judge' beliefs as well?

[@brianlaudrupchannel]

The answer is you can be gay and call yourself a Muslim, but if you follow the Koran properly you cant be gay

[@besimkosoglu5899]

billyblackburn87 Can you show me where the word gay in the Quranbecause I can't find it.!

[@brianlaudrupchannel]

Wiaam Kosoglu The word gay is not in the Koran because no one spoke like that back then. But you cant be with a man if your a man.

[@besimkosoglu5899]

billyblackburn87 Who said about a man with a man? What been mentioned in the Quran is forbidden for every one, and not just gay people, thanks.!

[@brianlaudrupchannel]

Wiaam Kosoglu nice cop-out x

[@ishfaqrather2018]

I really respect that Muslim girl.... MASHA ALLAH...

[@TehNetherlands]

That's because you're a religious freak. You and the likes of you belong in the 7th century. It is one of the great tragedies of modern civilization that delusional religious freaks like you still walk this Earth.

[@eceacar1741]

Yeah hate is the biggest problem we both suffer from it. You are one of the biggest problems my sir

[@TehNetherlands]

Yes, the hate and intolerance in the Quran is a big problem. "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip." - quran.com/8/12 Surahs like these are the reason why I tell everyone that I know in life why they should not respect Islam. The intolerant and filthy garbage in the Quran has no place in modern society.

[@TehNetherlands]

That's the problem with the Quran: it doesn't change. Not even when it has long been shown to be incompatible with science. The Quran contains an erroneous description of the geometry of the planet(all translations of the Quran do, in fact; the Earth is an oblate spheroid, and the Quran gets it wrong), it contains descriptions of the origin of man that are not compatible with paleontological findings and genetics. (the Adam and Eve creation mythology could not possibly have been true due to the vast observed genetic diversity). The Quran contains truly bizarre interpretations of phenomenon like shooting stars, and rather laughable descriptions of certain aspects of human biology. But the real problem here is that Muslims like yourself refuse to learn about the real world because they believe the Quran tells them everything they need to know. This explains in part why Muslim majority societies are so underdeveloped and backward. I left my religion many years ago and I suggest you do the same. Get to know the real world, you won't regret it.

[@rubabfatima2511]

TehNetherlands "Know that the life of this world is only play and amusement, pomp and mutual boasting among you, and rivalry in respect of wealth and children, as the likeness of vegetation after rain, thereof the growth is pleasing to the tiller; afterwards it dries up and you see it turning yellow; then it becomes straw. But in the Hereafter (there is) a severe torment (for the disbelievers, evil-doers), and (there is) Forgiveness from Allah and (His) Good Pleasure (for the believers, good-doers), whereas the life of this world is only a deceiving enjoyment“. [57:20] QURAN

[@NoLoVeLoStNoLoVfOuNd]

That Muslim lady with the black and white scarf on, I’m proud of you. There was know other way to put that. I’d like to listen to her more, but I don’t have a name.

[@MrEneris]

You mean the one thats going against the rules of islam, sitting as a woman speaking infront of men, on TV, with her face showing. Oh,how wonderful to be able to pick one rule to dictate to someone and at the same time break several yourself😂😂😂

[@NoLoVeLoStNoLoVfOuNd]

Daniel Eneris Sandström Thats wahabi Muslims that call them selfs Muslims. I can say the same thing about Christians. She dresses just like mother Mary. Oh and just because you change your Bible around over 20 times doesn’t mean you’re any right.

[@yousz123123]

@@NoLoVeLoStNoLoVfOuNd Yup but you cant say the same thing about agnostics/atheists. IF, i repeat if, there is a greater power, everything a human has thought of is wrong. Rules are made by our own thoughts and not this greater power. Because why should your religion that has your sacred believes be more justified (by nothing) than other religions that perhaps even has more people believing in it. You live by a book written by humans, i have nothing against that but when other people suffer from your believes or get excluded (with no justification) by your believes that believe is dead wrong.

[@lavish_1717]

Joey She’s got tons of makeup on which is not even Islamic. She’s got double standards alright.

[@NoLoVeLoStNoLoVfOuNd]

Liyanna De Lioncourt oh really so you don’t have double standards???? Are you Christian or Catholic? Shouldn’t you be dressed up like mother Mary???? She didn’t have make up on, look at your pictures. You think that being a Christian or Catholic it’s ok? It’s not but!!! christians and Catholics change their Bibles to benefit them. So please stop you’re double standards yourself and start to dress like mother Mary did. As a Christian or catholic should do.

[@ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432]

The most ridiculous thing there might not be that "gay Muslim" whatever, it could be non-muslims expressing their opinions on how should muslims interpret their scripture.

[@nasrinaabdi3033]

First this show did wrong they didn't bring scholar because they know they will loss..... bring the best scholar ND U will get the best answer

[@zarahiqbal8826]

TEA!

[@Smolotov]

Nasrina Abdi Exactly

[@mohaz7519]

Satan is real...

[@shinobigamer1197]

It is real but don't believe in it you know what I am saying

[@shamsunrichard8976]

Satan is real and everyone knows that lol

[@mtraa.942]

It's real . *ONLY IN YOUR MIND*

[@greatwarrior4795]

Muhammad was a Satan

[@theghost449]

@@mtraa.942 I have a friend with the same name of yours

[@hartz9921]

I’m from an Ethnic minority and also a proud Muslim. Although I do believe police profiling is unfortunate it is backed by statistics. We can’t entirely blame police for picking out higher probabilities, however the the main issue is far greater than police profiling rather the problem is police profiling that is fuelled by deep rooted agendas and secondary socialisation that inevitably creates a subconscious mind that is more susceptible to racial biases. The wider society and government are more or less the ones that need to held accountable as ultimately they filter what and propagate what the mind is fed over sustained periods of time.

[@fazanahmed8641]

This is getting heated up 🤣🤣🤣

[@abrahimshageer4031]

The problem in this discussion is that there is no rightfully and properly educated Muslims that can hold there own with actual and proper facts.

[@BestonAb]

I was impressed by Abdullah al Andalusi and liked how he handled the very sensitive issue.

[@shahedali02]

First question Tim makes a great point. Can't just be like we all different, this and that, because police have to make snap decisions, in that context

[@drifter9777]

the english are a minority even on their own shows :P