Evidence Of Catastrophe That Ended An Ancient Civilisation | BBC Timestamp

[@BBCTimestamp]

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[@chipthomas4169]

The Aegean scholars now think there was a different disaster, maybe in Iceland, in 1628 BC, and that Thera was sometime later.

[@JohnHarrington-xh9gt]

The time of the Explosion of Thera!!!

[@JohnMacFergus-oz5cp]

Thank you BBC Time Stamp! Great doc in your classic style.

[@desmcharris]

The Island of Santorini is fantastic to visit. Take a snorkel just of the village of Io !!! It's a breath taking 2 km + shere drop off!! Great information here. Thankyou.

[@slappy8941]

*sheer

[@desmcharris]

It just drops so steep and fast it literally took my breath away!! Im an Open Water Diver , Advanced PADI. It's something else!

[@tgdomnemo5052]

Brilliant programm ! THANK YOU !! 🖖🏼

[@keithfarrell3370]

Thanks for the knowledge. I fear I'm about to go down a Thera rabbit hole....

[@BBCTimestamp]

Glad you enjoyed it! The history of Thera is fascinating 🌋

[@corinnecivish7673]

Old video. The volcano now considered responsible for the climate cooling was Mount Aniakchak in what is now Alaska. While Thera was indeed catastrophic to the Mediterranean at that time, it's believed its ash column didn't reach high enough into the atmosphere, to circulate globally.

[@johnmccallum8512]

@@corinnecivish7673 Yes it is an old video it is from a program that was on TV in 2001 23 years ago.

[@CGM_68]

@@corinnecivish7673 Thanks for that. The largest eruption is known as Aniakchak II and took place in 1628/1627 BCE. During this eruption, pyroclastic flows swept all the flanks of the volcano and caused a tsunami in Bristol Bay.

[@erinmac4750]

​@@CGM_68 Thank you both for the information. I wish our MSM outlets would spend more time on factual happenings and discoveries than political drama. The Bronze Age Collapse is something that historians and climatologists have been chewing on for awhile, and is relevant in its scale of the event.

[@jerrybowen2869]

Hmm. I've seen documentaries about unexplained mass migration, wars and social turmoil in 1300-1400BC. Maybe this is the root cause.

[@bruced1429]

Correct and times with the fall of the second dynasty of Egypt.

[@dadventuretv2538]

I won’t say it can’t be, but probably is not. The timing is wrong. It is 200-300 years too early. Remember that Ramses II’s battle of the Delta marking the end of the period was 1175 and the Hittite empire around 1190. Other than perhaps for the fall of Minion Crete to the Mycenaeans. You hypothesis was one long thought of as a possibility, but the data in this video has been known now since maybe the mid 90s/early 00s (Im terrible at knowing when anything in my life happened anymore), so Thera as the the cause of the downfall of the Bronze Age civilizations is probably not the root cause. Although the research does show crop shortage during the downfall period, so some type of environmental event probably either occurred or was occurring, just wasn’t the result of Thera.

[@allangibson8494]

Crete was directly devastated by the Thera blast tsunami. Cretian written records stop with that eruption and the writing system was lost.

[@peterdeisenhammer4750]

Numbers of seepeople grow during colder and also better farming years due to may vulcanic eruption. Flooding of Bosporus and drought forced the seepeople to migrate and war. s. North Africa es. Egypt and Israel

[@allangibson8494]

@ The Bosphorus flooded in about 5600BC - before Egypt EXISTED.

[@PaulRiley-ev9it]

this what the BBC is for!

[@zyxw2000]

Only 4 minutes 11 seconds for such a complex story?

[@openureyes]

Fantastic and amazing 👏

[@MaartenAnna]

Thera = current day Santorini, right?

[@slappy8941]

Yes

[@mariebaxter473]

Interesting and to the point,

[@BBCTimestamp]

Really glad you enjoyed the clip!

[@bardmadsen6956]

Professor Mike Baillie published some great books, this is good news for Thera. Space Falls also cause atmospheric loading, Impact Winters are the main causation of Solar Worship as they take away The Sun for long periods of time.

[@philliprobinson7724]

Hi Bard. Good observation. A volcanic event probably caused the 536AD black-out, I wonder if there was a resurgence of Mithraism? Cheers, P.R.

[@bardmadsen6956]

@@philliprobinson7724 I'm not sure, in Mike's books he leans to space fall, then he changed his mind to volcanic, but the Arthur legend is about astral causation alike Hathor of Egypt, I'm in the Taurids camp. Tauroctony is without doubt about The Taurid Meteor Stream with the placement of the blade at the shoulder, which is The Pleiades, the radiant. In Gobekli Tepe, under Pillar 18, is a row of seven birds, the symbol of The Pleiades. There is another clear example at a sister site of two Auroch scapula placed over a grave and it is said that Isis and Nefertari each hold bovine shoulder blades at each side of the same star cluster. I can go on and on with examples of our most recent inner solar system space debris. See my work. Virtually every anciently derived tradition has a deity from The Pleiades, mostly angry fiery ones.

[@bardmadsen6956]

@@philliprobinson7724 Tauoctony is about The Taurid Meteor Stream. Someone didn't like the other post. It think Thera was caused by the rising sea level, BTW.

[@philliprobinson7724]

@@bardmadsen6956 Hi. Thanks for that, cheers, P.R.

[@gregoryallen6816]

Aye, fabulous presentation!

[@billstream1974]

We have no idea. We cant even agree on the Younger Dryas events 12800 years ago.

[@Wolfen443]

I understand that the idea is very attractive, but more documentation is needed and more continent wide references to those records could help.

[@WhirledPublishing]

The documentation is found in hundreds and hundreds of independent historic records, written in dozens of languages from all across our Earth - which are corroborated by thousands of other independent sources - so theories are unnecessary - guessing games and wild imaginings are unnecessary - unsubstantiated claims are also unnecessary - because thousands of independent sources expose the theories are preposterous nonsense.

[@ragingjaguarknight86]

Whats that "scary,creepy" music that starts @ 2:35? 🤔

[@universeslap]

Welcome to your nightmare!😂

[@ragingjaguarknight86]

@universeslap NOOO! I'm sooo scared. 😱 🤪😂🤣

[@NeilMyatt]

This is the BBC. they have their own facility - the BBC Radiophonic Workshop where they do this kind of stuff. It’s worth googling for KZbin videos on it - there’s a long history of original weird sounds, including the original soundtrack to Dr.Who using bespoke electronic synthesisers, before commercial synthesisers had really been invented!

[@JS-jh4cy]

Democrats

[@Christina-sf4py]

​​​@@JS-jh4cyok yankee, calm down 😂🦘

[@Rom23-c1w]

How can he know that both correspond?? Theres no birth cert for the tree.

[@SchoolforHackers]

They match up corresponding rings across thousands of trees, over thousands of years.

[@flightographist]

The Greenland ice cores are the gift that keeps on giving.

[@elwynj5379]

I wish the original date of transmission was more clearly shown. I think this is 23 years old.

[@lynettegalvin1980]

Peter Frankopan makes this very point.

[@massimosquecco8956]

Tell us when!

[@unclegeorge7845]

Wouldn't too dry have the same effect on growth?

[@andyman8630]

yes, so would too hot and/or reduced sunlight

[@bobthebuilder9553]

Unpublished results. When do they plan on publishing this study or research and will it go through a peer review process instead of being declared fact?

[@_Stormfather]

Not saying they shouldn't do peer review, but considering how often "peer-reviewed" studies turn out to be completely wrong, that's not exactly a high standard either.

[@dadventuretv2538]

They’ve had data like this since the 90s/early 00s. It’s nothing new. It’s why the idea of Thera causing the collapse of the Bronze Age has been discredited for decades- Thera is too early.

[@srikantankckc1305]

Nice on study.🙏 we have more parameters to study. Pls add them to be clarified.

[@RJ420NL]

Too melodramatic.

[@European-antinazi]

The Bronze Age collapse was a couple of hundreds years later, so this is misleading. The largest eruption known, that of Tambora 1815, did not end civilization. So we need some perspective here.

[@TR4R]

After reading a couple of other comments it appears this video is misleading. But it's kinda interesting nevertheless. I assumed although I'm not historian, that the bronze age collapse happened because of structural vulnerabilities in ancient societies, specially if agriculture fails for whatever reason.

[@regaldf.9493]

I cannot recognize that reduced growth period in the tree ring pattern that he talks about... In general, I find that pseudo-Greek script of 'Timestamp' in the thumbnail irritating. With knowing the Greek alphabet a bit, I tend to read this as 'TIMS(S)TDMR'!

[@brahmahum]

Would the end of Civilization not correlate more with the Black Sea and Mesopotamia floods?

[@WhirledPublishing]

Dozens and dozens of " civilizations " have been eradicated - throughout history - by exploding volcanoes, by colossal tsunami waves, by invading armies, by advanced tech weaponry, by famine and so on ... This includes the destruction of Mediterranean regions, northern Europe, the Middle East, India, Mongolia, China, South Asia, the Caribbean, North America, Greenland, the Antarctic regions, the South Pacific and you get the idea ... If you want the timeline for these cataclysms, you can find it all laid out - in graphic detail - in hundreds of historic documents, written in dozens of languages from all across our Earth - and since the timeline in historic records is corroborated by thousands of other independent sources, written in dozens of languages from all across our Earth, it's far more reliable than unsubstantiated claims of the fake " scientific community " ... far more reliable than ' scientific theories " ... which are glorified guessing games and wild imaginings ...

[@reverseuniverse2559]

I learnt all this decades ago on mainstream Tv lol

[@JamesGreener-e3n]

Aniakchak II not Thera - Pearson et al. 2022

[@DinsDale-tx4br]

It would be nice to know how well recognised this result is within the Academic World. '£ to a d' it's still up for vociferous debate.

[@brucetidwell7715]

And this could still happen at other volcanos around the world. 🥺

[@superpala2025]

This is around the bronze age collapse it makes sense.

[@WhirledPublishing]

@8 seconds in: " 7,000 years is disinfo " ... If you think trees grow only once a year ... then you're unaware of how drought and floodwaters impact the formation of tree rings ... Please smarten up.

[@user-fc2xg5iz7y]

Do you think these oak trees grow without leaves.

[@LesleyDT6227]

Yep makes sense.

[@edwardhamm5535]

So this may be the reason for the Bronze Age collapse in the Eastern Mediterranian.

[@merikatools568]

They just discovered humans have growth rings like trees in our pubic hairs

[@unhingedreality9518]

The reoccurring 12k year cycle is almost complete. The sun will micro-nova in ~20 years. The last half-harmonic catastrophe was the flood of Gilgamesh/Noah.

[@rchristie5401]

Wow! Climate change because of a volcano. Who would have guessed!!

[@michaelmorrison4201]

You mean... humans had nothing to do with it?! Not in 536ad either!?

[@JoelTopsom]

1 volcano puts out more co2 than humanity could ever do. The interesting fact is that co2 is not heating our atmosphere. Scientists have proven there is no way the tiny amount of co2 in our atmosphere can produce the heat the muppets claim it does. There is no chemical process that can explain their ridiculous claims

[@williamjackson5942]

@@michaelmorrison4201 Which proves nothing about what we are doing to our world now!

[@MorganBrown]

Nope, not a volcano. It was leprechaun farts ☘️ 💨

[@garotadagavea]

Yep. And destroyed a whole civilization. Amazing, huh?

[@snowman333-]

14000 years is beyond dendrochronology

[@simonconnell7256]

Not if the trees are preserved in the peat bogs ,just like the human bodies they have found perfectly trapped for tens of thousands of years.

[@TylerD288]

It's about 3 and a half thousand years. So yes, dendrochronology works here.

[@slappy8941]

Did you even watch the video?

[@RedcoatsReturn]

Thats the same catastrophe….now….Trump gets a 2nd 4yrs to be President….then our modern civilisation will end….too 😔

[@MseeBMe]

It’s like a gut punch to all that is good and decent. 😢

[@quantumcat7673]

From Canada here, yeah indeed, corrupt DoJ and Supreme court have let trump with a total immunity and now that's a certainty he's not going to go when he's not elected. So the US and it's great democracy is gonna die at the hands of an insane criminal incompetent traitor that should be already in prison but...

[@TheLibraryChamber]

...and will take decades to undo the damage he is about to mete out.

[@njb4602]

Dems did it to us. Blame them and stop supporting terrible decisions from their leadership. Put responsibility where it belongs!

[@redbarchetta8782]

👍

[@Bay0Wulf]

Tree ring dating has been proven to be useful but not necessarily something to base a lot of faith on. They’re another bit of evidence … another piece of a puzzle … but subject to much too much “data manipulation”.

[@jeffreyhawthornegoines8727]

I sought elements of the civilization but this is all scientific data

[@ragnaldodinson7320]

Might be of interest to correlate the oak and I've with Velikofski and his studies of the Egyptian/Moses event.Kevin

[@kelleyrc5671]

Is this part of the Bronze Age collapse?

[@christianfrommuslim]

Too early. Bronze Age collapse was around 1177 BC

[@GerryMcGarry]

No, It's about the collapse of the Minoans.

[@Signaman-z9d]

Leave it to a Irishman🤓 👏☘️

[@That_Freedom_Guy]

So, the cause of an erupting volcano can have effects elsewhere as a consequence. The ongoing ripples of causes and effects, creatiing 4d interference patterns makes our world. Probly.😅

[@marionchase-kleeves8311]

Remember Mt St Helen? 22 years of climate change IN NEW MEXICO!

[@kenrussell1635]

Naw! Fake

[@fredschoemaker7042]

THE CLIMATE-CHANGER GOD-ROCK KNOWS THAT I AM A TREE FARMER ALSO I KNOW WHEN WHERE AND WHY CLIMATE CHANGED DO YOU WANT TO KNOW BECAUSE THE CLIMATE-CHANGER GOD-ROCK KNOWS THAT SURPRISED TO ME THAT YOU DO NOT???

[@SarahWRah]

Short clip, not very informative

[@alphalunamare]

About 3500 Year ago??? Come on, the Thera Debate requires far more accurate data than that!

[@Rockall57]

But does it.. give an example of other ways to test.. don't think I'm convinced but let's say they drill in Siberia or somewhere suitable in Canada and find the same result??

[@WhirledPublishing]

Debates and theories are unnecessary - because the true timeline for Thera is documented in historic records - by numerous independent sources - if you want the true timeline, you can have it - but that means giving up the " conveniences " so you have the time to study the voluminous evidence.

[@alphalunamare]

@@WhirledPublishing What a load of tosh.

[@WhirledPublishing]

Please share with us your impressive accomplishments and achievements in life - so we can all appreciate your brilliance - if you have no impressive accomplishments or achievements, let that be a reminder to you that you're not very bright - then maybe you'll realize you've been dumbed down since you were a child, then maybe you'll refrain from imagining you're the intelligent one here - since you clearly are not - not at all - not even close.

[@zimriel]

Outdated clip from 2001 which even Baillie no longer supports. Bang up job BBC, licence fees definitely well spent.

[@holdenek62]

Yup, Mount Aniakchak

[@kelleytortorice1283]

I am praying for ALL the liberals to come to know Jesus-as soon as possible! He is coming back and if you don’t like Earth now, you really won’t like hell.

[@ziegweid]

What's his ETA? Inquiring minds need to know. Thx!

[@faithlesshound5621]

You would be shocked to find that he was a communist.

[@erinmac4750]

Who said "liberals" didn't know Jesus? It's about more than the words. Plenty of folks out there making a spectacle of their beliefs, drawing near to Him with their lips, but their [hardened] hearts are far from Him. If they're not "feeding His sheep," looking out for the vulnerable, children, homeless, disabled, seniors, etc., then they're not following Him or His Word.

[@faithlesshound5621]

@@ziegweid His ETA was originally some time in the 1st century CE, but it keeps getting deferred. Currently he's about 1900 years overdue. Maybe he got lost on the way? Btw, Americans would consider him to be an extreme "liberal." And he wouldn't love guns.

[@bearcatracing007]

The great thing about him coming back is its whenever you want because it's in your head 😂

[@edmundsveikutis1698]

B B C Tee Hee Hee ...

[@corinnecivish7673]

Sorry. No thumbs up. This is a theory that has since been replaced, with greater and later data. It's bad form, guys - putting outdated info on youtube.

[@Tengooda]

" greater and later data". What data is that?

[@seanfox4551]

What's the latest one?

[@tessjuel]

@@seanfox4551 It seems they blamed the wrong volcano. The 1628/1627 BC deposits in the Greenland ice sheet is now believed to have come from Mount Aniakchak, not Thera. I don't know the details but I assume they've done some chemical analyzis of the ashes in the ice since this video was made. There are four such concordances between ash deposits in Greenland and low tree growth found within the time span of a century: 1654-1652 BC, 1628-1627 BC, 1561-1560 BC and 1555-1554 BC. Any of the other three can have been caused by the Thera eruption but there's also a chance that particular eruption doesn't show up this way. The ashes may have blown eastwards and never reached Greenland or there may not have been much ashes at all. The Thera eruption is one of the biggest in recorded history but that doesn't necessarily mean it produced a lot of ashes and gases, it may have been all about lava.

[@Tengooda]

@@tessjuel No, the Thera eruption was an explosive one ejecting huge volumes of ash, as evidenced by the very thick ash deposits on Santorini.

[@corinnecivish7673]

@@Tengooda It isn't the amount of ash, a volcano puts out, but how far it was blown up into the stratosphere, at some point during the eruption. You can have eruptions that produce more ejecta, but not as explosive enough to cause a global cooling.

[@metal--babble346]

they should have built electric cars

[@travelmaltaculture]

Wait, wasn't ancient catastrophe pseudoscientific? Like velikovsky? 😮

[@roymoya4026]

Meanning the christians demolishing the classic word?

[@environmentaldataexchange3906]

This video sucks real bad.

[@I-am-one]

My hypothesis is.